The Dan Bongino Show - Bongino And Crowder Tear It Up (Ep 2133)
Episode Date: November 16, 2023In this episode, Dan teams up with Steven Crowder for a special podcast, tearing into the deep state, the trans shooter’s manifesto, 2024 and more. As Black Voters Drift to Trump, Biden’s Allies ...Say They Have Work to Do Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale's 'manifesto' leaked: Trans murderer vowed to kill 'privileged white kids' at Covenant School Copyright Bongino Inc All Rights Reserved Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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                                         get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host
                                         
                                         dan bongino it's a little different today and the great stephen crowder still look at this
                                         
                                         place like a legit studio we got brick walls and shit like that look at this stuff got a fireplace
                                         
                                         go is that a real fire? Roast some freaking marshmallow,
                                         
                                         get some s'mores in here. And by the way, I look really nice too. Well, I don't mean in that way.
                                         
                                         I mean, obviously I got a face for radio, but Kim, the makeup artist, she's like a professional. I
                                         
                                         usually do my own makeup. That's why I look like shit every day. But look at this. Not no shine,
                                         
                                         no blemishes with this face. So like blending in nice. Folks, I want to thank first the Crowder team.
                                         
    
                                         I'm in his studio today.
                                         
                                         He's been kind enough to have us.
                                         
                                         I got Steve.
                                         
                                         I'm going to bring him in in a minute.
                                         
                                         But it's going to be a stacked show, man.
                                         
                                         I'm super excited.
                                         
                                         We're going to cover this election.
                                         
                                         We're going to cover some self-defense stuff so you don't get whacked out in the street.
                                         
    
                                         We're going to cover the police state and their monster breaking news story.
                                         
                                         By the way, I want to acknowledge the team.
                                         
                                         The Crowder team broke.
                                         
                                         In case you forgot that,
                                         
                                         the cable news with the manifesto
                                         
                                         that they were hiding.
                                         
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                                         or call 1-800-637-4982. So we're in the Crowder studio today. Traveled out to Dallas. Got a book
                                         
                                         signing here tomorrow in Grapevine Mills Mall. Hope to see you all there. We've been packing
                                         
                                         the house with these things for my new book, The Gift of Failure. That is tomorrow at 2 p.m. local
                                         
    
                                         time, Grapevine, Texas. Hope to see you out there. Let's get this party started, man. So the first thing I want to cover is election
                                         
                                         2024, because I know how I feel about it. You all know my take, but there's a guy who's been around
                                         
                                         this space a lot longer than me. You may know who he is because his name is on the freaking wall
                                         
                                         behind me and I'm stealing his studio right now. And by the way, we're streaming on both of his channels,
                                         
                                         on both channels, ours and theirs.
                                         
                                         Want to welcome into the show, in his own studio,
                                         
                                         the legend, effing Steven Crowder.
                                         
                                         Good to see you, brother, with your strange animal shirt on.
                                         
    
                                         I love how you said shit like five times,
                                         
                                         but then said effing.
                                         
                                         I know, it's a fucking...
                                         
                                         But I don't think, yeah, I know.
                                         
                                         You can say fuck too.
                                         
                                         You can say whatever you want.
                                         
                                         You can say we're crossing the stream,
                                         
                                         so we're breaking all the rules today. There's no FCC. But you, no, you look good. You can say fuck too. You can say whatever you want. You can say we're crossing the stream. So we're breaking all the rules.
                                         
    
                                         There's no FCC.
                                         
                                         But you know, you look good.
                                         
                                         Cancer looks good on you.
                                         
                                         You like that?
                                         
                                         I told you it was like some fertilizer.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Don't you think?
                                         
                                         It just metastasized.
                                         
    
                                         That's the greatest opening line.
                                         
                                         Metastasized handsome.
                                         
                                         Dude, you're so fucked up.
                                         
                                         Is that the best line?
                                         
                                         Cancer looks good.
                                         
                                         That was the first thing I said.
                                         
                                         Cause it's like, I have to, cause it's like, if you don't laugh, you know, you'll cry.
                                         
                                         I love.
                                         
    
                                         Or you'll shrivel and lose all your hair.
                                         
                                         The worst thing ever. Not to, this is like, not to be mac it's like, if you don't laugh, you know, you'll cry. Or you'll shrivel and lose all your hair. The worst thing ever.
                                         
                                         Not to, this is like, not to be macabre like this.
                                         
                                         I told you, this is why I'm giving these guys elements before the show.
                                         
                                         I'm like, fuck the elements.
                                         
                                         We're never even going to get to anything.
                                         
                                         Macabre?
                                         
                                         Who are you, Vincent Price?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Not to be macabre.
                                         
                                         I took an SAT course.
                                         
                                         It's the only word I remembered.
                                         
                                         So I got to pretend I'm somewhat.
                                         
                                         No, but you've been doing this for, I mean, you've been around for a long time.
                                         
                                         I appreciate it.
                                         
                                         I'm glad you're here.
                                         
    
                                         And you're one of the few guys who has the balls to, you know, send people over to Rumble, not play the big tech game. So. Yeah, but you've been doing this for, I mean, you've been around for a long time. I appreciate it. I'm glad you're here. And you're one of the few guys who has the balls to, uh,
                                         
                                         you know, send people over to rumble, not play the big tech game. So I quit those motherfuckers
                                         
                                         over at YouTube. And the funny thing is directed by Scorsese standing above me, like didn't hear
                                         
                                         so bad at people. I know I'm going to get so many complaints. My daughter answers emails for us and
                                         
                                         stuff. And she always gets complaints. Tell them. I know I'm trying folks. It's the Queens of me.
                                         
                                         And I'm here with Steve. We go way
                                         
                                         back. I was telling a story with
                                         
                                         you before I met you at CPAC
                                         
    
                                         like 12 years ago when you were MC
                                         
                                         and I don't think people realize
                                         
                                         man, you've been in this business a long
                                         
                                         long time. Like you've seen the entertainment
                                         
                                         business from the other side.
                                         
                                         It's pretty effed up business. So you
                                         
                                         I remember that year. I remember that year because
                                         
                                         I was immediately called to the Fox News second floor with the
                                         
    
                                         VPs and they were going, you made this joke.
                                         
                                         You can't say that.
                                         
                                         You made this joke.
                                         
                                         You can't say that.
                                         
                                         You outed Anderson Cooper as gay.
                                         
                                         That was before he was out as gay.
                                         
                                         And I said that he was like Gomer Pyle, I think playing doctor with Rock Hudson and
                                         
                                         something like that.
                                         
    
                                         Like something that implied he was gay, you know, and they were like, you can't do that
                                         
                                         because we all have to, you know, go to parties with him.
                                         
                                         I'm like, I don't.
                                         
                                         What does it matter?
                                         
                                         And now he's out.
                                         
                                         You know, he lives in a firehouse with his ex-husband.
                                         
                                         Well, you're smart though, man.
                                         
                                         You did what I did.
                                         
    
                                         You like kind of roll your own way, man.
                                         
                                         Having a boss sucks.
                                         
                                         Like, cause when you work for yourself,
                                         
                                         like you can only complain to yourself.
                                         
                                         Like I'm HR.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So when I get some shit to say,
                                         
                                         I just gotta like say it to myself.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Plus you're, how Italian are you?
                                         
                                         Like what percentage?
                                         
                                         50%.
                                         
                                         Is a Sicilian in there? Of course. Oh, okay. so your forefathers are probably slaves right there with moors being
                                         
                                         kidnapped to their coast yeah but you so the other half is is uh irish and german but uh you know that
                                         
                                         so why do you look like partially black i don't know but i get that a lot there was this thing
                                         
                                         on wikipedia they said with gie we're done i used to fuck i told you i'm sorry I told you let's talk swing stage
                                         
    
                                         with the biracial Sicilian
                                         
                                         he gives me this big run down
                                         
                                         what order are we going to go? No order
                                         
                                         because it's Crowder
                                         
                                         this is your show
                                         
                                         you let me hear studio
                                         
                                         we're going to stay for your thing too
                                         
                                         but I get that a lot
                                         
    
                                         years ago there was this list out on
                                         
                                         wikipedia of prominent black conservatives and i was like number four and i'm like how
                                         
                                         but then i was in a weird spot because i'm like i don't want to pretend i'm denial i'm not like
                                         
                                         i'm like yeah exactly but then i don't want to be like culturally appropriating yeah so i said
                                         
                                         i said to my crew i'm like what do we do about this like nothing bro you just don't say anything whatever no i'm italian man you just you just like drop some
                                         
                                         n-bombs every now and then a rap track and a new sound yeah a new soundcloud track and people like
                                         
                                         oh i guess he is i'm fine and then you're wait wait because we got it i want to ask you about
                                         
                                         that because you know you and i are like obsessed with this cancel culture thing it's why we're on
                                         
    
                                         rumble where we you know we respect free expression and all. And you've been talking out about this shit forever,
                                         
                                         especially the culture wars, right?
                                         
                                         But I said to Chris at Rumble, the CEO once,
                                         
                                         and your thoughts on this
                                         
                                         before we get to the election stuff.
                                         
                                         I think that's when cancel culture dies,
                                         
                                         when they come for rap music.
                                         
                                         You're talking about, Steve,
                                         
    
                                         billions of dollars in intellectual capital.
                                         
                                         I mean, they're selling music libraries.
                                         
                                         I saw what Billy Joel sold this for like 400 million.
                                         
                                         Can you imagine if you're like NWA,
                                         
                                         that library's worth a fortune and it gets canceled.
                                         
                                         How much did Billy Joel sell for?
                                         
                                         I think it was like, was it Billy Joel or Elton John,
                                         
                                         but 400 million.
                                         
    
                                         For a place up in Hackensack,
                                         
                                         is that all you get for your money?
                                         
                                         And look, he's the piano man.
                                         
                                         And look, I mean, Taylor Swift,
                                         
                                         that thing with the scooter cat,
                                         
                                         like that's a billion dollar library.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Imagine when the entire rap arena,
                                         
    
                                         they start looking back and you're like,
                                         
                                         you know, talking about bees and hoes and all that.
                                         
                                         When that gets canceled, I think that's the end.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think it's pretty tough.
                                         
                                         I mean, the problem with progressivism,
                                         
                                         for progressivism's sakes,
                                         
                                         you're just moving forward, right?
                                         
                                         You're not necessarily moving in a direction with purpose.
                                         
    
                                         And so that's why you have, you know, gays for Hamas basically right now,
                                         
                                         or you have people who have decided that, oh, you don't know the black people,
                                         
                                         you know, like you, half of you who support Donald Trump, they're not real,
                                         
                                         you know, and so it's, it depends on who's the most oppressed that day,
                                         
                                         where none of it is a tenable position.
                                         
                                         You can't, you can't say misogyny and then also support hip hop,
                                         
                                         you know, the hip hop culture.
                                         
                                         You can't say, oh, hold on a second.
                                         
    
                                         We support Palestine and then have, I mean, you have Rashida Tlaib.
                                         
                                         She had literally a rainbow flag next to a Palestinian flag.
                                         
                                         She doesn't understand that people are thrown off rooftops.
                                         
                                         I mean, if her constituents.
                                         
                                         There's actual video of it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Off the rooftop.
                                         
                                         It'd be raining men for like a week.
                                         
    
                                         It's the craziest show.
                                         
                                         By the way, have you ever sat in a guest seat in your own studio?
                                         
                                         I have.
                                         
                                         Like when I injured my neck, I would sit here because it's tough for me to do that sometimes
                                         
                                         and i and i'm very disruptive so you can just tell me to shut up and you're you know in your
                                         
                                         in your wap tone this is already everybody i've already got people like what the fuck well you
                                         
                                         know what though just so people know we are going to be multi-streaming this and then swap places
                                         
                                         dan will be in this chair uh when we do ladder with crowder and i apologize in advance it's a
                                         
    
                                         it's a crazy show i can't wait to do your show. So this is going to be fun.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         So let's get to this election.
                                         
                                         Cause I want your take.
                                         
                                         I really haven't gotten your take on this so far.
                                         
                                         Let me play this first.
                                         
                                         Uh,
                                         
                                         this is,
                                         
    
                                         this happened the other day.
                                         
                                         So Nikki Haley,
                                         
                                         Steve,
                                         
                                         my humble opinion.
                                         
                                         You're so Italian.
                                         
                                         Let me play this first.
                                         
                                         I know I'm trying to play this accent.
                                         
                                         I've been out of New York folks,
                                         
    
                                         seriously,
                                         
                                         for like almost 20 years.
                                         
                                         Once I get going with like one of my homies like this, it goes right back to like Savage
                                         
                                         Queen style.
                                         
                                         Here's my take on this first.
                                         
                                         So I love primaries.
                                         
                                         I think primaries are good things.
                                         
                                         I think they keep candidates frosty.
                                         
    
                                         Because you know what?
                                         
                                         What happens without primaries, you get no media attention and you're not used to getting
                                         
                                         your ass kicked and stuff.
                                         
                                         And then when you get into a general, you're soft.
                                         
                                         I like primaries.
                                         
                                         But I got to tell you,
                                         
                                         I think this is the single dumbest effing idea
                                         
                                         I've seen out of the primary.
                                         
    
                                         Democrat or Republican,
                                         
                                         this is something with like reparations.
                                         
                                         This is Nikki Haley on a night.
                                         
                                         I'm serious.
                                         
                                         You can say it because you're half.
                                         
                                         This is so bad.
                                         
                                         This is Nikki Haley wants to basically
                                         
                                         dox the entire internet.
                                         
    
                                         Check this out.
                                         
                                         Every person on social media should be verified by their name.
                                         
                                         First of all, it's a national security.
                                         
                                         All of a sudden, people have to stand by what they say.
                                         
                                         And it gets rid of the Russian bots, the Iranian bots and the Chinese bots.
                                         
                                         And then you're going to get some civility when people know their name is next to what they say.
                                         
                                         Accountability.
                                         
                                         And they know their pastor and their family members going going to see it dude yeah what i understand that
                                         
    
                                         the principle right in other words like for example a senator mullins the other day that's
                                         
                                         very different like when someone calls you out like the teamsters to say hey you know you're a
                                         
                                         coward i want to fight you that's very different from someone just expressing an opinion you don't
                                         
                                         assault someone for an opinion.
                                         
                                         But I think that people do get away with too much and not,
                                         
                                         like Mike Tyson said, right?
                                         
                                         The too many anonymous people
                                         
                                         afraid of not getting punched in the mouth.
                                         
    
                                         And I think, so I get the spirit of it.
                                         
                                         But the idea, I mean,
                                         
                                         this would do away with investigative journalism,
                                         
                                         which YouTube already has.
                                         
                                         This would do away with whistleblowers.
                                         
                                         So I think she's trying to pander
                                         
                                         to the old GOP, like tough guy thing.
                                         
                                         Like, yeah, I don't like that these kids are anonymous,
                                         
    
                                         but she doesn't understand
                                         
                                         the ramifications. Or maybe she does
                                         
                                         and she's just planning to work
                                         
                                         for another lobbying group with her exit.
                                         
                                         Think about you and I over at Rumble. We got
                                         
                                         people in my chat. I got hardcore
                                         
                                         chatsters who come in every day.
                                         
                                         We got this McGroin crew
                                         
    
                                         holding McGroin, shaking,
                                         
                                         aching, feeling.
                                         
                                         No, no no they're real
                                         
                                         like you'll see them pop in
                                         
                                         I think everybody's confused
                                         
                                         that's inappropriate
                                         
                                         they're there
                                         
                                         like you'll see them today
                                         
    
                                         we wouldn't do that
                                         
                                         what if they don't want people
                                         
                                         to know who the fuck
                                         
                                         they are like
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         say I work in a school
                                         
                                         and I don't want these kids
                                         
                                         knowing I'm a Trump supporter
                                         
    
                                         the Santa's guy
                                         
                                         or whatever
                                         
                                         it's none of your business
                                         
                                         like why does the government
                                         
                                         need to know that shit
                                         
                                         you and I be on a list
                                         
                                         like day one
                                         
                                         you know that right
                                         
    
                                         oh I'm already on a list you especially I've been on the isis kill list not just the isis kill
                                         
                                         list but like the premium frequent flyer list i'm like yeah i'm like isis kill platinum you're at
                                         
                                         the top yes i am oh yeah like in a google search of people to kill you're on the first yes i'm
                                         
                                         right there that's good i had people from it's good they'll come for you first we're safe
                                         
                                         waste a lot of time on him like oh you're they oh, yeah, you are on the ISIS kill list.
                                         
                                         I said, what?
                                         
                                         They go, don't worry.
                                         
                                         Everyone's on the ISIS kill list.
                                         
    
                                         I said, but the problem is you're on this other list, which they actually want to kill.
                                         
                                         I was like, all right.
                                         
                                         I was a goof.
                                         
                                         I did a goof on YouTube.
                                         
                                         But no, I think this is something that'll probably torpedo her campaign.
                                         
                                         I mean, obviously, I'm not a big Nikki Haley fan.
                                         
                                         I think she's a decent person.
                                         
                                         But this isn't going to do her any favors.
                                         
    
                                         I understand the spirit.
                                         
                                         This is the problem with people who aren't in touch with their voter
                                         
                                         constituency.
                                         
                                         And this is why Donald Trump does so well.
                                         
                                         She thinks it's going to work with the old GOP,
                                         
                                         maybe like the Koch brothers,
                                         
                                         people,
                                         
                                         the people who,
                                         
    
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         I really like the Republican party and we need to,
                                         
                                         we need to send more money to Ukraine.
                                         
                                         Those people will say,
                                         
                                         I don't like people being anonymous.
                                         
                                         I don't either.
                                         
                                         You and I both know,
                                         
                                         right.
                                         
    
                                         You have no skin in the game.
                                         
                                         It's easy to be a fake tough guy. Yeah guy yeah that being said the consequences of removing anonymity it's uh i mean it would be
                                         
                                         you roll like you actually do jits and stuff like i'm gonna i'm gonna get to this self-defense uh
                                         
                                         shit later but you you're like a like you can you can handle yourself you know like that's the thing
                                         
                                         like i'm a ham and egger when you were in when you were rolling in some of these jujitsu places
                                         
                                         sorry guy i promise i'll go back to the order eventually they're like give me the order show That's the thing. I'm a ham and egger. When you were in, when you were rolling in some of these jujitsu places,
                                         
                                         sorry, guy,
                                         
                                         I promise I'll go back to the order eventually.
                                         
    
                                         They're like,
                                         
                                         give me the order to show.
                                         
                                         I'm like,
                                         
                                         it's all fucked up already.
                                         
                                         But you've seen it before.
                                         
                                         Like I was telling a story
                                         
                                         the other day on my show,
                                         
                                         we had this 300 pound lineman,
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if he's from Hofstra
                                         
                                         or whatever.
                                         
                                         He came into Matt Serra's place.
                                         
                                         He's like,
                                         
                                         ah, this shit don't work.
                                         
                                         So Matt's like,
                                         
                                         picks like the smallest guy.
                                         
                                         This guy,
                                         
    
                                         I don't remember his name,
                                         
                                         was Joey Bag of Donuts.
                                         
                                         The kid was like 120 pounds.
                                         
                                         And he's like, I want you to roll with this cat right here.
                                         
                                         But the guy's like, you know, I'll kick this guy.
                                         
                                         Give me the biggest guy.
                                         
                                         He goes, not only am I going to give you the small guy,
                                         
                                         you're going to start out on top, full mount.
                                         
    
                                         The guy's like, this ain't even fair, bro.
                                         
                                         I'm going to kill this kid.
                                         
                                         This guy was getting choked out, dude.
                                         
                                         He had like 30 seconds.
                                         
                                         He was like.
                                         
                                         People have no idea how easy it is for another person to end your life.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         They have no idea.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, we'd have people who come in and go, I'm a black belt.
                                         
                                         And my son, who's 14, is also a black belt.
                                         
                                         Well, congratulations, your check cleared.
                                         
                                         It's not the same thing.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         We would say go and enroll with our blue belt teenagers.
                                         
                                         And by the way, this applies to high school wrestlers, to guys who are in a good boxing
                                         
                                         gym, boxing club, actual combat sports.
                                         
    
                                         It's a good thing for a man specifically to get his ass kicked.
                                         
                                         It's a good thing for a man to fail a rep.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         So you realize, oh, there's a certain point where talk, where conjecture goes out the window.
                                         
                                         So there is definitely value in being called to the mat and men being called to the mat.
                                         
                                         I understand that feeling from Nikki Haley.
                                         
                                         But as a matter of policy,
                                         
                                         it's functionally retarded
                                         
    
                                         and that's putting it generously.
                                         
                                         I love how he brought the show right back to,
                                         
                                         you see that?
                                         
                                         He's a pro.
                                         
                                         Cause I'm like crazy.
                                         
                                         Like I had too much coffee already.
                                         
                                         I'm like all over.
                                         
                                         I'm ready to jump to like segment three.
                                         
    
                                         All right, I want to show you this first
                                         
                                         cause while we're on election 2024,
                                         
                                         you know, listen,
                                         
                                         you and I are in the content production business.
                                         
                                         We got to attract eyeballs and earlobes. That's just what we do. If you don't. And I think what I like most about what
                                         
                                         you and I do working for ourselves is if the show sucks, that's it. Like we can't blame Fox. I can't
                                         
                                         blame Newsmax. It's you got to blame Steve and I got to blame Dan. Sometimes Guy will be like,
                                         
                                         you know what? That show was no good. And I'll look the next day and I'm like, bro, you're right.
                                         
    
                                         That show sucked. Like, you know, we lost 10% of our audience.
                                         
                                         But the thing is
                                         
                                         that that's politics.
                                         
                                         So you and I get this.
                                         
                                         I think nobody gets
                                         
                                         kind of the finger on the pulse
                                         
                                         of like the snapshots
                                         
                                         and soundbites game
                                         
    
                                         and politics better than Trump.
                                         
                                         And a lot of people
                                         
                                         dismiss shit like this
                                         
                                         when he walked into UFC.
                                         
                                         Play that cut.
                                         
                                         I want to show you.
                                         
                                         Get your thoughts on this
                                         
                                         on the other side.
                                         
    
                                         How strong that team is
                                         
                                         making his way into the building.
                                         
                                         One of the bigger mixed martial arts fans I know,
                                         
                                         President Donald Trump, taking his octagon side seat for UFC 295.
                                         
                                         Now, listen, I don't want to oversell this thing.
                                         
                                         DeSantis, a great guy, best governor we ever had.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         You know, I like Vivek, all this thing. DeSantis, a great guy, best governor we ever had. Sure. You know,
                                         
    
                                         I like Vivek,
                                         
                                         a lot of shit he's talking about,
                                         
                                         but you know,
                                         
                                         I was a Trump guy early.
                                         
                                         And I think it's because you've been in the Republican movement for a long
                                         
                                         time.
                                         
                                         These guys just totally do not understand the messaging thing on the
                                         
                                         establishment side at all.
                                         
    
                                         They don't get the Wheaties box shit,
                                         
                                         bro.
                                         
                                         It's got to fit on a Wheaties box.
                                         
                                         This guy gets that image is worth $5 million. Well, you know what else? So here's the thing.
                                         
                                         It's genuine. He's been a fight fan for a long time. A lot of people don't realize, you know,
                                         
                                         when, when the UFC was struggling in the dark ages, they couldn't bend pay-per-view. They would
                                         
                                         do it at Taj Mahal. He's always been a boxing fan. He, uh, I mean, he was honored by Muhammad
                                         
                                         Ali at his foundation, like twice. They were very, very good friends. This is a guy who's
                                         
    
                                         always been a combat sports fan. So he's not showing up to, you know, like something gay, like a soccer game.
                                         
                                         You know, he's showing up to something he actually cares about.
                                         
                                         And by the way, he should also work with a lot of, there were some female fights on that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Love watching the bitches fight.
                                         
                                         Look, look, they still hit like girls.
                                         
                                         They still throw punches like softballs.
                                         
                                         That's what people say.
                                         
    
                                         But, but, you know, they're still, they're good looking when they fight. They tape it down, but I can still. That's what people say. But, you know, they're still good looking when they fight. They tape
                                         
                                         it down, but I can still see
                                         
                                         great tits in that
                                         
                                         division. The only one I can do is
                                         
                                         Bernie. I can't do shit
                                         
                                         anywhere. I cannot do it. A millionaires
                                         
                                         and a billionaire. These motherfuckers.
                                         
                                         I can't believe these.
                                         
    
                                         And Mark Wayne Mullaney on that.
                                         
                                         Bernie Sanders is the peacemaker. You're a United
                                         
                                         States Senator. Sit your ass down. You are too, you phony. Put on some the peacemaker. You're a United States senator.
                                         
                                         Sit your ass down.
                                         
                                         You are too, you phony.
                                         
                                         Put on some deodorant.
                                         
                                         And then when he gets really mad, it cracks.
                                         
                                         That's what we've always said.
                                         
    
                                         People used to get mad.
                                         
                                         My Bernie impression was not, it's Gilbert Godfrey.
                                         
                                         You too, a United States senator. He'd be like, ah, son of a bitch.
                                         
                                         Stop acting like children, you filthy whore.
                                         
                                         He does.
                                         
                                         He gets like a little bit.
                                         
                                         But no, I think you're right about Donald Trump having his finger to the pulse with a lot of this.
                                         
                                         Look, I wasn't a Trump guy in those primaries in 2016.
                                         
    
                                         And then I saw what happened and having experienced this too.
                                         
                                         They are going to come for you.
                                         
                                         They're going to do to him or what they've done to him.
                                         
                                         They're going to do it to you.
                                         
                                         And yeah, it was something that.
                                         
                                         Well, you know, after the manifesto thing,
                                         
                                         which I'm hoping we get,
                                         
                                         because this is like the biggest,
                                         
    
                                         this is a bigger story that you guys cracked
                                         
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                                         It's not about the manifesto.
                                         
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                                         I mean, I didn't do, you did it.
                                         
                                         You guys get all the credit in the world.
                                         
    
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                                         I got a couple of spots.
                                         
                                         I got to read.
                                         
                                         I got to pay for the show.
                                         
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                                         I did.
                                         
                                         I did that.
                                         
    
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                                         making an investment decision. Message and data rates apply. All right, Steve, back to this Trump conversation, because I think you know better than anyone,
                                         
                                         the Republican Party for the last, gosh, 50 years has had a big problem with the black
                                         
                                         vote and the Hispanic vote.
                                         
                                         We're just, we're dealing with a couple of things.
                                         
    
                                         One, our messaging sucks.
                                         
                                         And two, the media constantly calls us Nazis and Hitler and shit like that.
                                         
                                         But Trump seems to have cracked the code.
                                         
                                         I want to play this cut quick.
                                         
                                         This is from Fox News Ingram show about a poll about Latino and Hispanic voters.
                                         
                                         I want your thoughts on the other side.
                                         
                                         Check this out.
                                         
                                         Former President Trump leading Biden, 49 to 45 percent among registered voters.
                                         
    
                                         But when you look inside the numbers, things start to get really bleak for the Democrats among voters younger than 35.
                                         
                                         Things start to get really bleak for the Democrats among voters younger than 35, 48 percent now supporting Trump and 57, 47 percent Biden.
                                         
                                         I can't even read. I'm so shocked. And among Latino voters, Trump's getting 46 percent, which would be historic for a Republican.
                                         
                                         So, you know what? I knew this was breaking bad for Democrats and Trump was cracking the code finally. And by the way, why we don't appeal to black and Hispanic voters candidly, like I never understood.
                                         
                                         I knocked on a lot of doors.
                                         
                                         I ran for office in Maryland.
                                         
                                         They got a huge portion of black voters.
                                         
                                         I got just destroyed.
                                         
    
                                         But when you knock on the door and you actually go and talk to them, you know, I would say to people, they'd be like, are you a Republican or Democrat?
                                         
                                         I said, I'm not going to tell you.
                                         
                                         I said, just give me like 30 seconds.
                                         
                                         Let me tell you what I believe in.
                                         
                                         And then you tell me what I am. And then they would say, you're a Democrat. I i'm not gonna tell you i said just give me like 30 seconds let me tell you what i believe in and then you tell me what i am and then they would say you
                                         
                                         were a democrat i'd say no i'm a republican i talk about like school choice and stuff and i realized
                                         
                                         like gosh a lot of these voters are really confused because the media lies them all the time
                                         
                                         but why do you think trump's like kind of cracked that code a little well i think there are a couple
                                         
    
                                         of things that we do the segment black and white on the gray issues where i just go like i'm doing
                                         
                                         one uh this week i'm just going into a barbershop and just talk with people, you know, black Americans. And they are the moderate wing of
                                         
                                         the Democrat Party. They tend to be very traditional in gender roles. Right. They're
                                         
                                         not into the LGBTQ AIP business. They tend to be very patriotic. They think that there are flaws,
                                         
                                         but a lot of them appreciate America certainly more than white suburban women. So I just think
                                         
                                         it's a messaging thing. It's that the media has been in charge of a lot of it. I think that the
                                         
                                         most important component there,
                                         
                                         because I also have some of these polls,
                                         
    
                                         I don't know which polls Fox News was using,
                                         
                                         but there was a New York Times polls
                                         
                                         and those are still really good.
                                         
                                         So for example, they only had Donald Trump
                                         
                                         at like 22% of the black vote
                                         
                                         and they had him within eight points with the Latino vote.
                                         
                                         So in other words, this is a New York Times.
                                         
                                         It's really good.
                                         
    
                                         But the most telling thing there
                                         
                                         is the 18 to 29 year olds from the New York Times poll
                                         
                                         had Biden only up by one, 18 to 29 year olds from the new york times poll had biden only up by one 18 to 29
                                         
                                         year olds here's the thing if you were to not change the black vote at all i'm not saying you
                                         
                                         should but if you were to not gain any more hispanic votes at all and you just mitigated
                                         
                                         the losses with the under 35 to you know within 10 points republicans would never lose another
                                         
                                         election no there's no math for the dems to win. That's the big number. And then if they could just swap,
                                         
                                         if they could grab about 15% of white female voters,
                                         
    
                                         it wouldn't even be close.
                                         
                                         So that's what's most shocking to me
                                         
                                         because black people still only make up
                                         
                                         13% of the population.
                                         
                                         They vote, the vote turnout is very low
                                         
                                         comparatively to white Americans,
                                         
                                         but that under 35,
                                         
                                         the fact that that's within striking distance,
                                         
    
                                         that is a tectonic shift and i think the reason
                                         
                                         it's happening is and this is just an opinion i don't know but i'm not a political analyst is
                                         
                                         one thing that's universal people hate feeling like they've had the wool pulled over their eyes
                                         
                                         right they really don't yeah because everyone's had someone get whether it's a bad mechanic in
                                         
                                         other words like sometimes we can't relate to the evil of hamas and and israel because we don't live
                                         
                                         in that but we all know being screwed by someone who's-
                                         
                                         There's a fundamental feeling of like fairness
                                         
                                         more than anything.
                                         
    
                                         Like you would rather have less food to eat
                                         
                                         when you're hungry than being satiated
                                         
                                         and having another guy get more food than you.
                                         
                                         You're like, no, I got fucked.
                                         
                                         Like even though you don't want it anymore.
                                         
                                         Yeah, if he did it through underhanded means.
                                         
                                         And so I think what's happening right now is,
                                         
                                         you know, the best thing Biden could do
                                         
    
                                         is never compare himself to Trump on the actual,
                                         
                                         like on the economy or on foreign policy.
                                         
                                         He keeps doing it.
                                         
                                         And so when you keep telling people,
                                         
                                         the economy is great,
                                         
                                         even people who are liberals,
                                         
                                         I don't know that they're becoming conservative.
                                         
                                         They're going, now you're lying to me
                                         
    
                                         because everyone out there knows
                                         
                                         that we are worse off economically.
                                         
                                         Everyone out there knows
                                         
                                         that now we're involved in these proxy wars.
                                         
                                         And so they don't like having the wool pulled over their eyes that's why i think you're seeing this
                                         
                                         number shift toward trump across the board because they're going ah maybe he was a dick but he wasn't
                                         
                                         lying to me like you are you can only lie to people in the face of their lived experience for
                                         
                                         so much before they turn on you i think that's what's happening oh gee you know what i totally
                                         
    
                                         screwed up because i we should have got that dave chappelle snl you ever see the dave chappelle and snl about trump yeah holy shit
                                         
                                         yeah what you just said just he freaking nailed it he's like and he looked over to hillary clinton
                                         
                                         about the tax code and he said i use the tax code and that's why i don't pay higher taxes and then
                                         
                                         he said some shit like uh and he goes and you won't change it because your friends benefit he goes and a star was born yep dude you just you
                                         
                                         just nailed all right i'm on one more and then i'm moving on some other stuff including the worst
                                         
                                         soundbite ever from a politician this is vivek i want to get your take on oh i thought it was
                                         
                                         going to be hitler no not next it's like you're on in the show uh pull up vivek. I'm sorry, guys, to skip ahead if I'm messing up your production.
                                         
                                         Here's Vivek calling out Rana, who runs the RNC.
                                         
    
                                         Your thoughts on this.
                                         
                                         Check this out.
                                         
                                         We've become a party of losers at the end of the day.
                                         
                                         We've cancered the Republican establishment.
                                         
                                         Let's speak the truth.
                                         
                                         I mean, since Rana McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018 2020 2022 no red wave that never came
                                         
                                         we got trounced last night in 2023 and i think that we have to have accountability in our party
                                         
                                         for that matter ron if you want to come on stage tonight you want to look the gop voters
                                         
    
                                         in the eye and tell them you resign i will turn over my yield my time to you listen steve i'm
                                         
                                         kind of agnostic because i really don't
                                         
                                         give a fuck like i never pay attention to the rnc either like unless it was like you were a friend
                                         
                                         of mine in charge of it like i just don't donate there i donate to individuals so i really don't
                                         
                                         care but having said that that vivek is another one that like trump kind of gets the pulse yeah
                                         
                                         that was probably like the best opening statement i've heard in a long time where i was like
                                         
                                         you know when tim scott was talking it's a nice guy but you just want it to be over you want
                                         
                                         to hear yeah you want to hear the next guy talk when he was i was sitting there like wow man like
                                         
    
                                         he really nailed it on that one yeah and he um you know we did an ash wednesday where we sat down
                                         
                                         with him this was after the second debate we told him like hey what happened to the first debate
                                         
                                         vivek first debate you came out you were throwing bombs second one you were trying to be buddies
                                         
                                         with them and he said you know i know and uh he went back out and
                                         
                                         he went he was true to form at least his original form so yeah look ron is awful if you look at her
                                         
                                         record it's a losing record um this this romney broad so that's a valid point and i will say i
                                         
                                         think ron uh ron de santis great governor has done great amazing the primary concern that people have
                                         
                                         is not who he is but in order to run nationally,
                                         
    
                                         who he has to be involved with.
                                         
                                         And you know,
                                         
                                         and by the way,
                                         
                                         that doesn't mean that these are bad people.
                                         
                                         What it means is they have a way of doing things and they're out of touch
                                         
                                         with the actual voter,
                                         
                                         the RNC.
                                         
                                         So that's why you go,
                                         
    
                                         how was,
                                         
                                         how was Ron DeSantis doing so poorly considering the lead that he had?
                                         
                                         It's not necessarily Ron DeSantis.
                                         
                                         It's the people saying,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
                                         you need to do it this way,
                                         
                                         Ron.
                                         
    
                                         And so I think Vivek is trying to separate himself from the pack.
                                         
                                         The criticism is a lot of people are saying, is he just saying what we want to hear?
                                         
                                         What level of experience does he have?
                                         
                                         But I think it's important that at least someone is pointing it out.
                                         
                                         We need to have those different ideas.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it kind of irks me a little bit.
                                         
                                         So now, listen, this is like talking about like inauthenticity being a problem.
                                         
                                         Is there a more inauthentic mofo anywhere in the country than Gavin Newsom?
                                         
    
                                         French laundry like slick back hair dude.
                                         
                                         This dude is the...
                                         
                                         I want you to listen to this one. This may be
                                         
                                         the single worst
                                         
                                         double... Folks, this is a stand
                                         
                                         up like, here's my...
                                         
                                         Here's my... I would... Kiss...
                                         
                                         Put your lips on my ass
                                         
    
                                         moment. Take lips.
                                         
                                         You don't have to invite me twice. Catch him to my ass moment. Take lips. You don't have to invite me twice.
                                         
                                         Hatch him to my ass moment.
                                         
                                         I've never seen a politician say kiss my ass better than this guy.
                                         
                                         Here's Gavin Newsom.
                                         
                                         Keep in mind, he lords over California, descending into chaos.
                                         
                                         You can't even find a freaking U-Haul because everybody's, it's like Snake Plissken escaped
                                         
                                         from LA surfing on the thing the place has
                                         
    
                                         fallen apart there's homeless people shitting in the streets everywhere they finally clean up san
                                         
                                         francisco for the commies and gavin newsom says this i know folks say oh they're just cleaning
                                         
                                         up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town um that's true because it's true
                                         
                                         yeah is that not it yeah right on the ass yeah just like kiss my big ass you voters he's just
                                         
                                         you're like oh there's gonna be there's gonna be another half to this yeah oh there isn't
                                         
                                         right you're just gonna apologize and i'm explain something. There was some federal edict in the way
                                         
                                         and Secret Service waved it or something.
                                         
                                         He's like,
                                         
    
                                         no, no, it's just a big fuck you guy.
                                         
                                         He's like, well, look,
                                         
                                         we can't have the leader of the CCP
                                         
                                         covered in human shit, can we?
                                         
                                         Where's Gerald?
                                         
                                         That's for you.
                                         
                                         Oh, we didn't know.
                                         
                                         Can we bring him in at all?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, we can bring him in.
                                         
                                         I love Gerald.
                                         
                                         I feel like we've neglected Gerald. Oh, he's going to be in later. He might be working on something now. Gerald, man we can bring him in. I love Gerald. I feel like we've neglected Gerald.
                                         
                                         Oh, he's going to be in later.
                                         
                                         He might be working on something now.
                                         
                                         Gerald, man, you got to come.
                                         
                                         I will tell you, though, I will challenge you.
                                         
                                         One person more disingenuous.
                                         
    
                                         Gretchen Whitmer, Michigan.
                                         
                                         She's the worst I've ever seen.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you know what?
                                         
                                         Remember when she blocked off certain sections of the store during COVID
                                         
                                         and then her husband was outside, like on the lake,
                                         
                                         like fishing.
                                         
                                         I know the guy who operated the boat lift where her husband called.
                                         
                                         I know the guy there up in Northern Michigan.
                                         
    
                                         I feel like it's not really a show.
                                         
                                         And he said,
                                         
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         Gerald,
                                         
                                         I can't move on from this segment without getting your thoughts on,
                                         
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         the,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
    
                                         crew for the hair product.
                                         
                                         This is Gavin Newsom probably uses about a quarter gallon,
                                         
                                         a crew every single day.
                                         
                                         So he's out in the French laundry. He tells everyone. Good restaurant. Yeah, beautiful. I'm sure it's
                                         
                                         probably one of those places that does like foie gras and shit. I heard he was more of a dapper
                                         
                                         Dan man. I want to see. I want pomade, Dan. I don't know about you guys. I'm assuming you guys
                                         
                                         were probably like middle-class humps like me. My dad was a plumber. My mom worked in a supermarket.
                                         
                                         Lower middle class over here. I prefer a lower. He had an Italian plumber my mom worked in a supermarket lower middle class over here i prefer a lower italian plumber dad to be while we're on the topic of french laundry i go my friends like
                                         
    
                                         a fancy wine dude i don't know shit about wine i just got into it but it's it's cool so we went
                                         
                                         to this like fufu wine tasting thing which isn't really my bag of donuts but what the fuck i'll
                                         
                                         try it right but they serve food in there too so it's one of those like seven course
                                         
                                         meals yeah you ever have one of you can't eat anything and you're embarrassed because i'm he
                                         
                                         comes out he's like this is the foie gras with the finishing and i'm like you get me a fucking
                                         
                                         quarter pound i'm not eating that shit but then i did you ever do this i feel bad because the chef
                                         
                                         put a lot of time so i mashed it up like i ate it and spread it around so it looked like I, but I didn't
                                         
                                         really eat any.
                                         
    
                                         Have you ever done that?
                                         
                                         It's good cover.
                                         
                                         I'm a sommelier.
                                         
                                         I'm literally a wine business.
                                         
                                         What do you think of Schaefer?
                                         
                                         Like, that's my new thing.
                                         
                                         Schaefer?
                                         
                                         I love Schaefer.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Fantastic wines.
                                         
                                         But I'm getting into like Scarecrow.
                                         
                                         I've seen gay pride parades straighter than this conversation.
                                         
                                         Listen, I'm new rich.
                                         
                                         I'm like, I'm like, you ever see the unsinkable Molly Brown from the Titanic?
                                         
                                         The new money. That's me. I'm so proud that I'm not old money and I'm like, you ever see the unsinkable Molly Brown from the Titanic, the new money? That's me.
                                         
                                         I'm so proud that I'm not
                                         
    
                                         old money and I'm not cultured at all.
                                         
                                         Rich people are horrified around me.
                                         
                                         I grew up eating at Steak and Ale with a petite
                                         
                                         top sirloin, well done with a
                                         
                                         bucket of A1 sauce, so I completely understand
                                         
                                         what you're saying. I got into wine after
                                         
                                         not drinking until I was 26 years old,
                                         
                                         so I understand it and I can hook you up
                                         
    
                                         with some good bottles of wine.
                                         
                                         What bothers me more than the food that they bring out is they all act,
                                         
                                         everyone there, they act like, of course.
                                         
                                         They go like, and this is the half quail on the seashell.
                                         
                                         You're like, of course.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the half quail on the seashell.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I don't spread it around.
                                         
    
                                         I just put it in their face.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm not doing this.
                                         
                                         Someone bring me out of five guys.
                                         
                                         Like, if someone just says.
                                         
                                         We're in Texas. We got a shout out. What a burger. We got them in Texas. Someone bring me out of five guys. Like, if someone just says- We're in Texas.
                                         
                                         We got a shout out, what a burger.
                                         
                                         We got them in Texas.
                                         
                                         God forbid you don't say that shit.
                                         
    
                                         But if someone just who works there goes like,
                                         
                                         look, I'm a server.
                                         
                                         Like, of course we don't eat this shit at home.
                                         
                                         Like, this is obviously a gimmick.
                                         
                                         And then you go, okay, I'll try it.
                                         
                                         It's a novelty.
                                         
                                         But they act as though they all know.
                                         
                                         That's what bothers me.
                                         
    
                                         Of course, I'll try new things.
                                         
                                         I'm pretty open-minded to food.
                                         
                                         I'm not a picky eater.
                                         
                                         But when they just act like, yes, of course, this is a sea foam ramoulade or whatever.
                                         
                                         He's like, what?
                                         
                                         What am I eating?
                                         
                                         The ocean?
                                         
                                         What are you talking about?
                                         
    
                                         I'm always embarrassed, though.
                                         
                                         They come out and they'll tell you, like, this is a reduction.
                                         
                                         I go, I don't know what that is, bro.
                                         
                                         Like, what does that even mean?
                                         
                                         They just make this sauce thicker.
                                         
                                         Well, that's what I'm doing with your tip.
                                         
                                         They just try to make it.
                                         
                                         It's reductioning all the time.
                                         
    
                                         But Gerald, because I love you guys' show,
                                         
                                         and it's not a good show without you.
                                         
                                         Your thoughts on Newsom.
                                         
                                         I think this guy, and maybe Gretchen Whitmer, you're right,
                                         
                                         maybe a little phonier,
                                         
                                         but I think everybody's afraid Newsom's going to jump in,
                                         
                                         which I don't think Biden's going to be the nominee.
                                         
                                         I do think Newsom's going to come in,
                                         
    
                                         but I don't think he's a powerhouse we think he is.
                                         
                                         I think this guy'd be so easily exposed by even a semi-decent politician because he's such a phony my problem
                                         
                                         with that and i agree with you to be easily exposed my problem i don't think they care
                                         
                                         on the left i don't think the exposure of of gavin newsom because gavin newsom was i think
                                         
                                         he was the mayor of san francisco and then became the governor of california i spoke to one of his
                                         
                                         business partners at a winery because he was a part owner of three wineries
                                         
                                         out of Napa Valley.
                                         
                                         And he told me,
                                         
    
                                         Gavin has been preparing for president his entire life.
                                         
                                         What's Plumjack, right?
                                         
                                         And Odette, those three.
                                         
                                         Because I was in a restaurant once.
                                         
                                         And this guy is an amazing guy.
                                         
                                         I know, I know.
                                         
                                         I didn't know this.
                                         
                                         So I got this friend down the block from me.
                                         
    
                                         He's like a super rich cat.
                                         
                                         But he's a nice guy and an act like that.
                                         
                                         Great one.
                                         
                                         So they're always embarrassed because I always come out in a t-shirt, like even in these places.
                                         
                                         And one day they were like, hey, try this wine out.
                                         
                                         And they brought out this Plum Jack.
                                         
                                         And my friend's like, who's a huge conservative.
                                         
                                         I love this guy.
                                         
    
                                         He's an orthodontist.
                                         
                                         He's like, he put up like the garlic and the cross for the Nosferatu.
                                         
                                         He's like, get that shit out of here.
                                         
                                         This poor Samuel Yeh guy.
                                         
                                         I was like whoa whoa whoa
                                         
                                         is that like shitty wine he goes no it's all right because that's gavin newsom's i said bro
                                         
                                         if someone gets me in a picture in a restaurant drinking gavin newsom's wine he saved my ass i
                                         
                                         might have been fired it's like it's the getty family i believe gavin newsom and then there's
                                         
    
                                         one other guy but the owner one of the co-owners of that winery is actually a very cool relatively
                                         
                                         conservative guy and it's a hard space
                                         
                                         to be conservative and a lot of those napa wine growers and great they're very conservative but
                                         
                                         if you get to the upper echelons it tends to go a little bit further left i don't think that people
                                         
                                         accurately estimate the challenge that we will have on the republican side with somebody like
                                         
                                         a gavin newsom he has no soul he will do anything to get to that office His entire life is built around becoming president of the United States, period.
                                         
                                         Nothing else matters to this.
                                         
                                         Do you ever see the Adam Carolla clip with him?
                                         
    
                                         When Carolla, oh, dude.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         When he just dismantles him.
                                         
                                         It's like 10 years old.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         He came on Adam Carolla's pod.
                                         
                                         And Carolla, he's trying to make the case about some racial thing.
                                         
                                         And Carolla just eats this guy's lunch.
                                         
    
                                         And he's like, well, I don't understand.
                                         
                                         Why don't black people have that?
                                         
                                         And he doesn't want to say it, but you could tell Newsom just didn't have an answer.
                                         
                                         I got to take a quick break.
                                         
                                         My last break, two spots.
                                         
                                         I want to get to the self-defense thing because you roll and stuff,
                                         
                                         and I always want to hear it.
                                         
                                         Gerald, you're not going anywhere.
                                         
    
                                         I'm just sitting here.
                                         
                                         Okay, cool.
                                         
                                         All right, these spots.
                                         
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                                         what's that they got the corolla oh you oh we got to play wait we got to play but i just want to say
                                         
                                         before i go like i knew i'd have a good time with you motherfuckers because i have before when i've
                                         
    
                                         done the show.
                                         
                                         But given that this has been such a blast, when I open my studio, you got to come out.
                                         
                                         I'll fly out.
                                         
                                         But you got to come out. Yeah, for sure.
                                         
                                         You got to bring these guys.
                                         
                                         We'll probably have to do our show from your studio because-
                                         
                                         That's what we'll do.
                                         
                                         We'll switch it around.
                                         
    
                                         We'll do it reverse.
                                         
                                         All right, folks, you got to watch this.
                                         
                                         These guys, the Crowder team's awesome.
                                         
                                         This is Carolla and Gavin Newsom getting his ass absolutely handed to him.
                                         
                                         This is glorious. Check this out. Half of
                                         
                                         African-Americans in the state of California, roughly half
                                         
                                         Latino families, have no access to
                                         
                                         a checking account or an ATM. Things we
                                         
    
                                         take for granted. They don't have a checking account. What's wrong with them?
                                         
                                         What's wrong with them? Because they don't have
                                         
                                         the resources to suck those things away.
                                         
                                         Why do we have them?
                                         
                                         Why do we have them?
                                         
                                         For a lot of different reasons, but roughly half
                                         
                                         those families don't whether
                                         
                                         they are armenians have them so where they end up is like that cashing places i want to know
                                         
    
                                         why those groups why those two groups don't have anything and a lot of it just happens to be that
                                         
                                         we can talk about no they're hardly flawed but they're struggling genetics are making their work
                                         
                                         okay so but do asians have this problem i mean a, a lot of communities have. It sounds like it's cranky.
                                         
                                         It's not just black and Hispanic.
                                         
                                         No, but I'm giving you...
                                         
                                         But why did you bring up black and Hispanic?
                                         
                                         Because the magnitude is ominous.
                                         
                                         But why so many of them?
                                         
    
                                         It just happens to be the magnitude.
                                         
                                         Do we not plan it?
                                         
                                         Not at all.
                                         
                                         Well, what happened to them?
                                         
                                         There are a lot of issues in that the communities are struggling.
                                         
                                         Why are they struggling?
                                         
                                         A lot of different reasons.
                                         
                                         Lack of opportunity.
                                         
    
                                         Hispanics have been here. Blacks have been here longer than we've been here well we can we can surmise what about asians they were
                                         
                                         put in internment camps yeah we in fact they all initiated out of san francisco all right chinese
                                         
                                         exclusion act came out of the check are they the check a lot a lot of asians certainly do
                                         
                                         the only reason why tell Tell me about Western Union.
                                         
                                         There's so many more.
                                         
                                         The magnitude and percentage...
                                         
                                         But there's no way to figure out how that happened.
                                         
                                         We could talk about it. You know what I'm dealing with?
                                         
    
                                         I don't want to have a sociological debate.
                                         
                                         For sure. Why would you?
                                         
                                         Why would you want to do that? Because the person from the
                                         
                                         Times wouldn't write good things about you if you did that.
                                         
                                         No, that's not the case.
                                         
                                         You don't want to deal with reality.
                                         
                                         You want to deal with reality. I want to deal with reality. No, you want to deal with reality.
                                         
                                         I want to deal with reality.
                                         
    
                                         Is that
                                         
                                         not the way to handle
                                         
                                         that shit? Why?
                                         
                                         What happened to them?
                                         
                                         Is it genetics?
                                         
                                         What about the Asians?
                                         
                                         At MAL, back in the day when I was
                                         
                                         begging to be on any show, I was such a
                                         
    
                                         loser in the business and you're like, you'll take anything. No, I was like a scrub. It was like 10 years ago. And WMAL, back in the day when I was like begging to be on any show, I was like such a loser in the business. And you're like, you'll take anything.
                                         
                                         No, I was like a scrub.
                                         
                                         It was like 10 years ago.
                                         
                                         And WMAL, which we're actually on now, it's one of our stations in D.C.
                                         
                                         They were like, do a weekend show for like to whatever.
                                         
                                         So you're like, oh, yeah, you come in.
                                         
                                         I get a caller at the end.
                                         
                                         I swear, although it was short, I had almost the exact same interaction.
                                         
    
                                         The guy was, he was against school choice.
                                         
                                         And I kept, it's like a 30 second call, but I'm
                                         
                                         going to try to find a tape one day.
                                         
                                         Bottom line is I keep trying to get out of the guy who keeps insisting black parents
                                         
                                         are somehow incapable of choosing where their kids go.
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         Like, just if you're a racist, like just say it, bro.
                                         
                                         Like stop dicking around and just say it.
                                         
    
                                         I know it's, it's, it really is.
                                         
                                         The school choice thing is I've challenged my audience anywhere anyone offer me a valid argument against school no one
                                         
                                         can do it where i'm just saying look before we can get a school choice to school vouchers meaning
                                         
                                         instead of just sending it to a school attach the money to the student before we even get to
                                         
                                         reducing the funding every time i've had that conversation with someone who's even a hardcore
                                         
                                         democrat they go yeah okay that makes sense the only argument they make is, well, it's racist because then the black kids
                                         
                                         who are in neighborhoods where they have bad schools
                                         
                                         may not be able to travel.
                                         
    
                                         It's like, yeah, but right now they have no hope.
                                         
                                         They have no choice.
                                         
                                         They're stuck at that.
                                         
                                         At least they can maybe get on a bicycle
                                         
                                         and go to another school.
                                         
                                         Like it's not going to be worse off.
                                         
                                         So it's one of those issues where, yeah, it's just,
                                         
                                         it is, the left is so incredibly racist.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, a good example is like,
                                         
                                         going to get to the New York subway story.
                                         
                                         But think about all of these, you know, stop Asian hate.
                                         
                                         Remember that was a hashtag?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         When they thought they could blame conservatives.
                                         
                                         Yes, they thought.
                                         
                                         And then they saw, oh, wait, there's a disproportionate number of crimes.
                                         
    
                                         But now the same people are in the street like, kill the Jews.
                                         
                                         And nobody's saying anything.
                                         
                                         Well, they use them.
                                         
                                         It's the craziest thing.
                                         
                                         They use them as pawns.
                                         
                                         Do you ever, isn't this nuts?
                                         
                                         Like, you know what?
                                         
                                         I'm like, if I got, this is me. Well, you have to say something because the last thing you said was kill the Jews. No, no, I know. So make sure you like you know what I'm like this is me
                                         
    
                                         well you have to say something
                                         
                                         because the last thing you said
                                         
                                         was kill the Jews
                                         
                                         so make sure you
                                         
                                         and the other day
                                         
                                         what did I say
                                         
                                         I was on the radio show
                                         
                                         and my producer's like
                                         
    
                                         you realize you just said Nazi
                                         
                                         oh I said
                                         
                                         I said
                                         
                                         no I said
                                         
                                         you cannot see
                                         
                                         it's kind of like saying
                                         
                                         master
                                         
                                         yes but we know what you meant
                                         
    
                                         you gotta like say
                                         
                                         like one time
                                         
                                         I was talking about
                                         
                                         how this guy
                                         
                                         how Trump is a master debater and I said it too quick and master debater he said whoa whoa whoa
                                         
                                         he's not like beating off on stage like i said master now i pause i would never need to never
                                         
                                         never beat my man not once folks because all the ladies love me and when you say i cannot see and
                                         
                                         you need to separate that i want to get to the self-defense thing because like i said you and
                                         
    
                                         i share something in common and my audience loves it, especially if we can give them some tips.
                                         
                                         But you said something before
                                         
                                         that is so spot on.
                                         
                                         You know, I'm 48.
                                         
                                         I'm nobody's tough guy anymore.
                                         
                                         I get my ass kicked tomorrow.
                                         
                                         I got arthritis all over the place.
                                         
                                         But back in the day
                                         
    
                                         when I was rolling with these guys,
                                         
                                         people and especially dudes
                                         
                                         overestimate their ability
                                         
                                         in the street to handle themselves.
                                         
                                         They've seen a Bruce Lee movie,
                                         
                                         a Chuck Norris movie.
                                         
                                         So, hey guys, can we play the police one first?
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
    
                                         I want to get to the shooting one second.
                                         
                                         This is a police officer in the subway, Steve.
                                         
                                         And I always tell people, as you know, you got to control the hips.
                                         
                                         You'll see this guy gets it and you'll see he's in that mid range,
                                         
                                         which is like the worst spot.
                                         
                                         Either be out or be in.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         See folks, he knows you're either out or you're in.
                                         
                                         You're mid range.
                                         
                                         You're going to get, you're going to get effed up. Here, watch this. There we go. See, folks? He knows. You're either out or you're in. You're mid-range, you're going to get effed up. Here, watch
                                         
                                         this.
                                         
                                         There we go. See? He's in the danger zone.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's the worst. He's getting pounded
                                         
                                         right there. He's getting pounded. And by
                                         
                                         the way, I'm only a morning quarterback. This guy's
                                         
    
                                         a solid guy. Yeah. He's, you know,
                                         
                                         we can all learn shit. Well, you have to understand these police
                                         
                                         officers get maybe a week of hand-to-hand
                                         
                                         training. Yeah, that's it. You know you can't
                                         
                                         learn that. No, you can't.
                                         
                                         He's got them, and they always go for the head every single time.
                                         
                                         They go for the head every single time, right?
                                         
                                         And by the way, that is what the guy is doing to the cop is,
                                         
    
                                         please suplex me, city, if the cop knew what he was doing.
                                         
                                         If he's grabbing around all backwards.
                                         
                                         Dude, Dan Severn.
                                         
                                         Literally, you don't even have to.
                                         
                                         You just grab the hips, and that guy is going headfirst into the con.
                                         
                                         You see?
                                         
                                         He just said it, folks.
                                         
                                         You got to control the hips.
                                         
    
                                         This is the one mistake, so keep rolling.
                                         
                                         So this guy, I don't know what this other guy is like. He's grabbing his arm, he just said it, folks. You got to control the hips. This is the one mistake. So keep rolling. So this guy,
                                         
                                         I don't know what this other guy,
                                         
                                         he's like grabbing his arm,
                                         
                                         which isn't going to work.
                                         
                                         Now see, now he's controlling him.
                                         
                                         See, the guy's not able to punch him.
                                         
                                         Now he's controlling him.
                                         
    
                                         He's starting to figure it out.
                                         
                                         You're going to see
                                         
                                         he goes for the hips now.
                                         
                                         And then the fight
                                         
                                         totally changes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the other guy's
                                         
                                         just basically getting in the way.
                                         
                                         This guy's doing all the work.
                                         
    
                                         I got to give this guy props.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         Now he's right in the spot.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         See, control. Yep. Now the guy's getting tired because bad guy's got about
                                         
                                         90 seconds of juice there you go yeah and now you'll see he mounts him and he's finally controlling
                                         
                                         the hips so he's kind of in a modified half guard there because the legs are around that looks a
                                         
    
                                         little bit like you are yeah you're correct modified half guard folks when they kind of split
                                         
                                         the legs and the mouth but you said it before one
                                         
                                         of the things i try to tell my audience is if you get into shit in the streets bad guys have
                                         
                                         superpowers and we don't i don't know why it is it's a cosmic law of evil people and pcp and pcp
                                         
                                         and drugs you're not gonna have it they will but if you don't know what you're doing on the ground
                                         
                                         you are gonna get freaking smoked man and you're gonna get killed i think the bigger point here is like, you know, when this happened,
                                         
                                         I mean, for example, like with Derek Chauvin,
                                         
                                         cops don't, they don't know.
                                         
    
                                         So a lot of police officers, unfortunately,
                                         
                                         they do have to go to their gun and their belt
                                         
                                         because they can't subdue, you know, in a sale.
                                         
                                         Now it's a huge mistake to say no chokeholds.
                                         
                                         Hey, you and I both, like,
                                         
                                         if you've ever done boxing or any striking,
                                         
                                         like if you've ever been, had your bell rung knocked out,
                                         
                                         it's terrible.
                                         
    
                                         Being choked up, it's like taking a nap.
                                         
                                         That's why my nose looks like this.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but being choked up, it doesn't hurt at all.
                                         
                                         People who don't realize, you go to sleep in three seconds.
                                         
                                         This is fake.
                                         
                                         My nose isn't real.
                                         
                                         This is a cadaver nose.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, this isn't real.
                                         
                                         My nose is all smashed in.
                                         
                                         Do you know who the cadaver was?
                                         
                                         No, but what if it was a liberal?
                                         
                                         What if it was a liberal?
                                         
                                         If you have a liberal nose, that'd be fucked up.
                                         
                                         What if it was a black guy and now he's more than half black?
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
    
                                         Does that work that way? It could. I think have a i think you have a cadaver nose pass people do you
                                         
                                         know everybody's always like you always talk about the crazy i share everything with my audience
                                         
                                         so i boxed for years before i found jujitsu and i block with my head i had like the italian rock
                                         
                                         i was gonna say yeah nothing like the original stereotype yeah yeah and i block with my face so
                                         
                                         you ain't so bad yeah you ain't so bad you ain't so bad. Yeah, you ain't so bad.
                                         
                                         You ain't so,
                                         
                                         come on, Creed.
                                         
                                         You ain't so bad.
                                         
    
                                         So my nose has been smashed in
                                         
                                         for 30 years.
                                         
                                         And the only reason
                                         
                                         I had to do this
                                         
                                         is, you know,
                                         
                                         I don't give a fuck about my,
                                         
                                         not like what the hell,
                                         
                                         but I was on the radio
                                         
    
                                         and people were like
                                         
                                         really bitching.
                                         
                                         They're like,
                                         
                                         tell Dan to blow his nose
                                         
                                         because we used to tape
                                         
                                         the podcast
                                         
                                         so I could just take it
                                         
                                         because I could never breathe.
                                         
    
                                         So my friend,
                                         
                                         my best buddy,
                                         
                                         man's a plastic surgeon.
                                         
                                         He's a super smart guy.
                                         
                                         He's like,
                                         
                                         I'm fixing that damn
                                         
                                         freaking,
                                         
                                         he has a fake nose.
                                         
    
                                         This shit ain't real.
                                         
                                         But now,
                                         
                                         now I can breathe.
                                         
                                         Good for you.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         Nice.
                                         
                                         That's a Flonase commercial.
                                         
                                         On the cop story,
                                         
    
                                         shouldn't there be like
                                         
                                         an equal time
                                         
                                         of ground and pound?
                                         
                                         Like, you know,
                                         
                                         the cop,
                                         
                                         everybody was like
                                         
                                         trying to step in
                                         
                                         and be like,
                                         
    
                                         all right, you've controlled him now.'s like like you get 30 seconds just to
                                         
                                         do your thing beat the crap out of the lesson i think so the police officers should have to learn
                                         
                                         basic control and they should have to uh you know they should have to display aptitude every single
                                         
                                         year they should have to retest because the truth is if you know how to control somebody
                                         
                                         um then you don't have to use these tools but when you say okay we don't want firearms okay we don't want tasers and we don't want chokeholds what are you left with
                                         
                                         beating them with the club but i think a lot of people don't really understand out there the
                                         
                                         reality of violence so we've we've done some segments on here we've kind of shown people
                                         
                                         like oh you're monday morning quarterback right you get the krav maga or the the aikido guys like
                                         
    
                                         i would do this and i got tag a fist a, a monkey claw and shit. And you're like, that doesn't work.
                                         
                                         So people who live in a delusional,
                                         
                                         and it really is, it's denying reality,
                                         
                                         kind of like with the gender bending theory right now,
                                         
                                         they then, they dig their heels in.
                                         
                                         You need to, particularly with something like this,
                                         
                                         be all in, like you said, or all out,
                                         
                                         meaning you're out of range where he can't hit you.
                                         
    
                                         He can't pull a knife.
                                         
                                         You can run away. Or if you're in, if you don't know how to fight,
                                         
                                         look, you want to grab them so that
                                         
                                         they can't generate those punches because a 200 pound man on drugs, if he doesn't have
                                         
                                         to know anything, he hits you.
                                         
                                         He has a shot at really hurting you.
                                         
                                         And a lot of people want to bow up and play tough guy.
                                         
                                         And you'll see this with police officers.
                                         
    
                                         Do not hold that guy out.
                                         
                                         But that's because they don't have the training.
                                         
                                         They don't have the training.
                                         
                                         The police unions out there, they're not saying, hey, we need better hand to hand training
                                         
                                         so that our officers can defend themselves and subdue an assailant.
                                         
                                         Because then people see that as violence.
                                         
                                         Like, no, no, it's anti-violence.
                                         
                                         The beauty of good grappling, of jiu-jitsu, is you can end a life or you can take your drunk uncle outside.
                                         
    
                                         You don't have to hurt him.
                                         
                                         You know, and that's why I have so much respect for these guys.
                                         
                                         Maybe we're messing around a little bit.
                                         
                                         Imagine, like you just said, Joe, like some guy's legit like trying to kill you.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And then you subdue them your adrenaline
                                         
                                         and you have to
                                         
                                         it's like now stop
                                         
    
                                         oh no it's over
                                         
                                         and it is
                                         
                                         it's gotta be like
                                         
                                         that's your job
                                         
                                         but right
                                         
                                         there's like a side of a man
                                         
                                         that's like
                                         
                                         fuck that
                                         
    
                                         but you ever
                                         
                                         there's a Matt Serra video
                                         
                                         that went around
                                         
                                         oh in Vegas
                                         
                                         calm down
                                         
                                         calm down
                                         
                                         calm down
                                         
                                         and he's like
                                         
    
                                         he's holding this guy down
                                         
                                         holding his arms
                                         
                                         and the guys are like
                                         
                                         trying to hit him
                                         
                                         and then the cop comes up and the cop's like get off of me he's like, he's holding this guy down, holding his arms. And the guys are like trying to hit him.
                                         
                                         And then the cop comes up and the cop's like, get off of me.
                                         
                                         He's like, are you going to take control?
                                         
                                         Are you going to, this guy's going to, calm down.
                                         
    
                                         Greatest video ever.
                                         
                                         You want to see how effective jujitsu is.
                                         
                                         Take Steve's advice.
                                         
                                         Go put in a search engine, Matt Serra, Las Vegas. He was a UFC welterweight champ or something, middleweight champ.
                                         
                                         This guy's like drunk.
                                         
                                         He probably outweighs him by 50 pounds.
                                         
                                         Matt's just like, he's not even like burning any energy.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         That goes to show you how effective.
                                         
                                         But firearm stuff too.
                                         
                                         I want to show you this video.
                                         
                                         This guy, so he's rolling into his house.
                                         
                                         A couple of mutts jump over the fence.
                                         
                                         They follow him in.
                                         
                                         The guy's in one of these like fatal funnels,
                                         
                                         but he knows what to do right away.
                                         
    
                                         He does something, whether he did it by instinct
                                         
                                         or whether he did it because it was tactical.
                                         
                                         I tell people this all the time.
                                         
                                         If you're stuck and can't get away, he does something here.
                                         
                                         Check this out.
                                         
                                         So here they go to jump the fence.
                                         
                                         They're coming in.
                                         
                                         Now this guy's in a funnel, which is already big.
                                         
    
                                         Watch what he does.
                                         
                                         Whether he does it by, there we go.
                                         
                                         Create some space.
                                         
                                         Create some space.
                                         
                                         There he goes, gets his gun.
                                         
                                         Can you guys play that again?
                                         
                                         Guy, you know the part I like.
                                         
                                         Watch right here.
                                         
    
                                         The guy comes up, watch where he has a coffee cup in his hand.
                                         
                                         I tell people all the time,
                                         
                                         if you are in a situation like this,
                                         
                                         option one is always get away, period.
                                         
                                         If you can get away, get away.
                                         
                                         I tell everyone, if you can't,
                                         
                                         it is a natural human instinct
                                         
                                         if anything comes at your eyes.
                                         
    
                                         Even if I do it now, I'll go, Steve, you're going to blink. This guy, whether he knows it or not, you see when he throws the coffee cup,
                                         
                                         the guy automatically backs, even though it's a coffee cup, he ain't going to do anything.
                                         
                                         He's got a gun. He's got a gun. It's like gun, coffee. Here we go. Gun, coffee cup. And the guy
                                         
                                         automatically backs up. If you've ever been in a fight and you, I know you've rolled before,
                                         
                                         when you're sparring, when shit comes at at your face it's like a natural instinct maybe you know it wouldn't have
                                         
                                         gone down like that though if he had if he had blackout coffee i'm like is that brutal
                                         
                                         and then we're just like you grab his nuts which we call monkey grabs peach in kung fu i do a little
                                         
                                         kung fu but um don't do that no it's great he creates the space uh here's the thing that i will
                                         
    
                                         say the guy who runs in um this is why we need the dirty hairy and the death wish and you're fool but um don't do that no it's great he creates the space uh here's the thing that i will say
                                         
                                         the guy who runs in um this is why we need the dirty hairy and the death wish and you're seeing
                                         
                                         that people see the the they want law and order um that man forfeited his right to live i don't
                                         
                                         know if it's an empty gun i don't know if he just wants to take my stuff there are too many people
                                         
                                         who get shot who get stabbed who get killed someone's on drugs the second someone puts you
                                         
                                         in a position where it could potentially be your life or his or your family safety or his guess what you forfeit your right to live and so
                                         
                                         i i want to read more headlines man shoots intruders or woman shoots even would-be rapist
                                         
                                         rather than man dead in the ditch as a can we dispel a lot of mist too by the way you ever been
                                         
    
                                         kicked in the nuts in a fight fucking hurts the what you want to know my worst nut shot story
                                         
                                         did you want to know my worst nut shot story?
                                         
                                         Do you want to know?
                                         
                                         Grappling?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         It was my Johnny boy out there.
                                         
                                         His daughter was at her fourth grade birthday party.
                                         
    
                                         And she had a lightsaber.
                                         
                                         And it was non-retractable.
                                         
                                         Dude. And here's the thing.
                                         
                                         Every guy out there, look, you can comment below and it helps the algorithm.
                                         
                                         She jousted and she jousted my ball against my thigh.
                                         
                                         So it like rolled.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Like it like rolled, you know what I mean? Like, like,
                                         
    
                                         like,
                                         
                                         like it had rolled and I fell to my knees and I was sure I was going to
                                         
                                         throw up.
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         I wasn't.
                                         
                                         And she felt so bad.
                                         
                                         She was so sweet.
                                         
                                         It wasn't an accident,
                                         
    
                                         but yeah,
                                         
                                         people don't.
                                         
                                         Now that being said,
                                         
                                         if you're high and you know,
                                         
                                         adrenaline and stuff,
                                         
                                         you're not going to feel it.
                                         
                                         The only way to subdue someone like that is take out the eyes from the
                                         
                                         equation.
                                         
    
                                         Some or choke them out.
                                         
                                         Like you have to literally put them to sleep.
                                         
                                         Shut the computer down.
                                         
                                         You have to shut the computer down.
                                         
                                         I love when people have these fairy tales to it,
                                         
                                         or like, you know, punch him in the nose,
                                         
                                         and he's going to, bro, I've seen,
                                         
                                         you ever see a UFC fight, guy's got no nose.
                                         
    
                                         His nose is in the back of his head.
                                         
                                         They don't even give a shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Cut my eye, Mick.
                                         
                                         They don't give a shit.
                                         
                                         You got to like.
                                         
                                         I don't want to cut your eye.
                                         
                                         It's perfect.
                                         
    
                                         Got a perfect, got a perfect cadaver.
                                         
                                         Dude, you're really good.
                                         
                                         Did you always know you had this talent for voices?
                                         
                                         No, I couldn't sing or dance.
                                         
                                         Can't do shit, man.
                                         
                                         I can't dance either.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Not even half?
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to tell you, I dance.
                                         
                                         You know, but here's the thing too.
                                         
                                         And you know, you talk about this a lot.
                                         
                                         And I don't want to, but I know that you talk about this.
                                         
                                         The most important statistic for people to know is around 30 000
                                         
                                         people take away suicides between 12 and 20 000 people die from firearms each year right as far
                                         
                                         as homicides uh the amount of lives saved according to sources that want to hide this is at minimum
                                         
                                         half a million the highest end three million the estimate is closer to two million defensive uses
                                         
    
                                         of firearms each year versus call it 15,000 people taken.
                                         
                                         So when they say if it saves one life, well, what if it saves 2 million every single year?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And honestly, guys, like how many happen that the guy just doesn't report it?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, there are probably some people out there who are like-
                                         
                                         A shot never needs to be fired.
                                         
                                         Bygones be bygones.
                                         
    
                                         Like, let's just let this go.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But yeah.
                                         
                                         But last topic, because this is, and then we'll roll over and then we're doing your
                                         
                                         show.
                                         
                                         I got to sit in a guest seat
                                         
                                         you're taking over your studio
                                         
                                         this is like a big rumble
                                         
    
                                         by the way
                                         
                                         thank you to Rolly
                                         
                                         he's got a little statue
                                         
                                         here going
                                         
                                         hey that's supposed to be
                                         
                                         glued to the desk
                                         
                                         what's going on guys
                                         
                                         did he just Hulk that
                                         
    
                                         and didn't even realize it
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         Joe Lewis kept knocking it over
                                         
                                         when he'd come in
                                         
                                         with the door hammer
                                         
                                         like only I can do it
                                         
                                         only I can do the rest
                                         
                                         it's like a fucking Marvel movie.
                                         
    
                                         It's the guinea in the stone.
                                         
                                         Hey!
                                         
                                         I pulled it.
                                         
                                         Come over.
                                         
                                         Joe will be like, no!
                                         
                                         Trying to lift that motherfucker up.
                                         
                                         That's hilarious.
                                         
                                         So you guys, I was really pissed about this story
                                         
    
                                         because you guys did a huge, huge public service.
                                         
                                         The Nashville Manifesto from the Nashville trans shooter,
                                         
                                         that thing disappeared into the ether.
                                         
                                         You damn well know if the narrative was different,
                                         
                                         it would have leaked out the next day
                                         
                                         and every Trump supporter
                                         
                                         and every Republican,
                                         
                                         me, Steve, and everyone in this room
                                         
    
                                         would have been accused
                                         
                                         of being accomplices to murder
                                         
                                         and they hid it forever.
                                         
                                         You guys got it.
                                         
                                         You protected your sources.
                                         
                                         What pissed me off about the story
                                         
                                         is the next day I was watching
                                         
                                         a number of different outlets
                                         
    
                                         and I heard one
                                         
                                         gave a shit
                                         
                                         but everybody kind of like
                                         
                                         glossed over the fact
                                         
                                         that you did
                                         
                                         it was like
                                         
                                         it leaked to conservative
                                         
                                         no it didn't leak
                                         
    
                                         to conservative media
                                         
                                         it leaked to the Crowder show
                                         
                                         and I don't like that shit
                                         
                                         when people disrespect
                                         
                                         people like that
                                         
                                         I was kind of annoyed
                                         
                                         but that was a huge scoop
                                         
                                         well and actually
                                         
    
                                         on our show
                                         
                                         which is coming up next year
                                         
                                         you don't even need
                                         
                                         to change the channel we have some new information uh regarding
                                         
                                         the manifesto so we're still making sure to vet it right now as we speak but um no i gotta say
                                         
                                         look i can't take credit for it like the only thing i can take credit for signing the fronts
                                         
                                         of checks and making it a part of the vision of mug club right it's like if it were just a business
                                         
                                         decision it wouldn't make sense it's expensive but um they do a great job there needs to be more
                                         
    
                                         investigative journalism
                                         
                                         and i have i really have the luxury of complete confidence when they come to me they say we have
                                         
                                         this it's absolutely airtight i know they've done their due diligence and i know that when you have
                                         
                                         that other people are going to try to dismiss it gerald knows i said watch they're going to try and
                                         
                                         say it's not real then when they have to acknowledge it's real they're going to attack the messenger
                                         
                                         and of course you saw it unfortunately from some you know uh even people on the right where it becomes some some schwanson measuring contest it's like
                                         
                                         look we even told people steal it rip it we don't care grab it disseminate it just don't lie about
                                         
                                         it and of course you had some people who were lying about it and adding texts to the manifesto
                                         
    
                                         that's why we make the original um available but yeah this is something like we want the whole
                                         
                                         manifesto you know we we had give you an idea of the process so
                                         
                                         to verify these documents and i have to read this but i don't get it wrong because the investigative
                                         
                                         team like make sure you say these things so you don't reveal any sources and we're not in any
                                         
                                         legal hot water yeah um there was a source who sent this to us like a vague tip okay to verify
                                         
                                         the documents my investigative team they met with that source who leaked the manifesto to review the
                                         
                                         original text message right this kind of thread which included photos leaked the manifesto to review the original text message, right? This kind of thread, which included photos of the manifesto.
                                         
                                         Then they read through the text, verifying the chain of events where we had an insider to say to some degree, right?
                                         
    
                                         The, I guess you would say the orbit of Nashville PD, as well as a third party source.
                                         
                                         And then we reverse searched the phone number who sent images to that source verifying that in fact it had taken place
                                         
                                         where they claimed it had taken place that the insider who had information with the pd in fact
                                         
                                         did so there was a long process before we came out with this for other people to say no no it's not
                                         
                                         true you know the mayor is going to run an investigation they've put some officers on paid
                                         
                                         leave um which we've said like our sources as safe as in their mother's arms we will go to jail to
                                         
                                         protect them so i I appreciate everyone,
                                         
                                         everyone who's joined a mug club.
                                         
    
                                         And honestly,
                                         
                                         the first step is rumble getting off of YouTube and big tech.
                                         
                                         There's our stuff was removed from YouTube.
                                         
                                         How do you join mug clubs?
                                         
                                         So my guys,
                                         
                                         yeah,
                                         
                                         lot of credit.com slash mug club.
                                         
                                         And it's,
                                         
    
                                         you just keep watching on rumble.
                                         
                                         So you'll watch this show today and you'll watch our show for free on rumble.
                                         
                                         But our show goes for another hour on mug club.
                                         
                                         You click that join button.
                                         
                                         You get to keep watching,
                                         
                                         but YouTube has already removed our episode with the manifesto yeah this is where i wanted to go
                                         
                                         with this and then we'll talk about it more on your side when we switch seats here but
                                         
                                         you know i'm really into this whole police day thing for obvious reasons i mean one of the most
                                         
    
                                         transformative experiences in my life is you know when you're sitting there in a secret service
                                         
                                         academy and you graduate and you raise your right hand like i'm by you guys that meant something to
                                         
                                         me i mean you swear an oath it means something and you know that constitution matters it's not
                                         
                                         just a piece of parchment like those values mean something you know i i had an uncle who you know
                                         
                                         i got the bronze star with a v cluster i don't even like talking you know goosebumps when i talk
                                         
                                         but you can see but uh you know he was shot in the back in vietnam protecting his friends and
                                         
                                         his story you can read it online it's like like amazing. It's Gregory Ambrose.
                                         
                                         Like, you know, all right, it was Vietnam.
                                         
    
                                         It wasn't the most popular war, but that flag meant something to him.
                                         
                                         And he was an idealist and he went and did it.
                                         
                                         They said, go and do this, whether you agree with the mission or not.
                                         
                                         And he died.
                                         
                                         He was 19.
                                         
                                         Like he's dead.
                                         
                                         So that oath means something to me.
                                         
                                         And the fact that we live in a place now where you guys do traditional legitimate journalism
                                         
    
                                         there's no way this isn't journalism and the police state folks don't target that they come
                                         
                                         after you says to me like brother man that constitution don't mean to other people what
                                         
                                         it means to us you know what and this is why i never did the the blanket back the blue because
                                         
                                         i'm going look there are a lot of good cops and there are a lot of bad cops, too.
                                         
                                         And of course, when Black Lives Matter saying that's not the solution, what we need is like we've talked about better training, better accountability.
                                         
                                         The police unions need to have they need to be entirely restructured, right?
                                         
                                         Because police unions protect the bad officers just as much as they actually don't protect good officers like you.
                                         
                                         And we have had to talk with good police officers.
                                         
    
                                         Not we're not just talking about Nashville.
                                         
                                         We're talking about across the country who say look this is a real problem within the department
                                         
                                         the bad cops yeah they're they're running up against the blue wall of silence we're going
                                         
                                         this is wrong and so people don't realize there's a civil war going on within local police forces
                                         
                                         and then in certain areas you get one you get a bad da or you get a bad police chief or a
                                         
                                         commissioner and guess what they decide how the department, and those people are scared into silence.
                                         
                                         And you know what you end up with?
                                         
                                         You actually end up with the kind of police force
                                         
    
                                         that you don't want when you have the leftist progressive.
                                         
                                         Can I take this out to the federal level too?
                                         
                                         Yes, no, absolutely.
                                         
                                         We've only got a couple of minutes
                                         
                                         before we get to switch seats,
                                         
                                         and I want to get your thoughts on this
                                         
                                         for my crew that tuned in here.
                                         
                                         Just stay, by the way.
                                         
    
                                         We're going straight through, folks,
                                         
                                         so don't worry about it.
                                         
                                         The FBI at the federal level,
                                         
                                         I have zero faith in them.
                                         
                                         And I just,
                                         
                                         I've never in my life.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry if I'm stumbling.
                                         
                                         I just don't want to be like hyperbolic and I don't want to sound ridiculous,
                                         
    
                                         but I've never in my life in my 48 years on the planet,
                                         
                                         honestly felt like the FBI was going to come knocking on my door.
                                         
                                         Like I was like,
                                         
                                         whatever,
                                         
                                         like they don't do that.
                                         
                                         So obvious.
                                         
                                         I swear on my life,
                                         
                                         man,
                                         
    
                                         every day I look,
                                         
                                         I have a glass front door.
                                         
                                         I'm like, one of these days, someone's going to come up with a commission book.
                                         
                                         Do you ever feel that way?
                                         
                                         They came knocking on mine.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's why I'm asking you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, no, what happened was, remember the Gavin or Whitmer, the kidnapping plot?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         There was a bunch of, yeah.
                                         
                                         So there was a guy named, and we've talked about this, a guy named Jason Chambers.
                                         
                                         J-A-Y, Sin Chambers.
                                         
                                         And when, back in the day, it was uh utah antifa was planning on killing people
                                         
                                         showing up at a ben shapiro i believe it was you know i don't know if it was university of utah
                                         
                                         um was it was it university of utah so i don't know it was in utah salt lake city so antifa they
                                         
                                         handed out knives and they handed out tasers and we caught them and the local pd into the media
                                         
                                         did nothing and we had a guy who was the head of the digital terrorism unit with the fbi and nothing
                                         
    
                                         came of it and i remember thinking it was really weird like he kept communicating back and forth and uh then at
                                         
                                         one point there was some stuff that he kind of offered up that we thought that's weird that
                                         
                                         seems like a liability we said no you know we're probably pretty good and then this guy disappeared
                                         
                                         we never heard from him again and he was one of the people named in the as a fed and the kidnapping
                                         
                                         whitmer plot i think what happened this is my opinion i think what happened is he thought he
                                         
                                         was going to sting us you know relatively popular show and then realized we're kind of basic bitch like
                                         
                                         conservative christians where we weren't doing anything illegal right so he moved on this guy
                                         
                                         was a fed this guy was a fed and he sold and he never did anything i didn't know that yeah
                                         
    
                                         jason chambers and we still to this day cannot reach him so if he would like to correct the
                                         
                                         record he can what happened is i think okay i can just say this he offered us at one point because
                                         
                                         i was speaking publicly and i was like hey you know i'm out there on stage and we've had these death
                                         
                                         threats what's the best kind of like body armor it's recommendation and uh he said well if you
                                         
                                         you can use this said but technically that's not civilian legal you know it's only but i could get
                                         
                                         it for you and i said you know what i'll just get the civilian legal one because it's not really
                                         
                                         worth the risk i think that would have been the trap oh dude you'd be in a you'd be in the clink
                                         
                                         right now and you can still get
                                         
    
                                         body armor, by the way.
                                         
                                         It's totally legal.
                                         
                                         Colt Sneetson would be
                                         
                                         adding another chapter
                                         
                                         posthumously.
                                         
                                         So think about that.
                                         
                                         Here, a comedy show.
                                         
                                         Yes, we do journalism,
                                         
    
                                         but a comedy show.
                                         
                                         And we had to deal with it.
                                         
                                         So yeah, they'll definitely
                                         
                                         come in through your door.
                                         
                                         It shouldn't be a glass door.
                                         
                                         You should have like,
                                         
                                         you should have rebar.
                                         
                                         What are you doing?
                                         
    
                                         Glass door?
                                         
                                         That makes it super easy.
                                         
                                         It's a pretty heavy glass door.
                                         
                                         I'm not funny. How do you? Is it like hockey glass? I wish I was super easy. It's a pretty heavy glass door. I'm not funny.
                                         
                                         How do you?
                                         
                                         Is it like hockey glass?
                                         
                                         I wish I was more funny.
                                         
                                         You are funny.
                                         
    
                                         No, I'm not funny.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you are.
                                         
                                         You are.
                                         
                                         Guy, am I funny?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We all think you're funny.
                                         
                                         Guy is like self-admittedly,
                                         
    
                                         so I'm not putting him in.
                                         
                                         He's like the driest cat ever.
                                         
                                         That's why I love him.
                                         
                                         Because we're together all the time
                                         
                                         and I'm not a chatty Cathy anymore
                                         
                                         for my blackout, brutal,
                                         
                                         awakened coffee, right?
                                         
                                         So I'll come down there
                                         
    
                                         and at the end of the show,
                                         
                                         someday we'll have a bed show
                                         
                                         and Guy will be like,
                                         
                                         oh, that sucked.
                                         
                                         That was not a good show.
                                         
                                         I'm like, oh, thanks, bro.
                                         
                                         Hey, Guy, what's your ethnicity?
                                         
                                         What's your background?
                                         
    
                                         I'll keep it private.
                                         
                                         No, get out.
                                         
                                         Bullshit.
                                         
                                         He's Brazilian.
                                         
                                         Oh, he's Brazilian?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay, good.
                                         
                                         Then you're fine.
                                         
    
                                         You don't need to worry
                                         
                                         about the next sketch. I was like, oh, the first sketch that happened at the break, I'm like, oh boy, he might get upset. He's Brazilian? Yes. Oh, okay, good. Then you're fine. You don't need to worry about the next sketch.
                                         
                                         I was like, oh, the first sketch that happened.
                                         
                                         I was all shy.
                                         
                                         Oh, boy, he might get upset.
                                         
                                         Get out of here.
                                         
                                         You wanted to come out.
                                         
                                         You know you're part of the show when you come out here.
                                         
    
                                         Everybody gets thrown in the lines.
                                         
                                         Brazilian can be anything.
                                         
                                         It's like you.
                                         
                                         But he's so like, yeah, I mean, well, you've already exposed my, you know, ethnicity.
                                         
                                         I mean, you can pass for anything.
                                         
                                         Maybe anyone else.
                                         
                                         You're like Abercrombie.
                                         
                                         All right, we got to do your show now.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                         Well, hold on.
                                         
                                         Do you have anything you got to wrap up and tell people?
                                         
                                         Okay, well, let me just say this.
                                         
                                         I'm not going to bring it up necessarily.
                                         
                                         We have a couple of chats just thanking us for doing the mashup here.
                                         
                                         We did find the Matt Serra clip, but we'll play that on a lateral starter.
                                         
                                         Oh, you found it?
                                         
    
                                         We'll get to it in a minute.
                                         
                                         Unless you want to leave with that.
                                         
                                         I don't know if we have enough time for it right now.
                                         
                                         This is his show.
                                         
                                         I don't care.
                                         
                                         We don't have to run on a specific clock as long as, I mean, I'm going to have to go,
                                         
                                         you know, drink like some coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right,, I mean, I'm going to have to go, uh, you know, drink, uh,
                                         
                                         like some coffee.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Tell you what,
                                         
                                         I'm going to do this.
                                         
                                         I'll wrap up my thing.
                                         
                                         You go have your coffee,
                                         
    
                                         do your thing.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But I mean like a couple of minutes,
                                         
                                         don't take like another 20 minutes or something.
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         no.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
    
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And then we're going to continue with our show with Dan in this seat.
                                         
                                         It's going to be,
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         just so you know,
                                         
                                         like our show is moves like a little, it moves, it moves at a weird clip. So it's going to be, I mean, just so you know, our show moves like a little,
                                         
    
                                         it moves at a weird clip.
                                         
                                         I don't know anything about that. My show is
                                         
                                         very organized.
                                         
                                         All right, all right.
                                         
                                         I totally screwed the whole thing.
                                         
                                         But this guy is the man, you know?
                                         
                                         And seriously, you had
                                         
                                         the cancer scan. We were all praying for you.
                                         
    
                                         Are you done with that? Yeah, I hope so.
                                         
                                         I mean, I figure if I go like five, ten more years, like I'm good. And I don't
                                         
                                         mean that in like a weirdo kind of way. Like I don't want to die, but I mean, like God was good
                                         
                                         to me, man. I lived a good life. I was at the UFC last weekend and I'm sitting there and, you know,
                                         
                                         Dana's got us in like the front row next to Tucker and freaking Trump. And I swear,
                                         
                                         man,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
    
                                         I said to myself,
                                         
                                         if I go next week,
                                         
                                         like I'm good.
                                         
                                         I really mean it.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         I don't mean to be like a weirdo.
                                         
                                         You're not going next week.
                                         
                                         I love my daughters and so on.
                                         
    
                                         I want to see every,
                                         
                                         I want to see them,
                                         
                                         but God's been good to me and I don't sweat it,
                                         
                                         man.
                                         
                                         I really don't.
                                         
                                         I don't think about one day I work out every way.
                                         
                                         Chemo.
                                         
                                         I never missed the show during chemo.
                                         
    
                                         I'd work out the day after
                                         
                                         chemo I go in the sauna it smelled like a paint factory you sweat all that shit out but I like I
                                         
                                         was glad like we've opened up the show you are funny yeah sometimes only with him around because
                                         
                                         he's like contagious but we open up the show with it talking about it but you know I I do laugh about
                                         
                                         it all the time well I honestly like people in chat let them like I thought you were gonna look
                                         
                                         like all progeria and shit, like Charlie Brown.
                                         
                                         You look great.
                                         
                                         I didn't know.
                                         
    
                                         I was like, I thought, you know,
                                         
                                         part of me thinks that maybe you're faking it.
                                         
                                         Maybe you were faking it.
                                         
                                         We got a little veins going too.
                                         
                                         Come on, get a wide shot.
                                         
                                         I mean, come on, give me some time.
                                         
                                         There we go.
                                         
                                         Ask me for directions.
                                         
    
                                         He was faking it for sympathy.
                                         
                                         Remember that man who joked in New York?
                                         
                                         He's the only man who went through chemo
                                         
                                         and got stronger.
                                         
                                         Every other New Yorker would ask an Italian
                                         
                                         for directions. However, you ask an Italian for directions in New York, wherever it chemo and got stronger when you ask an Italian for directions
                                         
                                         however
                                         
                                         you ask an
                                         
    
                                         Italian for
                                         
                                         directions in
                                         
                                         New York
                                         
                                         wherever it is
                                         
                                         it's this way
                                         
                                         with a flex
                                         
                                         it's this way
                                         
                                         but no I feel
                                         
    
                                         great man
                                         
                                         thanks for
                                         
                                         listening
                                         
                                         we're going to
                                         
                                         keep going
                                         
                                         into the hour
                                         
                                         though
                                         
                                         no no no
                                         
    
                                         I'm good man
                                         
                                         so Steve's just
                                         
                                         leaving while I get
                                         
                                         in front of the
                                         
                                         camera because
                                         
                                         this is what we
                                         
                                         do here
                                         
                                         he could go
                                         
    
                                         around but he's
                                         
                                         like ah fuck fuck it.
                                         
                                         Folks, please subscribe to his show as well. You'd be doing it.
                                         
                                         I realize I keep looking down the cameras up there.
                                         
                                         Rumble, we love you.
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         we've been all about free expression and providing a platform to people who
                                         
                                         can't speak anywhere else because they speak the truth.
                                         
    
                                         And I hope what we just talked about with that manifesto and real journalism
                                         
                                         being done.
                                         
                                         I know like there was a lot of sarcasm and we did a lot of fun stuff in the show,
                                         
                                         but this is real. This election's real. You learning how to defend yourself is real.
                                         
                                         And us exposing this police state, trying to hide this manifesto, that's real too. So we really appreciate it. I'll be on the radio show later too, so don't miss that. And then the book
                                         
                                         signing, please, if you're in the Grapevine,
                                         
                                         Texas area, tomorrow, I want to pack the house. It's in Grapevine Mills Mall.
                                         
                                         Books a million.
                                         
    
                                         At two o'clock local time here in Texas. So don't miss that.
                                         
