The Daily - The Iran War's Devastating Butterfly Effect
Episode Date: June 10, 2026The war in Iran has had some visible consequences, like skyrocketing energy costs and higher gas prices, but the effects of this war are often far less obvious and much more serious for the world’s ...most vulnerable people. Today, Peter S. Goodman tells us what he learned on a recent trip to Somalia, and why the system of global aid is no longer in a position to help. Guest: Peter S. Goodman covers the global economy for The New York Times. Background reading: Catastrophe is emerging in the world’s most vulnerable places as the war in Iran causes soaring costs for food, fuel and fertilizer. Photo: Finbarr O'Reilly for The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is the Daily.
The war in Iran has had some visible consequences like skyrocketing energy costs and higher gas prices.
The effects of this war are often far less obvious and much more serious for the world's most vulnerable people.
Today, my colleague Peter Goodman tells us about what he learned on a recent trip to Somalia
and why the system of global aid is no longer in a position to help.
It's Wednesday, June 10th.
Peter Goodman, welcome back to the Daily.
Thanks for having me.
So, Peter, we're now 101 days into the war with Iran,
and we have talked a lot on the show about its effect on gas prices.
But you cover global supply chains,
which means that you've gone all over the world,
you've reported on how something gets from point A to point B,
and you have focused a lot on all the people who are affected in between.
So for that reason, we wanted to ask you for your take
on how the war has disrupted things all over the world
in less visible ways.
Well, first of all, the price of energy goes so far beyond putting gas in your car, right?
I mean, we've seen cooking fuel get scarce in India, in South America.
We've seen the Philippines limit the hours that people can work in office,
buildings to limit the cost of air conditioning.
We've seen helium, which is used by computer-chipped factories from Taiwan, get expensive and
hard to secure.
The ripple effects of this are almost infinite.
Reminds me that the butterfly effect, a butterfly flaps its wings in one place, and you see a
tidal wave at another.
Right.
I mean, this particular butterfly is coming out of the Strait of Hormuz, which is the conduit for
something like one-fifth of the world's oil supply and something like a third of major forms
of fertilizer.
which affects how much food that we can grow.
And so the consequences of this particular flapping of wings
are especially enormous.
In addition to these kind of ripple effects,
there are also significant issues of life and death.
And that's what I've been focusing on.
I've been looking at 60 or so countries
that tend to suffer from malnutrition
even in the best of times.
And every time there's a shock, we have reason to worry.
and now we have a big reason to worry
because the price of food and fertilizer
is going up very quickly in many parts of the world.
And we in wealthy countries decided to dismantle
large parts of the international humanitarian relief system.
This is the safety net
that dates all the way back to the end of World War II.
And then we in the United States
and Israel decided to launch this war.
The aid cuts that you referred to, the U.S. aid cuts, of course, refer to USAID.
We covered this on the show.
That was something that happened very early on in the second Trump administration.
Yes.
I mean, that's a critically important part of the story, but it's far from the only part.
I mean, in addition, major European donors, like the United Kingdom, like Germany, have also pulled back.
And this is in part because the Trump administration has pressed European allies to spend more money on their own defense.
or financing NATO as opposed to, in the Trump view,
just relying on the good graces in largesse of the United States.
And so in London, in Berlin, major governments have also cut back significantly on overseas aid.
And that has contributed to this picture.
So let me give you an example.
You know, four years ago when Russia invaded Ukraine,
there were similar fears about a fertilizer crisis and hits,
to food security because Russia and Ukraine together produce a lot of grain.
They also produce a lot of the peace parts for fertilizers.
And so from Egypt to Indonesia, there were worries about the price of bread and grains.
And the energy prices did go up because of that war, too.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Oh, no.
These were real effects.
In fact, I went to Nigeria back in 2023 to write about the shock to the fertilizer situation.
And it was pretty dire.
But here's what was different.
There was $43 billion in international humanitarian relief, led by $17 billion from the United States, that got marshaled to take on this crisis and staved off famine in places like Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, and Somalia.
So when the war in Ukraine shocked the world economy, the humanitarian system more or less worked.
Exactly. And then came the war in Iran.
And this time we're in a moment where the politics are completely different, and much of the developed wealthy world is pulling back.
And so now we're in a situation where we've got tremendous need for aid.
We've got climate crises around the world.
And yet we've seen international humanitarian relief drop from $43 billion in 2022 to $28 billion last year, and it's still coming down.
Do you feel like the U.S.'s allies looked at the cuts that the U.S. was making to U.S.A. ID and thought,
okay, well, if the U.S. is cutting it, we can cut it too.
Like, do you think the U.S. almost gave our NATO allies permission to cut their own humanitarian programs?
Yes and no.
I mean, look, the Nordic countries and the European Union as a block are still holding the line on overseas aid.
And yet, the political appeal in many countries, and especially this one, the United States,
of saying, hey, how about we solve problems at home?
Instead of trying to save starving kids
in some faraway place that I'll never visit,
that has a lot of political punch.
Now, I think it's important to remember
that while politically, it's sometimes very convenient
for people to attack overseas aid
and treat it like it's just sort of a discretionary type of charity,
the people who designed it and continued to advocate
for this system have argued that, you know, in addition to the humanitarian aims, it's also been
an instrument of foreign policy. It's traditionally been about national security policy.
And while it might be tempting to say, well, what do people in some faraway place have to do
with the voter in Ohio or New Jersey or wherever? History tells us that when you leave tens of
millions of people in a situation where they don't have enough food to eat and they're already
difficult lives, become that much more traumatic, that can play out a lot of different ways,
but they're not good. First of all, you can end up with the mother of all migration crisis.
Now, I'm not here to fearmonger about immigration, but if your perspective is you don't want
millions of people heading to the Darien Gap in Panama or streaming toward places like Greece
and Turkey and on toward northern Europe, well, you got to give a thought to what's going to
happen if you remove all of this aid and then add on an enormous crisis.
You're describing a bunch of reasons why people risk everything to travel to other countries
in search of a better life, hunger, climate change, desperation.
And all of that, as you're describing, is poised to get even worse because of the shocks
caused by the Iran War.
Right. People are not going to sit in their villages and starve.
People are going to go to where they can better support.
their families, and the worse the crisis gets, the more likely that people will be on the move.
It's also worth reminding people that, you know, al-Shabaab, which is this al-Qaeda-affiliated
Islamist militia, is active in the Horn of Africa. And certainly trauma, like famine,
provides recruits. It's another societal shock. Right. There are a lot of reasons why
it might be bad for a country to become, for lack of a better term, a failed state.
That's right.
What happens when a state sinks into absolute dysfunction?
That can play out a lot of different ways.
They're generally not good.
And it's not tenable for the rest of the world to pretend that it's living in some sort of giant gated community.
Right.
You know, gated community as national security policy tends not to work very well.
Right.
So, you know, I was already thinking about places I can.
go to illustrate the crisis from rising fertilizer prices and malnutrition. And I was talking to
aid groups around the world. And then I had a conversation with Mercy Corps, this American
aid organization that I had known from traveling with them in Nigeria to write about the fertilizer
crisis back in 2023. And they suggested that I think about going to Somalia, a country that is
especially susceptible to climate change, drought,
My reflexive take on that was that Somalia was not a place on my map of potential places to do reporting because it's traditionally thought of as very difficult, dangerous, but they suggested that it would be possible.
And as I saw how dependent Somalia was on not only imported food, but also imported fertilizer coming out of the Strait of Hormuz, I realized that it was the perfect place to see up close this.
grave test of what one person put it to me as the post-aid era.
We'll be right back.
Okay, so Peter, talk to us about your trip to Somalia.
What did you find going on there?
Well, it's important to say right at the top that Somalia was already in a very precarious situation
before the war started.
There was, you know, as I mentioned before, a severe drought.
There had been several droughts in a row.
These had devastated the food supply.
You've got armed conflict.
And then you've got these dramatic cuts to the aid system before this war.
So Somalia imports something like 70% of its food and 90% of its energy.
And because so much shipping has been disrupted by the shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz and to a lesser extent, the Red Sea, you've got several weeks of delays getting supplies.
into ports in the Horn of Africa.
And so the price of food and fuel has more than doubled since the war.
You're describing a series of cascading events that all could lead to these potentially
catastrophic results.
I want to go through them one by one.
Let's start with the food situation.
Right.
So in Mogadishu, which is the capital of Somalia, I went to a fish market.
And there were these guys wielding machetes to hack,
sharks and tuna into steaks.
I talked to a woman who was running a stand there, Fatou Manor,
and she was telling me that wholesale prices have gone up
because the fishing boats can't afford to buy as much diesel
as they used to, which means they can't go out to the deeper waters
where the biggest fish are.
They're staying closer to the shore,
which is depleting the catch,
which is limiting the supply of fish.
So she has to pay more.
And as a result, she has to charge her customers more, so her sales are down half.
And she's actually worried about going bankrupt as a result of this.
And Somalia, of course, is a country where a lot of people already had trouble affording food.
Of course.
But what about the people who even before the Iran War could not afford to go to this market and purchase the sharks that are being cut up, the fish that she is selling?
What have they been doing since prices have only gone up?
Yeah.
I mean, I talk to – I don't even know how many families.
who said we don't know where our next meal is coming from.
We're lucky if we can feed our children one meal a day.
Lots of families are now subsisting on, you know, sorghum porridge with weeds that they're
finding by riverbanks and the drought is even eliminating that.
This is the drought that existed before.
But what struck me was how UNICEF, for one example, they're trucking water to drought
afflicted areas. And they were already dealing with budget cuts. Well, now the price of diesel goes
up so the price of trucking that water is much more expensive. So now they're trucking less water.
Well, now that they're trucking less water, there are more people in need who can no longer
stay in the places that used to be relying upon that water. They have to go move somewhere in
search of aid in the places like the ones I visited in camps along the Ethiopian border.
So what did you see when you visited those camps? And what did the people there tell you?
Yeah, well, this was gutting.
On my first day in the town of Dolow on the Ethiopian border,
the sort of place where traditionally large international relief groups,
World Food Program, UNICEF, have clustered.
I met a family that had left a rural area
where the drought had been particularly severe.
It had killed their 50 head of cattle.
That's their life savings.
Once that's gone, they've got nothing.
Meanwhile, the rivers have dried up.
They can't grow any food.
So they walked for nine days carrying their three-year-old daughter on their backs.
And they get there to Dolo and they discover that all of these international relief groups, almost all of them, have abandoned the area.
There's no help.
Did they tell you how it felt to arrive only to find out that this was just an aid camp with no aid?
I mean, they were in disbelief.
And they understood, like most of the people in these camps, they can't go back.
They set up a tent alongside hundreds of others with some plastic sheeting that gets donated by some other people in the camp.
They find some sticks and they set up the shelter.
And they're just waiting and hoping that some aid will return.
What you are describing is a mass starvation crisis in the making, if not already here.
Can you talk a little bit about what treatment is available?
for people who do not have enough food,
for these children who do not have enough food,
and has that changed also as a result of the war?
Yeah, that's changed dramatically.
I think maybe the most harrowing thing I saw,
I was taken to a UNICEF ward
of a hospital in Mogadishu
where the most severe malnourishment cases are taken.
This hospital has seen a doubling of cases
in the last few months.
This is since the disruptions of the war.
I saw babies needing feeding tubes
and oxygen to be kept alive.
Is this okay?
And I talked through a translator
with a mother
who was sitting next to her
18-month-old baby boy
leaning up alongside her.
So she said the river dried up
so they cannot cultivate.
So they lost their crops, so they got hungry.
And her son began vomiting.
Yeah.
And when her infant son couldn't hold down any food,
she had to beg to get $24 to get her child to the city
in a place where farm laborers are making a dollar a day.
And he was actually a quote-unquote positive outcome.
Oh, that's it.
Yeah, there's three to four days.
He was about to be distrable.
charged. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you so much. I love you. I thank you of you.
But here was the part of this that was most striking to me. The doctors there told me a third of these
cases they think could have been avoided had these kids been assessed and treated earlier.
Now, UNICEF has been forced to close 205 health and nutrition centers throughout Somalia.
If those centers were still there, then a lot of
of these kids ending up in the hospital needing oxygen to breathe and feeding tubes to stay alive
would be treated and assessed earlier, but that capacity has been dismantled.
Peter, you mentioned that Somalia was already facing a cascading series of crises even before
the Iran War.
Right.
Do we have any way to quantify how much worse the humanitarian crisis has gotten?
Well, let me put it to you this way.
In February, so this is before the impacts of the Iran War.
Or the UN Food and Agriculture Organization warns that there are six and a half million people in Somalia.
That's about a third of the population that are suffering hunger at levels that are deemed in emergency.
And early last year, the World Food Program, which is the largest source of food aid in the country, has funds to serve as many as 2 million people a month.
Well, when I was there, this is late April, early May, they were down to funds that were adequate to serve 300,000 people a month, and that was going to run out at the end of June.
So from 2 million to 300,000 a month, and no more come July.
Correct. And I actually got a snapshot of this aid running out in real time in Somalia.
So I went to visit a...
World Food Program Warehouse.
So this is two months supply?
Yeah, two months supply.
Okay.
This is a place that felt like a fortress, you know,
high walls, topped by barbed wire.
Supplying the region basically with food.
And I walked through that facility with the director, Josephine Mouli.
Josephine, so when you first started here two years ago,
how many of these tents were full?
Basically, we used to have full capacity.
She showed me these 13 A-frame tents that normally would be full of food aid,
and 12 of these 13 tents were empty.
So we're in the one tent that actually does have some supplies.
We went inside this one tent that was full, and there were these brown cartons.
This cardboard boxes stamped with the USAID logo and American flags.
It says made in USA.
They were full.
of plumpy nut, which is this peanut-rich nutrient paste that's fed to malnourished children and pregnant and breastfeeding moms.
And this was the last of it. There was nothing else in the pipeline.
Just up to June, June to life.
Right.
If we don't get any funding, we'll be dry completely, completely. We can't.
And I asked the director, quite bluntly.
And then what happens to the population?
What are you going to do?
I would ask you the same question.
It really brought up and you don't have anything to give what you give.
Right.
And get desperate and see people really.
It really brought home for me that these aid workers are now in a position where they're having to contemplate this surreal hierarchy of suffering, where, you know, as one world food program official put it to me, we're deciding who lives today and who dies in two weeks.
Peter, how representative is what you saw in Somalia.
of the downstream effects of this war
in the other countries
that you have been focused on.
Well, look, Somalia goes into this crisis,
especially vulnerable,
but it is very much representative
in that the trajectory is the same.
So in Sudan, which is widely considered
the world's most dire humanitarian crisis
at the moment, where you already have
parts of the country in officially declared famine,
well, now in Port Sudan,
the primary gateway for food aid in Sudan.
You have stuff coming in weeks later,
and then the head of UNICEF for Sudan told me
it's difficult to get that stuff trucked
to places that are stricken by famine
because not only is the price of diesel so expensive,
but the trucking companies are unwilling to take the risk
of bringing their trucks into the hinterland
because there are actual physical shortages of diesel fuel
in the center of the country.
They're worried they're going to get stuck there.
They're worried they're going to get stuck.
there. So I just came back from Ivory Coast, which is one of the fastest growing economies on
Earth. This is in West Africa. And there you have cocoa farmers who have already been suffering
from dramatically reduced prices for their crops. Now they're looking at increased prices for
fertilizer, which means lower yields, lower livelihoods, and on it goes. Peter, one of the things
that we have talked about on this show a lot since the war began was that even if it ended,
tomorrow, even if the Strait of Hormuz
open tomorrow, enough damage
has been done to energy infrastructure
in the Persian Gulf that
the disruptions to energy
supplies could go on for years.
And I wonder whether you
foresee that same kind of
more lasting disruption
in the countries that we've talked about
today. Look,
a lot of what we're talking about here
will change people's lives
forever. Now,
will some of it return to normal?
when the straight reopens, maybe some of it.
Sure, fuel prices presumably will go back down,
fertilizer will be more available,
and food prices could come back down,
and that could have a lot of benefit.
But you have to look at things a little more expansively
than that.
I mean, again, think about the butterfly effect,
all of the ripple effects that can't be undone
in a few weeks or maybe even years.
I mean, I went to a training program in Dolo in Somalia,
that used to be funded by USAID.
It trained people to be seamstresses.
And when I was there, they had no threat.
They didn't have chemicals for their sewing machines.
And enrollment had crashed.
Now, this is not the most acutely needed sort of program,
if you're thinking about feeding people tomorrow.
But it's vital in terms of building up some upward mobility.
Think about that times a million.
You know, Rachel, I've been doing this sort of work a long time.
I spent a lot of time in conflict zones and disasters.
You know, in 2004, I was in Thailand the day of the tsunami.
I went to Indonesia.
And I saw and heard stories that will haunt me forever.
I saw 200 bodies in Thailand set up at this makeshift morgue lying out in the sun.
I heard parents recounting how their children had been yanked out of their arms by this wave.
I mean, I don't really.
like the sort of Olympics of suffering.
And yet, what I saw in Somalia was enraging as well as gutting, because what happened in
the Indian Ocean tsunami was, as they say, an act of God.
And what I was seeing in Somalia was the product of a series of political decisions.
It was made by human beings.
You have hundreds of millions of people who by dint of climate change,
change. Cuts to the aid system, the impacts of the war, are now in these sort of purgatory situations,
and we're still at the beginning stages of it. There's a long way down to go from here.
Peter Goodman, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Rachel. We'll be right back.
Here's what else you need to know today. Early Wednesday morning, the United States and Iran exchanged military attacks in the Middle East.
a severe escalation after the downing of an American helicopter gunship earlier in the week.
Acting on orders from President Trump, U.S. Central Command launched what it called self-defense
operations near the Strait of Pormuz, striking Iranian air defenses, ground control stations,
and surveillance radar sites. The scale of the damage is not yet clear.
In response, Iran claimed to launch drone strikes targeting the U.S. Navy's fifth fleet in Bahrain,
along with 21 attacks on U.S. bases across the region.
But U.S. officials report that nearly all of the incoming missiles and drones were intercepted,
and there have been no reports of American casualties were damaged to U.S. bases, according to initial American assessments.
Today's episode was produced by Adrian Hurst, Michelle Bonja, and Claire Tennis Getter.
With help from Diana Wynn, it was edited by Chris Haxell and Michael Benoit,
with help from Lizzo Bailen, and contains a good friend of the same.
music by Dan Powell and Leah Shaw Demeron. Our theme music is by Wonderly. This episode was
engineered by Chris Wood. That's it for the Daily. I'm Rachel Abrams. See you tomorrow.
