The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 531 ESPN Just Pushed America off the Stupid-Cliff!
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Dan Bongino.
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On a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Renegade Republican with Dan Bongino.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
I'm ready to go, Dan-o.
Dude, we have reached peak stupid.
We have.
We have reached peak stupid. We have. We have reached peak insanity, peak stupid.
It's just, I mean, every day it's a new incident where you scratch your head and you say, is this real?
Are we living in a comic book?
Can this actually be happening?
So let me give you a little background on what I'm talking about.
All right.
So last night, you know, I had a busy day yesterday.
I was running around, had a ton of stuff to do.
It was like back to school for my daughter, back to school night.
So my wife and I are really busy.
The school's not exactly around the corner.
So we split the work.
She works from home.
She drops off.
I pick up.
It was really just a hectic day. You know, we do this thing for the work. She works from home. She drops off. I pick up. It was really just a hectic day.
We do this thing for the church.
It was a meeting last night after that.
So we didn't get in until almost, I don't know, 830.
So I come in at 830, and I have a really open floor plan in my house.
So when you're in the kitchen, you can see the TV.
So I've got Tucker Carlson on on Fox, and I hear this story.
And he was doing the story right after a kind of a silly story
where he was joking around about Trump tears.
And so he was making a joke.
But he segued almost seamlessly into this story about, if you haven't heard this, by
the way, get ready to be floored.
All right.
He segues seamlessly into the story about an AsianAmerican sports announcer for MSESPN, a branch of ESPN,
that was supposed to be the announcer for a University of Virginia football game.
University of Virginia near Charlottesville and that whole area around there.
The Asian-American man, his announcer, his name is Robert Lee.
Yeah. Yeah. You're like, okay, his name is Robert Lee. Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, okay, so what?
All right.
Robert Lee, who is an Asian American, was removed from being an announcer on said football
game because they all thought it would be a good idea because they were afraid his name,
Robert Lee, which is the exact same name of Robert Lee, Robert E. Lee, the commanding Confederate commander of Confederate forces during the Civil War, would offend people pursuant to the Charlottesville Confederate statues incident we had a couple of weeks ago.
He was subsequently removed.
Now, let me be absolutely crystal clear, folks.
removed now let me be absolutely crystal clear folks if you're listening to this thinking this is a joke i 100 sympathize with you because when i heard the story given the seamless segue tucker
did between the trump tears story which was a joke into this i swear to you on my life, I thought he was kidding. They had an ESPN, no, excuse me, not an ESPN, a Fox Sports News reporter on, and I was waiting
for them to say, this is a joke.
We're just trying to highlight how stupid the left has gotten, how we've reached peak
stupid in America, and how this isn't true.
I was waiting.
Matter of fact, I almost got into a minor tiff with my wife because she's like
dan well she calls me something different but it's nice but let's just say dan for the sake
of this show it's like dan this is true they would not be reporting this on fox news like this
without letting them people know in advance like they did with the trump tears thing that it was a
joke because you would you know you'd be, what if people tune out halfway through?
And then Fox News would be, look, you guys are putting up fake news.
You get what I'm saying?
She's like, there's no way this is fake.
This is a real story.
I'm like, Paula, no way.
I know ESPN is full of liberal imbeciles.
But there is no way they removed an asian american sports reporter named robert lee
from the sidelines because he has the same name as a confederate general uh who involved in a war
that over 150 years ago there's no way this is possible but folks it's a real story that actually
happened now yes we've reached we've reached peak stupid folks this is the new world we are living with
love i'm going to give you a solution to this in a minute i'm going to move on because i could
rant on this all day and i don't like to waste your time you're going to hear about this a lot
it's trending on twitter now you're going to get a lot of coverage and talk radio i just want to
give you my perspective on this because there's only one solution to this one we have reached peak stupid
this is what the left wants the left wants everything to be boiled down to whatever
outrages them is is is going to be is going to be a way to alienate let me explain that better i
didn't say that right this is a topic i brought up before in the past right the reason the left
likes to control the language
and control the circle of what acceptable behavior is,
and when I say the language,
meaning now anybody named Robert E. Lee
is going to offend anybody,
anyone who, any insinuation or attachment
to the Confederacy, however abstract,
is going to be a reason to keep people off the air.
They want to do it because what they define as offensive is going to be a reason to keep people off the air. They want to do it because what they define as offensive is going to be
declared offensive.
Now ESPN is,
you get what I'm saying?
You're like ESPN has fallen into this trap of,
despite the fact that Asian American,
Robert Lee,
the sports reporter has absolutely less than zero connection to Robert E.
Lee,
the Confederate general.
It doesn't matter.
They have fallen into the trap of if the left is offended, we're all to be offended.
Therefore, said fringe position should be accepted by everyone.
You get what I'm saying?
Oh, I do.
And I hate it.
It is.
It's this exact same reason why they change the language all the time.
It's the exact same reason why they use the media to put out stories and feed false narratives
to America.
They want to convince you a position accepted by a fringe of Looney Tunes,
wackadoodle Americans are accepted on a widespread basis. And this Robert E. Lee story is another
one. ESPN fell into the trap of believing that people would actually be offended by a sideline
reporter, an Asian-American man named Robert Lee, which is so outrageous. But it speaks to the power and the dominance of the left in the culture wars,
which I brought up yesterday.
They are winning the culture wars and they are losing everywhere else.
There is going to be a backlash to this.
I warned in yesterday's show, I'll warn you again.
The politics for the left are going to get worse.
They are going to start to take a bath at the local, state, and federal level,
even worse than they are now, despite the fact that they are getting destroyed and are at the lowest ebb of power the Democrat Party's had since 1920.
Now, what's the solution to this?
Ladies and gentlemen, I absolutely hate the idea of boycotts.
I hate it.
I've always hated it.
I stood against it for the longest time. But I had a rude awakening when the Mozilla thing happened. And one of the founders of Mozilla, the web search company, had spoken out or donated to a Prop 8 cause. And he was a relatively liberal guy otherwise, and they boycotted him. And I thought, you know, there's no other way to fight this fight other than to fight fire with fire. There is no other way.
way to fight this fight other than to fight fire with fire. There is no other way. I know it's not ideal. And the reason it bothers me, this entire approach is boycotting either way, whether it's
boycotting ESPN, boycotting Hollywood movies, boycotting the NFL, are decisions not made on
the economics of the issue. And I think as a society, if we're going to grow and prosper
economically, financially, and listen, the psychological prosperity that comes along with wealth, you don't want to be poor.
It's tough to be poor as a country.
I mean, this should be pretty obvious, not difficult to understand.
These are decisions we're making based on tactical strategy, not economic ones.
In other words, if your base, the level decision outside of any other nonsense is to go and watch the NFL
because you enjoy the NFL, then it's worth it for you to spend that time on Sunday.
It's an economic decision you made.
If you enjoy buying NFL jerseys, that's an economic decision you made.
You're a rational maximizer.
You think you'll be better off with that product.
The fact that you're not choosing that product,
despite the fact that you enjoy it and would be better off,
is not a sound way to move forward.
I totally get that.
I totally get we are actually hurting ourselves economically. The problem is there is no other option because the other option, option two, is letting the left destroy the economy
entirely for conservative Americans, conservative companies, while they in turn reap the benefits
of all of our hard work. There is no other alternative. The only solution I have for you,
and folks, this is getting harder and harder,
but we got to get in the fight here.
You know, I'll get to the boycott thing in a second,
but I'm obviously not your preacher
and I don't ever try to be.
I'm a sinner, folks, like everyone else,
but this is important.
I was in church this weekend
and the uh the the priest had a really great line he said he was talking in his homily and this is
something I've I've I've tried to discuss on the show a lot the value of suffering and how human
suffering supposed to mean something and I think Jesus Christ's example through crucifixion was
the value of suffering for human beings how we're supposed to suffer something. And I think Jesus Christ's example through crucifixion was the value of suffering for human beings, how we're supposed to suffer, not necessarily obviously
be crucified, but we're here to suffer for the better of society, for the better of our fellow
man, our friends and family. And he said something interesting. He said, you know, Jesus didn't only
come to comfort the afflicted, but to afflict the comfortable. And guys, you know, ladies,
it's time to afflict yourself with a little discomfort.
You know, I wrote in my second book,
you know, it's time to get big,
like we used to say in the Secret Service.
You know, when the bullets fly,
the instructors used to tell us,
get big, get big, get big,
so you'd get hit,
not the fake president you were protecting
during these exercises.
Believe me, it hurt.
These semi-unition rounds,
you know what a semi-unition round is? It's a plastic bullet with a soapy, waxy interior with
a color. Those things hurt. Don't hurt like real bullets, but they hurt. And get big, get big,
get big, get hit, get hit everywhere. The face, the hands, anywhere, as long as it protect,
he's not hit. Well, it's time for the comfortable, a lot of us, to afflict ourselves.
It's time for us to get big and take on a little suffering.
Again, I'm not lecturing anyone.
I'm not telling you.
I'm not speaking with forked tongue.
It is really painful for me last year, as I said, to not watch the Super Bowl.
Remember that show we did, Joe?
Yeah, sure.
I had heard the next day was the greatest Super Bowl ever.
I saw none of it, not a second of it.
Yeah, me either. Now, I don't really miss the NFL this year, I'll be honest with you.
It's because I'm just used to it now. I've been boycotting for two years. But that hurt. These were little things, though. We have to start taking on these afflictions. And what I mean by
that is ESPN made this decision. It's time for you to cut the cord and blame ESPN. It's time for you
to get rid of them
don't log on their website don't use their stuff if you can i mean some people can't frankly folks
to be candid i i can't because i need cable news it's the only way i can get it to do my show
if you don't need it and there's another way but i've you know how many movies i've skipped you
know how painful it was for me to not go see rogue One being a huge Star Wars fan. You're like, what happened there?
You had these imbeciles,
the writer of the show, oh, this, you know,
Trump's an idiot or whatever it was. I'm like, I'm not seeing
it. I respect if you want to go see
it, that's fine. Do your thing. I'm not.
You know how hard that was? My daughter loves it. Those are
family affairs. You know how many movies, I will never see
another movie with Jennifer Lawrence in it. I wanted
to see that movie Passengers. I had to wait for it to come
out on cable because she insulted Christians in Kentucky. It is time for us
to afflict ourselves. It's the only way to fight back. It's the only way. You know, we have to
start posting on Facebook and letting our feelings be known as well. I know it's hard for you. I know
a lot of us have jobs and have friends. We don't want to lose our circle of friends, but do you want to lose your country? I mean, we're at the
point now where we are seriously looking at losing our country. We're an Asian American sports
reporter who's kicked off a broadcast because he shares the name with a Confederate general
who fought in a war 150 years ago. Folks, there's no alternative.
We are the most comfortable generation in American history, without a doubt.
We have material comforts no one ever was privy to.
Cell phones, flat screen TVs, clean food, relatively clean air.
Our biggest problem in the United States is obesity when it comes to feeding ourselves.
There was genuine starvation during the Great Depression.
Real food lines.
We have to start to afflict ourselves.
It's not a lecture at all, folks.
I get it.
It's tough.
Believe me, there are days
I just want to pull out of this fight
because I'm just mentally exhausted.
Matter of fact,
I woke up this morning like I can't,
I'm still astonished
this story actually happened.
But it's time to get big.
The left's outrage campaign will never ever ever stop
matter of fact i did a hit on fox news this morning and i said you know mount rushmore is
going to be next and the fox news as they accurately pointed out i think it was ainsley who said
no dan they're already going after mount rushmore yeah they are the slippery slope is slippery and
it's getting sloperier every single day columbus the the rise and the run are getting
bigger every single day it's it's never going to stop columbus right i mean as an italian american
how do you feel about that well they've already started to bang down that statue in baltimore it
was the oldest uh statue of columbus in america yeah i mean how do you feel about that while the
left lionizes people like al sharpton and bill ay, how do you feel about that? While the left lionizes people like Al Sharpton and Bill Ayers, how do you feel about that? Let's crap all over the
legacy, however, however, tarnished and imperfect of Christopher Columbus. I mean, this is it's
never going to end, folks. All right. And I mean, to go on that long about that story, but it just
is another example of the world we live in today, which is peak liberal insanity. It needs to be a full-blown economic boycott of anyone associating with this
far-left crap. There's no other way. Don't spend a dime in any of these places. Don't go back to
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Moving on a bit.
The speech last night, the Trump speech.
An interesting speech.
Interesting.
I think any time Trump speaks, it's always interesting.
It always becomes a must.
Did you see any of it, Joe?
You're probably asleep.
No, this morning I saw some clips and heard some.
Yeah, I mean, the gist of it is there were two takeaways.
Number one, he's still really, really upset about the media response to Charlottesville. And for all the media, and again, I get it.
People are going to say, oh, Spongino, he's a Trump guy, whatever, blah, blah.
Yeah, you're just being a jerk, okay?
If you're a listener to the show, you know I'm not an anyone guy.
I'm an ideas guy.
But I just want to quickly explain for a second my perspective here.
Having run for office, granted, nowhere close to the level of Donald Trump,
but I ran for the U.S. Senate, won the GOP nomination, ran for Congress,
and we almost won the congressional seat.
You know, we lost by a point.
So I've been involved in some intense political races.
And I know what it's like as a conservative or a Republican in Donald Trump's case to be accused of something as heinous as being a racist.
I know what it's like because that's what every, every liberal does to every.
know what it's like because that's what every every liberal does to every if you're a republican candidate listening right now or pondering being one um mark it down in your book and take it to
the bank today you will be accused at some point of being a racist it doesn't matter if you're black
if you're asian if you're if you're muslim if you're hispanic it doesn't matter it doesn't
matter matter of fact if you are a gay, you will be accused of hating gays.
There is no doubt about it.
It's what the left does.
But I would make the case to you strongly, and I'm absolutely convinced about this, Joseph,
that being called a racist is probably, not probably, I would say is the ugliest thing
in America you can call someone right now in politics.
I think so, Daniel.
I don't think there's a worse, maybe terrorist.
I don't know.
Maybe they're on an equal scale.
But calling someone a racist, that you don't have the intelligence to judge people by anything
more than elevated melanin content of their skin, really is just pure.
I don't even want to say it because I'll get into cuss words and it's not necessary during
the show.
Bottom line is, it was a long-winded way of explaining the reason Trump went back to Charlottesville last night
because the punditry class is on Fox News and a lot of cable right now.
And they're saying, why does he keep going back to this?
Why, why, why?
You know why?
Because he's just a guy, okay?
He's a man at heart.
He's not a polished politician.
Can we get past that?
He clearly does not listen to his advisors who told him to let the Charlottesville response go
and the media calling him a racist.
He can.
He's a builder from Queens.
I've explained this on this show repeatedly.
There are two things I know well.
I know builders and I know Queens.
I grew up in Queens.
I was there my entire life up until I had the Secret Service when I got builders and I know Queens. I grew up in Queens. I was there my entire
life up until I have the secret service. When I got hired and had to move to Maryland, I know
Queens better than anybody. Okay. Tell me an area Queens. I'll tell you someone we know over there.
I grew up there, played basketball there. I hung out in some bars there. Maybe I, everything,
my entire life was Queens. My father was a building inspector for years i'm
very familiar with the entire arena when you are a queens builder you're a fighter you have to be a
fighter you're fighting the city that's constantly harping on you for building code stuff you're
fighting the unions who are constantly harping on you for more money and shutdowns it is a ugly
tough job to be a developer anywhere in new york city it's especially stuff in
queens and here's the queen psychology you may be missing and why trump is the way he is he's a
queens guy queens guys and some women have a complex i'm one of them this is going to be
self-deprecating but it's true in case any of you ever wondering about dan why dan is the way he is
i'm doing a bob dole talking about myself in a third person.
When you live in Queens,
Queens people are like the,
the,
I don't know how to describe it.
The middle class of the five boroughs,
right?
There are poor areas of boroughs,
right?
If you have the Bronx,
which is relatively poor outside of certain areas,
they are.
It's just a lot.
There are a lot of lower income areas.
These are just facts. Do it at what you want. I'm telling you the are. It's just a lot. There are a lot of lower income areas. These are just facts.
Do it at what you want.
I'm dealing with the facts.
Brooklyn's kind of bipolar.
You have really expensive areas of Brooklyn and really poor areas of Brooklyn.
Then you have Manhattan, which is almost all rich.
I mean, outside of really like maybe Washington Heights and stuff,
Manhattan is all money all the time.
So if you're a Manhattanite, you're like an elitist snob.
That's what people associate with you.
I'm just giving you the New York inside baseball.
If you're a Brooklyn or a Bronx kid, you're hard-edged and you're tough,
and people respect that too.
Follow me, Joe.
So if you're a Manhattanite, you get that respect because you're wealthy.
You've got power. You've got power.
You've got influence.
You live in Manhattan.
Like, thirst and hell.
If you're a Brooklyn or a Bronx kid, you get that respect because, like, man, this dude is tough.
I know.
I grew up that way.
People would be like, I'm from the Bronx.
I'd be like, whoa, don't mess with that guy.
But when you're in Queens, you're neither.
The Bronx and Brooklyn kids think you're a softie
because you didn't grow up as hard as they do
because it doesn't have as many lower income areas, Queens.
It's generally middle class.
And then the Manhattan people don't respect you
like they didn't respect Trump
because you didn't have enough money to live in Manhattan.
The complex these Queens guys always have
is you're fighting both sides.
You're not tough enough to be a Brooklyn or a Bronx kid. You're not rich enough to be accepted amongst the elites. So you constantly are an
overachiever. It's what, I kid you not, it's what motivates probably 99% of what I do. The ability
to prove people wrong, you know? It is. And it's because you're never accepted by either side.
This is the psychology of Donald Trump. this is why when you say to yourself why can't he let it go this is why he can't let it go his
entire life has been an epic exercise in overcoming predetermined labels from people who surrounded
him in new york i've seen donald trump's personality in every single kid i grew up with in queens
every one of them.
Combine that with the fact that he's a builder and he's constantly fighting unions and he's
fighting New York City bureaucrats.
Now you have a guy with a complex who's constantly thrown in the boxing ring trying to prove
something.
And you wonder why he's not going to let go the fact that the media called him a racist
in Charlottesville?
Folks, I'm telling you, after last night's speech,
for those of you in the media hoping he lets it go,
oh, he's got to let this end,
the Republican punditry class going,
he's got to let this go and focus on his agenda.
This is his agenda.
That's what you're missing.
Donald Trump's agenda is defending the legacy of Donald Trump.
He is not going to allow you to call him a racist. That's just a fact. Donald Trump's agenda is defending the legacy of Donald Trump.
He is not going to allow you to call him a racist.
That's just a fact.
And you know, I have to tell you, folks, it doesn't take a Trumpkin or whatever you want to call people
who are loyal to Donald Trump.
I'm not. I'm loyal to ideas.
I'm not a Trumpkin.
I'm not a Trumpster, whatever stupid name you want to use.
I'm just telling you, I don't blame the guy at all.
If I was the president of the United States and i had a bunch of hack disgusting media outlets calling me a racist the worst thing you can call a human being i'd be on this every single day
it's the media that did something wrong it's not donald trump his response to charlottesville
was the strongly in the strong, I'm quoting, in the
strongest possible terms, condemn what happened. What does strongest possible terms mean to you?
Then he comes out again and says, okay, I get it. Maybe we didn't mention these groups specifically.
I condemn the violence. Maybe he just assumed too much because he's a Republican, which he
probably did. Of course, the media is going to go after you. So then he comes out and condemns these groups specifically.
And it's still not enough.
Why would he not go out there and defend himself?
So takeaway number one is I'm telling you media folks listening.
I know I have some.
I got an interesting tweet the other day.
Listen to the show.
Yeah, interesting.
Forget it.
He is not going to let Charlottesville go and i'm telling you if
you're a republican out there too in the punditry class who hates trump fine yeah you know you're
free to feel how you want to feel but lecturing the guy on what it's like to be called a racist
is it's never gonna he's not gonna stop he's gonna fight this until someone admits or
apologists they were wrong or apologizes to him. He's a builder from Queens.
Don't ever, ever forget that.
And the minute you grasp that, who he is, the minute you grasp it, you'll understand.
The why matters, not just for liberals, but for Trump, too.
The why will all make sense, why Trump does what he does.
Okay, the second takeaway from the speech last night, which is important.
Because, folks, this marks a pretty substantial shift in Republican politics if he runs with this.
He said something last night that's kind of taken a backseat because of his response to Charlottesville, but was pretty darn profound.
He said he's willing to go to a government shutdown over this border fence.
Now, folks, this is a big deal. Now, not for the
reasons you may think, though. I'm not surprised that he said it, and I'm not surprised he still
supports the border fence. He obviously realizes it's something that vaulted him to the presidency
and has the support of a good portion of Americans and a particularly large group of supporters
within his base. That's not mysterious. But this marks a catastrophic shift
for the media right now in the way Republicans or some Republicans in the Trump camp are going
to handle them. Folks, Republicans have run from the media and when it comes to government
shutdowns forever, ever since the Gingrich Clinton shutdown in the 90s, they have run from it because
the fear has always been that they're going to be blamed
no matter what, which they are.
Now, there's a congressman Joe and I both know who shall remain nameless, but a supporter
of his was talking to him once and asked him about a government shutdown and government
spending.
And he said exactly that.
It's not that we don't know we're right.
It's that the media won't be on our side.
Folks, that has been the guiding principle of Republican politics for decades now, many decades. It's not that we're not right. It's that we have to do the Democrats bidding, including not shutting down the government because we're going to get blamed, even though we're right.
last night. Donald Trump clearly laid out on the table last night saying this, I don't care anymore what the media says. I'm going to do what's right, what my supporters support, this building this
border wall, something I ran on, and I'm going to keep this promise even if I have to shut down the
government. If he sticks with this, this is a major seismic shift in the way the Republican Party
leadership right now through the presidency is goingic shift in the way the Republican Party leadership right now
through the presidency is going to handle in the future the threat of a government shutdown.
Because the minute the Democrats capitulate on this, everything changes in the future.
If the Democrats really believe that a big, monolithic, mamm mammoth sized federal government is essential to the functioning of every action
you do in your life how are they going to explain it away if trump sticks to his guns on this
and shuts down the government up until they sign a bill for this border fence how are they going to
explain to america when their life just goes on as normal folks i got news for you the way the
government's funded now your social security checks are going to arrive. Your military is going to be funded. There may be some federal
workers whose paychecks come later, but they're going to get their back pay and everything. I
assure you, your life is going to go on as normal. Essential workforce people are going to be paid.
If he sticks to this, the Democrats are going to be devastated because they're going to have a
really hard time explaining if this goes on. I'm not wishing for it.
I really hope we can get we can get done without it.
It shouldn't be a bargaining tool.
But the fact that the Republicans have been have been been blamed for this for years, these Republican shutdowns, despite the fact that the Democrats have been largely obstructionists on it.
I think Trump can entirely change the game on this.
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All right.
I saw a story today
in the Wall Street Journal,
which I'll put in the show notes.
And it was really a disturbing story.
And it's something that's worried me
for a long time,
especially with the explosive growth
of artificial intelligence.
There's a guy who wrote an op-ed.
His name is Matthew Prince, and he works for a company called CloudFare.
It's a company I've heard of before, but I'll be honest with you,
I wasn't really that sure what they did.
It's an internet-based company, and it basically provides
hacking prevention-type services for the internet.
Apparently, they have a rather large base of customers.
And Prince, who is one of the founders of the company,
he writes a very honest op-ed.
I got to tell you, Joe,
it took a lot of stones to write this piece
because the mob right now after Charlottesville,
the mob is looking for scalps.
And this guy's opening himself up to pretty
significant criticism by writing this piece in the Wall Street Journal, which has a pretty wide
swath of readers. The premise of his piece is you can't operate a website without CloudFare or
something like it because you'll be hacked almost instantaneously and taken off the internet.
So he says, we have an enormous amount of power uh the gist of it is if us and
google and facebook decide you're not on the internet you're gone goodbye it doesn't take any
government action you get what i'm saying joe like if cloudfare says hey no protection for you
the site would be hacked by hackers in 10 minutes and you'd be gone so he's i mean this is the owner
of the i mean the founder of the company this is a pretty
significant thing for him to say and he says i was responsible our company for the decision to take
protection away and our company services from the daily stormer which is an abhorrent disgusting
neo-nazi website let's just be clear about that okay we all get that that's i mean that again
only the only the liberals seem to be having a difficult time with this.
But the Daily Stormer is a is it, you know, listen, it's it's it is what it is.
It's a horrible site.
But he said, you know, I'm worried about this because he said he stood for a while about taking their services away from them, knowing the site was going to come down afterwards.
And I think it was GoDaddy or Google or whatever stopped doing hosting for them as well. for a while about taking their services away from them, knowing the site was going to come down afterwards.
And I think it was GoDaddy or Google or whatever stopped doing hosting for them as well.
So the site is down.
And granted, Joe, these are easy companies to call out.
But he brings up an interesting point about where's the line here, though?
And I want to take a different angle he doesn't address on this.
In other words, OK, granted, these guys are terrible.
But once we start policing content, and remember, Joe, this is, and I'm not accusing Matthew Prince of this because I don't know where he stands on net neutrality, but remember,
the left are big fans of net neutrality, right?
And net neutrality, which we've discussed on the show, is premised on the fact that
the left worships the idea of a bit is a bit is a bit.
In other words, a bit of information anywhere over the internet should be treated the same.
That's what they want to tell you.
It's not really what net neutrality is about, by the way, same that's what they want to tell you it's not really what net neutrality is about by the way but that's what they want to
tell you it's about what's fascinating now is the net neutrality supporter leftists who say a bit is
a bit is a bit now want to say well not exactly joe this bit and that bit are not the same so
we should police that bit for content, but not this bit.
Some bits are more equal than others.
Some bits are more equal than others.
Very good historical analogy there.
That was a little Orwellian reference, I think.
The audience always corrects me if I'm wrong.
But, folks, you can't have it both ways.
this you can't have it both ways you can't say that oh a bit is a bit is a bit on economic terms but a bit isn't a bit isn't a bit when it comes to content terms because once you start policing
the content what worries me about this is with the the explosive growth of artificial intelligence
and these use of and it's happening right now joe the use of artificial intelligence-based filters to filter out so-called hate content.
Yeah.
Where does the line between hate content and just the differing political opinion end?
Now, we get it.
Obviously, the Daily Stormer has completely different opinions than both conservatives,
liberals.
I mean, outside of the fringe neo-Nazi, no one supports this kind of stupidity.
But is that really the case with other groups?
I mean, what about a group that's always under attack?
What is it, the Federation for Immigration Reform?
I think it's called FAIR or something.
This is a group that's always under attack.
They're called a hate group
because they don't support open-ended immigration.
Now, is that a hate group
or is that just a difference on opinion
on immigration policy?
I mean, I think the answer is clear.
It's obviously a difference of opinion.
And my worry here is with the explosive growth of artificial intelligence using filters to discriminate between what a hate group and what a non-hate group is, you're going to have anyone who's a conservative effectively kept out of the public sphere, Joe, because the modern public sphere is the Internet.
So what are these days, folks? I mean, we're not very far in the future. I mean, it's happening now, but I'm talking about on an
even more mass scale. Is it that unlikely that in the future is public pressure from these fringe
left elements that want you to believe that Robert E. Lee should be kicked off a sideline because
he's an Asian American reporter who shares a name with a Confederate general.
Are we very far in the future from those fringe elements of the left getting Facebook to believe
that anybody who posts an alternate opinion on taxes or charter schools is a racist too
and should be kicked off and subject to artificial intelligence filters?
Folks, we may not be a long way away from a liberal and conservative internet.
I'm not kidding and if you think there's
not a historical precedence from this you missed the advent of the uh excuse me the birth of fox
news you know when i was when i was a secret service instructor in the academy we had i think
it was roger ailes who came i'm pretty sure forgive me for not remembering but i'm pretty sure it was
roger ailes who came down to speak at one of our, who was one of the Fox News founders and creators of
the idea of Fox News. And he brought up an interesting point. He was speaking to a graduation
class of agents. This is about 15 years ago. And he said something fascinating. He said that,
I mean, it really isn't fascinating, but I guess it was to the liberal media.
He said he was shocked that conservative America didn't have its own news outlet.
Like it was obviously between 45 and 50 percent of America, depending or 40 and 50 percent, depending on what poll you look at, conservative America.
And the media was obviously dominated by liberals that he couldn't believe no one had thought of the idea sooner.
So Fox News happened and became the world's most powerful cable news entity. By the
way, I'll be on Outnumbered tomorrow. We'll have a show tomorrow, of course. We tape early, so it's
not a big deal. But make sure you tune into Fox at 12 noon. See me on the couch tearing it up
for an hour. Folks, I think we are on the precipice of seeing the development of a
conservative internet as well. I don't mean,
I mean, it's obviously going to use the same transmission cables and things like that,
but I think we are on the precipice right now of conservative social media, a conservative
YouTube-type entity. We've already seen the development of CRTV, where we're immune from
this sponsor pressure because we're supported by subscribers like you. We don't have to worry
about it. I think you're going to see that. You're already seeing it, obviously, in editorializing
with Breitbart, Conservative Review, Daily Caller. But I think you're going to see a fork in the road
and a schism as more and more of this happens and development of AI starts segmenting people into
hate mongers and non-hate mongers based on arbitrary characteristics and political beliefs.
I think you're going to see, eventually, some very wealthy people who coalesce behind the idea
of an entirely conservative media ecosystem, including the internet.
Maybe a bold prediction, but Roger Ailes had a bold prediction too. I don't think we're that
far off from it. All right, folks, don't miss tomorrow's show because I got to... Let me just
tease this quickly. I don't do a lot of teasers
because I don't like to waste time,
but tomorrow's show
is going to be critical.
I got a story to,
this is really bothering me.
I'm seeing more and more
because people are tweeting at me
this idea of the southern strategy
and the party switch.
I got a couple news stories
I want to hit tomorrow too,
but this,
the party switch myth,
the idea, and I mentioned it the other day, but this of the party switch myth, the idea.
And I mentioned it the other day, but I don't think I debunked it in full detail.
This is being used more and more after Charlottesville.
The idea that the Democrats were not the historical party of racism and slavery in the South, which they were unquestionably.
They keep pitching this idea to people, which is a myth.
It's nonsense. It's garbage that, oh, yeah, they were.
But then they all switched to Republicans. It's nonsense.
And it's being used repeatedly by your liberal friends to justify the
racist Democratic history of the party. I have about, I took a while putting this together. I
was going to cover some of it today, but I want to rush through it. I have about 20 points totally
debunking this crap for your liberal friends where you can make them just fools, make fools out of
them. It's just nonsense. So don't miss tomorrow's show. And please join my email list at Bongino.com
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I appreciate it, folks.
Thanks a lot.
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