The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeiterman: Into The Trenderverse 1/5: Chicago Public School, The Pope, Homer Plessy, Merrick Garland, Rampant Raw Doggery, KFC

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

In this edition of Zeiterman: Into The Trenderverse, Jack and Miles discuss Chicago cancelling public school classes, the Pope criticizing couples who don't have kids, Homer Plessy being posthumously pardoned, Merrick Garland vowing to pursue Jan. 6th inquiry 'at any level', Bossip's brilliant headline, KFC debuting plant based 'Beyond Fried Chicken' menu, and Novak Djokovic's visa problems. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Zyder Man into the trenderverse. That one comes courtesy of the brilliant Miles Gray. I am Jack. I am joined by Miles Gray. And he will only be making that noise for the whole episode. And that's how he will be communicating. And our first topic, creeping first topic creeping inequality okay okay it's getting a little bit bad now oh boy i mean basically our first story is chicago public schools because the the leaders of chicago's public schools canceled classes today on wednesday following a tuesday vote by the chicago teachers union to

return to remote learning and the continued spread of the omicron covet 19 variant yeah um in case you're noticing that that this is not how i talk i am reading a summary from a uh from a news from a website from google internet website i think people have heard a podcast before where people read things from a computer hey miles just holding their hand you know it's probably got some new listeners in 2022 who just went home for the holidays heard about podcasts and made and did that new year's resolution to listen to this second rate show welcome one and all yeah um yeah i was there have been a few like chicago teacher twitter i remember was blowing up yesterday and on monday with like teachers in

disbelief over like some of the decisions that like school administrators were making as it related to them being in the building in person fully packed with the omicron variant just exploding and like like this one charter school this one teacher at a charter school said like the administrators like locked all the teachers out of their google accounts so they couldn't teach remote even if they tried that's like what is it's just so weird when like the the decision here is about everyone's safety yeah um but it's anyway so we're back to this part of the pandemic too or we're watching you know case numbers go up and everyone's like nature like do we not carry on like there's no highly transmissible virus out there yeah i mean what what we had talked about from the beginning is kind of coming to pass that this is a less severe

version of covid but it doesn't matter because it is so highly contagious and so many people have it that yeah you play the numbers game and if like only 10 people would get really sick out of 100 with another one and maybe it's less but then you extrapolate that to millions yeah you have the potential to overwhelm hospitals again but yeah covid cases in the u.s 4th, 2022 are 885,000. In 2021, it was 251,000. And then deaths are 2,366 this year and 2,000 last year. So it's, yeah, even though that is proportionally smaller, that doesn't matter because people are dying out here.

Yeah, and I think the other misconception a lot of people have had to come to grips with, especially people I know who were vaccinated and even boosted and got sick, was like, and the thing I always find myself telling people, even that are vaccinated, it's like, well, I'm vaccinated. So it's like, no, that's not the, that's not it. It's not to prevent you from even catching it at all. It's preventing you from a very serious illness that would take you to the hospital that's the point of this vaccine not fucking carte blanche to act like it's 2018 and yeah there are plenty i mean i see constantly uh anecdotes from people who are saying if this is mild then what the fuck is spicy? Right. The Pope is trending. This just made me picture how funny the Pope's life is.

Because he just sits around and is just like, I don't know, just like judges things. It's just like. Pontificating. Yeah. Literally pontificating. I guess that's why that word exists uh yeah so pope francis today has criticized couples who chose who choose to have pets instead of children as selfish arguing that their decision to forego parenthood leads to a loss of humanity and is a

detriment to civilization so that's what that's just popped into his head isn't this pope down with lgbtq people yeah he's the cool pope yeah people who do not procreate are leading to a loss of humanity yeah but you like well how do you square that with all this other shit and also like we've as someone who's so aware of like the fragile ecosystem that we live in on this planet you know some people philosophically believe they don't want to contribute to increasing the population and that's fine that's their decision that they've made based on that like that's in a way that seems very altruistic actually um but whatever pope you know that's why i love checking with pope you say one thing you're like yay say another thing you're like man this fool is he's got a big old hat on yeah he doesn't like

he just needs to wear the big hat like it's at a certain it's kind of like in goodwill hunting how everyone's mad like his friends are mad at goodwill hunting uh as i call him uh because he isn't taking advantage of like the opportunities given to him we're all pissed at you for not taking advantage of the fact that you can wear you're the only person who can wear that ridiculous fucking hat and you're not doing anywhere like even places like hey no hats in here you're not gonna say that shit to the pope the fucking pope hat every day i wake up and google image search the pope and every day i'm disappointed not to see a new era yankee fitted but but pope pope has a fuck out you know i feel like someone needs to do

that like for fun visits when they're like they do a local version of the pope hat for them so like yo you come to la we'll get you like the half laker half dodger fitted with the palm trees embroidered in it but with that like teardrop shape you know what i mean yeah now see without his hat he's just francis yeah frank sorry pope frank homer plessy is trending lou. Louisiana's governor acted lightning quick and on Wednesday posthumously pardoned Homer Plessy, the black man who was arrested for refusing to leave a whites only railroad car in 1892, which, of course, led to the Supreme Court ruling that cemented an apartheid separate but equal U.S. law. I mean, just part of a group of you know civil

rights people who wanted to prevent this kind of segregation and arrested and i this is the thing that i'm also like when i read i'm like if you're saying like it was bullshit for him to be arrested right then is a pardon the exact thing you're doing because it sounds like homer plessy was an innocent man right and so pardon suggests guilt and i feel like lawyers on the internet have been debating this too just like then it's an acquittal or it's like you're the decision the to pardon is like already a presupposing that he was guilty right expunge acquit yeah like whatever but i guess that's the word the buzzword that makes it easy for people to say is like the legal version of

our bad 130 years later if you just said pardon me you know we could have avoided all this right golly you hate golly golly what's next yeah anyways you know shout out to them for jumping on this one quickly yeah uh and yeah goodness uh especially when we're in a time where we're watching the new jim crow you know rear its ugly little head again yeah we are gonna watch one of us is gonna watch don't look up another is gonna watch matrix 4 i've i've seen the requests for us to watch these movies. A lot of people watched on Netflix over the break. Fuck it. I'm dropping coin and Jack, you and I will just be two of us in a movie theater.

Yeah. Watch Matrix 4. No one else can come. But yeah, those are both movies where the descriptions from people, even people who don't like it, are pretty intriguing. Super producer Brian described The Matrix 4 as the Gremlins 2 of Matrix movies. So the good one. Yeah, like that's very intriguing to me. And don't look up, I haven't heard a like glowing review yet yeah everyone's all the

write-ups are very conflicted yeah we're like i get like you're like we get why some people don't like it but it's important to the conversation of you know the this whole i don't know it's just it seems that people are are split on it But the one thing is they like to say it's a good for the discourse. Right. Uh, again, super producer Brian, uh,

coming with the fire takes said that it feels like a movie that would have come out in 2014 and been like, okay, all right. And then like gone bad by now. Uh, and they just happened to release it uh eight years later by the way what are your thoughts on banksy not not by the way but uh what do you mean do you think bank like

banksy feels very good in 2009 yeah but that's what i'm saying like there's a banksy exhibited in la right now banksy feels very yeah banksy feels very like dated to me and like we i don't know like we it feels like obama and banksy should be like hanging out together uh reliving banksy obama and banksy like oh yeah yeah yeah for sure like you're like yeah there was a time when i was just like yeah that's cool right like my heroes circa year 2008 you know someone had those dueling posters up in their dorm room yeah um yeah i don't i mean i'm more i'm more interested in who banksy actually is than the art at this point yeah i'm more intrigued that was able to keep that under wraps for so long and i know a lot of people suspect it could be like someone in portishead or a few other things like they're

trying to track like show times and when like artworks are appearing but yeah i don't know or it's like a collective i i just don't the art itself i think was fun at the time when it was purely just like this like graffiti stencil stuff that was like sort of you know fucking with our interpretation of like sort of iconic imagery yeah and then the sculpture stuff was like you know coolish thought provoking but i don't know for i think for me it was almost like it was just like the most highbrow version of jackass right yeah yeah it's like jackass and like memery like it feels like memes like yeah yeah no because in a way i mean yeah very simple like you completely understand what the message is based on the juxtaposition of it all um but yeah i mean like it feels like something now because

like i remember going to someone's house in like 2007 who had a banksy and they were like so fucking i got this banksy and like they spent a ton like you know hundreds of thousands of dollars on it and i just think of like what that looks like in a room now yeah like you go and you're like this isn't timeless art right it looks like you have a busted tease uh framed on your wall right right exactly yeah um all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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I might be Banksy. Okay. Good to know. Someone who I'm pretty sure isn't Banksy. Banks O'Brien. Merrick Garland. Hey, jury's out. You never know.

Yeah. banks o'brien merrick garland uh hey jury's out you never know uh yeah so he had an update uh the day before um jan 6th uh just mostly anticipating the uh daily zeitgeist january 6th anniversary uh episode um seemed pretty excited about it yeah january 6th uh but what what else did you have to say i mean it was just an update on like just the general pace of what's happening at the doj and their investigation into january 6th and that the facts or whatever and we'll go to the highest levels and rhetorically it sounded okay but like there seems like i'm there's a lot of discussion around people being like, this is horseshit, or people being like, phew, Merrick Garland's on top of it. I was not as optimistic as some people as I just heard him say things that I already knew. this point we've not really seen the kinds of repercussions for people that are involved in this that would look like oh this this would actually probably um prevent someone from wanting to get involved with something like this again or make them second guess what it means to

try and openly overthrow a government but i so i don't know man the clock is just fucking ticking on this thing and it felt like the shit had to be done the second joe biden was in office um because we want like people literally watch this thing happen and to say like well i don't know like we gotta follow the facts like that's okay well the house will already be burnt down by the time you figure it out yeah yeah greg just told the texas national guard that uh biden is not their commander in chief so it seems like he's not your real dad yeah yeah we're already headed there yeah the one thing is like i guess for all the things that would make me feel good it would be if the

doj could actually articulate that the problem with this whole january 6th thing is that white supremacist violence is being transformed and mutated into fascism at trump's behest right but they won't say that because it's like well then they're just going to create all this perception that like we're out to get them uh-huh yeah people who are like i i don't know what else you do like for people who are openly committing these kinds of crimes, that you're worried about the optics. Yeah. But again, we're dealing with structures that are unable to contend with the problems that it's created. The phrase rampant raw doggery was trending because that is how Bossip described Tristan

Thompson's behavior. And that's poetry. So it deserves to- I mean, Bossip, well-known. I believe their subheader used to be straight Henny, no coke, because letting you know what you're going to get on Bossip, the black gossip site. Rampant raw doggery.

I dock my cap. Yes, indeed. To such rampant raw doggery, sir, I'll have you know. Very Shakespearean. Yeah. KFC Beyond Meat that is going nationwide. And so this is their plant-based or not meat-based alternative. And it's not vegan, nor is it even vegetarian,

because they will be frying it in the same batter that they fry their chickens in oh the same what you mean same fryers the same fryers yeah wait really yeah yeah oh okay that's that's like kind of that's like kind of cheating you're kind of cheating you're cheating a little bit representative for the chain confirmed a next star you know what i mean like that's cheating because you're getting the meat flavor indirect you're getting it from the oil now yeah like i we we still have to wait and see what the pope says about this but like were you to go vegan is the thing that you would be going vegan for the health benefits or like just straight up like you like how much does that bother you if it's

kind of cheating you're kind of getting flavor but it's uh i mean if if if it were that it was just based yeah to just cut down my meat consumption i wouldn't care like i'm not i'm not as philosophically tied to the idea of like never having i mean that's a very specific i'm not specific but i think there are vegans who will choose to be meatless and occasionally like i'm not gonna trip if there was like bone broth or something yeah but and it all depends on your strict adherence i guess in the long term i'm saying you know a little grease never hurt nobody a little beef tallow never hurt the fries at mcdonald's like i would be more likely to uh want to um alienate other vegans where i had to go vegan rather than like try and be their version of a good vegan um

that's just an abomination yeah completely are these your rules ah like you're not vegan then ah or am i no no we shall see joe kovic trending got a vaccine exemption for the australian open uh for people who aren't tennis heads this is like the best tennis player on on earth right now uh he's the australian open defending champ and he's real dipshit and the australian the australian open is like hey you know it's important that you're here so we'll give you a vaccine exemption for your uh religion of stupidity also no you got a medical exemption you're like i'm sorry this guy is the number one tennis player oh and he's in dire health okay but or is there a thing like that he's bulletproof because he's in such good health that like we don't care if he carries the disease and

harms people anyways uh there there was some speculation he was being held in a room at the Melbourne airport with police out front after landing there. His father said that there was a visa mix up that could jeopardize his entry into the country. So unclear. It doesn't seem like the Australian Openian open or australia is like reversing course uh this could be a soft reverse course where they're like actually what happened uh is the paperwork got screwed up therefore nobody is offended right right right but whatever yeah fucking who gives us just fucking why do you have rules if you allow whatever that's the world right rules are for only like most people unless you

have a lot of money yeah it does feel like another example of the world bringing itself to the dumb instead of trying to bring the dumb to the world what's his thing again he he didn't say he's not vaccinated he's been anti-vax like coy before covid right right right yeah yeah he's one of them oh but he didn't do the thing where he was like being coy about his like vaccination status like oh he did yeah actually i'm sorry i should not have said he's an anti-vaxxer he just has not revealed his vaccination status it could be that he got vaccinated guys we don't know i don't know hey what's under your shirt is that a gun i don't know come on now let me get close to you what the fuck that looks like a guy i don't

know dude tell me right now show me what's under there i'm not gonna show you what's under right yeah it's not and i'm not gonna say what it could or could not be oh man i'm tired of this shit yeah good thing this is good thing it's almost over day of the year of us doing this show uh yeah good thing the pandemic's almost over should be a smooth one from here on out but we are gonna watch matrix 4 yeah because that we may just end up that may be the new way to experience reality the metaverse might not be too far off we're like you know what the only way we can live is to be in pods separated from each other so we don't get sick and we beam up into vr yeah could be the new batch yeah um all right well those are the things that are trending uh on this january 5th 2022

we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine, even if you're Djokovic. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion,

and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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