The Dan Bongino Show - Donald Trump Jr. on JD Vance, Tim Walz, and Kai Trump | Episode 05 - 03/21/25

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

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Good to be here. I mean, I feel honored to be in the lineup that you had going on this week. I mean, that's a pretty solid start. I think people should know that all of the people I've interviewed this week happen to be close friends. Like, everybody, every one of these guys is a buddy. And of mine as well. Of yours, yes, that's what I mean.

Yeah. That's great. In fact, let's start with JD Vance because he he made a big splash yesterday. He was here on our program. We had a great interview with him. And then the the media went absolutely wild. They were furious at him. Can we play the clip of him that everybody's talking about? This is him talking about Kamala Harris consuming vodka shots before every single meeting. Take a look at this. You talked earlier about the role of the vice president and how it's different with each presidency. How are you doing the job differently than Kamala did it? The, well, the, if we're going to stick the landing on that,

that's where he responds. That was not the response that got the media earlier. You talked earlier about the role of the vice president and how it's different with each presidency. How are you doing the job differently than Kamala did it? Well, I don't have four shots of vodka before every meeting. That's one way I think that Kamala really tried to bring herself into the role is these word salads.

And I think that I would need the help of a lot of alcohol to answer a question the way that Kamala Harris answered questions. So good. I mean, tough but fair. Tough but fair. I mean, it's legit. I mean, I've never seen someone that could get to the ranks that Kamala Harris did who could not complete a sentence. Yes. And you saw that. It was just such an empty suit. It's like a caricature created entirely by the media and a democratic apparatus that this is going to be the leader of the free world. I'm like yeah and you saw it you always knew it kind of intuitively but during that presidential

run you saw it so early when it was like okay fine what would you do differently? I wouldn't do anything differently. Fine. You got it wrong. Even the left was killing her for that. Like just answer something on the border on Ukraine, on any one of the major issues that was destroying the nation. But when she was asked, you know, a second time and a third time and a fourth time and a fifth time and was in front of my outlets, like listen, if you go on the view and basically almost end your political campaign as a Democrat like if you can't get through the view how you gonna get through like Putin well gee it's the most basic question imaginable like it's the kind of thing that you

would think to yourself while you're brushing your teeth before the interview yeah they're probably gonna ask me what would my presidency be how would it be different yeah you know and that's the most basic possible question. And it was, what's her face? Sunny on the view. Sunny Hostin, who was like, how would your presidency be different? She was like, not at all. It'd be the same exact thing.

Exactly the same. Everything that we've failed at, we're going to continue failing at. And I'm like, how do they not know to adjust? Hey, I get it. Everyone's had a bad answer. Everyone's put their foot in their mouth, whatever it was, or maybe got caught off guard. But like you're running a presidential campaign like adjust, big time. Overcome. It was like it.

Was it weird to you? It was almost a cruel joke that every single person at the top of that administration couldn't speak in English sentences. So so Joe Biden, obviously, for mental reasons, couldn't do that. Kamala Harris, for different mental reasons, couldn't do that. Kamala Harris, for different mental reasons, couldn't do that. And then Corrine Jean-Pierre, literally the White House spokeswoman, was incapable of speaking in English. What happened? Listen, the reality, I mean, everyone in the administration, they valued whatever diversity check boxes they could check much more than competence. Right? It was very simple. That's what it was like. Oh, Karina Jean-Pierre, she was the first foreign-born lesbian black woman. It's like, well, if you check enough boxes, eventually you're going to come up with a combination of possibilities that, like, well, there's not another person in the world that meets all those other requirements.

And that's what it felt like to me because it was so obvious no one knew what they were talking about, but it didn't matter because that was what they cared about. And that's what it felt like to me because it was so obvious, no one knew what they were talking about. But it didn't matter because that was what they cared about. And that's why you could see it was just, you know, abject failure. And I guess to an extent, I always say we sort of needed those last four years for the rest of the country to wake up. As brutal as it was for me. Yes, you feel like that? I do, you know, and it sucked, right? They went after our businesses. They went after this. I'm like the most subpoenaed man in the history of the world, both

congressionally and otherwise and, you know, the lawsuits and the lawfare and this. But then you combine the American public finally seeing that with a failing economy, endless wars, all of this. And they're like, you know what, maybe Trump isn't that bad. They saw even the lawsuits were so ridiculous and so that people are like, yeah listen, if you want to go after him for something, fine, but like when no one believes any of it is real anymore and

they see it's only happening in areas where they could weaponize it, they see it's only happening in Atlanta and DC and New York City. It's like, oh, oh, this is probably all nonsense. And it took a while. It was like what I dealt with during the early days of Russia, Russia, Russia. And I did 50 hours of congressional testimony

for treason, a crime punishable by death. And I'm sitting there like, well, I must have been around someone like because I wanted to believe like, well, nobody, it's the FBI. It's the there has to be part of you. There was a part of that. There was a credible like explanation for this. I wanted to believe that, like everything I believed about America actually existed. Yeah. And it turns out like I thought I was fighting to preserve the America

I believed existed. Turns out I out like I thought I was fighting to preserve the America I believed existed. Turns out I was actually fighting to help create an America that has been missing for a long time. Yeah. And it, but like I said, even me in that spot under fire, they're trying to throw you in jail and worse, right? Like, it's like, well, there has to be something to it. And it took me a while to be like, no, there doesn't have to be anything to it. It's all BS. You know, our buddy Dan Bongino, now deputy director of the FBI, thank God, he would always use this expression, is it bad enough yet? That was the phrase that he would use

over these past few years. And it turns out by the 2024 election, America had concluded yes, it's bad enough. Yes, it was. It's bad enough. Let me go back to JD Vance for a moment because I want to figure out how he became vice president of the United States. That's key. It's not a secret that you were pushing for him, that you wanted him to be the guy. He's fantastic. There were a lot of doubters out there about him. And not just among the kind of the inner circle world of Republican politics, but in the general public. People are not as familiar with J.D JD Vance as they probably should have been or hadn't yet become acquainted with him. Tell me about that fight. What was that like pushing to get JD Vance to be the guy? Well, it started pretty early. I had actually read his book when it first came out. When we were mid-teens, mid-20-teens, whatever it was, I was like, wow, this is a guy that could...

The story, the backstory coming out of Appalachia and the poverty and breaking that cycle and becoming a business guy. And then that was way before even politics. And then it was like, oh, wow, he's a Trump hater for a while. And it was sort of interesting. I knew some friends that knew him be like, you got to get together with this guy, like you guys would be best friends. And so we started doing that early, you know, 2020, 2021, whatever it was, and started talking. I'm like, and he was, he had come to the

sort of the conclusion that actually Trump was right, and I was the guy that was being manipulated. He came there on his own, right? There's guys that in politics that sort of, okay, I'll say what I need to say right now to get into a position. There's other guys that actually change their entire worldview. Yes. On their own, organically. Listen, I think Marco Rubio at State has done that. 10 years ago, what he believed would have been more neocon. He's there on his own. He's doing a great job.

Marco, in his case, he was famously a part of what they called the Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill with Lindsey Graham. And his views have definitely changed a lot. And on their own. And I think he's doing an incredible job at State but so I got to sort of know JD real well and I saw that sort of Ohio Senate primary and like you know I don't think it's a secret to say that uh Republicans in the Senate you know with the exception of a very small handful generally like our weakest

crew right there's just not many guys you'd want in a foxhole, in a political fight. It's sort of- They like being comfortable. They like being comfortable. And it's really easy to be a Republican in Washington, DC that will come as a surprise to people if you just give in when it matters.

Like you can be like 90% conservative. Right. As long as you fold on the big fights, which the Republicans in the Senate very reliably do for the Democrats. And so it's an easy existence. So I saw sort of a talent. I saw a depth. But like he can take complex issues and talk about whether it's foreign policy or otherwise and like simplify them to where regular people can understand it. He can be really wonky to if he wants to, but he actually knows how to translate that down to people who aren't policy wonks, or whatever it may be. And so I was like,

this guy's just really impressive. I love the backstory. I think it's important for people to be able to see you can still live that American dream. It still exists, because he did that. So how does the lobbying effort play out? Because obviously, you would think, I mean, it's got to be a big deal for your son and your kids that you approached your father and you're like, but I think JD is really good. I think you should seriously consider him. Yeah, what does that look like? Well, so you know, I went to him during that Ohio Senate race

primary where JD was like number three or four. Yeah, in a primary. And you know, oftentimes, you don't want to get involved in a primary because who knows, you certainly don't want to back the number four guy usually even if he's great, because like if you lose that, you know, oftentimes, you don't want to get involved in a primary because who knows, you certainly don't want to back the number four guy usually even if he's great, because like if you lose that, you know, you sort of expend a lot of political capital. And that's, you know, I try to be as pure as I possibly can. But there's realities that you have to deal with in Washington. But I was

like, listen, like, this guy's gonna be a rock star. We just got to let him, you know, get there. Tucker actually got pretty involved. You know, I remember he did it kind of famously on his national television show. He featured JD a lot. He believes in me, openly endorsed me. And a lot of other guys were trying to block him out. So we got that over the line. He performed incredibly in those debates. He was the only guy that wasn't more neocon-y and all of that. Understood no one wants the endless wars despite what Washington Dixie would want.

all of that, understood no one wants the endless wars despite what Washington DC would want. So did that, becomes a senator, campaign heavily formed during that general. And then he was just like a breakout star in the Senate. He could articulate the issues, he wasn't afraid to get aggressive, that just was such a lacking thing in there. And so when the VP stuff started happening, it was like, this is a no-brainer. Because for me, I think most people who know me and have watched me for the last nine years, I'm actually a believer in this stuff. I actually care.

Right? I was a conservative since I was a kid, even if I grew up in New York City. So for me, it's not about, well, we just got to get four years of Trump at all costs. It was about, no, we need four years of Trump and a runway. And that's the other thing that the four years gave us this last four years. Yeah. We found people who would fight, you know, if we and I believe we won 2020. I don't I don't think anyone watching doesn't believe that, but we didn't assume office.

But what that four years also did was allowed us to find a crew of fighters, people who can do this. That's why this cabinet, had we just kept going from 2020 to 2024, like it would have been the same weak kind of cabinet, weaker cabinet, maybe there's a couple guys that were great, but not many. The can kickers, we're just going to wait it out, right? See what happens. We're going to slow roll it. We're not going to follow the will of the president. The unelected bureaucracy is going to make all those decisions. We'll tell him what he wants to hear, but not get anything done. So what the Democrats did, and I said it a couple of weeks ago, it was probably the stupidest

move ever playing those games in 2020 for them because A, it exposed just how weak they are. B, it exposed things like how bad the teachers unions are because we saw it with the lockdowns and the nonsense and everything. It forced people to wake up and we also finally, for the first time in history, we have a bench. Yeah, because everyone got battle experience. Yeah, everyone was battle-hardened.

You could see who was a fighter. Yeah, you're looking at everyone who's been victimized by the left and by the deep state, like whether it's Tulsi Gabbard, who's been victimized by the left and by the by the deep state, like whether it's Tulsi Gabbard, who's been tracked as a terrorist or RFK who's been censored by the big tech companies at the behest of the White House, you start going down the list and you realize, Whoa, each of these guys has been subjected to their own trials at the hands of the

American left and they're so they're in better position now they're ready to fight 100% and you sort of brought in that coalition. So I was sort of behind the RFK endorsement. I sort of made that happen through a good friend of mine that was best friends with his son. It was like another one of those, like you two would be best friends if you hung out. And so we did.

And it was like, you saw the Democrats were trying to turn Bobby into like the ultra conservative and that's the choice against Manga versus Manga to try to split that vote. And so like, I was like, hey, Bobby, you're not to win. We know that. But like you could cause significant damage here. I actually believe in so much of what he's saying out there. I think like you are a subject matter expert on the health stuff. I think it's so critical. I have five young kids. I see the garbage that's out there. I see what they try to cover up. Like, let's figure out how to work

together. And he was like, OK. And we sort of negotiated that one sort of back. It was me, my buddy, Bobby, his campaign manager, and Suzy Wiles. And that was it. We kept everyone else out of that. We did the same thing with Tulsi, actually. Because my friend, who they introduced us,

was also a kind of former Democrat that saw what happened during lockdowns and became like, you know, was totally, you know, red-pilled and has been on board. So we brought this sort of interesting coalition back together. But to get back to JD, that was complicated because the reality in politics and, you know, all of politics, but money controls so much. Yes. So every billionaire donor that's out there, that's know writing five, ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five million dollar checks and up sometimes They want their puppet in there. They want to be able to try to control the future they want to be able to do this so they and so for me

It was you know, basically the biggest voices in that room for JD would have been me Initially and all in, Tucker, Charlie Kirk, some of the just the grassroots guys that are on the ground that know what's going on. It was us versus the entire billionaire class who each had their own whatever it may be. There wasn't necessarily a consolidation around one particular guy. I got to a couple and it was just like, I get it. I know you need the money, but you also need to win. And you also need to create that bench because it's not just about you winning. It's about making sure, you know, and I don't want to even say the Republican party because I don't think it's, I don't think it's the Republican party anymore. It's an America first party

that this has a runway beyond the four years of Trump. You could be the sledgehammer for four years, but you need someone who can run with that afterwards. So what you're describing goes against the caricature of your father, which is that he's merely in it for himself and his own advancement. So if he's thinking the long game, he's actually thinking about the big picture. Oh, 100%. Listen, so if you're Trump and it's only about you, you'd find some average conservative guy that the billionaires would be able to get behind that would never outshine or never

outperform you. It's what Kamala Harris did with Tim Walsh, right? Well, we can't find someone who has political talent. Even if I disagree with their views, like there are people in the Democrat party that have political talent. She couldn't have someone as the number two that had political talent. She had to find someone that was worse than her to not outshine her. And that's got to be challenging even in the Democrat party to find someone worse. But like-

It's a sign of insecurity. Correct. So Trump gets this guy that's this rock star, who, and you saw it, you put him on the Sunday shows. It just destroys all these people. You put them on, you know, in the debate. And at the end of the debate, Tim Walz is sitting there, like, I agree with everything JD said. I'm like, I think he's voting for Trump.

Like, I was like, I think he's voting for Trump by the end of that thing. It's true. You know, and so J.D. was so funny yesterday. He says I was never physically intimidated by Tim Walz. I asked him, I was like, because Tim Walz is out there saying that he's like, I can kick everybody's ass. But that was the whole joke of like the whole campaign. They tried to Tim Walz is the left's idea of masculine.

Yeah. It's like, but, cause they don't know what masculine actually is. So they're like, well, this guy one time held a shotgun. So he's mad. And like, you could watch, I'm sitting there like, as someone who does a lot of this stuff,

I'm like watching him trying to load, I know. You know, a Beretta A400. I'm like, listen, you give me any shotgun in the world and a blindfold and three sales, and I'll load it in about four seconds. It doesn't matter. If it's a pump, if it's an autoloader, like a break action. Like I will know just by feel and when they're like this guy's a serious hunter and he's sitting there struggling trying to load.

Like, you know, his gun is really and he's like, you know, the whole quote was like Maga's intimidated by masculinity. I'm like, have you ever watched this guy get on a stage? I'm like, it's like the opening scene of the Nutcracker. You know what I mean? Like, it's like I was like, I don't know. I've never seen a wrist so limp. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm like, that was the left's idea of masculine.

And so they're trying to push this on people who are actually masculine or at least not totally effeminate. And like people like, you know, I'm not buying it. And he's still running with it. You saw it this week. It's like, I could beat the hell out of every Baja Republican. I'm like just stop Yeah, by the way, you know the number one sign of not being all that masculine is like talking about how masculine you actually are right, it's like funny and so We're jumping around a little bit, but it was you know, but you can see me even even Fox News

They were trying to crush JD like every month like they were forcing a narrative, like trying to crush this guy because we want our puppet in there. All these guys were going against it. And I think the one thing my father figured out with me, like, I'm just the guy on the ground. I'm the guy that doesn't just show up for the selfie to be in the back of his speech. I don't go to his speeches. Right. I go to the speeches where he can't be right because that's actually a creative Yeah, right. Like if there's one Trump in the room, it's plenty. Yeah, right. We don't need to trumps in a room

I don't add much value some of the stuff you do for history because it's cool But like too many people in that world just I just want to be where he is because I can be in the selfie and I Can use it to promote whatever yes, like no No, I'm gonna go to like the middle of Iowa and speak to you know, 300 people in a room that you know the nominee can't go do to add value. So I just had a feeling of what's going on on the ground. I have a feeling where people are. So he's sort of trusting me with that one.

And I knew it was always, even the Sunday shows, he started crushing, like I said, he's putting Martha Raddatz on the plane. Martha, do you hear yourself speaking? Yes. Trento Larragola only took over a couple of buildings in Colorado. I mean, it's you know, it's wild how How deranged they are and he could he could do it but like I get high-strung I get aggressive Like he'll tell these people and you slap them around like a little child

But he just calm and collected and cool and like everyone saw it and I knew I was finally Vindicated because there were a lot of people in the press all those but hurt billionaires You know, they were mfing me behind my back And yes, you know and some of them even came out to me afterwards like I hated you more than any person in politics For about a month and a half after the convention, but you were actually right I was like you should not have told me that because I don't forget these things But it's fine. I noticed a lot of people saying that. I was like, you should not have told me that because I don't forget these things. But it's fine. I've noticed a lot of people saying that.

Like, I was completely wrong about JD Vance. I had no idea. That's like the number one thing I hear right now. And so I knew I was good because half the time, you know, hey, playing to the whole crowd, but like sometimes it's an audience of one. And that audience of one is a very powerful man. And it was after the debate, the vice presidential debate, I go to the spin room and I did like two hours of straight media, just like from American to like BBC, you know, like just.

And my phone keeps ringing in my pocket. And I'm like, OK, just mute, mute, mute. Because I figured, oh, it's just a bunch of people. I great. You know, JD did great. I was like it was actually no people. It was 15 like missed calls from my dad at two in the morning. And I'm like, I'm gonna call him back. And I do, he picks up on the first ring

at two o'clock in the morning. He's kind of a machine. You know, Don, Don, I did that one for you, Don, but that was a 10. There's not a lot of 10s, that was a 10. And so it was finally like, okay, I don't care if I'm vindicated in the minds of the billionaire class, it means nothing to me. Like I fight for, if I didn't, if I cared about that I would have stayed as a real estate developer in New York. Like I

actually, you know, sort of, I'm basically a redneck on the weekends when I'm not, you know, in a suit or whatever doing those things. That's what I like to do. Those are the people I hang out with. And so, that was a, but the ultimate vindication was him finally being like, hey man, this is a risk. It's a little bit of an unknown entity. He was a Senator for two years. Yes.

And while he clearly overperformed in everything, that was the ultimate, because I didn't care what anyone else thought. It was like, he got it. That's very gratifying. And he understands talent better than anyone. Yeah, that's so gratifying as a son and your father's like, you know what? You did really good.

This is really good. And thinking about that, actually, I'm reminded of like, kind of one of the stories of the campaign was the influence that your family had over your dad. The one that kept popping up is that your brother Baron like had advised him to do all of these podcasts to basically go outside of the traditional media, get out of there, go to places where massive numbers of especially young people are watching and speak directly to them

in these really long form interviews. That was a huge success. Yeah, you know, I'm not sure how involved Baron was with that. I think he definitely spoke to my dad about it. I was doing the same thing, right? Oh, were you? Well, it's sort of the same thing, right? Oh, were you? Well, it's sort of my world also, right? Yeah, yeah.

I know most of those guys are, you know, and I was like, hey, you gotta do this. And the thing about the long form stuff is, if you're Kamala Harris, maybe you could, maybe she couldn't even get, you know, here's the four soundbites. I get in a five minute interview on MSDNC, right? Usually you can crank those, like, I don't know.

The long form, eventually, you gotta let your guard down. Eventually, you gotta actually have something to say and so I was like I know he does like the roguing thing was incredible you know and I was talking with Dana about making that happen for a while Dana White just we got to get him on there because he'll do so well because people like well Trump doesn't know anything like when they started talking about like the history of the Civil War people were like, wait a minute, Trump actually has some serious depth in these things. He likes about McKinley's presidency and he's really into it.

Some fairly random stuff, but historically important and critical to where we are today. But you're like, wait a minute, Trump does have depth. He may not show it all the time. Sometimes you got to get the sound bite out. Sometimes you can't get to all of the detail, but I think it was so important he could do one after the other and he'd made the effort to go out there and there were no terms or conditions put in there.

And everyone saw that. And I don't know, again, I don't know if it was a mistake or the smartest thing in the world for Kamala Harris to not have done those things. Probably better that she did. Because like, yeah, is it worse that she didn't do it or is it worse that she would have done it and failed miserably in life? She would have failed. And that's because the left doesn't really subject itself to that kind of

battle. They try to avoid it at all costs. They censor people in order to prevent debate. Yeah, they've never had to have that battle because they had the media that would do it for them. They had big tech that would do that for them. I mean, anything that was sort of outside of the rules would just be censored and shut down. It didn't matter, right? The Hunter Biden laptop was always real. Everyone knew about it. The New York Post reported on it in 2012. I wrote a book about some of these things in 2020. It just never got out into the ether. It was not allowed because it was contrary to where they wanted it to go. So they've never actually had to fight an intellectual battle. And when they do these days, they've gotten so accustomed to either having that support

or just going right to like, it's racist, it's misogynist, it's like the easy button of today's left. Like anything doesn't go with the talking points is racist. That just doesn't work anymore because people are, they're sort of over it. Yeah, no, they definitely are. I want to talk to you about somebody else in the family, your daughter, Kai. Yes. So Kai Trump gets introduced to the whole planet when she goes and speaks

to the Republican National Convention last year. That, of course, happened right after your father was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. Tell me kind of what's that of what is that like inside the family to make this decision that your now 17-year-old daughter is going to stand on a national stage and introduce her grandfather? Honestly, it wasn't a family decision. It was 100% her.

Right after that, everyone's like, that was a brilliant move by Don Jr. to try to humanize his father with his daughter like You know, I was like I would never like I'd never subject like my child to that You know push it on them for like political gain. Like I know how wrong that can go if it goes bad. Sure. Yes Uh, but like she was so how it all started was I got the rare call as a dad of a 17 year old to be like hey dad I want to hang out and go fishing today. Like that doesn't happen very often, right? It's like 17 year old, it's like if I get a call

or even a response on a text message, once every other, once every 10 texts, I'm lucky. And so- Did that happen before the assassination? Oh yeah, that was before it was. So we were, she was like, early that morning I was like, okay, I'm dropping everything,

because this is a once in a year type call. Yes. I'm dropping everything, I'm taking her fishing. You know, we went offshore. We live right on the water in Florida. So we, you know, went offshore. We're having a great day and I get the call like your dad's been shot. I'm like. And you know, like there's no degrees of good.

You know, some calls are good or bad. Like there's no degrees of good in this. It's just how bad? Well, we don't know. And I'm telling her like, we got to go. She's like, what do you mean we're having to? I was like, we got to go. And I told her. And I guess the one thing that perhaps wasn't a total failure that day was they were smart enough to shut down, you know, communication. So we didn't know for 90 minutes. So did you in this in this 90 minute window, did you see the videos that we were all saying? Well, I was running a boat, you know, about 50 miles an hour. Yes. You know, I set the, you know, probably the record through Jupiter Inlet and back to my house and

think I may have blown through some no-wake zones. I think cops would have understood that if I got pulled over, so I was willing to take the chance, you know, get back to the house. And then I started seeing those videos. But again, you don't know, like, you know, I'm a hunter, right? Yes. I've shot a deer that's dead. It just doesn't know it yet. It can run for a couple hundred yards. And then, you know, so you don't know you come back to find, but you're bleeding out slowly or whatever it may be. So I didn't know. It took about 90 minutes by that time.

You know, most of my family is at my house and my kids, my ex, the kids, everyone's there, my brother's on the phone, we're on speakerphone trying to get through, Ivanka's on the other line and we're like, what is going on? We don't know. Finally, a call comes in from my dad's people, whatever it is, and we're like, and his voice was the first voice we heard. I was like, oh God, okay, thank you.

Fine. That's like the initial adrenaline dump. OK, thank you. Yes. Fine. That's like the initial adrenaline dump, but you're still pretty wired up. What did he say? Well, I'm usually the guy that I'm the icebreaker, because I'll say the stuff that most people will. And I was like, I just said first, but the first thing I said once I knew he was OK,

I was like, by the way, that was the most badass thing I've ever seen. Because everyone thinks they're a tough guy, especially these days on the internet, right? Behind a keyboard in mommy's basement, everyone's a tough guy. It's shot in the face and you come back ready to fight. That's cool. That's badass. That's the actual test.

Most people that get tested, 90% of them are going to fail in that situation. Very few are going to rise to the occasion, understand what was happening. Ironically, at the RNC that following week, two guys came up to me like, hey man, I was in the stands at Butler and people were going to die because there was going to be a stampede because no one knew what was going on. And he goes, when your dad stood up, everyone was like, they calmed down. And they then left quietly and peacefully, but like they were like, they felt that shaking it like two separate people told me that I was like, I never thought about that.

He was like, oh, he saved lives that day by doing what he did instead of just staying undercover and rushing away where people would have been panicked. But so we finally do this. I told him that was the most badass thing ever. There's some conversation, but it's still like a really heavy moment. So I was like, I gotta break the ice on this one and just be like, listen, with all of this, I gotta ask, most importantly, how is the hair? Yes, Don, the hair, hair's fine, it's a little bloody Don, and the hair's fine.

And everyone sort of had a laugh and it was maybe that release we all needed to have that done. But it was, that night was sort of interesting because the adrenaline is going, and when that adrenaline dump hit, it was like, it crushes you. So I woke up the next morning to Kai calling me, and she's like, and that was the week of the RNC. She goes, I'm speaking at the RNC. I'm like, oh, really? I was not aware of that. I've been working on this for a while.

I guess I'll go bump some senator or governor. Are you serious? You've never given a speech in your life. Your first speech is going to be in front of 40 40,000, whatever it is, live audience, and tens of millions on TV. She's like, I don't care. And it's not because she's political, but like she has spent more time with my dad

than probably I have, right? She's his golfing buddy. She's great at it. They play every weekend. She's like, I will catch her, you know, we'll be hanging out on a weekend or whatever it is. And she'll be talking to someone about little pop culture things.

I'm like, hey, guy, we got to go do something. Like, you got to quit talking to your friends. And she's like, I'm not talking to my friends. I'm like, well, you're talking about whatever it may be. Taylor Swift or whoever. Probably not Taylor Swift, but something like that. And she's like, I'm talking to Grandpa. I'm like, wait, really?

Grandpa's having this kind of pop culture team. I'm like, wait, really? Like grandpa's having like this kind of pop culture, teen kind of, like I thought it was like another high school kid or whatever it is, and it's grandpa for 30 minutes. It's sort of funny. So they have this great relationship. So, you know, that's how it started. And she was very adamant about it. Because again, I would never put her in that fire. So I called my dad and I'm like, hey, listen, Kai just called me.

She wants to speak at the RNC. And he just goes, whoa. Because he understands what happens if like, hey, listen, Kai just called me. She wants to speak at the RNC and he just goes, whoa. Because he understands what happens if it fails, right? They'll destroy her. We don't get the Hunter Biden treatment. Leave the 50-year-old son alone. He's just a child. He's a child.

Leave him alone. We don't get that treatment. We don't get the benefit of the doubt. And he just goes, that's a big one. OK, you know what? That kid's a winner, let her do it. Like she'll be fine. Let's pick up on this.

I want to pick up on the other side of this and more on your daughter, Kai, speaking at the Republican National Convention. Donald Trump Jr. in the house. This is awesome. It's going on guys. All right, you know, you've seen it before when disaster strikes.

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intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. The chat is going absolutely wild. Everybody's excited about Donald Trump Jr. being here in the house today. Glad to do it. Thank you guys. Thank you for that. And they were they they love your description of Tim Walls performing in the Nutcracker with jazz hands. Yeah, so spirit fingers. I'm just like, like, again, yeah, it was always amazing to me. So I loved watching it happen because obviously, on my Rumble show or whatever, I'd highlight these things, but people were like, yeah, we know, it's ridiculous.

And I was like, it wasn't even one of those things that you have to point out to people. Like, oh, now that you've said it, now I see what you're saying. It's all you can say. You didn't need to say anything. Please, just give him the mic, let him come out, jazz up the music, and he's gonna do it to himself.

It was great. So good. All right, so the microphone of course goes to your daughter, Kai. So you just described how you called your dad and said, hey, Kai would like to speak. He considered it for a moment and said, great, she's a star, it's gonna be great. So she does.

How many audiences has she addressed prior to that? It was literally her first speech. I think as a kid, she did one or two little rallies, meaning like the first, like in 2015, 2016. When she was what, like eight or nine years old? She was like, give me the mic, and literally out of like the back of a pickup truck at like a tailgate party. I think she spoke at like the Florida game one time, I guess Florida, Georgia. And she said Merry Christmas at some rally in Grand Rapids, I think it was,

or Cedar Falls when we were doing, you know, in that. And otherwise, she was just kidding with me. Merry Christmas! I was like, you did great! That's not, for some people, that's still hard to do, right in front of a crowd of thousands of people. But so, you know, she does this thing and she's very confident going in. And then we get to the actual event. When you do a know, she does this thing and, you know, she's very confident,

you know, going in and then we get to the actual event when you do a warm up. When it's empty, it's easier, right? When you walk and she was like, she's actually like, oh boy, I was like, just relax, talk a thousand times slower than you think you need to do and you're going to be you're going to do great. And we went out there and, you know, I guess, you know, over the Trump jeans, I got, you, I got luckily the total lack of stage fright. I want the mic, I don't want to give it back. I want a larger crowd, not a smaller crowd. It's frankly easier for me.

But that was the most nervous I've ever been on a stage. And I wasn't even the guy at the mic. I'm just standing five feet behind her. Again, I know what happens if there's even a if there's a hiccup? Yeah, you know you saw it the next day I knew it hit home the next day when the lovely ladies of the view are like that was terrible Exploitation of a minor station be ashamed of themselves. I'm like you guys exploit like what this daughter's she's pushing the patriarchy Whatever the soundbites

Exploiting an entire table of mentally ill people. But it's very fair. Yeah, so like I would never do that. Like I would never do that to my kids. Like I care too much about my kids, unlike like the left, who's more than happy to let their kids mutilate themselves. Yeah, that's not for me. But, you know, that was sort of nervous.

It was interesting because I had to speak afterwards. And it was like such a proud moment for me. But that was sort of nervous. It was interesting because I had to speak afterwards. And it was such a proud moment for me. I had a hard time focusing on getting back to what I needed to do and then deliver more of a Don speech. Our speech wasn't even political. It was just like, but it drove these people nuts that maybe there's a chance that Donald Trump is actually human. I mean, it doesn't matter that there's countless stories

of people that he's helped throughout his life. They're just never gonna get air coverage. So I know that you and of course your father are very accustomed to negative press. So it probably rolls off you for the most part. Probably don't care that much. But it's gotta be different to see press like scrutiny of your kid.

So your daughter is not even 18 yet. She's 17 right now. And already, like in the last day, I know she's a great golfer and everyone's keeping track of her latest golf tournament and writing all these negative headlines about her Oh, she's not first of all, she's way better than everybody writing stories about her. Yeah, and and second It's got to be tough as a dad to see Intense sort of negative scrutiny placed on your kid. Yeah, and some of us, you know, what's interesting now is I mean, you know a year ago the number one comment comment I get from people is like, I love your Instagram feed, because you just don't care.

And it's all memes and like, occasional family stuff or whatever it may be. Now it's like, you know, like liberals come up to me and like, you know, my daughter really loves Kai. And I'm just like, wow, didn't see that come. And it's sort of interesting. She's done an incredible job breaking out. The negative stuff is... My superpower in politics or business is like, I legitimately don't care what other people say. It allows me to do what I do. It's why I don't ever pull back. It's why I'm uncomfortable being aggressive.

Because if you don't like it, I don't give a shit. It doesn't matter to me. I'm going to do it anyway. And like it's harder when it's when it's your kid. But you know generally speaking I think you know it's been pretty good. Again I don't get the trade. She had actually a pretty good pace today in the Washington Post. I haven't even had a chance to read it but like friends who have they're like wow. I saw it. That's the permission slip for them to attack me harder because they're like look we're being fair.

We were nice to a 17 year old girl so we can destroy Don next week. I read it this morning and it is it's very glowing and it talks about how she's like kind of the she's like the humanizing force for the Trump White House. It's in a way it's kind of a backhanded compliment to her. It's like everyone else is like completely unhuman, but she's very human. But this is what we call in journalism a beat sweetener. It's like you write a really nice piece just to like, oh, like maybe we'll get the Trump family to like us again. And then boom, they try and hit you.

At this point with the Weising nevose, I imagine that's a lost cause for me. If they're decent to a 17-year-old, I'm all for it. Hopefully that's the start. Yeah, my understanding, and I haven't even had a chance to read it yet, but it sort of talked more on a political thing. And that's her, like she's trying to not get anything. It you know, it sort of talked her more on a political thing. And that's her like she's trying to not get anything. Did you think it's not political at all? I think that's what makes it.

It doesn't have to be. She's like, it's not my world. I don't want to do that. So, you know, they're trying to make it more like, well, this is a political force. It's like she has nothing. I think she's talking to young kids and like, I think, you know, a kid that's, you know, just, you know, clean cut and works hard and a straight A student and is a good athlete, maybe that's a better role model

in some of the stuff that's being pushed on us. You're not good unless you have nose rings and rainbow colored pre-care and like, mutilate your body. And you're confused and you hate your country and your parents, that's the ideal child. It was sort of like, oh wow, it's refreshing. Maybe you can have a normal role model for a change. So so one of the cool things that they did focus on in that

piece, that Washington Post piece is just what she's doing with social media, and bringing people inside of this world that nobody else has access to, not even like, you know, those top Trump Trump donors or anybody else. This is the granddaughter of the president. So she goes to a bunch of cool events, and she captures them. And in the process, she gets to meet a lot of cool people, including Elon Musk. And Kai, I think in the last 24 hours has posted a video.

Can we play this? This is a video from Kai Trump, Donald Trump Jr.'s daughter. Apparently she has just received a Tesla from, from Elon Musk. Watch this. Oh boy. Oh, shoot.

Yep, that was fast. I don't know if that was. That was, that was fast. I don't know. That was so Elon got this one for me because they didn't make it at the time. Oh, my grandpa got me one. He got me like the soup version. So it's zero 62.6 seconds, which is insane. Well, just 2.6 seconds. 2.6.

Oh, yeah. And you'd be using it for sure. So like my dad is I think his car is like 3.2 seconds or whatever. Oh, yeah. Well, I drive a big truck, but it's a faster. I drive a TRX. I love it. It's a great car. And I was like, OK, I got to see, you know, what it'll do relative to the Cybertruck.

Yeah, the Cybertruck is like super ridiculous. Like I've never like off the line. It's faster than most sports cars. Yeah. You know, they're they're both, you know, seven thousand pound trucks. So they're both super fast. Mine's 700 horsepower. Yes. How do you feel about your daughter having a faster car

than you right now? Well, listen, I think we've got to break that down even further. How do I feel about my 17-year-old driving, period? I'm still a dad. I'm just like, I don't like this. You don't need a super. But it's a big, heavy car, so I like that. So it's good. I think that that one came about.

I think it was funny. Akai was playing with my dad, you know, and Elon called about something. And he was just like, you know, Elon, you know, my granddaughter needs a new car. What do you recommend? And like he's like this. My dad got her a cyber truck is like, he just here take that. It was it was pretty pretty funny.

She calls me. I'm like, like my dad never did that to me. Like if I wanted a truck, it was like, you know, truck is like, here, take that. It was pretty funny. She calls me, I'm like, my dad never did that to me. If I wanted a truck, I was like, I'll lease you something crappy, and if you wanna upgrade it, you're gonna have to work for it. I'm like, wait, you're just giving her cyber trucks? I mean, her truck is nicer than me. I'm like, 47. Yes, are you concerned that your dad

likes her better than you? Oh, man, how about it? It's not even a concern, because there's no reason to be concerned about something that's very obvious. It's, you know, I think I always joke, I like, hi, and it's because of golf. You know, like I don't even play golf. So I'm like the black sheep in the Trump family. I barely play golf. I was good, but I never loved it.

So I just sort of I have my other hobbies that keeps me busy. So I'm the black sheep. I'm out of the wheel by not playing golf. She is. She's probably the recipient in my stead. So so you said I was I wanted to ask about this. How did you get into hunting? Is your dad a hunter at all? No. Has he ever gone with you?

No. No, he can't teach an old dog new tricks. No, my dad loves golf. That's what he's passionate about. I was pretty good. He always gets mad at me because he was like, I'll pick up a club after not picking up a club for two years and always had a really good swing.

He's like, you'd be a plus two if you played. And I'm like, but when I'm out there, I'm like, I look at the water. I'm like, man, I wonder if there's fish in there. I could go fishing or like, you know, you wander. Oh, yeah, it's just it was never a passion of mine. So it's like, you know, I used to probably do it a lot to play with him. And then I remember with my ex one night, I came home and I was like, man, I didn't do anything all weekend.

I got a busy week. She's like, you play golf three times. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh, I didn't do anything all weekend. I got a busy week. She's like, you play golf like three times. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh, like I thought of it more as work instead of fun. And so like I'm happy to like most of my kids play. Like, I love it for them. Yeah. It was just never for me.

And you got to kind of do what you want. I got into it, sort of got into the outdoors. My grandfather was a blue collar electrician from communist Czechoslovakia. I spoke the language fluently. I started going over there very young. My mom, I think, and him, maybe my dad a blue collar, you know, electrician from communist Czech Slovakia. I spoke the language fluently. I started going over there very young. My mom, I think, and him, maybe my dad a little bit were like, OK, like you're living on like the 70th floor of Trump Tower.

Like you have to experience the other side of life. So I spent, you know, a month plus every summer in what was then communist Czech Slovakia in the early 80s. Yeah. I had friends, spoke the language, you know, got me into the outdoors. There's the woods. I'll see you at dark. And so it was like America, if you step back in time, like 70 years. So I got some of that experience as a child,

fell in love with it. I went to boarding school in eighth grade. I just wanted to get out of New York City. It was my parents going through a rough divorce and all that. I was like, you know what, I just wanna be here. Went to boarding school in central Pennsylvania. And a couple guys there saw that I

love the outdoor stuff took me under their wing got me, you know, shooting gun. I mean, I shot air guns and stuff like that earlier. And but like fly fishing and airguns. Yes. And I just fell in love. And the second I could drive is so busy. And the environments you're describing are meditative. Like yeah, that's my escape. They're like, what do you like I can't I have totally add about everything. But like, you know, I can go in the mountains without a phone for 10 days.

Come back out. And it's like, you know, now within about four hours of catching up on emails, I'm usually back to the stress level I was before. But that that's sort of my release. And so I just I just love being out there. That's whether it's fishing, hunting, just shooting. But your dad never had an interest. He was never into that. I've seen him shoot like once or twice, but that's about it. Now it is you're not going to change him.

You don't mean it's my dad's the guy that like and it's why, you're not going to change him. You know what I mean? My dad's the guy that like, and it's why he's probably successful at so many things. Like, he's the guy that can't even understand why, like, you may not like the same music that he does. He's like, no, but this is the best music. He's so con- He's very proud of his playlist.

Yeah. DJ Trump is a thing. That's Mar-a-Lago. He'll sit there and do it all night. And I'm like, OK, I got to go because it's playing so loud. I can't hear. I'm not. I mean, you hate music. I'm like, I don't hate music. It is like if I can't have a conversation because you're like, we're playing so loud, I don't feel the need to sit here that long.

I think back to it was the 2016 election and we were on the road. It was the New Hampshire primary. And if you recall that night, it was very snowy. The debate. I remember that the debate occurred. Marco Ruby. The debate. I remember that one. The debate occurred. Marco Rubio was having a lot of trouble on stage. We don't talk about that now because Rubio is wonderful. But Rubio was having trouble on stage.

And so that night we went to the only steakhouse. It was me and a couple of Daily Caller reporters and Tucker Carlson. We all went to the only steakhouse that was open that night. And we're sitting there enjoying our meal and the Secret Service comes walking in a few minutes later it's a almost empty restaurant and sure enough right after they come in and scan the restaurant your entire family walks in and everybody walks in to have dinner and and

President Trump stops by the table not yet president and My buddy Alex Pappas says to him asks a reporter. He goes I can ask you about your playlist He's you've got like, you know, I can ask you about your playlist. He goes, you've got like the Rolling Stones, you've got like Elton John. Go right to Pavarotti. You've got like all these like basically foreign performers. Like what about like a lot more American performers?

He asked, and your dad just stopped him. He said, no, no, no, no, no, no. My playlist is amazing. Don't you love it? And he just didn't even care what the question was. He was like, I'm telling you, I have a great playlist. It's the best, which was a hoot. I just loved it.

And I remember that. That was a, that was an interesting one. Yeah, that was a crazy time. I mean, the 16 elections sort of, for me, is sort of the most nostalgic. Like it was the most fun. Wasn't it? Because there was no expectation of us actually winning,

right? It was like I'm gonna fight as hard as I possibly can. Like you know it was like no matter what like you watch CNN you know it's like you have no chance, you have zero percent chances. Like if we got one percent of if we outperform by one percent that's a win based on what we were saying. So public everybody, everybody acts confident. But I will say, I talked to people, like really good Trump people, that morning of election day. And they were like, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I was like, we're going to overperform. Like, we're going to do so much better than anyone thought.

But like, come on, how do you beat that? Yeah. You know, when they started with Russia collusion, I'm like, collusion? Like, we couldn't collude to order a cheeseburger. Like, we didn't know anything what was going on. Like, no one knew what they were doing. It was like we had a good message. My father ironically is a billionaire from New York Knows real people because he spent all his time in construction sites. Perhaps it's why Eric and I We grew up in construction sites, too. It's probably why I talk the way I do but like we were

We weren't sheltered from real people Yeah like so many people in Washington, DC are. Even people that are in Congress that are supposed to live amongst their constituents, they have no idea about these people. So like I understood and appreciated the irony that you know this brash billionaire from New York was the guy that could actually resonate with blue-collar workers, because he'd actually spent time with them a lot.

But like you didn't think you were gonna win, you didn't have the staffing, you didn't have it. So it was like, I don't know, like, give me a mic somewhere and I'll I'll be fine. Like so it was it was fun. It was cool. It was easy from that perspective. Once you have an infrastructure and then you're expected this, it's like, wow, this kind of sucks. You know, one of my favorite memories from election night 2016, I was there at the Midtown Hilton where you held the victory party.

And it was early in the morning. We get that announcement that he won the presidency. And then he comes out and the way that that room is structured, there was a, there was a big, almost like a catwalk that you'd walk across. Then you walk down some stairs and then you come onto the main stage. And on that catwalk was the entire Trump family, everybody that you know from the presidential campaign. President Trump was in the front.

And I guess, I think this was his choice. He was playing the theme music from Air Force One. Which is like, it's like, it's a very kind of like emotional, like American theme that people just think of. It was so resonant. And all of you walked down on that stage together. And I just remember being in utter shock at what I was feeling in a good way.

Just like me too. I turned to a buddy and I go, America just elected Donald Trump, President of the United States. And he gave a thank you speech. He thanked every single person on that stage, except for Mike Pence. Because I guess turns out like, like Trump was all Trump's always right about everything. It just sometimes takes a while to figure it out. Isn't that funny? Yeah, like all is right. He didn't thank on stage. Like literally the only person he didn't thank was his running mate.

Every single person he thanked. He literally was like, I think he was like thanking the janitors. He was thanking everybody. But Mike Pence for some reason. Do you remember that night? I do. I do.

So I remember right before that, like I was like videoing the Hillary call, which was pretty awesome. I don't even know if I've ever posted that. I probably should. Oh, you should. Shelf life is good now. The concession call.

It's just because I was like, this is really happening. Again, I felt we'd overperformed without question. I was the guy on the ground more than probably anyone in terms of getting into real America. That's sort of what I did. I wasn't the guy that was going to manage data. Because I was like, I'm pretty good with a mic. I figured that out.

Send me. Running a campaign wouldn't have been my strong suit. And I was much more involved in that apparatus this time because I'd figured it out after three terms. Now I actually have some credibility to stand back on. I get how this works. That time I didn't know anything. And so that was an amazing night.

I mean, I don't think I ever went to sleep because it was just like, I tried at like six in the morning to go to bed for now. And I was like, like, what do we do now? Sometimes the dog catches the car, right? It was like, yeah. And, you know, the difference and, you know, the same thing happened this time around. It was like four o'clock in the morning.

It was like, you know, when we won in November and it was like, this was different. I was like, yeah, I got like two hours of sleep. I'm like, okay, now we're going to staff him with people. We're not just going to listen to Chris Christie or some other guy pushing their buddies that suck or, you know, are barely conservative or Ryan O'Neill cons or they have an R next to their name and maybe some credit, but they'll sell you down the river in two seconds to make sure that they can position themselves better for some lobbying contract or whatever it may be.

This time it was like, okay, we're going to get to work and we're going to give him the best cabinet we can possibly give him. So let me end where we started, basically, where I was asking you about JD Vance. I saw something recently that some reporter asked you if you are planning on running for president of the United States. And you basically said, you told this reporter they were an idiot. I actually told them they were retarded. They're like, are you going to use that as your quote? I'm like, yes, that is my official, you are retarded more. That was my official response. You can quote me. Well, cause they, they try it. I see what they do in politics. Right? That's why we did sort of the Bobby

Kennedy thing. Like we did it quiet because if everyone found out and it started leaking, then they'll find a way to make sure it doesn't happen. They'll find a way to break it up if you give them the time to do that. You see them doing that now. Don Jr. is running for president. There's polls that had me tied with JD. Why would I?

Assuming I'm not also retarded. And what's nice is we're bringing back the word retarded. Gay and retarded are back in the vernacular. I'm just saying it's fine. It was probably every other word out of all of our high school lives. Yeah. You know, then it became a totally cancelable offense. Now, like, people are, you know, over the cancel nonsense. It actually has nothing to do with being gay or retarded, like, as we know.

Never did, but that doesn't stop them. But, you know, they're trying to create these schisms. But I just replied back, and it's like the last quote at the bottom of the story. So they're like, oh, Dodd Jr's running. We can create a problem. My quote is the most aggressive shut down quote ever. And my thesis in the rest of the quote was basically like,

listen, assuming I'm not an idiot, and I had the vision to help curate a guy that's a great talent and push, use all of my political capital for maybe the next 50 years to make that happen. Like why would I nurture that kind of talent instead of letting some, you know, puppet of the billionaire class go in there that if I really wanted to run, I'd probably destroy in a primary in 2028. Like why would I create like a much harder competition? Wouldn't I be knifing?

Yes. Like, if I played the game like everyone else in D.C., wouldn't I be knifing our best talent to clear an easier path for me if I actually wanted to do that? So, yeah, maybe one day you never know. I'm never going to rule anything out. But like, you know, I want to make sure we have a long bench of great talent. Yeah. It's not just about Trump.

I think he's the catalyst we need. I think he's he's perhaps one of the only guys that can do what we need to do right now. Maybe the only guy, probably the only guy that can do what we need to do right now. Just take on everything and just not care. You know, I don't want to say burn it down because then they'll say I'm encouraging violence, even though they're burning down Tesla. Of course. But like, he's the guy that can do that but you need that bench of guys that can follow through and keep it going and not

just revert back to the insanity of the past and so I think there's I think JD's done an incredible job but like I said they this four years we've actually started curating some real talent and whether that's for 28 or for 32 or for you know 36 we have we actually have a bench of warriors now whether that's for 28 or for 32 or for 36, we have we actually have a bench of warriors now and that's absolutely awesome. Okay, all right, I know we're up against it and Rummel's got a great lineup so we're sending it each guy including the Steven Crowder coming up next but before we get there, hey fellas can you zoom in on this real fast for me? This is the Donald Trump signed Flesh and Blood card, Flesh and Blood is the name of the card game. This is the first I don't even know what that is.

Me neither. Guy is our executive producer and he got President Trump to sign this making this one of the most valuable cards he owns. He loves this game. He asked me because he's not here today to get you to sign this one deal. Would you mind? Not at all. All right.

Here we go. This is big. I'm going to move the mic a little bit. Here we go. Check the names of the two cards. Check the names, okay. There we go. We got a Donald Trump Jr. signature. The Donald Trump card is called

Gold, apparently. And this one, the Golden Sun. Oh wow, I like that. I like that too. I'll take it. Hey, Donald Trump Jr. Thank you very much. Good to talk to you. Stephen Crowder is up next, right here on Rumble.