The Dan Bongino Show - Alligator Alcatraz Is Upon Us | Episode 76

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

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Hey baby, welcome to Vince. Good to have you with us today. As always, today on a Tuesday, just ahead as we're doing this live, ahead potentially of the United States Senate, getting that big beautiful bill through. They were up all night, all sorts of nonsense ensued. I've got the details on that. Also, alligator Alcatraz is opening today and a big interview today with a guy who would like to take the seat in Kentucky currently occupied by Mitch McConnell. Stay tuned for that. We got to talk to all these candidates and get a feel for who should have these jobs. That's ahead on this edition of Vince. Again, great to have you with us. Best damn audience in media. You know something? What you do online,

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Uthmeyer, the attorney general down there, they announced this thing like last week. It was just, I think it was the beginning of last week. They said, yeah, we're thinking we're going to get this alligator Alcatraz open. We've got this remote airstrip, little used, that we'd like to get up and running as a detention space. We want to hold 5,000 people here. And as we're accelerating people out of the country, we've got a great place to send them that's surrounded by alligators and pythons. So let's do that. Let's do that. And the Trump administration said, Yeah, let's do that. And in no time, we get this

announcement that not only is it opening, but that the president is going to be there for opening day. Here's Caroline Leavitt with the news yesterday, cut one. Tomorrow, President Trump will travel to the great state of Florida to attend the opening of a new illegal alien detention center. The facility is in the heart of the Everglades and will be informally known as Alligator Alcatraz. There is only one road leading in and the only way out is a one way flight. It is isolated and surrounded by dangerous wildlife

and unforgiving terrain. The facility will have up to 5,000 beds to house, process, and deport criminal illegal aliens. This is an efficient and low-cost way to help carry out the largest mass deportation campaign in American history. Yeah, it's a very efficient way to do it. Isn't that nice? You have a runway right there. The deportations don't need to go anywhere else. You just walk people right out of the tents that they've arranged at Alligator Alcatraz and you bring them over to the runway and then you get

them out of the country. That's a great idea. And Ron DeSantis was talking about all of the great elements here at Alligator Alcatraz this week, and saying this is going to be a fantastic way to deport people. Take a look, cut to here's the governor of Florida. And so these guys set up this whole thing within a matter of days. And so when the president comes tomorrow, he's going to be able to see, you know, you're going to be able to do. What will happen is you bring people in there. They ain't going anywhere once they're there unless you want them to go somewhere because good luck in the civilization.

So the security is amazing. But what's natural and otherwise. But what the you'll be able to bring people in, they'll get processed, they have an order of removal, then they can be queued, and you can, the federal government can fly right on the runway, right there. You literally drive them 2,000 feet, put them on a plane, and then they're gone. It's very logistically simple, but what we're also going to do is, you know, this idea of immigration judge, these are not Article III judges.

They're not federal judges like we think of. These are executive branch employees who are called immigration judges. So you can have pretty much, you can deputize different employees to do that. So we've offered some of our national guardsmen to be able to serve as immigration judges. So what you could have is, okay, someone's a criminal alien. They obviously fast track someone as an order of deportation. Okay, fast track. Yeah. Yeah, so we got a great process here.

And if the second you're ready for deportation, the second that you're cleared to be deported from our country, we take you 2000 feet to the airplane that's waiting outside and boom, you're gone, goodbye. Don't come back. Don't come back. So that's the plan.

So Alligator Alcatraz is opening today. We're already getting some early looks at what the facility looks like. There's a number of reporters down there, some friends of mine, Julio Rosas down there, Benny Johnson is down there. In fact, here's cut 10, just take a look. Here's Alligator Alcatraz, some of the images,

just hours now from being able to bring in all of these illegals, the President of the United States set to be there shortly, having departed from the White House this morning, destined to go to Florida and visit here, see this facility, you know, not exactly, you know, five-star accommodations, but it'll do, bunk beds, you know, you've got,

it looks like you got the pillows, you got the mattresses, you got enough, somewhere for somebody to lay their head while they wait to be deported from the United States of America. And don't bother trying to escape because that effort will be completely fruitless, completely fruitless. Now, obviously, we're already seeing the left attacking all of this because one, they obviously hate immigration enforcement. But the other piece of this is the way they're trying to attack this as being, oh, it's inhumane. You shouldn't do this. This is terrible.

How could you treat people like this? Now, never mind the fact that the illegal aliens who are invariably taken into custody by the United States right now are typically very violent people who've committed additional crimes inside of our country and desperately need to be taken out quickly. But the point of all of this is not merely to provide another space where we can deport people. And of course it is. And it's also not to just have a low cost way to maintain security. But yes, of course it is. It's to send the most theatrical possible message available, which is you want to stay here in this country illegally?

There are dire consequences awaiting you. We have something called alligator Alcatraz waiting to hold you on your way out of the country. It is the most obvious message imaginable. Remember back to when the president was deporting people to and has been still to El Salvador, sending them off to this prison that's designed to hold some of the world's worst terrorists and gangsters. And he's doing that in collaboration with President Bukele, who heads that country, El Salvador. They're bringing people in. Not only are they bringing people in, that would just be a

simple headline. You got to see the images of what that looked like. As people were taken off of buses, these gangsters are taken off of buses, you get prison guards, huge dudes, all strapped up, all around them, taking these guys off the buses, keeping their heads down, bringing them into the building, putting them down on their knees, shaving their heads, and then getting them single file heads down, bowed over, just walking as quickly as they can into the prison in order to detain them. And then they capture video footage of all of this and they release it to the planet. What do you think the point of that is?

It's not merely so El Salvador can brag about how it was able to crack down on crime in their own country and make the country a lot safer in the process, which again, it is. It's also about sending a message that if you stay in the United States illegally, there are a variety of consequences awaiting you. And so at this moment, you have two very obvious options. One, you do this the easy way. The easy way, the generous way is you go on the CBP home app, you tell the United States federal government that you're here illegally, and that you would like assistance from US taxpayers to get your rear end out of the country.

The United States government is going to happily oblige. The Trump administration wants to help you leave. So they'll help you leave. And when you get to your final destination, they'll even sweeten the pot. They'll throw in a thousand bucks. Thank you. And if you're ever going to come back again, do it the right way. That's the offer that the United States has on hand. But if you don't do it the right way, if you refuse to register,

if you refuse to take the easy way, well, then this is going to get very difficult for you. ICE is going to find you. ICE will deport you. And when they deport you, they will take you to a number of detention spaces around the country, some of which include alligator Alcatraz in Florida, or perhaps Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, where we have been holding illegal immigrants as we're deporting them from the country. The president at one point floated even opening up Alcatraz itself, the original Alcatraz, the island, in order to hold criminals here in the United States. There's a lot of options available.

And if you'd like to avoid alligator Alcatraz or Gitmo or actual Alcatraz or sea cod down on El Salvador, there's a way to do that. And it's to take the president up on his offer, the easy way. These are the pills you're being handed. Why don't you take the right one? That's what's happening here.

So this whole sequence of events that you're seeing this week is not only a great and quickly envisioned idea by Florida, it's also the president of the United States embracing it in order to encourage what we need, which is more self deportations. Government facilitated deportations are not going to be enough here. You know, they want to get up to 2000, 3000 a day very quickly. They're

at 2k right now. But getting people to deport themselves, that's a massive thing. That's a massive thing. And at its best, when we're deporting people like Eisenhower did in the middle of the last century, the government was deporting one person for every 10 people who deported themselves. We can get there again. We can get there again. If we're doing 3,000 actual government managed deportations a day, and you get 10 times as many self-deporting, that's 30,000 people a day self-deporting. And that's what we want to do.

So this is a very, very cool way to get about it. Now, again, you'll hear from the left on all of this. They're saying all sorts of ludicrous things about alligator Alcatraz. It's so awful, it's so inhumane. How could you do that? How could you feed people to alligators? They're not feeding people to alligators.

If the alligators get fed by people, that's their fault, the people's fault who tried to run away from alligator Alcatraz. But Tom Homan, I'll get to the borders right here, Tom Homan was actually asked yesterday about a man who died, I believe he's 65 years old. He died while he was in ICE custody, allegedly. And Tom Homan, he didn't know anything about it. He said, look, I'm not familiar with that particular instance, but let me just say this

about what it means to be in ICE custody and the high quality of the detention standards that ICE maintains. Here's Tom Homan, Cut 3. There are reports of a 75 year old Cuban national who died in ICE custody. He had lived in the United States for 60 years. He was being held in ICE detention in Florida. Is there anything you can tell us about that? There's still not a lot of information how he died I'm unaware of that. I'm not aware that I mean people die in ice custody people die in county jail people die in state prisons I mean if you look at you know when I was ice tractor and we drill down that The question should be how many lives does I save? Because when they go into detention we find many with diseases and stuff that we deal with right away to prevent death So I'm not wearing a specific case they go into detention, we find many with diseases and stuff that we deal with right away to prevent death.

So I'm not wearing a specific case, but I'll say this, people can argue with me all they want, but the facts are the facts. I think the politicians in New Jersey found this out, that we have the highest detention standards in the industry. I'll compare an ICE detention facility against any state prison, against any federal facility. I'll go head to head with any of them. You go to ICE.gov and look at our detention standards. It's the highest detention standards in the industry.

The highest detention standards in the industry. Let me put that differently. He's saying that they treat people humanely. They treat people humanely, regardless of how awful they've been to our country. They're treated humanely while they're in custody of immigration and customs enforcement. That's pretty straightforward. And God bless Tom Homan for not falling for the bait on that question.

And she's like, well, there was this one guy who died while he was in ICE custody. I don't even know what that means. I'm not familiar with the story that you're telling me. And again, I have no idea what that means, but let me just instantly turn your question on its head. One, how many lives is ICE saving? Forget the one guy who you claim just died. How many people are being saved because

of ICE's work? Whether it's as Tom Homan said, screening for disease in these facilities, or just getting killers off the streets. How many Jocelyn Nungarees do we need? How many Lakin Riley's do we need before we get these people out of our country? And that's what the Trump administration is doing right now. Tom H administration is doing right now. Tom Homan is doing right now and all those great men and women of ice. So, uh, great, great response from the borders are as ever, uh, as he, as he

points out that the detention standards are very high. So that's just kind of a little bit of a warmup for you as you hear over the next few days. Like, Oh, this is awful. We're holding all these people down on alligator Alcatraz, inhumane, these are awful conditions. No, they're not. No, they're not.

As Tom Homan says, ICE is only responsible, only involved in the highest detention standards in the whole industry. They're not treating people inhumanely. But it is meant to send a clear message that the alligator Alcatraz thing, you're here illegally, you could be spending time with alligators. Just so you know, that message is out there.

Speaking of ICE and the ability for these guys to do their jobs, I continue to be horrified by how disgraceful the left has been towards our great ICE officers across the country, who are just trying to get illegal foreign nationals who've invaded our country out. It's as straightforward as imaginable. Every American should support these guys, stand shoulder to shoulder with them. Here's the ICE director Todd Lyons who was just on this program a short while ago. We talked to him and he was great. Here's what he said about the threats that agents and their families are facing right now. Cut for it. Take a look. Todd Lyons. My officers and agents are enforcing immigration law.

They are not secret police. They are not Nazis. But people hiding behind keyboards are demonizing them. They're docking them, stirring up anti-ice sediment and putting their lives and their family lives at risk. Because you guys are all about territory and this is 18th Street and this is Swordance and you this is Thornhancey. You guys tag everything up, claiming hood. And now that your hood's being invaded by the biggest gang there is,

they're gonna peep out of you. You can kill them. This isn't about social media clout anymore. This isn't about video. This isn't about the phone. This is about get a gun and start killing ICE agents. Wouldn't you wear a mask if you kept your family safe? If you kept your kids safe? We were in an operation with the Secret Service. We arrested someone that was going online,

taking their photos, posting their families, their kids' Instagram, their kids' Facebooks, and targeting them. So let me ask, is that the issue here that we're just upset about the masks? Or is anyone upset with the fact that ICE officers' families were labeled terrorists? Not sure how much clearer it could get. You see that crazy lady with the septum ring, the nose ring halfway through that video where she's saying that this is over,

we need to shoot these agents? That lady needs to be cuffed. I don't know her circumstances, but I hope she's in custody, that's crazy. And so she's calling for the death of these ICE agents. And she stands shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of lefties. We've had psychopath after psychopath among Democrat leadership, condemning ICE, calling them the Gestapo, calling them Nazis,

saying that these masks are designed for them to do something awful and they're making World War II analogies. It's utterly disgraceful. These ICE agents are putting their own lives on the line to restore order, and then they're putting their family's lives on the line if their identities get exposed and they get doxxed, which is exactly what's been happening. Exactly what's been happening.

So you get nose pierced, septum crazy people who are saying, yeah, we got to take out guns, we need to shoot these ICE officers, they're gonna get somebody killed, they're gonna get somebody killed. And when that happens, I asked Todd Lyons about this, I said, Are these guys gonna have blood on their hands? I mean, these Democrat leaders? And he said, Yes, they will. You know, that includes that includes people like Hakeem Jeffries, who's trying to unmask ICE agents and make their lives less safe. That includes people like Eric Swalwell, who's pulled the same garbage calling these guys

Nazis. That includes people like Michelle Wu, the mayor of Boston, Democrat, who says that these guys are like Nazis. That includes Tampon Tim Walls, who also said that ICE agents are like Nazis. This story just keeps happening. And I feel like I'm going crazy because we're one of the only places, and I know there's a lot of conservative media that's all over this too. So God bless everybody who's talking about this. These ICE agents deserve support.

And the people who are trying to compare them to Nazis, they deserve all the condemnation in the world. They will get an ICE officer killed. They're going to do it. And blood, as Todd Lyons has said, will be on their hands. Totally outrageous. And these guys should be supported. And in fact, one of the ways that they will be supported is through the passage of this big, beautiful bill. If and when this thing finally crosses the president's desk and gets a signature, it's gonna include a lot more funding for ICE. It's gonna include the hiring of 10,000 more reinforcements

for immigration and customs enforcement. And it's gonna meaningfully, meaningfully amp up the number of deportations that are happening here in the United States of America. These are all really, really important goals. These guys deserve backup and they shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit from Democrats. I mean, it is, it is beyond, it is beyond.

And every one of these guys should be faced with eternal shame for their behavior. It's it's too much. Um, okay. Coming up that big, beautiful bill. I've got updates on it overnight. The United States Senate has had a voter Rama on that. In fact, you know, not much has made it through the Voterama, you know, where these, all these senators,

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and hello, good morning chat on rumble.com slash Vince. You can watch the show live there each and every weekday. I did see Anita McGroin, if you could get that standing link reposted, pinned to the top again, Anita McGroin this morning does have this link that sends people to the Alligator Alcatraz review page. Apparently Google already has it, I think. And you can go and you can file your reviews. And obviously Lefties are going to go in there and try and destroy it.

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The best damn audience in media. Okay, five stars, McGrunt, thank you very much. Let me see. I've got some other items for you today. I've got the big, beautiful bill. As we're speaking live, there is still a votorama going on in the United States Senate. I've got, let me see. Forget it. I was going to show you. I have a random screen that shows me, but it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Anyway, the Voterama is going on in the United States Senate. So we've reached the phase where senators are providing all of these amendments that they'd like to add to the bill.

And overnight, let me just cut to the chase. Almost nothing actually made it into the bill, but there was, as an amendment, but there was one really big addition that I know a lot of people have been on guard for, and it's the following. Artificial intelligence was supposed to have basically a 10-year moratorium for state regulation. The way it was constructed in the bill was that the states couldn't regulate AI at all for 10 years in the bill was that the states couldn't regulate AI at all for 10 years in

the bill. And then what ended up happening was there was a lot of debate about this because people are like, well, wait a second, the states are the laboratories for democracy. The states are where you should be able to have these kinds of regulations closest to the citizens. They should be able to protect the people. And it shouldn't just be up to the federal government, which can get things can get very corrupt if it's just one power center and it's just the federal government and you get all the AI interests working hand in glove in Washington. And so legitimately a lot of concern about, okay, who gets to regulate this and at what level. Overnight last night, in a 99 to 1 vote, thank God, the Senate passed an amendment to strip the ban on AI regulations out of the legislation. In other words, there is no moratorium on state regulation

anymore in this legislation. It's been yanked at. Our friends at the Washington Times writing about this. The Senate early Tuesday voted to quash an effort to impose this 10-year moratorium on state regulation of AI. The vote removed the AI provision from the big, beautiful bill. And this was a very big deal. Marcia Blackburn was working on this, and Senator Ted Cruz was working on a compromise. In the end, they basically just stripped this out entirely. It passed 99 to one. Guess who was the only person to vote no on this?

Look at this. Senator Tom Tillis, North Carolina Republican, was the only Senator to vote no. The only one. What? So Tom Tillis, who was just forced into retirement this weekend by President Trump, with a grumpy protest vote,

trying to make it so that AI was only regulated at the federal and also most corrupt level. Yeah, there he is. Imagine, imagine Chuck Schumer being on the right side of this and then your Tom Tillis, Thumbelina, Thumbelina on the wrong side of this. There he is, Thumbelina voting against, against this trying to make it so that the states

can't regulate AI in the states. It is amazing. And if you look closely at this issue, there was all sorts of interesting allies here supporting state regulation being allowed to happen, including there's this website. I don't know if you use this for your kids at all. It's called Common Sense Media. If you've got kids, super helpful. I like this Common Sense Media website. And what it does is it lets you like check out like books and movies without even without

seeing them or reading them first. Then you go through and whatever material that parents might find objectionable or have concerns about they just give you this this update on like you know here's what's in it here's what you should be on guard for here's here are the words they use in the film it's super helpful if you especially if you have young kids they were against what the legislation was attempting to do before and now now this is much better. The states are going to be able to regulate, continue to regulate AI. So that was a big change overnight. You needed to know about that, wanted to share that with you.

Here's one that drove me crazy. Yesterday there was a vote that took place that was designed to block 1.4 million illegals from receiving Medicaid in the United States Senate. And Marsha Blackburn, there she is again, here she is cut five. She advanced this, she wanted to block illegals from having even a little bit of access to Medicaid. Too many illegals have been taking Medicaid funds

from American citizens. Marsha Blackburn tried to stop it, here she is. Millions of vulnerable Americans, including the disabled, elderly, and low-income children, depend on Medicaid for vital health care services. But waste, fraud, and abuse are pushing this program to the point of insolvency. According to one estimate, there were more than one trillion

in improper payments over the last decade. To protect Medicaid for those who truly need it, this corruption must end, including by removing the 1.4 million illegal aliens who are currently exploiting the program. My amendment would close a loophole that allows illegal aliens to receive Medicaid coverage for up to 90 days by blocking federal taxpayer dollars from funding benefits for prospective beneficiaries until their citizenship or lawful presence is verified. I urge a yes vote on this amendment and I ask for the yeas and nays.

Okay, so what you're hearing there I think is interesting for a number of reasons. One, Marsha Blackburn is describing how illegals are gaining access to Medicaid, including through like basically being given at the very least temporary benefits while they're in some sort of parole period to establish who they are and whether or not they're finally entitled to it. And she's saying, this is crazy. Why are we giving illegals at any point this type of coverage that really is for taxpayers and is being stolen for Americans,

is being stolen from those Americans and being given to illegal foreign nationals who have invaded our country? That's crazy. And so any Senator who actually loves this country and wants to uphold the rule of law would obviously support what Marsha Blackburn just put forward.

And yet that didn't happen. In fact, last night in this vote yesterday, there was a vote to block illegals from receiving Medicaid and it only received 56 votes. Now let me emphasize why this matters. It received 56 votes. The parliamentarian said it needed 60 because remember the Harry Reid parliamentarian is in charge of the Senate now, and no Republicans can do anything

about it. They can't stop her. They can override her. They can, but they refuse to. So 5644 was the vote. In other words, the Republicans supported this thing. They even got a couple of Democrats across the aisle to join them. And yet, no good. Republican Maine Senator Susan Collins was on the no side of the aisle.

Thanks a lot, Susan Collins. I don't know what's going on there. Maine's a beautiful state with a crazy Senator. So we get a no vote from her and then Democrats crossed the aisle in the other way. There were four Democrats who joined the Republicans to back the measure, including Senators Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, Raphael Warnock, and John Ossoff of Georgia. They were on the side of stopping illegals from taking Medicaid. And yet it doesn't pass.

So that's the news overnight from this Votorama that was taking place. Now it does look like in the end, they're probably gonna be able to get this through to the Senate. And everybody wants to get this, the president wants to get this all done by July 4th, Independence Day. That's this week.

In case you're paying attention. It's this week. It's got to happen quickly. What's going to happen here? Well, I'll get into that in a moment. Also, Elon Musk launching a fresh war against the president of the United States. He's upset about the big, beautiful bill. I'll explore exactly why in just a moment.

We're going to get there. We've also got our great guest coming up here in a few moments here. We're going to be talking to Nate Morris. He is a guy who's running for Senate in Kentucky. He wants to be the guy who replaces Mitch McConnell. I'm going to kick the tires a bit. We'll find out a little bit more about Nate Morris and why Kentuckians should support him for that seat that's ahead on this edition of Vince.

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we should bring in our guest right now. Nate Morris is an American businessman. He is a Kentucky guy. And now he's running for the United States Senate in Kentucky, hoping to replace Mitch McConnell, who just like the rest of us, Nate Morris is not very happy with. Nate Morris, it's great to have you here on the show, sir.

Thank you for doing this today. It's great to be with you. It's, it's, it's wild. So you just launched the campaign this past week. Lay out the, lay out the race for me here because it sounds like you're really one of three guys who's sort of jockeying for this seat. Tell me about the dynamics of this race

and why you stand out, why you should be the guy. Well, Vince, we announced last week on John Junior's podcast that I was gonna be getting in the race for the United States Senate here in Kentucky. And you know, Vince, that Mitch McConnell has been in this seat since 1985. I mean, think about that. That's a very, very long time.

And a lot of the challenges that we have in our country, running our country off a cliff, I attribute to the leadership of Mitch McConnell. I think that he's gotten it wrong over and over again, and we've seen him sabotage President Trump and his agenda. And as an outside business guy, I'm not a politician, Vince. I've never run for office. I've built very successful businesses, taking one of them public. And I said, look, if I don't get in this race, the people that are going to be running are two Mitch McConnell puppets. And we're going to have 40 more years of Mitch McConnell if I didn't get in.

And so without hesitation, I said, I've got to do this. I've got to jump in this race because if I don't, we're going to have more career politicians like Mitch. And these two guys in the race currently, Andy Barr and Daniel Cameron, they owe everything to Mitch McConnell. And so that to me was a signal that as an outsider and someone that cares about this country and that wants to change this country and wants to make sure that we can support President Trump and get his agenda done in Washington, we got to have people that are not career politicians. And so I was also proud, Vince, yesterday,

Charlie Perk came to town through the Turning Point Network and we had a terrific rally. Over a thousand patriots showed up and Charlie was gracious enough to endorse our campaign. So we're off to a heck of a start and I'm very excited about the conversations we're going to be having, what we're going to be sharing with Kentucky. I love it. Okay, so you and I have met before and when we first met I asked you a couple of threshold questions. I'll ask them now because I want the audience to get a feel for this. Let me start with something very simple. What do you think about the United States in the And when we first met, I asked you a couple of threshold questions. I'll ask them now because I want the audience to get a feel for this.

Let me start with something very simple. What's what do you think about the United States in the war in Ukraine and our role there? Well, Vince, I think it's been an absolute disgrace that we backed up the truck for people like Zelensky and his cronies. We have no idea where a lot of that money is gone. And, you know, you've seen all these crazy reports about how rich Ukraine has gotten because of this war. And it's absolutely disgusting to me that we've got people starving to death here in America, and we're more worried

about the Ukraine than we are our own people. And I think these foreign wars have been a mistake in many cases. I mean, we're the generation that's dealt with the Iraq war. Look at that as another example. We've got generations of veterans and their families that have been scarred by war we should have never been in. And I think Ukraine, remember, Mitch McConnell has said this is going to be one of his greatest legacies, the war in Ukraine and what he did. And I think that he gave Joe Biden part blanche to do whatever he wanted, give Ukraine as much money as possible, no checks and balances, no terms of engagement,

no roadmap for success. And it's been a complete disaster. And look, when I get in the United States Senate, one of the first things I'll do is make sure that we don't send a dollar to Ukraine going forward. Okay, let's move to another issue where Mitch has been weak, China. I'll do is make sure that we don't send a dollar to Ukraine going forward. Okay. Let's move to another issue where Mitch has been weak China. Uh, what do you, how do you consider our relationship with China and how do we

navigate going forward with a country that is clearly our chief adversary? Look, there's no question. And a place like Kentucky, um, and, and Vince, I think I shared this when we met, you know, 19 of my family members worked in an auto plant in Kentucky. And we lived by American manufacturing. And our way of life was predicated on what we could build and what we could manufacture here in this country. And we've seen things like NAFTA completely hollow out parts of the United States, particularly Kentucky. And I think that's no different than what we've done with China. We built China's economy by sending our jobs over there and hurting working class Americans when we

should be protecting their jobs and doing everything we can to manufacture in this country. And look, I think China's made it very, very clear that they're at war with the United States, whether they say it or not, their actions and the way that they've engaged with the United States, they're at war with us. And they've been at war with us for a very long time. And to think otherwise would be to be naive

about the issue. So we've got to get very, very tough with China in all facets of the way that we engage with them, particularly our economy. But look, places like Kentucky, we've been hit hard by outsourcing all of our factories to places like China. And we're paying a big price for generational events. I mean, we've got generations of Kentuckians that have been out of work because the elites said, hey, we can make a quick buck by sending the factories over there.

We can squeeze out as much profit as we can. And you know what, they move on to another CEO or they move on to another person who's running the company and they don't care about the working people in Kentucky. And I think we gotta get real tough with China. We gotta figure out a way to get those jobs back. And we've gotta know that we're at war with China and that they're our greatest adversary. And we've got to do everything we can to protect our people.

Amen. I love that. Let's take a step back, if I could, Nate Morrison, talk about your biography. One of the things I've heard is some comparisons between you and the Vice President, JD Vance, kind of your upbringings and how you basically started from small beginnings and were able to have the success you've had in your life as a businessman. And also I understand that you know JD,

this is a guy that you're friends with. Tell me a little bit about all of that. Yeah, Vince, well, I take that as a huge compliment. I'm a huge fan of our Vice President and he's been a great buddy of mine. And he's been very encouraging, obviously, about giving back and serving our country. JD's an outsider, he's not a career politician. And that's been very inspiring to me to watch. And we have very

similar backgrounds. I grew up single parent household, just me and my mom. I was estranged from my dad most of my life. My dad got locked up for not paying child support. My mom was on food stamps. I've had a lot of the tough, hard times that most Kentuckians have, and a lot of the challenges that Kentuckians have. And Vince, nobody gave me anything like most Kentuckians.

I've been fighting and scrapping for everything that I have. And I come out of a family of auto workers. And when things like NAFTA happened, it impacted our family. We knew people that lost their job because of NAFTA. And we relied on a manufacturing economy to live the American dream. And I think we got to bring that back. But I went to public schools my whole life, ended up getting scholarships. I got a really good education. And Vince, I started a business with about $10,000 on a credit card in the

trash business. And Vince, I'm sure you're a fan of the Sopranos, you know, the trash business, as you know, from the Sopranos is a very rough industry, not the nicest people in the world to deal with. But I said, look, Vince, we could disrupt and change this industry, not the nicest people in the world to deal with. But I said, look, Vince, we could disrupt and change this industry, take it on. And that's what most people don't know about the trash business. This is an industry controlled by Bill Gates. Bill Gates is the largest shareholder of trash stocks on Wall Street. So when you're trying to disrupt and take on the machine and the waste industry, you're taking on Bill Gates and his financial power. So that was a great training ground, I believe,

as an entrepreneur to take that business from $10,000 to go public at two billion on the New York Stock Exchange. And I wanna take a lot of those lessons, being a disruptor, being an outsider, challenging the status quo, and take those to Washington, D.C. as a United States senator. Right on. And thank you. You know what I like about you? You stereotyped me instantly.

You're like, that guy's name is Vince. Of course, you like that. That's not you. You can't be ashamed. It's a good thing we're on a Republican show. I mean, it's you know, the left cut me off when I said that. So you're right, though. I like the sopranos. That's good. That's really funny. OK, so look, you're right though. I like the Sopranos. That's good. That's really funny. Um, okay.

So, uh, look, you're, you're running against the McConnell machine. Uh, isn't it kind of weird that McConnell has two candidates? How does that work? They don't usually just pick one. Uh, so how does McConnell have two candidates who are running against you in this Senate race in Kentucky? Look, it's a very good point. And look, McConnell has built a machine in Kentucky, a money machine, a political machine,

and they want control. They want power. And I think a lot of the people, Vince, that have been enriched by McConnell for generations, these are the operatives, the lobbyists, the people that have made all their money because Mitch McConnell has been in power, they want wanna make sure that they've got a person, a guy in the Senate, that they can keep making money from. And so they've got two candidates in the race right now, just to hedge bets and make sure that they've got

a horse to ride to Washington. And I said, look, that's absolutely crazy. We can't have that. We need a clean break from Mitch and we need a clean break from Mitch and we need a clean break from machine politics. We need people that don't need the job, that don't need the money. Mitch McConnell, I read the other day, he made about almost $2 million on his stocks this last month. Mitch McConnell probably should have went to Wall Street. He's such a great stock picker

like Nancy Pelosi. I don't know how these guys make all this money, but we've got to get people- Listen, aren't he and his wife, wait, aren't he and his wife government officials? How did that happen? How did that happen exactly? Two million dollars in a month? Look, Vince, it's a big mystery to me.

And I think we need people occupying the office that don't make this a career, that want to serve. And again, I've been inspired by President Trump. He was the ultimate outsider. He didn't need the money. He didn't need all the prestige of the office. And just like JD. And I think we need more of that kind of leader

going to Washington. And look, I'm gonna be up against the machine vets. They're gonna come after me. Mitch McConnell would famously say, if someone throws a pedal at me, I'm gonna throw a boulder back. They've already tried to smear me. They've already tried to say everything about me they could.

Right when we got out of the gate, I mean, you should see the text messages that were lighting up, all the things that were going around social media. And look, I think Kentuckians, especially our base, the Trump base, look, they know that this stuff is nonsense. They saw this with President Trump. And the fact that they're going so crazy tells you everything you need to know about our candidacy, that we are the true outsider,

and we're a threat to the establishment. Okay, Ken, I'm gonna ask you about some of these attacks, though, that you brought up, because I saw Daniel Cameron is attacking you already, instantly, sees you as a threat here. And so let me run this down with you and you because you're gonna be asked about this somewhere else.

I'm gonna ask you first, Council on Foreign Relations, you went to Davos, you received the World Economic Forum Award. Can you square all that up for us? What does that mean as Daniel Cameron launches these attacks on you? Well, first off, I've denounced all those groups. And I would say to my opponents, why don't you denounce Mitch McConnell?

And they will not do it. And I've never been to Davos, Vince. Oh, really? I've never been to Davos. And, you know, they throw those awards around. When you reach a certain level of success in business, they give you these things. I mean, this happened to Vivek, this happened to Ewan, Ivanka Trump, all these folks. Davos gives you these awards, even if you go or not. And I never went to Davos. So all that stuff is crazy that they try to go there. But I think it's also a sign of my success in many

ways. And look, what I figured out about a lot of these elite groups is when you reach a certain level of success, they try to get their hooks in you. And I never went to any of that stuff. And I denounced it and I think it's complete nonsense. And it's something that we've got to fight against their agendas. I have an idea for you.

Maybe you'll do it. If you become the United States Senator from Kentucky, you should go to Davos and then condemn globalism. You should make that, like, that would be a fun commitment, wouldn't it? So like, if you're going to go, do it the right way, go and just condemn

globalism and stand up for the country. And Vince, you may remember, I mean, President Trump went to Davos and did just that in his first term and obviously spoke to Davos, you know, a couple months ago, but I'd be happy to. And look, I think globalism has been the biggest challenge to our country, whether it be hollowing out our manufacturing base, whether it be taking away our American jobs, letting people just run wild through our borders. And Vets, I don't know if you saw this just a couple of days ago, but I

called for a full moratorium on any new immigration coming into our country until we deport every single one of Joe Biden's 20 million illegals that have invaded our country. And so we got to get really serious about this because globalism is not Americanism and globalism has almost cost us our country but we're going to get it back and I believe we know the path back to American sovereignty and back to America winning first and foremost because at the end of the day that's we got to take care of our own period. Yeah amen to that okay so what comes next for you obviously at the gate

you're doing you do doing media like this, you're making a name for yourself, and clearly, people in Kentucky are very quickly becoming acquainted with who you are. Tell me about the chances that the president gets on board with your campaign. Is there a chance here where the president, President Trump, links up with you and says,

"'This is my guy.'" Look, we would be honored for the president, um, to, to endorse us at some point, but the president does exactly what he wants to do when he wants to do it. And, uh, that's his decision whenever he wants to make it, we're going to run a great campaign. We're going to run an America first campaign. And we're going to be 100 percent

aligned with President Trump. And we're going to continue to push the MAGA agenda so he could be successful here in the grassroots and on the ground in Kentucky. And President Trump has iconic status in Kentucky. That you may know, he carried the state by 30 points here. And so we're proud to stand with him. And I think the people that we have surrounding us, you know, announcing on his son show and going on

band and over the weekend and having Charlie Kirk come in and endorse us. I think these are all signs of what we believe, where we stand and that we're with the MAGA movement. Okay. And finally, if if you're elected, it sounds to me like you're going to be a bit of a sea change from what we normally get out of Kentucky politics, which I think is confusing to the rest of the country, because the US senators we have right now are Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. And then you have Thomas Massey, and Rand and Massey have been, well, to put it lightly, kind of a thorn in the side of the Trump agenda in many regards.

You know, what's going to distinguish your candidates here in Kentucky and what is even happening in Kentucky? Is it the bourbon? I love bourbon and it hasn't made me into Thomas Massey yet. Well, I'm glad to hear that, Vince, and you're always welcome to come here. I'd love to give you some tours of some of our great distilleries because we got some great ones, the best ones. Look, I think we all need to support the president. I think that's the bottom line. Look, the people in Kentucky spoke with their vote and they spoke

for Trump and they spoke for the Trump agenda. And I think people that get elected, we got to stand with the president because that's what their constituents voted for. And we have to remember that right now. And what we don't want is to squander any of our political capital. We wanna make every piece of legislation, whatever legislation that is, as conservative as possible. But at some point, we also have to find success as well

and make sure that we win. And we have to find a way to win for the president and his agenda. And look, that's what I'm going to be focused on. And there's a lot of noise and a lot of things going on. But look, at the end of the day, we've got a clear path to victory and we got to take it. I love it. All right. Well, Nate Morris, really appreciate you for coming on today. Congratulations on announcing this candidacy. Not gonna be easy, but I have a feeling that you like challenges.

Thank you, Nate. Really good to talk to you today, and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you, Vance. Great to be with you. Nice to chat with you. All right, there he is, Nate Morris, now running for Senate in Kentucky

and trying to replace the retiring Mitch McConnell. And in case you were wondering, yes, Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate, still causing trouble there, but eventually that'll be gone. And Nate Morris is hoping to win next year, 2026. So we've got a very interesting race on our hands there. Okay, let me get to what else is happening in the United States Senate right now

with the big, beautiful bill. Now it is on the verge of passing the Senate. There's some vote wrangling going on, leadership trying to convince a couple of holdouts to get on board. I know Lisa Murkowski up in Alaska has been a bit of a difficult vote because she's looking specifically for some Medicaid money for the people of Alaska. But they'll get it all sorted out in the end. Now, if and when this thing passes, Elon Musk is already saying that he is infuriated by it. And at this point, he's now threatening a third party run.

Take a look at this post on X, which used to be Twitter, but Elon bought it and he made it X. He said, if this insane spending bill passes, the America party will be formed the next day. Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a voice. Now, I want to just really dwell for just a moment on what this means. If Elon were to successfully launch a third party and to get it to the point that it had some meaningful threshold of votes, in other words, its candidates were appearing on ballots and taking votes from the competition, the effect of this, at least in the short term, is going to be to give the Democrats

an inordinate amount of power at the worst possible time. You can rightly have the criticism, as I do, that these parties far too often have worked in concert on all sorts of consequential issues that work against the United States of America. That's true. They have. But you have to go to war with the army you have. And right now, to the extent that we have any army, it's found within the Republican Party, not in the Democrats. And if you are to water down Republican Party votes with a third party gambit,

Republican party votes with a third party gambit, you are dooming us to Democrat leadership. You're dooming us to this. Elon Musk has previously floated this idea that maybe it'd be a good idea to do a third party operation. And previously people have pointed out to him, you realize all that's gonna happen is you're gonna end up with more tyranny

because Democrats win. This is from, if you go back to earlier this year, June 7th of this year, Elon tweeted out the following, just take a look at this. He wrote, is it time to create a new political party in America that represents the 80% in the middle? And some dude on X responded, named Roman Helmet Guy. He wrote, one, Elon starts a new political party.

Two, he gets 20% of the vote, three, it's mostly from former Republicans, four, Democrats win a super majority, and then five, Democrats throw Elon in prison. And Elon responded, yeah, pretty much, with crying, laughing emojis. Elon knew then, he should know now. He should know now.

Now, let me also point out what Elon may hate about the big, beautiful bill. It can't all be spending that's his concern. In fact, the president of the United States sort of has his number here, and he posted to Truth Social in the wake of Elon's complaints that the reason Elon is so unhappy about all of this

is because the president is removing the EV mandate from the law. The president said the following, "'Elon Musk knew long before he so strongly endorsed me for president that I was strongly against the electric vehicle mandate. It is ridiculous and was always a major part of my campaign. Electric cars are fine.

They're fine. But not everyone should be forced to own one. Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history by far. And without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back to South Africa, the president said. No more rocket launches, satellites,

or electric car production. And our country would save a fortune. Perhaps we should have Doge take a good hard look at this. Big money to be saved? So the president is now floating, maybe we Doge Elon. Maybe we make the government more efficient by giving Elon fewer taxpayer benefits, less taxpayer assistance.

Now, Elon, to his credit, he's taken government loans and then he paid them back early to make sure that he was no longer on the hook to American taxpayers. But over the course of Elon's political career, over the course of his business career specifically, which has become political, he has taken tens of billions of dollars,

by some estimates, $34 billion of support from American taxpayers. So has Elon benefited from government spending? Yeah, unquestionably. There really is no question. The generosity of the American taxpayer has supported Elon Musk and his ability to be a legal immigrant to the United States, become a U.S. citizen here, to thrive and to become one of, if not the richest human being on

planet earth. Yes, Elon has benefited immensely. And right now the president of the United States is fighting for the passage of a big, beautiful bill whose effects include getting a permanent tax cut for Americans instead of giving them a tax hike of 22% come January. You don't want that. None of us do. The president's fighting to stop that. Democrats fighting to raise your taxes on average 22%. The president passing no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax for 88% of Social Security recipients. By the way, that's the number. 88% of social security recipients are not going to have to pay a single dime of federal tax on their social security benefits. That's what this legislation achieves.

And so that's all in place. And then you get the other component of this, which is deporting all of the invaders, getting them out of the country and building the border barriers that are necessary to protect a sovereign country. That's what this package does. Right now, it's being hotly debated in the United States Senate. We're in the final stages ahead of its passage, and the President is eager to sign this thing for Independence Day.

There is no question Elon Musk has done good things for this country, from the businesses that he's built, including with taxpayer support, to the purchase of X at a critical moment when the left was trying to rig the entire conversation going into the 2024 election, Elon Musk helped to prevent that. And for that, I will forever be grateful. But right now, for him to go to war against the president, for defending the country that welcomed Elon Musk with open arms, that's absurd. That's absurd.

And I'd like to see these guys get back together to stand shoulder to shoulder, to continue to fight for the country, because that's the most important thing. We live in a great country. This week we celebrate his 249th birthday, and I can't wait for 250, baby. We're coming up on it. We're coming a great country. This week we celebrate his 249th birthday. And I can't wait for 250 baby. We're coming up on it. We're coming up on it. Oh, by the way, speaking of July 4th, you know what the president's doing?

He is honoring the B-2 stealth bombers at the White House who just conducted that mission in Iran. They're going to be with him at the White House and over the White House. They're doing a flyover of a B-2 stealth bomber. they're doing F-22s, they're doing F-35s. Again, you tell me, is this or is this not a president who loves this country? He clearly does. I do too, and I know you do too,

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