The Dan Bongino Show - Ep 472 Liberals Love Useful Idiots
Episode Date: June 1, 2017In this episode I address the growing number of assaults on free speech on college campuses and the real reasons behind this. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-campus-mob-came-for-meand-you-professor-c...ould-be-next-1496187482  I also address a critical problem with the Left's Trump-Russia conspiracy theory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm doing well.
What's shaking, Dan-o?
You know, I didn't ask you before, but what's shaking?
I'm glad you said that.
I was going to say, ask me how I'm doing.
How are you doing, Dan?
I'm not doing too well.
I'm a little upset.
You know, guys.
I'm glad I asked.
I really, really deeply appreciate my audience.
But gosh, give me a break.
People on Facebook yesterday they had one
guy was complaining about the how i do the pros and cons of an issue you know they're in my boy
i love this guy jim he's a great guy comments all the time but he literally in the facebook
comments writes when i was talking about yesterday the paris accords which i don't agree with he's
gonna pull out of him trump apparently which is great. The Paris climate deal I think is a terrible deal but I
only think it's responsible in my show
to give you what
people will tell you are the pros
and what I think are the cons
so you can make a reasonable argument.
Jimmy writes a Facebook post. He's like
there are no pros to this.
Not at all. What are you talking about?
And in the same post as he's typing
he goes oh sorry listening to the show I see you don't agree with it and there are about? And then in the same post, as he's typing, he goes, oh, sorry, listening to the show.
I see you don't agree with it.
And there are cons.
Thanks.
In the same post.
Guys.
And another guy didn't like how I explained the fair tax.
He goes, although it was accurate, listen, that's all I'm here for.
That's all I'm here for is to be accurate.
I explained the fair tax the way it works.
It's a consumption tax.
It's what it is.
I'm sorry.
Okay. Sorry.
Now, I love my audience. Guys, I'm not responsible to scream and yell about stuff
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Trump campaign team. I don't know the man, but apparently he was trying to get a job. He never got a job. He was never a paid advisor. He was a tangential figure at best to the Trump campaign.
Carter Page has some business dealings with Russia. So the bottom line is in order to foster
the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, the Democrats wanted Carter Page to testify in front of a
committee. Well, Joe, did you see this? Abruptly, it was a Tuesday night or so, all of a sudden,
the Democrats on the committee no longer want Carter Page to testify.
Now, it was mildly at best covered.
But folks, you should start asking yourself.
Now, Trump, by the way, on Wednesday morning tweeted about this saying, wait, wait, all
of a sudden you don't want Carter Page to testify anymore.
Is that because your entire case has fallen apart?
I mean, that's the gist of what he put in his tweets. You should start asking yourself some very serious
questions right now if you're a far left Trump-Russia conspiracy theorist. If this conspiracy
is in fact happening and there was collusion between the Trump-Russia campaign, why does
Trump keep bringing it up? I'm asking you to think, liberals, for two seconds. I know this
is hard for you. Dro pen there sorry i'm asking
you to think i'm trying to be a bit of a happy warrior with this please think do something yes
please try to think if trump is in such danger of of being exposed as a Russian colluder. Why does he keep bringing it up?
Why does he keep tweeting about it?
Now, I am not suggesting at all
this is a bright political strategy.
I don't think it is.
I think right now it's time to move on
to taxes and Obamacare,
fixing the tax structure
and get rid of Obamacare.
I'm not suggesting that this is a good political strategy.
I'm telling you strictly as a federal investigator,
having interviewed hundreds of guilty people over the years,
when guilty people are caught and you have them in the interrogation interview room,
I promise you, folks, they will do anything to avoid talking about the crime.
Why would he tweet about Carter Page if he really felt that Carter Page
had some information about a Trump Russia collusion conspiracy theory.
Why would he do it?
Why would he encourage the Democrats on these investigative committees looking into the Trump Russia thing who now don't want Carter Page to testify?
And here's why I guarantee it.
It's a nothing burger.
It's a nothing burger with no cheese or onions or ketchup or anything else.
There's nothing there.
Also, the Democrats have Trump into the the wall in a Trump-Russia collusion thing. They have all
this evidence with Carter Page. Now, all of a sudden, they don't want him to testify. And then
Trump wants him to? Folks, will you please think? I'm just asking liberals. I shouldn't say folks
because you're all pretty good people. Listen, but to the dopes that listen, the liberals,
you're welcome here, but you're still do dopes will you please think for a second why would this guy keep bringing it up listen he
clearly is not the most restrained human being when it comes to twitter usage but the guy's not
dumb you may think he's dumb i'm telling you he's not he's i don't all right i'm moving this is
crazy i really i can't even i focus so, I'm moving. This is crazy. I really, I can't even, I focus so much on this Trump record.
It drives me crazy how liberals can be so stupid.
And they can be suckered so easily.
Another story break there on breaking news was Jim Comey, who last night, it broke that
Comey said he's going to testify that Trump pressured him to stop the investigation.
Ladies and gentlemen, put no credence in this at all. Again, I'm not a Trumpster. I'm not a
Trumpkin. I don't worship Trump. Jim Comey was the FBI director. If Jim Comey believed Trump
was trying to obstruct justice, the number one, why did Jim Comey say otherwise under oath in
Congress when they asked him specifically in a congressional hearing, have you ever been
politically pressured to shut down investigation?
What was his answer, Joe?
No, because that would be a very big deal.
Yep.
Okay.
So was he lying?
Guys, listen, the guy either has credibility and principles or he doesn't.
So what are we supposed to believe?
That when he was asked if he was pressured to shut down any investigation, he said no
when he was lying then?
Or is he lying now when supposedly it broke yesterday in the Washington Examiner that Jim Comey is going to testify that he was
pressured to stop an investigation? What is it? Which one is it? Oh, but he took notes in the
office where Trump said he hoped the case would go away. Well, why didn't he report it, Jim Comey?
Oh, that's right, because he wasn't fired yet and he didn't need something to throw back at Trump.
I put nothing into that. I would strongly suggest you disregard
this man's testimony. He is nothing but a glory dog. He has ruined the lives now of two presidential
candidates and a president. Donald Trump is a presidential candidate. Hillary Clinton is a
presidential candidate who I think deserved it, by the way, and clearly trying to ruin the life
of Donald Trump right now with no evidence to back it up. And it's really pathetic and sad to watch.
Okay. I got a lot to get through. So let's really pathetic and sad to watch okay i got a lot
to get through so let's let's uh let's bang this out this we used to say when we kids bang it out
bang it out that'd be a total joe thing hey bang it out bang it up babe so critical
yeah i read this story yesterday it was really troubling you probably heard about it this
evergreen state college campus in Washington,
there was a day of absence where a group of minority students, they called it the day of absence. And their demands were that white people leave the campus for the day, that you were
supposed to leave the college campus. Now, when I read this, I have to be honest with you, I thought
this was a joke. When I first saw the story a couple of days ago on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox, I thought it was
a joke and a bad one at that. I'm like, what do you mean you want the white people to leave campus?
I'm like, I don't know. Seriously, are we back in like, is this like reverse Jim Crow? I don't
even understand how the left, which is supposed to be the party of compassion and diversity and tolerance, has become the party of reinstituting Jim Crow.
I mean, now white people must.
It's just, it's freaky.
It was so freaky, I thought.
But it turns out the story's real.
Yep.
white college professor who is not a conservative, by the way, self-admitted,
who teaches a science class who said basically, you know what, I'm going to give you guys a double-barrel middle finger in that I'm not leaving my campus. I have a class to teach,
and I'm going to go teach it, and I'm not leaving, certainly, because I'm white. That's not going to
happen. So, of course, Joe, what did they do? The tolerant liberals showed up and started
screaming and yelling and shut down his class to the point where he had to teach the class outside. And it's interesting. He wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal people. And I don't mean this as a knock.
It's a really good piece.
But critical theory, it could be an op-ed in and of itself.
And if you don't understand what critical theory means to the left,
it's like not understanding what freedom, liberty, and capitalism means to the right.
The entire modern left, Joe, is built on the theories
that are bedrocked in critical theory now what is yeah critical
theory is this idea that if you are part of the white patriarchal male power system i'm speaking
in terms of a leftist now so be careful folks the pros and cons people don't like when i do this i'm
trying to give you the perspective of leftists that if you're a white a part of the white patriarchal male power structure
in the united states that your perception of the world that you have not earned the right basically
to talk about there is no objective reality everything you see will be seen through your
your de facto power as a white male with privilege okay So your voice is not to be taken seriously.
And this is a big topic. So folks, I'm asking, I'm begging you to stick with me for a second,
because when you understand this, you will stop asking a lot of questions about the left. Like,
why do they do that? Why do they do this? Why do they do that? Why do they want your money? Why
do they want to take your healthcare? It all makes sense, but it's bedrocked in critical theory.
So I broke it down into some easy numbers here to make it simple to understand.
So critical theory is a way, number one, to get you.
One, it's ridiculous.
It's utter absurdity.
The basic premise of it, if I could simplify it down to a talking point, Joe, is that reality
isn't reality.
Reality depends on who you are.
So if you're a white male your your sense of reality
means nothing to someone who's a black male because they've experienced the world differently
and you may say well okay well that makes sense really does it like they will take it as far as
to mean like you know two plus two doesn't equal four if that math is used to advance the white
male power structure you're like wait what two plus two is four if you're white or blue or green, you dopes.
Critical theories, it's nonsense.
It's garbage.
But here's the purpose behind it.
The left, through Marx and a lot of the creators of this nonsensical 1930s era theory stuff
that has penetrated into the modern left, needed to get you to ignore reality, okay?
stuff that has penetrated into the modern left needed to get you to ignore reality okay remember the goal of the far left the the liberal hacks joe and the status is the power of the state
now no one gives up freedom voluntarily so the only way to get you to run away from capitalism
and free markets and a more prosperous country the one you live in now and to get you to believe it
was it was it was garbage the only way to do it was to say like
hey listen this history's been written by the victors here and this is an exploit exploitative
country we've taken everything from everyone else we we killed and slayed the indians remember keep
forgetting all the good stuff we've done and only pointing out our historical errors so i underlined
it point number one it's a way to get you to ignore the realities of freedom and the realities
of freedom are you live in the most prosperous, beautiful, wonderful country in the history of humankind at the best time to be alive right now.
The only way to get you to ignore that is to slowly dismantle that by recreating it and recreating it through.
Well, the successful people, the white people and the patriarchs of the family and the Christians and all those, they rewrote history.
Here's the real history.
We killed the Indians.
We stole everything.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
Yeah.
They have to rewrite reality.
I'm not saying this stuff didn't happen, but rewrite reality.
And what I mean by that is, of course, that all did happen.
We absolutely had slavery.
We treated the Indians terribly.
But every society on earth has had its
has had its major failures it's you have to ignore all the good stuff so they want you to ignore the
prosperity of now number two they need to detach you critical theory from objective truth i've said
this before it's a way to again to empower the state is if there's an objective truth out there, God and the family,
and if I'm getting complicated, slow me down here.
No, you're on.
You know what I'm saying, right?
The objective truth is that our rights come from God
in the United States.
That is a bedrock of being a conservative,
a libertarian, and a good Republican.
Our rights do not come from the state.
They come from God, the capital G-O-D.
The Constitution only enshrines
those in a governing system
the government doesn't give you anything
the government just secures
what God has given you freedom
the family does the same thing
it's an objective set of values
at nuclear family
it's the bedrock of a modern society
a father, a mother, loving children
we don't
celebrate sexual promiscuity and divorce and things like that. Those are objective truths.
We should not be doing... Now, I'm not saying people don't slip. I'm not saying people don't
sin and do all this other bad stuff and don't hurt their own families. What I'm saying is,
just because they do it doesn't mean the objective truth goes away.
So, number one, they have to get you to ignore the objective truth goes away. So number one,
they have to get you to ignore the success of the United States. Number two, they have to detach you
from objective truth and get you to believe that the two objective truths, right? Family's a good
thing. God gives us values. Those things have to be destroyed. Make sense now? Why critical theory
always attacks Christianity? Why it always attacks God? Why theory always attacks christianity why it always attacks god why it
always attacks objective truths like men and women there's no men and women sexuality is a state of
mind if you're a woman you can think you were a man um no you can't if you're a woman you're a
woman the chromosomal set you have is female that's the end of it you can you can pretend to
be something else and listen everybody's got their
own issues with that and do what you want but that doesn't change what you are also with the family
this constant effort to attack the family you've even seen it in hollywood culture you know
movies like uh what was that movie with kevin spacey where you know he's the he's the family
guy and all of a sudden it's all dark. Yeah. Yeah. American,
American something.
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like that's what Hollywood does.
They attack the family to make you believe that the objective truth,
that the family's the bedrock of a strong society has to fall apart.
I'm going to get to this.
You probably wondering how this relates to the Washington state piece,
but I'll get to that in a second.
One more final thing in here.
When you create that vacuum by wiping out God,
by attacking God, by attacking the church, all things liberals do all the time, by attacking
free speech, by attacking the family, by attacking the very idea that there are two sexes. When you've
broken all of that down, you replace that vacuum with the state and the state takes over your
money, takes over your healthcare, and the state tells you what your values are. This has always
been the goal of Marxists and the critical theorist people who are real dopes. The guy, the way this
ties into the Evergreen College story, and the reason you have to understand all of this is you
can't argue with these people. And if you listen to the videos and you watch the videos of the
students screaming at the guy who happens to be white, they tell him he has no voice because he
can't understand them
because he's white. Because in critical theory, again, Joe, you're taught that the white patriarchal
people have no voice because their voice can't be taken seriously because there's no objective
truth. And the only objective truth, the white patriarchal power players understand is their
truth. And their truth is not really truth.
It's just a way to maintain their power. Folks, this is clearly nonsense, okay?
This is clearly nonsense. If you happen to be white, you can perfectly understand what pain,
what love, what tragedy feels like, what loss feels like. You are perfectly capable
of empathizing with another human being, whether they're black or Asian or whatever it may be.
This is a ridiculous thing.
I mean, listen, the civil rights struggle was fought by people of all races, and it
primarily obviously impacted black America.
But there are people who understood this struggle and sacrificed a lot for this.
So the whole purpose of the piece that he writes in the op-ed, he's like, listen, this
all came to a crescendo years ago because he's in the science department when people in the in the
humanities side started embracing this critical theory and then it became he says like a red and
blue axis in the college where the science the hard science people couldn't talk to the critical
theory side like the humanity side because the humanity humanity side said, don't take those guys seriously. Look, they're the white patriarchs.
Nothing they say matters. They say two plus two equals four. They're just saying that to
maintain their power, which is really dumb. But folks, this is why the left right now,
this is how they justify everything. I'll tie this up for you in a neat little bow.
When the left beats people at rallies, shuts people down
on college campuses, and we expect them to feel bad, right? We expect them, like when conservatives
do dumb things, conservatives will generally call other conservatives out. But like, hey,
that was really stupid. Just don't do it. It's because we believe in principles. You know,
we force out our own people when they're caught doing drugs. I mean, there was a guy down here
in Florida, a congressman, got caught buying drugs. Conservatives didn't defend them.
Like, oh, that was a good decision.
But a lot of liberals, not all, will defend violence against conservatives.
Because, Joe, you have to understand, they are critical theory people, these embeds.
And they believe that anything done to fight the white patriarchal power structure in society is the ends justify the means, literally.
That there is no wrong. patriarchal power structure in society is the ends justify the means literally that there's
there is no wrong so beating people up isn't wrong if it breaks down this white male power structure
and folks you think i'm making this up google critical theory i i there is nothing i put out
in this show that one is not relevant to to the news of the day and to larger ideological fights
we should all be fighting but number two nothing i put out there is like crap I just threw out of my head.
Like, let me make up something for the show today.
Critical.
This is real.
This is.
And frankly, I think I'm almost sugarcoating it.
These people do.
The ends justify the means to them because they don't believe anything a conservative
says who is a white patriarch or contributing to the white patriarch.
They'll shut Ben Carson down, too.
It doesn't matter that he's black. No, no, no. He's contributing to the white patriarch. They'll shut Ben Carson down too. It doesn't matter that he's black.
No, no, no.
He's contributing to the white patriarchal power structure.
Nothing you say is worth taking seriously.
And that's what led to the blow up on Evergreen,
that the Evergreen State campus in Washington,
because they didn't even believe that the science teacher should be taken seriously.
It didn't matter that he was a liberal, Joe.
It was that he was a white dude and he refused to evacuate the campus. You mentioned to them, hey guys,
I thought we fought against segregation and Jim Crow. No, no, no. We're breaking up the white
patriarchal power structure. Okay, whatever. You can't talk to them. There is no talking to them.
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point that we brought up on the podcast last week, but I just wanted to reinforce it too,
and just want to close out this Trump-Russia thing. I know it's making everybody sick,
but I think it's really important we understand this.
I'm going to get into another story after this.
Folks, if the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory had an element of truth to it, then McCarthy brought this up.
Does the left not realize that this Jared Kushner back channel, alleged back channel to Russia that the Russians proposed for communication? Does the left not realize that both of those stories can't be true at the same time?
McCarthy brought this up on that Fox News show, The Specialist, and I think we brought it up on
the show the other day, Joe. How were Trump and Russia colluding if the back channel to communicate
regarding the collusion was only proposed in December of 2016, a month before Trump took
office and after the election.
It doesn't make sense. But the left, folks, is so stupid. You have to understand this.
They are so dumb that they are so eager for clickbait headlines that they don't even realize their entire narrative is falling apart in front of their very eyes. This story makes no sense.
It doesn't even pass the smell test. But kudos to McCarthy for bringing it out in front of a
national cable news audience. How do you collude to win an election when the back channel to set up the collusion
was, according to your own story, only proposed in December of 2016, and by the way, never followed
up on? That only makes sense to loony tune liberals desperate, desperate for a controversy
that doesn't exist. It's really pathetic, sad stuff. They are masters of clickbaiting.
Oh, completely, Joe. It's starting to really get under my skin.
Hey, one thing about the Paris Accords I didn't mention yesterday, and I want to applaud a couple
of folks out there, McCarthy, one of them, who wrote this piece at PJ Media. A while ago,
we got into this stuff pretty deep about subsidiarity, and I'm not going to dig that deep into it today. But the Paris Accords, the left is going nuts because Trump is discussing
pulling out of all or portion of the Paris Accords, these climate deals. I mentioned it yesterday.
But one of the reasons the left is losing its mind, folks, is not just,
it's not really going to have an environmental ramification. As I said yesterday,
these Paris Accords don't provide for any real penalties if the United States doesn't reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
It's all based on voluntary. It's a voluntary bottom-up type structure. Now, the reason the
left is losing its mind is, we used to really dig heavy into this stuff, is the left is into
globalism. They don't believe in subsidiarity. The left doesn't believe in local rule.
They hate it.
They hate local rule.
And there's a very simple reason for this.
And pay attention.
This is another one of those critical theory type moments
where when you understand it, you get it.
Okay?
You'll understand now why the left does destructive things
like beat people up because they beat people up
because they think you're part of the white patriarchal structure
and the ends justify the means.
And you can't be trusted to speak,
so you should be shut down at every opportunity because everything you do will
reinforce your power structure. That's critical theory. On the Paris Accords, they believe in
globalism. And the reason they love globalism is because you cannot escape, no matter what.
You can't escape. They want the largest, most unmanageable bureaucracy possible to govern
the United States. That way you can't escape bad policies. Here's the example I used to use.
Conservatives and libertarians believe in the opposite. They believe in subsidiarity,
that all governing possible should be done at the most local level possible relevant to that
governing.
So I live in Palm City, Florida.
Taxation should be run out of Palm City, Florida.
And the reason is that you're more accountable that way.
Palm City, Florida, I don't know how many residents we have down here, 20,000.
No idea.
I haven't even looked it up recently.
But if we vote in a Martin County commissioners, right, in Florida, if we vote them in, your vote is
one of, figure half the people vote, so your vote is one of 10,000.
It makes a real difference.
Your petitions and your vote matters.
Also, if you don't like what's happening in Martin County, Florida, where I live, you
can move.
You can move to Okeechobee.
You can move to Broward.
You can move to Miami-Dade.
You can escape it.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
Yeah.
So number one, there's accountability because your vote means more because you're voting in Martin County with only
10,000 people. Your voice means more. Your petitions mean more. Number two, you can escape.
When you start expanding that power net and that bureaucracy to the state of Florida,
then to the United States, and then to UN governing board, and then to the Paris Accords,
which governs the whole world, Joe, the left can do things you can never, ever escape from. One, your vote means nothing because you're in a
post-constitutional world. I mean, Joe, how can we be in a constitutional world if we're subscribing
to international treaties that don't have to abide by our constitution? So your vote means nothing.
No matter who you vote in office, it doesn't matter. We're all going to have to succumb to
this global bureaucracy sometime soon. Secondly, you can't escape from it. So when the left says, say, in Martin County, hey,
everybody's going to have to start using alcohol gas in their car or electric, or you're not going
to be able to drive on the roads, people are just going to move out of Martin County. They'd say,
we're not going to do that. We're in a Republican County, so it wouldn't happen. But imagine
something dumb like that happened. They would say, we're not staying here, we're leaving, you can escape. But if that were to
happen, Joe, in a globalist endeavor by some UN mandate that the United States signed on to,
I got news for you. If it was enforceable, you couldn't escape it anywhere. So as the United
States, the point in relation to the Paris Accords is the left is freaking out because as the United
States starts to pull out of this globalist agenda and back and focus on home, what's happening in
the United States, the left realizes that one, elections will matter again because
we're voting on people in the United States that are going to legislate on US policies.
And number two, there's a way to escape that.
And that escape, now you may say, well, I don't want to escape the United States.
That's not the point.
Businesses can.
Not that that's a good thing, folks, but businesses being able to escape
a bad business climate, if a Democrat comes in and say, ups the corporate tax to like 70% in the
United States, businesses can escape. And it's the very threat of them leaving that keeps US
lawmakers from doing really dumb stuff. You get what I'm saying, Joe? Yeah. The minute that global
infrastructure for taxation exists and they say, everybody in the world pays 70%. There is no escape. And the liberals understand that if this starts to fall apart,
Paris Accords first, everything else second, Basel, all these other things, international
finance regulations, all that other stuff, that all of a sudden their desire for a globalist regime
that you can't escape from collapses. Ladies and gentlemen, you think I'm making this up.
I'm telling you, you're out of your mind, not me. I have studied these people forever. Everything they do,
they do with a purpose. There's nothing they want more than to wipe out subsidiarity and
local control. They absolutely hate it. Okay. Last story of the day, and I feel a little bad
about this because as a Secret Service agent, I should have went into a little more detail on
this Kathy Griffin thing. I talked about the the investigative angle but i didn't go into the legal angle of
this thing not just from a secret service perspective but from a free speech one and
this always bothers me because there's a lot of misinformation out there on the cable news
channels with talking heads who don't know what they're talking about, who open their mouths and embarrass themselves. And can I be candid for a second here, Joe, with you?
Sure.
A while ago, I did an appearance, and I think I may have said this too, and that's why this
has really bothered me. Because when you talk about free speech, you're going to hear this
all the time. This is in relation to the Kathy Griffin photo where she had a decapitated bloody head of Trump.
It was disgusting.
She was fired.
CNN let her go.
I saw last night, it looks like a couple of concerts have been canceled now.
Sponsors pulled out this Squatty Potty thing, which is an interesting company to be a sponsor.
They pulled out.
She's in a lot of trouble.
Now, I discussed yesterday the Secret Service angle, how they handle it. But from a legal angle, it is 100% protected free speech.
Now, I'm bringing this up because free speech has become a hot issue because there was also an incident in Portland, Joe.
I don't know if you heard about this one.
But the mayor in Portland, in response to a disgusting hate crime.
Yeah, did you see this?
This guy attacked two Muslim women.
The guy's just a demon spawn. Heck's veto coming up yeah this this guy so what happened is the portland mayor
exactly the portland mayor there was a an alt-right uh rally scheduled and the uh the portland mayor
canceled the rally and his the reason he said he canceled it was because of this violent act by
this guy by the way who was who was a Jill Stein supporter.
He's not a Trump supporter, which I find kind of odd.
But the Portland mayor said something interesting, and it ties into the Kathy Griffin story with the whole free speech motif.
He said, well, hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
And I said, really?
That's strange because that's actually not true. Folks, number one, no one knows really what hate speech is. Hate speech is, of course, a subjective term. I mean, I think a lot of what the left says is hate speech, but hate speech is absolutely, let me be crystal clear on this.
Hate speech is absolutely protected by the First Amendment.
It's not morally or ethically the upstanding thing to do.
I'm not suggesting you should engage in it.
I don't even know what it is.
It depends on what you say, actually.
But the Portland mayor is absolutely wrong. So the heckler's veto, which Joe is correct, is this idea when violence happens and things like that, that the violence is used as an excuse to shut down
future rallies, which Joe is absolutely right. That's exactly what happens here. The hecklers,
and in this case, the guy who was violent, who actually engaged in serious violence,
shut down future speech. He had a veto over future speech. So Joe's absolutely correct.
But I just wanted to give you a quick here to knock this out, because I think I may have said
this once on the air and I'm almost embarrassed about it. I don't know why I let this slip because I pride myself on doing my homework.
People will say with free speech, I'm like, yeah, free speech is protected, but you can't
yell fire in a movie theater. Folks, that's actually not correct. And I've done a lot of
homework on this because I remember that one time I said something like that and I was really upset
at myself. Here is the Supreme Court case and here is exactly what the First Amendment protects. So you leave the show knowing something if you didn't
know about it before. The 1969 case that determines where the limits of free speech go is the
Brandenburg versus Ohio case, and this is exactly from the case. It gives you a three-pronged test
to determine what can be said and not said and what would be prosecutable or not.
Here's the line from the case.
That free speech is not protected if it's directed towards inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
A little wordy.
But what that led to was a three-pronged test.
The speech, Joe.
What that led to was a three-pronged test, the speech, Joe.
So let's say I get up there and say, I think that we should kill this guy right now.
Here are the weapons.
Everybody take them and go do it.
That speech has to meet these three tests to not be protected.
There has to be intent.
There has to be a call for imminence.
And there has to be a likelihood that it's going to happen.
So that example would probably, in a court case,
meet those three tests.
Because one, the intent.
I clearly say, say I'm at a speech, Joe,
and I say, Joe, Joe and everyone else in the speech,
take up arms right now and let's go get Joe Blow.
We're going to attack him right now.
So the intent is clearly there, right?
Yes.
The imminence.
I'm telling you, let's do it right now.
Let's go do it. It's at a rally. People are starting to take it seriously.
And in likelihood, let's say I start
handing out weapons or I say, grow grit
your stuff and let's do it. There's a strong
likelihood what I mean is actually going to happen.
So it has to meet that three-pronged
test, intent, imminence, and likelihood.
So with regards to
the Portland mayor,
a rally that he hasn't even seen yet
that he cancels proactively,
calling it hate speech.
One, he doesn't even know what the intent was
because nobody said anything.
Secondly, there can't be any imminence
because it didn't happen.
And the likelihood they were calling out
people to action is because it didn't happen.
So the Portland mayor is completely wrong
and should be embarrassed.
And just with regards to the Kathy Griffin
decapitation photo, folks, it's disgusting's horrible but it's not it's not a crime in any way
shape or form it's just not i don't believe the secret service is going to prosecute for 871
knowingly and willingly but on the free speech test was the intent there come on i mean she's
an idiot she's really stupid but does anybody think she was really intending on this she doesn't
even have the balls
to do that.
Thank God.
Imminence,
it wasn't really a call to action on it.
She didn't really say anything.
And the likelihood
that something was going to happen
is pretty slim.
So I just wanted to do my homework on that
and be thorough.
I feel like I owe you as much.
All right, folks.
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