The Dan Bongino Show - A Ridiculous Apology (Ep. 2508)

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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Just don't get dead. Whatever you are doing in your life, you should be avoiding getting dead until what was supposed to be your natural expiration date. also in the beginning of the show, I've got a couple things for you, a couple important things. You want to change America forever? Well, forever almost, because we don't really know forever. We don't know how long forever's going to be. I've got a simple, simple five-point plan, and all of these things are in the news right now.

I'm going to tie them all together. Cherrymandering, the Save Act, the filibuster, and a couple more. I've got them all for you. We do these five things. the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, I promise you, promise you, will not lose an election any time in the near future. We just have to do it. All right, big show today, a lot going on.

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If you haven't heard about the story of the judge, I'll get to it in the second. The suspect in the White House correspondent's association dinner, attempted assassination, attempt is in court. And basically the judge apologizes for the conditions. I'll get to that in a second. You want more judges like this? Don't vote in the midterms. Don't vote in the midterms. And ladies and gentlemen, you don't have a midterm problem.

You have a generational problem. Because these judgeships are lifetime appointments. you lose a congressional race. Say there's a Republican. I don't care who it is incumbent Joey bag of donuts in East Dunafish. And he loses to a Democrat. That sucks.

But you're stuck with the Democrat for two years and you run someone again. There are liberals listening who don't understand civics. If you're a member of the House of Representatives, the United States Congress, you have a two-year assignment. That's it.

Senate's six years. For some liberals, this is news. You get a judge in there who's a liberal and an activist, you're stuck for life. There's no getting away. And the problem is, while the Constitution, this elegant, glorious document we have, was designed to have three branches of government that are co-equal and jealously guard each other's power. That's not what's happening right now.

Can we just throw that in a garbage? Bundle that up, throw it into garbage. The most powerful branch of government right now is the judicial branch. Because they're taking up, they just usurp others' power. I'm not talking about all judges. I don't stereotype people. But this problem with the judge in this case is not limited to this case. We've had judges telling the president that they're the commander in chief.

They're going to make military decisions. We've had judges writing law from the bench. You don't see, I'll prove it to you. The judiciary is the most powerful because they've usurped power from the other two. You don't see that with the other two branches, largely. You don't see members of the House of Representatives putting on black robes and trying to officiate over civil matters, correct? You don't see the president doing the same thing. You want to fix America for a long time, not two years, not four years, not a six-year tenant term, Senate term, excuse me.

You want to fix America and make it lasting? here's what we got to do. Ladies and gentlemen, number one, we have to pass the SAVE Act. I know you've heard it before. But when you combine the SAVE Act with gerrymandering reform, when you combine that with border control, when you combine that with reviewing how we do the census, and you dump the filibuster,

you have a multi-point plan to change the country forever. Let me walk you through this. Here's how the steps work. First, we have to nuke this filibuster. I've said it yesterday. I don't want to nuke the filibuster. However, we don't have a choice. The Democrats are going to do it when they hopefully don't get in charge.

But if they do and take over the Senate, they are going to rewrite the rules to nuke the filibuster. Ladies and gentlemen, how do I know that? Dan, you're being dramatic. I'm not being dramatic. The Democrats have already told us in the Senate they're going to nuke the filibuster. And the two Democrats had voted against it, Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, claim to be an independence, and they're gone.

They're gone. You get a couple of, let me give you an example. I'm going to cover this later in the show. You've got a candidate in Michigan, this Al-Sayed guy. This guy is a left-wing lunatic. This guy gets in the Senate.

You think he's not going to vote to nuke the filibuster? Are you crazy, man? Are you out of your mind? Of course they're going to do it. Their voters are going to pressure them to do it. it. We've got to get rid of the filibuster and move to a majority in the Senate so we can do stuff and create an ownership culture in the United States Senate where when you're in charge, your party owns it. You can't just duck and go, oh, you know, we couldn't overcome the filibuster.

Democrats blocked this. No, no, there's no, there's no filibuster. You got the majority. You get it done. Step one. Get rid of it. Step two. Pass the Save Act. Proof of citizenship and ID to vote. Period. Identification. It's not hard. It is not difficult. This is not controversial. The overwhelming majority of voters support voter ID. This is not Jim Crow 7.2, whatever bullshit you're throwing out there to gin up race hostilities. That is not what's happening.

This is a mass consensus position every sane rational logical voter supports. Dump the filibuster, push the Save Act through, make citizens produce ID to vote. No more illegals voting, no more scams, no more people showing up. I'm Joey Bag of Donuts. Are you Joey Bag of Donuts? Actually, I'm Jane Bagged Donuts. I'm pretending to be Joey Bagged Donuts to vote. Nope, you got to produce ID.

Third, make sure by any political means necessary that the 2030 census does not count illegals in the country. The abuse of the census to push illegals into populations, counts has expanded blue state's ability to elect more members of the House of Representatives because there's a bigger population, which gives them a greater say in the presidential vote to through the Electoral College. The legal should not be counted. They have no legal right to be here. You do that.

You are going to dramatically increase the chances of the Republican Party winning the presidency and winning the House of Representatives. Why? one, it's just not the right thing to do to count illegals, but second, because the Democrats are using this census to keep blue state political power despite people, citizens evacuating blue states en masse. Fourth, the Supreme Court ruling, the Louisiana case just came down on the VRA, huge. There's not going to be any more racial gerrymanders. It's illegal. You cannot discriminate based on race, period.

That's it. These racial gerrymanders are done. If Tennessee and some of these other states now come out and Alabama and others and now engage in a fair congressional map, not discriminating based on race, which is now illegal. Ladies and gentlemen, we can pick up four or five more seats. You have that tweet from the DeSantis thing. And Ron DeSantis, who's been an excellent governor down here in Florida, just signed into law a redistricting of Florida,

which could net us four more seats down here too. You see this at a vote hub breaking. This was yesterday. Florida Governor DeSantis signed a new congressional map into law. The map could net Republicans plus four in the midterm elections. Could dump the gerrymandering, get back to fair congressional maps, make them compact, make them more fair, stop discriminating based on race. And then step five, which we're already at, thanks to the,

the incredible leadership of President Trump on this, secure the border to prevent another influx of illegals. Ladies and gentlemen, you implement that one, two, three, four, five point, multi-point plan, we will not lose an election for 20, 30 years. There is no way to manipulate outcomes. The cheating is not going to be kept to zero, but it's going to be kept to a minimum. The scams through the racial gerrymandering is going to stop. The use of illegals to buttress your numbers in blue states that they're

don't deserve the political power they have. They don't deserve it. People are leaving their states. People don't want to live under Newsom in California or Hockel in New York. That's why they're freaking leaving. We will change America forever. And folks, none of these five items are pie in the sky, polyanish bullshit. This is doable stuff.

We have the capacity to nuke the filibuster right now. We have the majority in the Senate. This may be our last shot. We have the capacity right now once we do that nuke the filibuster to pass the SAVE Act, voter ID, proof of citizenship, no more illegals voting. We certainly have the capacity for census reform. We already implemented the capacity to fix racial gerrymandering and get it back to fair maps. We're doing it right now, Florida and others.

And President Trump has already moved on the border. So half of these items are already 90% done. We can do this. We do not have to accept second best. I say this because I am so confident. You may say, how are you so confident the Democrats will lose once elections are free and fair and free of racial discrimination?

How are you so confident, Dan? Because the Democrats' ideas, ladies and gentlemen, suck. They suck. Whether it's confiscatory taxes, excessive government red tape, government control of health care you should control, sticking kids in shitty public schools, none of this stuff is popular. Defund them, police, eh, open borders, eh.

If this stuff was popular, Kamala Harris would be President Harris, and she's not, she's citizen Harris. She's like citizen cane without the cane and with the Harris. She's not the president. We win because our ideas win, because they're just, I hate the term common sense. It seems like such a default. They're just common sense.

Defund the police. What do you want to get mugged? I don't want to get mugged. Well, who's going to stop it from getting mugged? The police? So give me more police. Taxes? No one wants to pay more taxes.

Democrats in Congress have been accused of evading taxes. No, if they're so popular paying taxes, why don't people pay more? Because taxes suck. If public schools were doing such a great job, why is there a mass push for? homeschooling, school choice. Why do people want a choice? If the choice they have now, air quotes choice, it's like a Hobson's choice, go to public schools,

it's so popular. If government-run health care is so terrific, why is Medicaid and Medicare both going bankrupt on a mass scale? Why? And that's what leads me to this. If we lose the Senate, we are going to have another series of judges who are not going to get onto the bench, speaking counterfactuals. Why? Because President Trump has two more years after the November election. Obviously, it's a four-year term. The midterms are two years in.

Folks, the Democrats will not vote in a single judicial nominee from the point they swear in in in the U.S. Senate. They will not confirm one more. That's it. They're going to hold all of these spots open, hoping they win the presidency. Let's hope they don't. 2028. And then you want to see judges, oh my gosh, you are going to have judges in the Barack Obama, Hakeem Jeffries, Bernie Sanders mode on the bench. You saw that yesterday with this ridiculous, this story. This is one of those stories I typically don't cover. But in the larger context of the problem we're having with judicial activism and three branches of government that are not co-equal anymore. The judicial branch is entirely taken over.

We have to fix this problem. And the way to fix it is the multi-point plan I just told you about where we get constitutionalists on the bench. I just need people to rule on the constitutional grounds. Don't be an activist. Check out this Fox News tweet. This is outrageous. The judge and the White House Correspondents Association dinner was talking to

to call Allen, the suspect in the case, and he was quote, he's a quotes for liberals, meaning the judge said it, as a magistrate, by the way, Zia for Farquay, that he was fascinated and disturbed by the suspect's treatment in jail. He notes that it's extremely disturbing that he was put in restraints with no criminal history. It's troubling. Then he references the January 6th defendants. Would anybody treated more unfairly than them? He notes, quote, at a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. We're obligated to make sure he's taken care of. I'm sorry that things have not been the way they're supposed to be.

You want to put this guy in like four seasons? What do you want to do? Give him back rubs. You want red light and IV therapy for him? This is a jail. This is a judge not know how this works. I'm not going to harp on this a lot. You've heard enough of it.

And again, I don't like to repeat everything on cable news. I love cable news. I just, you see it all day. You come to this show for, I want to make the point about the judge in a larger context that judicial activism is going to bury this country. It is the single most powerful branch of government that's not even a controversial statement anymore. They've usurp power from the executive, from the legislative branch, and the country can't continue like this, folks.

we can't have, you know, hundreds of magistrates and federal judges and circuit court judges and Supreme Court justices that all think they're the commander-in-chief. We can't have them thinking they're the Senate majority of minority leader. I got a bit of good news coming up next. The Republican bench here is deep. I addressed this yesterday. I addressed this last week. Folks, I have never been more optimistic.

You got all these people out there. They are such, you know, Debbie Downers or Danny Downers or whatever. I've never seen a Republican bench so populated with talent. I'll show you what I mean. Let me take a quick break here. I'll show you what I mean coming up in a second. You may have seen this video, but again, I want to address it from a different angle because the Democrats have always, always, at least in my, I shouldn't say always,

but always in my lifetime. I've only got 51 years on the planet, probably 45 conscious, right? Not that I was, meaning like I was a kid. Read into that too much. I know. What do you mean? You're like doing drugs for six years? No, I mean like childhood amnesia.

Breaking news. I'm just telling you the Democrats have always had a monopoly on the cool factor. They have. They have. And the media pumps them up. Obama, Clinton. Look at the Obama plays basketball. So what?

Who cares? Clinton plays a saxophone? Great. No more. Kamala Harris was the anti- cool factor. So was Bernie Sanders. And now we got a monopoly. Don't play this stuff down. The bench is deep. Quick break. A quick question. How much control do you actually have over your money right now? Listen, technology's changed everything. You got this censorship culture out there. It is really,

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to bring back the constitutional republic and freedoms and liberties we were destined for. You had manifest destiny, a freedom, liberty, a part of manifest destiny too going forward. Check this out. Here's Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, probably has 10 other positions. You've probably seen the video of Rubio DJ at a party. So why would I play that on my show? Look at his, Rubio. So he's waiting for the beat to drop, right?

You know what I love about it, too? He looks totally natural. He's not like trying to pretend to dance like that awful video we had of the guy running for governor in California up on the stage. How was the cringiest video ever? Look at Rubio. He's waiting for the beat the drop. Folks, on a very serious note here, candidates have to be relatable. The king of relatability, which must be the greatest political irony of all time, is a,

billionaire real estate developer who relates to the average guy, better than most average guys relate to the average guy. And his aim is Donald Trump. He's in the White House for now his second term and has dominated Republican politics for 10 years. The guy just basically owned the kind of cool relatable factor. But relatability matters in politics. Folks, listen, I'm not going to tell you every single person out there votes on the issues.

They vote on people they can relate to who they feel emphasized. empathize with them. They do. And I can't think of a better politician outside of Donald Trump out there who does it better than Rubio. I'm just telling you, we have a bench of really relatable people right now. You've got a warfighter, now Secretary of Defense and Pete Hegseth. You've got J.D. out there who just can go back and forth for hours. You've got Secretary Rubio who's just, I mean, the guy has just crushed it. You've got a really, really deep bench of talent. That's not even getting into the House and the Senate.

Brandon Gill, Congressman Brandon Gill, who we played his clips on the show so many times. Just these guys are really tearing it up. So the point of this whole thing with the five-point plan and the reforms is we're already halfway there. This stuff is happening. Don't listen to nothing is happening as clear. We just need to push the football into the end zone.

or at like the five-yard line right now. A few run plays and maybe a short pass, and we are in. The bench is deep. And it's not luck. There are really big, bold things happening right now, and the country's in an amazing place. All right, produce receipts.

We always produce receipts on this show. This administration is not lucky. They are just good. They are just good. Everybody loves Lucky Trump. This is what the left thinks he is. It's not luck. This administration from Rubio on down is just good.

Another rock star on our team right now in the cabinet is Treasury Secretary Scott Besson. He's not as out there as others. And obviously, I think he said it in the Wall Street Journal editorial article he did. He did an interview along for him. I think he's indicated he's not really interested in politics. Besson's done an amazing job. here he is talking about corporate earnings. Ladies and gentlemen, I know this is a topic like the left one is.

Oh, businesses, corporate earnings. Who really gives us a big, blah, blah, blah. If businesses don't make money, you're not getting paid. Who the hell do you think most of us work for? Whether our own or someone else's, corporations, businesses, that's who we work for. You don't want them making money and producing stuff? What kind of idiot are you? Here's Scott Besson on really spectacular corporate earnings figures

as we have earnings season come out and quarterly filings. This is out. Cognizant that the, that this short-term blip up in prices is affecting the American people. But I am also competent on the other side of this. Prices are going to come down very quickly. You know, the conflict will end. If we look at the stock market, what does the stock market see right now? The stock market is looking through this.

Corporate earnings are good. Employment is good. And this gasoline, this temporary aberration will be over in a matter of weeks or a month. You're going to do it to the audience? You're really going to do this soon? Justin insists that you guys see this again. You saw Rubio before, right? DJ and dropping a beat, dropping a little finger wag going.

Here's the Democrats. This is the guy who's brought in the leading candidates for governor in California. Tom Steyer. Folks, just don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. I'm sorry. Is that his wife?

You guys are always more fascinated by the wife in the background. Don't do it. Friends don't let friends if you're running for office do these political dances on stage. Just don't do it. We'll just continue to avoid that. We'll DJ at a party and continue to produce results. They're not luck. I promise you.

All right, enough torture. You don't have to put it on loop. They've had it up. The chat is in mutiny. Who said that? April 25th in the chat. Pathetic. Cringe.

Who's that? that. Grin. Rad back on. Yes, it is cringe. It's goofy. However, this administration keeps banging out the results. That's an important segment by Besson. Folks, I know it's not sexy or whatever. Oh, corporations, bank, bank, money. I'm going to talk about corporations. Well, you better want to talk about corporations. Who do you think is producing all this stuff from computers to biomedical science material to our food? Corporations. Look at these numbers by zero hedge in this tweet on output. Factory. You don't have factories. You don't have stuff. You don't have stuff. You don't have wealth. And I want to talk about emotional well-being. Great. That's really super important. I love

that topic. Wall that off. If you are not materially wealthy, unless you have materials. Materials come from factories. Zero hedge. Core U.S. factory orders surged in March to best year-over-year growth since November of 2022. That sounds to me like good news. I thought the doomers told us everything's falling apart. Look at that. It's an actual chart, too. Amazing. A lot of green on that chart. Here's some more good news coming out of the administration. I have a vested interest in this. Full disclosure, you know my prior position. However, this is all good news. The nation's homicide rates and crime rates are still collapsing. They are going down. That's a good thing. Like, that's less people who got dead.

Here's FBI director, Cash Patel. Huge. In April, Baltimore. hit a record low for homicides, the lowest number ever since 1970 when tracking began. Lives are being saved every day across the country. He did a long-form interview with Sean Hannity.

He's going to air today on hangout with Sean Hannity, the same show I was on last week. I encourage you to watch it where he talks about all this. This is not an accident. Again, I've explained to you, the UFAP Barnes.

I'm not going to, because it's about me I feel too self-serving, but it's important you put it out there. Baltimore's got a very special place in my heart. I spent, you know, almost 13 years of my life in Maryland, living in Anarundal County right outside of Baltimore. Many Orioles games we went to, Ravens games. That's kind of important.

You don't have, forget about factories. You don't have people working in the factories because they're dead. You're not going to produce stuff because there's no people because they're dead. By the way, thank you to the great Rudy Giuliani. He's having a health crisis right now. please continue your prayers. There is an unbelievable power to prayer. I know a lot of you understand.

I addressed this. We love you, Mayor Giuliani. But I'm going to tell you something. Those numbers, Director Patel's talking about, lowest homicide rates, lowest crime rates, they would not be, if it weren't for Rudy Giuliani at the tip of the spear

of the crime fighting movement with his push on broken windows policing. So I found this clip of Mayor Mamdani, this classless tool, I'm trying to be nice. I don't know why. He's asked about Mayor Giuliani yesterday. Hey, you know, Mayor Julianni's having a health crisis.

You know, he did a lot for the city after 9-11. Man, just grow a pair of balls and say, hey, he did do a lot. It was a tough time for the city. Nope. Mom, Donnie can't do it. Watch this little bit of verbal judo to avoid saying anything nice about a guy who probably saved the city from implosion when he was the mayor for two, terms. Check this out. I think you'd like to say about his contributions to the city, the fact that he

got the city through 9-11. I think former mayor Giuliani is someone that we as New Yorkers know well. And he's been a fixture in our city's politics and public life for so many years. And I know that many New Yorkers are concerned by the reports that he's in critical condition. And so we do keep him and his family in our prayers at this time. That's it. That's the best you can do. I'm sorry, man. but the guy that the mayor deserves better than this. It wasn't for him, the city would have collapsed a long time ago. Folks, this segment is about good things happening. Number one, we are halfway through this five-point plan.

We can push it over the edge, okay? Number two, our bench is deep. We have tremendously talented, relatable, cool-factor candidates who can run. Number three, the economy's in a really good spot. Is it a great spot? I don't like to use the word great because there's always room for improvement. It's in a very good spot.

The public safety situation. We're in an unbelievable spot. The border is nearly sealed. Also, you now have this, thanks to independent journalists, you know, the Nick Shirley's and others out there, who've been doing this stuff for years, who've been exposing government malfeasance and misfeasance.

You're now starting to see generational problems start to get fixed. The focus on fraud with the vice president and the task force, the massive number of arrests they've engaged in there and in California and elsewhere. Another thing I've mentioned to you that's a huge problem that finally people are starting to focus on is the massive amount of grifting and waste

in the education system at the state, local, territorial, tribal, and federal level. The education system, I told you when I ran for office in Maryland, A guy came in. He was a Democrat, Prince George's County. But he wasn't happy with the Democrats in Maryland. He says to me, I was running for Senate. He goes, Dan, I'm going to tell you something. You take on the public education system. They're going to come for you with bloody knives, man.

I said, why? I mean, these kids should, you know, want to get an education. So should their parents. He said, it's not about education. I said, the education money is not about education. He said, no. He said, the public education system is a jobs program. It's not an education system.

That's why this story, warm my heart yesterday. Here's a quick Fox News hit about, again, another focus by this Justice Department on the Illinois education system and some of the stuff they're doing because some of this jobs program that the public education systems become is not about education jobs, but about DEI jobs, division jobs, non-diversity, non-equity, non-inclusion, Check this out. The Trump administration is investigating dozens of Illinois school districts.

Some prosecutors say they helped children change genders without telling their parents. The review is also looking at whether the districts violated parents' right to opt their child out of lessons on gender and sexuality. Senior correspondent Mike Tobin reports from Chicago. Mike, this just keeps happening. Yeah, and Harris, if Illinois schools are transitioning students without the, consent or knowledge of their parents. The Department of Justice is going to find out about it. As you mentioned, the DOJ has launched an investigation into some 36 schools in Illinois. The investigation is going to probe whether the schools are pushing woke agenda on the students, particularly if they're

pushing sexual orientation and gender ideology. Now, the investigation will examine if parents have been notified about how sexual orientation and gender ideology is being presented to the students, whether parents are being kept in the dark about a child taking on another gender, and whether students are forced into locker rooms and bathrooms with a person born the opposite gender. Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon tells Fox News. Parents have a right to know the curriculum being presented to their kids. Folks, this story should warm your heart. The education system at, again, the federal and SLTT level is not an education system.

It is a jobs program for leftists engaged in division. DEI bullshit, non-meritocratic institutions. Things are happening, big things. And I'm not going to let these little kind of non-niche, but they portrayed as niche story slipped through the cracks. They are hugely important in the big picture. Don't lose faith. And I definitely don't lose faith in these midterm elections.

I'm not going to allow it. I'm not going to let the doomerism stop people from voting under the guise of, well, Nothing makes a difference because nothing's happening. It is happening. And it's going to continue to happen. And a lot of this stuff is really transformative and amazing. Don't give in to the Dumerism.

Folks, we got to save the Senate. Going back to the, Maryland sucks. We need you for governor there. I let you know a little secret. I could, well, what's a secret? I think we had a, did we file it at the time? It's so long ago. When I ran for Congress in Maryland, I considered running for governor again

because I'd run statewide. And we had performed very well. It was a three-way race at the time. But yeah, I like being a voice here on the outside. I really do. If I can inspire just a sliver of this audience to go and vote, I know we can make a difference. I know it.

Go pull 10 people with you. We'll make an even bigger difference. Folks, we got to save the Senate. We have got to save the Senate, period. If we don't, we're going to have this continued problem we had to discuss in the beginning of the show with these left-wing judges usurping the power of the other two branches and engaging in ridiculous behaviors like apologizing from the bench

from a suspect in a case who is on video unloading a shot at a secret service agent. They're in real trouble in the Senate. I'm just going to go through a couple of quick test cases and how bad their candidate selection process has been so far. The Democrats are floating in a cesspool of human waste right now on their Senate Democrats side. The pool of candidates is the worst I've ever seen. Here's a rogues gallery of zeros they have who are going to probably walk into the nominations on the Democrats side for this cycle. Fox News.

Graham Platner, who is going to be the candidate in Maine, blames his Nazi tattoo on military culture. And, quote, understandably, quote, draws backlash from GOP veterans. No, no, no. That's not military culture, jerk wad. My grandfather fought pretty damn hard in World War II in a military culture of fighting Nazis. You may have missed that. Like Ilhan Omar.

she thought it was World War 11. She may have missed it. I didn't miss it. There have only been two of them. That's going to be their candidate in Maine. You're ready to give up? Forfeit the seat to a guy with a Nazi tattoo? What are you insane?

Here's another winner. And by winner, I mean loser. This is in Michigan. Moving around the map. These are all Democrats, by the way. Democrats Senate hopeful, talking about Mallory McMorrow. She's running in Michigan, folks, keep this in mind.

Ripped for trashing Middle America. Guys, isn't that kind of where Michigan is? Wow, that's weird. Democrat Senate hopeful, ripped for trashing Middle America and on her social media posts, quote, ticks me off. Mallory McMorrow.

Claims she like, Mrs. California. You can go back to California. You can run there, but you didn't. You were in Michigan, the middle America that ticks you off. How do you think that plays with middle Americans? Here's another one in Michigan. They've got a rogues gallery of zeros there.

Michigan Senate candidate El Sayyad declines to disavow Hassan Piker's past comments. He was out there campaigned him with him. Hassan Piker, you know the Lib podcast guy? He's talking about social murder and all this stuff. These are their candidates. These are their candidates. Here, I'll throw one more at you. Here's Georgia.

You're John Ossoff. You're like, oh, the Democrats in Georgia, like, ah, this guy's like a moderate. He's no moderate. This guy's to the left to AOC. John Ossov, who's the sitting center now running for re-election in Georgia, silent on the Southern Poverty Law Center indictment after taking more than 700K from an affiliate of the indicted group. That's so weird, man. That's so weird.

That's so weird. They got themselves a candidate problem, folks. We've had cycles where the Republican candidates weren't great. Some of them were misquoted. Some of them were quoted. We've had cycles that weren't great. This cycle for them on the Senate side sucks. Don't give up and don't give in to the black pill crowd.

We're going to lose. We're going to get smoked. Ah, whatever, man. We will if you get people not to vote. Folks, let's talk also your financial health moving forward because there are other things happening as well. One of the areas, listen, I understand. I understand.

Again, I've said this a lot. There are a lot of differing opinions on what we should be doing right now about Iran. Should we be there? Should we not be there? How extensive should the military action be? What's happening with the straight? I understand. I'm very comfortable where we are.

We've deposed the leadership. We're now in control of the state. We're guaranteeing safe passage on the Oman side. I think we're in really good shape. We've been there a couple months. I'd like to see it wrap up some. time soon. I think the president feels the same way. However, there is zero doubt in my mind that we have established a good, solid, long-term future for petrochemical markets and gas prices moving forward.

Listen, there's no doubt in my mind that there's been a temporary dislocation in the petrochemical markets. However, I want you to listen to this clip by Peter St. Ange. I love this guy's clips. He does great work on economics. He's talking about something really important. OPEC. OPEC has been a cartel of oil exporting nations that have done engaged in basically price fixing for years. They dominated the world oil and gas market forever. OPEC is in real trouble right now for a lot of reasons. And this war right now going on in Iran is not helping them at all. Here's a quick one from Peter St. Anjan, exactly this.

Check this out. So who wins, who loses for the moment? Not much changes. the trade of Hormuz is driving oil prices. But once the war is over, according to analyst's procurability, global oil prices could drop $5 to $10 on UAE alone. It is about 50 cents a gallon at the pump.

It's great for countries that import a lot of oil, like Europe, Japan, and China. It's mixed for countries that are basically self-sufficient, like the U.S., and, of course, it is terrible for countries that export a lot of oil, especially Saudi Arabia and Russia. The wider question is, will other OPEC members, follow Dubai out the door. Does the entire cartel break up? Because if that happens, it could drop oil prices closer to $20 compared to pre-war. You'd be looking at $40 to $45. It'd also be looking at a

paradise of $2 gas lien. That would mean roughly half a trillion dollars transferred from producers to consumers, which alone would also grow the entire world economy since oil and gas go into almost everything, factories, trucking, plastics, chemicals, cement, steel fertilizer. Let me walk you through this quick for all of the people out there thinking this is a disaster. Oh my gosh. We've had a dislocation in oil and gas prices. You're not thinking midterm, long term, man. I'm really sorry. Who is going to power the future economy? What business? I don't think there's any serious doubt out there that it's going to be artificial intelligence and productivity enhancements. How does artificial intelligence work? It requires a data center.

Data centers require a lot of energy. Where is that energy going to come from? Oil, gas, nuclear, but it's definitely going to be petrochemicals as well. There's no doubt that's part of the portfolio. OPEC thought they would mess around with Donald Trump and Trump 45. What did Donald Trump do? Donald Trump says, I want to build our ability to export oil and gas here, promotes the hydro fracking business. We start becoming one of the world's leading exporters of oil and gas.

What happens? OPEC starts screwing around. They try to drop the price. They try to drop the price to run a lot. of oil and gas companies in the United States out of business because they can't be profitable at that low oil price you think well that sucks they won no they didn't why dan what happened a lot of these companies that were not really efficient oil and gas producers in the united states went out of business but a lot of other companies that figured out how to be efficient

went in and scooped up a lot of those wells and made them really efficient where they're able to run at, say, a $50 per barrel price. You get what I'm saying? They thought they were screwing us over, but they actually helped us over, but they actually helped us by creative destruction. The Iranians also by shutting down the strait, because of Donald Trump's actions over there, pissed off the UAE, the United Arab Emirates, that's now pulled out of OPEC and said, we're not going to do that shit anymore.

This hit on Fox yesterday about the UAE that is really. annoyed because now the Iranians are attacking their oil facility. Short term, definitely an issue. Midterm, long term, they start pumping more oil and say screw OPEC. The world is in incredible shape long term. They're also starting to call out the Iranians for what they are, their leadership. Check this out. The United Arab Emirates is now accusing Iran of hitting with two drones, striking an empty oil tanker as it made its way through the Strait of Hormuz, an attack again by two Iranian drones. At the same time, South Korea says it is now working to verify that one of its vessels was also attacked by Iran.

Now, this comes as Iran is warning the United States not to interfere in the Strait of Hormuz or else. Take a look at this statement from Iran's head of the military of their United Forces. It says, quote, we warn that any foreign armed forces, especially the aggressive U.S. Army, will be attacked if they intend to approach and enter the Strait of Hormuz. You've got the UAE pulling out of OPEC, OPEC collapsing. You've got the potential now for the United States to be the king, the global king in oil and gas production. And you've also got Donald Trump's efforts in both the Strait of Malacca and in Venezuela.

We control now the international shipping lanes and oil traffic from one of the world's largest producers, Venezuela, too. Check out this CNBC hit by one of the energy executives working in the White House as an advisor talking about how we now control hemispheric oil production as well. Long term, ladies and gentlemen, if you're investing in America's future, there's no other party to vote for other than the Republican Party in this MAGA movement and what President Trump has done. Check this out. Great trip. Huge celebration of the partnership that exists today, thanks to President Trump between Venezuela and the United States. Look, President Trump is a man of action. He wants to see progress.

He wants to see action take place. And you're saw action and progress in three important sectors. Transportation, the first daily flights backed from the U.S. to Venezuela, energy, oil and gas. You saw three independent oil and gas companies, new entrants, signing deals with Venezuela, and on mining. You saw a huge landmark mining deal, the first of its kind for gold, for coal, into Venezuela. All of these are showing the tremendous progress in just a short period of time between the U.S. and Venezuela. Folks, I'm telling you, man, long term, we are just in incredible shape. Someone said in the chat, Dan, you know, stop promoting AI.

I'm not promoting anything. I'm telling you only this. You have two choices. Stop acting like the world is a binary. AI or no AI. It's it. Pandora's box has been open. There's no going back.

It's like saying, you know, back during the Manhattan Project, hey, ignore nuclear fission. That's not the way the world works. You can either get out ahead of it and manage both the threats and opportunities. Nuclear fission wasn't all bad. Well, it created bombs. Yeah, it also created energy. That's not the way the world works. The world is on the margin.

Everything is a little bit of this for a tradeoff and a little bit of that for a tradeoff. Artificial intelligence is here. There's no just like, oh, we're just going to ignore it and let China figure out a way to use AI to infiltrate our industrial control systems and kill us all by manipulating the water supply. That's not the way this works. The world is a complicated place. That's why I appreciate having a transactional pragmatist like Donald Trump in the White House who doesn't bullshit people about the tradeoffs.

He's a transactional guy. He can't get all emotional about stuff. He speaks emotionally, but his decisions are very practical. Folks, the politics of the moment could not be better. for this whole MAGA movement. There is a large and flourishing component I mentioned in the beginning of the show and the MAGA movement called the MAHA movement, make America healthy again. I am really proud to align with it.

I mean, it's not my movement. It's just a movement. It does its own thing. It's organic. I'm obsessed with life hacks. We've had guests on the show in that direction. We're going to have more. I have Dr. Marty McCarrey in the FDA coming up in just a little bit.

We're going to talk about exactly some of these. items, psychedelics, the food pyramid, hormone replacement therapy, something a lot of people have asked about. There were scare tactics about it for years. This is a powerful movement. Folks, I don't want to be dramatic with my language, but as someone who went through, not a cancer scare, but actual cancer in the treatment, we have been poisoning our bodies for decades. God gave us a food supply. He gave us fruits and vegetables and grains and legumes and meat and all of these beautiful, wonderful things with these active phytochemicals and proteins and minerals,

micronutrients, vitamins. And what are we doing? We're like, not all, but many of us are like shopping down the middle of the supermarket, eating balls of like, you know, dye-infested multi-grains. crap garbage sugar-infested cereals in a morning. That's not natural, man. We got to get back to doing the basics. Shop around the supermarket.

It is almost impossible to overeat on like steak, chicken, apples, and salad. It's nearly impossible. Your stomach's not big enough. I promise you, though, I can eat. I'm an eater, man. I can eat. Have you guys not seen me eat? Josh is kind of new to his head, but Justin's seen me eat.

I eat like an animal, like a freaking savage animal man beast. Nobody eats me. But the thing is, I just eat natural food, so it's impossible to calorically overeat. We got this guy who drops off some food sometime at the house. And he's like, is this all for you? And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's for me. He's like, that's not you, Paul, and the kids.

I go, no, no, they go to a separate place. That's, he's right. Justin said, do not get between Dan and shrimp cocktail. I love me some shrimp. The other thing, what's that? Shrimp and prime rib? Was that the Teen Titans? I don't even like primary.

But the shrill, oh, man, I eat the hell out of that damn thing. See, we had a little work party. I almost bit Justin's finger on. What do you mean? It's not for you? I'm like, it was for the table? I told you guys get your own thing. That's right.

How do you advertise? I'll take your shrimp cocktail. For the table? No, no, not for the table. That's just for me. You gotta eat healthy, man. I want to show you some of the, do not underestimate the power politically of the Mahal movement.

But for your own health, Folks, the old way of thinking was, you know, get old, let sarcopenia kick in. You're going to lose your muscle. You're just going to lose. You're going to get dementia. Folks, some of that tragically is going to happen. However, a lot of this stuff is preventable. You do not have to lose 90% of your muscle in your 80s and 90s.

No. Yeah, I saw this tweet from AP. It's Associated Press, but it's about, you know, health. So whatever. Taiwanese grandmothers aged 89 and 91 train at the gym. Yes, good for you, Taiwanese grandmothers. They note that an increasing number of elderly people in Taiwan superage society are hitting the gym to stay healthy, both physically and mentally.

I thought decades ago medical professionals said to just sit home and rest. Do not sit home and rest. You will die. You will fall. You will fracture your hip and you will die. Don't die. Don't get dead. We used a little bit of AI just for the audio translation of this.

Thank you guys because, you know, on Apple and Spotify, you wouldn't be able to see it. But here's a translation of a video. There's an actual video of this 89 and 91-year-old grandmothers, hitting the gym working out like animals. And I meet that as a compliment. One of them is actually using a hex bar deadlift. Check this out. At home, I cook and take care of my husband every day.

so my whole body takes on a lot. But my younger sister, who trains here, has gotten such good results. She and my daughter encouraged me to come train here too. My husband is in the final stage of his life, but he still asks me to train here. He worries that I won't be able to take care of myself when he's gone. I also made up my mind.

I want to stay healthy and strong. Hey, Granny, can you lift 30 kilos? Of course I can. People would doubt and ask, really? And I would say, don't worry, I really can. In a medical situation, we would remind patients that gym training prevents sarcopenia and help with osteoporosis while increasing the density of the bones. In general, I have observed an increasing trend of elderly people accepting such concepts.

Folks, man, I know like Dylan music and other stuff, you know, whether dying or the light or whatever the hell, no, no, no dying of the light. None of that shit. You do not have to wither away and die. Justin's like, man, that 91-year-old lady's deadlifting more than me. I think she's deadlifting more than me, too. You do not have to live that way. You do not put resistance training stress on your bones.

they get, look at this lady. Look at this lady. They get porous and they break. Obviously, check with your doctor first. You got some kind of heart problem. I don't even trying to deadlift this. Look at each deadlift like 500 pounds and have a heart attack. Is it like, it's amazing. Is that too, is that true to what could be?

Damn. Damn. Folks, another thing too, not just physically. Do you need to stay active? If you are a member of this Maha movement, spread the word. Go get yourself medically checked out and get moving and go do something. I'm not telling you after a life of busting your ass, you've got to go take on another full-time job. It's not my business at 51 to question people who've been through world wars and elsewhere.

But I am telling you this. There's an interesting piece I read this morning. I don't know if it's in the Walshue Journal about how Winston Churchill had depression. He called it this black dog that would follow him around. That runs in my family. I know what that feeling is like. I do. I call it a black cloud.

You're sad for no reason. It's just hard to shake. There's a good, reasonably good fix for that. You know what is doing stuff? How Churchill would go lay bricks. Lay bricks. Yeah, gave him something to do. Gets his mind off like wallowing on these fake sorrows you have when you're,

I'm not talking about real sorrow. Like someone dies, you really said. Depression, it's like not anchored to anything real. You're just sad for no good. reason. Get moving. Go out and do stuff. I got a feel-good story for you. I saw this yesterday on social media. This guy is just an American hero. Number one, serves in our military. Guys, 90 years old. This is his name, Lawrence Santucci? Sounds pretty Italian. I love them Italians. I got Italian last name myself. I'm half. My father would say the good half, but I'm half.

here's this guy Lawrence Santucci, 90 years old, still working a full day of public service over there at TSA. I think it's an ABC story. This is going to give you the feels. Check this out. John Wayne Airport in Orange County, 90-year-old Lawrence Santucci still works at TSA checkpoint and shows up before sunrise. He's inspirational. The Army veteran is the oldest TSA officer in the country. But working for the TSA was not part of his original plan.

After an unexpected financial hardship, he joined in 2008 when he was in his 70s. I had to come back to work because I wanted to save my house. What began as a way to rebuild became a second career. I try to instill on people when they come to work. You're here to protect life and property. And this week, his usual early arrival came with a special surprise. Happy birthday, Dad. His daughter, Marie, says service is what keeps him going.

He loves our country and wants to serve others, and that's why he won't retire. Santucci says that work ethic started long before the TSA. At 13, I built my first shoe shine box. At 90 years young, Lawrence Santucci still has a pep in his step, finding pride and purpose at the airport. What am I going to do if I retire? Sit down. Carmatic magic in the chat says learning to be happy. when you don't feel comfortable is the key to happiness.

You're darn right. Man, I mean, is that not give you the feels? Folks, stay moving, man. My father retired for like 10 minutes. The hardest working guy ever met. My father is up at, my father ran a buildings department on Long Island. He was the boss. He was the boss for 15 years or whatever.

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Happy to welcome to the show today, an old friend, a work colleague at Fox, and now the FDA commissioner, good man, Dr. Marty McCarie. Doc, thanks for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. So, Doc, I was watching Fox a couple of weeks ago.

I was it? I'm losing track of time as I get older at 51. Maybe you can help me with the longevity stuff too. But I saw a press conference with Joe Rogan. I think everybody saw it. It was on the weekend. It was about a topic I find really fascinating. Cilocybin.

The growing use for PTSD and other mental health disorders. A lot of vets have found some use in this. It was just a fascinating press conference. Where do you see this field going? What's the FDA's role? You know, the dangers of it. Give your general perspective on this really explosive trend. Well, it's an amazing area of medical research.

And we have to listen to the veterans that have had dramatic and profound testimonials where we know there's nothing else that really works well. And so that is data. When people are giving incredible testimonials at scale, that is data. So we can use both our standard randomized control trial models and listen to those stories. You know, we've lost more veterans from suicide than we did the entire Iran-Afghan wars combined. So the wars are over, but our men and women are still dying. And that's because the battle is still raging in their mind. And these products, the psychedelics are doing something.

So we would like to see good data. We'd like to see approvals based on good data. And we want to see them administered in a controlled setting. So you're not just picking it up at a pharmacy. It's administered under medical supervision under very clear circumstances, like we do with other potentially problematic drugs. So we'll see where this field goes, but we've issued national priority vouchers.

That means we're going to get decisions out quickly, given the broad mental health epidemic that we have, in the United States, we owe it to veterans and we owe it to those suffering with these conditions to get a decision out quickly from the FDA. Doc, what's the biochemical kind of pharmacokinetics of this? Is it some rewiring of the brain component? I mean, listen, there are a thousand Twitter doctors out there. And listen, it's great.

I love the democratization of information. But, you know, I prefer the actual, you know, science on this. Is it some kind of rewiring? Is it activating components of the brain that just haven't lit up before, teaching new thought patterns? How exactly are these psychedelics proposed to be working? You know, it's interesting. We don't know exactly why, but when people have functional MRIs on these medications, what they notice is that the brain is not lighting up,

almost as if there's a disconnect or a separation between different emotions or feelings, as if somebody can observe something in the past or reconcile. And you hear testimonials of people reliving an explosion that they witnessed during a war or a trauma in the past. And we don't know how that results in a therapeutic value. We may never know. You know, there are drugs and medicine. We just don't know how they work, but we see results.

Steroids, for example, we really don't know how they work. Lithium for bipolar disorder. Maybe this will be one of those medications. We'll see. Doc, a couple other things I've seen you speak out about. I was really happy to hear about. There's been a lot of scare tactics about, you know, hormone replacement therapy, which has become very popular.

I live in the state of Florida. We have a lot of retirees down here. They want to live active lives. I think many of them, honestly, are more concerned about quality than quantity. I mean, everybody wants to live long, but they want to live a good life into their 80s and 90s. They don't want to be in homes. They don't want to be non-ambulatory. It's a very popular growing treatment.

However, if you read some of the old reports out there, they tell you, don't touch it, you're going to get cancer, you're going to get prostate cancer, you're going to get breast cancer. It seemed like a lot of scare tactics. There should be some massive outbreak down here in Florida, if that was the case. I've heard you speak out about this. What's the current FDA stance on this? Well, look, these are powerful therapeutics, and they're replacing hormones that are normally and naturally in the body. That's the most important thing. Now, the benefits are different for men versus women.

I think they're far more profound for women postmenopausal who start hormone replacement therapy. And you're right. The fear machine has prevented 50 million women since this dogma got magnified 23 years ago. 50 million women, a lost generation in the minds of some doctors, have never been able to have access or came in asking for it, where it's talked out of it, or was just too afraid because of these scary complications that we now know just didn't play out or played out nowhere near the proportions and the risk benefit ratios for the vast majority of women favor starting it.

Women live longer and feel better, up to five years longer in some studies. And for men, testosterone therapy enables some people who have normally low testosterone, and we don't know if that's from inactivity and not working out as much, or if it's, you know, what comes first, the chicken or the egg. But men who are older can have low testosterone, and replacing that does have some benefits. Now, it's hard to take it. For women, for men, it's not as easy as for women. They can wear a little, you know, band-aid type of patch on their body to deliver the estrogen,

and there are many ways to get progesterone if it's indicated. For men, it's more difficult to administer, and the benefits are not as profound long-term. talking to Dr. Marty McCarrey, FDA Commissioner. Doc, the muscle loss is, retention of muscle, I should say, do it in the opposite, is one of the best predictors of longevity along with VO2 max. You know, one of the only ways to do that, of course, is to exercise, resistance training, aerobic training. But there's simply no doubt that we are seeing a decline population-wide in these hormone, natural hormone levels, testosterone and estrogen. There's a lot of theories out there, why it pesticides.

I've heard of, you know, estrogen memetics in our food. Any thoughts on that? And the only reason I ask is because some of the folks I know who are taking these specific products, you know, some of the doctors I talk to as well will tell you, we're really just with the replacement back where normal average people were, basically like a hundred years ago when they were getting sunlight outdoors and working. Your thoughts on that. Yeah, that's right. People are not as active as they used to be. We don't talk enough about screen addiction. It's not just with kids. It's with adults also. So muscle mass is the number one predictor

of longevity, just as you pointed out. So I think activity goes a long way. It goes 100% a long way. If you look at the predictors of what's resulting in the lower fertility rates in the United States. And, you know, we got some scary trends going on. Puberty is about a week earlier every decade. I mean, that's not a good trend. We see fertility rates declining five to ten percent with every several year period. That's not a good trend. You talk about existential threat.

I mean, that might be it. So there's many theories. One is that it's the chemicals that we're exposed to. Another theory is the microplastics. So we've got active ongoing research at the NIH under Secretary Kennedy, not just on drugs and operations, but also on the root causes of these problems. Doc, one of the most powerful political movements that I see growing in a just geometric rate right now is this whole maha movement, which I'm actually proud to align with.

We've ignored this topic for too long. We've focused, and I think you even as a medical doctor would have. agree that we focus too much on treating the symptoms rather than not getting to the symptoms and lifestyle changes. Lifestyle changes themselves probably would knock out a good portion of cancers, heart disease, strokes, all of it. So the fact that we're now starting to get back to the basics. And one of the things I've seen your department and Secretary Kennedy focus on as well are the foods we're putting in their body. I'd like you to address both the food pyramid, which has been a train wreck for the longest time. And you had people eating rice cakes for a while,

thinking this was healthy. And then also a second portion out of the dyes and some of the non-natural components put into our food supply. Well, first of all, we're talking about this for the first time in history. You know, the FDA does not belong to pharma. It belongs to the American people. And that's who we're here to serve. So we're talking about the root causes, not just drugging our nation's kids at scale when we pound them with ultra-processed food again and again. And they can't sit at a desk for six hours and what do we do? We diagnose them and drug them at scale. We've got to take a fresh new approach. So we rewrote the food pyramid with USDA to talk about protein and real food versus ultra-processed food. That's the real dichotomy people need to be educated on. It's not

avoid tiptoe around natural fat and drink skim milk. That's, you know, that's outdated. That's wrong. Food Pyramid in the past was written by the food industry. We're writing it based on good nutrition science. We're also calling out the grass standard, which allows chemicals to be self-declared as safe by companies. We are looking at all the chemicals in the food of children. We started with our action to remove all nine artificial food dyes that are based on petroleum. Kids don't need more petroleum in their body. And then we are moving to the next tier of chemicals, BHA, BHT, Azo-Dicarbonamide, which puts literally bubbles in, yoga mats to make it fluffy and it's also in sneaker soles and someone had the idea to put it

in dough and feed it to kids to get more volume. Well, what's happening is the kids are eating this nutrient poor food and they're feeling full but they're not satisfied because they're not getting the nutrients they need and then they eat more and that is the result. That's what's resulting in obesity. 40% of our nation's kids have a chronic disease, many related to obesity and diabetes. It's not a willpower problem. This is something we are doing to our nation's kids, and it's got to stop. Yeah, listen, I love petroleum, but keep it in the gas tank. I mean, it's great for maybe jelly on the Vaseline or something, but I'm not sure I want to be ingesting it. I think that's fantastic, my humble opinion. I can't lavish enough praise on the department for looking into this stuff.

We've just never considered this stuff at this kind of scale in the past. And, you know, Doc, I tell my friends all the time, you know, at 51, I don't have the luxury. of food cheat days and things anymore. I just don't. My body's the metabolism slows down. You're just not where you were in your 20s. It's really hard to get obese and nutritionally out of shape if you just shop in the perimeter of the supermarket.

I mean, Dr. Marty, you know as well as I do. It's very easy to eat three or four snickers when you're really hungry. And that is an enormous amount of sugar and calories. Try eating an equivalent amount of calories and salaries, salads, apples, and steak. It's impossible. Your stomach just can't handle that volume when it's natural food. Some of the food that we eat today is so chemicalized. It's almost designed to mess with your brain, with the natural feedback loop to the stomach to tell your body, hey, I'm feeling

full, and I need to stop. It messes with that. For example, a lot of the sugars that people eat these compressed processed, sugars. They're not the complex carbohydrates that you naturally see in fruit. So both are sugar, but one is spiking your insulin level, putting you in kind of a food coma,

packaged with other foods that are ultra-processed, and the other is natural food, what we call real foods. So at realfood.gov, we've told people the truth. We're telling people the truth about hormone replacement therapy, about real food,

about whatever other types of, topic out there, there's been dogma. You know, dogma has loomed large in the medical field. And so it's sometimes hard to find out the truth. We're not afraid to tell people the truth. Doc, just a couple more questions. I really appreciate your time. But I'm not sure the general public. And I understand, listen, not everybody has a time to go into detailed nutritional journal analytics. But I'm not sure they understand the damage that artificial sugar, elevated levels of artificial sugar in the American diet have done, whether it's advanced glycation and products, chronically elevated insulin, what it does to your vascular system, like you said, your brain,

the chronic ups and downs you get from energy levels and the subsequent crash. Really, I can't say it on. I am so glad to see your department focusing on this, because even when you do things like juices, I'm not telling you how to live a Spartan lifestyle. I'm just saying you stripped the fiber out of the fruit. the fruit was meant to be eaten that way because the fiber delays the natural sugar from entering the system so you don't get these massive spikes. That's right. You get slower absorption of these carbohydrates when they're bound to fiber. It just takes a longer time for the sugar to transit the GI tract, which means you're not getting a spike in your insulin levels. So when you spike

your insulin levels from a big sugar load, do you know what happens? The body will immediately convert it to fat and move it to the liver. That's why liver cancer is going up in the United States. If I told you that eating the wrong foods, eating too much sugar, can cause cancer, you'd say, wait a minute, that's not true, but it is absolutely true. The one type of cancer that is going up in the United States as the, as other cancers are going down, is liver cancer. And that's because of the body's natural conversion of fat to the liver to put it in storage when you have too much in your system. And guess what percent of teens have too much in their system? A third. A third of teens from studies now have pre-diabetes or diabetes. That's exactly what's happening in their

body. Last question for you. I've seen some comments from HHS and FDA about artificial intelligence and the use of cancer detection. I had lymphoma. I had, you know, it was really not a great time in my life. Luckily, we caught it at stage one. But Dr. Marty, I was very lucky. It was a very visible lump in the neck. I could see. I could see as I was shaving. It wasn't hard to detect. If you have a cancer like pancreatic where the symptoms show up typically at stage three to five, there's no recovering from that. I mean, it's possible, but it's very unlikely. Where do we stand with that? Are you optimistic about this technology? Please give me some good news because I don't want to say I live in fear, but I'll say I live in anxiety of a recurrence. Thank God it's been five years. But. You know, cancer patients out there want to hear that the technology is going to finally catch up to this dreadful disease. Well, you're exactly right. And so glad to see you're doing better. We were cheering you on all the way.

You've done really phenomenal. Pachryous cancer is one of the toughest cancers. I took care of pancreas cancer patients for my 22-year career at Johns Hopkins. It was my area especially. It's hard. When you break bad news to somebody and they look at you and say, is there anything out there and you don't have anything to offer, I mean, it impacts your soul. It makes you think differently.

It gives you a sense of urgency, and that's a sense of urgency I bring to the FDA. Well, it's an exciting time. Right now, we had three major announcements in the last couple of weeks. One is a new pancreas cancer drug that had promising results. We identified it early and gave it a priority review voucher

and approved the expanded access application in two days, which is unheard of. The second announcement was a pancreas cancer vaccine that looks promising. And the third was that researchers at Mayo Clinic say they can identify changes on a CAT scan now using AI up to three years before you develop the cancer. Right now there's no screening for pancreatic cancer. So we got three promising data points all in the last couple weeks. Dr. Marty McCarie, I really appreciate your time.

It was great working with you and hearing your commentary over at Fox. And I'm happy to hear this Maha movement is really a growing and really important phenomenon in the United States. and making America healthy again. You don't have a healthy country. You don't have a country at all, man. You just got a bunch of dying folks. So I really appreciate your time, Doc. Thanks a lot.

Good to see you. Folks, I hope you enjoyed that. I know a lot of you are health hackers like me. Dr. McCarie's take on AI and cancer, the food pyramid. Be really careful with your sugar intake. I know you've been told that since you were a kid, but this is real.

You know, this is not just some luxury item. Oh, I'm going to have sugar every once in a while. Sugar, alcohol, all of it. I'm not telling you got a little bit. of a Spartan existence. I'm just telling you, be very careful, know what you're putting in your body and understand the consequences.

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