The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 515 Bernie Sanders' Ridiculous Appearance on CNN

Episode Date: August 1, 2017

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Dan Bongino. You want the truth, come to this podcast. You want someone to BS you and be full of crap, go to a political rally. The Dan Bongino Show. We have to call it what it is and we have to stop being delicate about it. Get ready to hear the truth about America. We're not like the leftists. The conservatives don't need safe spaces.

They don't need lollipops and coloring books and teddy bears. I'm good, okay? safe spaces. They don't need lollipops and coloring books and teddy bears. I'm good, okay? On a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. All right, welcome to the Renegade Republican with Dan Bongino. Producer Joe, how are you today? I'm doing well. I look forward to this moment every day, Dan-o. Yeah, man, we're running a little late because I screwed over Producer Joe big time by sending him two Bernie Sanders clips with like five minutes to go before we get on the air. So forgive me for the 10 or so minute delay. We usually start a little earlier, but they were so priceless. I had to stick them in the show today. I mean, it's just the liberals.

They're just so dumb that they eat this stuff up. Bernie Sanders is on State of the Union with Jake Tapper. And it's just it's emblematic of liberalism in general he never answers the question he totally deflects and then i'll play the cuts for you by the way as we get into the show i'm just so fired up because joe just played him for me he's like listen to him first before we get on the air because he cuts him up and and then he ends the clips by saying but we need to have a serious conversation about this oh okay thanks so don't answer any of the questions deny the evidence you know do a complete deflection like captain america's shield out of vibranium or whatever and then at the end when you're done deflecting and you never get to the substantive

issues at hand and you don't answer the question then joe wrap it all up by saying but by the way we need to have a serious conversation oh okay right thanks bird this guy's incredible so we'll get to that up in a second hey just a quick personal note so for those of you who've been asking me and uh about my car situation because you know i talk about my life on the show i finally sunk the deal on a raptor yesterday even joe doesn't know that no but yeah if you want to follow me on instagram i'm at the bongino i put a picture up on Instagram. Also on Twitter, I'm at D. Bongino as well. Same thing. First initial, last name.

I put up a picture, and it's a sweet-looking ride. So I really got a great deal. So thanks to that. I dealt with this guy, Chip, up in Fort Pierce. Really nice dude. What color is it, Dan? It's white and black. Now, I'm not a big fan of white cars.

I have to be honest with you, especially with a Raptor. But with the badging and stuff, it's really cool looking. And it is Florida and it's about 147 degrees in the summer here, so white cars, you can actually touch them. I've had black cars my whole life. So thanks to everyone who asked. Thanks to my friend, who I feel like I know already, Peter, who emails

me a lot. Peter B., I won't use his last name, but he sent me a manifesto on buying a car from the dealer and all the people gave me the feedback on the raptor you know who you are thank you very much the border i think it was a border patrol guy who told me about some testing they did with it so i really appreciate it the deal is sunk all right getting to the news enough about me so uh mooch is out yesterday scaramucci and i'm bringing this up because i was in the dealership when it happened. And I'm like, I can't believe it.

I mean, Scaramucci, for those of you who missed the story, Anthony Scaramucci was the 10-day-old communication director at the White House who took the position and was let go yesterday. Was fired by the Trump administration as one of the first moves by the new incoming chief of staff, John Kelly, General John Kelly, who was the DHS director. Folks, if you're having a hard time following all this, I think the rest of the world is as well. John Kelly was a general in the Marine Corps. He was the head of DHS in the six months there, did an admirable job from what I'm hearing from friends at DHS. Even in the short time he was there, he was admired. He had done a decent job. We know, obviously, Trump likes him. Trump got rid of Reince Priebus, who was his chief of staff, replaced him with John Kelly from DHS. Kelly comes in after he had replaced the comms director with Scaramucci. Ten days later, one of his first moves, he gets rid of Scaramucci. And I think a lot of it had to do with the Ryan Lizza New Yorker interview

where Scaramucci went after Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon using some, let's say, colorful language. I'll be honest with you, and I don't say this to defend myself because I've been known to use colorful language as well. Yeah, for those of you who know the story, I really don't care about that at all, not even a little bit. I still, you know, cuss to this day. I probably shouldn't, but I do. I not even a little bit. I still cuss to this day. I probably shouldn't, but I do. I've tried to stop it. It's just

a New York thing. It's just kind of drilled into your head unfortunately. But it's not that. I think it was the going after Prevus and Bannon and thinking it was off the record that I think hurt him. I like Scaramucci. I wish they wouldn't have gotten rid of him. I think he had a good future there, but he's

gone. But unfortunately, there's not that much to say about this, except for one thing I wanted to bring up. I don't bring up topics on the show just to casually talk about them and waste your time. I worked in the White House for five years. I'm very familiar with how it works. I said yesterday it's a very small place. You would be stunned how tiny the West Wing is.

You can walk the entire West Wing, I kid you not, at a decent pace and easily, probably under five minutes. And if there's nobody in there and you were trying to run through it, you could probably run through it in about three minutes or less if you sprinted up the stairs and back. A couple stairwells, front, back. It's not a large place. It's not hard to figure out what's going on when you're there every day

or almost every day of your working week for five years. Folks, the problem they were having in the White House, and I blame some of it on the president. I mean, it is his White House, and I credit him for making some moves. But I don't blame it all on the president, because chaos, I remember the first days of the Obama administration, Joe, they were completely chaotic as well. And remember, according to the media, Barack Obama is the smartest human being to ever have graced the earth with his presence.

Yeah. The chaos was just as bad. So, I mean, you could say blame Trump because he's the president, fine, but I don't blame him in the sense that I think it was anything unusual. Does that make sense? Like, yes, he's the president. Of course, it's his company. He is now the president of the United States.

But I'm telling you, this happens to everyone. So, the John Kelly move is a good one, and's the president. Of course, it's his company. He is now the president of the United States. But I'm telling you, this happens to everyone. So the John Kelly move is a good one, and here's why. Access control to the president is everything in the White House. Everything. The demands on his time are unbelievable. The people that, when you're at this post in the White House as a Secret Service agent in front, you see firsthand right there, all of the, it's nonstop. In and out. In and out of the Oval Office showstop in and out in and out of the oval office show in out in out in out i mean it's scripted down to the minute sometimes yeah

you know you're talking you're talking too much someone knocks on the door hey uh mr so-and-so from whatever uh time to go and then someone else pops in if you don't control access to the white house and people who are friendly with the president people who know the president start popping in and out randomly and taking up the time. Folks, that can really throw a monkey wrench into the machinery of the White House. And I thought this morning as I'm thinking about discussing this, I'm like, how do I give an analogy to explain what it would be like? And I thought, okay, imagine being that I bought the Raptor yesterday.

You're the CEO of Ford. No question, Joe, a monster-sized company. Ford. No question, Joe, a monster-sized company. But again, a company, Joe, that pales in size to the size of the United States government. Sure. Pales. But Ford, one of the biggest companies in the world, one of the biggest companies in the history of the world, the Ford Motor Company. Now, if you're the CEO of Ford, and every five minutes, someone you know from the company, you came up from the ranks, you were on the assembly line together, whatever it may be, starts popping in and saying, hey, I got this idea.

I think we should change the blue oval to the green oval because I did a focus group test. The guy would never get anything done. The CEO, there has to be a decision making chain where someone decides at some point, hopefully multiple people, decisions that can be handled at a lower level and decisions that should make it through the sieve. When they make it through the sieve and they get into the bottom of the hourglass, those should be the only the most critical decisions that the president should make. When you have people walking in with things like, hey, man, we got a problem on assembly line six in the Beijing China factory. Is this a critical issue that's going to affect the company, company-wide? They can't.

This is important, Joe. That cannot be handled lower down the management chain. Right. And if it can, it should be because you're wasting the CEO's time. And unfortunately, I think in my humble opinion, having, and I'm not, folks, please, I'm not a, you know, I don't even promote my own stuff. I'm not trying to be Captain Important here. I was just a Secret Service agent. I'm not trying to pretend I was the Chief of Staff. I'm just telling you I was there. I saw it with my own eyes. I mean, that's indisputable. I'm not trying to pretend it's anything more than it was. But being there in the White House a lot for five years,

it's not hard to figure out the culture of what happens and how the work flows and how it's not, anybody can figure it. It's not like I have some special powers of deduction. And I'm telling you, if you don't control who comes in there

and who says what to the president and who proposes an idea to the president, and I don't think that was happening under Priebus, that's not a knock on him, but I think they were just out of their league a little bit you are gonna have chaos in the white house and i applaud trump for for i hope this i said to my wife yesterday joe and i'll move on i hope this is the end of the beginning and not the beginning of the end and i clearly confused my wife she's like what the hell are you talking about? The beginning has been a little bit chaotic. But just to rewind the tape a little

bit, as I said to you before, having experienced the White House transition, it's always chaotic. So, you know, let's be careful throwing extra blame on Trump, OK? He's in charge. You always get the blame. But I'm not going to heap any extra blame on him. Let's hope the beginning is over now. And now they've gotten they now they've got a different way of looking at it. They've got the horse blinders on. They got Kelly in there. They're going to control access. And going forward, we'll have a more orderly procedure for how decisions are going to be vetted in the White House. Make sense? Yes. All right. Cool, man. Okay. Another story I saw yesterday, which really, or today, excuse me, that really upset me.

I'm going to just bring this up quickly because I want to move on to Bernie Sanders because it's hysterical. I read this in the Wall Street Journal today. I put it in the show notes. It may be subscriber access. If not, you can read the first few paragraphs and it really sums it up. Those are free anyway. This story infuriated me. And I'll be honest with you. I hadn't seen this before.

Norway, Joe. So, there are a lot of NATO countries out there. And to be a member of NATO, you are obligated by the international agreements that make up NATO to spend 2% of your GDP on national defense. Right. You know, NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Article 5 of NATO dictates that if one country is attacked, then essentially all countries are attacked and that they are supposed to respond appropriately. So Article 5, the only time it was invoked was during 9-11, where countries came to our aid under NATO after, obviously, the terror attacks of 9-11. So that's the only time that was invoked, Article 5. Now, this is really upsetting.

A lot of these countries, as Trump has highlighted often, are not spending 2% of their GDP on defense, which essentially, Joe, is what we call in economics a free rider syndrome right now. Free rider, meaning they get the benefits of Article 5, meaning if those countries are attacked, we're supposed to respond appropriately, the United States. Yet, Joe, they're not spending the money on defense themselves to defend themselves. So they are, in fact, again, what we would call in economics a free rider. So Trump's been highlighting this. Now, that's bad enough, the free rider syndrome. Now, why am I bringing this up in terms of the story I read today? It's not just that some of these

countries like Norway are free riding in some respects by not paying for their own defense, Joe. They're actually boycotting U.S. companies that develop weapons. I was like, I read this. I'm like, let me read this twice to make sure this is right. Because I thought that can't possibly be true. Like you can't be that legislatively and policy wise backwards. Like that's insane. But you know, I was absolutely correct. I read the story.

It's in the Wall Street Journal. It's not in the Onion. Norway is not only not spending 2% of its money on GDP, Norway is also boycotting companies that produce nuclear weapons out of somewhat far-left socialist agenda. And by the way, why they acknowledge, Joe, that the United States' nuclear umbrella that defends countries like Norway, that that nuclear umbrella is beneficial to their very existence to defend against attacks from a potential adversary like Russia. I mean, this is insane. I saw that story today. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And just to be clear, this isn't a small amount of money.

Right. The Norway government pension fund is an enormous, we're talking about billions upon billions of dollars. They are divesting from U.S. weapons manufacturers because, I don't know, Joe, peace, love, and happiness. We're going to sit around and roast s'mores. That's just a really crazy story I wanted you to hear about because you probably won't hear about it in a lot of media outlets. But it's frustrating.

And, you know, I applaud Trump for calling attention to the NATO problem with the spending of the money on defense. But someone should bring this up as well on a national platform. Like, you're boycotting United States businesses that produce the weapons that keep your country safe? Come on. Come on, guys. Silly Vikings. Oh, dude. I got to tell you something off the air, by the way. Remind me. Am I in trouble? No, no,

not at all. I couldn't believe it. Someone sent me something yesterday on Facebook. I was totally blown away. All right. Getting to this single-payer story, which is outrageous. And the reason I'm bringing up the single-payer and Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders appearance on State of the Union with Jake Tapper is obviously because of the Obamacare repeal failure. It's in the news now and it's become a big issue. And thanks for all the feedback on yesterday's show. People really seem to enjoy it based on the email I got. I was where I discussed Obamacare and the subsidies. I got where I discussed Obamacare and the subsidies. But Bernie Sanders, the Democratic socialist from a senator from Vermont, is doubling down on this push for single payer Medicare for all, which is really single payer type health care. Now, Joe, there's a model for that now that's failing in front of our very eyes that has been conveniently left out of the majority

of mainstream media coverage. They touch on it and they move on. And that model is Venezuela, which is in absolute chaos right now. And sadly, tragically, it may be looking at a potential civil war. Now, Venezuela is run by Maduro right now, was run by Chavez. It has taken a turn towards socialism. Again, socialism fails everywhere it's tried. But as I've warned you repeatedly on this show, socialism, so you understand what it is, because your liberal friends have no idea what it is i assure you they'll pretend they know what it is but they really don't is the government control of the means of production

and the government control the economy that is what socialism is there is no such thing as democratic socialism okay there's big government nanny states yes that's what a lot of uh you know scandinavian countries are but they are not socialist countries in the respect that the government takes over private industry and runs it. That's what happened in Venezuela when they confiscated the supermarkets, the oil industry. So Venezuela took a turn towards real socialism. Most liberals don't know what that is. Now, as I've warned you repeatedly in the past, socialism, it can't work because it won't work. When the government takes control of a private business, there's no incentive for that private business to continue to produce their product because they don't work for themselves, Joe.

They work for the government at that point. You're not even claiming your own property. You're taking all the risk with your money and you're turning over the rewards to the government. So the Venezuelan economy is collapsing. And after it collapses, what do you have to do to get people to produce things that the country's going to need? Well, the country's going to need food. The country's going to need medicine. The country's going to need energy, cars. Well, if those companies are owned by the government, there's no incentive to produce those products because you turn your profits over to the government. Those companies typically go out

of business. Now, to prevent them from going out of business, the socialists do what socialists always do, Joe. They get the jackbooted thugs out with the guns and the government force, and they stick them at the door, and they force people to do stuff, what we would call indentured servitude. That's the joke of the Soviet Union is we pretended to work, and they pretended to pay us. So Venezuela is collapsing right now.

They can't feed themselves. There's mass starvation going on right now. People are eating pigeons. There's riots in the streets. So in order to respond to the riots in the street, instead of doing something unique for a socialist, like saying, hey, maybe we should go back to this free market idea when our people could actually eat, Joe, Maduro doubled down on force, which is what they always do. And he instituted an election or he he called for an election where they were going to elect an alternate assembly so it's the equivalent of of say you know barack obama or trump calling an election tomorrow for another congress like the congress we have now and in 435 more members so that's what he did now the election was boycotted by most of venezuela

but of course the referendum won because he's a socialist and you know election was boycotted by most of Venezuela, but of course, the referendum won because he's a socialist, and it was boycotted by people who had no interest in this at all. So now there's riots in the streets because these alternate assembly members are going to take their positions, and they are going to basically throw out the assembly members that were actually elected. Now, folks, this is the natural course of socialism every time. When you allow the government to take control of anything, the only way for the government to continue the production of that item is through the use of force to force people to produce the item because there is no incentive for revenue making or profit in there. reality of the real world, if you're willing to live in the real world, is that profits and revenue are the incentive that incentivize people to take risk with their own money to produce products for Joe civilian. I know that's hard for liberals to understand, but that's how the real world works, not the stupid, ridiculous world you live in, okay? So what's happening in Venezuela right now

is just a natural conduit. This is what happens every single time the government takes over an economy. Now, I bring that up because Bernie Sanders is a socialist. He's a devout socialist. He has in the past praised socialists. He has praised communists. Bernie Sanders is a hypocrite. Bernie Sanders makes money himself, a significant amount of money. I believe he's purchased three homes.

I believe he owes two now. Bernie Sanders' wife is under investigation currently uh for some very serious allegations under federal investigation bernie sanders is a total fraud he is a class warrior who lives a rich lifestyle who rails against the rich which makes him a hypocrite by uh by definite by by definition there's no way around that now sanders was on state of the union now this is this is hysterical there's so much to dig out in this appearance. Now, it was six minutes long, and to be fair to Sanders, we had to edit this. Now, Joe did not edit any of the—we allowed him to complete a thought. Right.

But the appearance is six minutes long, and you can't play a six-minute sound clip on a talk radio show. So I want to be fair to him. I did cut some of it off, but I will put the link to the appearance, the entire link up at the show notes. But I promise you where we cut it off really summed up the idea he was trying to make. We're not trying to make him look worse than he really is. Actually, with Bernie Sanders, that's, frankly, Joe, very hard to do. Well, there's no editorializing with editing right here is what you're trying to say.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. We just cut the sentence off. But I just want to be fair to him because you're but oh well he said more he said more but he never contradicts where we stopped it all right so this is his appearance i get that first clip ready uh jake tapper opens up here because bernie sanders wants us to move to single payer government control of health care and jake tapper asked him a couple questions about this and it's very interesting what he says. And we'll break this down after after the clip is over. Play that cut.

I want to get into single I want to get into single payer. Just a quick note, the 32 million figure that the senator is referring to is from a congressional budget office study of what happens if there was full repeal of Obamacare with no replacement. Some of those, of course, are people voluntarily getting off health care because there's no more punishment. But let's talk about single payer because it was attempted in your home state of Vermont and it didn't work because they couldn't get the funding because it would be too expensive, the Democratic governor said. And then recently it was it failed in California as well. Democrats, again, not able to come up with a way to pay for it. These are cobalt blue states, Vermont and California, where people wanted single payer and there were problems because it would cost too much. How do you make it national if you can't even get it in Vermont?

Well, it's not it. No, no, no, no, no. No, let's take let's be let's be careful about this. All right. A single payer health care system, in my view, and according to studies that I have seen, would save the average family significant sums of money. And what Republicans sometimes do is confuse the issue. And they say, well, you're going to pay more in taxes. What they forget to tell you is that if you were a family of four now paying $15,000 or $20,000 a year in private health insurance, you're not going to be paying that at all.

What? You know, Joe and I, before he plays the cuts for me, even though I send them over just to make sure we're stopping at the right point. Now, again, he goes on to talk a little more, but he never refutes what he just said. Folks, I cut it at that point specifically because I wanted to leave you with that last what he just said. Folks, I cut it at that point specifically because I wanted to leave you with that last line he just said, because think about the insanity of Bernie Sanders position.

I took a few notes on a couple of things he said, but it's the last sentence that should really puzzle you. Jake says to him, Jake Tapper, accurately so. He says, listen, single payer was tried in the states. Matter of fact, it was tried in your state in Vermont. And it was also tried in California where you had overwhelming Democrat majorities. And there was nothing was they weren't passed because there was no money. Now, I've covered these in depth. It was going to bankrupt the state of Vermont by historic numbers.

And the California numbers are absurd, too. It's completely unaffordable. He, Joey, completely ignores that. Yep. He ignores that, and he says a couple things. Jake says, well, it's going to cost too much. And he goes, well, Jake, let's be careful here. Okay, well, let's be careful, Bernie.

He goes on to say what the Republicans are not telling you is that the average family is paying about $15,000 to $20,000 per year per insurance. And then he says those costs are just going to go away. So let me get this straight. Bernie Sanders' position is that in a, it's not a free market system now, but a relatively almost free market system in the United States, there's a lot of government interference. American families, due to Obamacare

and all these other government infiltrations in the system, are playing an inflated amount now. He's saying 15 to 20K a year. Bernie's saying if you institute single-payer and you make it free for everyone, those costs disappear. Folks, I'm serious. Does that make any sense to you?

So there's a product that, forget healthcare for a second, because that confuses people. Let's say Bernie Sanders was talking about free Corvettes for everyone. All right. So Jake would say to him, if it was the same argument, because a product and a service, folks, they all obey the rules of economics. There's no escaping the rules of economics. Whether you're purchasing water or healthcare, the products and

services may be different, but the rules of economics don't change. There's a market clearing price, there's supply and there's demand, and eventually those curves are going to intersect, right? So let's say Jake had said to him, hey, listen, you know, Corvettes are, you know, really expensive right now. So Bernie, what's your plan for a single payer program where the government's going to buy everybody a Corvette? Well, Jake, the average Corvette right now costs about $60,000 in the market. And the nice part about this, and Republicans, what they're not telling you is, well, if we take over a single-payer system where the government buys everybody Corvettes, no one's going to have to pay that $60,000 for the Corvette anymore.

How? Folks, I'm just asking. You know I love economics. And yesterday was very wonky, and we do wonky shows. But today, I'm just going to ask you big umbrella questions. How is that did the workers at gm that produce corvettes i think they produce in bowling green kentucky all volunteer to work for free did the supplier of the steel and aluminum that goes into the car they they mined it for free i mean did the electronics producers that produce the electronics

that go into the navigation the temperature control system are they all working for free are the rare earth mineral minerals that go into producing some of the fancy electronics are they being mined for free are the tire companies are the workers they're working for free where a very serious question where do you think the costs go no i i'm not being facetious or silly but where do you think the costs go so bernie says the 15 to 20 000 a year americans are paying now for for uh for insurance will be wiped out when we institute single payer how is that how does that happen who pays oh the government pays well okay where does the government get its money oh well obviously from the people okay so i i i heard that and i'm like this can't be

because he really think people are this dumb and the answer is yes he does he really thinks you're this stupid that was the first cut and that that was an easy one the second one's a little more complicated because i have i had to take a few notes beforehand on it where he brings up a couple more, a little more nuanced points, which are all ridiculous. But we'll get to that after we play this cut. So this is the second part of this, of Bernie Sanders, this absolute epic fail of an interview with Jake Tapper.

Play cut two. By the way, in California, the debate is not over. It passed, I think, the Senate. It's now gone to the House, and that debate will continue. Look, taking on the insurance companies and the drug companies, taking on Wall Street, taking on a lot of very powerful forces that make billions of dollars a year from the current health care system is not going to be easy. And it's not going to take place until millions of people get involved in their struggle and appreciate the fact that whether you're rich

or whether you're poor, healthcare is a right. The idea that the Republicans wanted to throw 32 million people off of health insurance, cut Medicaid by $800 billion, raise premiums for older workers workers defund planned parented make it almost impossible for people to have a pre-existing what pre-existing conditions get the health care they need that is abominable that is moving in exactly the wrong direction so we need a serious discussion about a serious issue and I believe at the end of the day the American people will conclude that Medicare for Medicare is working now for people 65 or older. Let's expand it to everyone.

All right. Again. There's nothing in there that has any substance at all. I mean, if you had if you hired a company, Joe, to put together a Democrat and liberal focus group. And in that focus group, you said, listen, let's just say stuff that's not not factually correct but we think we'll touch an emotional nerve with the american electorate to get democrats elected yeah you would say the things bernie just said although they're devoid of substance or or facts or data there's nothing to back it up at all he's i don't know if he's just making this up if he's just too dumb to realize what he's saying is not true but let's break down what he said the first part he gave he used the rights line again, that healthcare is a right.

I'm not going to get too into this, but I just want to reiterate the point that when you declare something a right, that is rather simple to do. The problem is higher order thinking requires you to understand that when you declare something a right, you also declare an obligation for someone else. So if you're going to make healthcare right, that means someone else is obligated to provide it to you for free. So unless you're happy with indentured servitude, I strongly suggest you support a government of negative rights that tells the government what it can't force people to do, rather than a government of so-called positive rights,

which forces people to provide things to other people for free, even if they don't want to. Now, that may sound good to you because you're a liberal nutbag and you don't care that doctors would be forced into basically forced servitude by the government. But there's a better way to get products to the poor and the needy rather than forcing people at the end of a government monopoly on forced barrel of a gun to do things. Declaring things are right is a simple way for liberals to get out of an argument. A right is an obligation. That's what a right is a simple way for liberals to get out of an argument okay a right is an obligation that's what a right is an individual right is an obligation of the government not to infringe on that right a right that the government imposes on people to collect the product from someone else like medical service is an obligation on that doctor to provide it for free if necessary

big difference that's an easy way out for liberals all the time who will mislead you about what a right really is. Secondly, he says, he talks about the profiteering of drug companies. I find this fascinating because again, Sandersites are at it again. They're total hypocrites. They're just making this up. I just got to take a note here, so don't forget this. But the profiteering of drug companies, this is amazing. We talked about on yesterday's show and repeatedly over the course of the past few weeks, how folks, do you understand i i'm imploring you i'm begging you i'm i'm i i don't know any other any other way to frame this i'm asking you as liberals to be intellectually honest for a moment with us please so we can have a rational argument to fix the dreadful health care situation in the country there's no other way out of this You are either as a liberal really dumb if you

don't understand this or you're lying. Profiteering of drug companies, your Obamacare plan you're supporting, make no mistake, supports through cost-sharing payments, risk corridor payments, and risk adjustment payments, absolutely takes money from American taxpayers, both poor, middle class, and wealthy, and transfers it to the very same drug companies and health care companies you're decrying. That is not open for dispute. That's not it's it's just that's a fact. If you have a problem with that fact, then you have a problem with reality.

You're living in, you know, the Justice League world, the Marvel universe. You're not living in the real world. In the real world, that is what Obamacare does. Again, you either don't understand it and that's your fault for being ignorant and spouting off at the mouth when you don't know anything. Or number two, you do know that there are drug company and pharmaceutical and healthcare company payoffs from the taxpayer and bailouts built into Obamacare and you're just lying to people. So Bernie saying this while supporting Obamacare makes him a total hypocrite. And I can't understand why reasonable people don't call him out.

You know, Joe, at least the conservative movement is intellectually honest. I can't say this enough. The conservative movement has called out President Trump. It's called out President Bush. It's called out Cruz and everyone else when they think that they've strayed from the path. If they have. We do it all the time. Liberals will lockstep support something, even though it makes liars, manipulators and propagandizers out of them. They don't care. How do you make the case, Joseph?

How Bernie Sanders, a respected respected at least amongst liberals democrat senator who's a devout socialist how do you make the case that you're you're you're campaigning against profiteering by drug companies as you are taking money from the taxpayer through known programs democrats supported and giving them to the same companies it it it's it's so baffling i saw the clip and i listened to it. I'm like, this is just hard to believe. Now, another thing. This is funny. This is the Democrats do this all the time.

It's called the British method of debate where you say what your opponent's going to say first. So when he says it, the audience is already prepared. But it's really you. So Democrats do this all the time. And Bernie flipped the script and the Republicans are this one. He goes, well, the Republicans are constantly conflating health insurance with health care. No, folks, that's what the Democrats do. That's what the Democrats are doing. Bernie does it throughout the entire time because we're one of the only civilized countries in the world that doesn't guarantee health care.

That is absolutely incorrect. We don't guarantee health insurance. Do you understand, Joe, how he just did that? Yeah. He says Republicans conflate health insurance with health care. But it's Bernie that's doing that. When he says something like this, which he said in that interview, he says, well, you know, Republicans don't want to guarantee people health care.

We're one of the only civilized countries that doesn't do so. Folks, that is a lie. That is not true. Either Bernie's ignorant or he's lying to you. You cannot be turned away from an emergency room. That may not be the most convenient thing for you in the world. That may not be the quickest. But the fact of the matter is in the richest country in the world, in the finest outfitted emergency rooms anywhere on earth, believe me, I've traveled a lot in my prior job. I've seen a lot of emergency rooms. Some of them are pretty damn scary.

You can never be turned away in an emergency room legally. Now, Joe, in a reasonable argument with reasonable people, which liberals aren't, and Bernie's beyond, Bernie's just a clown, a total lying clown, and a hypocrite too, wealthy hypocrite who decries wealth. lying clown and a hypocrite too, wealthy hypocrite who decries wealth. How do you make the case, Joe, that anyone in the United States can walk into an emergency room at any time and cannot be turned away and is guaranteed access to care? How do you say to yourself then that we're one of the only civilized countries on earth that doesn't guarantee access to care? You'll get care. It may not be the care you want, Joe. You may want it to go to your local doctor but that's not true you're not guaranteed health insurance bernie's doing that he's conflating health insurance with health care and by doing it he's just lying he's making it up but democrats

don't care again they just make stuff up i'm not suggesting again that the emergency room is the solution it's not matter of fact it's a disastrous way to provide health care disastrous but i am interested in facts and suggesting where a country that doesn't guarantee health care is an outright falsification of reality it's not it's simply not true now i find that interesting because if your problems with that and you know they're that again the emergency room is a terrible way to provide care because if your problems with that, and again, the emergency room is a terrible way to provide care. But if your problem with that is, well, people have to go and they have to wait, I find that awfully odd that if your liberal argument is that, and it should be a conservative one

too, well, that's not a way to provide healthcare. People go in there with colds and they clog up the emergency room and people who are really sick can't get in and it extends the time for people who can be seen and people could die in the emergency room waiting i find that interesting though that that's your beef and the problem with single-payer countries that is economically irrefutable i mean liberals will argue anything joe but i'm talking about reasonable people now is that single-payer countries now their biggest problem joe is rationing by time you have to get on a waiting list to see a doctor in most single-payer countries because it's quote free so everybody takes it with no control no concern for the cost because they've already paid through their tax

dollars so i find it interesting that your big complaint is oh people go into the emergency room and it's not the most ideal way to get care which it isn't again but that oversees the most ideal way to get care, which it isn't, again, but that overseas, the most unideal way to get care is to go on a waiting list to get care. By the time you get to see a doctor, you're already better, most of the time. You see what I'm saying, Joe? Your beef is like the ER isn't great because people have to wait for care, but you're suggesting we follow a model overseas where people wait for care, sometimes until they're dead. Now, there's an interesting piece I read a while ago with the Daily Mail where they quoted

a statistic that 5% of doctors in the United Kingdom know patients who have died waiting for care. Think about that. There's 100 doctors. Five of them know a patient who's actually died waiting for care. I mean, that doesn't bother you at all. He's just making this stuff up. And it's really infuriating.

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By the way, Joe, do you know the number one asylum seekers to the United States for refugees country-wise are from Venezuela? I did not know that, no. Yeah, I didn't know that. I read that yesterday in the Wall Street Journal. So by the way, for all you socialists out there and budding college socialists listening to my program on recommendation from your conservative college friends, if socialism is so great, how is it that the number one request for asylum to the United States are from a socialist country, Venezuela, not even from Syria, Syria, which is collapsing in a war zone. There are more people trying to flee Venezuela for the United States. Just a thought. I'm just wondering why these liberals aren't running down to Venezuela. Joe, you'd think they'd be lining up to get in because they love socialism so much. But they're frauds.

They're fakes. They just make it up. Hey, I saw a story today from McClatchy, which I'll put in the show notes, which should trouble every Republican out there. Be very, very careful about what's coming up in these midterms. I've warned about this. Yes, we've done well in the specials. I don't want to be Captain Apocalyptic. That's unnecessary. But be cautious. The story of McClatchy about a couple

of seats that are starting to flip in state races, Joe, not federal races, but in state races and districts won some of them pretty handily by Donald Trump. That's not a good sign. The seats are in New Hampshire, Oklahoma, which is blood red. My sister lives out there in Oklahoma. New York, but Trump District's in New York. Delaware, state Senate seats. There's been an overperformance by Democrat voters in their turnout rates. So I'm just saying, be careful. I don't want to be apocalyptic about it.

We've done well in the specials, but there has been an overperformance of Democrats. Any legislator or people supporting legislators listening to the show, you know, in some limited circle show, we haven't said this in a while, we would call that a clue. We haven't said that in a long time. That's a clue that there may be something going on. And one of my friends on an email I saw from him, he's right. His theory is accurate, that Democrats are voting for anybody but the Republican right now because they're really upset. Even if that Republican's a total rhino and may subscribe to some of the values. But Republicans are angry at the Republican Party for not getting anything

done, so they're just not showing up. So when you have one side angry and one side apathetic, of course they're going to win. So be very careful. This should be a warning sign. I'll put the story in there, and you can read it yourself. I don't want to be overdramatic about it, but it's something to just keep in the back of your head for these midterm elections. All right, folks, thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it, and I will see you all tomorrow. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show. Get more of Dan online anytime at conservativereview.com.

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