The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeitland Vacation (Sip Sip) 6\9: Trump/Elon, ICE Raids, Los Angeles Protests, Sidney Sweeney

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

In this edition of Zeitland Vacation (Sip Sip), Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Trump/Elon wars, the ICE raids, protests and false flag operation happening in Los Angeles, Sidney Sweeney selling fans her bathwater and much more! READ: Ruby Nell Sales - The ShedSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here's Wheezy's actual guitars. This is what's actually coming through to the board. And they were making it sound good? Yeah, there's ones where people were like, oh, this is, people were like, they're sweetening it up or had a stunt guitar player. And then there's, we're the ones that are just, oh, because it also set off a thing of people note for note trying to Wow. That is definitely Fred Slacks. slacks Holiday Well, oh wow, he's doing a reference to what's in the cup with a re oh my god, he is so fucking

He really I don't know what it is I mean like was it that the drugs has completely Ruined him or that the drugs got him to a place and then we really can't expect much more after. I'm really trying to figure out what this is, who he is, what he is. I was like, I mean, I was never. Was it the Braids? Do you think? I would, was it the Dreads?

I was just, I think, cause like for me, I was never really like a big wheezy fan in that era, like in the, you know, the main Carter's era. Yeah, me neither. I just like every now and then people would be like, oh, that bar is crazy. I'm like, the main Carter's era. Yeah, me neither. I just like every now and then people be like, Oh, that bar is crazy. I'm like, okay, that's fine. Like that's like a triple entendre. But then yeah, real G's move in silence, like lasagna's he'll always have that.

Like that's just goes in the hall of fame. Yeah. Yeah. Period. He's got a something. He just, someone was like, I smoke a pure L sanitizer. It was like a bar he said in like one of the first tracks, I'm like, this feels like even not as good for you, Wayne. Yeah.

Pure L sanitizer. Yeah. He does the thing like where he'll like drop in the punch line. Like, yeah, I mean, and he definitely like, uh, made that a huge thing and it was like, you know, a trail pioneer and not a pioneer, but like, you know, popularize that kind of delivery. Pioneer and chronic shirtlessness. Put a shirt on Brian. Such an old guy take damn pioneer and chronic shirtlessness.

Put some damn clothes on. And pull those pants. I mentioned the girls he's going around with. Oh, no. Did you see? Do you know who Chet Holmgren is? I mean, I know who he is. He walked into game one with his pants, like just all the way down.

What? Why? I don't know. It's bringing something back. It was one of the most ridiculous things ever. No, no, no. Like just like the sag that people that I did in their early nineties. Oh, okay. I'm talking Chet Holmgren. Oh, the sag that he was pulling coming into game game one cuz he's it just like emphasized his like pure asslessness, you know, well, I Fucking hate Chet Holmgren

No, dude, I don't I don't know I don't even have that bro, I fucking hate this guy I just don't like anything he's giving us ever. I Mean his name is shit. His name is Chet. I mean like it was funny when I was like, oh, yeah He looks like Abe Lincoln's Molly dealer. I was like perfect. I don't want to hear you talk I just want to look at you and then the more I hear him talk like I said that video when he's like We're using my favorite books. Brian, there's this video of him showing off his favorite books and they're like coffee table books with like pictures of watches and then like coffee table books with like Virgil stuff and

it's just it's giving like you know somebody who just watched it Brian you you judge for yourself this is Chet Holmgren this is like a GQ video where he's talking about shit he can't live without we're moving on oh instantly and upset just looking at another one of my GQ 10 essentials is all of my like I call them coffee table books He talks like Donald Trump, bro We I call them coffee table books something I call them TM The production by Tashin the company that makes them or risoli when I'm just kind of kicking it at the crib or I need some

Inspiration I was open one of these up and kind of. You need inspiration for what Chet? For watches to buy. I'm looking through them. This one's on like all the different jewelry that's been in hip hop in the last like 20 years. Another reason I also love these books is I dropped out of college. So too many words on the page kind of hurts my brain. So it's always good when there's a lot of pictures in there

which I think is pretty cool. And you know, I got all different variations of these. That one's jewelry. You got variations my guy? I got all different variations of these. That one's jewelry. You got variations. I got all different variations of these. So calling different books, all different variations of these. It's like he's talking about shoes or something. It's like the one shoe. It's like you had air force ones and all the different air force ones. He thinks of books as a type of shoe.

I've got other color ways too. I got a red book. I got a yellow book. I got a yellow book. I got this pink book the other day. It's pretty cool. I mean, I guess it is. There's something endearing that he knows.

He's like, I dropped out of college. I dropped out of college, so too many words hurt my brain. It's like, I was saying, like, I've known, I knew somebody who like got in a moped accident and like stopped their brain, stopped developing at that point, like when they were like 12 and like, I think just fame and being really good at basketball did that to this. He demolition man. Fame is like a moped accident. Yeah.

Fame is like a moped accident that hits you at your, like, once you stop having to like interact with the world around you in a real way, you just like, you will not grow anymore. You're not growing anymore. You're just like, and I mean, like he's, yeah, that's what happened to Gary Busey. I mean, he actually got into a, he got into a, he got hit with the double whammy. TBI, yeah.

That's a double whammy. Fame plus TBI, no. Yeah. It did like, that video actually made me sad. For real, it made me sad. It made me sad, but then I'm like, not sad because he's fine materially. He knows, he's not like a person who has this intellect and no financial recourse. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be fine.

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As the Epstein tweet hit and I didn't have somebody behind me, uh, whispering into my ears, sir, an Epstein tweet has hit the internet. Just fired off an Epstein tweet. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, so yeah, I know a lot of people were like, please tell me trends. You guys recorded trends after the tweet. This is that. We will get to it. This is that. We'll get to that. We'll get into the false flag operation that's happening in LA as we speak. Trying to bring martial law to the US. It's anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We might even get to Lil Wayne's terrible new album. I tried, y'all. I disagree, man. Well, so I'm a big Weezer fan, both Weezy and Weezer and they're finally together. Weezy. Weezery. That feels like a 2012 era internet mashup album. Like a Weezy x Weezer. Anyways, a lot going on. For people who don't know, Lil Wayne dropped an album that some are calling A Brick. And it's it has a cover of just a Weezer song, Straightforward. I'm on holiday. When you're on a holiday. There's him singing that straight forward.

Except it says Sip Sip. It said a dip dip. Yeah. Anyways, this is the episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend, but we also up top like to get to know each other ourselves a little bit better by telling you something we think is overrated, something we think is underrated miles. Is there something that you think is overrated? Overrated, matcha, matcha. Oh no. As we say, matcha, sorry, sorry y'all, it's over.

Not as a drink, cause that shit bangs, and it's wonderful. The drink is good, yeah. As a fucking trend, it's too much. Matcha everything. I don't know if I'm sensitive as a Japanese person, and seeing about how towns are being drained of it because tourists is coming in and buying everything.

Oh, in Japan? Yeah, yeah, in Japan. And just globally, there's just a craze for it now that it's inescapable. Everywhere there's a matcha something. And then I read two articles that were talking about different ones, talking about CEOs and their personal lives. They were both talking about how much, just talking about CEOs and their personal lives, they were both talking about how much they love matcha in it.

And I was like, this is so whatever. To me, I'm just saying as the trend goes, we have hit peak matcha, it's done. Just go back to stop talking about it. Leave it for the people who really fuck with it, let the trend die off so then the people who are into the trends can move on to whatever the next thing is,

a mango nectarine or whatever the fuck is out there and do that. Although I did have a mango nectarine this week and that shit was fucking fire. Mango nectarine? Yeah, yeah. Those fruits don't even seem that closely related. I know, but I was-

They're doing amazing things with, we live in an age of wonders that we can enjoy. I was going to one of these things that I like to call a farmer's market. Oh, and, uh, yes. And they were like, you know, it's good when the people are like, you have to try this and the dude just got his like buck knife out and just like sliced me off like a sliver and I gave it to the guys child. We're both like, what the fuck is this?

And he's like, mango nectarine. I had a bite of a peach that made like was so juicy and so delicious that my mouth started watering so much as I took a bite of it that it overflowed my mouth. Oh, like my own saliva. Wow. Like, you know, sometimes that happens when you chew a piece of gum, like some gum, like it's just like a salivary glands. Yeah. Anyway. So again, I love my anda and I love drinking it. Just the trend, the trend.

I'm not even coming at people that like it. I'm saying as this trend goes, it's too much now, it's overrated. Please, please put that down now and move on to the next thing. Have they done matcha Oreos and matcha Cheerios? Oh, they have matcha. I'm just Kit Kat. I feel like we're just getting started.

I know that's the thing. I think you're right. I don't, this is like coffee flavored shit to me. It's like, I like coffee. I like the effect that it produces. I like matcha because it comes with like caffeination and it's like a nice relaxing thing to drink. But like flavor, I don't know, like the flavor doesn't do

that much for me in other contexts. Sure, sure. People who really ride for coffee flavored ice cream, like my mom is so into coffee flavored ice cream. Yeah. Like there's some people who are just like, yeah. The kids from Jaws. Wasn't that a thing, weren't we reading about how like,

that was like a, or I think at least in Japan maybe that they really introduced coffee flavored, like candies and stuff to help like create the next generation of coffee consumers because they couldn't drink coffee. So if they were in treats that they could have, you now have the taste for coffee when you're of age.

That makes total sense because it's how the tobacco industry is like approaching getting children, introducing children to nicotine. It's like, what about this? It tastes like cotton candy. What if you smoked a battery with a straw on it? If it has a full color, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It's funny, whatever.

The industry's been taken over by the tobacco industry, so they're on the same shit. They're like, okay, how do we? Do you ever see somebody that looks too old to be vaping one of those things? Like, you know the little square battery ones that those tobacco vapes? I just saw someone, it just looks so funny. It was the same thing as the idea

that you're talking about those little spinny hats. like as if this dude, this like 70 year old dude with his spinny hat on pulled out this like fucking like multicolored soap, obnoxious looking. The ones that kind of look like lip gloss, like they're like highlighters, those like thick ass highlighters. It looks like it looks like. Who are you hiding from? Is your dad here?

And you're trying not to let him know that you're vaping? My man, you're 45. My man was fucking Joe Biden's age in this thing. I was like, this, whatever, bro, get it how you live. But it's just so funny to see something clearly marketed towards young people. That's where you can tell you, this is clearly aimed at young people

because when I juxtapose it with an older person holding it, I'm like, this seems odd. Yeah, this seems off. My overrated is just the job of being a tennis coach. I spent some time with the French Open this weekend. There were a couple of really good matches. But my wife is- Cocoa Golf 1, right? Cocoa Golf 1. Yeah. Hey. Incredible. Big underdog. Really amazing match. But we're watching, you know, my wife is like super into tennis.

We were watching like doubles and, you know, like all sorts of shit. It's just always on. And I picked up this thing that happens that I asked her about. But like when a player fucks up, they will look up into the coaching box, make eye contact with the coach and be like, what the fuck was that? Like when the player they will act like the coach told them to do that. Yeah. They'll be like, fuck man. And if they have a bad match, it will like build throughout the match. Like I saw one player like point at someone towards the end of a match as they were like losing and be

like you out of the box, like just directing people to leave the box. What did, what did your wife say? Like, what is the point? What are they? What are they communicating? It's a known thing. It's a known thing. And it's like, it helps with, it like gives them something to like let their emotions out with or something. But it's, it's completely irrational. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can't just like to them, by yourself. So you need somebody to, I mean,

some people go inward and then like start breaking rackets and shit. So like it's just like a known thing where coaches are like, yeah, you know, they, uh they get mad. Like the number one women's player, Sabalinka is like known for just like shouting at her coaches during matches. Like I guess, I guess they're like doing some coaching in during the match. So it's, you know, maybe it is, maybe they're like, hey, hit it with the frame instead of the string part.

Right. But that's like the sort of shit that they get back. Like what the fuck? When they like miss hit a shot. And the coaches goes, sorry, sorry. Like it does a good coach make it feel like, I know, I know. They just stone face. I saw some of the most stone faced just like, mm hmm.

Yeah. They know like it it's it's. As a coach, I'd be like, I'd be like, no, bro, handle that shit out on by your on your own. That's what this whole sport is for. I'm not. I can't help you. What do you want me to do? Just a real a real intense eye roll with a jack off hand.

I saw the thing like she was talking shit after she lost. Yeah, I think it was a real sore loser. Shut the fuck up, man. It was like, I know like the girl that I beat would have won today, but I, yeah, she was just, yeah, not fair. Okay. Okay. Why don't you yell at your coach?

Exactly. Well, that's what she normally does, but this time, I don't know. She, she just took it out on, she, she was being a baby. Yeah. Okay. But I'm sure I wonder if it would have had anything to do if Cocoa Golf wasn't a black woman. Hmm I don't want there's I just feel like you know black women women of color tend to have a hard time I've noticed never heard tennis. Yeah, this is never

Wacky thing. I'm look I'm looking I'm high from the weekend still man. I'm just saying shit I'm still this guy must be still high. Also overrated is the cost of tennis balls. How much is it can now? I don't know how much like it's like, I don't know. But I know it's something like that. I think no, no, no. I'm saying like they are overrating how expensive it is.

They only have six balls per set. Like, you know, in major league baseball, they go only have six balls per set. Like, you know in Major League Baseball, they go through like 140 balls per. I know they go through a ton, right? Yeah, just every time they want a new one, they just like throw one out there. Tennis, they only do six balls per set, and then you like get a new round of balls after the set.

But I was like, wow, they fucking, they're really like conserving those balls. Oh, crazy. I always thought they were like being weird when they fucking they're really like conserving those balls. Oh, crazy. I always thought they were like being weird when they were like checking the balls like before they serve. But I guess that's because there are, you know, they're only playing with the same six balls. So they're trying to figure out how to warn out a little bit. Yeah.

Anyway, that's tennis corner. Oh, yeah. Shut it. All the tennis fans are like, Jesus Christ, man. Listen to these assholes talk about tennis. It's painful. Sorry. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated a couple of things.

How far Lil Wayne has fallen off? Oh, man. I don't know. Again, I am not. I'll be the first to say I am not a Weezy fan, like a day one fan. I grew up with Lil Wayne, okay from the Cash Money days. I knew he was the youngest one. I remember all his verses from that era when he did his solo shit.

I was there a little bit for the ride, but I wasn't I have friends who are like will get like the Carter albums fucking tatted on their backs. If they were like if push came to shove on the internet, everyone was talking shit about this new Carter six album. So I was like, I got it. Like if the internet is shit, like usually people will be like, damn, we see a fuck, a fuck with the heavy. Woo.

It's not, it's not this time. I don't know. I'm, I'm listening to it. And I'm like, if I was one of these young people who like all you millennials talk about how weasies the goat or whatever, and here's the new album, what the fuck is this? Is probably what I would be saying. Cause you hear that all the time when like,

like rappers from the millennial heyday put an album out now that like Gen Z or younger people can interact with. And like, maybe that's the first time they hear an artist. And like, this is actually trash. Like, no, it's, this is not a good example. The previous works are. So anyway, I was just kind of, I didn't realize. I heard the gravel pit Wu-Tang Clan sucks.

Yeah, what is this? I saw their tour, only like five of them were there. But anyway, that's just an off-handed comment because I was really struggling to get through the album this morning. And the other thing that's, I think is underrated, going to bed early, like, and this isn't a novel idea or by any means, but I just-

I've never heard of it personally, but proceed. For me, right, I fucking hate doing it because I still have this childish urge in me to be like, I'm not going to bed early, I can go to bed late now because I'm 40. I still have this very weird childish conception of what it means to go to bed early. It's like you're in trouble. Okay. And a lot of the time after the guy's child goes to sleep, I'm usually using a lot of that time. I'm reclaiming a lot of personal

time, which people tend to do and be like, oh, I'm going to look at some shit on the internet. I'm going to maybe play a video game or read something, whatever. But I'm slowly realizing now that that time I think I am reclaiming for myself is actually a detriment to like everything else that I have thinking that I need to have going on. Because if I sleep better, I get through the day better. I'm better at parent. I'm better at patients.

I'm better at just getting through the workday and not feeling like I need to take a nap. Or I'm like, just like the second I'm finished, I'm like, oh my God. So again, I'm just realizing more and more that the, there isn't, the trade-off isn't as bad as I think it is. I'm like, well, then I won't get to play the new division two expansion that just came out. I'm like, dude, asshole, go to sleep, go to sleep, you'll feel much better. Because this weekend, I had one of those things where I had a friend's birthday and I was up late. Yeah.

And it stuck with me. I'm still feeling it today. And a lot of that has to do with because I'm already, I only charge my battery to 65%, I feel like, with sleep every day. And now I'm like no I gotta take care of that. So you gotta put it on low low battery mode. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I never take it off low battery mode. I'm always switching my phone to

low battery mode personally. Wow. And my personal philosophy on life low battery mode. I know you always have me switch it on for you when you can't reach your switch. Can you get it for me? All right. You switch this in the middle of my back for some reason. Damn, you really had this put in. It is true. I mean, there is, it is a real trade off though, right? Like, like the personal time is, you know, so some of the last, we have so little agency. So being able to be like, I get

30 minutes where I get to be do whatever I want. I'm going to watch all these Alex Caruso video edits. Yeah. Yeah. Like for what exactly? What? And like, and then I have to think to myself, I'm like, did that that really make up for anything? Did that really enrich me? Or again, am I just sort of used to this fucking weird ingestion of quick content as a thing that I think is my personal time? So anyway, it comes with a lot of philosophical things

of what do I actually need? Because even with parenting, man, I feel like there's thinking about having another kid at times, and I'm like, man, I feel like, you know, there's like thinking about having another kid at times I'm like, dude, I don't know. I like for me personally I very much want to feel like I still I'm like hold I'm like kind of holding on to who I was before parenting and I enjoy that person and I feel like another kid I'm like, I'm just gonna let that go and I'm like and then I become this other guy I'm like, I'm just going to let that go.

And I'm like, and then I become this other guy. So that's where the reclaiming of personal time thing, it's all, it's all existential. Anyway, go to bed early folks. It's, it's better for you. I've definitely had times where I was like getting to bed early and then like, I feel like I'm going to rut because I'm like not getting that time, you know, where it's like, Oh, I just like watched a movie last night or like broke it up a little bit, you know? Right, right, right. But yeah, I think I think generally good for the body, good for the soul.

That's what they say. That's what I really had those moments. You talk about how like being under slept feels like you're like you're drunk. Yeah. Or like I almost like I slipped on like a stuffed animal and almost fucking like died. Like it was so bad. Just cause I was like. Step on a stuffed animal and you find yourself just staring at the ceiling.

Yeah, exactly. Like two minutes later. Yeah, like I was, I felt like that's that moment in Snatch where Brad Pitt gets knocked out and he falls into like water. Like it's sung by the Stranglers is playing. Anyway, that's a very specific movie reference. My underrated is the appeal of

MAGA giving like white guys something to feel persecuted over because there's a story over the weekend that Brian Grazer who's like the dude who has spiky hair who's the production partner of Ron Howard. He's like produced a of really successful movies in the 90s, particularly. He just announced that he voted for Trump, which on the surface, just further evidence the way you get rich, you move to a... He was a famous Democratic donor and like this definitely cuts against his overall image. So like surface just evidence that like rich people like at a certain point they're on a different planet where everyone is just constantly trying to justify their unethical amount of wealth to themselves and each other. But in this case, I don't know, he's like, the Democratic Party was fucked and had no vision,

and therefore, I decided to vote for full blown fascism. White supremacy, yeah, what? And then in the same breath, he's like, voting for Trump feels like getting canceled, because he's like, somebody asked me if I voted for Trump, and I said I did, and they looked at me weird. My big question heading into the article is like, why would he

admit he voted for Trump? Like this seems like his politics are like part of what makes his career work. But I think it's, I think it's that like, and now I'm canceled. Like the, you know, just the white guy's eternal quest to like turn ourselves into the victim of systemic inequality because that like at some level there's like a recognition that they've benefited from it so they're always looking for like some thing to well because the Vic you need the victim hood yeah dimension to justify preserving whiteness. That's what it's always in service of.

I'm engaging in active white supremacy or domination over black and brown people. If that's an existential threat, now I'm justified in saying, well, this is why I have to maintain this concept of whiteness. And that's, yeah, that's for sexy. Without like saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Without admitting that to themselves. Instead, he's just saying, oh, I didn't like where the Democratic Party was going,

so I voted for Trump, I mean, not fascism. Well, yeah, it's just like, I feel like it's on the same continuum with like that article we talked about a few weeks ago about like the guy who's like, my name is Chad Chad and that's really difficult for me. But I'm okay with it. Yeah. Right.

But yeah, I just wonder if part of the appeal of mega isn't that you get to feel persecuted, you know? It's, yeah, it's again, I think a couple weeks ago, I linked off to this conversation by Ruby Nell Sales. It's like an essay about whiteness. I think it's really important to read because it's a very, very, like succinct breakdown of how white how pervasive whiteness is as a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, we're all it we cannot escape it. Obviously, we can we can separate ourselves from it and

know when we've internalized it. But it's really, it's a very interesting read to understand how this practice of whiteness is isolating for white men because it separates them from other people because they cannot see themselves as being in community with people of color. They have to because of masculine. It's a very, very interesting read. And I'll link off again to the footnotes. You should really read it because it's, I just, this is just a really great part of it.

In short, white men see themselves despite the outward manifestations of a history of social perversity and social death as good and kind men. Their image of themselves conflicts with how people of color know and see them. Rather than grapple with the ways that the acts of whiteness dehumanize them, they celebrate whiteness as a privilege and gift.

Devoid of the ability to reflect, white men distance themselves from the meaning and truth of the dehumanizing legacy of violence and oppression that are requirements of their identity and the source of so much human carnage. They overlook the moral nihilism that is the source of barbaric acts such as lynching, mob violence, state sanctioned violence,

and chemical warfare with lead in the water of indigenous and black communities. Goes on and on. It's just a very, I think there's, yeah, Brian Grazer totally just doing what this does to people, which is, I'm sure for him, he's like, it looks like it's getting away with us if we're gonna have a black woman in office

and they're talking about, you know, acknowledging queer people, ooh. But even then, it's just like, my God, I mean, I guess nothing's surprising anymore. And I think a lot of it too is all over and over. I'm like, what's really the difference between these two parties at the end? Or some of the- Between the two parties,

I don't know, we'll talk about it in a bit. Don't know the people that support them uncritically, you know? Yeah, I think like it's much easier to be like, yeah, so I voted Trump and now like, I guess I'm unpopular, but I'm like telling hard truths than just facing the actual hard truths of, you know, what you were just reading. Like what's in that essay?

Yeah, he's pushing the boat out and being like, hey guys, look, they're gonna cancel me, but I'm with you, so maybe it's in that asset? Yeah, he's pushing the boat out and being like, hey guys, look, they're going to cancel me, but I'm with you. So maybe it's not that bad. And maybe others too, because I think for him to have that much power, he's also trying to show other people too. It's like, hey, the water is bloody. Yeah. All right.

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And we're back. And Thursday, Friday, big days on the internet. Yeah, we can just take it in sequence and turn the volume up slowly on what happened. Thursday, the public break between Trump and Musk. It began with Musk talking shit about the big, beautiful bill, BBB. And during a photo op, Trump said he was very disappointed in Musk, who responded in real time on X by calling out Trump for his ingratitude. And then Trump claimed he would have won last year's election without Musk's money. And then Musk wrote, without me, Trump would have lost the election.

Oh, sick. Come back. Just tell. Like if if you were like, hey, I say the opposite of that one. OK, nice. Oh, somebody was like, this is a great showdown between the best poster of all time and the worst poster of all time All right soon Musk circulated a meme of acts of Trump as a shameless liar Shows Trump telling an interviewer

I have a plan to cut spending and brandishing a piece of paper on which he's written the plan and the plan is Increase spending. Oh Fucking burn dude. Holy shit. Damn dog. Easy Elon, easy Elon. So then Trump went on true social and said Musk had been wearing thin

and Trump had asked him to leave. So now it's not like about spending, it's that Elon quote, just went crazy. Ooh. And when Trump insisted on getting rid of the electric vehicle government subsidies that help Musk's Tesla car company, which by the way, it should be noted, not just help, it's like a big part of what his entire fortune is based on. Like the reason he's the richest person in the world is because of like government subsidies.

So Elon Musk said that was an obvious lie and so sad. Trump also somewhere in here was like, guys got a problem. Very sad. So they were doing the like, I actually feel sorry for you. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Sorry to my haters. It must be hard for you. Then Trump posted. So Trump posted that that Musk went crazy at 2.37 p.m., followed it up with the threat, the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, he's really on a be alliteration thing right now, is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. And again, to make it clear what this is all about, that is the point at which Elon dropped his

quote, really big bomb that everybody kind of knew about already. His claim that one of Trump's broken promises, the pledge to reveal declassified Epstein files hadn't happened because Trump quote quote is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. What the fuck? Did you really just say that? Wait, my Donald Trump? Hold on.

The one that's been photographed with free Epstein and the guy I voted for because, uh, I'm a fucking rebel. A lot of people were like, dude, if you knew that, why are you fucking with him? He went from he went from being like, I, I got this guy elected singlehandedly to be like, he's a pedophile. And I've known it all along. Problem. Why? Why? Yeah, that was like, I think that's when you were like, all right, do we need to like fire up the fucking machine again?

And I was like, it's either going to record on Friday. I was like, it's either going to explode even further or it's going to fucking fizzle out. And then all this other shit started going down because while that's happening too, we had on Friday, right? Because this is they keep going back and forth seeing like, you know, Musk at that point started deleting stuff, I think, by the end of the day, Friday,

like the episode shit when they're like, Oh, okay, so maybe he had a little too much dip on his chip there. And then when that's when we also started seeing simultaneously in LA, that these ICE raids were happening, specifically in like South LA Paramount area, where they went after like a couple of home depots, a garment business, a donut shop. And the goons came out and started just dragging people out,

cuffing them, whisking them off. And once protestor, once obviously activist, the community people around there found out, now you got to protest because people came out into the streets and protect their family and neighbors. Because's not just like hey it's time to fucking put our picket signs up they're like they're taking who okay well this no this is our community so ice had to then call the LAPD for help and then shit really starts escalating from there protests at the federal building in the main detention facility where a lot of these innocent people

are being detained in downtown started popping up. And if you remember last week, we talked about how Stephen Miller was crying to his wannabe Gestapo goons that they weren't arresting enough people. And he's like, we need to be arresting 3000 people a day and that they need to quote, get creative. And then we started seeing things like, they fucking raided an elementary school graduation and were physically separating children from their parents at their elementary graduation.

Because again, a lot of this whole thing was, we're going after the worst criminals, the most violent despicable pieces of shit that you don't want living here. But again, these people are going after like, people who are on like documented taxpayers because of their jobs and being like, whatever. Well, the easiest thing is just to go through this list

of people who are paying taxes and abiding by the law and just pulling up to their workplace because we'll know they'll be there or where their kids go to school or where they go to school. And so again, LA, a city fucking built on immigrants, a place that attracts people from all over the world, wasn't having it. Most of us that grew up here

have very close ties to immigrant communities, whether you actually are part of that community or not, or whether or not you're neighbors, that's just part of LA. You have friends who are Mexican from El Salvador, from Guatemala, from everywhere, Armenia, Thailand, it's just what LA is. So, you know, all of this energy that's sort of like natural, like the stress that people are feeling about ice raids, that's pretty felt pretty intensely in Los Angeles,

because we have a huge undocumented population. And many people again again are descending from immigrants. And I've got friends who are completely just filled with existential dread because of like the wonky levels of paperwork that have happened with immigration. I have friends who are on green cards who are wondering like, do I, is life as I know it going to get completely blown up when I'm sent back to where I've completely made a life here that I saw myself living. So a lot of this is being felt. So when we see ICE raids, the response is going to be to naturally protect our loved ones. Not again how Donald Trump is trying to frame all of this in his like false flag thing here as if immigrant goon squads are destroying the city for the hell of it.

Invasion. He's using invasion as the wording around it. 100%. 100%. And again, so now he wants to make an example out of LA because he knows that this city doesn't hide. So he's embarking on this bullshit false flag campaign for two reasons. One, warn other cities that he will conduct a military siege on your town if you don't cooperate with the illegal kidnapping of people. And two, to begin to really set, a lot of people are saying this and it's very true, set the formal groundwork for a full-on military police state. Because it always, it can't just start with, well, we're going to bat up our own citizens. No, it's got to be,, we're gonna bat up these immigrant people first.

But now you have the infrastructure for the military to do raids on fucking homes, businesses, whatever. And this is what Trump has said and what Project 2025 has stated from the beginning. So this is a very, very big moment. I think, yes, rightfully, there should be a lot of outrage over the ICE raids. But what I think is also very grim is to see what Trump is talking about because he's already saying I'm activating the National Guard

Under like these like these very stupid Narrowly used clauses to try and get just a bit closer to the insurrection act Which is what he wants to do and healed. That's why a lot of people are saying yeah Yeah, don, don't, don't give him the fucking optics for it. But at the end of the day, we have people fighting for their existence and I don't know how else it's going to happen because these people aren't the ones being violent. They're peacefully protesting. It's that they send these feds in and the police in that attack them and then create the chaos that they then roll the cameras on and say,

look how out of control LA is. Yeah. I feel like some important contexts that's been missing from a lot of the reporting, because the mainstream media has come around using the word brutal about the raids, but I feel like they're not specifically saying also sloppy and racist. They're walking up to brown people and arresting them if they don't have evidence of citizenship on them like they're going to a DMV appointment. A judge in April had to issue a ruling saying like you couldn't just stop people without direct suspicion that they were committing a crime in any way. This is a direct quote. You just can't walk up to people with brown skin and say, give me your papers, US District Court Judge Jennifer L. Thurston said during a

Monday hearing in Fresno. After the January sweep, so this is in response to a sweep in January, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, it's always like Bongino, Bovino, said his agent specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested. 77 of 78. They're just arresting brown people.

Same when they said those people were in Tren de Aragua, that gang, and they're like, wow, we have evidence, huh? Yeah. No, we don't have any evidence. But again, this is because we are in a fucking completely new era now with just total fucking no-breaks fascism where we're just scooping fucking anyone off with no due process and you don't know where you've gone. And they're expanding detention centers. The infrastructure is growing for this kind of thing. And that's what's so fucking scary about this. And you know, I just want people to know, LA is fine. LA is wonderful.

It's beautiful. We're going through a lot right now. We already have the production industry going down is already causing a lot of financial hardship for people in this city. But we're not being terrorized by people who aren't from here. To the contrary, the city is amazing because of everybody who comes from all over the world. And I don't give a fuck about papers. These people like this is, this is what's so infuriating is that for people who don't,

maybe don't have any experience with like flourishing immigrant communities around you, or just people who are not American, it's easy to just take the mainstream media sort of narrative and be like, oh God, it's, I guess it's gotten so bad that they're rioting now. No, it's not that they're rioting. And that's not what's happening. The riots, check, look at the, 1990, that was a fucking riot.

92. Okay, these are peaceful protests with people being antagonized violently by the police. And I know this is the pretext that Trump needs to say this is out of control. Now we need to quote, liberate Los Angeles, but we only need to be liberated from this federal police presence that's here.

We're fine, we're fine. And then the National Guard was called in. Trump tried to claim that the National Guard like handled everything. They didn't, that's not what happened. But now we do have like, you know, the National Guard's here. They're saying there's 500 Marines on standby and 29 palms to come to the city if needed.

And yeah, it's just escalation after escalation and it's coming from. It's unprecedented like there's. Yeah, this isn't. Yeah, this is not normal. Like an administration using fucking Marines on civilians is unprecedented. Like the National Guard thing, like you mentioned, unprecedented. Like that was used briefly during the Rodney King riots in 92 with the approval, like at the request of the governor. And before that, the last time a state National Guard was federalized

was when Eisenhower took over the Arkansas National Guard in order to protect black school children attempting to attend a newly integrated school. So that's, that's the history. And now they're already doing that and trying to ramp it up to like bring in the fucking Marines. But it is like, this is what he said he was going to do. Like from day one, he said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called the enemy within when the election takes place on November 5th. It should be very easily handled if necessary, but then by the national guard or if really necessary by the military because they can't let that happen. So there's also quotes from him. Like he talked about like Tiananmen Square and

he's like, they came in with the army and they put that down real quick. It was really beautiful. And you know, that's what he's been wanting to do this since 2020, you know, when, when the, when protesters filled the streets after George Floyd's murder. And I think now he's really like, it's, it's really interesting to the timing of it. I mean, obviously this was all foretold in project 2025 in his own words, but like, it's like coinciding with the frustration over the big, beautiful bill starting to kind of get slowed down more kind of like tariff uncertainty. And then Musk being like, you're in the Epstein files.

Right. That then it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. It's a big violent wind. Yeah. Feel, feel really good. And you know, protests are ongoing. People want ice out of this fucking city.

And yeah, for good fucking reason. So, I think the thing that's really now we're going to see is what exactly, how long-term this presence is, because based on like his little presidential decree he made about like that he could federalize the National Guard fucking anywhere. It seems like it can be open-ended and and I'm just like so when I have then you like look around you're like what are the what are the California Democrats saying and Adam Schiff is like oh boy this is not good you shouldn't don't don't give Trump what he wants folks it's like yeah God

yeah yeah what are you doing, man? Like this is serious shit. And we're, I mean, again, the real leadership is coming from the communities and people looking out for each other. And I think the one example that will be made to other cities is that, you know what? When people care enough about their community,

it's possible to resist. We saw people pushing ICE back. We've seen it in other cities. You saw it in New York. You see protests sprouting up in solidarity across the country. This isn't a thing that just affects LA. Yeah, like just a small group of like neighbors in San Diego. Like that was crazy.

Yeah. It's just a thing. This is just, I think this is one of those things too. People don't realize how connected we are to the idea of people coming from another place. I'm sure in places that are very just not diverse, sure, people's thinking might be different, but these other cities, these bigger cities,

and even in smaller ones, this is just a human thing. You might see somebody like, why are they fucking taking my neighbor? For fucking what reason? Aside from what? And I think that's the problem that the administration is having in terms of messaging, because all the polling is like, we're like, the immigration thing,

his handling of it polls well until they say, well, what about innocent people that get pulled away who aren't criminals? And they're like, well, no, don't do that. We're fine with the stated goal of the administration, which was the bad criminals, the murderers. Then they say, well, what about people who haven't committed crimes?

They're like, well, no, not bad at all. That, you know, the support for that drops precipitously. And, you know, they're just gonna keep going and wanna just create this fear and anxiety. TMZ is already, dude, TMZ is so fucking backwards. They're posting shit of like, the chaos unfolding in LA from protesters. Wow, of course, I mean,

because they're a right-wing rag basically anyway. But please just note that the media is still back on their bullshit of being like, violent protesters. Protesters are not violent. The police are violent. Let's take a not violent. The police are violent. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time.

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Oh boy. How about a little palate cleanser? And by palate cleanser, I mean something that we both drank during the commercial break just to like kind of even shit out. What a fucking world. Just the zeitgeist is so fucking weird now. It was one thing October of 2017, simpler times, Jack, for you and I. I know.

He was just wrapping their minds around the Trump administration. Now we're like, yeah, militarized police state and Sydney Sweeney's bathwater soap, Dr. Squatch. So it was recently announced that Dr. Squatch, which is a soap company and not a 80s sitcom where Bigfoot goes to medical school, Dr. Squatch will be selling a soap infused

with Sydney Sweeney's bathwater. I remember when the announcement came out last week, I was like, Jack, there's Sydney Sweeney's selling a bath, we'll just forget it. We don't even need to talk about this. We need to because it sold out in point zero. It crashed the site and sold out in point zero one seconds. Wow. Which. Wow.

Yeah. Wow. This is there is a precedent for this. Bell Delphine, who's like a famous YouTube personality, has also sold just straight shots of her bath water to people. Gamer Girl Bathwater, I remember that. Not for drinking though. They said it was a novelty.

So if you get Giardia, it's not on her. In both cases, the idea came from the comment section. So it's just desperately lonely, hor lonely people being like I could have your bath water I drink your bath water they're like people are always joking about this and do you think this is where I'm like this is where I'm having real trouble of like when does the stupid like fake metaphor line become a literal act that people engage in. Because it's always like, I'll drink your bath water. Right.

But now. Lull. Lull. I would, I would drink your bath water. Lull. Lull, lull. Well, I mean like how much of it can I get? Right.

Do I have to do it all at once? I do, I would do it at Edward Forty hands of your bathwater. Yikes. But like, so this is, it's not a doctor's, this isn't, did this one come from the comment section for Sweeney's bathwater? I think she did say like, people are always joking that they would drink my bathwater.

This is a really fun full circle moment because fans always joke about wanting my bath water. She continued. I was like, this is just such a cool way to have a conversation with the audience and give them what they want. Don't give people what they want, which is to consume your bath, swim your bath water and whatever that means to them. Yeah. Just bathing your bath water. Maybe that's all it is. So it's $8 a bar is what it's sold for online. And now the reseller market. The real mistake they made is the price point.

It sounds like they fucked up. Yeah. They should have been selling that thing. $8K. Honestly, that's really how... Here's the thing. I'm like, that's where I'm now like, okay, like whatever. Sidney, do whatever. If you want to sell'm like, okay, whatever, Sydney, do whatever.

If you wanna sell them the bar of soap with your bathwater, do so. What's your cut? I hope you get a significant cut, because it's your damn bathwater, theirself. I hope you're not just doing it for some weak money. I hope big Dr. Squatch is not taking all the money. Big Squatch, dude?

Boovering up all the profits? What is the fucking market research that they have that just says like Sasquatch anything is cool. Like it's there must be some study that was done because it's like jerky coffee, cocktails, clothing. Like there's so many different now soap to jack off with. There's so many different products that are like Sasquatch branded.

I don't. And none of them ever seem to fully take off and be a huge monster. Dr. Squatch is pretty big because I feel like I see Dr. Squatch massive. I feel like I see them sponsor a lot of YouTubers. That's where I thought it was a joke. Like, dude, today's sponsor, Dr. Squatch. I'm like, Dr. Squatch?

But I think Squatch Coated, that's just a way you get men to be okay with touching their butt holes and penises with soap. Dude, Dr. Squatch, man, to stay cool. Yeah, yeah, I use Dr. Squatch down there. Sure, man, if you need a cartoon character, Harry C Harry cryptid to help you be okay with buying soap. Yeah, I guess that is a real internet thing. Like, is it gay to wash your own legs and butt? Right? Yeah. Hey, Dr. Squatch said it's cool. If Mike Tyson says it's cool. Anyways, now being resold on eBay for as much as $2,000. Although I think like most of them are being sold for around $250, which sounds like that's what the,

what the price point should have been here. $8 was a mistake. I mean, you see, look, Sydney, next one up the Annie, sell like your whatever or do another round of this soap, but charge like fucking five grand a bar and have it all go towards charity. And you'd be like, yeah, bro, whatever. Yeah. They're like, there's not even my fucking bath water in it. Yeah. There's, uh, I mean, this is a market that I've not like, we

had somebody read an article on cracked about their like being able to have a really nice side hustle by like selling their underwear on Reddit and stuff like that. Like there's, there's been people out here trying to get this shit got lost in the sauce, selling her underwear. And she was like, it's such good money. I'm losing my motivation to do what I actually was trying to do when I started doing this to make ends meet. Right. And then was like, finally, like, no, no, I got to like, I'm like, I was trying

to get my master's degree. I need to go get that done. She went and worked for Dr. Squatch. Yeah, no, she did. She did it. She's doing great things. Big things, big things. Big things. And only a little bit of debt. But thank you to all the Custies that bought the Dusties. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines where you still can't get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.

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