The Dan Bongino Show - A New Middle East: Did Trump's Gambit Pay Off? | Episode 71

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

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Hey there, welcome to Vince. Good to have you with us on a Tuesday, Ceasefire Tuesday. You know, the 12 day war, remember that? Yeah, that's over. We've got a big show for you. We'll talk about the, well, a little bit of the shaky starts to the ceasefire.

The president of the United States making a big announcement on that subject. Also Iran and its half-assed missile barrage that have fired at a base in Qatar yesterday. We've got the details on that. And then a million other things are going on in the world. We've got the details on that. And then a million other things are going on in the world. We've got to get to, including of course, right here in the United States,

there's a lot of stuff going on. Katie McFarland is gonna stop by today. She's the deputy national security advisor. She used to be for President Trump. She's got a lot of thoughts on this. But we're glad you're here on this episode of Vince, brought to you by Blackout Coffee, the official coffee of all of us here at Silverlock.

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you know, the never ending drama that we see between Iran and Israel and a pretty big, you know, battle going on as they've been lobbing all these missiles at each other. The president of the United States has been trying to offer, especially to Iran, a diplomatic end for all of this. Iran never took him up on it, and that resulted in this past weekend, those stealth bombers striking those Iranian nuclear sites and disabling those big, under-the-ground, under-the-mountain nuclear enrichment facilities. And this, under the ground, under the mountain nuclear enrichment facilities. And this, what you're witnessing now, what you have been witnessing, is the fulfillment of a pair of campaign promises that the president has made. One, prevent the Iranians from having a nuclear weapon,

and two, and it's not in that order, it's definitely the other way around, get the United States out of needless wars. We have a country to look after. This one, that's the most important thing. And so throughout this process, we've seen hysteria all over the place. Forget the left, they're insane. But we've seen people on the right

fighting amongst themselves about all of this. And especially in media, there's always this, this is just a truism of the way the media operates. Everybody feels like they have this obligation to give the most hysterical hyperbolic over the top possible opinion on every subject, no matter how much they know about it or how much they care about it.

Because the idea is to create some sort of sensational perspective that you have to trust me on this subject, I know what I'm talking about. When, you know, in reality, normal people have conversations and they don't know everything. And normal people, at least the kinds of people that you and I respect in our lives probably, they don't pretend they know everything.

They say, here's what I don't know, here's what I'm thinking about, here's what I'm concerned about. And so that's what we've been doing here. And it hasn't been, you know, shallow speculation. It's been informed speculation. We've been bringing in all sorts of experts, by the way, from all sides of these issues in order to assess, okay, what are the risks here? What can President Trump achieve?

How can this be accomplished? And what could come next? And so that brings us to the last 24 hours. Suddenly Iran doesn't want to play anymore. They don't want to have this fight anymore. They're looking for a way out because the missile strikes that the president of the United States authorized over the weekend has so brought them to heal. That yesterday they fired a half-ass missile barrage

at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar. This is the largest presence of American troops in the region. There's 10,000 troops there, just across the Persian Gulf from Iran as they fire southbound towards Qatar. And everything about it was staged. The Iranians notified us ahead of time

that the missiles were coming. The United States and Qatar had time to evacuate the area. When the missiles came in, they were easily shot down because, again, they were performative missiles headed into this airbase. And we know now in retrospect that the United States knew this was coming, that Donald Trump, President Trump knew this was coming

and was prepared to say, okay, go ahead, get it out of your system. In fact, that is precisely how the president described this. Check out how the president described this yesterday on Truth Social. Here he is, he says, Iran has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear facilities

with a very weak response, which we expected, and we have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired, 13 were knocked down, one was set free because it was headed in a non-threatening direction. I'm pleased to report that no Americans were harmed and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their system.

Who talks like this? Nobody talks like this. No president has ever talked like this. They got it all out of their system like a toddler throwing a tantrum. And there will hopefully be no further hate, he says. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to peace and harmony

in the region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America. Isn't that amazing? Isn't that just amazing? Let me, while we're in this, I just want to remind you, I was telling Isaac who sits here in studio with me, does such a great job operating my audio levels. I want to remind you that we are never going to have a President of the United States again

like this. These are obviously big and serious issues, but when you are seeing some of this happening and you're chuckling to yourself about the way the President communicates or you appreciate what he's doing or, oh my gosh, this guy's being so candid. Oh yeah, they just had to get it out of their system. Dwell on these moments and think, and go ahead and marinate in them. And to be like, this is pretty awesome actually.

Because I know you and I both know what you're gonna do. I'm gonna do the same thing. Years from now we're gonna look back and be like, man, remember when that was happening? Gosh, I wish I could be living through all that again. Gosh, I wish. I'm gonna do the same thing. Years from now, we're gonna look back and be like, man, remember when that was happening? Gosh, I wish I could be living through all that again. Gosh, I wish Trump was still president of the United States. Boy, that was a good time.

That was really fun. That guy really worked for it. He did a good job. Just dwell on it. That's all I'm saying, dwell on it. It's like I look at, I occasionally look at my daughter and she's 11 years old.

She's a wonderful girl, but sometimes she drives me absolutely crazy. And I'm just being driven nuts by her. And I have to remind myself, I look at her and I go, Vincent. I call myself Vincent when I'm talking to my internal monologue. I use my full name. I said, Vincent, come on, man. She's not going to be like this forever.

She's not going to live with you forever. She's going to be gone. At some point, you're going to look back fondly at whatever this ridiculous moment was. So stop getting so worked up about it. And so it's good. You know, just have some perspective, marinate in these moments. So there's President worked up about it. And so it's good, you know, just have some perspective, marinate in these moments. So there's President Trump saying, yeah, yeah, the Iranians just needed to get it out of their system. Thanks for giving us early notice. And that's a sign,

isn't it? That's a clear sign. Iran doesn't want the heat. They just wanted to put on a show for their own people. Look at us, we're so tough. We fought back and the United States is so scared of us. They didn't even return fire this time. Okay, yeah, yeah, whatever. You got it out of your system. All right, now it's time for peace. This is the president's perspective on this. He wants peace. And so that brings us to Monday night. Last night, the president offered the following update. I just love how this keeps going. This just keeps getting better and better.

And he says, congratulations to everyone, to everyone. It has been fully agreed by, in between Israel and Iran, that there will now be a complete and total ceasefire in approximately, get ready for this, because there's a bunch of numbers here, but this is basically a phased in ceasefire. So try and follow along. "'In approximately six hours from now,' he said,

that was 6 p.m. last night Eastern time, so he means midnight Eastern time, "'in approximately six hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in-progress final missions, for 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended. Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire

and upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 12 day war will be saluted by the world. Will be saluted by the world. During each ceasefire, the other side will remain peaceful and respectful on the assumption that everybody, everything works rather as it should, which it will. I'd like to congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran, on having the stamina, courage and intelligence to end what should be called

the 12-day war. The 12-day war. This is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't. God bless Israel. God bless Iran. God bless the Middle East. God bless the United States. God bless the world. Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America. President makes this announcement. He goes, Look, I've, I've secured this deal. Now, the president doesn't make an announcement like this, unless he did receive assurances from both sides of this equation, which he did both Iran and Israel, that yes, they want to engage

in what they're calling a ceasefire. They'd like to stop shooting at each other now. Please, let's stop that. So he gets that commitment. And also by going on very publicly doing this, he's basically laying all the cards on the table and saying, hey, look, they agreed to it. He wants everybody to know

so that they can be held accountable for whatever actions are to come. If they violate the ceasefire. And also, he wants to will it into existence. When the president posts something like this or says something like this, he's trying to use the force of his own personality and the strength of the United States and the bully pulpit that he occupies as president of the United States to say, look, I'm saying this is going to happen, so don't embarrass me either side.

Don't you embarrass me. Let's get this going, all right? So by this morning, things have, obviously this is a shaky ceasefire. This is a shaky ceasefire. And I've got some developments on this front. But before we get there, I need to share with you what J.D. Vance

is saying about the subject. J.D. Vance, right after the president posted this, right after, was on the Fox News channel and he said all of this is the beginning of something very big and unusual for the Middle East. Take a look, here's JD Vance cut one talking about it last night. They talked about the next six hours finalizing the attacks. I mean, what I think what he's talking about is right now for the American people watching, it's dark over there. That's typically when the Israelis and the Iranians have been shooting at each other what I think what he's talking about is right now for the American people watching it's dark over there That's typically when the Israelis and the Iranians have been shooting at each other I think there's some recognition that that might continue for another few hours and

Tomorrow really is a new day the end of the 12-day war the end of the Iranian nuclear program And I really do believe the beginning of something very big for peace in the Middle East This could be something very very big for peace in the Middle East. This could be something very, very big for the beginning of peace in the Middle East and God willing, he's right. God willing, he's right. Stability in that region. Remember how often the president has talked about this? He said in the past, including during his first term, that he's made a lot of deals

in his life. He's made a lot of big deals in his life, including, of course, now is his time as president of the United States. But he said that the biggest deal of all would be to try and bring peace to the Middle East to solve that. And in term one, he's got the Abraham Accords. He's like, forget these multilateral agreements

where we get all these countries on board and they all agree to one thing and they're all doing it together. That's impossible. That's hurting cats. We're not gonna do that. Let's take it one by one. We'll establish the

Abraham Accords, we'll have Arab nations established, normalize relations with Israel, and we'll go one by one by one, and we'll try and meet them in the middle and figure out how it is that we can come to a deal. And so they've been plugging away at that. They've called a lot, actually a lot down a lot of the anti-Israel animosity among many of the Arab nations in the region. So the president was successful there. But with Iran, I mean, this is it, baby.

I mean, this is the big terror sponsor in the region, killed a lot of Israelis, a lot of Americans, and are threatening to kill a lot more. And the president says, we got to settle these boys down. We got to stop them. So one, take out the nuclear program. Two, let's get to this program where they stop shooting at each other. So a ceasefire. The end of the 12-day war, which is funny.

Don't you love that the president named the war? That doesn't usually happen. Usually that comes from somewhere else. Not that usually the president of the United States. The 12-day war, he names this thing. And one of the reasons why that's interesting is because the Israelis previously were locked in the Six-Day War, which was in 1967, Israel fought Egypt, Syria, and Jordan in the Six-Day War. By the way, Israel winning in that.

And now you've got the 12-Day War that the president has just announced. So that's the connective tissue between those two events. So this morning morning you start to get these reports that the ceasefire is not holding. That there were missiles fired by the Iranians at Israel in violation of the ceasefire and Israel has been absolutely slamming Iran in the intervening time even before the ceasefire was announced. And the president, let's be honest,

he's ticked off about this. He was ticked off about this. So as he was headed overseas this morning for a big international summit, he stops to talk to the press in front of Marine One and cut seven, here's what the president had to say about these two countries. Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs,

the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning

because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that? I don't know if you can be more plain spoken than that.

We have two countries that have been fighting for so long and so hard. They don't know what the fuck they're doing, says the president of the United States. Yeah. Well, that's quite the message, isn't it? Now let's get to what happened next. Message received because after that came out, the prime minister of Israel's office, this is Benjamin Netanyahu's office,

released the following statement about the sequence of events. They wrote, the ceasefire was set for seven o'clock this morning, at three o'clock earlier in the morning, Israel forcefully attacked in the heart of Tehran, struck regime targets and eliminated hundreds of Basij and Iranian security forces personnel. That's what Israel is saying. This is what President Trump I believe is referring to when he said this huge missile barrage that Israel sent in just ahead of the ceasefire. The president's like, why are you doing that? Why? Look, we're headed for a ceasefire.

Just knock it off, no more missiles. This is the president's perspective. Shortly before the ceasefire was due to take effect, Iran launched a barrage of missiles, one of which took the lives of four of our citizens in Beir Sheva. The ceasefire took effect at 7 a.m. At 7.06 a.m., Iran launched one missile at Israeli territory

and two additional missiles at 10.25 a.m. These missiles were either intercepted or fell in open areas, and it caused neither casualties nor damage. In response to Iran's violations, the Air Force destroyed a radar installation near Tehran. Pursuant to the conversation between President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel has refrained now from any additional attacks.

In the conversation, President Trump expressed his great appreciation for Israel, which achieved all of his objectives of the war, as well as his confidence in the ability, rather the stability of the ceasefire. So Israel got the message, right away got the message and says, okay, all right, we're backing off. We're not doing this anymore. We heard you President Trump, but we're gonna stop things now.

We're gonna cool it down. Now that comes out and now we get yet another statement from the President of the United States on this subject. This is right after the Israeli statement. And here's what the president is now saying this morning. I know there's a lot here, but boy, as this ceasefire gets started, yes, it's chaotic, but the president is doing everything he can to make sure it holds. Here's what he said just within the last few hours here, but again, after Israel made this statement, Israel is not going to attack Iran President Trump says all planes will turn around and head home

While doing a friendly plane wave to Iran. What is a plane wave is a plane wave I guess you you rock the wings or something as you're headed on the way out They're doing a friendly plane wave to Iran. Nobody will be hurt. The ceasefire is in effect. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. President of the United States. So that's amazing. Ahoy13 says, Trump said they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Play that clip. I did play that clip Ahoy13. Just back up the show a know what the fuck they're doing. Play that clip. I did play that clip Ahoy13. Just back up the show a little bit.

You'll hear it as the president said that. I think he was able to shake a couple more apples out of the tree this morning as he took care of this. Lastly, the chat has been calling my attention to the fact that he is still posting on Truth Social as we speak. In fact, as I'm doing this, it is now 13 minutes ago. Here's the President of the United States now moving on in his posts to what should happen next.

He goes, now that we've made peace abroad, we must finish the job here at home. All right, this is the key. By passing the great, big, beautiful bill and getting the bill to my desk as soon as possible. It will be a historic present for the great people of the United States of America as we begin the celebration of our country's 250th birthday.

We are finally entering our golden age, which will bring unprecedented safety, security, and prosperity to all of our citizens, to my friends in the Senate. Lock yourself in a room if you must. Don't go home. Get the deal done this week. Work with the House so they can pick it up and pass it immediately. Nobody goes on vacation until it's done.

Nobody. Everyone, most importantly, the American people will be much better off thanks to our work together. Make America great again." So the president just in the last few minutes saying, look, I took care of the easy stuff. I made peace between Iran and Israel. Now's the hard part, getting Congress to pass the damn big, beautiful bill. Get in there, Senate. Do the work. I'm going to tell you in a moment, I'm going to thank the president for the transition here because I want to tell you in a moment the chaos that's going on in the Senate. This has been flying like a stealth bomber out of the sight of the radar, but I am here to tell you right now that something

really meaningful is going on in the Senate. It's driving me more than a little bit crazy. And we're going to get into the details here in a moment. KT McFarland is joining us here in just a few minutes. We're gonna chat with her about what the president's able to achieve here in the Middle East and so much more. So much more. Our show is sponsored by a bunch of great sponsors to include Brickhouse Nutrition. Have you heard of cariluma by any chance?

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the state of play here. Because we've got something really stupid going on in the United States Senate. Right now, the bill is in the custody of a woman by the name of Elizabeth McDonough. Elizabeth McDonough, she is the Senate parliamentarian. She's been in that role now for many years. She was appointed to that role by Senator Harry Reid when he was running

the United States Senate. In other words, a Democrat handpicked parliamentarian is getting to decide what features of the Big Beautiful bill are even allowed to stay within it. Now the reason nominally for this, the reason that she's got this power, is because the mechanism that they're using to pass this legislation is reconciliation. And in reconciliation, you're supposed to only be dealing with mandatory expenditures. It's supposed to be about spending, specifically, and it's supposed to be a limited exception to the otherwise normal rules of the United States Senate.

And to establish whether or not each of the provisions quote qualifies for the legislation, they run it through what they call the bird bath, not B-I-R-D, instead B-Y-R-D. That's Robert Byrd, the former KKK guy, the late KKK guy, one of the luminaries of the Democrats in the United States Senate, a guy who all of the Democrats, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden adored.

They went to his funeral, they did his eulogies. It's called the Byrd bath. It's named after the KKK guy. And so the KKK guy gets to dictate what stays in this legislation and what doesn't. And this woman, Elizabeth McDonough, was handpicked by Harry Reid to call the shots. Are you following all of this?

Does this make sense to you? I think the details make sense to you, but the idea that she would be in charge, that doesn't make sense to me. What in the world is going on? And now granted, she's been in charge. That doesn't make sense to me. What in the world is going on? And now granted she's been in there long enough that she's made all sorts of absurd decisions about what qualifies under reconciliation,

including the so-called Inflation Reduction Act, which had nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with this horrific green new deal style spending, which she allowed to go through under reconciliation. So now what she is doing is she's purging all sorts of provisions from the legislation. And this is stuff that the Republicans in the House passed.

These are things that the president wanted. Here is, Axios has some of the reporting on this. Here's what's out. Here's the stuff that she's yanked out of all of this. One, a provision that would create a framework for the sale of federal lands. It had already been getting pushback from some GOP senators and from hunting groups. This is the Mike Lee provision. Mike Lee was trying to make it so that some federal land could be sold off. He also was trying to make it so that some federal land could be sold off. He also was trying to make it so that it

didn't take away valuable hunting land valuable wilderness and then nothing to do with that. He said, I'll spare you all the nitty gritty details of that particular debate. But she's saying, Nope, we can't include that. I'm removing it because I get to make the decision this democrat parliamentarian lady. Additionally, there's a provision to pass food aid costs onto states by forcing them to share the expenses of the food stamp program. Yes, this is a cost savings exercise.

The federal government is saying, look, we're not going to take the entire burden of paying for food stamps. If you want food stamps in your state, you've got to share the burden. So you've got to pay more for this, they said. And this is meant to save federal taxpayers' money. And she's saying, nope, can't be in there. What? Who are you to say this?

Additionally, she's removed proposed restrictions on the ability of federal courts to issue nationwide injunctions and temporary restraining orders. The big, beautiful bill is trying to stop federal district judges from these insane nationwide injunctions, which are already an abuse of power. She's saying, nope, that can't be in here. There's a GOP proposal to hollow out funding for Elizabeth Warren's ridiculous Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and there's a plan to slash pay for staff at the Federal

Reserve. She's yanked it out. She's also gotten rid of an EPA rule limiting air pollution emissions of passenger vehicles. She's meddling with green energy kinds of stuff. She's meddling with a provision that allowed project developers to bypass judicial environmental reviews if they pay a fee. She removed a modified version of the Reigns Act,

which makes it so that Congress actually has to do its job instead of allowing regulatory agencies to just make up laws on their own. This was a big priority for Mike Lee, as they point out. And then finally here, she also removed language that would have local, state and local officials be able to help immigration enforcement. So she's making it easier to protect amnesty in the

United States. What the hell? So again Democrats don't have the majority in the Senate but they do have an unelected parliamentary bureaucrat sitting around and just yanking out things that she doesn't want. So the answer the question to this of course is what do we do about it? What can be done? Don Thune, the head of the Senate, can override her. But Vince, wouldn't that break some sort of precedent? Wouldn't that open up the door to some terrible, horrible future?

Well, that door was already opened. Harry Reid, the guy who hired her, used her. She said at one point, and sorry, you can't just force judges through, you can't do that. So she got in his way. And he said, okay, fine, I'm gonna override you. Harry Reid overrode this woman, Elizabeth McDonough,

in order to make it that all of his federal judicial picks would get through with a simple majority vote in the United States Senate. That had never been done before. Harry Reid forced it through. It was called the nuclear option. He went nuclear. So eventually when Republicans wanted

to get a Supreme Court justice seated, they used the same rule that Harry created. And they said, that's fine. We'll do it for a Supreme Court justice too. And they did, and they did. And that brings us to today. So Democrats not only chose the parliamentarian, they already blew past her. And so John Thune can do that.

John Thune can do that. And here's what's annoying me this morning about Thune. Thune has already taken this off the table. Go back three weeks now. June 2nd, Politico report, Senate Majority Leader John Thune signaled Monday, Republicans won't move to overrule the chamber's parliamentarian during an upcoming debate on President Trump's big, beautiful bill. We're not going there, Thune said,

when asked by reporters about overruling parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough, who will play a special role in vetting the bill. This is the least Trumpy thing I've ever heard. Trump starts from a maximalist position. You better not get in my way or else I'm firing you. John Thune can do that, he could fire her, he could find a new Senate parliamentarian

or else I'm firing you. So don't get in our way, how about that? That's where President Trump would start. John Thune starts with, oh, don't worry, I won't get in your way. You hadn't even heard from her yet. She hadn't made a single decision yet. Let her speak first and then judge

whether or not you're gonna override her. Why would you take the weapon off the table three weeks ago? That's insane. It's ball-less. And that's what John Thune did. Look, these guys have to get this big, beautiful bill through the president's urging them to do that today. And God willing, they do. And they should include every possible provision that's good for America and of course not have anything that sucks

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good to have you with us. Okay let us see here actually let's talk Iran and Israel and ceasefires and peace deals and the president of the United States. Let's do it next with a woman who worked for him. She was the deputy national security advisor for president Trump. Katie McFarland joins us right now. Katie, it is so nice to see you. Thank you for doing this.

Well, it's exciting times. Thank you for having me. It's, you know, we started with a bit of a shaky ceasefire this morning, a little bit. But the president got out, he had some tough talk headed on to Marine One about these two countries. He says they got to knock it off. And sure enough, it wasn't too long.

A couple minutes later, all of a sudden, Israel says, OK, we've heard we heard the message loud and clear, we're going to stop. What do you make of this? What the president's achieved here? Yeah, I mean, I'm not, you know, shaky ceasefire. President Trump is totally in charge of everything now. And if the kind of response that President Trump gave, as he was on his way to the NATO summit was pretty

clear, okay, guys, knock it off and in very firm language. So if you're, if you're beeping at Yahoo, you knock it off. And if you're one of the Iranian leaders trying to figure out what's your position going forward, you better knock it off too. Yesterday, Iran had this missile barrage that they fired at one of our bases But we now know with the benefit of hindsight that this was all a theatrical effort They notified the United States well in advance people were evacuated

We intercepted all the missiles and even the president said they just needed to get it out of their system He posted the truth social yesterday. I've never heard a president talk like this. What did you make of that? What does that foretell? Yeah, Israel had, I mean, Iran had a couple of choices. So number one, they could have gone to try to kill Americans wherever. We have a number of bases in the region,

and they could have tried for maximum mass casualty. They didn't do that. Secondly, they could have either unleashed sleeper cells in the US. We don't think they've done that. Or they could have either unleashed sleeper cells in the US. We don't think they've done that, or they could have gone after Israel and shoot. So they did launch a missile barrage that President Trump has told them to knock it off, or they could do this symbolic thing against American forces. And it seems that they picked the most minimal response they could. Not only

have the United States taken preparatory action by reinforcing our uh... our assets in the region but we got a lot of the civilian independence in those spaces and then that region so what then in addition to help us around so that by the way make sure you know anybody here at twelve noon tomorrow as we might have something going on and so really it was a symbolic session so ron can say okay look we retaliated but there was no chance that they were going

to get President Trump mad at him again. But what is the, can you help me understand the psychology of that? Because it is, maybe it's just unique because President Trump has revealed so much about it, but for Iran to conduct a theatrical missile attack that really wasn't designed to hurt anyone, but it was who that

was designed to do what impress the Iranians that they have machismo or something? Yeah, their own domestic politics. It's for their own. Hey, look, you know, we're the tough guys. Remember, for 72 hours ago, they were saying, oh, no, we're never going to have negotiations with the United States. We're in charge, blah, blah. And now, oh, my gosh, you know, not only is the Ayatollah in hiding and figures he's gonna be a martyr, he's already designated three successors, so we probably don't ever see him again.

And the Iranian leadership, the senior military leadership, a number of whom have only had their jobs for about four days because their predecessors were killed by the Israelis. You've got a very different Iran right now, a very humble Iran. And I think that's what's so interesting about President Trump. You know, any other leader might just rub their nose in it. They might just brag to Iran, we've got you right where we want you.

We've decimated you. But President Trump is saying, look, if they want to call, they know my number. Happy to have negotiations. So I think he's given Iran so many off ramps at the beginning of the negotiations that didn't turn out to be said 60 days. They didn't do it. Then Israel attacked on day 61. Then President Trump says, okay, how about another two weeks?

And the Iranian leadership came out and said, no chance. Don't bother. We're never coming. So we have the attack. And now he said, okay, guys, you got my phone number. If you want to have a talk, let's have a talk. And the thing is that when president Trump has talked about Israel in the past, and when he's talked about Iran in the past and either other countries in the region, he's always said, look, you choose your own leaders, you choose your own government. We're not going to come in with the Marines, regime

change, nation build, according to American design, you govern yourselves. So when he sort of talks about regime change, it's never been American led regime change. It's always been, hey, Iranian people, if you want to make Iran great again, and your leaders aren't getting you there, then maybe you might consider new leaders. Yes. Can you dwell on this for a moment? And one of the reasons I like you so much is because you do occupy this space where you recognize the immense value of a strong American military, but you share the president's concern about entangling us in needless wars. Can you talk about how he navigated all of this? Because he did have those two campaign promises, very clear ones on national security. Iran can't have a nuclear weapon and we can't be sucked into an endless war that hurts Americans. Just give us your perspective

on how the president's operating on that. I think he's, I think he's threaded that needle so beautifully, along with the help of Israel or the lead from Israel. Because what has Israel done in the last several months? Well, Iran used to have something called the ring of fire So they had Hezbollah Hamas the Houthis they had in syria They had an air defense system all of that was meant to protect iran from attack And it was meant to prevent israel from getting out of the ring of fire and attacking iran Israel has systematically gotten rid of all that.

You know, there's no Hezbollah. That was the remember the pagers in the pockets. Those guys are gone. Hamas, they're gone. The Houthis, we took care of them. In fact, to the point where even the head of the Houthis saying, we believe in a Yemen first foreign policy, we're not going to do Iran's bidding. And there are no Syrian air defense systems left in Syria. And Iran

had air defense systems, but Israel taken care of most of those, not all, but most of those, either the air defense, the batteries that would launch the missiles or the missile depots themselves. So if you look at from the perspective of Iran, they're defenseless. They have no ring of fire. They have nobody defending them. They also don't own their own skies. So Americans, Israelis, anybody can attack with impunity, whether it's with drones or aircraft or with missiles. Iran has no ability to shoot any of that out of the air. So they have no defensive capability. They have very limited offensive capability. And as a result, Iran is isolated. Now,

because they probably don't, they're losing what has happened is China and Russia, you know, they're two great allies. They're hands off. They're not touching this. And so Iran's only choice to retaliate is I guess they could close this straight up or moose. They wouldn't do it long. We would open it, but they would hurt themselves more than anything because that's where all

their oil goes. And that would cut off your revenue stream. So they're right in the most vulnerable position. This would be like, right. This would be like the theory that Russia blew up its own pipeline, that they blew up the Nord Stream. Like Iran doesn't wanna cut off its ability for energy exports.

So the likeliness of them shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, it's a bit of a question mark because they need the money. They need the income flowing. Yeah, yeah, they do. And remember the Strait of need the income flowing. Yeah, yeah they do. And remember this straight up removes an Iranian oil, I think 95% of Iranian oil goes to China. So if they wanna have a relationship with China,

they're not gonna stop supplying China with oil. So Iran is in a very vulnerable position, but even so President Trump has said, look, I had a mission and the mission was to stop Iran's nuclear program. The mission was not regime change, George W Bush style or Barack Obama style with Libya. You govern yourselves. And if you think of a regime change at all, really what President Trump was harkening back to his Ronald Reagan regime change, you know, you, you people in

this country, whether it's in Poland or Hungary or the Czech Republic, even Russia, if you don't like your leaders, get new leaders. And that was the collapse of the Soviet Union in the fall of the Iron Curtain. Yeah. Well, it's amazing to watch the president's communication style in the midst of all of this, because it's like he kind of did with Kim Jong-un from kind of the little rocket man exchanges to being very cordial with him. He said similarly with Iran, he's been very aggressive when necessary,

but then in the last 24 hours, he's posting things like, make Iran great again, and God bless Iran. And it's gotta be one of the most bizarre things for world leaders to engage with, because normally, as you point out, a lot of these conversations and temperament shifts

happen so much more gradually. With President Trump, he goes from all of that alpha aggression straight to, I want your country to be great and I'm here to support you. You know, it is, I mean, this is one of the geniuses of President Trump, is that he's able to thread that needle and he's telling Iran, you know, we'll be great again. We'll help you be great again. So he's managed to do it.

Promises made, promises kept. No regime changed unless they want to do it. No Iran nuclear weapon. We helped deal with that one. And as far as the boots on the ground, he's made it really clear, no American boots on the ground. The thing I take from all of this, though, is the bigger picture, a couple bigger picture things

have happened. One, Donald Trump is king of the world, right? I mean, five months ago, a year ago, China was running around the world saying, oh, America, look at Joe Biden. He's a frail old guy. That's really an emblem and a symbol of what America's become. They're past their prime.

They're done. They're a spent force. They're in irrevocable decline. China's the wave of the future. But if you see what the United States just pulled off, no other country could pull it off. It was complicated. It was precise.

And it was by complete surprise. I mean, every other leader in the world has got to have his jaw dropped to say, whoa, look what America can do, when America wants to do it. And I think the other thing is that President Trump has reestablished American leadership because, you know, when President Trump,

he says something and he does it. He doesn't prevaricate he doesn't give anybody excuses you know Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Iran we're still thinking of silly games we know you're going for a nuclear weapon we're not going to put up with this anymore so all of a sudden the United States which everybody knew was powerful but somehow reluctant to use our power we now have a president who is thrilled to use our power yes okay let me just one other piece from the weekend that I've been thinking a lot about We now have a president who is thrilled to use our power. Yes. Okay, let me just, one other piece from the weekend

that I've been thinking a lot about. Obviously we'll see again how fragile the ceasefire is and whether or not it holds, but coming out of the weekend, it does seem, and the president keeps reiterating, including this morning, that he severely diminished, if not outright destroyed, Iran's nuclear enrichment capabilities.

We've been told for decades now that Iran was weeks away, days away from nuclear breakout. It does seem that one of the big victories this week that shouldn't go unnoticed is that timeline has just been changed dramatically, hasn't it? Yeah, and I think President Trump responded because he got different information that they were, you know, Iran has always been a couple of turns of the

screw away from having nuclear weapons because we know they have missiles that can carry nuclear weapons. We know they have enriched uranium in large amounts. We weren't quite sure that they had the ability to pull it all together like the blueprint for how do you take the uranium, make it into an efficient bomb and put it on the top of a missile. But between the Israelis and between us, we probably had intelligence that that was about to change. So we always knew that they were a couple of turns of the screw away.

And Iran's excuse had always been, well, we're not developing nuclear weapons, see, we haven't turned the screw yet. And the international community has always said, well, they haven't the intention of turning the screw yet. And the international community has always said, well, they haven't the intention of turning the screw. I trained, my doctorate at MIT was in nuclear weapons planning. And you don't look at a country's intentions, you look at their capabilities. And that's what President Trump did. He said, if there are a couple turns of the screw away, whether it's this week, next week, six months from now, that's too soon. Okay, so we're going to take it out now. Yes. Finally, how cautious do you think the president is about the deep state still in the United

States? Because the president made a decision on the basis of what he thought was credible intelligence here about the situation in Iran, as you point out that he suspected that they were a couple of screw turns away from a nuclear weapon. How difficult it is, is it for a president who's aware of the deception and power of the deep state to navigate that now that he's back in office? You know, the great thing about watching President Trump from his first term and his second term.

So I was in the first term and the transition and the White House during the early months of the Trump administration. And we didn't really recognize how bad the deep state was. I mean, President Trump came to it as a businessman, not a politician. And he, as a businessman, he thinks, oh, I bought a company on the head of the company. The company employees are going to do what I tell them to do, or they're going to quit or I'm going to fire them. And I don't think he realized that the company that he became in charge of, the deep state didn't want to do anything he wanted to do. And they knew how to sabotage him at every single step of the way. And that's what they did.

So he was always trying to kind of play and catch up. It's extraordinary what he accomplished, even with that albatross around his neck of the deep state. But coming into his second term, you know, he's gotten rid of a lot of that deep state. He's got the people who are the career people that he thought were working against him at whatever agency they're gone. He's got Elon Musk who tried to buy out a lot of the deep state. I think once the big beautiful bill passes, president Trump will turn his attention to what's called codifying dose. So in other words, make it into law that you're going

to eliminate this agency, cut this, cut this budget in half, et cetera. So he's well on his way to teamaming the bureaucracy, not to his will, not in the sense of a dictator, but so that the bureaucracy is no longer the fourth arm of government. It's in a much better position than it was in the past, in other words. All right, KT McFarland, former Deputy National Security

Advisor for the President. Thank you so much for your time today. Appreciate you and your wisdom. Thank you. Thank you, Vince, thank you. Very good to talk to you. That's Katie McFarland. She's great, a very smart woman.

And you know, it's fascinating to watch and I'll do credit to the president who really has brought a major sea change to the presidency. I mean, just imagine. Can you just, again, engage yourself in the thought experiment for a moment. What does all of this look like if Kamala

is president of the United States? What kind of chaos is the world in? How much is she giving away? She's gonna give away the whole farm, you know? It's just crazy. And the president, as we've been saying these past few days, is Jordan K. Tissek, in a unique position to thread the needle here.

So congratulations to him for doing that and for the rest of us. Love that. Okay, let me see. I've got a couple of other big things that I want to make sure to hit with you today. One, the Supreme Court yesterday ruled that yes, the president can boot illegal aliens out of the country and send them to third countries. So even if we can't send them back to their home countries, we can send them to holding stations, just get them out. So a massive six, three ruling from the United States Supreme Court yesterday, as the Daily Caller covered it,

the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to more quickly deport illegals to countries not specified in their removal orders. A majority temporarily blocked a lower court order that had required DHS to give these illegals notice and then allow them to raise concerns about potential threats of torture before being deported to a third country.

And so the majority just said, yeah, no, this can, this can happen. The only people who offered an actual opinion on the subject was the out of control lunatic minority of the, of the, of the decision. And that includes justices Sonia Sotomayor, Katanji Brown Jackson, and Elena Kagan, no surprise. And they freaked out about all of this. And they said, people are going to suffer violence far-flung locales and all of this. They show way more concern for illegal foreign nationals than they do the American citizens who are being hurt in all of this.

So the United States Supreme Court had a big decision yesterday, which I enthusiastically approve. I am very happy about this decision and grateful that the court is on our side. That's key. Now, the court is on our side. That's key. Now, the court's on our side, but not every court is on our side.

So yesterday, immediately after this, a United States district judge by the name of Brian Murphy, the original judge who caused all this chaos in Boston, he instantly defied the Supremes. He instantly defied them. Ines. He instantly defied them. In an order Monday, ABC reports, Murphy said that eight men in Djibouti

remain protected from immediate removal despite the Supreme Court's ruling. It's also because we were trying to send them to South Sudan in a holding pattern in Djibouti right now on a military base, and we're trying to get them to South Sudan. We're sending them holding pattern in Djibouti right now on a military base and we're trying to get them to South Sudan, we're sending them there. And this judge said, no, no, no, you can't do it. So yesterday right away in defiance of the United States Supreme Court said, no, no dice.

We've still got to keep these guys from getting to the destination the Trump administration wants to send them. Okay. So what do we do about this? Well, one, Stephen Miller is already suggesting, not just suggesting, outright declaring, the following, if I can go to social media here, here he is responding, he said,

a Boston judge has halted the deportation of illegal aliens convicted of child rape and murder. Again, to be clear, what they're convicted of is child rape and murder. Again, to be clear, what they're convicted of is child rape and murder. These are child rapists and murderers that this judge is protecting. He said, finally, the Supreme Court stepped in and halted the judge's law, Le Cedic. Late last night, the Boston judge claimed authority

to overrule the Supreme Court and defied the court's order. Now that brings us to Stephen Miller last night on Fox reacting to this breaking news. Here he is cut for, he said today, that would be Tuesday, you can expect some fireworks on this subject. Take a look at Stephen. This is an incredible victory, the Supreme Court win. It allows President Trump, as the law has long said,

but the courts have blocked. It allows President Trump, as the law has long said, but the courts have blocked. It allows President Trump to send illegal aliens convicted of rape, murder, homicide, assault, battery, crimes against children to any country around the world that is willing to accept them. So whether that be South Sudan or whether it be Somalia or whether it be Ethiopia, any country in the world that is willing to accept these monsters, we can get them out of our country and be free of them forever.

The only thing I have to share tonight, Sean, in a little bit of breaking news is that the district court judge in Boston has said he's gonna defy the Supreme Court's ruling. So expect fireworks tomorrow when we hold this judge accountable for refusing to obey the Supreme Court. We're gonna hold this judge accountable. Boy, I can't Court. We're going to hold this judge accountable.

Boy, I can't wait to see what that looks like. I can't wait to see if you're listening to the podcast and it's already developed by the time you're hearing this, then then. Well, you'll probably find out my reaction tomorrow on tomorrow's show. But it is. Crazy that this is even happening. What is that? When a district judge says up yours

to the United States Supreme Court at the top of the food chain in his branch of government, doesn't that sound to you like a constitutional crisis? The judge is not following the order of the Supreme Court saying, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do whatever I want anyway. That's not how this works. That's not as they say how any of this works. That guy needs to be at the very least,

impeached from his job. And the Congress can do that. They can impeach him. Let's start impeachment proceedings against this judge. It's enough. Another federal district judge, drunk on power, and who put you in charge? How is the dog catcher the president

of the United States now? How did that happen? How are you more powerful than president of the United States now? How did that happen? How are you more powerful than the United States Supreme Court? How exactly did that happen? So I'm a big fan of accountability culture. And I'd like to see that come for this judge in Boston, who's just absolutely crazy.

So yeah, fireworks, that's the word of the day, fireworks from Stephen Miller. And I kind of have this sneaking suspicion that when Stephen Miller says fireworks, he means it, that there's gonna be something meaningful happening here. So that's a massive story related to our efforts to deport this guy. I should tell you that in case you're wondering

who could possibly like this judge, well, back in April of last year, Elizabeth Warren was the person who introduced this Biden nominee in the United States Senate. Take a look at cut five. Elizabeth Warren, enthusiastic about how this guy follows the Constitution. Mr. Murphy's professional life has been defined by his dedication to the Constitution. by his dedication to the Constitution. Yeah, he's just totally dedicated to the Constitution. Except for, you know, Article I or Article II or Article III.

Other than that, he's all in. He's like for the Constitution. Well, other than probably the Bill of Rights, what am I missing? He's against the Constitution, actually. Elizabeth Warren is a cartoon character. She's a ridiculous person. So yet another lie.

A woman who lies about being Native American also lies about the fealty to the Constitution that this Joe Biden nominee, who's completely out of control, actually has. So there you go. That's the typical thing. Lastly today, if any of you are in New York the New York City Democrat mayoral primary is happening today and Unfortunately, this is so freaking crazy. It's ridiculous. The leading candidate right now is a

foreigner socialist by the name of Zoran Mamdani, who's a complete psychopath actually in every possible sense. So of course he's the leader right now in the race. How did we even get here? He's for socializing grocery stores for a $30 minimum wage. He's for taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgeries. He's for decriminalizing all crime. He's per taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgeries. He's for decriminalizing all crime. He's for quote, globalizing the Intifada. He's a psycho. And so he's, yeah, he's the whole thing. He's the whole package all wrapped into one.

He's every incoherent leftist philosophy presented as a mayoral candidate. There was a survey earlier this week that the New York Post published that found that he's right now the leading candidate in the race. Now, again, this is a Democrat primary. You know what your alternative is? Andrew Cuomo, the former governor of New York, the corrupt dude who got a bunch of elderly patients murdered by putting them into nursing homes with COVID.

This, these are your options New York, these are your options. So it comes down to the, the degenerate socialist incoherent radical versus the corrupt homicidal former governor of New York. Why am I looking at this and going maybe the corrupt homicidal former governor of New York. Why am I looking at this and going, maybe the corrupt homicidal former governor of New York would be a better candidate? It's unreal. It's unreal. I don't know. Yeah, it might be good news for the Republicans, but I'm telling you right now. It's bad news for New York.

It's so bad, the Chicago Tribune just wrote an op ed warning New York that if they end up with the socialist guy, they're going to have the same experience that they're having in Chicago with Brandon Johnson. You want to drive your city even deeper into the toilet? Hire a guy like Brandon Johnson or this guy, Zoran Mamdani. So you know, if you can be involved at all in the election today, vote against Zordon or whatever this guy's name is and keep him from power, please, by all means. Hey, thank you as always for joining us. This show

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