The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeitcho 10/7: Minneapolis PD, NBA Fraud, Beverly Hills, Childhood Fears, Dave Chapelle, Twitter

Episode Date: October 7, 2021

In this edition of Zeitcho, Jack and Miles discuss Minneapolis PD caught on body cam being pieces of shit, the NBA players being indicted for defrauding NBA healthcare, antivaxxers harassing kids in Beverly Hills. their worst childhood fears, Dave Chapelle's new special (isn't good), and Twitters' new feature that no one asked for. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Car insurance reference, maybe? Or Zyko. Zyko, like, but like psycho, like psycho. For October. Yeah, exactly. I should have done it like that. Damn it. Come on, Jack.

You got no going back now. I am Jack. As you mentioned, you are miles. I am. Hello, sir. All right. Here's here's some things that are trending on this Thursday, October 7th afternoon. Minneapolis police were caught on their body cams just openly talking about hunting protesters during the George Floyd protests.

Some direct quotes are talking about how it's a nice change of tempo for officers to be actively hunting people instead of just chasing them around. Another officer replied, fuck these people. Minneapolis cops were ordered to shoot nonlethal rounds on quote, the first fuckers we see because you know, they're just not used to that, that pushback. They're like,

uh, what? And that, that shit came out because they fired on a group of people in an unmarked car. And one of the people they were shooting at who had a permit to have a gun clapped back. And they're like, what the fuck was you shooting at the car? And they're like, well, they are not announcing themselves or identifying themselves as law enforcement.

And they're shooting out of an unmarked car. Like, what the fuck they think this is in the heat of, uh, you know, uh, in a moment where the country was talking about white supremacist violence and shit like that. And yeah,

but that guy, uh, was recently acquitted. Um, yeah. Just because, yeah. What the fuck?

These people are just, these people, these fucking cops are just going in now. Like it's, yeah, there's no law. There, there's a video of the person out on their deck. Oh inside yeah get inside and then they just shot him like my yeah

exactly they're like what i'm on my property like right i'm not outside yeah there is a uh a story about 18 x nba players who are charged in a $4 million healthcare fraud scheme. These are people who are, you know, Milt Palacio was, I think, the first name on the list that I saw. Journeyman player, one of the nicest dudes I've ever met. And, you know, they got Tony Allen, the six-time all-defensive team selection, won a championship with the celtics in 08 so they're basically being accused of defrauding the nba healthcare system by like submitting fake claims and i am on their side fuck the federal government and especially the fbi and whoever's bringing these charges leave milt alone 3.9 i mean come on look at fucking south dakota what you bother with 3.9 spread across 18 players yeah fuck you

guys man that's that's not even a quarter million per person yeah but you know they they love to get a big splashy name and attack people of color. And meanwhile, billionaires are just sheltering all their money in South Dakota. Yeah, I was going to say, really cool thing to just throw into the mix when we're looking at unprecedented leaks in the form of the Pandora Papers and putting more of a focus on these tax havens that we even have within our own united states yeah yeah anyways i hope i hope these guys get good lawyers and uh get away with it you know um i'm sure they've learned their lesson from the man but we know how this we know how this legal system works oh yeah no the fbi once they once they got you in their sights they're on your ass a group of militant anti-vaccine activists protested children walking to school in beverly hills uh earlier this week it was national walk to school day i don't know how the fuck we missed that one miles

but they basically took this as an opportunity to like yell at the kids because they were walking with their parents. They were like, this is a target-rich environment. Let's go shout at some fucking kids. One notorious anti-vaxxer screamed, they're trying to rape our children with this poison, which is a cool thing for children to hear, I'm sure. That is courtesy of uh shiva bagheri who is the founder of the protest group beverly hills freedom rally recently caught on camera punching a cancer survivor while

protesting a mask mandate at a cancer clinic and real tough yeah so they confronted the parents and children from hawthorne elementary school uh as they took part in national walk to school day also in attendance was beverly hills mayor robert wonderlick uh who proposed that the representatives from the protest group meet him later in the day and let the children walk to school in peace and And they were like, fuck that. Fuck that. We're going to scream in these kids' faces, man. Think of the children, right?

As I scream at them. Yeah. Like you don't give a fuck. That's why it's so whatever. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about spooky things. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.

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so this is an opportunity miles what what were you scared of as a kid why did i have to go first i might not be scared by anything so i had a couple i had a recurring nightmare where i was in the car with my parents and the car took off with me in it uh and they were like out of it like because i think that there was some part of my brain that was like maybe it's not a good idea that they leave me in the car while they like run into the store or something oh like that like they're like okay we'll be right back and the car just goes and the car just takes off yeah and starts driving around so that was one recurring nightmare i had i had a recurring nightmare where i did drugs or was forced to do drugs all right i remember that somebody in one of my dreams came up to me and like cut my thumb with a razor blade and like poured cocaine on the

cut and i was like oh no and i like started to die immediately oh i got blow thumb yeah yeah wow all right because of the brave enough to share those and show us how much of an upstanding child on it that just like it truly warms my heart to know that your fear was someone getting drugs on you and then you die nancy reagan did it did it to me and my dad always said yo don't listen to her or her husband they're wilding um for me it was pools that the light was off like okay like uh i remember my grandparents had a pool and like i hated night swimming and if the pool if the light was not on that shit and hell no i'm not getting eaten by jaws and that fucking thing if i can't see what if i can't see in it uh that rem song

is like the the jaws theme to you it's like when you hear that piano chord you're like oh night swimming fuck you no no no not now uh and then just like the dark was really like my big thing as a kid if she got too dark like i would immediately just be like in a fight or flight like kind of thing like like what's going on uh shout out to my uncles and grandfather who would really get a kick out of turning the lights off and making me terrified um but now i love the darkness i embrace the darkness you know i realized i was actually born in the darkness you know and then

others just merely play around in it I also had this thing and I'm curious I don't think I've ever mentioned this on a podcast but there was this like blonde haired guy with black like triangles around his eyes almost like a raccoon that like I just had in my mind that was like sort of this like demon figure that i would always like picture outside my window or like around the corner or something um just very like almost like the blonde guy from

die hard if uh he was a raccoon but uh i don't i don't know if that was i don't know where it came from maybe it was like something in a cartoon or something but um anybody else had either that or like a very specific like scary person that their mind created i'd be curious to hear about that i mean it sounds like jack you were just so aware of like global oppression that you were seeing two all-seeing eyes on this body that represented the the arians and you were like oh my god this global system of white supremacy yeah yeah abounds those triangle eyes i'm like are you talking about the all-seeing eye yeah illuminati yeah um no all right uh chapelle is trending his latest special came out and has become sort of a culture war thing so that's just controversial culture war

in that conservatives are now flocking to dave chapelle and suddenly you're like oh my god yes he's our guy but you know i'm not familiar with much of his other material as it relates to race. So in this very narrow context, we're pro-Chapelle. But yeah, he just had a whole chunk of just absurd, regressive, transphobic jokes. Saying some shit like, I was dragged was i was dragged on twitter for for especially by trans people he's like but i don't give a fuck because twitter's not a real place and he's like they call me a turf or whatever i said they call jk rowling a turf and he's like and i don't and he's like and that's it that's it you know that's the thing that trans people do is just to make up

words to win arguments and you're like jesus what are you fucking saying right now? And just goes on to be like, gender is a fact. And he's like, his whole shit just like smacked of guy who has, he clearly has not moved past 2006 maybe. Yeah. And has, sees no reason to re-examine any of his beliefs as it relates to this. Because like, for as much as he talks about it's but you know he can be so right about a lot of other things or his comedy can be so poignant about when it comes to as it relates to other things but for the last few specials he's chosen to like keep going back to this well and it's really dumb it's violent it's like you know a

lot of people are like for all this shit that you talk about for liberation of black people like are you just erasing black trans people completely from your ideology or what you think liberation looks like and you know uh quickly the joe rogan set of comedy fans are like not do this dude's fucking goat dude like that's just like this is edgy man like he's just saying something that like is true. Well, you can't handle it. Well, and you know, what's funny is like what people do is like, if you're a racist or you're a homophobe,

you'll get into these things where you're, you look at the, the reckoning that occurs with being so out there with your, your just offensive beliefs. Like when there's a response to it, they use that as like, see, it's just proving the point when there's a response to it they use that as like see it's just proving the point it's just proving the point it's actually proving the point that you are in fact racist or homophobic and you're just willing to you just want to rationalize

it in a different way to make it so that you are a fixed point who doesn't need to change and others are just sort of uh acting bizarre unfair towards you yeah yeah and this does come after he started fucking kicking it with joe rogan and like being part of that set um yeah i mean they you know the defending louis ck he's he's had a he's had a he's had many off-ramp points for fans along the way here. And it's wild because I really liked his early material, but to just see someone that I would think was so intelligent just be like, dude, our fucking values do not align at all. This is fucked up.

So a lot of people are voicing their displeasure with it um while many others are trying to you know act as if uh transphobia like isn't a like a terrible thing and actually has violent outcomes for real people in the world he's also doing like a thing that i've seen ruin narcissists careers where they start focusing only on criticisms they get um and like that's all they talk about and it sends them down this spiral where they're like just talking about shit that like people don't really want to hear them talk about right because i think they're just so they are obsessed with defending their themselves but they're like oh no they're this this defense is actually you're bringing in the backhoe and you're digging the ditch even deeper for yourself

uh with every stupid thing and you know uh producer brian and i were talking before too like he doesn't his stand-up is just so different now too like it went from like a what a traditional sort of stand-up thing not that there are rules it, but like in these last few specials, it just seemed like this old guy holding court. Yeah. And like, these are my observations. And some people like it, other people definitely don't. I've also enjoyed some of the tweets from other comedians,

like Curtis Cook tweeted, my greatest Hollywood aspiration is to get so successful that my friends become my employees and stop feeling comfortable telling me to shut the fuck up so my work suffers but the audience has already invested too much in me to walk away so they call me brilliant instead of sad and joel kim booster tweeted once you're rich you shouldn't be allowed to do stand-up anymore unless you get a terminal illness or burned in a fire and even then it's questionable but yeah i mean and for people who just want to be like it's just edgy comedy no that's it's such a disingenuous defense to it

because you're completely disconnecting the fact that jokes like this are just normalizing certain you know discriminatory behavior or phobias that only leads to shit spiraling out of control in real life so yeah you're like oh it's just a joke like relax if you think that's funny then there's then there i have a fundamental issue with what you think is funny and it's not just a joke and it actually says a lot about who you are as a person rather than like what can you handle as a joke yeah and it's wild you know you'll learn a lot based on the kinds of quote-unquote jokes you see people defend yeah because shit i put some people to bed being like trying to act like dumb fucking racist jokes about black people can slide like no that's fucking nonsense it's

violent and the fact you just are going to rely on it's just a joke like relax people can say what they want well that's different because from your position you probably aren't in a position to experience the oppression or violence that comes along with being in a certain group and so you know people have to i don't know that's just part of growing up is like you start realizing no actually it's shit is fucking not not funny yeah as you as i heard you say not everyone makes it you know not everyone's gonna yeah you don't take everybody with you on this path to growth like that's people you admire on tv and media and your friend groups are like i mean shit i'm going through that right now i think many people are especially as it relates to the pandemic and the uprisings last summer a lot of people

was like okay well you know what i don't have time for this because that's you're you're you are a person who is actually invested in something i'm trying to push back against well fortunately i think twitter has all this solved uh they have announced another feature uh that nobody asked for that isn't moderating hate speech but uh so we all remember fleets no one asked for it. They died. And they've announced another feature that I don't think anyone was asking for on the app. It's basically a vibe check on a thread. Yeah. You ever wonder?

You're like, oh, look at this. There's a lot of action. Maybe I'll put my take in here. And essentially, they're saying, this is from their description quote everyone to know the vibe of a conversation before you join in uh we're testing prompts on android and ios that give you a heads up if the combo you're about to enter could get heated or intense this is a work in progress as we learn how to better support healthy conversation so this is like an example where as if like you were about to tweet some dumb shit like gender is a fact or some nonsense.

Right. This is a great example of tech and social media knowing that they have a responsibility and doing like the bare minimum and convincing themselves that they are doing something. I'll help them with prompts rather than taking away a cesspit for them to gather around. So a heads up will come up. Quote, heads up. Conversation like this can be intense. This will say under a tweet.

It said, let's look out for each other. And then it'll have three bullet points to keep in mind before you have to like tap through to like actually tweet something. It says, one, remember the human. Communicating with respect makes Twitter better. Two, facts matter. Checking the facts help everyone. Remember the human. Communicating with respect makes Twitter better. Two, facts matter.

Checking the facts help everyone. I mean, that one is so fucking amazing that they're just going to solve disinformation by being like, facts matter. Checking the facts help everyone. Yeah, right. That's like some kindergarten teacher who's like i i'll solve the middle east plant like problem send me to israel and i'll go come on every come on now come on yeah like that honestly that may be more effective but anyway uh they're saying the

facts matter and then third diverse perspectives have value discovering new perspectives can strengthen your own i mean i mean that's clearly for someone who's ignorant yeah yeah yeah that's i mean like because if i'm looking at this and it's some racist shit i'm not gonna go oh shit yeah this this diverse perspective on someone praying for my downfall is actually that can strengthen my own perspective yeah put it out there what if this is what white supremacists and nazis needed they were like oh shit wait a second y'all remember the human but maybe let's not do this instead of doing something that would actually be effective you right exactly like you know getting fucking nazis off the platform um but hey one one one dumb idea at a time i guess for jack dorsey and yeah there aren't many details about like what this thing is going to do aside from this like very vague example because like a lot of people like well

what happens if shit's getting ratioed like will it know if you're going into like a positively ratioed tweet a negatively ratioed tweet how will it like what what is it using to determine how to alert someone? So, yeah. All right. Well, those are the things that are trending right now. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself.

Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow bye bye k hasn't heard from her sister in seven years i have a proposal for you come up here and document my project all you need to do is record everything like you always do what was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.

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