The Dan Bongino Show - 'Big Tish James' Is About To FIND OUT! | Episode 23
Episode Date: April 16, 2025Letitia James, the New York AG that legally persecuted Donald Trump claiming, was just criminally referred for mortgage fraud. How the tables have turned. Also: Biden gives his first public address... since leaving office and it went exactly how you're imagining right now. Trump administration refers NY AG Letitia James for potential prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud https://nypost.com/2025/04/15/us-news/trump-administration-refers-ny-ag-tish-james-for-prosecution/ Here’s a look inside Donald Trump’s $355 million civil fraud verdict https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-letitia-james-new-york-engoron-38bc3a7f2ccb22555c026e9bf70fd5bb Biden calls out Trump and Republicans for cuts to Social Security https://www.axios.com/2025/04/15/biden-chicago-speech-trump-social-security Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oh, how the tables have turned. Tish James, now subject to criminal referral by the Trump
administration. Have we reached the find out phase? I think we have. I think we're in the
find out phase. Great to have you with us today on Vince. Always great to have you with
us, the best damn audience in all of media.
And let me say, we've got the Letitia James story today, who is literally guilty of the thing that
she accused Trump of being guilty of, classic case of left-wing projection. We've got updates on all
of the swatting instances, more conservatives now being subjected to these terror attacks
by the left. We'll get into the details there. Also, Dan Bongino, the FBI deputy director,
responding to that. We have some breaking news today involving going after
the state of Maine that once again,
the find out phase is in place as the state of Maine
continues to allow boys to abuse girls in their system.
That's not happening anymore according to the Trump
administration, they're going after them now for that.
I've got a lot to get to.
Oh, and we've got Chris Van Hollen,
the ludicrous Senator from Maryland going to visit
the guy he says is his constituent,
an MS-13 dude in El Salvador.
He's flying to San Salvador as we speak.
All of that ahead on Vince.
And of course, as always for the live chat on Rumble,
I'll be engaging with the great Rumble chat.
Love everybody here. Thank you for that. Good on Rumble. I'll be engaging with the great Rumble chat. Love everybody here.
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Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Uh, let me tell you about, um, big tish, uh, which is a hilarious. I
love Mike Davis at the article three project is always calling her big tish.
I love that big fat Fannie Willis, big fat tish James.
These are preposterous people who've grossly abused
their power as government prosecutors
in order to try and destroy
their signature political opponent
that would be President Donald J. Trump.
And thankfully, President Trump of course got the last laugh because he both won the election
and is now apparently holding Tish James,
Letitia James, the Attorney General of the state of New York
accountable for what appears to be the crimes
that she committed.
Now, let me take you back in time
in terms of how Letitia James came into being, who she is,
what she stands for. Letitia James ran to become the state attorney general on the idea
that she would destroy Donald Trump. She made it a part of her campaign. Oh, I'm going after him.
He's surely committed crimes, and we are going to use the weight of the justice system in New York
to hurt this man. Her goal, of of course was to debilitate him,
to stop him from being able to mount
yet another successful run
for president of the United States.
And she failed miserably in that goal,
but it was not for a lack of trying.
No, not at all.
In fact, Letitia James in late 2023,
you know, in the heat of the election,
announced a lawsuit against President Trump,
accusing him of defrauding banks in order to secure loans at favorable terms.
You remember this saga?
This is the one where the New York State establishment and Judge Arthur Angaron, that lunatic, wild-haired lunatic, were accusing
President Trump of overstating the value of Mar-a-Lago.
And then these idiots insisted that Mar-a-Lago was valued at $18 million, which is, as anybody
who even has a cursory understanding of Palm Beach real estate would tell you this is insanity. There's
no way that Mar-a-Lago, that beautiful estate right next to the Palm Beach airport would be
worth eight, right on the water is worth $18 million? You know, no, not at all.
It's a storied estate, a beautiful estate, and it's worth a lot more than 18 million bucks.
And yet the state of New York kept saying that, oh, it's only $18 million under Letitia James,
under Arthur Angaron.
And so they go after President Trump for this.
And in this rigged court where,
remember there were no victims here.
All the banks said they were perfectly happy
with their business with President Trump.
They found no fault in his valuations.
They said he routinely paid all of his obligations on time
and they would love to do business
with him again.
Once again, a victimless scenario in a novel and abusive use of the law.
At the end of it, the left imposed, Arthur Angoran imposed, a massive, massive fine on
President Trump for nothing.
For nothing.
They concluded that he owed $355 million, $355 million in a civil fraud verdict.
Take a look at this.
Here, I got the articles from the time.
Look at this bad boy.
A $355 million claim against President Trump after Friday's eye popping penalty in his
New York civil fraud trial, the AP described gleefully in February of last year, he's going
to need his cash.
A judge ordered the former president to fork over $355 million of his fortune plus interest
finding he lied for years about his wealth
on financial statements that he used to secure loans
and make deals as he built the real estate empire
that vaulted him to fame and the presidency.
So this is insane is what it is,
a gross abuse of government power
in a situation where nobody was victimized.
And then the last 24 hours, something really interesting has developed,
really fascinating and so, so sweet.
Suddenly, the feds now have credible evidence that it's Letitia James who has been defrauding lenders.
Letitia James who has been telling lies.
Letitia James who has been securing loans through the use of those lies on favorable
terms, in other words, defrauding these lenders to her own benefit.
That's the news now.
And here we go.
Here's the New
York Post with a version of this reporting this morning. Trump
administration refers New York Attorney General Letitia James
for potential prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud. New
York Attorney General Letitia James, who infamously
declared that no one is above the law when she was targeting
Donald Trump, was just hit with a federal criminal referral for James, who infamously declared that no one is above the law when she was targeting Donald
Trump, was just hit with a federal criminal referral for instances of alleged mortgage
fraud on Tuesday, according to a letter that was just obtained by the New York Post. That
letter written by Federal Housing Finance Agency Director William Pulte, who sent it
to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche alleging that
Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York, had falsified her own records to get
home loans for a property in Virginia that she claimed was her principal residence in
2023 while still serving as a New York State prosecutor. This occurred in late August of 2023, weeks before James began her civil fraud trial against the Trump organization for over inflating the value of its properties, which ended in a $454 million judgment.
That was initially.
You get that detail?
You get that detail? This fraud that the feds have discovered occurred in late August 23.
That is just weeks before she prosecuted President Trump for what she herself had actually done.
Oh, he's defrauding lenders.
No sweetheart, you're defrauding lenders.
You're the one who did this.
This is a case of projection.
And it's instant. It's the second she's defrauding letters. You're the one who did this. This is a case of projection. And it's instant.
It's the second she's defrauding the lender. She comes out and she goes, well, somebody else must
be defrauding lenders. Maybe it's Donald Trump. Let's prosecute him. That's what happened.
A little bit more for you. Now, you have to take a look at this letter because the letter is dense
with all sorts of scandalous information about how this all went down, how all of it went down.
These are the receipts you're looking for. Here's the information. dense with all sorts of scandalous information about how this all went down, how all of it went down.
This is, these are the receipts you're looking for. Here's the information.
Take a look.
This comes to us once again from the federal housing
service, the head of US federal housing, William Palti,
who sends this letter to Pam Bondi and Todd Blanch.
And he said, based on media reports, he's discovered Letitia James has in multiple
instances falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government
backed assistance and loans and more favorable loan terms.
This is potentially included the following. One, falsifying her resident status
for a Norfolk, Virginia based home
in order to secure a lower mortgage rate.
Here's, I got to tell you something
about New York state law that you have to know here.
Letitia James cannot, by New York state law,
live in another state.
If her residence is officially
in a completely different state,
her job is vacated,
meaning she is not the attorney general
of the state of New York anymore.
This case goes far beyond just who did she defraud
when it came to some banks.
It goes to what extent did she defraud
the people of the state of New York?
If she actually established her residence in a completely different state, New York
state law dictates she's not allowed to be the attorney general anymore.
You are not allowed to hold public office in New York if you're not a resident of the
state.
And that would also mean that the ensuing prosecution of President Trump that took place
just weeks later was itself a
total scam for yet another reason, because she wasn't the lawful attorney general of the state.
I am very eager to see where all of this goes. The Trump administration identifying this,
handing this now off to the Justice Department, the Attorney General Pam Bondi,
and saying, now's your chance, you can prosecute this.
Here's what else we know.
She's also believed to have, quote,
misrepresented property descriptions
to meet stringent requirements for government-backed loans
and government assistance.
In other words, she's stealing from the taxpayers.
On August 17th of 2023,
this would be just weeks
before she prosecuted Trump. Latisha James granted someone
called Shamice Thompson Hairston, power of attorney to
make a Virginia property her principal residence. And on
August 30th and 31st, through her attorney, Latisha James
purchased this property in Norfolk. In a Fannie Mae Freddie
Mac form, and in mortgage documents,
she reaffirmed, that would be Letitia James,
that this would be her primary residence,
despite being a statewide public office holder
in the state of New York at the very same time,
and primarily residing in the state of New York.
In fact, a building permit that was issued
on her New York property on July 15th of this
past year refers to it as the James residence and says it, quote, remains occupied.
So she's now claiming two different properties as her, quote, primary residence.
And anybody who's ever had to deal with taxes or mortgages or anything related to having
a home or having a second home,
say an investment property, you know that these distinctions are not meaningless.
These are massive distinctions that give you meaningful financial advantages.
And here she is taking, taking advantage of the taxpayer.
Primary residence mortgages receive more favorable loan terms, including lower interest rates
than secondary residence mortgages.
Lenders view secondary residence mortgages as significantly riskier
as a borrower is more likely to continue paying off a primary
residence during any financial hardship. Well, that makes a
lot of sense. If you fall on hard times, and you can't make
the bills work. What's the place that you're going to work the
hardest to keep? What's the home you live in.
Your second home,
well, you might let some of those payments lapse.
That's why lenders are concerned about that.
Interest rates on secondary residence mortgages
are typically from a quarter to half a percentage point
higher than their primary residence counterparts.
However, this gap can actually widen
depending on the lender.
At the time of the purchase, Letitia James was the attorney general of New York and is
required by law to have her primary residence in the state of New York, even though her
mortgage application lists her intent to have the Norfolk, Virginia property as her primary
home.
Isn't this amazing?
Isn't this, let me zoom in on that a little bit for you so we can see this better. It appears Ms. James's property and mortgage related misrepresentations
may have continued to her recent 2023 Norfolk, Virginia property purchase in order to secure
that lower interest rate. Okay. So there you go. Then they get into the fact that she's
got this Brooklyn property as well. She's got a Brooklyn property that is separate
from the place that she lives, not her residence.
This is a property where she has a five family dwelling
in it.
In other words, she's charging people rent to live there,
a five family dwelling.
She's charging people rent to live there, a five family dwelling.
And that property in Brooklyn,
when she secured the mortgage for it,
she bought it under the terms of a four unit program
in order to receive federal assistance.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac backed mortgages
have favorable rates and terms to traditional private mortgages have favorable rates and terms
to traditional private mortgages.
Conforming single family loans are subject to a cap
of four dwellings per property, four dwellings.
A building that exceeds four units
must be treated as a multifamily property.
And typically as a larger down payment requirement,
higher interest rate terms with interest rates
being up to a percentage point higher
due to lenders viewing multifamily homes as being significantly riskier.
So now we found yet another distortion, another misrepresentation, another count of fraud
where she's lying about the number of families who are living in this property.
How many units are in the property?
She claimed four in order to get the federal terms.
It's actually five.
These are problems. One more for you in terms, it's actually five. These are problems.
One more for you in this, because it's endless. All of the things she's accused of here, endless.
They've also included additional documentation here
in the referral letter, which shows that back in 1983,
and then again in the year 2000,
Letitia James listed her father as her husband. You heard me correctly. This is typical
left-wing nonsense. She listed her father as her husband in order to secure a home mortgage.
Letitia James in 2000 was once again listed as husband and wife with her father
2000 was once again listed as husband and wife with her father in these documents.
They say while this was a long time ago, it raises serious concerns about the validity of Letitia James's
representations on mortgage applications. So all the way through, yeah, that's right, the chat is pointing out this is Ilhan Omar territory.
Ilhan who married her brother
to commit immigration fraud.
Here you have Letitia James on documents claiming that her father is her husband to make these
mortgage applications over and over and over again, evidence of her criminality, of her
fraudulence.
And so there she was, late 2023,
getting in front of microphones, big tish James,
accusing President Trump of wrongdoing,
saying that he violated the law,
that he overvalued his properties
in order to get favorable terms from lenders.
This woman was lying on practically every mortgage form
she could get her hands on
in order to get, yes, favorable
terms and additionally, according to these documents, to defraud federal taxpayers for
access to federal programs that she should not have had access to. That's the attorney general
of New York who should not be in that job if her primary residence is in Norfolk, Virginia.
It's against the law. Boy, she's in for a world of hurt, isn't she?
Again, I think we've reached the find out phase.
I want to remind you of how President Trump responded back when the state of New York,
Letitia James, Arthur Angron were insisting that Mar-a-Lago is worth a mere $18 million.
Take a look.
Here's the president.
They valued Mar-a-Lago. Yeah. At $18 million. I mean,, here's the president. They valued Mar-a-Lago. Yeah.
At $18 million.
Because the courts are rigged.
What's going on?
The courts are rigged, they did, they valued it.
It had an appraisal of 1.5 billion, 1 billion, 2 billion.
Who knows what it's worth?
Because that was good for their narrative.
So they valued it at $18 million
because it's a crooked legal system, very crooked.
That's why people are leaving New York.
Companies are fleeing New York because of even this decision.
They're leaving New York.
And no, they come after me because I'm in the election.
If I didn't run or if I was in fourth place or fifth place or ninth place, there'd be
no attacks.
And if we don't win, I'll tell you, I made the statement the other day,
November 5th, that's election day. Not that far away.
November 5th is going to be the most important day in the history of our country.
With that being said, seven months
is a long time
when you have somebody as destructive and incompetent as this president.
That's a long time.
A lot of bad things can happen to our country.
Yeah, yeah.
No, and thankfully, of course, we know how that went.
He won.
Their efforts to rig the election failed.
They failed.
And that includes Letitia James.
So up until this point,
here's what we knew about Letitia James,
that she was an abusive little tyrant
who was trying to rig the election
on behalf of Joe Biden and company, no
question. But here's what we didn't know until recently. What
we didn't know is that she was also trying to pretend that she
was the firefighter responding to the arson. This was a massive
case of projection. She knew she was in the midst of her own
mortgage fraud. And then she was in the midst of her own mortgage fraud.
And then she goes after Trump, a successful businessman, whose lenders are very pleased
with their relationship with him, and then accuses him of overinflating the value of
his assets to gain favorable loan terms.
It really is rich, isn't it?
It really is so completely perfect.
So completely perfect. So completely perfect.
And so now that you have this criminal referral
coming to the United States Department of Justice,
this is a massive win for decency, for justice.
These are consequences.
This is precisely what we've been looking for.
And now of course, what we await
is the official announcement out of the United States Department of Justice. That's what we need. Yes, we've been looking for. And now, of course, what we await is the official announcement out of the United States Department
of Justice.
That's what we need.
Yes, we've got this referral.
Yes, it's within the Trump administration.
But no, it is not yet the prosecution.
That part is in Pam Bondi's hands.
And I know that you and I are going to be watching her very closely to see what she
does with an open and shut case of corruption at the hands of a public official.
It's very simple. It's very, very simple. I'd be remiss, by the way, if I didn't also
give you a little bit more information here about how this came into being. There's a
journalist by the name of Sam Antar. He's committing acts of journalism here
by revealing all of this.
He has been all over this story.
And one of the reasons that the justice department
knows about all of this is because of his work.
This Sam Antar character is kind of interesting
because those of you from the Northeast
may remember something from a long time ago
called Crazy Eddie's.
It was a, it was a, it was a, from, from, I think it was the late eighties, early nineties,
it was electronic sales and the company had these wild ads on television.
Crazy Eddie's got the craziest deals and in the end, Crazy Eddie's went down because of
fraud and this guy, this guy, Sam was involved.
Sam Antar was involved in running the company.
And ever since then, after he was busted for fraud, he's dedicated his life to instead
digging fraud and out and making it public.
And here he is doing it with the New York attorney general, Letitia James.
And he's been reporting all over this.
This is an April 1st report, but it's one of many.
And I just, I think that people who do important acts
of journalism in the service of the country
deserve the credit.
So I just want to surface this.
The name of his website is whitecollarfraud.com.
I actually emailed him this morning
with the hopes of getting him on the show. Perhaps we can talk to him in the days ahead, but he's the reason a lot of this has
become public. So thank I'm very thankful to him for that. And it looks like now the the Trump
administration has his hands all over this. And hopefully the Justice Department is going to go
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the chat is a wild this morning. Hey, um, how are we feeling about Tish James
having some consequences here?
We like this, isn't it amazing?
Are you shocked that Letitia James
stands accused of defrauding lenders
and American taxpayers?
You're not shocked?
Pretty amazing, pretty amazing. This is really good. Loving it.
Boomerang. Yeah, that's a great phrase. Boomerang. I love it's boomerang and back right on her.
Not shocked says EGRF 130. There's some glee coming in. FAFO as you might expect.
Pam won't do anything about it says somebody. This is a real test for Pam Bondi. People are
skeptical that they're going to see more progress beyond this. Big chance for the attorney general
to prove the chat wrong for those people who don't think it's going to happen. I really
hope it does.
And let's see. Yeah, a little bit of some, some they won't do anything. F-tish, you know,
some nice, some nice sendoffs for the attorney general. So there you go. She's a crook. Karma, baby. Yes, indeed. You know, on the
attorney general, Pam Bondi, I do have an update for you this morning that I am pleased with,
with the attorney general. Do you remember there was not long ago, the president of the United
States welcomed the state's governors to the White House. They all were sitting together.
And while they were there, President
Trump was talking about protecting women's sports and saying, we've got to get the men
out. I'm, I've signed an executive order making this really clear. We've got to get the federal
funding out of any school or institution that allows men to abuse women, that allows men
to change in women's locker rooms, that allows men into women's prisons,
and on and on and on.
Do you remember this?
I'm gonna play this, fellas.
Here we go, here's the President of the United States.
Justin, I think I can hear your microphone coming in,
so let's mute that side of it real fast.
Here's the President of the United States
in February saying this, watch.
The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way, that's good. uh... in in february saying this watch the ncaa
has complied immediately by the way that's good
but i understand main
is the main here the government
are you uh... not going to comply with it
uh... well i'm we are the federal law
well you better do it you better do it because you're not going to get any
federal funding at all if you don't.
And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very
well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports.
So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
Every state, good, I'll see you in court.
I look forward to that.
That should be a real easy one. And enjoy your life after governor because I don't think you'll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one.
And enjoy your life after governor because I don't think you'll be in elected politics.
All right, so that was the president,
speaking exactly the way we hope he does
and he always delivers, doesn't he?
As he points out to the governor, Janet Mills in Maine,
you're not gonna let men and women sports anymore.
That's not gonna happen anymore.
And she responds flippantly,
we'll see you in court. We're following the law. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're
not following the civil rights act. You're not following title nine. You're not following
the constitution of the United States at all. The point of title nine was to protect women's
sports, women's spaces. There's a reason we segregate based on sex.
If woman wasn't a real category,
why would we create a protection for it?
It's so completely obvious to anybody with two eyes,
two ears and two brain cells to rub together.
Everybody understands why we do this.
And Janet Mills, who last I checked
is supposed to be a woman,
is standing up there saying,
now I'm going to let men abuse women in my state. That's going to be the pattern here.
Now, this morning, the update on the CU in court front is that just a short while before we started
the live broadcast here, the attorney general, Pam Bondi, has announced new federal action against the
state of Maine. Take a look as Pam Bondi is surrounded by female athletes and a state
representative from Maine by the name of Laurel Libby. You'll see her over Pam Bondi's left
shoulder. Take a look at this.
Today, the Department of Justice is announcing a civil lawsuit against the Maine Department of Education.
The State of Maine is discriminating against women by failing to protect women in women's
sports.
Pretty basic stuff.
This is a violation of Title IX.
The Department of Justice will not sit by when women are discriminated against in sports. This is about sports. This is also
about these young women's personal safety. I met many of these women throughout the past
weeks and months and what they have been through is horrific. We have exhausted every other remedy.
We tried to get Maine to comply.
We don't like standing up here and filing lawsuits.
We want to get states to comply with us.
That's what this is about.
We have repeatedly notified Maine of its infractions
and urge them to remedy the situation to protect women. Yeah.
We've stripped grants from Maine through other departments, and we are going to continue
to fight for women.
All right.
So a good announcement this morning out of the United States Department of Justice and
the attorney general.
You can see over her shoulder in that image, of course, you've got Riley Gaines, the very accomplished collegiate female swimmer who had to swim against a fella
called William Thomas, who goes by Leah and pretends to be a girl and stole the honors of
so many girls in that high level competitive swimming. And then, it also forced the women to see his naked body
inside of the locker rooms as they would all get changed.
And then just off to the side, you can see a little bit,
there's a main state representative here
by the name of Laurel Libby.
This woman is a hero.
This woman, who by the way, will be on my radio show today, the National Radio
Show 12 to 3 Eastern Time. You can also see that at rumble.com slash Vince. I'll be joined
by this Maine state representative, Laurel Libby. I've talked to her a bunch in the past.
And the reason for that is because it seems like she's the only state representative in
Maine who's really spending any meaningful time fighting
for the rights of women in the state.
The rest of the state legislature, or at least too much of it, has been overtaken by these
lunatics who are pretending that men are women.
And as a result, what they've done to Laurel Libby, who keeps speaking out against all of
this, is they have stripped her ability to speak.
That's right, to speak on the floor of the state legislature and they've removed her ability to
vote in legislative procedures. She's not allowed to vote in the legislature anymore.
How does that work in the state of Maine? She has constituents. She has people who voted for her. She is a voice for some section of Maine.
And that section of Maine,
that district is now not represented anymore
because their representative has been muzzled.
She wasn't removed from the state body.
She's still a part of it.
She's not allowed to vote.
She's not allowed to speak.
And her sin is acknowledging third grade biology.
That's her sin. Laura Libby. So she's being martyred in the midst of all this because
of the left's never ending sexism. They're never ending misogyny. They're never ending
attacks and abuses on women. And this comes on the same week where the left was doing
this ludicrous performance where they were celebrating these famous chicks, these rich chicks that they just sent into space for
five seconds for an 11 minute pillow fight.
They send them up there and then they come back and then they say, well, this is a huge
thing for women.
This connects us with the eternal feminine said Katy Perry.
She said, oh my goddess.
When she was in midair, this is the, the lunatic incoherence of the left,
which goes at one moment from celebrating
supposed female empowerment,
when rich chicks get the fly out of space,
to the next where they pretend that women
don't actually exist as a meaningful biological category
and that men can steal their honors.
Yeah.
So remember that name, Laura Libby from Maine.
My suspicion is that that's not, this is definitely not the last you're going to hear from her
and certainly not today because she'll be live with me on the Vince show coming up on
radio later today.
Really, really wild.
Deb, DebWeth17 saying the battle is over.
And in women's sports is just a precursor to loss of women and women's rights.
And eventually Sharia law, mark my words.
I see it creeping in.
Look, the, the subjugation of women is all of the rage.
That's the point here.
That's the point.
It's to cheat them out of their honors and the things that we've created to literally
protect women and fair play. Amazing. All right. We've got some more swatting incidents going on.
Speaking of women being victimized, did you see that Cheryl Atkinson, the journalist,
was just attacked in another swatting attack. A lot of conservatives have been attacked
this way, where lefties decide that they want to scare the hell out of conservatives that
they don't like and to imperil them to the point that there have been people who've been
killed in these swatting attacks. As SWAT teams show up thinking they're arriving to a crisis
situation at the home
when of course no such thing is actually going on. I've got more details coming up on that
in just a moment. I want to go through that with you. Some of the things we're learning
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All right. And there's Major.
Come here, buddy.
Major does not like swaddings.
Not a fan.
Not a fan of swaddings.
There's the dog.
I actually, I have a,
I've been holding back from telling you all this,
not on purpose, just cause she's not quite
as well behaved as Major. I have another dog named Raina, another rescue. And, um, the
reason we got Raina, Raina's Raina's troubled Raina's Raina's working through her issues.
You know, she was actually, she was, I think she was pretty traumatized. She was pretty
abused before we got her. So we've been trying to work with her to calm her down, but she
loves running with major. So every morning, first thing in the morning, I'm always the first one up in our house and I let these dogs out. They run like
crazy. The reason major's constantly lying down in studio when he's here, he's, he's
sapped of his morning energy. These dogs run hard every day, which is, which is great.
I love, I love seeing the dogs run hard. They have a great time. The only challenges on
rainy days.
I gotta get, do you, what do you do for the rain? Dog owners out there, when you, the dogs come in caked in mud. I've got,
I've got one of these cups that has these little rubber, uh,
like spines inside the cup and you fill the cup up with warm water and then you
stick their paws in it.
And then it scrapes all the mud off of their paws.
And then I just take old rags and I rub all the, uh all the mud off these dogs, kind of wipe them off. You know, you do what
you got to do, but whatever, whatever solutions you have for muddy dogs, I will take that.
I will take that very much. Oh, look at this guy. Some idiot drift says Vince is controlled
opposition. I don't even know what the hell that means. Thank you for that. Hey,
let me Yes, because I'm talking about major and my mud cleaning
routine. That's right that I was given the orders to do that.
Hey, um, let me let me get into the swatting attacks now, as the
left keeps attacking people here through and trying to get them
killed. Let's be clear about what this is.
These are acts of terrorism.
These are acts of terrorism.
And they continue just overnight.
We got some more information from Cheryl Atkinson,
the great reporter.
She indicated that it was happening once again to her
and said that there was a swatting to her house
and she had notified the local FBI
and she didn't get the kind of response that she was hoping for from these guys. She said that she
reported a swatting at her house yesterday and told the local FBI office and that they were like,
hey, we don't know if anybody will call you back, but maybe
they will. Maybe not.
Sheryl Atkinson said, well, I hope they do. They need to gather the information because
they didn't ask for the screenshots of the swatting texts that I have or the pizza delivery
emails or other stuff. And they said they didn't need the local police case number.
So that's very troublesome. That's, that's worrying that you get a local FBI branch
that is telling anybody.
It doesn't have to be Cheryl Atkinson.
It doesn't have to be a famous person.
It could be anybody who's being swatted
that maybe we'll get back to you.
Maybe we won't.
So one hopes that Cheryl Atkinson gets a better response
than that.
Now I will say to the credit of Dan Bongino, the FBI deputy director, he responded to all
of this.
It seemed pretty clear to me that he was responding to what happened with Sheryl Atkinson.
Quote, swatting is deadly serious.
The potential for serious injury or death is high.
I've asked our team to double efforts to locate the people into our groups behind it.
I'm on the road that is in our field offices handling other sensitive matters,
but I'll be monitoring the progress and I hope to have some updates for you soon.
So I think we can take that from Dan as meaning we will be getting updates
soon on what is being done about swatting. You can see in the comments here, one of the responses immediately from Sean Farish
who's so talented.
The guy is a great conservative,
also a great President Trump impressionist.
He responded because he too has been swatted.
He said, thank you, Dan.
We want these people brought to justice.
I have faith that in due time it will happen.
So things like this never happen again.
Sean, by the way, is another one who I think I've got scheduled today for the radio show.
So I'm going to be talking to Sean too on the radio program today about his experience
with all of this.
But this got me thinking, what is the FBI doing here?
How are they handling it up until this point?
I'm glad that Dan is getting involved.
That gives us a little bit more confidence that maybe we'll get some clear answers and
some clear consequences here for these terrorists. But
I'd like to know what has happened so far. And here is one indication for you that I
think is a little bit edifying. At least it gives us a good impression of what's going
on. According to CBS in late March, this report came out. It's a pizza order leads to a huge police response in suburban Chicago swatting.
And one of the reasons I want to dwell on this story is the pizza component to all of
this.
I've mentioned before that the people who are being swatted are being sent pizzas.
Pizzas.
Now, on first blush, that may sound just like some sort of trolly move. Oh, there's
pizza pizzas being sent. And, um, and it's just meant to, you know, be like a calling
card or something, you know, like a home alone, the wet bandits, they flood the house every
time we're the wet bandits, Harry and Marv. Uh, you kind of think maybe that's the, uh,
the game plan here. Send a pizza. It's a calling card for these types of terror attacks.
But there is definitely something more to this.
One thing that I keep hearing from people
who have taken a close look at this
and are being subjected to it is they believe
that this is designed to be a means by which
to verify that the person is at home.
That they send the pizza in order to confirm
that the person is at home.
Now, if you're the terrorist who's making that phone call, one would assume that you're
going to have some sort of way to determine that the pizza was successfully delivered.
Maybe that is through a pizza delivery app where you see it indicates on the app that
it's been delivered to let them know that somebody is at the house. That could be a part of this. But there's another element
to these pizzas that deserve some attention here. What we've what we've learned about
the pizza delivery is that in some cases, these pizza apps have been used in order to
induce the SWAT itself.
The FBI reporting in March that they're seeing a growing problem of false emergency calls
designed to trigger a significant police response.
These false reports of hostage situations, kidnappings and bombing threats put both first
responders and innocent people in jeopardy.
They say last year alone, at least 600 people were victims of swatting.
According to the FBI, at least 600.
And in fact, there was an innocent man in Kansas
who was killed by responding officers
during one swatting attack.
The FBI's special agent, Seobahn Johnson,
said that the Bureau has actually created a special unit
of 700 individuals from 350 law enforcement agencies across the country to
collect data to identify these patterns and solutions.
The command center was aimed at allowing local police to work with us in real time to track
these swatting incidents across jurisdictions anywhere they're occurring.
CBS reports on a family called the Adkins family.
They say they were victims of this kind of swatting in
February of this year, aurora police descended on their home
at midnight one night with officers telling them to come
outside questioning whether they had weapons and wanted to
search their home. So john and his wife, Jennifer were confused
and afraid. john comes out, he puts his hands up. There were
officers with shields and guns pointed at him.
They had no idea that the police were there
because a 911 call claimed that the husband
was holding his wife and children hostage.
So they walk out there.
Eventually the wife walks out,
ma'am, can you step out for a second?
She comes out in her bathrobe, puts her arms up.
You can see a picture of her here standing in her bathrobe.
And then police then asked to search the home,
which then they did, they let them do that.
And they found out everybody was safe.
And John, the man who was the homeowner,
found out, he goes, I think I'm being swatted.
He was being swatted.
At some point during the interaction,
the cops asked him if I ordered a pizza, he continued.
John said he thought it was an interesting question
given the circumstances.
Police questioned him about a pizza order
and a plea for help that was included in the order.
This is the key here.
John responded, he was dumbfounded.
He said, no, I didn't order a pizza.
Two minutes ago, I was up in my bed, you know, sleeping,
naked, I didn't order pizza.
Why are you asking this question? John said.
One officer explained what happened.
Someone placed an online order from this location
saying in the order, in the comment section,
please send help.
My husband has a gun pointed at me and my children,
said the officer on the body camera video.
After getting that plea for help, a Domino's worker then called 911 and police continued
investigating.
John then saw Domino's pizza delivery driver drive past the swatting scene.
So here's something that is not receiving enough attention. These, some of these terrorists are using the messaging
feature of the pizza delivery app.
You know, where you add an additional comment, like,
Hey, make sure there's plenty of pepperoni on the pizza
or whatever you want to add your message to the,
to the store.
And they're saying, please send help.
My husband has a gun pointed at me and my children.
So you're a Domino's worker.
And so what do you think when you receive a message like that? What are you supposed to do with that? And so presumably
these pizza workers, they see it and they go, holy crap. And so they make a phone call
and I'm on one. They say, Hey, I just got this message over this pizza app about what's
going on at this house. And that induces a SWAT response. So you can see what's happening. The terrorists are laundering their messages through pizza operations.
At Domino's, for what it's worth, Domino's says that it's working directly with law enforcement
these days, with the FBI, to resolve these things.
And my guess is that these big national chains are going to be more on guard for these types
of messages going forward, one would hope, you know, or at least alerting their franchisees that something like this may happen.
But can you imagine that we live in this world where you have to notify all of your pizza
franchisees that you may be used as a part of a terrorist attack? It's crazy. But this is a
really big deal. Dan Bongino announcing that he is doubling resources
now to get to the bottom of this. And these guys deserve the
death penalty, the kind of people who would imperil the
lives of somebody else in a terror attack like this, they
deserve the death penalty. I'm sorry. At the very least to be
locked up in jail and have the key thrown away.
This is you're not playing around here.
This is not some innocent prank.
This is not something that people are going to walk away from.
People are going to more people are going to be killed in these incidents and they desperately
have to stop and meaningful consequences need to happen in public.
You need the most dramatic possible perp walk you can possibly summon.
You need to get these guys out front and center
and you need to shame them in public spaces
across social media, all across television,
on every available newspaper.
They have to be shamed into submission
in order to stop anybody else
from attempting to do something like this
because this will get people killed beyond the people that's already gotten killed.
Wild.
Totally wild.
So that's the update there.
FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino offering more updates on this.
I do think that we're approaching a period where we're going to start to see a lot more
of the action that we are approaching a period where we're going to start to see a lot more of the action
that we're seeing. For instance, this morning after going after the attorney general of New
York, Tish James, this is now what we're in April 16th, January 20th, President Trump came into
office. We are well past the time now where you think that the fact gathering phase has to have
concluded in a lot of things being pulled together. And now I know what you're looking for. I know what I'm looking for. I'm looking
for the prosecution phase. I'm looking for the consequences phase. I'm looking for the
find-out phase. A lot more of that. I'd like to see a lot more of that. I'm very hopeful
we'll get that coming up shortly. Another thing, let me say, we do have, we do have Democrat Senator Chris Van Hollen
is headed to El Salvador right now to go see what he refers to as one of his constituents,
which is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen.
Democrats are so fond of violent, illegal foreign nationals, it really is reaching
cartoonish levels. Here is Chris Van Hollen. It is an airport, and so therefore he is announcing
his departure to San Salvador. Take a look at ridiculous Chris Van Hollen.
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador.
The goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration, to let the government of El
Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to bring a Albrego Garcia home.
The MS 13 guy.
Until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I hope to
have the chance to actually see Kilmar and see what his condition is. To see him. He wants to
comfort him. He wants an Oprah style conversation with the MS-13 guy. We are going to keep fighting
because this is a miscarriage of justice. The Supreme Court has ruled nine. Somebody said it
looks like he's wearing a dunce cap. It does actually kind of look like he's somehow the shading behind him, a perfect little
triangular dunce cap on top of the dunce from Maryland, Chris Van Hollen. Zero, nine to zero
that he was illegally taken out of the country and put in a prison in El Salvador.
And this is about due process.
This is about-
It just lies to you.
It just brazenly lies to you.
Rule of law.
What bullies do is they begin by picking on the most vulnerable.
But if we get rid of the rule of law due process, the United States, it's
a short road from there to tyranny.
Yeah.
This guy doesn't care at all about the wellbeing of the country, the rule of law.
If he did, you would hear him doing a video right now about Rachel Moran.
If he cared about the rule of law, he'd be all over the Rachel Moran case, whose killer
from El Salvador was just convicted this week, jury deliberations lasting under an hour to convict
the man who murdered the illegal alien from El Salvador who murdered Rachel Moran.
She was out jogging and he raped and he killed her.
And Chris Van Hollen is not mounting any sort of big public case for her.
Instead, he's doing it for other illegal aliens
from El Salvador.
That's his view on this.
Stephen Miller over at the White House,
he was speaking out about this on the Fox News Channel.
And he said, this is ludicrous.
Chris Van Hollen is acting like this guy's his constituent.
He's not his constituent.
He's the constituent of El Salvador.
Take a look.
Senator Van Hollen seems to be under the very confused impression that this MS-13 terrorist
is his constituent. He is President Bukele's constituent. He is President Bukele's citizen.
He is President Bukele's resident. He is not a Maryland man. He is not a Maryland anything.
Right.
He's an illegal alien from El Salvador with a deportation order from the United States.
Yep. He is not.
Notice that Chris Van Hollen didn't give you any of these details. He just lied directly
to your face.
Legally even allowed to be in our country. Under the due process that these Democrats
so venerate for illegal innovators, it is
legally impermissible for him to have one more minute in this country.
So we honor the law and obey the law by getting him out of this country.
And if the entire Democrat party was to work itself into a state of emotional hysteria
to demand the return of illegal gang members and terrorists to our
shores and that 21% will soon be 15 and then it'll be 11 and then all they'll have left
is the support of actual confirmed and Mr. King members and that will be the entire base
of the Democrat Party.
Yeah, so there's a rule of law question here and but Stephen Miller is also bringing up
the politics of all of this.
How idiotic is it that the left is taking up for a position that nobody actually wants
in the United States of America?
Even if you had the chance to change the law, nobody in the country is going to change the
law to say we need to bring in more MS-13 people.
We need massive millions of foreign nationals pouring into our country.
Nobody is doing that.
In fact, cut six here.
Look at Scott Jennings on CNN going, you want to do this, Democrats?
Go ahead. This is your own suicide.
This is your own funeral.
Take a look.
The point they're making,
the political point they're making is making it clear.
If you're a violent person,
if you've broken our immigration laws,
we're here to keep Americans safe.
And our opposition is apparently currently organizing
congressional delegations to go to El Salvador
to try to bring illegal aliens back to the United States.
It's politically crazy.
God, he has not been criminally charged.
What about due process?
That is a constitutional right that anyone in this country has.
If you want to bow down on this hill, be my guest.
It's political malpractice to send Democrat members of Congress to El Salvador to retrieve
illegal aliens.
It's his senator from his state.
He's from the state of Maryland.
He lives in El Salvador.
He lives in Maryland. His senator? He's from El state. He's from the state of Maryland. He lives in Maryland.
His senator, he's from El Salvador. Are you nuts? You want to do this? It's political malpractice.
Go for it. I'm perfectly happy to let you do this. In fact, I probably shouldn't get in your way.
When you're screwing up this badly, I should just keep letting you do it. I want to end on this
point with the words of Rachel Moran's mother. I
mentioned Rachel Moran, the mother of five who the poor woman, uh, uh, raped and murdered by
an illegal from El Salvador, Chris Van Hollen's actual constituent, uh, who he couldn't give two
craps about. He doesn't care at all. He's not bothering his time at all, uh, with the loss of
her life or anybody else who's actually an American citizen
in Maryland.
Here is Patty Moran, Rachel Moran's mother,
responding to Chris Van Hollen's ludicrous
anti-American publicity stunt.
What are your thoughts on your Senator going to bat
for this illegal, but did he ever say anything to you
and your family about your loss to ever call you ever take the time?
to be with you
No, actually I'm very angry I'm actually outraged but I'm too sad at the moment to show anger at the same time
He he did not call our family he did not give condolences
There was no action on the Democrat
Democratic Party in any way from Joe Biden Kamala Harris my orcas
None of them anyone here in Maryland none of the senators did anything to help
Search for the murderer of my daughter. What are you at the none of them?
None of them Chris Van Hollen didn't do any of this.
You know, and it's not that hard.
You saw what he did.
He was standing at an airport
with a phone pointed at his face.
This didn't take, well, not a lot of logistics involved
in that particular thing.
He just formed, he just forced some taxpayer funded staffer.
Here, hold the phone, point it at me.
I'm gonna talk about how great Abrego Garcia is.
But what about your state?
What about your constituents?
What about the people being murdered in your state?
Nothing, absolutely nothing.
So again, let me just equip you with the obvious thing.
Is there anybody in your life who's still believing
the lies about all of this?
Who's still buying into the legacy
media's version of events, tell them about Rachel Moran. Tell them what happened to her, to an
American citizen, to a woman who just went out jogging, mother of five, raped and killed inside
of her own state by an illegal foreign national, should have never been there in the first place.
And the senator from that state, the Democrat, Chris Van Hollen is right now trying to go get hot chocolate
with the MS-13 dude in El Salvador.
That's their priorities.
Thanks for being with me for another episode of Vince.
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