The Daily Zeitgeist - Zohran The Unflappable, Return Of Melty Trump 07.01.25

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

In episode 1888, Jack and Miles are joined by journalist and author of Becoming Baba: Fatherhood, Faith, and Finding Meaning in America, Aymann Ismail, to discuss… ZOHRAAAAAANNNN, M3GAN 2....0 Loses Box Office Race to F1, Disney World’s Trump Animatronic No Longer Looks Like A F**ked Up Hilary Clinton and more! Zohran Mamdani says, "I don't think we should have billionaires because frankly it is so much money in a moment of such inequality" N.Y. Senator ‘Misspoke’ When She Falsely Claimed Zohran Mamdani Condoned ‘Global Jihad’ Box Office: ‘F1’ Zooms to $55.6M Opening and $144M Globally, ‘M3GAN 2.0’ Bombs With $10M U.S. Start Disney Updates Donald Trump Animatronic for The Hall of Presidents Following Hillary Clinton Controversy LISTEN: Grind by Les SinsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How old are your kids? Four and two and a half. Wow. They lived. They survived. I was like, if I can get them to two and a half. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I don't have to worry about them. Like suddenly getting like dying at night. I'm always like checking to like check their breathing. I gotta like poke my head in to make sure they're still there. like dying at night. I'm always like checking, like check their breathing. I got to like poke my head in to make sure they're still there. And every time I hear like the door open, I'm like, did the kids just run outside? Yeah. And now it's like weapons style.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We're doing the movie that's coming where all the children just like sprint outside. It's the way they run that freaks the shit out of me because they're not just running. Their arms are out. Like they're trying to get fucking swept away by the wind or some shit. Yeah, and I'm gonna watch it. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, it's freaky It's so free. I think I have to watch it just because the trailer fucked me up so bad You should bring your kids to see it, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like see you do that. Let's freak mommy out And mama get a special effects knife and start acting like I'm stabbing myself in the face like the one lady in the trailer That part is also so fucked up
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, that happens in the trailer Yeah, he stabs himself in the face a bunch of times Just like this Casual, casual, casual What better way to teach your kids not to play with knives? Yes, blade safety Blade safety Oh no
Starting point is 00:01:24 Dad, you could just say, don't do that. It's dangerous. You don't have to take me to a two hour horror film where children are doing who knows what. After every scene, I like lean in and I say, see, this is what happens when you don't listen to your parents. Exactly. I show them hereditary for safety about when, you know, being, sticking your hand out the door.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Out the window. Super narrow. Predatory for safety about when you know being sticking your hand out the door Teaches super narrow lessons like yeah. Yeah, that's why my dad took me to see Jurassic Park when I was two He told me not to fuck with dinosaurs and I never did Is important it's underrated and I was never about to be fucking with them dinosaurs It's important. It's underrated. And I was never about to be fucking with them dinosaurs. I will now. Oh, yeah. You had to watch it in the arch of the doorway at the theater because I was screaming my face off. How old are you? How old are you?
Starting point is 00:02:14 Two. Yeah, I was two years old. Yeah. And that starts off with a banger scene. Yeah. No, they try to bring that raptor in. In the first three minutes, I was gone. Shoot. Yeah. Is it PG-13? We'll be talking to your therapist years later and they're like, Yeah, no, they try to bring that raptor in. In the first three minutes I was gone. Shoot up! Is it PG-13? We'll be talking to your therapist years later and they're like, why don't you want to go to the museum with your friends?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Like, I don't want to talk about it. I do not want to talk about it. I don't want to go to the zoo. I don't want to go to the fucking... This is an iHeart Podcast. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree? Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
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Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, what's that? Okay Ginger Snap Day National creative ice cream flavors. That's come on. That's too creative ice cream flavors Like what? That's come on. That's too creative ice cream flavors like what it's on shade uncreative ice creams over here Yeah, I mean like what they're just sure mint. They're showing a picture of mint chocolate chip No, all right Mozart, why don't we slow it down chocolate chip? Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, we're not ready for the where Nick of Bingo. Yeah Is this a commentary on the Spanish Civil War,
Starting point is 00:05:47 this chocolate chip ice cream? It's also National U.S. Postal Stand Day and National Postal Worker Day. We love y'all. Shut up, you postal workers. We love the postal service. One of the few parts of the federal government that fucking operates properly.
Starting point is 00:06:01 God bless them. Zeitgeist cares and don't nobody else care, to quote Tupac. people lock up your dogs, man We're tired of it. Yeah, we're tired of them hurting people exactly in our postal workers and lock up your federal government Who keeps yeah? Defunding the fucking post office that too. Yeah. Well, oh boy. Yeah His Jack O'Brien aka rolling out the sky to the tarmac when you just in a puke Bag lack with your vomit my pocket in my pocket full of volume
Starting point is 00:06:32 Oh one courtesy of Rezek on the discord in reference to the time that I flew 14 hours with my seven-year-old thought we were good and then he got air sick on The land like he got land sick Oh, yes. Yeah like on the tarmac and no bag no air sickness bag I know for some reason about this right the lack of bags now because they say it's actually more stable now So people aren't as sick, but it's like people still get motion sickness on airplanes regard Yeah, that sucks. It was like I think theunginess of the shocks was just like fucking with his inner ear a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And it was also probably like right as the, what's it called? Drama mean wore off. But I had to walk up to the flight attendant with just my hands being like, help me. My supper, please. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, he's back on the streets of the San Fernando Valley off a plane, Des Moines. I've got a shout out Alex at Ray Gun. Shout out everybody who came through with the tips. Beautiful, beautiful town.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Beautiful town. You got there. Beautiful. I mean, I was on a, I was on a call video call with you and I took that shit by the river flowing river in the background. They got real rivers. They just got water. Like the, they don't even have to try to have water.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I just have like green plants that are green just by accident. Just crazy when you live in. Yeah, it's because we live in a city that wasn't meant to be inhabited. So I truly feel like that's there is something that is so relaxing about being in a place that is meant to be lived where vegetation grows naturally. Without having to steal water from elsewhere. Yeah, you don't have to like stop and just like hear an entire city that sounds like
Starting point is 00:08:33 it's on a life support system. Yeah, exactly. Like this shit like being like pumped in and out of various places and fucking air conditioners, just a fucking beehive worth of air conditioners buzzing through your neighborhood. Dude it is humid as shit in Iowa. I thought I was in Japan or some shit. The humidity is not a joke though. But anyway, thanks for having me Iowa. I had all the local food. I had breakfast pizza. I had crab rangoon pizza pizza. I had I KC's the gas station everything
Starting point is 00:09:08 I had to do all crab Rangoon pizza does get it like the thing that I feel like the Midwest is the best at is Just like finding creative implementations of yeah. Yeah, unless you're a and you eat it and then you go the fuck is this And you eat it and then you go the fuck is this Have the crab rango pizza from fongs pizza I said Fong Oh, is this like some some Chinese people some immigrants open this? No, no Just people with a vibe. They just went for a vibe here. Just had very orientalist Movie with the name Fong in it once. One of those cats that's like waving. Yeah, it was like I'm like, that's Japanese. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But anyway, otherwise, so fucking yeah. Wonderful. Wonderful. Great time. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by one of our favorite guests and award winning writer. Staff favorite guys. Oh, yeah, baby. Just wait till the other guests hear that. I wouldn't give you my iPhone to give you to your cousin for nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yo, I still owe you that photo. I know I didn't look. I wasn't trying to bring it up. But when you said, yo, I'm looking for an iPhone for my cousin. I said, I got you. Yeah, you owe me that photo from your cousin. You came through. So my cousin Mawad has it right now.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And last I checked, he was in the Red Sea with his son, Malik. All right. Let me see. Have him send you one. Yeah. It was a little bit concerning because you're sending me pictures from underwater. And I was wondering, is he submerging this phone? No, no.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's just waterproof. That's just waterproof. He's good. He's good. That's crazy. What is this magical phone? Just like an old iPhone Pro that they were waterproof for a minute. You could take underwater photos on an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, it's so hard to get an iPhone in the red sea. And you go there and every single person has an iPhone. And you're like, how the fuck are they getting this? And it's just people like Miles. There you go. We're supplying the whole country with iPhones. We have to say, specifically, it is Miles. It's just me, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Supplying the city of Cairo. I go to restaurants. I take people's I just snatch people's iPhones off their tables when they're eating and I send them to Egypt. Amen, stop. I need to introduce you. Stop interrupting me while I introduce you. The author of Becoming Baba, the president of the Arab and Middle Eastern Journalists
Starting point is 00:11:19 Association. You might've seen his work in places like, I don't know, CNN, The New York Times, NPRGQ, Columbia Journalism Review. Welcome back to the show. Aiman Ismail! It's funny. I just updated my profile. My bio to include the fact that I was arrested by the NYPD. That's just as impressive as being on TV. In 2016.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Before it was fashionable. Yeah, before it was cool. And we got her yelling, AIMEEE! Good to see you, man. See, Heinz, it's still cool. Yeah, yeah. I talked on yesterday's episode about the Heinz Mustard. I wonder, like, are they doing that with Kendrick?
Starting point is 00:12:01 I mean, they have to be, right? You don't know, I don't know. You reported on it, did they say that? I did report on it. I mean, you have to be right. You don't know. I don't know. You reported on it. Did they say I did report on it? I mean, you read, are you read an article out loud about it on a microphone? Your reporters are getting lazier and lazier, man. Yeah, this is. I did not look up anything other than that. They did it.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And you got to call Kendrick and ask for comment. Yeah. Oh no, no. Yeah. They, they did it with mustard. They're not, they're not going to go full, full whackadoo to Jack in the culture like that, although I wouldn't put it past them. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And famously known for respecting the culture. Yeah. So much cool shit, bro. Let me show you this. This is my book. Yeah, it's finally here. I have a real copy. Congrats, man. Holding that.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That must feel good. That is a beautiful book. This is the happiest day of my life. Wonderful addition to the bookshelf. You know, like a beautiful blue that just like pops. You know, this is a school photo from like the first grade and on the cover. Too much. Dude, you got too much sauce in that school photo. I'm so saucy in this school photo. You hit the angle.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You said, yeah, I might look at you. I'm looking at the cameraman like he just called me a slur. Oh, yeah. It is side eye for sure. Like you said, what? Yeah. But I remember what was in my head at that time. And I remember thinking like, damn, anybody who's smiling in this picture is wack as hell.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm not going to smile. Wow. I'm not like that. I'm like real, dude. Yeah. I'm not like that. I'm like real, dude. Yeah. That's what I was feeling. And it's funny because this was when I saw this picture, I was like, yeah, that's the cover of the book.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, right, right, right. And it's autobiographical. It's a memoir. It's a memoir. It's a shame to say because it makes me feel like I'm old and I've got like a big beard and I smoke a pipe, but no, man, it's specifically it was called Becoming Bubba. And it's specifically about that time period in every man's life. I mean, not every man's, but it's about specifically about that time period
Starting point is 00:13:53 when you have your first kid and your life flips upside down and you become a Bubba. Bubba is just Arabic for dad or daddy. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, you guys are both parents. You guys are both fathers. And so I think you guys can both relate to like that moment when you feel like you're prepared, you know, you don't really know what to expect. But you did your research.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You're there for your wife. You saw her get bigger and bigger and bigger. Then the day comes and you just can't wait. And then the baby comes and you're old and you're just like, this is this is real. I'm a dad now. Yeah. And like for the next year, you don't sleep at all. Yeah And then you're so good apart and then you think of yourself different and your priorities change and your diet changes and everything just changes
Starting point is 00:14:33 So this book is chronicling what that's like, you know and another thing I'm trying to like dig into is The fact that this is like the first generation of like parents like us who care about our kids in a very emotional way, or we want to be part of the day to day. We want to raise them. We want to teach them. We want to show them the world as we see it. That's kind of new because I have yet to find somebody whose dad felt the same way. It sort of feels like this is the first generation of this kind of dad. And so I wanted to chronicle it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I wanted to write it out. And it's really special because it's from the Muslim perspective. And I have never seen a piece of media that centers the Muslim father as they become a father, particularly ones when they're born and raised outside of a country and they're born in diaspora. Right. Because there's like this really big fear that the more I talk to people, the more I realize that they share, which is that they'll be the reason why their kids have no connection to their motherland. Mm hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And it's like my Arabic already is kind of like, OK, it's not great, but I know maybe like 10 percent of the Arabic that my parents know. Right. And I'm so worried that my kid will have like 10 percent of the Arabic that I know. 10 percent. Yeah, I'm going through that with that. I'm just going to quit math right now. That's like 10 percent of the Arabic that I know. 10 percent. Yeah, I'm going through that with that. I'm doing some quick math right now. That's one percent, guys. Yeah, it's like if you're Hispanic, imagine like your kid going someplace and being like,
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'll have the pico de gallo. You know, it's sort of where I'm at. That's sort of where I'm at. Yeah. So this book chronicles it and it digs deep and it tries to figure out where those feelings come from. Right. The weird ways that they surface, like trying to pick the right name for your kid. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Also, like when you're on the phone with your mom and then she gets mad at you because you're doing something that she expects your wife to do instead. It's like all of these weird things come up and more than anything, it's an entertaining book. It's one of those books you can just like read on the subway. You can, you know, I wouldn't recommend reading it while you're driving, but there's audio books for that. It's so funny because like, yeah, some of my family in Japan, like they saw me with my kid and they're like, Oh, you're like a mommy. The way I was interacting with you.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You interact. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, the fuck you talking about? This is my little baby. I love the fuck out of him. Why are you holding him? Where's your wife? Go smoke a cigarette outside with your uncle's drink a beer. Yeah. Be emotionally distant. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Well, it's out now. People can go find it wherever books are sold. It's about to be out. It's going to be out next week. July 8th. July 8th, everybody mark the calendar. And you're doing some appearances with the book too. Yeah. So the first one, July 8th, I would love for people to come but it's already a little sold out
Starting point is 00:17:14 Humble humble brag but Yeah, yeah, if you do want to come in you gotta stand outside and just yell, Master. Yeah, or Zygang. Yeah. Or if you come up and say, Miles sent me a Jackson. Yeah. That's all good. You can definitely get in or come with an iPhone to trade in. If you send an iPhone to Egypt, I'll give you a free book.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That's the deal. Well, congratulations on the book. Thanks, man. I'm really dumb excited, bro. You should be. You should be, man. It's such a great achievement. It's very cool.
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's so hard to self promote, but I'm trying to get over that hang up. For sure. Yeah. And I get that. You're doing great. Thanks. Thanks. And do you have any non sold out appearances? I do. The day after, I'm going to literally the next morning, jump you on a plane going to Boston where I'm going to be doing another event there, Bookline Bookshop, and I'm going to be doing another one in Queens and then a homecoming in Newark, New Jersey, where I was born and raised
Starting point is 00:18:13 and where I live now, but I'm also trying to, you know, it feels like I'm still trying to schedule some stuff. I'm in talks with a bookstore in Toronto. I'm trying to do one in Lexington, Kentucky. Hell, yeah. I used to live there. Did youington, Kentucky. Hell, yeah. Because there did you really? Yeah. For three years. Gorgeous. I just got back a couple of days ago.
Starting point is 00:18:30 They got books down there. But I got family out there. It was like so many scenes in this book that happened in Kentucky. Yeah. And it feels like that's one place I want to, like, bring this kind of story to. Because, you know, if you're in the East Coast or on the West Coast, you know, Muslims, you got Muslim friends for places like Kentucky, you might bump into somebody at the shopping store.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You're the first Muslim person they've ever met. Right, right. Right. And that's that's sort of where I want this book to live. Oh, yeah. Well, everybody should go check it out. Go preorder it. Order it somewhere that's not Amazon. And you guys are the best. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a right. Well, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:19:06 First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. We're gonna check in with Zoran Derangement Syndrome. Yeah. Zoran! You bastard! And M3GN 2.0. Did not do great at the box office.
Starting point is 00:19:25 F1 did. F1 got that Daily Zeitgeist bounce. You know that when you advertise with us, you set records baby. Nothing to do with Brad Pitt. Nope, nope, never heard of him. I mean, Brad Pitt, powerful box office fourth. Brad Pitt with the approval of the Daily Zite guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I think people are going to see that movie. And then we got a new Trump animatronic at the hall of presidents that looks both more like Trump and the worse. Yeah. So be interesting how he responses that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Amen, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Mm hmm. All right. Let me open it up. I will just be as blunt as I can possibly be. Yes. Oh, it's a it's a bad one. Slash, good one. Marjorie Taylor Green, Nicole Berka. I feel like this doesn't require any more explanation. Yeah, it's pretty self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yes, I was writing up some staff writer for Slate magazine. I just finished writing this piece about Zoran Mamdani and the aftermath of attacks that he's he's facing and one of my favorite things afterwards was Marjorie Taylor Green, MTG, posting an image of the Statue of Liberty dressed in a burqa. Yeah. And I was like kind of suspect because I've only ever read about it at that point. And I was like, well, it's not like like who called it a burqa? Did she call it a burqa? I was sort of worried that it would just be like a hijab and people would just
Starting point is 00:21:00 jump on it and call it something else. Right. Or like a niqab. There's like so many different styles of of hair covering in the Muslim world. And so I looked it up. I was like, let me just fact check them. I've never I'm not confident that like somebody like Marjorie Taylor Green can be racist correctly.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I just wanted to be sure. Yeah. Just in case I needed to do like a quick fact check in my piece. But no, she was right. It was it was a burger. So for you, honestly, and I'm sorry. So I for doubting you, I didn't I didn't realize your game. The caption on it was said this hits hard.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Mm hmm. What the fuck are you saying? What kind of really isn't a fucking can about it, though? Mixed tape. You think about it, though, when you think about it, shit is hard, dude. Wow. Yeah. What's something you think is underrated? Amen. This is this is why I love coming on the daily like guys, then you guys I love that. I love answering this question because it changes every time right now.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Overrated, I'm going to say, like being in your feelings. You know what I mean? Feelings of feeling in your feelings. It's like I get it. Like right now, we're in this moment where people want to be in touch. They want to like impress those Bushwood girls, you know, which you totally should. And I literally did just write a whole memoir about like my feelings about things. But at the same time, I think stoicism, unfortunately, is getting pulled out of the space when people
Starting point is 00:22:24 are trying to be more in touch with their feelings because there are so many situations where you shouldn't and can't be emotional. For example, I mean, I work in journalism, and so I'm constantly trying to find the space to be like my authentic self, but at the same time, you can't be. You sort of just need to be stoic, be in control, your emotions and try to look at things in a sober way. And but I feel like that applies to everybody in so many different circumstances. And you know, I guess parents is specifically as parents, there's you have kids who rely on you, man, and they look up to you and they want to be playful and they you do need to hone your skills at locking in and zoning in on being
Starting point is 00:23:05 the most present version of yourself, and you've got to be able to regulate your emotions for sure. Right. So if your kid like spill some milk, you can't just like get pissed off at them. You got to like you got to be in control and you got to say, oh, here's some. Here's some paper towels, man. That's like I still do that. Yeah. You have that moment where the road forks off and like, do I act out my childhood right now?
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm like, okay. So okay. So here's the thing. We don't throw spaghetti on the floor or at me and my nice white tea Okay, so I understand you want to play but then we have to eat our food Yeah, there's so many times where I realized too reflexively, I want to just be, take shit personally from a toddler too. Like having to really cauterize that sort of reflex has been, again, an exercise in being like present and really trying to be zen about it. Like, you know, the tiger does as the tiger does. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:02 And we cannot expect anything less. It's really freaking hard to do. Yeah. Like the first time your kids are going to punch you in the face and it happens really, really young. I got smacked up already right before recording. I got two piece by my son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:18 So, yeah, man, it's like feeling things and being in touch with your feelings. Important. Yes. Do that. Yeah, for sure. Being able to control yourself. Also, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, you guys are better at parenting. I I will be get like in my feelings, have my feelings hurt, but then I will immediately be like, all right, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:37 That was stupid. I will immediately let them know that I was a guy. Sorry. I love admitting that I'm wrong and they love me admitting when I'm wrong. That's good, though. You're like modeling for them regulation of your emotions. And I think that's really valuable. Right. Yeah. They're going to see it and they're going to feel it and they're going to feel it with you and then you're going to show them.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah. And they can own it back. Yeah. Exactly. What's what's something you think is underrated? I've been really wanting to scream about this for a long time. Journalism journalism is so underrated right now. It's driving me nuts. Everywhere I look, there's so many. People and influencers and drives me nuts, people just like shitting on the media.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And I get it like I get where it's coming from, because there's a lot of. Bad news out there, and there's a lot of bad news out there. And there's a lot of people doing a bad job at doing journalism. But at the same time, if you can hold that thought with another thought that I want to share with you, which is this is the only time in history where big outlets like the New York Times, like CNN, like BBC, all have people from the communities working on stories about those communities. It's literally never happened before. Right? When I got into journalism like 15 years ago,
Starting point is 00:25:52 I still felt like the only Arab in journalism. And that's sort of the reason why I wanted to get into that space in the first place. But now I'm like, president of an Arab Journalists Association. And there's so many of us. There's we're literally everywhere. We're doing shitty in all kinds of ways. It's plain. But like it's insane. And I love the fact that you can reliably, when you want to learn more about the the L.A. protests against ICE from like a couple of weeks ago, if you want to learn more
Starting point is 00:26:21 about it, you could literally go on the L.A. Times website and read an article written from an immigration reporter who's doing interviews in Spanish, who herself comes from a Spanish family and is on the ground talking to, you know, that kind of journalism is unheard of, like 20, 30 years ago. And I get the instinct to be like, nah, fuck the media. They're so racist. Oh, they're platforming all these things. They're responsible for Trump. We wouldn't have Trump if not for X, Y, Z. I get that. Sure. But we are still in possibly the great the golden age of journalism and people are missing it because all they want to do is talk about how bad
Starting point is 00:26:57 the how bad journalism is right now. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Journalism isn't like the police. You know what I mean? Like there are good actors, better journalists. You know, the police are like, eh, I don't know about that. Yeah, I think the really infuriating thing too is usually television news,
Starting point is 00:27:14 because that has such a huge, huge effect on people's perceptions. And in LA, they ran back some old ass footage again, like on NBC4, that was pretty just like very disingenuous, like old burning car footage and trying to connect that to what's happening now. And you're like, this is absolutely reckless. But I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I mean, like it's because so much of the good stuff that we're able to even talk about comes from journalists like you and other people who are actually, you know very dedicated to reporting on being objective and telling the truth rather than shying away from like, will my objectivity be seen as biased or politicized? And in my community, in the Muslim and Arab community, there was this like big streak of people being really angry at the news media for saying for quote unquote, manufacturing consent for the genocide of Palestine.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I get that at the same time, the only reason we know about what's happening as it's happening is because of the journalists in Palestine. Right. So when you're talking about like the media sucks, you got to be specific, you know, because there's so much happening in that space. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think I'm definitely guilty of just overall being like focusing on the negative when yeah, there are good reporters doing good work on the ground.
Starting point is 00:28:35 For sure. I forgive you. And that's why I- You've been forgiven by journalism. Hell yeah. All right. That's what I was looking to get out of that. Thank God. Just do a couple of hail Anderson's what I was looking to get out of that. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Just do a couple of hail Anderson Cooper's and you're good. Yeah, exactly. Is he one of the good ones? Anderson Cooper? No, he's not. He's not, but he is sort of like the merry figure in our community. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:33:02 your favorite shows. And we're back. And the world is still trying to grapple with Zora Mamdani's victory in the New York Democratic primary. I mean, mainly the Democrats seem to be at a crisis point, having been forced to confront an incredibly promising path forward. What are they supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? Have a focused campaign on things like the economic issues that hit everyone.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Care about and articulate a way to deliver on that as a politician. What the fuck is this guy trying to do? So far, as of this recording, the one high profile New York Democrat to see the bigger picture and get behind Zorin is Jerry Nadler. Jerry Nads. I was shocked. I did not, I didn't, I didn't think that was in Jerry Nabler's bag, but it is. Yeah, I was like, okay, way to read the room, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Schumer, Jeffries, crickets mixed with hand ringing over their very intentionally skewed view on his stance on civil rights, aka they don't like that he is pro-Palestinian. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, my goodness. So last week she fully lost it on the radio. Uh, when a caller named Gabe phoned into like a New York talk radio station to spread a bunch of misinformation to paint Zoran is like an antisemite. The call almost felt like it was scripted and that this person calls in, it says a bunch of lies to smear him.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And like, as like some kind of person held, like trying to be like, Zoran is going to destroy the Jewish community in New York and then the world. And then she just went on and yes, ended that shit. He, this was like a little bit of a portion of like his, he, this guy had a huge monologue he did before he actually, the Senator actually responded. He said, quote, how do we make sure that Jewish
Starting point is 00:35:02 institutions are protected from his plans to punish and fine our institutions, which fundraise the medical quote, How do we make sure that Jewish institutions are protected from his plans to punish and fine our institutions which fundraise the medical nonprofits which do work both here in the United States and in Israel and other countries in the world? And also, how can we hold Mr. Mamdani accountable for his glorifying association of Hamas and other terror, terror bombings of the Intifada in the 1990s, where over 1000 Jewish Israelis were killed to his revisionist Holocaust knowledge just went on just fired, rattled off a bunch of shit to the point that even before Gillibrand could chime in, the host was like, now, just to caveat
Starting point is 00:35:32 this senator, that was a lot of that was a lot. This man just said, and there potentially could be inaccurate because we cannot fact check that in real time. And she was like, OK, I don't care. She just went on. This is her response to that quote, the color is exactly the New York constituents that I've spoken to that are alarmed. They are alarmed by past public statements. They are alarmed by past positions, particularly references to global jihad. Oh, my sweet, sweet child.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I've heard that one before. Yeah, exactly. That's one of the most, you know most worn out attacks on him right now. The host, again, forced to clarify live on air, quote, on Mom Donnie, I just feel compelled to say, we can find no evidence that he has supported Hamas or supported violent jihad. Good on you.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So then he then asked Senator Gillibrand, can you? Rolling Stone reached out after that and was like, uh, yo, what's up with you? What's up with that answer on the radio? It feels like chock full of misinformation that you just, it felt like an APAC word salad, uh, that she responded to her office said that she misspoke and is looking to clarify things with Zoran Mamdani, which feels like politician talk for, look, this is what that APAC money does to your critical thinking skills. You know, reflexively being anti-Palestinian is just kind of part of the gig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It is kind of what we were expecting, but it's even sloppy for like what I was expecting from the demo. Yeah. Like it's a little like saying global jihad. I mean, again, let's clarify, right, because this is one of the most distorted quotes out there that they use to attack Zoran Mamdani, the famous globalized the Intifada attack, again, a ridiculous distortion on what he actually said and what he means. So this is from an interview. He said this is where this it
Starting point is 00:37:22 comes from this interview where he's asked, does that just make you uncomfortable like the phrase globalizing Intifada? And like the phrase So this is from an interview. He said, this is where it comes from this interview where he's asked, does that just make you uncomfortable? Like the phrase globalizing Intifada and like the phrase from the river to the sea, does that make you uncomfortable? Or do you think and Mumdani answers, okay, those are different. Those are super different. The interview says they're not really Mumdani says those are like different genres interviewer. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm asking so wrong. Then they're not really different to me and to some people they are not different. This is where Zoran really clears it up. So please get this tatted on your forehead if you need it cleared up for you. Quote, I know people for whom those things mean very different things. And to me, ultimately, what I hear in so many is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights and standing up for Palestinian human rights.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And I think what's difficult also is that the very word has been used by the Holocaust Museum when translating the Warsaw Ghetto uprising into Arabic because it's a word that means struggle. And as a Muslim man who grew up post 9-11, I'm all too familiar in the way in which Arabic words can be twisted, can be distorted, can be used to justify any kind of meaning. And I think that's where it leaves me with a sense that what we need to do is focus on keeping Jewish New Yorkers safe. And the question of the permissibility of language is something that I haven't ventured.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Boom. Boom. Boom. Wow. I'm scared. I'm scared for my friends in New York now. Yeah, right. He said, damn, he's advocating for human rights.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And again, he handled it like a probe. So he went on Meet the Press and Christian Welker also had to do sort of like the establishment Democrat sort of grill session, like going line by line. The first one was like, so this is what Welker said, Trump called you a communist. Are you a communist? I'm Donnie. I am not and I already have to get used to the fact that the president is going to talk about how I look, how I sound, where I'm from and who I am. I'm fighting for the very working people that he ran a campaign to empower, that he has since betrayed. I call myself a democratic socialist in many ways inspired by the words of dr. King from decades ago who said call it democracy or call it democratic socialism
Starting point is 00:39:29 There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country He's ready so communist that sounds I'm just gonna mark that down as communist. Okay. Yeah. So what that sounds like is communist down as communist. Okay. That's yeah. So what that sounds like is communist. Then she asked if billionaires deserve the guillotine. Oh wait, no, that's my writing. She asked if billionaires should be like if they're okay, should they exist? Another fantastic answer clearing it up because there's so much fear mongering of like, what does that mean? This is his answer. You're going to make them walk the ice like in The Dark Knight Rises.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist? I don't think that we should have billionaires, because frankly, it is so much money in a moment of such inequality. And ultimately, what we need more of is equality across our city and across our state and across our country. And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires, to make a city that is fairer for all of them. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Can't argue with that. And when he said work with, did he make a throat? No, no, not at all. OK, not at all. All right. I was just not at all. And you see, make sure. Fuck sure. Was he wasn't cracking his knuckling up when he said that? Yeah. I mean mean work with billionaires
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah, I mean I think anyone who saw that interview would really have a hard time convincing themselves that this guy was some kind of like Rabbit freak that wanted to destroy in New York scary. Yeah, it's just Everything I mean, obviously I have a different take because I agree with what he's saying but it come he comes off as someone who cares very deeply about his city and like, you know, but that unfortunately isn't gonna stop the like people like Kristen Welker and the People like Hakeem Jeffries who continues to be like he needs to actually clarify the globalized like
Starting point is 00:41:22 It's coming from, is him clarifying. Yeah, exactly. Like, there's no reading of that quote in context that hasn't already been clarified for you. What's amazing about it is that this has all been litigated already for the past 20 years. All of the time between now and 9-11 has been spent going over the same talking points over and over and over again. Like this word jihad, I feel like at this point people understand what it means.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They know that it's not specific to violence and there's like this concept in Islam of like the greater jihad being the inner jihad. So when you're going to therapy, you want to know what you call that in Arabic? Mmm, so it's a little bit of a G head, you know And this idea of like we also don't like therapy by the way on the Definitely not going to therapy I heard that guy said it was Did I just ruin therapy for everybody? Yeah, no, no, definitely not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:28 For everybody on the right. And they're not for like, for anyone who already wasn't going to try and sort out their own emotional trauma and why they acted out. Remember when like Obama was a candidate and they were like warning that he went to a madrasa, which
Starting point is 00:42:43 is just the Arabic word for madrasa. And everyone that happened, I was like, I go to a madrasa, which is just the Arabic word for madrasa. And when that happened, I was like, I go to a madrasa. This is just fucking normal. But it still took up like an entire news cycle. So it feels like they don't really have anything on Zohran other than the fact that he's a Muslim guy. But I think they're banking on that and they're hoping that at some point he's going to slip up and they could take whatever news clip
Starting point is 00:43:07 excerpt to back up their own their their predetermined claims about him being the scary bad guy who's gonna like exterminate a population in New York City for some reason and because it's worked right it's worked in the past I mean not that long ago. I remember Ilhan Omar I think we talked about on the show how Ilhan Omar out of context was like saying something about like this people say, some people did something when describing about how the, the aftermath of 9 11 touched the lives of every single Muslim and American beyond. And they, that had so much, so much power behind it.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And it had so many legs that it's still something that comes up Right this day when people on the right think about it and all my they remember that comment and they go Oh, yeah, she actually does she downplayed 9-eleven, right? So I think what they're trying to do here is they're just throwing shit at the wall They're just trying to see where he's gonna slip up. But the fact that he hasn't already, I think it tells us two things. One, he's been down this road before. Exactly. He grew up in this. Grew up on this road. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah. These people have just been like introduced to the darkness. This guy was born in. Born in it, baby. You merely play in it. I think. OK. And there he is. Amon is comparing him to Bane, who is the person who made the stockbrokers walk on the frozen river that they talked about on CNBC the day after his victory. The messages are there, read between the lines. He's going to be on the radio and he's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:44:34 well, fine, how about you try the grotesque bars on Varsity? I want you to have a free bus ride. Okay. Jesus. That's so sinister. They will be on time. No. Oh, they will be, they will be on time. No. The other storyline I'm seeing that is also, I feel like a little, I don't know that there's a lot of reporting that has turned this into the wind is the wind is about his talent and like it's, it has nothing to do with his position.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's like, he's a very talented politician and that's what happened. And he won in spite of his left-wing positions and in spite of his, like that's what, how the economist wrote it up. And they were like, but still like he's going to lead the democratic party deeper into the wilderness with these positions. Like, yeah, it was a nice win for him, but you know who else was happy the next day? Republicans and Republican, they're fucking chops over here, dude. They got themselves a new op they can go after.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I think in order to believe that you have to completely ignore the fact that when he started his campaign, he started in districts in New York City that went for Trump. Yes. So these were democratic strongholds. These are places where everybody voted Democrat. It wasn't even a question. But then the last election, something went terribly wrong and a lot of districts in New Jersey, in New York, in Pennsylvania that were traditionally democratic strongholds went for Trump, which should make everybody go crazy trying to find the solution. Zoran did something which is surprisingly peculiar in the political spaces, which he showed up and he started talking to people on asking them and looking for
Starting point is 00:46:17 the Trump supporters and asking them, hey, what about this policy? You care about affordability. Would you vote for somebody who believes in XYZ? And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll have my vote if you do this. And that's where his campaign starts. And I don't know, it just, it drives me nuts how the American politics in general, left and right, haven't yet figured out that they're there to serve a populace, not the other way around.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And we saw it in the last election with Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, where it felt like the Democratic agenda was we need to get people on board with Biden. We need to get them on board with Kamala Harris, where their entire electorate, poll after poll, was showing that they were losing people because they weren't talking to them and they weren't incorporating them and inviting them into the big tent. And we saw how that played out. So I'm really excited for somebody like Zoran because he seems to get how to fix the democratic institution. And yeah, it's just, I feel like they're going to come around. They're
Starting point is 00:47:20 still kind of freaked out because he was able to do it without them. And he was able to see the institutionalized, supported candidate in Cuomo, who even then they they call him a bully, like they didn't like him. But they backed him because he had the name. And so I feel like they they're going to come around. It's just it's going to take some time. This probably wouldn't be the case if he was just like a white guy from Staten Island, but, you know, he's he's a he's a brown guy and he's Muslim and he's not afraid of apologizing for it. And so I think it's going to take a little bit of time, but I think they'll come around.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I did have that thought. What would be happening right now if he was a white guy? They'd be just like finding something else about him or just like really going hard on his politics or something. I mean, you got to like see how they treated Bernie Sanders. Yeah, they love talking about Bernie Sanders. They love supporting him. They like putting him in front of the camera. The thing that they don't like about Bernie Sanders is him becoming president.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But you know, uh, or they'll just do the thing where like he's supported by a bunch of like terrorist sympathizers. It's probably what they do is like, they, you know, how they made like a pejorative Bernie bro kind of attacked like, and these are the fucking people that like this shit. I don't know. Is this for you? That's their base. Like, I think that's the part that they don't understand.
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's like, this is where the democratic voters are going. Yeah. And so you need to keep up with that. You need to be able to understand who your supporters are, what exactly your party wants, and then create the platform. Not the other way around. I think that's why this is so important that like it's the it's the generation of the Zoran type politicians that inherit this party if the party has any chance of surviving because if they keep
Starting point is 00:48:56 doing the thing of trying to just you know bludgeon a candidate like this to try and curb their ability to to achieve office because they're going against the establishment, it's just we're going to have the same thing over and over. But the one thing that's heartening is their attacks are so fucking tired that they're just like they come off as really ineffective. Like the thing was like, well, you know, he's Muslim. So you're like, yes, so what the fuck you're talking about credit to I've interviewed him a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, to his credit, he hasn't yet. Or I don't even think he will, because it doesn't even seem like it feels like it's maybe beneath him. But he hasn't even mentioned to the fact that like half of his staff is Jewish. Right. He's like, he's working with people who are Jewish. And you're out here saying that he wants to kill them. It doesn't make any sense. And I'm like sitting there wondering, like, all he has to maybe do is like say, hey, I'm actually part of my staff. Like, in order to reach out to me, you had to go through somebody
Starting point is 00:49:56 who was Jewish to talk to me. And I'm almost like... I kind of credit him for that because it's not relevant, right? It's just like, I'm not doing it because I'm like, you know, how like a Democrat. I mean, half of my staff are black people. One of my very good friends. Bad luck. You're right. You know what I mean? When you say you're like, well, OK, but again, I used to get lunch with a racist
Starting point is 00:50:21 and then I would get lunch with a black man. And he was in a he was in a duop a cappella barbershop. No, man, this is different than like corn pop. This is, we're not talking about corn pop. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying. But I'm saying, no, but I'm saying, I think the reason is because what he stands on is so much bigger, like it's almost impervious
Starting point is 00:50:38 to that kind of attack because it res, like what his message is resonates so deeply across the board with people. And it's not because he's done this thing like a polished candidate, he's like, okay, you need to have like people of color that are like visible on your staff. He's like, no, man, I'm here to deliver for people. And guess what? The other people that are with me, this is just, this is the crew that I have. It's diverse. It's broad. It represents so much of the city. So, you know, what can you know, Stephen Miller is Jewish too.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Like that's my issue with that whole like defense being like, how could we be support Nazism? How could this administration be anti-Semitic when the architect of all the xenophobic raids is a Jewish man? It just bothers the hell out of me that this is the line of all the xenophobic raids is a Jewish man. Yeah, it's just it just bothers the hell out of me that this is the line of attack. Yeah. No, for sure. It bothers the hell out of me and it's a trope.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It's an Islamic Islamophobic trope in and of itself. And I wish that we had grown out of it as a country. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the one thing you really realize, is they the u.s The u.s is just addicted to islamophobia like it cannot even when it makes no sense at all like I put decades past 911 and the The like the fucking horror that is unfolding the middle east because of us foreign policy
Starting point is 00:52:02 This still has this like reflex like well, we need someone that everyone can have like, they won't think critically and be like, oh, this brown person is Muslim. So therefore I don't have to think anything of like, I don't have to really interrogate this any further because the shorthand reflex is equals bad. But I think again, that's starting to erode. You know, it's just, it's not, this isn't like 2010.
Starting point is 00:52:26 But I know for some people it does work like that and people are susceptible to that kind of sort of rhetoric and propaganda, but there is something because he's, he's speaking to something so much deeper. It's, it's just irrelevant for so many people. It's gonna be interesting to see how far we've come as he goes against famous 9-11 authority mayor Eric Adams, who pointed out that the great thing about New York City,
Starting point is 00:52:55 one day you're opening a business, the next day, 9-11. And so you never know what's going to happen. And that's why we love this town. Yeah, it almost feels like this is a calculated way to try to drag him into the dirt. Because when you put it like that, it makes me feel like it's a trap. Like they want him to like have to constantly defend his record as a Muslim person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 But yeah, I've seen a little bit of it. And he's sort of like in this weird position where they're constantly asking him about like this global Jihad global and to father thing. But I, from the clips that I've seen, at least he's done a pretty decent job of saying, no, no, no, here's what, here's the policies that I care about. And he'll just like pivot into his, his policy. So yeah. And then the interviewer's position to be in minutes sucks. Of course it sucks.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I think being a person of color who's not towing the line of a party and really trying to deliver for people aka just rocking the fucking boat. They're fucking they're gonna come at you with everything, you know, every time. That's right. And that's just but again, I think like to your point, even as he you know, somebody who has grown up in post 911 America being a Muslim man in America, you have already, you already know how to navigate the stupidity that exists in American society, trying to make you look a certain way. And you have already spent decades of your life having to prove your humanity to people who don't give a fuck about you.
Starting point is 00:54:23 So I think he's that's why I think he's never looked shook when he has these interactions because he goes to the same way like black people, when white people want to be like, well, what about, you know, like, oh, what about the violence in your communities? People go, no, people who are used to hearing those attacks and go, OK, I know, I see how you look at the world and that's not actually how it is. OK, because what you're what we're not talking about is a larger picture about inequality and what that does to our communities. And that's what you're saying is a distraction and he's, he's seems
Starting point is 00:54:53 very polished, you know, as like an organizer and politician at this point that it's, it would, it would probably take something so inflammatory and offensive to try and get him to sort of wobble like that. But again, he seems very, he's very adept and he seems like he's built, he's built for this moment. Yeah. Yeah. Truly born in the darkness of Islam, the darkest moments of Islam. Oh, he's like, oh, y'all just fucking play with it.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe, maybe a Bane man. I don't know. Like was born in the darkness. And honestly, my only issue with his, uh, I think he's a little too nice to billionaires in that, in that statement. I think you should be like, and you know, we'll see how good they ice skate.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The cameras, you know, ice skates. Yeah. Yeah. See how they do on the, uh, icy rivers of the, you know, East River. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Maybe hit up Nancy Kerrigan for some lessons See how they do on the icy rivers of the, you know, East River. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Maybe hit up Nancy Kerrigan for some lessons, my boy. I mean, if he really wants to be popular. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. American history is full of wise people. Well women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down.
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Starting point is 01:00:23 M3 again. Yeah, I don't know. The three guns were off. They weren't feeling how much, how many monies did M3 can make? M3 can made 10 million as the domestic. The first one made 30 and was like a big surprise hit. I think it made 17 global. So not bad. Although to be fair, only cost $25 million to make.
Starting point is 01:00:42 So I'm sure it's going to get a nice approving headline from Deadline like they did, like the opposite of what they did for Sinners. Right. They were like, this might look like a hit to you. However. Just because it made more money than it costs to make by orders of magnitude does not mean this is a hit.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I don't know. Ryan Coogler, I don't know where Ryan Coogler gets off. It's like the tone of those articles. Yeah. An article about the biggest, most exciting box office success of the year. The thesis, where does this guy get off? Yeah. A big news for the hall of presidents.
Starting point is 01:01:20 That's a, usually like, that's where I rushed to. If I take my kids to Disney world, we're rushing right to the Hall of Presidents to the hall One day Exactly. Is it one of the is it one of the first things like is it set up like how Disneyland is like when you go Through the gates are kind of in that like Main Street Area so then you can go to the Hall of Presidents right or you have to seek. Oh, is it right there? I think you have to I've out. I don't know. I've never been to a fiancestor.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I would never go in anyway. Couldn't possibly. And I think we walked past it and it was like fucking, I don't know if maybe this was when it was closed for, but it like tumbleweeds. I was like, oh, they have tumbleweeds for the old West town. They're like, no, that's a naturally occurring tumbleweed. Those are real tumbleweeds. It was not a popular attraction.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Uh, but that's just because they had the old Trump that looked like real legitimately looked like they had made the Hillary Clinton animatronic and then had to like last second be like, fuck somebody get a blow dryer so we can melt the face a little bit and turn it into a Trump face and get that comb over wig stat just look like it's Hillary Clinton if she had like on a latex mask trying to pose as Donald Trump for like a You know, it's like Hillary Clinton doing Frank Havoc from I think you should It's like Hillary Clinton doing Frank Havoc from, I think you should leave. You're saying I got too much shit on my mind. Clinton Havoc energy.
Starting point is 01:02:50 But yeah, now, so they've replaced that with a more accurate Donald Trump, just like more jolly essentially is what they did. Just gave more droopy, more droopier jowls and same exact outfit and kind of smell. I hear. Yeah. Let me smell a vision. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. Fresh diapers and summer New York diaper. I feel like there's no way he doesn't smell like hot dogs, right? Like just say, no, people say he stinks. They say he smells bad. Like not cooked hot dogs. You know, he smells like wet ones. Smells like boo boo.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Oh, really? Yeah. It smells like he smells like the boo. Oh, really? Yeah. He's the only thing. It was like this entire expose by his producer on The Apprentice. And they went into depth. Yeah. With some of that stuff. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't in the room. I can either conform nor deny.
Starting point is 01:03:39 All I know is that some people are saying he has the hugest, biggest, most beautiful poops. And you're saying many are saying can't control the bowel movements. And Adam Kinzinger also said it in the run up to the election. I remember, like on Kimmel, he was like, dude, this guy, he said he was pungent. Yeah, pungent. Yeah. Anyways, those are the big updates. Kind of makes you feel bad for him a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah, really. I feel so bad for him actually. That's what it's kind of what keeps me up at night. That's kind of the whole point of this show is we want to just generate as much sympathy for Donald Trump as possible. It's a CIA op. It's a seemingly left leaning thing
Starting point is 01:04:16 that we just secretly seed people with sympathy for Donald Trump and how difficult it must be. It's wild. All the pictures of him have in the background, the bad guy from the painting and ghost busters too. Vigo? Yeah, it looks like Vigo. Vigo the Carpathian. Yeah. Like who?
Starting point is 01:04:37 What president looked like that clearly is before fucking cameras. This guy was mean as hell. Oh no. You got to be if you want to be president back then. That's true. You just have to be an evil warlock, mostly the number one. That's why I don't buy that whole honest ape thing. I mean, that guy who's president of the United States, that guy was a thug, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:59 He's like, he's like, yeah, do your thing, Sherman. Go fuck up Georgia for me, boy. There's another show we're working on that we got some research in on like Abe Lincoln. And like one of the anecdotes was him just like ripping on this guy who worked for him, like for being Irish. Like he like got... I knew it! I knew it!
Starting point is 01:05:23 He like got him to eat... He got him to to eat a piece of fruit that wasn't edible. He was like, yeah, have you ever heard of a fig? Yeah, I mean, you should try it. This tree has the best figs. It was not a fig tree. And then the guy was spitting it out. And Lincoln's in the back just laughing his ass off. He's like, ha ha, Irish. Dumb Irish. And like Lincoln's in the back just laughing as I Irish
Starting point is 01:05:48 Anyways amen truly a pleasure having you on this podcast as always Where can people find you follow you? Find out more about your book all that good stuff You could follow me on Instagram at amen calm spelled D O T C O M A Y M A N N D O T C O M. Also, you can find me on a minute dot com a Y M A N N dot com. Oh, you can go to any of your favorite bookstores and pick one of these guys up. I'm holding up the book.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Beautiful blue. You got to find the beautiful blue and beautiful blue book. While we're on the subject of leg, Zoran and stuff, I feel like you should really want to understand the psyche of somebody who's going to grow up post 9-11 and then become confident enough to be on Meet the Press and run for mayor. You should start by reading this book, which is about my life, doing the same things except not all of the things, but some same things.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah. Go check it out, everybody. Thanks, man. Is there work immediate that you've been enjoying? I've really been enjoying that show, Adults on Effects. Oh, shit. Have you seen it yet? I've not seen it. It's like really silly, funny.
Starting point is 01:06:57 It almost feels like a sitcom. It's the kind of show you can watch with somebody and then like do references from afterwards. It feel good. It's cute Yeah, yeah, that's the sort of thing that I want to do after a hard day's work of Looking up MTG tweets on on the internet. Yeah. All right. I've seen the billboards I have not seen the show and this is the first recommendation I got so just Ten more recommendations to go and I'll check an episode.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, one day. Actually, yours counts for like five. So just I need a few more. Yeah, and I wonder if like, I like it a little bit more because I can't do any of the things that they're doing, like going out and having a social life. Right. You know, the things that you lose when you become a parent. So I don't know, maybe I'm living vicariously through them, but it's silly.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It's fun. There's this scene where they're trying to like sell a gun, but they can't. It's super cute. It's a cute show. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me everywhere at miles of gray.
Starting point is 01:08:00 You probably missed the last episode ever of Miles and Jack got mad. Most these I won't be saying it anymore. Yeah. Like you want to check it out. It's over, but you know what? It is what it is. We will come back in some other iteration. I mean, it's not like we're any, we've gone anywhere.
Starting point is 01:08:14 There's this show. You, you guys just not here. Let's talk about basketball as much. They're also find me talking about 90 day fiance on four 20 day fiance, a couple of works of the social media I like first one at sundadivine.biscay.social says I love the energy of mom Donnie but I hope he doesn't try to socialize brunch. Yeah no that's just don't cross that line don't cross that don't don't touch that third rail. This is like an onion headline from a few weeks ago that I don't think I talked about, but I just loved. It's like a woman with lovingly nestling, nestling, like nuzzling with a predator drone.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And it says, grieving war widow finds comfort in the wings of drone that served with husband. Oh my God. Fucking the onion. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, blue sky, Jack OB, the number one. Yeah. I like to tweet from Bonanza parentheses, Miffy tweeted, uh, do you want to touch knees later while we're sitting down and pretend to ignore the fact that we're touching knees? Is that riding a train?
Starting point is 01:09:23 That's riding a train. That's sitting at a cafe that doesn't have enough room. Yeah, that's just trying to like cram in one too many seats. They don't they don't ever account for knees. No. Yeah. And my wobbly ass weird knee etiquette.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I got that knee etiquette. What is that? You just jab your legs for like what's up? My knees have a mind other people's knee. Yeah, you see me check homie. What's up? Do you think you hard? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my patella You can find us on Twitter and blue Sky, at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And you can find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Starting point is 01:10:15 We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah. If you like Toro y Moi, Chaz from that band also, you know, puts out some nice electronic dance music too. And this is a track I wanted to go out because I was listening to this and I didn't realize who this artist Les Sins was and it's Chaz from Toro y Moi. So L-E-S-S-I-N-S. The track is called Grind and it's just again, it's summer. The track is called Grind and it's just again, it's summer. Look, my dad sent me this quote from like a Guardian article about like
Starting point is 01:10:54 like to live as young said with two existing opposite thoughts at the same time and survival right now depending on our ability to swim in this duality. So I use music to keep my joy up, to keep my joy activated. And so I like music like this. It kind of gives me a little, you know, honey in my hips makes my big toe shoot up in my boot. So this is grind by Liz scenes. Hell yeah. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio from our podcast from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, but we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Kathryn Law.
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