The Dan Bongino Show - Another Debate Disaster for the Democrats (Ep 1089)

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

In this episode, I address the total disaster for the Democrats last night during the CNN debate.  News Picks:Nancy Pelosi blinks, she will NOT hold a vote on impeachment.    Cowardly CNN gives ...Biden a pass on his family’s shady Ukraine dealings.   Elizabeth Warren is lying to you about tax hikes.   Elizabeth Warren is lying about how much the wealthy pay in taxes.   Liberals are lying. The wealthy pay the overwhelming majority of taxes.   Bernie and AOC keep blaming capitalism for problems caused by the government.   The NY Times is wrong. The rich pay more in taxes than liberals are claiming.    Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 What? What was that? What was that? The CNN debate last night? No, I'm not talking about the National St. Louis Cardinals game. Sweep. Congrats, Washington Nationals, by the way. What was that?
Starting point is 00:01:06 So we're going to frame it up for you today. As Joe says, he wants our new motto to be everything you need to know in an hour on this show. And I like it. I am going to frame up for you what happened in yesterday's debate debacle. And believe me, it was a debacle. I've got the lowlights because there are no highlights. And we're going to frame it as losers from last night's debate and bigger losers because there were no winners.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Producer Joseph Armacost, how are you today, sir? Well, I'm doing all right. You're right. Last night was nothing but a lie fest, you know? Oh my gosh. I mean, just the clips we have today are priceless and i also have i'm hoping to get to it today at the end of the show a stunner stunner from the mike flynn the former trump national security advisor judicial proceeding from his lawyer believe me i am not overselling it when i tell you a stunner from that case. Stay tuned. All right, let's get to it. Today's show brought to you by our buddies at ExpressVPN. We love ExpressVPN.
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Starting point is 00:03:58 elizabeth warren at this point who just remember this is losers and bigger losers there were no winners last night's debate maybe trump um as someone else said maybe michael bloomberg was thinking about jumping back in the race because the portfolio of options they had last night the democrats were just horrendous um yeah so here's yeah it was bad right you watched some of it i know and you got to see the clips this morning so let's start out with this clip from elizabeth warren i'll set it up first the moderator of the debate is from the CNN and New York Times, so fake news specialist, appropriate for a Democrat debate,
Starting point is 00:04:29 by the way. They're experts in fake news. They go out there and they ask her a question about her Medicare for All plan, which is basically Medicare for None and a big government-run health care plan
Starting point is 00:04:40 estimated to cost $32 trillion over 10 years that Elizabeth Warren wants to implement. Long and short of it is the moderator says, listen, Liz, you're threatening America with a government takeover. I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:55 You're threatening America with a government takeover of the healthcare system. It's going to cost $32 trillion. Can you just be honest and tell us our taxes are all going to go up to pay for this disaster? I want you to listen to her answer. This is a, I'm going to get this second clip on this in a second, but listen to her answer. She absolutely refuses to answer the question about you, your taxes. Check this out. I have made clear what my principles are here. And that is costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations and for hardworking middle class families costs
Starting point is 00:05:26 will go down uh you know the way i see this is i have been out all around this country i've done 140 town halls now been to 27 states in puerto rico should have done 70 000 selfies which must be the new measure of democracy and this gives people a chance to come up and talk to me directly. So I've talked with the family, the mom and dad, whose daughter's been diagnosed with cancer. Joe, did you see the stunt? Stunt. When I was a kid, I had this friend, Andy Bayer.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Me and this guy were best buds for a long time. And he used to call everything stunts. Did you see the stunt? Like it meant like a trick or a scam you pulled. Me and this guy were best buds for a long time. And he used to call everything stunts. You see the stunt? Like it meant like a trick or a scam you pulled. It wasn't a stunt like a Jackie Chan stunt. Did you see the stunt, the scam, the trick she pulls there? She does what liberals always do.
Starting point is 00:06:17 She's asked a direct question. I will rephrase the question she was asked. You're asking for a government takeover running on this of the healthcare system system are our taxes going to go up middle class taxpayers yes she's asked a yes or no question right she does one thing first she changes it to a story and makes it an emotional rather than a fact-based question the question is a question of fact is it not joe as the audience on buds member gonna need you today oh yes brother yeah it is a simple question of fact is it not joe as the audience on budsman we're gonna need you today oh yes brother you got it is a simple question of fact a will taxes go up for the middle class b will they not or c i don't want to answer she picks option c and starts telling him i met this lady out there with cancer listen no doubtedly a horrible story we've had health issues in my
Starting point is 00:07:01 family still do had health care is expensive precisely because of the government involvement. But folks, it's a yes or no question. Now, when we get to fraudulent Bernie Sanders later, at least Bernie tells the truth and says, yes, yes, your taxes will go up. Warren will not answer the question. She starts telling an emotional story about women she met with cancer. Horrible. But they are not related to the question she's asking, other than they're about health care.
Starting point is 00:07:32 She's asked a question about taxes. That's trick. That's stunt number one, the Andy Bayer stunt. But, you know, number two, what she does is she completely divorces herself from basic economic theory. Folks, I brought this up for a lot of you older listeners. You've heard this before, but the principle of Pareto maximization. I don't want to get into a big economics lecture today, but it's very simple. Pareto maximization means this, a decent measure of the effectiveness of a government policy, i.e. the takeover of the entire healthcare system. A measure of the effectiveness of that policy, i.e. the takeover of the entire healthcare system, a measure of the
Starting point is 00:08:05 effectiveness of that policy, Joe, would be, does it make at least one person better without making anyone else worse? Anyone else. It's more complicated, but that's a general takeaway from what they call Pareto optimization. Notice how she completely leaves that part out. Not Pareto, but even the general idea, is this going to make us better? Is it even going to make one person better without making anyone else worse? Now, I have no doubt that free, in other words, taxpayer-funded government benefits for people all over the world, including their health care payments, will make a few people better off. The question Warren always, Sanders doesn't avoid that. He just lies about it.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He insists it's going to make everybody better off. The question Warren avoids is how many people will this make worse off? And the answer is potentially hundreds of millions Pareto don't ever forget the Pareto principle I don't want any government policy that that doesn't meet that basic criteria does it help at least one person without hurting anybody else that's simple right Elizabeth Warren no all right let's go to Warren cut number two. This is the same Q&A with the moderator, the same question. Yes or no, are taxes going to go up? We took two cuts from this. It was very long, so Joe is good at cutting stuff up to not bore you with Elizabeth Warren for more than a minute straight. You may go to sleep. Thank you. Here's
Starting point is 00:09:41 the second part of our answer where she's questioned again. Listen, Liz, are taxes going up or what? Get to the point. Check this out. Senator Sanders acknowledges he's going to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for Medicare for all. You've endorsed his plan. Should you acknowledge it, too? So the way I see this, it is about what kinds of costs middle class families are going to face. So let me be clear on this. Costs will go up for the wealthy. They will go up for big corporations and for middle class families. They will go down.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I will not sign a bill into law that does not lower costs for middle class families. law that does not lower costs for middle-class families. Folks, you know, I know in politics, you're not supposed to say, hey, they're lying. You're supposed to use these, you know, euphemisms. She's using misdirection. She's not exactly being truthful. She's being calculated. She's lying she's lying the data supports nothing she says so just to be clear joe on part two of that question she again does not answer the she doesn't answer the question oh let me be she's getting up let me be clear she's trying like the burning rat she goes costs will go down for we didn't ask you about costs. We asked you about taxes. Nobody asked you about costs.
Starting point is 00:11:08 The question, Joe, which we heard, we put the question in that time. Joe wants me to get away from, he wants me to set up the question rather than let the moderator, which I think is right, shortens the clips. But this one's important. Yeah, because the moderator clearly himself is frustrated that Warren won't answer a simple question. Our middle class tax is going, let me tell you about costs. I didn't ask about costs. I asked you about taxes, taxes. She still doesn't answer it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So you may say, well, Dan, did she make a point even though she didn't answer the tax question, which she didn't. answer the tax question, which she didn't. If taxes do go up, but healthcare costs for America go down, even though Warren didn't exactly answer the question, technically, Joe, she would be right. Correct? In other words, Joe, if your tax bill goes up, say $5,000 a year, but your Medicare, excuse me, you're not a Medicare, but your whatever, your health care costs go down by $6,000, then Joe's better off. He's paying $5,000 for a $6,000 benefit. Simple question, right? Well, thankfully, you came to the Dan Bongino Show where Joe, again, loves to lie.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Everything you need to know in an hour. That is categorically false. Let's go to our friends over at the Washington Examiner, which analyzes this very question. Will America's healthcare costs go down even if their taxes go up? Philip Klein, opinion. Elizabeth Warren's stubborn dishonesty on raising middle-class taxes.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Folks, please read the show notes today. These articles will be in the show notes. I have a bunch of stuff on liberal lies, on taxes, on healthcare, everything. A bunch of data you're going to need. We'll get to more of it throughout the show. She is lying. Remember the old ducktales, Scrooge McDuck, the harp?
Starting point is 00:12:51 You are lying, lying. Here's the nose. My nose has been broken so many times, it can't grow anymore. Here's the side profile. The nose for Elizabeth Warren is growing. She's not telling you the truth. Let's go to takeaway number
Starting point is 00:13:05 one from the Washington Examiner piece, which shows taxes and costs will go up. So Elizabeth Warren's giving you a twofer, folks. She's increasing your taxes and your health care costs with her government takeover from the piece. And I quote, even looking at things on a net trade-off basis, however, Warren's numbers don't add up. An analysis of the 2016 Sanders campaign proposal, in other words, the healthcare proposal Elizabeth Warren's endorsing by Bernie Sanders from the liberal Joe Urban Institute, took into account that much of the $32 trillion price tag for Warren and Sanders' government takeover would result from the federal government absorbing many costs currently paid by states in the private sector.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Ah, there's a but, Ski. Oh. But the analysis still found that the plan would increase overall health spending in the U.S. by $6.6 trillion over a decade. Whoa. The verdict is in folks. Elizabeth Warren's full of crap. Your taxes are going to go up and your costs are going to go up.
Starting point is 00:14:16 What did someone say? It was a joke of Lyndon Johnson. I think said it. He goes, man, I need to get my, my, my,
Starting point is 00:14:22 my hands on a one handed economist because everybody kept coming in and telling him on one hand this and on the other hand. Cut one of those hands off. You got no prize. No other hand. There's no other hand. She's just making it up. Your taxes up.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Your health care costs up, up, up. You need visuals? For those of you watching on YouTube, up, up, up, up. Nothing she's telling you is true. You're going to get a big fat, juicy tax bill and an even bigger, fatter health care bill. Nothing she's telling you is true. Nothing. I thought the government was paying for it.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, they said that with Medicare, too. Now you got Medicare Part A, Part B, Part C, Part D, Part X, supplemental Medicare, supplemental, supplemental Medicare, triple supplemental for supplements to pay the supplement that the supplement didn't get, the co-pay supplement supplement, the medication drug supplement vis-a-vis supplement supplement supplement, and you got insurance for the supplement. You really believe this is going to work? Listen, when I was a kid, I got great advice.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Don't be an imbecile. Don't be an imbecile. This is not going to work. Nobody, the liberals, their own think tanks are saying, maybe this isn't such a good idea. Warren is lying. Now, I've got more on this throughout the show. Gosh, that was 15 minutes on.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I could go all day on this alone because I'm so fascinated by how people keep falling for these sucker ideas that the government's going to fix your healthcare. Fix your healthcare? The government couldn't even open up a website for Obamacare. My wife could have done their website. She's a web designer.
Starting point is 00:16:07 The government can't even manage poverty programs. The government's an expert at creating poverty. That's what they do, do poverty programs. They're great entrepreneurs for poverty. No one creates poverty better than California and liberal federal government programs. Nobody. They're experts at it, Joe. They are the apple of poverty creation. And you want them to take over your health care system? They've already bankrupted Medicare. But we paid in. You did pay in.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And they flushed it down the toilet. I'm sorry. All right. Let's go to our second sponsor before I move on. Because I got a Bernie biggest fraud up there, Bernie. Sometimes he tells the truth about how bad his programs are. And other times he's just a complete, total, epic level fraud. I'll get to that in a second. Second sponsor today is GenuCell. GenuCell, we love GenuCell. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a big popular product in our house.
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Starting point is 00:18:32 sailing around the ocean bernie would be like the captain ahab of that ship i mean this guy is the biggest fraud up there uh i get a kick out of bernie uh we haven't done a lot of bernie stuff in a while due to all the breaking news, of course, with Spygate and the fake whistleblower story and all that stuff. But let's get right to it. Here's a video last night of the Democrat debate debacle last night.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Bernie Sanders, total fraud. Again, ripping on millionaires. He is a millionaire. Keep that in mind. This guy's a total epic fraud of colossal tier one level proportions right and falsely claiming again about the rich and what their their first year is he's just making this up check this out when you have 87 people 87 million people uninsured or underinsured when you got hundreds of thousands
Starting point is 00:19:21 of kids who cannot afford to go to college and millions struggling with the oppressive burden of student debt. And then you also have three people owning more wealth than the bottom half of American society. That is a moral and economic outrage. And the truth is, we cannot afford to continue this level of income and wealth inequality. And we cannot afford a billionaire class whose greed and corruption has been at war with the working families of this country for 45 years. So if you're asking me, do I think we should demand that the wealthy start paying the wealthiest top one tenth of one percent, start paying their fair share of taxes so we can create a nation and a government that works for all of us? Yes, that's exactly what I believe.
Starting point is 00:20:19 OK. Is that a joke? I listen to me. These billionaire billionaire these millionaires and billionaires they do not pay their fair share um bernie the top 20 percent of earners pay 80 percent of tech that doesn't matter we are talking about bulge we are not talking about facts bernie you are a millionaire that doesn't matter either. The other millionaires are bad. I'm the good millionaire.
Starting point is 00:20:49 But you just categorically stated millionaires and billionaires are greedy. I'm not greedy. I meet every other millionaire, not this millionaire. What has two thumbs is a millionaire and is not greedy. This guy here, Bernie Sanders, I am not greedy. But you've never met those other billionaires. I haven't met them, but they're a group of mmholes. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:21:12 It's me. I am at the top of the totem pole on the moral high ground of millionaires. Folks, this cat doesn't pay a cent extra in taxes. He's a millionaire. How much, does that not bother you if you support this guy listen you may not like trump but trump has never run from his wealth and attacked millionaires and billionaires he's like i love it right joe we've laughed about this before how trump when he talks about his wealth he's like yeah when he goes up on the stage he goes and my apartment's bigger than all these guys. I got a nicer apartment
Starting point is 00:21:46 than all of them. I love that. I'm like, great, good for you. This guy's a fraud. Listen, I'm going to get to exhaustively why he's lying about who pays the taxes on this company.
Starting point is 00:21:55 We all know he's lying. They don't pay the fair share. That's crap. I'm going to get to that in a second. I want to get to Elizabeth Warren first, but before we move on
Starting point is 00:22:03 to Elizabeth Warren, again, Matt Palumbo, I want to recite this piece because it's a very, very good one. He is my resident fact checker at Bongino.com. He has a section on our website called Debunk This, and he has an awesome book called Debunk This Too, available now, that exhaustively covers every liberal lie you've ever seen. You can check that out on Amazon, Barnes & Noble. You guys made it a bestseller. He wrote a piece, which again, will be in today's show notes. Now, it's about AOC, but I want to point out again by these takeaways how it relates.
Starting point is 00:22:37 The piece is titled, AOC Blames Capitalism for Government-Created Problems. If you just click on newsletter on Bongino.com, you can subscribe to our newsletter. We'll send you these articles every day. Why am I bringing this piece up from Matt? Well, he has two takeaways that apply to Bernie's nonsense in that video. Bernie says, well, listen, when kids can't afford to go to college, he blames it on billionaires. As if billionaires, Joe, who, by the way, most of them who donate money to education causes others,
Starting point is 00:23:02 as if they're the cause of rising tuition costs. Yeah. Secondly, he brings up homelessness when you're sleeping on the street as if billionaires are kicking people out of their houses. What I find odd, Joe, is Bernie brings up two problems that, and I couldn't have predicted this when Matt wrote the piece, that Matt covers in this AOC piece that are government problems. Folks, on a very serious note, one of the things that made
Starting point is 00:23:26 me a strong conservative is I was an independent in college. I think I was registered independent for 15 years or so, for a long time. I'm not sure how long. I should probably fact check myself, but I was a registered independent for a long time. In college, I was never a liberal, but I believe some of this stuff. Like, gosh, there are all these greedy billionaires and they're the cause of problems. Listen, I have no doubt that there are billionaires and millionaires who are greedy. But the problems in our society, when I found out, are largely caused not by millionaires and billionaires, but by the government itself. Folks, I'm not kidding when I tell you it was a transformative road to Damascus moment.
Starting point is 00:24:06 There's a line that there are two kinds of people who see the world differently than everyone else, the super rich and the super political. They don't see the world like anybody else. The super rich because they don't need anything. Money means nothing. Nobody sees the world like that but them. The super political because you've seen the wizard. You've pulled back the curtain and you know everything you've been told is BS. You can't unsee that wizard when you find out that almost every single systemic nationwide global problem we have now, nearly every single one can be blamed on central planners and big government. Now, from Matt's piece, remember, Bernie's claiming billionaires are the cost of student
Starting point is 00:24:53 loan, the student loan crisis, and people not being able to afford college. Right. Well, Palumbo's piece systemically dismantles all of this nonsense. From the piece, the federal government, Joe, began subsidizing tuition as early as 1965, but it was the 1978, remember that date, Middle Income Student Assistance Act, which expanded government subsidies from the poor to the middle class
Starting point is 00:25:18 that marked a turning point in college costs. Since 1978, college costs have increased 1,225 percent while inflation has increased 279 so let's be clear oh government intervenes in 1978 says we're gonna fix this college loan problem we're gonna start running subsidy programs and regulate the whole thing to give people more money give people more money. Give people more money. Shockingly, they spend it. So do colleges that are the recipients, the end recipients of that money. What happens?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Government assistance, again, folks, up. Costs up more. This is not hard. Shaggy. This is not even Scooby gets it. This isn't hard. You track government intervention in the college loan market up. Try to follow, Joe. Costs up.
Starting point is 00:26:17 This is not complicated. Yes, even Joe gets it. This is not hard. But Bernie, remember the flipperoo? Yeah. You know, whenever we have to call a dipsy-do flipperoo, perk up your antenna, she'll go, the dipsy-do flipperoo. You like that girl?
Starting point is 00:26:35 You like her a lot? You know, she doesn't like you. You break up with her. All of a sudden, she likes you. Vice versa. Happened to me once with a girlfriend. I didn't like her that much. She dumped me.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I was like, oh, my gosh, I really like her. It's the flip-a-roo. The dipsy-doo flip-a-roo. Why are you staring at me over there? I can see you out of the corner. Paula's staring at me. She's like, where's he going to go with this? Don't worry. I'm not giving too many. It's not Paula, by the way. Paula never said she didn't like me, but she did play hard to get. And I sent her that Michelle Branch song. Remember that? I called you that morning. I'm like, why do I like this woman so much? Because she pretended she didn't like me back for a little while. Maybe it is the flip-a-roo. I don't know, but it started that morning. I'm like, why do I like this woman so much? Because she pretended she didn't like me back for a little while. Maybe it is the flip-a-roo.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't know, but it started that way. So it was no flip-a-roo. Getting back to my point, because I always get off track here. So this is the flip-a-roo. Bernie Sanders blames millionaires and billionaires for a problem if you're interested in facts and data that is clearly attributable to government intervention and central planners. Well, why is that odd?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Because Bernie Sanders is a central government planner who wants more of the same problem that's causing the problem. But the millionaires did it. Okay, dude, whatever. You're just making that up. Second takeaway from Matt's piece. Remember Bernie, the millionaires
Starting point is 00:27:41 kicking out people on the street. Yeah. So millionaires and billionaires now are making the homelessness crisis worse. By the way, homelessness is really bad in liberal states, but don't let that get in the way. Second takeaway, Matt, who always does good work. I can't recommend this book enough, by the way. Again, debunk this. You'll see all kinds of arguments like this.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Look at this handy dandy chart. I'll explain it to you for the audio listeners. Quote from Matt's piece. Well, why is there so much homelessness and why are housing costs out of control in liberal areas? Well, folks, you can blame it largely on zoning laws. Quote, zoning laws saw a sharp escalation from the 1980s to the 1960s to 1980s and briefly took a halt in the Reagan era before lawmakers put the pedal to the floor. Now, Matt has a convenient chart here where you can see the zoning index. In other words, zoning laws, which make it more expensive to build housing, which makes Joe shockingly
Starting point is 00:28:36 housing more expensive. You can see from this chart and come back to me here for a second. Zoning and therefore housing costs, Joe. Housing costs and homelessness. Uh, more. There you go again, folks. Don't let the facts get in the way of another stupid Bernie Sanders argument.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It, we definitely need more government. They're going to fix this. They're the ones who did it. They're the ones who did it.'re the ones who did it it's like when you catch your kid with the nutella all over her face and you're like did you eat nutella on that piece of bread no no it wasn't me what's that stuff on your face i don't know i don't know like it reminds me of the beavis and butthead thing mr anderson when he catches him in there
Starting point is 00:29:21 in the rv did you guys rip up my RV? What, me? It was other kids. You're in the RV. The government's causing all these problems. You understand how what I just said? And I meant it. The two people see the world differently,
Starting point is 00:29:40 the super rich and the super political. When you are super political and you dig into every piece and nugget of fact and data, you will start to find out the illuminating moment I had when I figured out that everything you've been told about homelessness, drug problems, college costs, the economy is wrong. That the hiccups and the problems in those areas are the direct result of government involvement. All right, I'm going to get to the tax thing because remember, I just want to play another video first of Elizabeth Warren because Bernie made a claim there about the rich not paying, not paying their fair share either, which is so erroneous that
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Starting point is 00:33:31 so Liz Warren last night I gotta bounce back I can't do too much Elizabeth Warren all at once I really will put you to sleep so I have to kind of like she's digestible in small nuggets, her video appearances there
Starting point is 00:33:48 on a debate stage because they're so bad and so awful. So Bernie made the argument, the last thing about millionaires and billionaires not paying their fair share, which is totally erroneous and just a complete fabrication. Well, Elizabeth Warren doubles down on this again.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And she's asked about, you know, billionaires and why they're so awful. She's like, I don't have a beef with billionaires. So check this cutout and I'm going to finally give you the facts and data. Again, you need to rebut this stupid argument about millionaires and billionaires not paying their fair taxes and not paying their fair share in taxes. And pays particular attention to what Warren says about how those billionaires got rich, conveniently leaving out that it was the tax money the wealthy paid that also built the infrastructure that later wealthy people used to get rich, too. She leaves all that out in this
Starting point is 00:34:31 really silly explanation she tries to frame as an emotional appeal. Check this out. I'm really shocked at the notion that anyone thinks I'm punitive. Look, I don't have a beef with billionaires. My problem is you made a fortune in America. You had a great idea. You got out there and worked for it. Good for you. But you built that fortune in America. I guarantee you built it in part using workers all of us help pay to educate.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You built it in part getting your goods to market on roads and bridges all of us help pay for. You built it at least in part protected by police and firefighters all of us help pay for. You built it at least in part protected by police and firefighters. All of us help pay the salaries for. And all I'm saying is you make it to the top, the top one-tenth of one percent, then pitch in two cents so every other kid in America
Starting point is 00:35:20 has a chance to make it. Senator, thank you. You didn't build that. You're the sequel. Yeah. You didn't build that pitch. You, you, the sequel. Yeah. You didn't be part of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:28 D U X. Right. Remember Obama? You didn't build that. Yeah. They're right. Joe's right. Elizabeth Warren.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Um, folks pitch in two cents. Is she just to be clear, like, all right. You may say, well, she was being silly.
Starting point is 00:35:45 She didn't really mean two cents. Two cents? So she's making a claim to be clear because she's not being clear. That wealthy people get rich and that their wealth was built on the education and security and police services and fire department services and roads and bridges built by others. Okay. It's a stretch. I mean, there are places that have almost no federal income tax base or state income tax base at all where oligarchs and mobsters get rich too.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And I mean, you can't make the same clip right you get my point joe let's just say her suggestion right is that in a civilized country like the united states thankfully that the hordes and the masses would come and repossess your wealth it wasn't for the cops we all pay for and the roads you transport your goods on are paid for by the taxes of other people and you're just basically pillaging all of them and taking their money and all their services to get rich by your, on your own. Well, that argument would, I guess, be sound if the evidence of collection of wealth in central plan or socialist countries and complete third world republics didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:37:03 In other words, what she's suggesting is what? There's a collection of wealth in the United States. It's worse than other places. You go to some countries in Central America, South America, in Africa, where the governing systems aren't as strong, you have a series of oligarchs and upper-level tyrants and people like that
Starting point is 00:37:21 who have gotten wealthy off the people. They just steal their money outright. At least here, the rich have to pay back so okay i'm point two well okay that's fair but what she's saying is the rich don't pay enough just like bernie no no paid a fair share well joe that's a statistical fact-based question again that you can answer by simply ask asking and answering the question well then what do the rich pay well we're gonna do something very troubling for liberals here uh we are gonna actually analyze data d-a-t-a i know that's hard folks i know i know it's not the sexiest word on a show data data liberals are horrified
Starting point is 00:38:08 by data let's check that argument out if the rich are paying their fair share or they're just driving on roads and pillaging police and fire services from everyone else who are paying for let's go to the tax foundation first it's not a pretty exhaustive analysis on these numbers let's check this out by the, this is from 2018. It covers it by Robert Belafior. This will be in the show notes, this article. So all these screenshots
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'm going to put up, you can take yourself. It'll be in the show notes. Again, subscribe to my newsletter on the website. We'll email them to you. The tax foundation did a pretty exhaustive study
Starting point is 00:38:42 of what wealthy Americans, middle-class Americans pay using 2016 data. Why 2016, Joe? Because we did a pretty exhaustive study of what wealthy Americans, middle-class Americans pay using 2016 data. Why 2016, Joe? Because we have a pretty comprehensive data set from them. 2018, 2019 are obviously not in yet. So let's look at what they found. Do the rich pay their fair share or are they driving on roads they didn't pay for? Those evil rich.
Starting point is 00:39:02 From the Tax Foundation. By the way, this is just three of the bullet points from their study there are many more you can read it yourself again it'll be in the show notes and i encourage you to do that because nothing liberals are telling you is true from the piece takeaway number one the share of reported income earned by the top 1% of taxpayers fell slightly to 19.7% in 2016. Their share of the federal income taxes fell slightly to 37.3%. So just to be clear, one out of 100 taxpayers, one, is currently paying 37.3, nearly 40% of federal income tax. One well that's not what is your i don't i don't
Starting point is 00:39:51 get it what's your fair share you want one out of every hundred people to pay what a hundred percent of the federal tax loan so just to be clear how much do those roads cost where that one rich guy out of 100 in your neighborhood is financing 40% of the roads and the police and the fire services? All right, that was about federal income taxes. But it gets worse, not better. Because remember, the top 1% pay state taxes, pay sales taxes. That's a low end of the tax load. So just to be clear, what are those roads?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Paved in diamonds? I mean, I was a cop. I loved it. What are you paying your cops? $7 million a year? I wish we had that kind of GDP where we could pay them. They're great. Joe, audience ombudsman, is this making
Starting point is 00:40:39 sense? One dude or woman out of 100 is paying 40 cents of every dollar to build roads bridges and pay the cops she's talking about yeah back to the tax foundation piece i could do this all day i could do my captain america that movie i could go all day uh in 2016 the top 50 of all taxpayers paid 97% of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50% obviously paid the remaining 3%. So now we're out of the rich category.
Starting point is 00:41:14 We're getting to middle class, upper middle class, and just middle class in general. 50%. So here's half. 50% and up pay $0.97 of every single federal income tax dollar. The bottom 50% pay $0.03 of every dollar. I only bring this point up to show you no matter where you go on the income spectrum, the more money you make, the more taxes you pay. Nobody escapes it. The middle class doesn't escape it.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And let me ask you this. Let me tie it back to Elizabeth Warren's government-run Medicare for all nonsense takeover. Government takeover of our healthcare system. Joe, if the upper 50%, meaning the middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, and the uber wealthy, right? If they're paying almost all, I mean, effectively, 97 cents of every dollar in taxes is paid by them. Yeah. Close to all. Yeah. How are your taxes not going to go up if Elizabeth Warren plans to double the federal budget every year by taking over the healthcare system? Remember, the federal budget's $4 trillion.
Starting point is 00:42:32 She wants to spend a year. She wants to spend $3.2 trillion at the low end more every year. She wants to double the federal budget to pay for a government takeover of the healthcare system. federal budget to pay for a government takeover of the healthcare system. It's going to up your costs and your taxes. If the 50% and above pay almost all of the taxes, how are those top 50%, meaning you, half of the people in your neighborhood, how are they not going to see a tax hike?
Starting point is 00:43:00 It's called math. Arithmetic. Yeah, yeah. Joe's like, yeah, right. Yes, math. That thing. Yes, yeah. Do it. Do it. Theithmetic. Yeah, yeah. Joe's like, yeah, right. Yes, math. That thing. Yes, yes. Do it.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Do it. The couples retreat yoga guy. Yes, math. Do it. That's every online. I need to hire that guy to do a quick commercial for my show. If you're out there,
Starting point is 00:43:16 couples should try. I know a couple Hollywood people. Tap that guy. Call me. I will pay him to do a commercial for my show. Math, Elizabeth Warren.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Do it. Yes, do it. How is she going to do it commercial for my show. Math, Elizabeth Warren, do it. Yes, do it. How is she going to do it? She can't do basic math. Basic math. I was a college professor at Harvard. Turn that degree in, please. Do it, math.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Ah, dude. Okay. There's another from the Tax Foundation piece. I'm sorry, one more. Again, I could do this all day because it's just so easy to debunk their stupidity because data doesn't lie liberals do final takeaway from this piece again there's a bunch of them in there i'm just picking out some of the gems this one this is a i mean this is just a diamond here. The top 1% show, the millionaires and billionaires, paid a greater share of individual income taxes.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Oh, I just lost that. Paid a greater share of individual income tax. Sorry. I'm going to pull this up on my phone, folks. Sometimes I prompt, excuse me, for the new tech here. All right. The top 1%. Yeah, sometimes it goes down.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You got to mess with it sometimes. You can leave it in the show. We just got our new studio. We're just working stuff out. Even last night on a Fox hit, I lost my teleprompter when I was on the Hannity show last night. The top 1% of taxpayers paid a 26.9% individual income tax rate. Oh, there you go. Which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50%.
Starting point is 00:44:50 times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50%. Folks, do you understand what I'm telling you here? One out of a hundred people paid a tax rate that is seven times higher than the taxpayers in the bottom 50% who are only paying 3.7%. Again, please tell me what part. Ah, do it. Tell me what part of fair share that doesn't meet. Give us a number. Aren't you obligated to give us a number? You know, I don't have the clip today. Forgive me. Maybe I am.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I wish I had it. But there's a segment with Al Sharpton. Phony, another fake. Al Sharpton, I'm not sure if he was on Hannity or whatever. I'll try to pull it maybe for tomorrow. Let me take a note on that. Sharpton, I'm not sure if he was on Hannity or whatever. I'll try to pull it maybe for tomorrow. Let me take a note on that, Sharpton. I got to remember because this is a classic. It was Fox.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I'm pretty sure it was Fox. And they ask Al Sharpton. He makes this dopey fair share argument. They ask him to put a number on it. Okay, well, what percentage, if that number I gave you that they're paying 27.9%, seven times higher than the bottom 50%. Yeah. At three,
Starting point is 00:45:46 three percent. What is their fair share? And he gives them a number lower than what they're actually paying. Sharpton does. He's like, well, I think I should pay maybe 40%. Well,
Starting point is 00:45:58 they're actually already paying 80. Ah, and he's like stunned because he, you know, like every other, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Now, you know, as another great piece on this? Our buddies at the Daily Signal.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm going to get to this quick and then let's hold the rest of this stuff. Because there's so much from this debate last night. We had Beto. Gosh, Beto blows up. Kamala Harris. Like the tyranny streak with the left just never ends. Want to shut down Trump's Twitter, Kamala Harris. Good luck with that.
Starting point is 00:46:28 The Daily Signal has a great piece up about, again, who pays the fair share of taxes. Are the rich really getting over? So in their show notes today, the New York Times is wrong. The rich pay more taxes than you do by Adam Michelle. I had Adam Michelle on Twitter. Folks, this is that Saez study we discussed the other day
Starting point is 00:46:48 that the liberals and the New York Times have been tossing out there that the rich are getting over, folks. They're paying a lower tax rate than you are. We clear? Liberal line, which is always BS, so don't worry about the other kids, Beavis and Butthead approach, right? Liberals are paying a lesser tax rate than even some poor Americans.
Starting point is 00:47:15 No. liberals are paying a lesser tax rate than even some poor americans no it's just not true so i have three takeaways from the daily signal piece which is excellent the first one is on tax rates is that true are rich people paying a lower tax rate than the poor well the daily signal looked at that because data kind of matters. Math, do it. Looking at all federal taxes, the CBO, congressional budget, you know, liberals love the CBO, Joe. Now they do, yeah. Shows that the top 1% pay an average federal tax of 33.3%. Joe, keep that in mind. Okay, this is going to be tough math. 33.3, Joe. I'm going to ask you if that's greater or lesser than the next number. So the top 1% pay an average federal tax rate of 33.3%. The data shows tax rates decline with income. Decline? What do you mean? I thought they went up. The liberals are telling us everybody else, the poor people are paying more.
Starting point is 00:47:55 The data shows tax rates decline with income. And the poorest 20% of the population pays an average tax rate of just 1.7%. Wait, here's the kicker. The left-leaning tax policy center shows similar results. Joe, take a moment. I hate these. I hate these. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:48:17 It's mentally exhausting. You got to take a B12 shot afterwards. I get it. The dendrites, boom, got to fire neurons and everything. Joe didn't have a good meal this morning i know it's no is 33.3 percent the tax rate the top one percent are paid is that higher or lower than the 1.7 percent the poor are paying in the country take a moment and think about it why do you make this so hard i know i. I'm sorry. I'm going to say it's bigger.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It's higher. Yeah. Thank you. The verdict is in. Armacost is correct. The judges rule in favor of Joe Armacost. 33.3% even sweating it out is in fact greater than 1.7. Now, don't let, again, don't let those facts from the CBO that the left claims to love
Starting point is 00:49:04 get in the way of a stupid argument that the rich are paying lesser tax rates than the poor. Don't let it get in the way of your argument. Just keep lying. You all are very good at it. Oh, the Daily Signal piece isn't done there, though. You may say to yourself, well, then how did two relatively well-respected by the left, at least, researchers, this guy Saez and Zuckman, how did they come up with crazy numbers like the rich are paying a lesser tax rate than the poor? Well, there's always a stunt, but let's get to takeaway number two first, because this is always a counter-argument that Sharpton actually tried in that cut.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Again, I'm going to try to find this for tomorrow. I'll do my best to dig it up. Well, maybe the rich are paying that tax rate, but certainly it's less than the share. Here's the second takeaway from the Daily Signal piece. Certainly it's less than the share of income. In other words, Joe, if the rich are paying 33%, well, they're making 50, so they should pay more. Okay, let's check that out. Quote from the piece.
Starting point is 00:50:00 The Liberal Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, yes, liberal, estimates that combined federal, state, local taxes are still quite progressive. It finds the top 1% pay a 33.7% tax rate, and the poorest 20% of Americans pay an average 20% cumulative tax rate when all the taxes are factored in. Here's the kicker. The kicker. The data also show the highest income taxpayers
Starting point is 00:50:27 are the only group that pay a larger share of total taxes than its share of total income. Oh! Be ready. Be ready. Liberals come back. I've debated this a thousand times on TV. All right, well, they may pay 33% the rich,
Starting point is 00:50:46 but they earn more than that. And they should pay more. No, they earn less. They pay a greater share of taxes than their total income. What you're saying is false, not true. A lie because we do this crazy thing here called data.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Now I'm going to wrap up the show on this today i know some of this listen i teased the flint i'm gonna have to get to it tomorrow because it's going to require a longer explanation um and i've also got some other cuts and some other stuff but again we want to keep this show in a certain time frame so you can watch it on your commute home and listen um but trust me you're not going to want to miss tomorrow's show. We have been loaded for the last few days. Yeah. You may be asking yourself, well, Liz Warren, the New York Times, Bernie Sanders, and others who are propagandizing and gaslighting you with this study that the rich are getting
Starting point is 00:51:37 over on you and they're paying a lesser share. How did these two researchers come up with that data? They pulled a little stunt. That's fascinating. Paula loves the economic stuff. You're going to like this one. Put up the third takeaway. I'll explain it. I'm going to read it first, but I'll explain it. It's a little complicated. The ratio of underreported to reported income decreases for higher levels of income. The ratio is also changed over time. For example, around the time of the 1986 Reagan tax
Starting point is 00:52:06 cuts, reported income increased significantly because lower tax rates increased tax compliance. Don't worry. I promise I'm going to clear this up for you. Misallocating untaxed income makes top earners' incomes appear systemically larger than they actually are, artificially driving down the estimated tax rate. I get it. Many of you are like, what? What was that about? Yeah, explain, man. Explain. Let me do some explaining.
Starting point is 00:52:29 It's actually easier than you think. Yeah. The way these researchers made the tax rate rich people pay appear lower, because remember, their argument is rich people aren't paying enough taxes and poor people are paying more. You dig? Yeah, man. The way they made the rich people's
Starting point is 00:52:45 tax rates appear lower is this clever little stunt they pulled the irs and other bodies that research tax uh income and tax taxes paid relative to income they adjust income for most income groups rich poor middle class up well why Why would they do that, Joe? Why if, I don't know. I have no idea what Joe makes. Joe makes 50, I have no idea. Let's say Joe makes $50,000 a year. When I'm researching Joe's income and the taxes he pays, I have to adjust that up. I make it maybe if he makes 50, I adjust it to say 55.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You might scratch your head like, Dan, I don't get it. If he makes 50, why are you saying he makes 55? Because folks, as referenced in the Daily Signal piece, a substantial swath of income in the United States goes underreported. So when you study income, they make adjustments upwards. And an example they use in the piece, which is an excellent one, folks, people in the restaurant industry, I love them to death. But let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:53:46 You think they're reporting every tip? Probably not. I mean, listen, everybody's done it. You think the paper boy is getting a cash tip? Income in the United States is not accurately reflected by IRS data. You got to make adjustments. But as the signal notes in the piece, as you move up the income scale, poor, lower middle class, middle class,
Starting point is 00:54:10 upper middle class, wealthy, uber wealthy, Joe, the ratio of underreported income, the amount goes down significantly. Now, why would that be? Think about it. Joe, if you're bill gates yes do you really think bill gates is hiding cash tips he gets do you think someone's dropping him a 10 spot after he after after bill gates does charity hey bill here's a 10 ski and bill's like don't report that his wife melinda hey put it in your bag don't tell. Folks, when you're worth a quadrillion dollars, it's pretty hard to hide that.
Starting point is 00:54:46 They're not like El Chapo burning the 20s in the back of like a stash house for their drug supply. So what Saez and Zuckman did is super clever. They pretended the ratio, in other words, the amount of money rich people hide in like underreported income is the same as say wage workers in a restaurant getting tips that's absurd nobody does that it was a scam no credible entity
Starting point is 00:55:14 does that so what did it do by saying no no rich people make more they're hiding more i'm sure they're hiding something but nowhere close to his percentage what wage workers are doing nowhere close nobody does that Joe what did they do they inflated dramatically the incomes of wealthy people to make it seem like their taxes were that much lower folks seriously
Starting point is 00:55:37 brilliant slimy sleazy snaky horrible but brilliant, brilliant. Guinness guy, brilliant. Yeah. Right? It made out, look, they're not paying their tax.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We're going to, hey, why does their income seem like it's so much more? Oh, we're just using the numbers to be sure everybody else. But that's not how any of that works. Bill Gates does not have a stash house for like, you know, things he sold in the black market in his house i assure you nobody does it that way but these two because they wanted to make an argument that the rich are getting over all right folks i'm sorry i'm sorry i gotta wrap it i got a ton more
Starting point is 00:56:16 i know today's show has been really i one of my favorite shows we've done a long time paula likes economic shows too they were giving out so many Pinocchios so often last night at that debate. Those people are going to need, they're not going to need a chainsaw to get into their car. I mean, it's. Or they're going to cause themselves a serious safety situation if they're in a front end accident,
Starting point is 00:56:39 right? Nose right out the front window. Punch that from like a, like one of those center punches right now you won't even need it you got the nose right on the center punches if you got forbidden to go into water you punch it they don't have it they got the no pop it with the nose folks pick up matt's book again debunk this uh a lot of this stuff is in there it's a terrific piece of work it's available on amazon matt palumbo who is a resident fact checker and please
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