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Oh, hello, the internet, and welcome to season 224, episode 5 of the Daily Psych Guys. It's a production of iHeartRadio. Yes, it's the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared unconsciousness. It's fucking Friday. Thank goodness. February February 18th, 2022 My name is Miles Gray A.K.A. Christina, Christina I would love to play Scattergories Or I could give you a foot rub I'm living my life just like an entourage Okay, shout out to Christy I'm a Gucci Mane, Apple Waffle House

Because, yes, I was talking about my time In Christina Aguilera's Entourage, filled with categories and foot rubs. And, you know, I was maybe living my best life then, or maybe my worst life. I don't know. TBD. I am thrilled to be joined at the helm with one of the most brilliant writers. Okay. Someone who has one of the highest degrees in the land when it comes to writing. Their movie takes infallible. Whatever they say is fucking law when it comes to film. That's just my take. That's just my take. You're not wrong.

This person is one of the first. Actually, I'm going to just say one of basically the original Paddington evangelists. And I think that's really important for all the Paddington hype that there, I can almost draw direct lines straight to this person's brain. They're a hilarious comedian as well. But, and you know, they also host the Bechdel cast. I don't even have to say more. Please welcome the anagrammed nine-tip Dracula,

a.k.a. Caitlin Durante. Hello. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. And I don't, unfortunately, have a new anagram today because I've been too busy. One, playing Wordle. All of my word skills are going to Wordle. And I've also been too busy playing Pokemon for Arceus. Everyone is going to just... No, they're going to say, we feel you on that. Because the second you said it, everyone was like, oh yeah, I know somebody who lost their life to that game.

So, it seems like... But I also... Well, I was hesitating because I don't know if that's how you pronounce it. Because I'm a fake fan. As a Japanese person, the fact that people are saying Pokemon, I already you know i can already scorch the earth with my uh anger about that so sure they don't have room to check anybody's pronunciation but yes uh you good caitlin what's new i'm good yeah just the whole just the playing video games and uh ruining my life with them instead of you know doing work or showering and um that's about

that's me in a nutshell right now i mean to be really candid do you have like look i'm i've i've i go through at like valleys and peaks of uh bathing depending on my emotional state do you have like a moment we go nope all right we've crossed the line this time it's like my hair is so oily that it feels like it's made of wires and i can put into different shapes what What do you? That's me right now. I did shower yesterday, but I was like, do I need to wash my hair? I can go a few more days.

Yeah. Oh, man. I'd love to know about having natural hair oils, but my scalp is pretty exposed to male pattern baldness. Okay. Let's move on to welcome today's guest. This is somebody who, you know, as a very talented writer, comedian, you may have seen her on a TV show called Conan. Ever heard of it?

I have. Maybe you're in the L.A. area and you've heard of the longest running all female and female identifying stand up comedy show at the Hollywood Improv, The Mermaid Comedy Hour, because she hosts and produces that. Also, you may have heard of her number one debut comedy album, Beach Tridash. I'm sorry to put a little bit of slang on that. I'm sorry, Beach Trash. I'll call it by its Christian name. And also, I just love to say, I just love this part of her bio. When she's not singing jokes, you can find her pumping quarters into the jurassic park pinball table while quoting dennis nedry we got dots in here see nobody cares please welcome today's guest valerie tozin hey what's going on thank you for getting that reference because some people uh don't and it makes me very upset oh really well

i think in the in the pinball game it's always always, uh-uh-uh. You didn't say that. I think that's the one that goes through. Look, I love that pinball. It's so good. It's such a good table. It's fantastic. I used to play it a lot at my local 7-Eleven when that was basically the arcade in North Hollywood. But yeah, Valerie, welcome. Thanks. Where are you coming to us from?

I'm in LA. Okay. Yeah. That would make sense. You do a show, a longest running show at the Hollywood Improv. So that that would put you squarely in this area. Yeah. Yeah. You playing any video games, anything ruining your life, anything taking your attention recently? I mean, I showed my family Wordle when I was home and I also found the Wordle archives. So there's I'm lost. There's no hope for me. I'm only taking a break to do

this podcast and then I'm back into the void. Right back to work. When you said you went home, where's home? Well, well, so my parents, home's Boston, but my folks moved to Florida in the middle of the pandemic because perfect timing. Let's go where it's the worst. And so they're, they're there now. And, uh, and I was there seeing them. Yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, Valerie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better, as will our listeners. But first, let's give a little preview about what we're going to talk about today.

Spoiler alert, apparently working at Tesla is a racist hellscape for black workers. We'll look into a really eye-opening lawsuit that is being filed against the electric car manufacturer, as well as talking about, you know, speaking of tech weirdness, if you worked at Facebook, you know, there's always like names for people who work at companies at Google's or like Googlers or something. And if you're at Facebook, used to be a Facebooker. Well, now that they're meta, Mark Zuckerberg has a new name that they will go by to completely try and escape their former reputation. They're now meta mates. And we'll talk about what that entails, because apparently it's like they've got a new attitude. And we'll see how that new attitude is shaking up in some Instagram censorship. Very weird stuff happening there.

But look, you know, billionaires got to watch billionaires backs. Then we'll talk about the Olympics. Look, I knew that we all know that the Olympics are like super wasteful. I didn't realize how much they were doing to make Beijing a place for the Winter Olympics. So we'll talk about the efforts that they are going through to make snow appear in a place that barely gets snow. And we'll obviously have to touch on just a hot debate that's been on the show uh just talking about like people have talked about breakfast for dinner dinner for breakfast as a concept but people say you know breakfast kind of edges out because it has a dessert component built in via pancakes french toast waffles we'll have to settle the debate

in the pancakes first waffles debate. And we'll do that live here. So stay tuned for that. But first, before we do any of that, Valerie, what is something from your search history that, you know, reveals a little bit about who you are, where you are, what you are? Oh, God. Well, when I was home, or I should say visiting my folks, it's weird to call it home or whatever. But when I was in Florida or I should say visiting my folks, it's weird to call it home or whatever. But when I was in Florida, I was staying with my parents. And one of the last things that I Googled was if the 2001 Odyssey strip club is 24 hours or not. Because I told my dad that it's a giant spaceship.

And he's like, well, I want to go. And I was like like please don't make me take my father to a strip club i would sooner die so that is the most recent thing i googled what wait hold on what uh kaylin dronte i mean as a film buff i'm sure you're you said what a lot of questions 2001 space odyssey strip club it's a 2001 Odyssey Strip Club, yes. And it is a, yeah. Okay, let's not, we don't want to cease and desist for them. But yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like a, it's a spaceship strip club.

JB Ball actually told me about it because he's from Tampa and that's where it is. And yeah, yeah. So, wait, is it? So it's not called 2001 A Space Odyssey. It's just 2001 Odyssey. But it sounds influenced by the Kubrick film? Yep. Okay, it is.

Okay. And then in what ways does that manifest visually and physically throughout the club? Do you know? know well you see a different kind of big red eye on stage oh absolute monster uh i'm sorry i had to also a different uh just like upright phallus right it's literally the strip club is literally in the space it is a spaceship like that's literally what it is that's the only reason why i am intrigued because yeah i am an x-files nerd and i was like yeah no i'm gonna go up there and immediately just go ask about molder's sister like i can't wait you cowards she worked yeah she got abducted by the strip club and that's where she's been that's

you know yeah i can't help it oh wait mean Cinnamon? She's about to go on right now. She's right here. Wait, so when you say, so the exterior, I'm so sorry, because I love sci-fi. So in my mind, I'm like, are they nerdy strip club owners? And they're like, when you come in, the doors, like the interior feels spaceship. Or you go inside and it's the same sort of like stinks of spilled beer and everything's painted black. We ended up not going. Okay. Honestly, thank God.

And I think it's, I still think it's just like a weird, gross strip club. Like, I don't think it's, I don't think, I think other than the allure of it being a kitschy name and a kitschy shape, I don't think there's any other crossover than that. Got it. Their website. Wow. It's really something else. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah oh yeah yeah yeah there should be more themed strip clubs though i would go all the time oh yeah there was like whatever a star wars a jurassic park uh i am are you kidding me get like i i want to watch a somebody in dennis nedry cosplay yeah or like a barbasol shaving cream like oh hell yeah like where they're hiding the embryos you know they're like oh no the embryos are in there and we got dots in here what would they call that place deus sex machina i know we talked about deus rex machina about the t-rex coming out of course there's let me think on it jurassic's park i guess is what you call that okay yeah oh they could call it isla nudar oh yes yes deep cut there we go people somewhat familiar with the lore

yeah i would go i honestly i feel like i'd go to any strip club if it was themed just because the effort feels like you know it earns some right like unless it's like wild west or like some antebellum shit like no i'm good right or even just make it a pop-up strip club where you can change the theme all the time you know that'd be awesome oh my gosh wait spared no sex spence oh my god are they heavy then they're expensive put them back um those night vision goggles you can even just picture it too because you know that like jeff goldblum like that sexy image of him laying back with his shirt open that's everywhere like that that's that's the fly yeah are you kidding me oh my god oh yeah well i'm jeff goldblum and welcome to chaos theory chaos theories yeah oh my goodness uh i so yeah look tampa i know we got tampa zeitgang out there if you know about 2001 odyssey please hit us up i i know some of y'all have stories about that place

and you know i'm sure they're not all great. But we love a themed anything. Would you go to a Paddington themed strip club, Caitlin? Does that feel like too perverse? I knew that question was coming. And I already have an answer prepared. Okay. Paddington is an ace icon.

He's asexual. And I don't think we need to be bringing titillation like they're two separate things you know padding and he's so pure and it's you know yeah but he's already in a trench coat it's it just literally it's so easy um it's a duffel coat but yeah be careful be careful excuse me i'm so sorry i didn't mean to oh no, no. Oh, no. Okay. Well, this has been fun. I'll see you guys later. No, I mean, I don't know. I do go back and forth on this, but I think that because Paddington is ace, and that's not really canon.

That's my head canon. But I want to separate Paddington and sex for that reason. Okay. What about like Hogwarts? Is that fair game? That already sounds like a typical club are you that has to be one right yeah hogwarts you're like yeah it's uh yeah what are you gonna get here hogwarts it's mostly for people into dermatological phenomenons but like oh like a lord of the rings strip club there There's a lot of stuff there, I'm sure. And Gandalf is like the bouncer. Oh, yeah.

You know, you shall not pass. Like, because you have a fake ID. Oh, yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I see what you're doing. Look, hit us up for free strip club ideas.

That will get you sued immediately. Valerie, now that we know what you're searching, let us know something you think is overrated. I just realized that there's a connection to these two things, but it was completely accidental. Honestly, eggplant. Get the fuck out of here with that. Wow. I can't. The texture of it, so gross.

Let Zucchini and Summer Squash do the heavy lifting. They've got it under control. Get out of here with this. It's so gross. You don't like how it kind of gets a little gooey, mushy? Oh, so nasty. It's like the weirdest texture. And it's like, there's no, it's like worse than a mushroom

because at least a mushroom like really picks up the flavor of whatever you're cooking it in, where eggplant is just this like weird, like it's like wet but dry. I don't know. It's so weird. I'm curious, what was last time, the last

preparation of eggplant that you had that you enjoyed or just experienced? I got, I ate it accidentally the other day when I ordered some tempura veggies and they slipped some eggplant in there. And I was like, absolutely not on my watch. You don't want to, I feel like something that's like, you know, if it's cooked down, like, like a baba ganoush, most people don't realize you're just eating straight up eggplant. It's so garlicky. Eggplant tapenade, I will throw myself over a bridge. I can't do it. It's the texture.

Caitlin, what do you think? I would have to agree. Wow. It is called aubergine, isn't it? Yeah. I never buy it. I never order it anywhere. Every so often I'll be somewhere where there's like a buffet situation and maybe there's like eggplant Parmesan.

And I'm like, let me see if I like this yet. The answer is always no. You know what, though? Zucchini parm is really good. I've made like lasagna and stuff with zucchini and it's awesome. But eggplant is absolutely. I guess because, yeah, zucchini holds its shape more. So in that sense, it's it has.

Yeah, I get it. If you don't like the mushy stuff. I love mushy, gooey, slimy. Like I love okra, you know. I like okra. OK. Yeah. Interesting.

Trying to find. We're really trying to zero in on where they've gone wrong with the aubergine. Because in Japan, we eat it a lot with like, it'll be roasted with miso on it. And so the flavor is super good. And you don't get like, there's nothing worse than like an unripe eggplant that's like cooked. And you're just like, what the f- I get that. It's an odd experience.

But to each their own. And finally, Valerie, what is something that you think is underrated? Well, we kind of talked about it, but pinball. I feel like people don't have respect for the game. And I'm here to, you know, just say, let's see how good you are at pinball. I'm on pinball league because I'm a dork. Oh, really? Cool. Yeah. It's so fun. It's really, really fun. But yeah, I think. And it has like a badass history, too. Like it was illegal for 30 years in this country.

A lot of people don't know that. I just learned about that because I watched Licorice Pizza. Yep. Which I will keep my opinions to myself, but I did absolutely deeply hate it. But anyway. But I did learn something from that movie. Yep. You know why it was bad?

Because they didn't have the real legends of the valley, Miles Gray, in that film. That's true. They put the wrong people in it. I know. I should have been. I should have been Licorice Pizza. You are Mr. Licorice Pizza. That sounds like a great strip club name for Odyssey.

Yeah, or stripper name, I should say. And here we have it. Next up is Licorice Pizza. Oh. Wait, I should say. Licorice pizza? And here we have it. Next up is licorice pizza. Oh. Wait, so pinball. Wait, it was illegal for 30 years? I had no idea. Yeah.

Why was it illegal? They thought it was gambling or some shit? Yes, because kids were spending a lot of money on it and they were branding it as gambling because it was looked at as a game of chance versus a game of skill. And so once they kind of essentially rebranded it and changed things to it that's when they brought it back in the 70s and and it was still always manufactured here like chicago was the biggest hub for where all the pinball manufacturers are and they were just sending them overseas but is that like midway again there's like midway

bally stern gotley you know like all those and yeah, so it was illegal for over 30 years, which is super. Like LaGuardia was like literally burning them. That's how crazy it was. Yeah. Yeah. Fiorillo, please. Calm down. You burned down our pinball machines?

Which is so funny because I remember one of the first pinball machines I remember was playing a Doctor Who one. And I didn't know what Doctor Who was. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Why is there a phone booth as part of this game? It makes no sense. And then someone, I remember an adult, was like, it's a TARDIS. And I was like, okay, I'm nine, and I'm waiting for the Jurassic Park machine to get here. Which I think is one of my favorite machines to play.

It's really fun. Because there's the one from the 90s from when the original movie came out and there's also one for the lost world too that's like the second movie and that one they had it there was a place in um the valley that had it for a while but i think it went out of business from covid but it was fun there's like a big egg in it it's really weird yeah oh that's right and like the little dinosaur is trying to come out, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Valerie, have you been to, it's either in Highland Park or Eagle Rock.

It's just like a bar that has like several dozen pinball. It's like a pinball machine bar. There's a few because I think there's one in Highland Park that I think we drove by. I think it was called, was it Barcade? There's a new place that's over there. I think there's one in Highland Park that I think we drove by that was called, I think it was called, was it Barcade? There's a new place that's over there. Yeah, I think there's a little Barcade. There's also a really, I'll give them a plug because it's a new business that's awesome.

There's a new comic book like kind of nerd store called Revenge Of that's in Highland Park and they have a separate room that is designed. I can't remember if it's the interior of like one of the Star Wars ships or from Alien, but they have a bunch of pinball tables back there and it's and they're all brand new tables and like they're they play so well and it yeah it's it's super rad so check them out if you're in highland park they're awesome nice so when you play in a league is it just like every like each week or something

each match day will be like one table that everybody has to compare their scores or how does it work i don't know how i don't know if every league is the same but the one that i'm on the way they do it is there's different divisions there's like because when you first when you meet up for the first day because it's it's like an eight-week season and then the finals they do it where everybody plays and they track the scores and then they look at all the scores after that first meetup and then they place everybody into divisions so like a b c and d and then so you're competing against people in your own division so you're kind of matched up skill level wise and then the way that it works is you play i forget how many tables a night i want to say it's probably like either six or eight

and you get matched up with like two to three other people and you play one table and you take turns and you just do like keep going and then you move on to the other table and you keep track of all the points and there's like different ways that they rank and stuff like that it's it's actually a lot more complicated and i have a lot of respect for the guys that run it because i'm like i can't even imagine trying to handle all this okay as someone who plays competitively or you're getting into it i i like to always play for fun. I don't really have any rhyme or reason to how I play. Is there, do you have a tip for people, like something you never considered when playing pinball that you actually need to, you know, to actually kind of think

about these are the little things you have to do to kind of end up getting to those higher levels? Yeah. I think like a lot of people, they don't really know. They don't quite understand how to play it. They don't realize how much like kind of I guess like math and like physics is involved and like things like that where they'll just go up and they'll kind of just start batting stuff around. anything listed on the table that tells you what like the skill shot or the secret skill shot or any of that stuff is on there. And also like can treat your flippers as completely separate because they are a lot of people will play them both at the same time. And that's how you end up losing the ball a lot. And so there's like other things that you can see too, when the ball drops, you can kind of see where it hits because if you hold one of the flippers up as the ball drops, it'll immediately bounce it over to the other flipper if that's where you need to use it to hit it on something on the other side. So there's like little tricks like that.

And there's tons of stuff on YouTube, too, that you can check out. And once you start to really get into it, it's so fun. Right. Oof. These are skills I need to consider. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm definitely just like mashing both. And then it goes always between the two flippers.

I'm like, fuck! Yeah. I know. And like once I realized, because I didn't realize I was doing that for a long time. And then I was like, oh, you idiot. And then like it completely changes the way you play and how much better you get. And playing competitively is like a different environment too. Because when you're playing for fun,

you're going through like all your turns at once. But then when you're doing it competitively, it's like you play one ball, then you have to wait like while three other people play theirs and then come back and it's loud and it's like, you know, cramped. And it's just a different style you have to get used to. Yeah. Oh, shit.

Okay. Pinball pros, also holler at me if you are tampa if you're in tampa bay you know about 2001 odyssey hit us up if you're a professional pinball player you have some sick tips hit us up okay let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about racism at tesla i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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from some of his black employees in a Fremont, California factory claiming that, you know, the workplace is a racist hellscape. You'd be surprised. You're like, oh, wow, really? The guy who the boy with emeralds in his pocket from apartheid South Africa letting race anti-black racism cook in his facilities? I don't know. I mean, obviously, he doesn't run HR, but it's his company. So you're going to have to understand. We'll have to look into that a little bit more.

So this lawsuit has been following. It's like comes after a three year investigation into Tesla. And it alleges that black and African-American employees at the company's Fremont plant are, quote, segregated to the lowest levels. Meaning in some places, black employees are meant to scrub the floors on their hands and knees where employees who are not black did not have to do that kind of labor, also being subjected to some of like the hardest physical labor within the plant. Quote, this is from an NPR article that goes on to say, quote, the lawsuit describes multiple instances of racist language and drawings toward black employees, penalizing black employees more harshly than white employees

and denying black employees career advancement opportunities and equal pay for work similar to that of other employees. When they say racist language and drawings, we're talking about graffiti that was like fucking all over the place, according to this lawsuit, like everywhere, the bathroom stalls, workbenches, lunch tables with things like KKK, hang men's nooses, go back to Africa, using the N word in all kinds of ways that you can imagine. And this is on top of, like they said, of being such a segregated environment that some of these racist co-workers had given nicknames to the parts of the factory where most of the black employees were working every day. They would refer to some parts of the factory as, quote, the slave ship or the plantation. In addition to other slurs, one black worker, quote, heard these racial slurs as

often as 50 to 100 times a day. It's a very, very fucked up story. And sadly, this isn't the first time this shit has happened because another former employee was just awarded by a judge almost $140 million for the racism that they had to endure at Tesla. And like in their defense, Tesla just posted to their blog with this rebuttal that essentially said it like we've been investigated like 50 times for racial discrimination. And not once did they find us to be acting in violation of the law. And it's like, I'm sorry, 50 times. That's so insane.

It's like, it's like when my parents, like I was sneaking out of the house all the time as a kid, but I never got caught. It doesn't mean I wasn't sneaking out of the house. It just means I wasn't getting caught. Right. Insane a very yeah I mean that like that I don't think I guess they think that's a good defense although like even like the the like labor board was sort of like the a lot of even their internal like investigations aren't compliant with like the actual law so you

know it's like most organizations that investigate themselves where they're sort of like yeah let me look okay yep clears yeah yeah no lies yeah 100 it's uh yeah so the this uh elon musk nonsense continues and then uh not to mention that this week too he was like he's like shit posting like Hitler memes talking about Trudeau because of like, you know, them trying to hold up crypto payments to the racist convoy. And it was like it was like a meme of Hitler that said like, hey, don't compare me to him. I had a budget. And it's like, what are you? God, the like.

Gremlin. I know. Even He's such a gremlin. I hate it. I know. Even gremlin's a bad name. Yeah. Yeah. Leave, come on,

leave Gizmo alone. Leave Gizmo out of this. You're right. I, yeah, it's like, even the moment I ever heard his name, like the last,

his name literally sounds like a Batman villain. Like he doesn't, you know what I mean? It's like this, no good can come from somebody named Elon Musk. Are you kidding me? Yeah. The name is too, too many hard consonant sounds.

And that feels like, like a, it sounds like a swear word already. Yeah. Right. But yeah, I mean, I think it's just funny because he's, as he, you know, goes more and more like openly or like right wing, like what his like fans are going to be like, are they also going to be like, yeah, man, fucking the Holocaust didn't happen. But like, we got to have electric cars. We really need to think about it.

Like, is that the weird byproduct of Elon Musk? Like, I don't know. Right. It's such a conundrum to me because it's like, I, we need like that type of technology, or some alternative to burning fossil fuels and all that kind of stuff. So I'm like, yeah, electric cars sounds good to me, but one of the biggest manufacturers of them is a like just a piss pot. Piss pot. A chamber pot of a human. I would say.

Yeah. As we would say back in Victorian England. It also always boggles my mind when people have the they consider these types of people. They're like heroes and will go to battle for them no matter what. heroes and will go to battle for them no matter what i'm like what this do you think if you were in a real world scenario where you met this person that they would even give any type of shit about you it's like so wild to me that they put them on a pedestal when i'm like they would literally step on your neck if they had a chance like it's crazy i mean it's if they people have you know everyone has these odd parasocial relationships and the ones with like

billionaires are like really confounding to me because they're actually the root cause of all the chaos and instability that you're feeling down on the other end of the socioeconomic ladder. Right. So your anger that you're actually using to defend Elon Musk, it's completely misdirected and i get for a lot of people he's like he feels like this fucking like fantasy story of like a guy who likes science who like is now like this you know like shitty version of uh what's the dude from uh iron man you know i mean oh stark yeah he's like tony stark he's like the new like you, his own hair plugged version of Tony Stark. And in that sense, you know, like no shade. I remember the old photos of you when PayPal came out in 2000. Very different hairline. But that's the glow up that we can experience with billions of dollars. So right. One day, one day. That's why I defend him for my right. Honestly, I'm starting to see a correlation between people becoming worse humans when they get hair plugs. It's like it's like infecting their brain.

Right. I mean, OK, so Jeremy Piven. Mm hmm. You know that the plugs the plugs took him to an interesting path, although he's been pretty quiet. I feel. Who else? I do think that. Well, Antonio Banderas. See, that's people don't know about his plugs.

Wait, I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know. You know what I mean? Hang on a second. Well, you need a lot if you're going to be a cat. Sorry, stupid reference. Deep cut of Puss in Boots. Anybody know?

All right. I got you. What about Billy Zane? I mean, he's just, he's the best. Is he? Oh, yeah. How do his plugs look? They look good?

Well, I don't even know if he's using them anymore. Maybe he got unplugged. Can you take them out? Or maybe you never had them. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about Billy Zane and plugs. Is Travolta wearing toupees or plugs? I think he's wearing a whole new face.

Like, it's kind of face-off. Speaking of, Nicolas Cage, I feel like, has plugs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's tried. He was kind of like, back in those 90s films, when his hair looked different every film. And, like, nobody really just asked about it. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He looks great. He looks great. You're like, come on now. Did they have the same hair and makeup person on this other film? Maybe not. But yeah, shout out to Billy Zane. Because you say Billy Zane is a cool guy still.

I mean, I don't know him personally, but based on his performance in Titanic. And yes, he is the villain but right isn't the iceberg actually the villain i would say that billy zane seems cool is my point yeah someone said that he had some kind of disorder that made him bald and i'm just reading a reddit thread so don't believe anything I'm reading right now. And then someone said, no, in an interview,

he said it was just male pattern baldness started when he was 25. Okay. Okay, cool. Thank you. Reddit. Thank you. Aggressive Reddit user.

Yeah. For defending Billy Zane's lack of hair and the root causes of it. But yeah, shout out to, uh, for the people who got plugs and went positive with it. We need you. Yeah, we need you more than ever.

Speaking of tech weirdness, let's talk about Facebook really quick. So Facebook obviously became such a toxic brand as more and more people realize it's just meetup.com for bigots and anti-vaxxers. But not to mention the fact that every person that leaves there has horror stories about how like the company knows how bad shit is and their hand in it and they still don't care because it's all about growth baby it's all about growth well in october they rebranded not they fucking mark zuckerberg okay realize like fuck man facebook makes people the word facebook makes people skin crawl so let's try to do something different how about meta but i think most young people have rejected that attempt at like a brand wardrobe change and i will i will always call it facebook i do not recognize meta because i'm not gonna let them do that but they also wanted to know, pivot to the metaverse. And again, not many people cared.

But like I said, what does it mean for the people that have to work for Mark Zuckerberg? What do they call themselves now? Most importantly, what is their name? They're MetaMates, folks. Okay, so. Okay, that sounds like a knockoff brand of Dunkaroos. Like, it's so stupid. It's so dumb.

Because it's the fucking kangaroo. Yeah, Metamites. Yeah, kids. Get your Dunkin' Cookies with Metamites. Yeah, with Chocard. Chocard the odd vac. Like, what the fuck? Yeah with Metamates. Near with Truckard. Truckard the Oddvark. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, Metamates.

I will never forget that off-brand dunker. You know, there are old values used to be things like be bold, focus on impact. Now, Mark has brought in new mottos, which are now, quote, live in the future. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. That's actually violent to completely ignore the present because the future doesn't exist. Build awesome things. Okay, that's pretty thog. And focus on long-term impact.

Okay. They really went meta so far out there. None of these things actually mean anything. Yeah. And now, a new slogan is, meta metamates me, as he posted triumphantly in a Facebook post. I don't know what that means. That sounds like a divorcee's memoir. It's so stupid.

Right. He needs someone. Who is on their branding team? Yeah, this is bad. They've got a few interesting people on there. So in this post, he says, quote, I've always believed that in order for values to be useful, they need to be ideas that good companies can reasonably disagree with or emphasize differently.

Huh? If you for the values to be useful, they have to be ideas that you can reasonably disagree with. I'm having trouble unpacking. Yeah. Like to hire Aaron Sorkin to come in and write his dialogue much like he did for the social network because none of this makes any sense or he needs to start doing cocaine reasonably argue is that what it is reasonably reasonably disagree oh yeah there's been a lot of there's been a lot of reasonably disagreeing on Facebook like yeah like if your values are like inclusivity you're saying

it's got to be something you can reasonably disagree with. Inclusivity? Yeah. Like, how do you reasonably disagree? Whatever. I'm getting too into the words when they really mean nothing. And then he goes on to say, quote, I think these values capture how we must act as a company to bring our vision to life. Again, vague tech talk.

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You should have just rebranded as smoke and mirrors because that's all it is right exactly and you know i'm i think many people are curious what this fucking vision is exactly because in the last couple days people have pointed out that instagram posts are now coming with content warnings when the content seems to be talking about like corporate greed. So the economic left account. Yeah, that's the thing we're putting a warning on is corporate greed. Yeah, no, exactly. This is what's wild.

So Dan Price, who's like, you know, the he's like, you know, brand themselves like the CEO who stands up for the little guy. He's like, if you see his face, he looks like the Apex twin mask, but like a real guy. So he's put on he posted a tweet that said Exxon Mobil highest, ExxonMobil, highest profit in seven years. Chevron, highest profit in seven years. Shell, highest profit in seven years. BP, British Petroleum, highest profit in eight years. Gas prices, highest in seven years.

Guess it's just that inflation. And underneath, they have a content label that says, missing context. The same information was reviewed by independent fact checkers in another post. Okay. How about this one? Another Instagram post just took a screen cap of a tweet from Kasim Rashid, at Kasim Rashid on Twitter, posted Chipotle. 26% profit increase, raising prices. Starbucks, 31% profit increase, raising prices. Starbucks, 31% profit increase, raising prices.

McDonald's, 59% profit increase, raising prices. Shell, Mobile, BP, 60% profit increase, raising prices. There's not a labor shortage. This isn't inflation. It is 100% corporate greed. And again, the label, missing context, the same information. So this is a group of independent fact checkers. When you kind of look at it, they're not really into it.

Two of them are like think tanks that are far from being like, you know, nonpartisan by any stretch. They had a fucking article that said like inflation is actually, quote, caused by big federal spending, heightened demand, and supply problems, all of which have accompanied the pandemic. So I'm sorry, that sounds like a lot of partisan talk right there. Big federal spending? Are we talking about what, like child tax credits? Are we talking about PPP loans? Are we talking about the stimulus checks that were people got and is that what your article is saying it's actually the neediness of the poors that caused the inflation also we're making so much money we don't know what the fuck to do with it right now also i'm confused about the just the content of these missing

context warnings that just say the same information was reviewed by independent fact checkers in another post yeah like that what it's like okay we'll show you this nonsense like what they're actually talking about and you're like this is so fucking ridiculous so you're gonna as we're dealing with like the like the worst inequality that I've ever known, I think most of us have ever known. We're now going to put these content warnings on things being like, hey, man, this is true. This stuff that I'm saying is true. And I get maybe they want to keep the profits high. None of them are talking about all this like, you know, big federal fucking spending really fucked us this year.

They're saying, no saying no man we can squeeze more out of people right now right it's yeah it's so it's it's infuriating like it really is and like especially just knowing how much how much money is out there and how just such a small percentage of people have it and i can't imagine having that amount of money and watching so many people suffer and just being like oh that sucks well time to get on my private jet go to the maldys like it's like so wild to me the disconnect yeah exactly and you have like that guy charlie munger who's like warren buffett's like right-hand man okay that last name already i can't oh this guy's disgusting villain names yeah charlie munger you're like it's munger he's

gonna fight the batman next you know like this fucking guy right we've talked about on this show because he's sort of styled himself as like an architect and like designer of like you know new age buildings and things like that he's the guy who's designed like windowless dorms that are like everyone in santa barbara's like please don't build this at UCSB. Like what you're building is like some fucked up panopticon windowless prison for students. And it's not going to work. He recently came out and was saying like, these poor people are attacking our wealth because they're jealous. So we are now in the player hater phase, their haters phase of the wealthy looking at people talking about

inequality just haters that's all it is that's when you know you've completely lost it yeah i just think i i'm still stuck on this missing context thing where it's like i feel like if i just like tweeted a joke and then there would be like a warning at the end at the bottom of it that said like missing context another person tweeted another joke like the content of this makes i just maybe i don't understand what the intent is behind it but i'm just like what do you this is all meaningless okay when i you remember when the um when everybody was doing those cdc tweets like the cdc says so i tweeted one about i was like the cdc says that you can now put cocaine and soda again and and like forbes picked up a bunch of those tweets and we're talking about it and they literally put a disclaimer on on like in the article about my tweet that's like this isn't

true like you can't they're not saying you can do that did it i was like yeah man like people no like it's so insane wow yeah like when you actually look at what they say oh this is the this is the other article right that it's checked it says afp fact check corporate prices corporate price hikes are not root cause of U.S. inflation. Okay. So it's just like linking to some. It just says experts rejected the idea that corporations are the main culprit and said the spike in prices follows big federal spending, as I said, heightened demand and supply problems, all of which accompanied the pandemic. Okay.

I mean, look, you're watching them carry water, like, you know, they got to carry water for each other. And it's just so, it's so transparent, right? Like, how are you going to tell a working person who's like looking at the fucking

price of like a paper roll of paper towels, like just go through the roof suddenly. They're like, Oh man, I should have fucking stimulus checks, man. Or like you look at, you know,

the wealthy just report and these companies report record profits it's it's very hard to then be like try and put this blame back on someone else like yeah it's the federal government yeah trying to help people but ultimately that's that is the propaganda that you have to put out to kind of keep people from getting in touch with like any kind of sense of empathy or outrage that needs to be constructively directed at, you know, the oligarchy. So,

cool, Mark. Keep fucking up the earth. Pretty cool. This all could have been avoided if somebody just sacrificed himself and he got laid when he was younger. I'm totally like, this all could have been avoided. Yeah, this guy's oh my god his his whole thing of like we're gonna rate how hot chicks are i literally i remember because like i

when facebook started it was it was when you had to sign up with a college email address like i was like in that first wave of people that, that had it and it was so nuts. And I remember I thought I was, I thought it was the shit. Cause I was like, bro, you need a college email to get on that shit. Yeah. And I did. And I'm like, this shit's fucking not cool. I'm like, I'm still fucking with my space.

Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. How is Tom? He's doing good. I don't know. Probably, you know, like I hate to be like, oh, they're great. And then you're like, he's been donating so much money to the trucker convoy.

Tom wouldn't do us dirty like that. No, no. I think there have been a few articles like in the last year because people become so nostalgic of like this sort of binary of like Tom from MySpace or fuck Zuckerberg. Like, which one is it going to be it seems like he's he's living his best life because he cashed out but anyway who'd have thought who'd have thought that something with such a misogynistic origin story could turn into a force of evil who would have thunk it who would have thought who would have thought and again i believe that facebook wasn't a face that was bitten by a radioactive book.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. I want to quickly talk about the Olympics as that begins to wrap up. Have any of y'all watched much of it? I watched the one-person bobsleigh, the women's one. That was fun.

I watched one curling thing. I haven't seen any of it this year me either yeah i don't yeah see it's like people's will for that has slowly been going down because it's just a massive waste of money and uh energy but yes i think as a lot of people people who listen to this show know we kind of talk about how just the overall waste that comes to mind with the Olympics and the displacement of poor people that comes along with hosting an Olympics and building venues that pretty much never get used again, all for just a big international dick measuring contest. And when it comes to Beijing, the Winter Olympics there, my God, I had no idea. idea like i'm sure there are plenty of

articles being written about they're like why are the winter olympics happening in a place that gets less than six inches of snow every year and i didn't i didn't quite realize what the effort was there so the reason it doesn't get a lot of snow is already because of just geographically where it's at in the monsoon cycle but to put it plainly there's no fucking reason to have a winter olympics there you know i mean like we might as well have this shit in long beach considering like the amount of like resources that they're using to make snow where it ain't any an estimated 49 million gallons of water was needed to produce enough snow for the games, a formidable challenge since Beijing suffers from recurring droughts and a declining supply of drinkable water due to global warming. To save groundwater, they also paused irrigation on tens of thousands of acres of farmland.

You know, they do say that the water that from the melting snow, the Olympic officials are saying is like they're going to actually route that to another reservoir to be used again for irrigation, landscaping, et cetera. I'll believe it when i see it and then on top of that more than 60 million dollars was spent on equipment from the artificial snow company techno alpin which is based in italy where they're basically buying these like snow guns that are just used to compress air like using compressed air to like blow out a bunch of frozen water droplets and then make their fake snow they needed 40 miles of pipe to transport the water they needed like these snow cats that are you know like these tractors to just kind of smooth out the snow and shit and after the olympics like they're saying we've we hear this every fucking time china is

saying you know we're gonna put all this stuff to good use after olympics this wasn't just some one-off thing that we're gonna let completely rot like every other olympic games that's happened on earth and it i think most people are looking at just sort of how that sentiment holds up in in history and it almost it's like a nailed on guarantee that it's just going to rot and like wither away like you know in Brazil, like the stuff from 2016 is now like concrete graveyards. Even in Sochi, that was like a winter city or resort city. They just have like fences up around the old infrastructure. Like, get the fuck away from this stuff.

And even like from the 2008 games in China, similar stuff. They said, hey, we're going to use everything again. And there's just a lot of unused shit. 2008 games in China, similar stuff. They said, hey, we're going to use everything again. And there's just a lot of unused shit. Did they build an entirely new arena from the one that they from the other Beijing Olympics? Well, that's like a track and field complex. Like the bird's nest, I think is what they called it. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I haven't watched. But I'd imagine like everything to be in either a proper snowy place to ski. Or I guess if you're curling, you can use an indoor facility. Or if it's hockey. So, yeah. I don't know how they use the bird's nest anymore. If they're going to do the Olympics. Which, obviously, there's arguments to why are we doing this.

But if they're going to do it there can be two stadiums that they reuse every like one winter stadium one summer stadium but they reuse them every year and like i guess lucky for the people who like live in or near those places and like don't have to travel far but like the alternative is so awful and wasteful and why not you know world cup can be held there too in the summer place like don't like every time they're like yeah we're gonna here's where the next olympics is and we have to build a new thing it's just like so devastating like to every it's just like that the community and the economies of the like the economy of that community and the whole the environment everything it's so insane 2028 la

i i've never been more furious than like with that because and they i i love how that we as taxpayers and people to live in los angeles were given absolutely no choice about it you know what i mean like that's the part that makes me so like, how come that's not a thing that we get to vote on to be like, do you want to bring this to our city? And it's like, absolutely not. And like, in fact, I didn't even know that the Super Bowl was going to be here until like a few weeks before. And I was like, how did that completely slip under the radar that, you know, that we are holding it here and i tweeted about it and so many people were like wait what it's here and i was like yeah there's like no one knew

and so they're like yeah and don't even let us say about the building of the sofi stadium what that did to inglewood like oh my god don't worry about any of that don't worry about all the fucking subsidies that go to this shit and you just realize like it's there's there's only assistance for the wealthy really when it comes down to it. Oh my God. And then them sending ice to like all to like go after all the street vendors that were there for the super, it's like,

it's just, it's so gross. And so it's just, it makes me so mad. Yeah. Well, you know, that's why I check out no Olympics,

la.com to learn about the people trying to organize some sense of resistance and just to inform people just about how fucking much of a waste the Olympics are. And yeah, like I honestly and I think even in the most charitable version, like, well, we can reform capitalism type thing. It's almost like you'd say, like, well, if it's in a place, then you can't build anything new to get the Olympics there. Like that could be a rule where you're just like, OK, you want it. You can't build shit, though. You got to have everything that you need. And that's the only way it's going to happen. Otherwise, just fucking.

Yeah, just do it in one place. I don't think anyone gives a shit. You know, if you're worried about that home field advantage, do it, you know, do it in Mars or something or the moon. I'm sure Elon could get behind that. OK. And then finally, just the really the most pressing debate of our time. Do it, you know, do it in Mars or something or the moon. I'm sure Elon could get behind that. Okay. And then finally, just really the most pressing debate of our time. So on the show while I was away, and this comes up a lot. We talk about breakfast.

We're breakfast lovers here. Valerie, before you came on, we were talking about a controversial omission of eggs from your breakfast burrito from a very well-known breakfast burrito purveyor in the city. And I won't, I won't name them, but let's say it rhymes with Sandy Koufax. I will go on to say that in this, in this show, we also like, we like a good debate based on articles from the takeout. We love the takeout, the food blog. And this one, they're positing the question, are waffles better than pancakes? Now, I don't know what everyone's feelings are on these two breakfast items. I know that it's okay. Everyone's got opinions. I know there's nothing worse. The one thing I will have that pancakes and waffles have in common, there's nothing worse than having a bad waffle or a bad pancake. I do feel it's

easier to fuck up a waffle than it is a pancake. But I will now open the floor for 17 minutes of opening. Valerie, you go first. Okay. Here are my thoughts on it. First of all, pancakes, absolute, not even a question. They for sure outshine waffles waffles i feel like first of all even just being able to order them is kind of risky because it's like waffles seem to be like the mcflurry of restaurants where half the time you go in there and you're like can i get a waffle and they're like sorry waffle machine's broken like every like every time it's crazy and like pancakes are just so much more superior and i i think to waffles it's easy because i've worked in places where they had frozen made pre-made waffles and they would use

those but you can't really do that with a pancake so you know that it's fresh when you're getting it and like those like really fluffy ones and just like getting like weird like crazy shit in them and on them and it's just i don't know they're just much more of a creative endeavor i feel with pancakes and they're just they're so much better kaylin dorante 17 minutes my rebuttal because i'm oh okay i'll say this i order pancakes more frequently than i order waffles because waffles are too expensive. And that is a problem with waffles if you're like going out to whatever, like a brunch place. I feel like generally they really mark. They really try and squeeze the price because they're like we had to use a special apparatus or I don't know.

But I don't know something about, even though like the batter is probably the same for pancakes and waffles, right? Uh, I don't, I don't know about food, but I just, I like the texture and the crispiness of a waffle. For some reason, the flavor just tastes a little bit better to me when it's in waffle form. And, you know, I don't know. I just, I really, when well done, because I agree it is easier to fuck up a waffle. Yeah. But when it's done right, waffles all the way.

Okay. The reason, looking at it, the ratios for waffle batter versus pancake batter. Waffle contains more sugar, butter, and eggs than pancake batter. Okay, so it's not the same batter. So it's more, I mean, you have those elements in them, but there's an increase in that, the stuff that makes it super unhealthy, which is why I think maybe. It's like, that means yamma, yamma, yamma for me. It's hard for me because like it's weird. As a kid, I grew up eating Eggos. And those are some of the, I mean, they're not waffles.

They're like waffle shaped frozen things that you eat because, you know, that's what you're able to make yourself as a kid for breakfast. Pancakes, I've always shied away from. But I do like, and this is where I'm getting a little bit highfalutin, a souffle pancake. Oh, yeah. Like a Japanese-style pancake because that shit is thick daddy. Yeah. And the texture is really something else. you're ever like at a asian market or something and they have japanese pancake batter buy that shit and put yogurt in the mix you will fucking take your body to a whole other level of glucose spiking or something i don't know but it's it really is delicious and i i i think i'm i lean

pancake but i'm waffle curious i love okay i'll also say, too, as a typical white woman, I highly recommend the pumpkin pancake mix at Trader Joe's. It's very good. I usually put blueberries in them as well, and I use soy milk for it instead of regular milk, and it's better with butter, but you can also use applesauce instead of butter. And it is very delicious.

Wait, what does applesauce give you? Like a little more texture? It's healthier than using butter and it's a dairy alternative, but it is like, it's just, yeah, it's just better for you, but it's still very good. Like, honestly, you probably wouldn't even know the difference if somebody just served you one of those. Wow. Yeah. I had no idea. Hot tip, hot tip. Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea. Hot tip.

Hot tip. Yeah. The things we learn every day. Caitlin, can I ask, though, does Paddington have a preference? He hasn't specified. All I know is that he loves marmalade sandwiches. And, you know, there are sandwiches that are made with, like pancakes or waffles as like the like the bread yeah but i don't think he's he's doing that yet yet paddington three i'm writing the script right

now even though it's already in development with the people who are actually making the movie i'm writing my own script and maybe I'll throw in there that, and of course he's gonna, because I'm pro-waffle, I'm gonna get a hashtag going, team waffle. Kick off the debate online for people to determine

if Paddington is waffle or pancakes. Well, no, just in general, your preference. So I guess, I think we should do hashtag team waffle or hashtag team pancake. Zeit gang, come through. Let us know. Let us know where you're at.

And yeah, which is which is the superior breakfast cake or whatever we want to call that. I like the idea, though, like, you know, because, you know, we're out here. We know people who are writers and comedians. Like, have you ever met someone who wrote a spec script that no one asked for and they're like i'm just working on this spec script and you're like why you mean because there needs to be an ace ventura four and i'm like yes what okay so i used to do i used to read for like production companies and like script competitions and like evaluate scripts based on whatever. But someone wrote a sequel to the movie Deliverance. Someone wrote Deliverance 2.

Oh my God. And I had to be like, well, first of all, obviously pass because you don't own the rights to this property. And secondly, this script is not good. But someone did take the time to write Deliverance 2. Wow. And what was this, like more like banjos? They just go back or I think it's like different characters, but they go back into the woods and scary stuff happens. Deliverance 2 is just deliverance in space.

That's all. We're just changing the location. Deliverance in space. That's actually, ah, hold on. What's Elon Musk? There's your script. Someone just used a map of deliverance onto a space aesthetic and now we're like, this is breathtaking.

It challenged everything I believed. Oh my God. Zero gravity banjo. I challenged everything I believed. Oh, my God. Zero gravity banjo. I don't know if the world's ready. Oh, man. Like a sentient AI is doing that scene. Yeah, that would be pretty. I just think about that, too, because I love the idea of like you've been like, I'm writing.

I'm writing the Paddington three. I don't give a fuck because I this person. I'm not going to name names, but I knew somebody who was very hardly working, very diligently working on an Ace Ventura sequel script when there was no talk of another Ace Ventura film coming out. But in their mind, they're like, this is the sickest shit that will ever be read.

And when I submit this, they're going to have to make it. And I was like, that's kind of not how the industry works. I'm pretty sure this is how, and just like that got made. Right? Just brute force. The sequel that no one asked for. Right?

It's like, it's got all your favorite characters, except the one that most people universally agree is the funniest one of the bunch. You're going to love it. Will I watch every season they make? Of course I will. Me too.

I watch the whole damn thing and like cracking my knuckles being like, this is fucking dumb. Why are we doing this? I know. Oh, it hurts. Oh, man.

But it's, yeah. But listen, worth it for the Che Diaz discourse because it's just been very fun. Yeah. I love, yeah. The Che Diaz discourse has been like one of those, you know, pleasant surprises from this. Well, Valerie, thanks so much for coming on the show. It's been a wonderful, wonderful time having you on. Please, please come back. Where can people find you, follow you, support you, observe you, watch you? And

what's a tweet that you've been liking? Oh, well, you can find me on social media at Valerie underscore Tossie. I'm mostly on Twitter and Instagram. I have the same handle for TikTok. Will I eventually use it? Maybe not. But you can find me on there. My new album is out, Beach Trash. You can find that pretty much everywhere. And if you're local to Boston, I'll be in Boston next weekend at a hideout, which is going to be really fun at the White Bull Tavern. And a tweet that I love is one of my,

it's from last year, I think, but I can't stop quoting it. It's so funny. The tweet is, about to invent yard gnomes. Babe, the lawn looks great. How can we get a little fucking freak in here? How can we get a little fucking freak in here?

It's one of my, I quote it every day. It's one of my favorite things. It's so funny. How? This thing, we need a little fucking freak up in here. A little fucking freak up in here a little freaking here oh my god uh caitlin thank you so much uh for helping me with this this wonderful second rate podcast my pleasure guys where can people find you and follow you uh see you uh

what's the tweet that you like you can uh catch me on nintendo Online. I'll be there playing Pokemon Arceus, if that's how you pronounce it. You can catch me on Wordle with 100% streak. Get it right every day. You can check out Paddington 3 in theaters, written by Caitlin Durante. It's coming out soon. No, for real though. You can catch me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante.

I have a screenwriting class that I'm teaching coming up, my intro level class. It starts in end of April, I want to say. But if you go to my website, caitlanderante.com slash classes, you'll see the link for that. I still have spots left in that class. And check out the Bechdel cast hosted by myself and Jamie Loftus. And we analyze movies through an intersectional feminist lens. There it is.

Oh, and then a tweet I've been liking. I've been thinking a lot about Jane Austen recently because we covered a few movies on the Bechtel cast that are adaptations of her work. And let's see. At Galactic Idiots tweeted, and this is from a while ago but i loved it so much jane austen's works are timeless classics because she knew the real horrors in life are having to listen to men who think they're better than you and receiving unannounced visitors oh fuck yeah some tweets that i like first one is from at russ fisher it's a picture of don draper from mad men in front of like a like a presentation board and he's like got his hands open like listen to this idea and behind him the board reads disney prisons because i think if you heard

about the new planned disney communities that they have I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll be next, probably. When you, if you're a transgressor in a master planned Disney community, you'll probably be put in the county Disney lockup. And then one more. Tim Long, L-E-O-N-G, tweeted, I was today's years old when I found out Marissa Tomei is an anagram for, it's a me, Mario. Oh my gosh. Oh my God, is that real? I think so.

As an anagram aficionado, I do think that's correct. Oh my God, that is incredible. I'm sorry, y'all. I had to. We got Caitlin on with the anagram names, but Marissa Tomei just came through with, it's a me, it's a me, Mario. So, yeah.

That. Out to that. That really got me. That one really got me. I didn't expect there to be a mic drop in the presentation of tweets, but here we are. Yeah. That was, and it's not often we get those.

You can find me at miles of gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also, tick tock. But I usually just lurk on there because I'm just trying to learn what the kids think is funny on there. And then I usually get that alert where the person's like, hey, hey, hi, hi. You've been scrolling for like fucking eight hours full. The fuck's wrong with you? I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. More on that later.

Find me there. Also, my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk 90 Day Fiance and get really high. And that's just a healing show for me. And you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page, all that Daily Zeitgeist. Check it out. We got the songs you write out on. We got the footnotes there.

Footnotes. Thank you, Caitlin. Yes. And obviously, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. So for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. And that also means a song that we write out on. And the song that we're going to write out on today, you know, keeping it black for Black History Month. You know we're going to do that.

This one is a track from Flying Lotus and Kendrick Lamar called never catch me and it's a fantastic song thundercat is obviously ripping on bass in that song but he's not you know technically featured on it the video though is fucking amazing if you've never seen the music video for never catch me i believe it's directed by i want to say hiro murai maybe you know this hiro murai knows how to direct some shit uh let me just confirm that yep hiro murai okay shout out to him a fantastic body of work when it comes to directing music videos and just generally anything he touches so check this one out never catch me flying lotus Flying Lotus, Kendrick Lamar. We'll see you in a little bit later. We'll tell you what's trending.

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