The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeit's Hard Lemonade 10/12: Lakers, Bill Burr, Holocaust, John McCain

Episode Date: October 12, 2020

On this edition of Zeit's Hard Lemonade Jack and Miles discuss the Lakers winning the 2020 Bubble Season, Bill Burr hosts SNL, Twitter will finally remove posts about Holocaust denial, and John McCain's Mother has passed at 108. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Whoa. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Zite's Hard Lemonade. I'm Jack O'Brien. That's Miles Gray. So refreshing. And now I already have a headache from all the sugar. Yeah, but that's the gateway booze for children of the 90s.

Yeah, it's like the Jolly Rancher of alcohol. I think that was the first thing I got, no, before the school, high school fair. We drank way too much Smirnoff Ice and then drove to our high school. I don't know what goes through the mind of a fucking teenager. Was Goldschlager still a thing when you were first yeah but that was like the yeah because we're we're you know we're in the same orbit that was always the back of the liquor cabinet shit that no one noticed was there because that was this i remember that was the first thing i heard kids were drinking what the fuck is that is that vodka is that gin

what is i know those words it was just like peppermint schnapps with flakes of golden. Wasn't it? I never drank it myself. We would always see it and hear it, and I was always like, I'm going to drink this weird old cachaca that my dad bought 10 years ago that he doesn't know he has. That was the first thing I got real lit up on and went to a school dance and had a real blast.

Gold schlager. Shout out to the kids. Shout out to thelager shout out to the reckless ass teenagers yeah don't do that uh all right let's tell the people what is trending uh of course the laker all sorts of sports things are trending but the l Lakers being numero uno. We talk about it a little bit on tomorrow's episode, but I mean we can't really talk about this enough. Your team, the team of the city in which the Daily Zeitgeist

is recorded, has won the world title. And how do you feel? I feel great. Thank you so much. I couldn't have done this without Jesus Christ, my Lord, and the support of my teammates and my mother and father. Yeah.

I love it. It's really bittersweet though because in LA, like we gather around our sporting events, like that's the reason to have people over and we're having a barbecue and having fun because the Lakers are playing or the Dodgers are playing and the stakes are higher and it was it sucked to like not be with like my usual group of people that i've always like celebrated the last at least five with since

2000 um especially like my family like my grandfather my dad like i'm i'm a laker fan because of them so to not be able to share those moments i think is it's actually tough so it was weird i i found myself being like screaming in my kitchen watching on my cell phone uh to then like getting like kind of morose suddenly her majesty's like but you guys won and i'm like where's my grandpa my other what was it all for yeah but other way i will say this man it was it was a relief to watch the game be settled by halftime um because i the game game five was a nervy affair uh but it was a great game but enough to make me be like oh no they are also capable of playing at a very high level it was just more of like can it can it be sustained? And once I saw Jimmy Butler leave that press conference after game five,

I was like, thank God. Like the man destroyed his body in that game. Like he walked up, like he had been in seven plane crashes. Yeah. Yeah. In fact,

LeBron never, never went down post-season game too. Yeah. This is never missed a post-season game. And he's played three seasons worth of postseason games so in addition to right yeah add on top of all the games he's played just because he's getting old and was playing full season since uh he got out of high school add three seasons on top of that and this dude just never breaks down um that's the thing that like people who

know basketball and like pay attention to him say is underrated about him is that this dude just like works on his body non-stop like that's he he works on his body like it's a full-time job and then works on basketball like it's a full-time job so and yeah credit to him and thank you for bringing one to la another one because as he said we are shitty i remember when he signed i was like we don't like you know you remember this because i'm shitty at the end of the day and it wasn't that like i didn't think he was a good player it's like more that you feel that it felt like he was cheating in a way because he is the best player so i'm like i liked when we had kobe and we drafted him and we held

on to him and we were doing able to do that it gives you a little more of like it feels a little bit more earned in that sense because i can already say see people being like oh yeah just assemble a super team and i'm like yeah well guess And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what we did? And shout out to Rob Palenka, even though he didn't get it, the executive of the year. But you know, a fun fact was the year when Kobe was a rookie, the executive at the Hornets got executive of the year for trading for Vlade Divac and giving us Kobe. So it shows you this, people don't really know what half these things mean.

Awards, I mean, look at movies. They're imperfect. The best movie the best movie rarely wins the academy award you need you need some some scope that's why it's all got to come from the inside it's never external that's right lakers fans have certain luxuries that other sports fans don't have it can be a bit infuriating but yeah we're up there with like yankees fans you know what i mean right we're like used to it and it's a there's a sense of entitlement without an acknowledgement of privilege um but i do i mean i get it we we're we have like the mythology of the franchise behind us

and a lot of legendary players which is an attractive opportunity for people and that helps and the city's just happy to uh see that you guys came around to having the best the greatest player world on your team uh there's still people who i i'll tell you this i've seen some takes from people who are lakers fans who are like whatever yeah and i'm like you're come on like let's it doesn't have to be so one-to-one. It's not your new dad, okay? You think the fact that he won a title with the year that Kobe passed with saying every game that they were doing it for Kobe, you think that would bring people around?

Well, they should have done it in the Mamba jerseys then. Right. Yeah, if he was true. Oh, fuck right off. If he was a real one. Yeah. Either way,, fuck right off. He was a real one. Yeah. Either way. Shout out to them.

Shout out to my boy, Rohan, who's one of the videographers who has some of the best content. I love you, man. And your IG stories have been fantastic to watch from someone on the outside who's also a Laker fan. That's so dope.

Yeah. All right. And end Lakers talk for, for all you non sports heads. Bill Burr was trending over the weekend. He was Bill Burr, but it was like on a national SNL level stage. And so a lot of people got in their feelings about it, basically talking shit about white women and white liberal women.

fucking shit about white women and white liberal women and uh it was you know i i like bill burr i think he's a funny dude this is it was this because i just saw a headline that his um monologue was this he did stand up for his monologue yeah he did stand up and to be honest like the the two takes i've seen is like people need to shut the fuck up. Like Bill Burr is hilarious all the time. And then people being like, that was the worst thing I've ever seen. He wasn't funny. And it was, and it was like actually not his best.

Like he, he kind of flubbed a couple of punchlines and shit. Like I can, I can see that argument, but like the points he's making are just like the points that he always makes. And like like he has a very like well-worn point of view and sometimes it gets on my nerves this one didn't really get on my nerves yeah he can be a bit of a double-edged sword sometimes yeah all right full and then

other time like yeah well well facts on that yeah yeah anyways uh holocaust was trending why the fuck was holocaust i don't know because it's 2020 so i'm like jesus what now uh so facebook has announced that they are going to now be taking down holocaust denier content this shit can no longer uh live on their platform they said we were just we're we're banning all of this content i mean that's denying the hunt system completely destructive and disgusting we will not allow it the thing is everyone's like well here's the other thing bro you were letting the holocaust denial content bang on the platform for this fucking long like you just now are like all right we made a decision we realize it is bad to deny the holocaust and that just genocide of people from the second

world war we're just gonna wait that's our new policy so it's a bit of a head scratcher but i think a lot of people too like who are in the sort of tech news overlapping journalism sector like i think this is probably because they're looking at what they think is going to be the next administration and realize they need to get their shit together or get hammer smashed into a million bits. Um, so whichever way you look at it, it's a fucking bummer. Do you think,

do you think, yeah, cause this, this came up, uh, last week or a couple of weeks ago when they decided to start banning Q posts like the most toxic malignant, uh,

you know, cult. Yeah. That veers into anti, anti-semitic tropes too right uh do you think an actual memo went around or like it was probably not put in writing but somebody actually had a call where they were like hey it's looking more and more like we're going to you know the polling which nobody should pay attention to, but they probably do, that, you know, we could have a democratic administration. Like, we need to start, like, banning Nazis. Like, we need to, we can antagonize Nazis now. Like, was it a calculated approach that they were like, get to bang yeah I think it's it's also like okay if we get too anti-nazi what does that do to our bottom line what does

that do to like can we have as much explosive growth if we're just like keep it completely just a hell-spun playground for just the worst kind of takes uh but his fucking statement is like kind of eerie because i'll just he's talking about today we've this from mark zuckerberg today we've updated our our hate speech policy to ban holocaust denial they said we've long taken down posts that praise hate crimes uh but with the rising rising anti-semitism we've expanded our policy to prohibit any content that denies or distorts the holocaust as well he goes down a little bit further, says, I've struggled with the tension between standing for free expression and the harm caused by minimizing or denying the horror of the Holocaust. My own thinking has evolved as I've seen data showing an increase in anti-Semitic

violence, as have our wider policies on hate speech. Drawing the right lines between what is and isn't acceptable speech isn't straightforward, but with the current state of the world, I believe this is the right balance. It's not about balance. It's right and wrong. It's clear. Holocaust denial is just absurd.

Anyway, so glad his thinking has evolved on this very straightforward topic. Yeah. Also, Superna hosnier pointed out that uh being a professional basketball player is a full-time job uh i was just gonna say he with lebron i was saying he works on his body like it's a full-time job he he works on his game like it's a full-time job he works on his body like it's a full-time job and he's also like the spokesperson for all professional athletes so he has like three different full-time jobs and i'm

worried about each other you know because he's so busy taking care of everybody else but what who's taking care of lebron that's what i'm saying you know he needs that's why he said just give me my respect man that was it that wasn't interesting it was a less jarring, but still interesting moment. It reminded me a little bit of Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech where he gets up there and is like, yeah, I know you've all been saying I couldn't do it. And it's like, what? No.

But it was just the way that these really great athletes who are already, have already convinced 95% of the population that they're great, they have to focus on that 5% that is still haters. Fuck the other 95. It's these 5%ers that I've got to get to. Skip Bayless is doing God's work, basically. Yeah, right.

Oh, Jesus. John McCain is trending um his mother because his mother passed away roberta she passed away at age 108 i forgot about this person and i can't believe it i was like when i saw john what happened his mom like what is the anniversary of her passing away i'm like oh she just wow uh so she was 108 years old that is i mean i don't know anything about her but i my own grandmother my mom's mom she lived to be 102 uh centenarian man that shit is that's a fucking vibe uh when you get that old although like towards the end there uh depending on how how with it you are can be a little touch and go but uh it's it's amazing when you're like kind of like we all this number of 100 is so like mythical and you're like damn full short he got to 108 yeah it's pretty incredible

108 like that's that's uh leaving 100 in the dust yeah 100 his name's also trending because he has a book coming out where he like it was written before he passed and he kind of uh takes some shots at trump uh so from beyond the grave that'll be interesting to see also there's a story bubbling up uh or was bubbling up over the weekend that the taliban uh endorsed trump is that is that a thing they do they normally endorse candidates like i haven't really been in touch with their comms office that often yeah um but i i think just like the new england journal of medicine in a rare move endorsed a political candidate a presidential candidate as did the taliban yeah but i have a feeling maybe they did before.

It's weird because they make it clear, like, yeah, we like him because he's trying to get these troops the fuck out of here. Right. Yeah. It's like, oh, okay. Sure. So, you know, if that affects your vote,

please fuck off. Yeah, yeah. All right, guys. That is it for this afternoon. We will be back tomorrow with a whole-ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Wear a mask.

Wash your hands. Stay inside. And don't do nothing about white supremacy. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Let's go! There's so much beauty in Mexican culture, like mariachis, delicious cuisine,

and even lucha libre. Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of lucha libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.

I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch

with the best guests you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer, Emma Roberts, and Colin Jost. Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster? Yeah. Whoa. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate and often hilarious.

Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest.

We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.