The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 523 The NY Times Humiliates Itself Again!
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Hey, man, I'm doing well. Yeah, I know. Good. I know. Well, I do know because I spoke to you before we got on the air. But yeah, another crazy news day. This whole thing with North
Korea is just freaking me out a little bit. And I don't mean that in a panicky kind of way.
I just mean that the North Koreans, as I've said repeatedly on the show over the last few days,
I think it's assumed by some that we're dealing with a semi-rational actor in this short fat kid, Kim Jong-un.
You know, as if this were a replay of the Cuban Missile Crisis show, where as crazy as Khrushchev was,
and Peggy Noonan points this out
in the Wall Street Journal today,
at least I think Khrushchev understood,
and I think that's clear as history would tell,
that engaging in a continued action
against the United States
by putting missiles on Cuban soil
was going to result in mutually assured destruction.
We would destroy each other via nuclear war.
I think that's pretty crystal clear.
I'm not sure the short fat kid gets that. So, you know, a couple of things I wanted to bring
up on this, and I got a couple other interesting stories I wanted to bring up too. This universal
basic income thing keeps creeping up on me as well. All right. Today's show brought to you by
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A couple of quick points on the North Korean thing, and I'm going to move on.
First, folks, they have a network of underground tunnels in North Korea, which I was privy
to some information.
I'm not going to say from who or where because
they didn't give me permission. But I mean, this isn't a big secret out there. But, you know,
in order to make sure that the North Korean situation is rectified, there's probably going
to have to be some type of a ground-based battle. It can't all be done from the air and from drones.
It's just not possible over that kind of landmass and terrain. I mean, this is a friend of mine was
bringing this point up the other day. You know. With their network of underground tunnels, we're looking at massive casualties if
we were to get involved in this. I mean, this is the kind of thing I know Americans and especially
the listeners of my show are very cautious about the use of military power. But just something to
keep in mind that this is not going to be some just quick mop-up operation like we had in Gulf
War I where our military power was just overwhelming.
And although we obviously suffered casualties, and I applaud the heroes involved in that effort,
this is probably going to be a far different endeavor. The North Korean military, I think,
is much stronger, obviously, with their nuclear capabilities now. It presents another dangerous situation. Also, what all the artillery pointed at Seoul right now,
you're looking at potentially wiping out Seoul
if they were to unleash an artillery barrage against Seoul.
I've been to Seoul and the DMZ.
Folks, it's not far.
I mean, it's a quick car ride to the DMZ from Seoul.
One more quick thing about this.
The Chinese are, from what I've been reading,
the coverage of the incident, are more afraid of THAAD, that terminal high altitude missile defense system we have. They're afraid of the radar we're intending to deploy on a larger scale in South Korea because they think the radar is going to peek into Chinese territory. It's a very powerful radar.
I'm not sure the Chinese are as worried about the North Koreans as they are about that. And I think a number of other analysts would say the same thing.
Not that they're not worried about, you know, millions of North Koreans pouring across the border there into China.
But they're also worried about the American presence over there.
So I think we can use that that that system is as a pretty, pretty, pretty strong hammer in our negotiations because they fear it.
pretty strong hammer in our negotiations because they fear it. Maybe we should deploy it on a mass scale and force them to respond and do something different about the in the way they're handling
the North Koreans, coal and their their trade. One more quick thing on this. I want to throw
this in there. The Democrat response to this has been ridiculous. OK, you know, Trump saying
the North Koreans are going to experience fire and fury. The Democrats are more concerned about Trump's rhetoric than they are about the North Koreans,
which one speaks to the futility and the absolute absurdity of being a Democrat these days,
that they don't even care that a hostile power is threatening the United States and the United States territories over in Guam
and 6,000 military personnel we have over there.
They don't care about that, Joe.
and 6,000 military personnel we have over there.
They don't care about that, Joe.
They care about Trump's comments about fire and fury being brought down on the North Koreans if they continue and progress along this route they're going now.
I mean, are you guys serious?
Are you serious?
You know, I thought under times of national crisis,
it was more important to put aside partisanship for a moment.
Apparently, it's not.
But a second point i wanted to make on
this is the democrats are loons but sometimes having a president of the white house who joe
this may sound a little crazy but play play for a moment here play the game here certainly don't
you think you ever have that you know when you were growing up right i remember this and when i
grew up in glendale there was this kid i'm not going to say his name but he was he was kind of
crazy like he just would fight anybody, anytime.
I don't think he ever won a fight.
Regular listeners to the show, I may have mentioned his name before,
but he would never win.
But it was always going to be ugly because he was really just crazy.
He had no fear of fighting at all.
All men and women, most of them, have an inherent fear of
physical confrontation because it's painful.
No matter if you win, you're still going to get
punched. You may even get bit.
You may get kicked. Who knows?
This kid didn't have that fear.
He would lose the fights all the time. It wound up happening over time.
He was a small kid, too.
I used to date his sister.
He did.
He was just nuts. Me and him got into scraps a couple yeah, did. And he was just nuts.
I mean, I know, because me and him got into scraps a couple times, too.
Like, he just was crazy.
He would fight everybody all the time.
After, he was really small.
Over time, people just stopped messing with this kid,
even though they knew they'd win, because they knew, you know,
they knew he was going to fight back.
Having a guy in the White House like Trump,
who some people on foreign soil,
I think we can both agree, Joe, question his sanity. They just do. I don't, but they do. You know, that may not be the worst
thing. Right. You know, I know this sounds crazy, no pun intended, but it may not be the worst
thing. I mean, people generally knew Obama was very rational and reasonable, but they also knew
he wouldn't do anything. And I'm not an interventionist.
I'm not saying, I just told you there's a severe penalty for a ground war in North Korea,
which really deeply concerns me.
You know, I lost an uncle in Vietnam.
I don't talk about any of this lightly.
But I want to be crystal clear on this as well, that there's also, although there's
going to be a massive penalty for a ground war if it results in that, God forbid, Joe,
there's also a penalty for inaction and there's also a penalty for a person like obama who sits
out there and says things and it never follows through remember the syrian red line oh they're
syrian jewish chemical weapons that's going to be a red line all three of them yeah yeah exactly
nothing happened nothing happened zero happened so there's a penalty for that as well. Sometimes it doesn't hurt when you have a president in the White House willing to speak off the cuff in inflammatory terms.
Maybe it makes them question his sanity and maybe that's a good thing.
I just wanted to bring that up because the Democrats response to this entire thing has been completely unhinged.
All right. So it's some current events. The New York Times, by the way i put this in the teaser on the facebook live for you uh watch all you watching on facebook live
by the way if you're watching on facebook live you can subscribe to the podcast on itunes sound
cloud and iheart radio really appreciate it um the new york times has just been humiliated again
did you see this story joe this cracks me up yeah i did and i think i know which one you're talking
about but go right ahead so the the New York Times wrote this story.
I mean, it's not even credible.
Forget about lining a birdcage.
It's not even worth buying to line the birdcage anymore
because as the bird craps at the bottom of the birdcage,
you'll be forced to clean it up.
It's an improvement.
And at some point, yeah, you may run across the words in the New York Times,
and they're so ridiculous, I don't even want to see it.
I don't even want it in my presence.
Now, unfortunately, I have to read this crap, right?
The mic.
Everybody's doing the mic on the, yeah, we get it.
The mic is loud.
By the way, for those of you watching on Facebook Live, the mic is different.
It's not the same mic I use for the podcast.
So sorry if it sounds a little loud, but I yell a lot because of the can.
So my apologies.
It'll be better soon.
Yeah, Joe's coming down to fix that up.
But the New York Times put out a story.
And what happened, Joe, is there was a national climate assessment report put out by scientists within the government that showed that climate change was going to be, you know, of course, the world was going to collapse.
The sun's going to melt us and we're all going to be dead.
I mean, I'm being hyperbolic.
People will die.
People will die. Again, right?
That's our expression, right? People will die. Every time, that's the assessment of these climate
folks. So the New York Times put out a story. This is hysterical. And they were really concerned
that the data won't be made public and the Trump administration is going to suppress this data in
this National Climate Assessment Report. Okay. All right. it seems to me to be a bit editorializing writing about something that
hasn't yet happened you know we're afraid they're going to suppress this report that hasn't yet been
suppressed i i don't uh okay fine here's the problem joe a non-profit already published a
report in january it's been out there forever so let me get this straight oh oh so the report in January. It's been out there forever. So let me get this straight. Oh, oh.
So the report was so suppressed,
to use their term,
it was going to be suppressed,
that you could go online and read it since January.
I mean, the Times has just become,
you know, and I know we're laughing,
we're being sarcastic.
Joe and I love to beat up the Times
and the Washington Compost.
We get it.
But it really is sad.
You know's it makes
sense and by the way thank you oh you turn your computer laptop tablet volume down yes we've tried
it's not working please stop if you don't want to listen don't listen goodbye sorry trying to put it
out there so what you can turn your volume down too we had a gain issue on the uh on the ipad but
joey's gonna help us out and we're gonna work that out but it is sad watching the death of
american journalism you know i mean we really need a free and fair press now a free press is
an obvious one i don't suggest and i never would any government response that we should you know
no matter how bad i want to be clear on this, no matter how bad the press gets, and they're bad right now, the New York Times and the Post, there's never, ever an appropriate, I don't think, government response to this.
I don't feel that way.
Free speech, if we're going to be true advocates for free speech and a free press, then that free press should include horrible free press as well.
And you should do what I've suggested and what I do myself when I'm on my own time and not doing research for work here is just don't click on their stuff.
Don't see their movies. Don't read their media stuff. But a government intervention in this is
just the wrong idea. I just want to be clear on that. And the only reason I bring this up is I
saw a poll recently that showed that some Republicans support government mandates and
government diktats on limitations of a free
press. And I thought, wow, that's really disturbing. For as crappy as the slimes is,
and it's garbage, and they're ruining their reputation, and they're ruining American
journalism, there is no real government response. Now, government secrets are different. If you're
going to publish the sensitive locations of nuclear weapons that we put on foreign soil,
I mean, obviously, I'm making that up, but you get my point. we put on foreign soil. I mean,
I'm obviously I'm making that up,
but you get my point.
That's a different story.
I think endangering the United States,
that's a whole different story.
But,
and in general,
crappy journalism should,
the market should decide.
All right.
A couple more stories I saw,
which I thought were really interesting.
I got to turn back.
That was one of yesterday's that I,
that I missed.
So a guy named Dan Nides, N-I-D-E-S-S, I may be saying his name wrong, but he wrote an op-ed in
the Wall Street Journal today, which is fascinating. It's about this universal basic income.
And every time I mention this, I get a ton of listener feedback. It's a story and a topic,
I should say, that fascinates me. And it's always in the news these days because Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg and a lot of technology people who have influence over the culture, Zuckerberg, Joe from Facebook, and Musk from Tesla, have suggested that technology is going to make human labor more and more relevant in the future as robotics and automation take over and eliminate a lot of jobs
now we again we've done whole shows on this so i don't want to redo and and and reimagine new
arguments here but a quick point i want to make is that this has been said over and over and over
again matter of fact the uh word sabotage comes from a technological development that enabled uh people who made these sabo uh
which were these these shoes these like wooden shoes and they they they thought oh my god all
these shoemakers are going to be out of business so they would destroy the machine so that's where
the term sabotage actually comes from i did not know that yeah oh yeah it's just a interesting
note there but this has been going on forever atmsMs are going to destroy bank jobs, all this stuff.
What it actually does, technology, and I think Zuckerberg and Elon Musk are wrong on this,
is technology enables people and frees up people and their intellectual capabilities
and their labor to do other things.
Now, is it transition smooth?
Never.
It's not, Joe.
I mean, let's be honest.
You and I have very specific skill sets.
I was a police officer. I owned a mixed martial arts business. I mean, let's be honest. You and I have very specific skill sets. I was a police officer.
I owned a mixed martial arts business.
I was a secret service agent.
Now we do content production for conservative media.
We have a skill set.
But we can both agree, Joe, our skill set is limited, right?
Yeah.
If there was an advent in nuclear energy technology tomorrow,
do you think either you or I could walk into a nuclear power plant and go,
we're here.
We're here, fellas.
We're ready.
We're ready.
Okay.
Where do I hit the switch?
Hey, Joe, don't hit that red button.
What, this one?
Right?
I mean, I'm not...
Now, I know Joe's a very smart guy
because he's going to come down here
and work on all our sound and studio stuff tomorrow.
But what I do know about Joe
is the transition would not be smooth.
It would take a significant retraining period before Joe could operate a nuclear reactor.
He's smart enough, but it would take a while, okay?
I get it.
I get it that there's always going to be some interruptions with technology.
What I find really disturbing about this universal basic income story, this idea that the government
should pay people to not work because they're not going to have jobs because of technology,
to not work because they're not going to have jobs because of technology is it it's very short-sighted and it's very it's almost it patronizes people you know like oh like joe
if you lost your job tomorrow let's say terrestrial radio and podcasting went the way of the dinosaur
that you would just sit around all day and look for a government handout no i wouldn't you would
find something else to do i mean even in the time jo time Joe's been with WCBM over terrestrial radio, technology's changed.
I mean, for those of you who aren't familiar with the radio industry, we brought this up last week.
When Joe first started, pretty much everything was done by ISDN, right, Joe?
That's how the radio worked, over distance.
ISDN, which is that copper or is that old school copper?
I don't even know what it is.
Yeah, I mean, it was ISDN line.
Now, when I do, when I fill in for Mark Levin and Sean Hannity,
I don't use ISDN.
I used to.
I go over a Comrex box, which is a digital codec device
that transmits over the internet.
I mean, you just learn and you evolve over time.
So technology doesn't mean that you're going to lose jobs.
It just means that the technology evolves.
People evolve with it. training evolves with it.
And it's not something to fear.
And it bothers me that they do.
But it eliminates and it patronizes human beings.
And here's a quick example that Nadez brings up in this piece in the Wall Street Journal,
which I experienced firsthand when I was a Secret Service agent, right?
He brings up the example of Saudi Arabia.
And this is a brilliant example I
had not considered in my prior coverage of the universal basic income.
Saudi Arabia is a country now where oil wealth, obviously, I mean, the kingdom has just insane
amounts of oil wealth, right? Their oil wealth is used to subsidize a form of universal basic
income now where people are paid, Joe, to essentially not work from the revenues the government makes from the oil wealth.
Now, why they do that is a completely different situation from the socialists and the liberal.
It's more to kind of pacify the population, whereas liberals want a universal basic income as a way to buy off votes.
Regardless, the results will be the same.
I saw this firsthand in Kuwait when I was over in Kuwait as a Secret Service agent.
They are having a problem now, Joe, as they try to make a transfer in Saudi Arabia
to a limited market economy.
I don't want to say a free market.
No one would mistake Saudi Arabia right now for being free.
But to a limited market economy, what's the problem? The problem is very simple. People have been paid for a very long time
to not work. So what happens is you're incentivized to not do anything, and it's very hard to break
that. It's very hard to get people to come back into the workforce and produce eight hours of
productivity a day, potential manual labor
at a minimum intellectual labor when they were getting paid to do the same thing and
sit at home and do whatever, play video games, cut their lawn.
It doesn't matter.
It's very difficult to do that and break that cycle.
Now, I saw this in Kuwait.
I remember when I was over there, Kuwait has a similar problem where Kuwaitis generally,
a lot of, not all of them, I'm
just saying a good portion of them, it's tough to get them to work.
And I remember I saw a lot of the large immigrant population in Kuwait and I was asking one
of the expats over there, I said, hey, what's the deal with this?
He says, yeah, the Kuwaitis have a tough time getting people to do construction and
things like that.
So they have to import immigration.
They have to import immigrants into the country to do the work because the Kuwaitis won't do it because they've become accustomed to not working.
And it was it was ubiquitous.
I saw this firsthand.
So I think one of the things universal basic income advocates have to understand is there's a psychological, sociological component to this that you can't ignore.
Why would you pacify people and make them basically wards of the state? You create what
Nadez calls, and he's absolutely right, Joe, you create a productive class versus an unproductive
class. And that's a very dangerous thing to do. You don't want a class of people who are seen as
the underlings while you have this productive class that gets all the benefits. It just doesn't
make any sense. All right. I just wanted to bring that up. I read that today. I'm pulling up another article I saw that I thought was fascinating, too.
But, you know, the universal basic income advocates, this is a problem with the left on a number of topics, not just this show, where they constantly ignore those second order effects.
Things sound nice, right?
Like, oh, people aren't going to have jobs.
So we're just going to pay them because robots will produce everything and we can tax the robots.
Oh, great. But they never consider the fact that there's a devastating
psychological component to this where people get used to not working over time. Not a good thing,
folks. All right, moving on. So the other day I discussed the piece by Phil Graham in the Wall
Street Journal. It was an opinion piece about the Reagan tax cuts. And the reason I keep bringing this up is not to relitigate the Reagan years, folks.
I mean, the Reagan years happened.
It's over.
It's great.
And economic conditions of the time were, many of them were unique to the time.
And we shouldn't do what Democrats do and constantly look to refabricate the past to
make it fit our current narrative.
But it is important to bring up some of the things that happened in the Reagan years,
because these arguments are being relitigated by the left and they're rewriting history.
Why?
The why always matters, Joseph.
The reason they're doing it now is because obviously the Trump administration,
along with the Republican Congress right now,
after the failure of Obamacare, trying to push tax cuts.
This is really important.
They're trying to push tax cuts right now. And I'm a little worried about the stock market right now after the failure of Obamacare trying to push tax cuts. This is really important. They're trying to push tax cuts right now. And I'm a little worried about the stock market right now.
I think we need to do something quick. They're trying to push tax cuts to generate economic
growth. So what are the Democrats doing and why are they relitigating the Reagan years?
Because Joe, you were alive during them, obviously. You're a little bit older than me. I was.
Most people alive today who are voting American adults remember the Reagan years as being pretty damn prosperous.
You bet.
You bet is right.
They also associate the Reagan years with tax cuts.
The Democrats, of course, who are obsessed with lying to you and recreating false narratives, want you to believe that the economic prosperity of the Reagan years, because they can't lie to you about it, Joe, because you lived through it.
They want you to believe that was economic prosperity of the Reagan years, because they can't lie to you about it, Joe, because you lived through it. They want you to believe that was due to something else.
So Phil Graham wrote a great piece and he said, hey, here's what happened in the Reagan years.
Here were the results of it. Here's what happened to government tax revenue. And here's how the economy grew. Well, it wasn't but a couple of days before the liberals went nuts and the letters to
the Wall Street Journal came flying in. So I read one of them today and i took a little screenshot on my phone because it's almost comical the response and this
is a a liberal i don't know his politics i don't need to but it's obviously a liberal trying again
to debunk the economic prosperity of the reagan years because he wants you to forget that what
happened actually happened so here's his letter back about the op-ed. And just to be clear, the op-ed said, Reagan tax cuts, good. Economic growth, good. That was it simply. Right? Really simple.
So the author says, citing the tax burden as the cause of the 1980 to 82 recession ignores the two
oil price increases and Volcker's massive interest rate increases to eliminate inflation.
Okay. This is kind of hysterical here because he's talking about Paul Volcker, massive interest rate increases to eliminate inflation. Okay, this is kind of hysterical here,
because he's talking about Paul Volcker,
who was the Fed chair at the time,
hiking interest rates to crush inflation.
So nobody's ignored.
Joe, have you not heard me talk about this
like 10,000 times on the podcast?
Yeah, at least.
No conservative who's advocating for Reagan-era policies now,
like Trump is trying to reinstitute, ignores Volcker's interest rate.
This is a straw man argument that this liberal is bringing up to lie to you, to try to propagandize you, to try to win an argument rather than talking about principles.
Inflation was bad.
There's no question about it.
We had double digit inflation in the 80s during the Carter years and during the early Reagan years.
about it we had double digit inflation in the 80s during the carter years and during the early reagan years but the hiking of interest rates to essentially dry up some of the money supply to
suck inflation out of the economy is a conservative sound money principle that's not a liberal
principle folks i can't be clear on this the irony of this is the liberal is ignoring the fact that
yes it is exactly our attention to the Volcker, the attention we pay to the
Volcker interest rate hikes that we cite for Reagan's economic success.
You see how they do the fliparoo?
He goes, oh, you guys are just ignoring.
No, we're not ignoring it.
We're saying that was part of it.
Liberals love easy money, folks.
They love easy Federal Reserve policies, and they love low interest rates, a topic I cover
on the show often.
Why do they love that?
Because remember, liberals love inflation, because inflation inflates the way value of
a dollar.
You may say, well, how does that benefit liberals?
It also inflates away the value of a dollar of government debt.
So liberals can spend money over and over and over again, take out massive
amounts of debt, and inflation devalues that debt over time. You know, Keynes brought this up in his
book where he said if the government wants to confiscate 25% of the economy, it has two ways
of doing it. It can either tax 25 cents on every dollar and take 25 cents of everybody's dollar,
or it can inject another 33 cents into the economy by printing money for every dollar out there.
And then never put it in the economy.
Just spend it itself.
It can print money and then use it.
Think about it.
If you had a dollar in the economy and you take 25 cents, you've taken 25%.
If you have $1.33 because you just printed 33 additional cents.
And then the government just spends it and doesn't circulate it right away.
It also spends roughly 25%.
So this was Keynes, who was, by the way,
the foundation of liberal economics now.
So liberals love inflation.
It allows them to spend more.
It allows them to spend more
without taking it directly out of people's pockets,
at least right away.
And it inflates, it destroys the value of the dollar,
but in addition, it destroys the value of a dollar of government debt.
So I find it hysterical that the liberals trying to, quote, you know, debunk the Reagan years, cite Volcker's interest rate increases, even though that was a conservative's push for that.
Okay, he goes on.
This is a foolish letter, but it's so worth debunking because if you're arguing with your liberal friends, they're going to bring up these stupid arguments too.
worth debunking because if you're arguing with your liberal friends, they're going to bring up these stupid arguments too. He says, attributing the economic growth in the late 80s to Reagan's
tax reductions ignores Reagan's $2 billion stimulus that tripled our national debt. This
is hysterical. Okay, let me get this straight. So now you're suggesting comically, I might add,
that Reagan was for government spending, which he wasn't. Yes, we ran up pretty heavy national
debts in the Reagan years, not
because of tax revenue. Tax revenue doubled, but because Reagan had a deal with a Democrat House
and Tip O'Neill, who insisted on levels of government spending in exchange for a lot of
these tax cuts. So don't blame Reagan for the fact that the government spent a lot of money. Yes,
he signed it. I'm not completely absolving him of blame for signing the budgets. But clearly, Joe, anyone who understands the history of that knows there
was a tradeoff. Now, let me be clear on this. He's suggesting that deficit spending or debts
under the Reagan years, government debt was responsible for our economic success.
Think about the stupidity of what he just said. So Obama, who racked up the most government debt of any president in United
States history by far, I mean, ran historic amounts of annual deficits, meaning every year
he set records, the smallest Obama deficit of any year of his presidency was roughly equivalent to
the largest of any of the Bush years. So that's bad. I'm not saying that because Bush ran up the deficit that it was good. I'm just saying that, relatively speaking,
there is no deficit or debt accumulator anywhere close to Barack Obama. So if government debt
correlates well, or even causes economic growth, then how come in the economic years of Barack
Obama, where we ran up historic amounts of debt, the economy had the worst recovery and growth rates post-World War II from any recovery from a recession?
I mean, Joe, it doesn't make any sense.
But again, this is my frustration with dealing with liberals, is they say things and they don't.
And this guy's actually, he has the cojones to write this into the Wall Street Journal.
He's so confident about it.
Like, oh, it was definitely the deficit spending.
Okay, so why wasn't it the deficit spending under Obama?
Oh, because Obama never cut taxes.
All right, maybe that had something to do with it, but that would require you to think,
which is usually asking liberals for too much.
All right, he goes on.
He also subsequently raised taxes.
This is the writer talking about Reagan.
That's the he.
Okay, he did. I've discussed this before. He also subsequently raised taxes. This is the writer talking about Reagan. That's the he. Okay.
He did.
I've discussed this before.
Reagan cut the income tax rate from 70% to 28%.
In order to make income taxes correspond to capital gains tax rates,
so there was no arbitrage going on,
Reagan raised the capital gains tax from 20% to 28%.
But here's the problem.
If you believe government revenue is, and this is good, folks, follow me for a second
here, because it, again, it demonstrates completely the liberal stupidity that is so abundant
throughout our population that doesn't want to educate themselves as to what's going on,
like our buddy, Cank, the Cankster.
This is like 90 on the Cankster curve, all right?
This is seriously this guy is
suggesting somehow that raising the capital gains tax which reagan did he cut income taxes raise
capital gain tax you follow me capital gains went from 20 28 he's suggesting somehow that that led
to this this this this spurt in economic growth but But Reagan hiking the capital gains tax
resulted in less capital gains tax revenue.
Oh, you didn't know that?
Oh, you didn't do your homework?
The capital gains tax revenue in the Reagan years
as the tax rate went up, went down.
So in one sentence, you're saying that deficit spending,
in other words, the government spending money we don't have,
that government spending,
that that's what's stimulating the economy.
In the next sentence, you're citing a tax increase that brought in less government revenue.
I don't get, Joe, I mean, really, this is the frustration in dealing with the modern liberal.
And folks, believe me, as this tax cut debate heats up, you're going to hear these arguments
over and over.
But Reagan hiked taxes.
Yeah, but you're saying the government spending money is what's going to lead to economic growth.
It wasn't the tax cuts.
Okay, so how come Reagan hiking the capital gains tax rate resulted in less revenue to the government so what you're saying is less revenue to the government is good for the economy oh thank you
there you go you proved that point but you see how do you get my leap there how what they're
saying doesn't make any sense it's it's ridiculous but he doesn't seem to know that. But he's very confident. Oh, this one's a doozy, by the way. He said, certainly deregulation had some positive
effects on our economy, but they also led to the S&L crisis. Here we go again. Now, I don't have
time to debunk this nonsensical argument about how deregulation caused the savings and loan crisis.
how deregulation caused the savings and loan crisis.
Deregulation was not the cause of the savings and loan crisis.
It was regulation that subsequently led to deregulation later.
That's a different argument.
The savings and loan crisis was a disaster. We lost savings and loan.
Let me just sum it up like this.
Rather than deregulating the right way, what we did is deregulated and re-regulated.
So they made investors in savings and loans constantly protected by up to a certain amount
of money, protected by a taxpayer bailout. So rather than Joe, say, in a private company,
if we had whatever, Joe's Table and Chairs, right? And Joe's Table and Chairs is having
economic trouble
with the savings and loans were
because they had engaged in,
once they were allowed to invest in other products
outside of mortgages,
they were having some trouble recouping their investment.
Rather than say Joe's Table and Chairs
where investors would start pulling out their money
because you weren't making any money anymore,
money kept piling in.
Now, why would that be? Why would you keep investing in Joe's Table and Chairs? It doesn't making any money anymore, money kept piling in. Now, why would that be? Why would you
keep investing at Joe's table and chairs? It doesn't make any sense. Oh, well, because the
government re-regulated and put in a taxpayer bailout where even if you lost money, the taxpayers
provided a backstop. And all of a sudden, this is an argument for what? This is an argument that
Reagan screwed up the economy because deregulation, in other words, code word for less government involvement.
No, it was precisely government involvement in the savings and loan that caused the debacle.
Again, this is just comical stuff that liberals won't tell you and will argue without thinking
through the consequences of their illogical behavior.
Their statements make no sense.
They'll lie to you constantly, folks.
It's really upsetting.
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my new renegade republican uh looks great man in the podcast you can't see it but uh yeah and
the facebook live you can it's pretty cool um tom fieryiery, wrote a piece in Cato, and it's
just interesting because it debunks,
again, more liberal nonsense. There was
a Washington Post piece by Christine
Emba, and the premise of the
piece, now that the Justice
Department, Joe, to give you a little background, is
opening up an investigation
or looking into college admission behavior
with regard to Asian Americans.
This has been a problem for a long time.
Asian Americans, I really feel for,
if you're an Asian American trying to get into college, you're getting screwed.
You're just getting screwed.
There's no other way to say it.
You have to score the equivalent of hundreds of points higher
than people who are white, people who are black,
or people who are Hispanic to get into college.
Because whether colleges will admit it or not, Joe, there's an informal quota,
it may be a tacit agreement and a wink and a nod, but make no mistake, it's there.
There's an informal quota for the number of Asian Americans that are admitted to colleges.
And this has been a festering sore on America for a long time,
and it's an ugly form of reverse discrimination.
Now, as I said to you the other day in the show quoting Hayek, you know, Hayek made the point in
his book, The Road to Serfdom, and clearly that when you engage in policies like affirmative
action and attempt to treat people, quote, equally, what you actually do is force the
government to treat people unequally. Because what you're doing is you're giving spots and
slots and
seats in a college to people who may or may not be qualified based on physical characteristics
that spot is zero sum that desk needs a button it but only one butt fits in the desk so when you
give it to someone based on a characteristic other than merit what you're doing is you're
telling someone else that merit doesn't matter make Make sense, Joe? I mean, not hard to understand.
We've heard this in the last few days, yes.
Yeah.
Well, the left is going nuts over this, this lawsuit,
because the left doesn't care about reverse discrimination.
The left only cares about discrimination in its favor,
because the left is concerned about buying votes.
That's it.
Nothing more.
Now, this Christine Emba wrote a piece,
and the premise of the piece is it's not black Americans who are keeping your kid out of college.
It's rich kids because they're buying the seats.
Now, Fiery does a great job at just knocking this thing down, and I'll put the piece in the show notes.
But he makes a great point, and one that we've brought up on the show in the past with respect to airline seats and other things.
It's just not true. Now, let me be clear, and he's clear in the piece too. He's not suggesting
that buying a seat in a university doesn't exist. Neither am I. It does. Are we clear on that? So
don't send me nasty emails on it. I get it. Buying people, buying access to elite colleges
and universities happens. You got it.
Point stipulated.
You win.
The judges rule.
Secondly, I'm not suggesting that's fair.
Okay?
It happens.
Not fair.
Point stipulated.
You win.
Please don't send me an email on that.
It drives me crazy when people say things that I said that I didn't say.
Okay?
You win.
But suggesting from an economic and financial perspective that like hard affirmative action programs that keep Asian-Americans out of seats, that rich kids are keeping you out of a seat in a college, it makes no sense at all.
And it requires and the author should be ashamed. I mean, it requires a total misunderstanding of economics, even in its basic sense.
Now, it would be the equivalent, to give you an analogy,
it would be the equivalent of saying that a first-class passenger on an airline
is keeping you out of a coach seat.
The analogy works the same way.
What do I mean by this?
Fiery points out in a piece that colleges, Joe, have these list prices.
You know, you've seen them.
You know, the regular $50,000 a semester to go to whatever.
You know, Joe Armacost University.
Yeah, you've all heard it.
I mean, everybody's complaining about them.
You know, my niece goes to Duke and tuition's outrageous.
The point that the guy makes in the piece is the list price,
these outrageous prices you hear, $100,000 a semester.
Joe, almost nobody pays that.
Except who?
The rich kids.
That's right.
That's right.
The rich kids pay it.
The rich kids pay the list price.
They're the only ones.
So what am I getting at?
Just like the really wealthy people are the only ones playing for the first class seats.
What happens?
It is those rich people paying for, by the way, I never understood a first class seat
on like an hour flight.
I'm sorry.
I mean, is it really that bad for an hour?
Gosh, you're going to pay like double the price for an hour?
God bless you.
Knock yourself out.
But I never understood that.
But it's by those first class passengers paying a premium
for that seat that keeps the coach seat prices down i mean this folks seriously is the washington
post not get this so the point the author makes is that colleges will even admit to you that by
a limited number of rich kids buying access which i'm not saying is fair. Let me be clear. But by that happening, it gives colleges financial leeway to charge people who can't afford their
college list price less money via scholarships and other programs.
Does that make sense, Joe?
Yeah.
Now, again, we're overlooking the big bull in the China shop, which is government involvement
in higher education, which has inflated the cost. I get that. We've covered that in other shows.
The government's had a large role in inflating the cost in general. But forgive me, leave that
aside for a moment. Suggesting that rich kids are limiting seats for other people is just
economically stupid. It just doesn't make sense. It's actually incentivizing the colleges
to allow more middle class and poor people in because they have financial headroom now
from rich kids paying that list price to allow people who can't afford that price to pay less.
I'm not saying the economic model isn't distorted. I'm just saying this is another effort by liberals,
this Christine Emba at the Washington Post, to ignore basic economics to ignore common sense and turn what is obvious racial discrimination against asian
americans joe into a class war this is for them this is a a tragically brilliant sleight of hand
and remember what the washington post writes say thank you so sean just wrote on facebook i'm an
administrator anniversary you were exactly right, Dan. Thank you.
Cool.
This Christine Emba is trying to tragically, she's trying to flip it into an economic equality
argument.
And this is what they do.
They distort the truth.
Liberals do this all the time, folks.
It's really, really irritating.
They do this all the time.
They take what's an obvious case of discrimination and they turn it and they flip it into something
it's not. And they lie to you the entire time. And when you's an obvious case of discrimination and they turn it and they flip it into something it's not
and they lie to you the entire time.
And when you respond otherwise, Joe, what do they do?
They call you a racist.
We haven't done that in a while.
Ode to our friend Tom Marr.
God rest his soul.
We love Tom.
Tom was a radio host at WCBM.
And once in a while, Tom used to do that all the time.
Sometimes listeners ask for a comeback.
I don't like to do it too much.
But he used to say, remember that on the radio?
Tom did it better than I did.
They'll call you a racist.
All right.
A couple of quick current news stories.
I just want to hammer through quickly.
So Wall Street Journal had a piece again showing the hypocrisy of the silly left, how
ridiculous they are.
Remember the Dakota Access Pipeline, that pipeline out west that the left was protesting?
We covered it on the show a couple of times.
So they gave kind of a hot wash, a little autopsy of what happened afterwards at the
Dakota Access Pipeline, where a bunch of liberals were protesting an oil pipeline.
Many of you saw it in the news. But again, liberals don't know what they're protesting.
These were supposedly environmentalists. These environmentalists, Joe, left behind
9.8 million pounds of garbage that had to be cleaned up. You guys are great. Good night's
job. That's really very beneficial. Yeah. They left behind abandoned animals, including puppies.
There were 600 arrests.
There were shots fired at police officers.
So, you know, you just have no credibility, Libs.
You really don't.
I mean, at least when Glenn Beck had that rally down in the mall with the Tea Party years ago, they left the place cleaner than they found it.
Liberals show up and, you know, they're just a bunch of punks.
A lot of these far left radical activists. How do you even leave behind nine point eight
million pounds of garbage? How do you even do that? Is that even possible? Like you have to
intentionally want to pollute the area to do that. Did someone put out a call on Craigslist like
bring your home garbage to our protest and dump it on the ground? I mean, this is nearly impossible
to do, but liberals will find a way. And the greatest irony of all, Joe, they were environmental protesters. So nice work, Libs, again.
One more story. You won't see this in the media, Joe. Trump's approval rating has been going up
and going up dramatically. And this is the kind of story, again, the mainstream media ignores,
but you'll hear it here. Washington Examiner,iner interesting piece i'll put it in the show notes today trump is currently a 45 approval is that great no not
great is it good it's better than where we were yeah and it's trending up and joe this is the
kicker this is going to really scare the hell out of the libs who love identity politics
the bump in his approval rating is due to two groups it It's due to Hispanics, which his approval rating is a stunning 42%.
And union households, get a load of this one, 51%.
You want to talk about the Democrats panicking right now?
Remember the yesterday's show when I talked about the demographic breakdown of Trump voters?
I'm telling you right now, although the Republicans suck, they do.
They have really blown it on Obamacare.
Not all of them.
I got a critique from a state lawmaker. and fair enough, she sent me an email.
She said you shouldn't criticize all Republicans.
She's right.
I don't mean all of them.
I should be clear on that.
But sadly, a good swath of them, even though they're terrible, the Democrats folks are in far worse shape.
If they lose the Hispanic vote and the union vote, Joe, do you understand there is absolutely no arithmetic
for them to win? None. And they do too. They know too. That's why they're in a total panic. There
is absolutely no way they can win with that kind of a demographic breakdown. It's not possible.
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