The Dan Bongino Show - Ep 481 What the Heck is Going on in the Country Right Now
Episode Date: June 14, 2017In this episode I address the deteriorating political environment in the country and some potential security and political solutions to fix the problem. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcast...choices.com/adchoices
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republican with dan bongino producer joe how are you today man i'm doing good what a day man
oh gosh folks um what a somber day.
You know, my daughter is at a school.
It's Florida.
The schools end early.
So I don't wake up as early.
I usually got up at about 6, 630, and I take her to school.
But lately, I've been getting up at about 7 o'clock or so.
And today, I was super tired.
I was out late last night doing some jujitsu with my daughter, and I was kind of beat up.
So I'm sleeping, and my phone goes off, and it's a text, and I roll over, and I look, and it's Fox.
And they said it was a text from a booker.
Hey, can you come on?
He's breaking news about a shooting. And I thought, please, God, tell me no.
And I looked at the details, and I was like, this is unbelievable, Joe.
I mean, this is incredibly.
You know, guys and ladies, you know, I was a former Secret Service aide.
That's not a mystery to anybody.
I've been warning about this for a long time.
If you listen to this show, I have been on cable news.
I've been doing this show and I've been talking about the consequences of depersonalizing your political opponent and making it a good
versus bad fight instead of a good versus bad ideas fight. Folks, those are two entirely
different things. You know, there's the other day I was discussing critical theory and how the left a
long time ago decided to embrace what's known as critical theory. Please look this up. Right.
And in critical theory, you're taught to view your political opponents as the oppressor versus you,
the oppressed. You're taught to create victim groups, whether they're groups
based on sexuality, race, religion, culture, a common language, and those groups are victims
of the oppressed. And by doing that, you create a moral opposition, a good versus bad fight,
not a good versus bad ideas fight. In other words, taxes show doesn't become about a tax rate and what's the best tax policy for growth. Taxes become about the evil white
patriarchal structure stealing money from the little guy and you therefore have to fight back
on moral grounds, not policy ones. Do you understand how that argument can inflame passions?
Folks, we are in such a dangerous time right now with the political temperature of the
country i don't want to be hyperbolic right now because it's not the appropriate time for it i
mean we have obviously we went through a civil war yeah obviously in the vietnam era with the
protests that were inflamed political passions but i 42, and maybe you all can send me emails and tweet me.
I haven't seen anything like this in the last 40 years.
I mean, there was obviously a lot of rage directed at George W. Bush.
I know.
I was on his security detail as an agent for three years.
I remember the protests.
But what I don't remember is a persistent daily call for treason charges, impeachment, mock decapitation, mock assassination.
The guy's been in office.
What?
Are we even at six months?
Yes.
I'm losing track of time.
Trump's been in office six months.
There have been calls by Madonna to blow up the White House.
Kathy Griffin to chop his head off.
This isn't funny.
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Again, when you view your political opponent as an oppressor, they're not worthy of dignity. I
can't say that enough. And that is what critical theory is encouraging. Why critical theory,
folks, is so dangerous is that it's being taught in our schools. So you may say to yourself,
let's say you're a parent out there and your daughter or son is going to college and all of
a sudden has this hate for Trump like you've never seen. Like, gosh, that's my daughter,
my son. I never saw such, you know, such nastiness before. You have to understand,
like, even if they don't understand what critical theory is, critical theory has
imbued our academic institutions and they're the ones filtering these ideas down to your kids.
Now, folks, we don't know the motivation of the shooter yet.
I want to be crystal clear on this.
We don't.
We'll have to update the show tomorrow.
I'm watching this right now.
The show is not live, but it's as live as possible.
I mean, it's on the air 20 minutes after we're done.
But regardless of the motivation of the shooter, the political temperature in the country has got to be dialed down if we're to proceed forward as a representative democracy, a constitutional republic.
There is no other way.
How can we have a system, Joe, where when one side loses the Democrats, the other side, the Republicans are the oppressors and are be taken out by any means necessary?
How what is this, the third world?
Guys, this critical theory also focuses on objective versus subjective.
Everything to them is subjective, meaning it's only seen through the eye of the beholder.
There are no objective facts to them.
Everything is to reinforce this power structure,
and this power structure has to be dismantled at all costs.
That's why we've seen the growth of this Antifa,
which they think stands for anti-fascist,
but I'm telling you stands for anti-First Amendment,
because you're not allowed to speak.
In their world, your subjective view of the world,
if you're a white male who's a conservative or a Republican,
is only there.
It doesn't matter. No matter what facts you have, no matter what information you have,
it's irrelevant. You are the oppressor and you need to be stopped. Folks, this is critical that
we stop this stuff. Now, a couple things on this, a couple facts I want to put out there from
my perspective as an agent. There's no question in my mind that this was an act of targeted
violence.
I don't think that's a mystery to anyone at this point.
A couple of factors here,
things that we already know that are facts that indicate that this was
targeted violence.
Meaning it wasn't random,
obviously it wasn't a robbery.
I don't think it was a,
you know,
a disgruntled spouse,
a crime of passion.
This was targeted violence.
Yeah.
We have a rifle,
you know, usually the acts of, if in my experience, when you look at a mo crimes of passion. This was targeted violence. Yeah. We have a rifle. Usually the acts of,
in my experience, when you look at crimes of passion, emotional crimes, again, a spouse who's involved in domestic violence, who's beating up another spouse, a monster sadly ended or
crimes of passion is what I'm getting at.
Usually those acts are up close and personal because that person wants the other person
to know that they did it.
So let's say you're in an abusive relationship
and the husband or the wife or whatever
has been stalking you.
If they're going to do something like this,
they're going to go do it up close and personal.
Obviously in this case, it wasn't a husband or a wife, but I'm just trying to tell you that these
crimes of passion, I'm using that example. Does that make sense, Joe, to show you that these are
usually up close and personal crimes? You wouldn't use a rifle. A rifle shot from a distance,
given the length of the barrel, it makes it easier to do your act from a distance.
So you would typically use a handgun, a knife, whatever, a baseball bat,
whatever it may be. And you want that person to know it was you that did it. So this says to me
that this was an act of targeted violence directed at a group of people, whether it,
you know, targeted violence can be a political assassination. It can be school violence.
It was targeted at a very specific group. Now, there were some reports earlier. If you heard
Congressman Ron DeSantis,
who is a congressman down here, I think in the sixth district in Florida. I know Ron is a really good guy. He was at the practice, the baseball practice in Virginia, Joe, and he had said at
one point that someone in the parking lot had approached them. He left early. The shooting
happened at 7.15 and he had left at seven o'clock. And he said that a strange
looking man had walked up to him and asked him, now this is folks, this is really odd, and had
asked him, are those Republicans or Democrats out there on the field? Now, if that's true,
I have no reason to question Ron's a good man. He was a JAG officer in the military. He's no
reason to lie about this. That adds another layer of complexity and just confirms my story. Number one, it was a rifle use, meaning it was
a distance event, meaning the guy was looking to impact maximum casualties, but wasn't so much
concerned about getting up in their face like some kind of crime of passion would be. But secondly,
if he did ask someone if those Republicans or Democrats and it started firing because he heard
they were Republicans, folks, this is really even worse. This is incredibly dangerous. Now, I want to get to a possible solution here because me,
given my Secret Service perspective, without a way to fix this is kind of useless. But before I do
that, and folks, I rarely do this. If you're a regular listener to the show, you know... I mean,
Joe, how many times have we played my clips? Once or twice maybe in two years?
Once or twice maybe.
Yeah. I try not to do
that because it's you know you it's kind of stupid like hey listen to me now listen to me again on
tape but this is critical folks i want to play this clip i did it's short uh from fox and friends
this weekend to show you that i'm not just making this up out of nowhere people like me i'm not the
only one there've been a bunch of people mark levine limbaugh hannity who've been saying for a long time, we have to dial down the temperature against Trump. Something's going to happen for a long time. But I want you to listen to these words. I had said to Sandra Smith, Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade this weekend or whoever was filling in on Fox and Friends on the weekend show. Play the play the cut. I'm not surprised by this at all. You know, the party of JFK, the Democrat Party, has been on a slow decline since then, and they've lost their moral base.
Again, I'm not talking about all Democrats, but you have to understand the modern far leftist,
the modern liberal sees the world in terms of the good and the bad guys, the oppressor versus
the oppressed. They don't care what ends they need to justify their means, which is removing
Trump from power. If it's normalizing violence against them, if it's using outrageous, outlandish language, if it's making up false
crimes against them, like the Trump-Russia fairy tale, the conspiracy theory, they don't care.
They've lost any moral bedrock. And the left has gone mad with rage.
Hear that last line? The left has gone mad with rage. Folks, I use my words on cable television very,
very carefully. That's not my show. That's their show. On my show, I can say what I want,
and I do. I'm very careful on cable because it's a national audience. It's not my show.
Some people may not know me, and I'm a little more deliberate. Those of you listening to the
show understand the context of my words. You can see what I'm getting at, Joe. They'll understand
it because you're regular listeners to the show.
I can tell by how our download patterns work.
Even the people who join in typically download the entire library as they come on board.
I am careful.
I use that term rage very deliberately, and I used it in conjunction with the term excuse me, with the term normalizing violence.
The left is normalized violence.
And what I mean by normalizing violence to not get lost in a sea of word salads here is.
When something happens on the right that involves let me give you an example, I was I'm an activist at heart.
I love doing rallies and speeches and things like that, that was my thing
that's what I always did
before I got into podcasting and running
for office and stuff, I really enjoy it
I was at, and I know Joe
you've probably been at some too on your morning show
you ever been at a conservative rally
where some knucklehead shows up
with a flag that says like
kill Obama or something like that
that guy is almost
immediately every time thrown out by the organizers. Folks, I'm not arguing the point.
If you're a liberal listening and you're like, yeah, right, just turn off the show. I really
don't care. I was there. I saw it. I can tell you the actual events where it happened. Gun rallies
in Maryland, Second Amendment rallies. There was a rally in D.C. with the government shutdown. I was there when I saw people thrown out for, frankly, less than that.
The signs didn't even say that. I've seen it, Joe. I know you've seen it. I know you've heard about
it. I know Sean, who you do the morning show with, has seen it himself. The right does a darn good
job, not a perfect job, but a darn good job of policing itself.
Conservatives do it.
Again, not open for dispute.
I was at the Heritage Foundation for my book.
It's still out there on YouTube.
If you Googled Bongino Heritage Foundation, a lady got up, said something entirely I thought
inappropriate about Obama.
I said, listen, that's just not true.
And you saying it at this event doesn't make it true.
I could have said, oh, yeah, it's only conservatives. Don't worry. I'm just going to pile on.
I didn't do it. I'm not trying to beatify myself. I'm just saying we do a good job of policing
ourselves. The only way to stop the normalization of violence, in other words, the lack of outrage
is to show some outrage when it happens, Joe. Yep. Where's Nancy Pelosi? Seriously,
where's retired Senator Harry Reid? Where's Chuck Schumer? Where's Barack Obama? Where are them on
statements, written press statements or press conferences, giving a press conference going,
listen, let's just lay it out. This is what I'd like to see from them to stop the normalization of violence.
We disagree with Trump.
I don't like his tax policy.
I don't like his Obamacare policy.
I don't like his public education policy.
Frankly, I don't like anything about Trump.
This is them talking, not me.
Right.
Okay.
But mock assassinations, mock decapitations, shutting down free speech, assaulting people on college campuses, ripping their signs down and treating them like animals is completely, entirely inappropriate.
We wouldn't accept it from conservatives and liberals. It's time to wake up. Where's the speech? Where's the speech? Where's the speech?
Where is that? Joe, have you heard it am i missing something nope crickets
dan crickets you're damn right crickets you're damn right crickets because you're on the air
four hours every morning on a conservative show in baltimore and this is what sean has been talking
about this forever sean casey by that sean hannity does his morning show with Joe forever, where's the left?
you know I said to an interviewer
on Fox Business who called me
Joe do you remember the
John McCain presidential rally, Bill Cunningham
the radio host gets up and he called
Obama, Barack Hussein Obama
and McCain went nuts, you remember that?
yeah, yeah, McCain was like
he got out, that was entirely inappropriate
folks, the guy used Obama's middle name,
never said anything else about him personal
that was going to be like an insult
or God forbid a call for assassination
or to blow up the White House.
He used Obama's middle name and McCain went crazy.
We got to stop this.
It was a national outcry.
Where's the outcry amongst the left right now?
All he did was use Obama's middle name.
They had a rodeo clown, Joe, put an Obama mask on.
They didn't do a fake decapitation.
The guy got fired.
He was the subject of national news stories humiliating this guy.
Because conservatives police their own.
Where's the left right now, folks? because conservatives police their own.
Where's the left right now, folks?
Where are you guys?
Don't vote for us. Fine. Whatever.
You want to hike taxes? Vote your people in office and do it. You love Obamacare? Vote your people in office and defend it.
You love the public education system status quo?
Fine, defend it.
But where are you on this?
On speech suppression?
On political violence?
Folks, again, it doesn't matter what the motive of the shooter is now.
I mean, it matters for the investigation later on,
but it doesn't matter for this conversation.
If this guy turns out tomorrow, Joe, I mean, I'll give you a hypothetical, but I absolutely mean this.
Let's say tonight we find out that the computer, excuse me, the shooter.
I'm looking at my computer right now. I'm so fired up about this topic.
If we find out tonight that the shooter thought there were Democrats on
the field and it was a Tea Party guy, this exact same conversation will happen tomorrow. I promise
you, you have my word. It doesn't matter if the guy had an R versus a D behind his name. It doesn't
matter if he shared Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump stuff on Facebook, it doesn't matter if he shared Hillary Clinton versus Ted Cruz's stuff on Facebook.
It doesn't matter. He's a savage. And the political temperature has got to be dialed down.
My Lord, and I'm not using his name in vain. Do we need him now more than ever?
Fight for what you believe in. But fighting for what you believe in doesn't include actually
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Solution-wise, again, so number one, we have to dial down the temperature,
and the temperature is only going to be dialed down if Democrats take over the conversation at
this point, talk to their media, Dem media complex, their media friends, because they're
not friends to Republicans, and they start giving public statements about this, which dials this
stuff down. But secondly is the security arrangements. Now, a couple of people have
asked me, well, wasn't it Secret
Service? No, Secret Service does not protect the members of the House and Senate. They're not
involved with that at all. We have nothing to do with that. The United States Secret Service
protects the president, his family, the vice president, his family, foreign heads of state.
They also have details on some people in the White House who the president deems necessary, and the DHS secretary has a Secret Service detail as well.
So they don't protect foreign ministers.
They protect foreign heads of state and basically the heads of our government, the president, vice president, and their families.
Members of Congress, some select members, folks, do have security details, but those details aren't Secret Service.
They are U.S. Capitol Police.
Very good guys.
I've trained with them
before. Attended a intelligence and surveillance class with a lot of these guys. Really good,
really talented, really smart law enforcement officers. They have a uniform division. Those
are the guys outside the Capitol in the blue uniforms. And they have a plainclothes division
with the earpieces that does what basically Secret Service does. They do dignitary protection for
their guys.
Now, one of the questions I was getting from media people this morning is, well,
who gets protection and who doesn't? Well, here are the general rules on that are
leadership has protection all the time. So Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, the leadership of both
parties, Paul Ryan, Steve Scalise, who is the House majority whip,
he's in a leadership position, and Kevin McCarthy, the House majority leader,
they have details also on the Democratic side. It's not a partisan thing. Does that make sense,
Joe? The other rank and file members, so the members up, I don't think there are any leadership
members in Maryland or down here in Florida. They don't have details. They do not have security. That may surprise a lot
of people. These guys don't have security details. Now, folks, someone said to me,
well, are they going to get security details now? Folks, there are 535 members when you factor in
the House and Senate, 435 members and 100 members of the Senate. I'm telling you my history with
this, that that's not even logistically possible. And here's why. Here's the takeaway from this. Security for them is a zero-sum game, okay?
So Joe, if you have a uniformed Capitol Police officer, who's let's say his post is the entrance
to the Rayburn building, that post has to be filled 24 hours a day. So there were say three
people plus like a backup. So there's four people doing it.
The minute you take four of those guys and say, hey, you're going to go protect Congressman X from Florida, well, what do you do about the door to the building? It's zero sum. In other words,
you take from one, you're going to have to take from somewhere else, and there's just not enough
manpower. Now, with the Secret Service, it's different. We have a limited portfolio of
protectees. We have the president, the vice president, foreign heads of state.
It gets busy around the UN time, but we have a little bit of plasticity in there because
we have field offices.
So Joe, let's say, God forbid, there was an attack against the president, right?
The Secret Service can go to the New York field office and say, hey, we're bumping up
the PPD, the Presidential Protective Division.
We need 50 guys.
That can happen.
That can't happen at the Capitol.
Now, you may say, well, they could just hire new guys and train them.
Absolutely correct.
You are correct.
Good point.
Well done, folks, for those of you who just said that.
Here's the problem.
The screening process alone is about six months.
The training's another six months. And then the OJT, on-the-job training to get ready to do personal protection is probably another two or three months after that.
You're at least a year away. By that time, we could already be through the midterms.
You see the problem, Joe? I sure do.
Okay. Now I define the problem. Great. What are you going to do about it? Here's a solution I
see that protects both the taxpayer interest, protects the members of Congress. Because folks,
listen, I know I'm going to get emails on, and it's fine. I understand. I appreciate
different perspectives. I get a lot of critical emails on, and it's fine. I understand. I appreciate different perspectives.
I get a lot of critical emails, a lot of positive emails.
Someone's going to say, Dan, this is one incident.
Let's relax.
Not every member of Congress needs a security detail full time.
Folks, I agree.
I'm not saying they do.
I'm just saying that right now with the political temperature, I think it would be a pretty good
idea to start to consider ways to keep the...
I mean, folks, if this happens again, God forbid forbid in the next couple weeks i mean i'm serious the entire integrity of the
constitutional republic is at stake like people are going to start to panic a little bit if this
were to happen again for a minuscule taxpayer cost what we could do joe in the in the interim
while we bump up the capitol police force and at least give a few members that what we would call
portal portal portal to portal protection which is door- to door, meaning they don't have to be there 24 hours.
But let's say they pick some up, they get them to the Capitol, they bump up security while these guys are off campus a little bit.
What we could do in the interim is we could work better with local law enforcement. is. The way Capitol Police will work is a lot of times if a member, if there's a legitimate threat
against a member, a senator or a congressman, they go back to their district. I live in Palm
City, Florida. So let's say the congressman around here goes and gives a town hall and there's a
viable threat. Sometimes they'll send a Capitol Police member, but sometimes they'll work with,
I live in Martin County, they'll work with the Martin County Sheriff and they'll say,
hey, can you guys provide some protection at the event, which they typically do anyway. So I think what we're going to have to do is get a little
more vibrant engagement with local police officers to protect these guys when they're back in
district, or even with DC Metro right now, which covers DC. And I know there's some jurisdictional
issues, but you have DC Metro, you have park police in DC, you have federal protective service.
There's enough assets, you see what I'm getting at, Joe, in DC to at have a number, you have federal protective service. There's enough assets. You
see what I'm getting at Joe in DC to at least in the interim help kind of buttress the security
plan. Because listen, like I said, the political temperature is way too hot right now and it's
just really disturbing. So I think we really need to look into that. We need to look at
bumping up the Capitol police force. Folks, it's a minuscule cost to taxpayers. I am a small government guy at heart, but the political assassination, which may have been, this may
be a case again of targeted violence, is a legitimate threat to the Republic as we know it.
And don't be spoiled by the fact that we've lived in such a safe place for so long that we just
accept this as the status quo. It doesn't have to be.
If we become a place where violence becomes completely normalized against political figures, we're going to have complete total chaos. Don't be misled by the fact that, oh, it's the United
States. That won't happen here. Those are famous last words. Believe me. By the way, folks, we're
wasting money on everything else. I see no good reason to not do this. You're talking again about a minimal cost. We have a $4
trillion budget. We are wasting trillions and trillions of dollars on countless government
programs that are doing absolutely nothing to actually secure the integrity of our constitutional
system and make sure that we have a good tight security net around these guys when they need it.
Democrats and Republicans to get
the job done free of intimidation is literally not even a thousandth of a penny for every American.
You're talking about like a minuscule, minuscule cost. It's important we understand this.
One more note on this before we go. I had a couple other stories I was going to get to,
inflation, Obamacare, but obviously in light of the events today, it's probably entirely inappropriate to be
discussing that stuff. I wanted to get to this instead. When I was an agent, we have a section
in the Secret Service called Protective Intelligence. Now, Protective Intelligence,
what these agents do is they investigate presidential threat cases. Now, all of those cases, this is not classified information in any way,
shape, or form, by the way. There's nothing proprietary about it. They talk about it in
public all the time. All of the protective intelligence cases are run out of the headquarters
division, the headquarters division of the Secret Service. They then have sections of the field
office where the agents are out in the field. So if there have sections of the field office where the agents
are out in the field. So if there's a threat case called in into the New York field office,
let's say a guy in the Bronx calls in from a pay phone and says, I want to shoot the president or
whatever it may be, and we go out, we get him. It'll be New York field agents that do that,
but the headquarters section, the intelligence division will monitor and oversee the case.
So when you do put a case together, that case, the first three digits of the case number are headquarters. So the New York field
office, I think was 108 or something. That was their three digit code for the case number.
So let's say, Joe, a counterfeit case in New York, it's the first case of the year. Let's say it's
108-1, right? When you run a counterfeit case, that's the New York case number, and you run a protective
intelligence case, it'll have a headquarters intelligence division number before it.
And the reason that is, is because you can't close out the case without headquarters reviewing
it first.
That's how seriously they take this stuff, right?
These threat cases.
They run them out of headquarters, but we do them.
And when we do them, sorry to ramble, I'm just trying to give you some background how
these things work.
The agents are responsible, even rookies, for going out there and interviewing these
people.
I'm telling you, I've interviewed, I was in a PI squad for a long time.
You have no idea what's going to inspire a lot of these people to enact a political
violence.
It could be anything from they change the bread selection at their local supermarket and the guy thinks the CIA did it
to... Folks, you may be... I'm not kidding. You have no idea what's going to knock one of these
people over the edge if they're thinking about an act of targeted political violence. You have
no idea. I'm saying that because if it's the bread selection
in the supermarket that tips them over the edge, what do you think this person with a severe
delusional belief system who thinks the CIA is targeting him and Trump told him to do it,
what do you think this person thinks when he sees Kathy Griffin holding a bloody stump head of
Trump that's like a stump? What do you think that person thinks? What do you think that person thinks when they're watching a mock assassination for
a play in New York City?
What do you think that person's thinking?
Folks, the answer is that person's thinking like, oh, wow, look at this.
Maybe I can do that too.
I've seen it.
I've interviewed these people.
Do not think for a second if you're engaged in this on the left that you're not contributing
to the potential demise of someone later on if something like this happens. All right, folks, thanks again for
tuning in. I really appreciate it. I'll see you all tomorrow.