The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 550 Was Trump Right the Entire Time?
Episode Date: September 19, 2017In this episode - Was Trump right the entire time about the "wiretaps," and does the media owe Mark Levin a huge apology? http://fb.me/8Zlcspi9K  Liberals are losing their minds over an op-ed piece ...promoting hard work and family values. https://www.wsj.com/articles/higher-eds-latest-taboo-is-bourgeois-norms-1505774818  The Secret Service is collapsing because of inept politicians and poor management, if we don't fix it soon someone is going to get hurt, or worse. https://shar.es/1VrXhD  You should be very concerned about this Fed policy and its impact on your wallet. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-18/wall-street-s-bond-gurus-have-it-all-wrong-as-qe-unwind-looms  Why are illegal immigrants shouting down Democrats? This is a really bad strategy. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/19/nancy-pelosi-confronted-dreamers-over-daca-deal-trump-dan-bongino-reacts  Sponsor Links: www.BrickhouseNutrition.com/Dan www.PreparewithDan.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Alright, welcome to the Renegade Republican with Dan
Bongino. Producer Joe, how are you today? I'm
doing fine on this National Talk
Like a Pirate's Day there, Danny. Oh my gosh.
I could see that people wanting
to jump off the top of their roof if
National Talk Like a Pirate Day really
took off and gained momentum, you know?
I know.
I really, after about five minutes of that, I'd be like, oh.
No more.
I promise.
Yeah.
National Talk Like a Pirate Day.
Who thought of that one?
I don't know.
Man, I don't even know where to start because there's so much material today.
So I had a number of the stuff, a number of my stories, so we get to it.
But before we start, start yesterday i promised you that
i would get this clip of ben shapiro absolutely annihilating a uh you know goofy liberal at the
speech at berkeley and just to recap a bit from yesterday um the liberal asked a question that
destroyed liberalism in the course of the liberal asking a question and the liberal wasn't smart
enough to even figure it out he He basically was attacking Ben Shapiro
for not having a PhD in sociology or psychology
and commenting on social issues of the day.
In other words, so his premise is Shapiro's not smart enough
to have an opinion on social issues.
Although the liberal doesn't realize, of course,
if you listen to yesterday's show,
that the entire premise of his question
destroys liberalism altogether.
So Ben Shapiro is a Harvard-trained lawyer, by the way.
He's not smart enough to have opinions on political issues, but liberals can run the entire government, healthcare, businesses, banking, everything. It's just a joke.
So here's the cut. Listen, the guy opens up. The sound's a little tough to get,
but thanks to all the listeners who emailed me with this clip.
I really appreciate it.
I think Tyler sent it over to me, so I appreciate that.
All right, play the cut.
So what is your formal education background?
Because I guess a lot of people don't know what your undergraduate degree is in.
So I was at UCLA in political science and then Harvard Law School.
Okay.
So you don't have, you wouldn't consider yourself an expert in sociology?
I mean, I don't consider sociology
a particularly expert field, but go ahead.
I think I'm able to read a sociological study.
field for study.
But so you're not necessarily an expert.
Yes, there are lots of fields of study. Right. Well, what I'm getting at is there's a field of study. But so you're not necessarily an expert. Yes, there are lots of fields of study.
Right.
Well, what I'm getting at is there's a lot of topics.
I know a lot less about welding than I do about sociology.
What I'm getting at is that you're not considered an expert in sociology, psychology, gender studies,
lesbian dance theory,
any of these things that you've brought up tonight.
I know a lot more about all those others
than lesbian dance theory.
As far as, if you want to take issue with the argument,
I would urge you not to use the argument from authority,
which is somebody has a PhD by their name,
they know what they're talking about.
That's a dumb argument.
Okay.
Remember the tyranny of experts?
I've discussed this before in the past.
Oh, yeah.
Folks, never, ever buy into the tyranny
of so-called experts.
In other words, what Shapiro said is absolutely correct,
and hat tip to him for saying it.
Because someone has a PhD behind their name
does not give them the right to declare that facts
are therefore not facts and data because you have a PhD.
And the example I give all the time
that some of you are tired of, some of you not,
is the Bill Clinton surplus.
I can't tell you how many PhD economists who are liberal
will tell you that Bill Clinton ran a surplus when he was the president of the United States, a government surplus he presided over, when in fact no such surplus exists because the national debt rose every single year of the Bill Clinton presidency.
This is just the left.
The guy, the liberal asking this dopey question.
Again, I don't mean to recap yesterday's show again, but this is important.
The question was critical.
The question exposes the left for what it is.
You have no right to an opinion unless you have a PhD,
and yet the guy's entire opinion is that people who are elected
into government office without said PhD should be running
every single aspect of your life,
including the local congressman who may have been whatever.
He may have been a business executive in pharmaceuticals who's now presiding over banking policy right he has no phd in either
by the way so liberalism it's just full of dopes but don't let that get in the way hey another
thing cleaning up i had to send this to joe i never joe right i never send you stuff on issues
on email because i don't want to bother you but i sent you one yesterday yeah trump walking into
the un now by the way um folks i i don't know what else you. But I sent you one yesterday. Yeah. Trump walking into the UN now, by the way.
Folks, I don't know what else to say about the Social Security show, okay?
A guy emailed me yesterday, a guy named John.
I guess he didn't listen to the show.
Or if he did, he's just angry.
Listen, I get a lot of glowing email. I get a couple of not-so-glowing emails.
But what I don't appreciate at all is people sending me emails about things I didn't say
and then asking me to defend them in an email.
What do you want me to stop taking my social security and die?
All right, dude.
I'm done.
I'm done with that.
I'm done.
I've gotten about 100 emails on the social security.
Listen to the show, John.
Open your ears or please discontinue.
I don't care.
I don't need the money from this show.
I do this show because I enjoy it.
I enjoy putting out good ideas.
And hopefully, I'm not going to listen to stupid email, okay?
That's not what I said.
I sent this to Joe.
I go, dude, if I get one more of these emails, I'm telling you.
And I fired right back at him.
I go, dude, you didn't listen to the show.
I'm not answering this.
Some people will hear what they want to hear, Dan.
That was my reply to you.
That is exactly in capital letters.
You said that I am.
That is not what I said about the Social Security show.
I said, and I was clear as day.
There's no money in the program.
I did not say if you're 55 and older, you should stop taking your Social Security and die.
I said the exact opposite. as a matter of fact,
that the program's bankrupt by no
fault of your own. You did pay money
in. You're not young
enough at this point to start your entire
working career over again, and we should
prioritize getting those funds to you.
Did you not hear that, or are you intentionally
deaf?
My God. I cannot.
I mean, I really... Sorry, Mike. i shouldn't use i know i hate what i did
gosh i can't believe you got you again please do not send me emails if you don't listen to
the show i'm sorry don't you're wasting the real listeners time it's really offensive
like i'm and i do you want me to respond to you about something I didn't say?
I really was annoyed about that. And one other thing, it's Donnie Glover, not Danny.
Thank you.
Even Joe was wrong on this one.
I was wrong on that one.
Danny Glover is an actor. I know that. He was in Lethal Weapon. I think he was in Operation Dumbo Drop or something. That is not the actor I was talking about in yesterday's show.
There is another actor, a younger guy. He's the director. His name is Donnie Glover,
not Danny. They're different people.
So I appreciate it. Thank you
to Walter. He's a really good dude. He emails me a lot.
And even Joe tried to correct me.
He goes, dude, I think
it was Donnie Glover. It's not. It's Donnie Glover.
That was the guy who gave the dopey speech
at the Academy Awards about Trump oppressing
black people. Donnie, it's not Donnie.
I mess up a lot, folks.
Believe me on culture stuff, but not this one.
Okay.
All right.
Digging into the show because there's so much to talk about today.
So Levin was right.
I'll be in for Mark Levin tomorrow.
All right.
Mark Levin deserves a big apology from all of the hacks at CNN.
Brian Stelter, who's just become a disgrace to media.
Remember when Le when went back and
said hey listen that i'm basing the wiretapping stories about trump being wiretapped on the new
york time zone reporting and everybody attacked levin as oh mark levin right wing conspiracy
theorist they threw him in with them all these conspiracy theorist people they said this guy's not credible he's a he's
looking for ratings they all attacked him and it turns out well by the way mark was using the new
york times own reporting about wiretaps that mark levin was right breaking last night paul manafort
who was the campaign uh manager and one of the campaign executives for the donald trump
presidential campaign turns out cnn of all people broke a story last night that Manafort was, in fact, wiretapped. And where did Manafort
live, Joe? Trump Tower during the time in question. So not only was Donald Trump, it appears at this
point, because unlike CNN, I'm going to hold out because they're using sources. And even though
it's CNN reporting on a story that would hurt CNN,
I give them credit for doing that, reluctantly, but I do.
I'm still not willing to accept the story at face value
until we get something confirmed here.
Because I'm not going to make the mistake they make of unnamed sources.
But if these unnamed sources are correct,
Donald Trump's tweet about being wiretapped at Trump Tower was true.
Now, don't expect the media people or most of the media hacks to go back like the New York Times
and admit they were wrong the whole time. But I do expect Brian Stelter and all the people who
attacked Joe Scarborough and Morning Joe as well, who attacked Mark Levin. I do expect you to have some decency, some common decency,
and to go and apologize to Levin for saying he was a conspiracy theorist,
for promoting, not even promoting, for just documenting what the New York Times,
in fact, reported themselves, that the Trump campaign was wiretapped.
Now, there's two takeaways from this that are really important.
Before I even get to that, there's two takeaways that expose the Obama police state at this point.
You may say, wow, you just threw that one out there.
That's a lot of, really?
You just threw it in there so casually?
Yo, I did.
Because it's obvious to any reasonable person right now
that the Obama administration,
at a minimum in its last year,
I would debate longer than that,
but at a minimum in its last year
while the presidential campaign was going on,
used police state tactics.
We now have Susan Rice's national security advisor admitting to unmasking without any good reason, at least no good reason anybody's heard yet.
And definitely not a national security reason.
We now have his national security advisor admitting to spying on Trump campaign officials.
That's already been admitted.
Now, liberals, turn the show off now.
Because this is where we do facts.
And I know as some Zippo tweeted me back last night,
some liberal writer,
as well, you know, that's one way to look at it.
No, that the Obama administration
is a police state and corrupt.
There's no other way.
That's the only way to look at it.
There is no other way.
Susan Rice already admitted to it. And if this story to unmasking trump in other words spying on trump campaign members
if this story turns out to be true and cnn's reporting is accurate there is no other way
these are police state tactics what do police states do they spy on their political opponents
what did the obama administration do It spied on its political opponents.
None of that's open for interpretation anymore.
The degree of it is.
If there was unmasking and wire
tapping as well,
which are kind of like the same thing
under different premises here.
One FISA, one criminal
in the Manafort case.
This is police state tactics.
There's no other way to look at this.
Now, a couple of takeaways from this.
Again, number one is that allegedly
there was a criminal wiretap.
Folks, as a former law enforcement guy,
it's important for me to make the distinction here.
A wiretap would be listening in on a call
without the permission of at least one party.
New York State, where Trump Tower is located,
is a one-party consent state.
It's critical you understand the legal terminology here.
One-party consent state means
that it's not technically a wiretap
if I give permission for the call to be recorded
and Joe doesn't.
So let's say Joe is being investigated
for conspiracy to inflate the Renegade Republican
download numbers.
I don't know.
Be ridiculous.
And we're about to get arrested, Joe and I.
And the FBI pinches me and says, you inflated your download numbers on a Renegade Republican.
You're going to jail.
But we know Armacost is the technical genius behind the Renegade Republican, the executive
producer.
So here's what we're going to do.
We're going to put a recording device on that phone and we're gonna give joe a call and you're gonna record it now who's the one party who gave consent to record you did me now florida where i live now
is a two-party consent state meaning both of us have to give permission for the call or else you
need a warrant right a wiretap in new york therefore which is a one-party consent state
show would mean by default that neither joe nor i gave consent right because it's a one-party
consent state therefore if you got no consent that means someone's listening in a third party
being the government so there was a criminal case built uh apparently against manafort or trying to be built
against manafort uh that they used a criminal case warrant to get the wiretap that went away
the case because according to cnn's reporting uh i can't believe i'm saying this i really
according to cnn's reporting there was a lack of evidence lack of evidence meaning there was lack
of evidence of a crime, folks.
Again, in some circles, we would call that a clue
that there's no there there. But
the government, led by the
Obama administration, apparently hell-bent
on recording the conversations without
the consent of either party, of Trump
administration officials,
good enough wasn't good
enough, that there was no evidence of criminality.
So what did they do? They went for a FISA warrant, Joe,
a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant,
which does not require probable cause of a crime.
It just requires some evidence
that you were in fact interacting with a foreign power
in an effort to harm the United States.
Here's the kicker, though.
Now tell me how this isn't police state tactics.
You went for a criminal warrant.
You get the criminal warrant.
You listen in on the conversations. Cases drop. No evidence.
You then...
Good enough isn't good enough. You go back for a FISA
warrant. You claim that there's evidence
of a foreign power trying to influence
Manafort, so you go to the surveillance courts
instead. What did they base
it on? Allegedly, again, according to CNN
reporting, they based
what we're hearing on the dossier. The fake Trump dossier about how he likes all these perverted sexual things.
That's a family show.
But we don't need to cover that because the dossier is garbage.
It was made up.
It's all fabricated.
It's been discredited by every credible person on the planet.
Think about what I just told you, Joe.
Think about what I just told you, Joe.
And again, liberals listening, including Russ, the Twitter knucklehead who decided to tweet back to me. This is evidence of Trump corruption.
Think about what I just said.
This is what he said.
Not Obama.
You went after Trump's people on a criminal case.
You had nothing.
Having nothing wasn't good enough.
You went back to a foreign intelligence court with no probable cause.
Apparently, you couldn't get probable cause for anything at this point.
So you went back and alleged
that there were allegations of foreign interference in that.
To get those allegations of foreign interference
in front of a FISA court judge,
you use the dossier that is categorically untrue.
You then listened on conversations
between Manafort and possibly Donald Trump as well,
the presidential nominee.
Folks, this is the biggest political scandal of our lifetimes.
Now, do what you did to Levin.
To me, I don't care.
Call me a conspiracy theorist.
Call me crazy.
I'm telling you, if you're on the wrong side of this,
you are supporting absolutely the downfall of the Constitutional Republic
and the implementation of police state tactics
in the last truly free country on earth shame shame shame on you shame you disgust me
if you support this don't like trump fine don't vote for trump fine don't like republicans hate
republicans i don't care supporting this makes you an absolutely morally corrupt, ethically bankrupt, illegal criminal, and a
despicable despot who absolutely supports the use of violence and the monopoly of government force
to destroy the lives of people who don't align with the political ideology. That's all you are.
You're nothing more. Don't pat yourself on the back. Don't think you're on the right side of history, you're a disgusting person. I would never, ever, ever,
regardless of the timeline, regardless of the politics of people involved,
based on my experience in the government and my fear of what goes on on the inside,
ever support the use of police state tactics like this, the spying on of political people
and the wiretapping of political people
for clearly nothing other than a political agenda.
I don't care what the party's involved in.
You should be ashamed of yourself if you support this.
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This story has me fired up too.
I addressed this a couple weeks ago, and it's resurfaced again due to an op-ed, a wonderful op-ed written in the Wall Street Journal today by Heather McDonald who does some terrific work on criminal justice.
And she's just a really fantastic writer.
writer. And she has an op in the Wall Street Journal today about a piece by a UPenn professor,
University of Pennsylvania, who wrote a piece, Joe, talking about... Now, let me quote this to be exact. There's been a big uproar by the left. They're on fire about this piece. Now, I'm going
to read you the controversial ideas she wrote. Her name is Amy Wax. She's a UPenn professor who wrote about these highly controversial ideas and liberals are losing their collective about it.
Okay.
It's a quote from Heather McDonald's piece in the journal today.
To the list of forbidden ideas on American college campuses and bourgeois norms such as hard work.
Whoa.
Self-discipline. Oh, my is oh my god marriage and respect for a thought wait hard work self-discipline marriage and respect for authority
liberals are losing their mind okay go on last month two law professors published an op-ed in
the philadelphia inquirer calling for a revival of the cultural script that prevailed in the 1950s and still does among affluent Americans.
Here's a quote from the Philly Inquirer piece.
Joe, this is highly, highly controversial material.
Liberals, I'm not kidding, Joe.
They're drawing up petitions to get this woman out of the classroom.
The professor who wrote this, the dean of the university writes and is claiming this.
This is a this is contemporaneous with white supremacy, therefore alleging a connection.
Here's the cultural script she thinks we should all be talking about.
Not and not the other alternative to it.
She says. Very controversial.
Get married before you have children and strive to stay married for their sake.
Oh, my.
What is she trying to do?
That's insane.
This is nuts, Joe.
This is absolutely crazy.
She says, wait, get a load of this one.
Get the education you need for gainful employment.
Work hard and avoid idleness.
Avoid.
Dude.
Dude.
I can't listen to this, Dan.
Did you?
You know, there was a comedy skit years ago about the thousand ways to use the word dude.
Did you ever see this one?
I think I have.
It's funny.
It's like, you know, you're watching a horror movie and there's a guy around a corner in
a Friday the 13th hockey mask with a machete and you're in the house alone and you're ready to
peek around the corner and you're like, dude, because you're afraid he's going to be there.
And then there's like the quizzical dude. Like someone says something to me like, dude,
like that was the greatest comedy skater. This is one of those,
dude, really? This is controversial. Let me get this straight. Get married, work hard, avoid idleness.
Okay, wait, there's more.
More controversial.
This goes to the intellectual vacuum
that has become the pathetic, disturbing,
now, due to Antifa, violent far left.
She says, eschew substance abuse and violence.
What? Um, eh, what? eschew substance abuse and violence what um yeah what this is so we should be recommending what
that people take on substance abuse and crime i don't she says eschew substance of as she says
the weakening of these traditional norms has contributed to today's low rates of uh uh
workforce participation lagging educational levels widespread opioid abuse, the professors argued.
Folks, liberals are losing their mind.
There is a petition on one of these college campuses now again to get her banned from teaching.
The deans of the school said that this is contemporaneous with white supremacy.
All right.
I got it.
I got it.
supremacy. All right. I got to like, I really, I can't deal with Paula again today. She gets upset when I do too many angry liberal shows. She does. She's like, I'm going to break it up.
There's a reason here, folks. There's a why here. Now, for those of you who think that
there may be some credibility to this, I want you to
understand that radical far leftists understand that what the author is saying is true. They're
not stupid. Don't for a second, I'm begging you as a listener of my show, do not for a second buy
into the fact that the, or any assertions that these liberals are dumb. These people are not
dumb. They are are not dumb.
They are very bright.
They understand exactly what they're doing,
and they understand that the promotion of hard work,
of marriage, of stable families, of avoiding drug abuse,
they understand that all this stuff will lead to a successful society.
But what does it also lead to, Joe?
Let me ask you this.
What do people who are poor, who may not have jobs jobs people who may not have a high level of education people who are some who are dependent on drugs what is their ultimate
backstop i mean if you're a democrat what they depend on the state the state yes i i shouldn't
you know i shouldn't ever you always come through for me in a clutch but i gotta tell you i got a
little nervous
because I was afraid I wasn't setting that up right.
Yes, the state.
Of course the state.
Folks, the liberals promote victimology and victim culture.
In other words, oh, we get hard work.
People don't work.
If you don't work hard, it's not your fault.
No, it is your fault.
No, it is your fault. No, it is your fault.
I'm really sorry.
Just like the social security show that drives people crazy.
I'm sorry.
I'm not here to BS you if you're a liberal or even if you're a, you know, a Democrat
leaning left.
Not working hard is your fault.
There is nobody that can make you work hard, but you.
Making people work hard is servitude you have to work hard that is your fault and the minute liberals start promoting these values
there's nobody to blame substance abuse that's not your fault it's the promotion of
of the pharmaceutical industry you know what substance? Substance abuse, I'm sorry. I have this
in my family. Yes. Is there a biochemical component to it? Yes. Is there some physiological component
to it? Yes. But don't, I'm not going to fall into this. It's a disease. It is a choice. Okay.
I'm sorry. It is a choice. Cancer is a disease. Putting a pill in your mouth or smoking a joint or snorting cocaine or mainlining heroin
is a choice. It is a volitional act. The fact that you are predisposed to do it because of
some biochemical or biological propensity for addiction in your family, I don't deny that.
I don't deny that your situation, Joe, is more difficult than others. I don't because some other
people just aren't prone to addiction.
No matter how many times you put a couple lines of cocaine in front of them, they're not going to do it.
There's a biochemical signal in your head that pushes you in a way it doesn't push other people.
I don't doubt that.
And I don't mean to discredit your fight.
And I'm not judging you.
Don't mistake this.
I'm living through this right now in my family.
So I don't need any lectures.
But don't tell me for a second this isn't a choice. It is a choice. You know, folks,
my wife's going to kill me, but it's all right. It's important and you matter to me.
I've got a lot of fights in my life. I've had a ton of them. Really, there were areas I've got a lot of fights in my life I've had a ton of them I really there were areas I've been very weak in my life
and I
to this day it pains me
I mean it does
I say to you all the time
you know I'm a sinner
because I mean that
I may use that term very deliberately
I'm constantly trying to correct my
when I pray I pray very deliberately.
I say the Our Father,
because those are the words Jesus gave us,
and those words mean something.
But a lot of my prayers are extemporaneous,
but they're spoken from the heart,
and I pray constantly,
Father, make me a better man tomorrow than I was today.
Please move me back to that righteous path.
Because the temptation for envy, greed, lust, rage, anger, it's always there.
I'm not in a position here to morally lecture any of you,
but there are temptations out there all the time.
And folks, it is hard.
It is really hard to avoid a lot of this nonsense in your life.
But things have to matter to you, and you have to make conscious choices.
You have to make real choices
to do the right thing.
And an excuse can't be,
well, oh, you know what?
Oh, it's just a guy thing
or a family thing
or a drug thing
or a history of drugs.
That's not an excuse.
Liberals want to push that excuse on you
because they want to blame it on other people
as an avenue to move the state and state control back into your life
that is why they're going wild over this that is why they're losing their mind over
a woman highlighting the fact that if you stay married if you have children and you're and you're
you're faithful to your wife you're faithful to your kids, you're faithful to your kids, you get your kids an education,
you go in school and you work hard.
The minute you start to propose those values on a mass scale and suggest to people
the obvious, Joe, the obvious,
that this is the path forward.
This is the path to a collective better future,
to steal the left's own term.
The idea that the state can help you do that or that you've been a victim of some dangerous
Republican and conservative movement and the liberal democratic state is going to help
you goes away.
Folks, this is a big, big piece.
I will put the piece in the show notes.
Forgive me if it's a subscriber only.
I can't help that at the journal.
I'm not, I don't think it is.
It'll be in the show notes at the Journal. I don't think it is.
It'll be in the show notes at Bongino.com today.
It is a really, really good piece by Heather MacDonald.
And it sums up to you why I am so passionate against this fight,
excuse me, for this fight against liberal ideology.
Because as I've said to you repeatedly, it's not that this victimology doesn't help people.
It doesn't.
But folks, surprisingly,
that's not the pernicious part of it I'm worried about.
It's that victimology and liberal ideology
actively harms you.
It actively hurts people
by promoting the idea
that there's no individual control over their life,
that they are the victim of outside circumstances,
that outside circumstances, those circumstances can only be changed
by elected leaders, liberal visionaries using air quotes, and politicians.
When you put all of that aside and you say to yourself,
I'm not working hard.
I haven't taken my marriage seriously.
I haven't focused on my kids. I decided to take drugs. I haven't worked hard in school.
I screwed this up. That is the first step towards saying, I can fix this. I can fix this.
fix this. I can fix this. Not Nancy Pelosi, not Donald Trump, not Bernie Sanders, not George W. Bush. I can fix this. It's the only way forward, folks. It's an important piece. Liberals are
losing their minds over this for a reason. Don't ever forget what I told you on this one. I'm
telling you, this is really important stuff.
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So I get mixed feedback on the economic stories, folks,
but this one's really important, all right?
I love economics and I'm passionate about it,
but the Fed has finally decided how to unwind its balance sheet.
Now, without getting too wonky about this,
this is a topic I bring up often.
During the height of the financial crisis,
the Federal Reserve decided it would be a good idea.
The Federal Reserve prints money.
It's called Federal Reserve notes.
Look in the front of your dollars or your 20s or your fives, whatever.
They have a monopoly power over printing money.
So someone at the Fed thought it would be a good idea to print money,
I kid you not, and go out and buy government bonds.
So you have this quasi-government agency, which it is.
I don't care what anybody tells you.
The Federal Reserve, it has a monopoly printing power of money, printing money and going out
and giving the government the money to buy bonds.
So the government gives it a bond.
So they have about $4 trillion in bonds.
They have, to give you exact numbers, they have $1.7 trillion, $2.4 trillion in U.S.
Treasuries they bought with printed money, and $1.7 trillion in mortgages.
Folks, this is a big deal.
U.S. Treasuries they bought with printed money and $1.7 trillion in mortgages.
Folks, this is a big deal.
It's a big deal because they're holding on to these mortgage bonds now and these treasury bonds and are having a hard time figuring out what to do with it.
So they released a statement recently.
It says, okay, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to work up to releasing about $50 billion in these bonds a month. Now, there's a really good example I read today in a journal piece about what this means.
And I've kind of explained this before using bagels, but the whole market is better.
Here's why we're having a real problem right now.
So the government could print money.
So the government did print money through the Fed to buy its own assets.
Imagine if this happened in your neighborhood, right?
And what they wanted to do is they wanted to prop up the prices of bonds.
Forget, just leave it at that.
The why, we'll leave for another show. Okay. Because we don't have a lot of bonds. Forget, just leave it at that. The why, we'll leave for another show.
Okay.
Because we don't have a lot of time.
But the government, the federal government,
wanted to prop up the prices of bonds
because the prices of bonds
are inversely related to interest rates.
So by propping up the prices,
they would keep interest rates low,
which would make it easy for people to get loans.
Make sense?
Because they move in inverse.
They move the opposite.
Right.
I know you know what inverse means, but you get my point.
So imagine this if they did this in the real estate market.
Because with the bond market, people get confused because prices and interest rates move in
the opposite direction.
It screws people up.
Financial assets, it gets complicated.
But imagine this in simpler terms.
Let's say the government wanted to prop up the price of your house.
Okay.
And 50% of the houses in your neighborhood were for sale
joe if 50 of the houses in your neighborhood were for sale and no one was buying those prices are
going to take a pretty huge tumble yeah pretty darn fast because all of a sudden it's going to
be like all right it's been on the market for six months all right i want 200 i want 190 i want 180
i want 160 i want 150 the government said well we got to fix this. Instead of letting the
price signal readjust, which it should have,
they said, we have to fix this price
interest rate problem right now.
So we have to buttress the bond market.
So we're going to come in and we're going to buy up those houses
to stabilize the
housing market. Oh,
hey, great idea, right?
Sounds wonderful. Liberals love this
thing. So did some misguided, dopey Republicans who have no idea what they're talking about.
They were like, this is great.
The government came in, Joe, bought up all the houses, and now it's holding the houses.
Nobody lives there.
But it bought them.
It bought them at the asking price.
So say the 50% of the house, they all wanted $200,000.
So now your neighborhood, everything's fine and dandy.
Prices have stabilized.
What's the problem, Joe?
Who owns the house?
Yeah, not you.
The government.
What the hell are they going to do with the houses?
That's been, I've been bringing this up on the show forever.
They have all these bonds, just like they have the houses.
What are they going to do with the bonds?
The same thing they're going to do with the houses.
They got to get rid of them.
So now what happens when they get rid of the houses, Joe?
They got to start
selling the house again. Now, all of a sudden, just when prices stabilize, oh, why are all these
houses for sale on my block? Because nobody owned them. The government owned them. So now the
government is unleashing this torrent of bonds. They're saying they're going to do 50 billion a
month, which granted, I understand here, compared to the 4 trillion they own
now between mortgage bonds and treasury bonds is not a lot.
But the problem here, Joe, is this thing is going to screw up and distort the market because
no one's ever done this before.
Understood.
At this, nobody knows what's going to happen.
Folks, there's no historical precedent for this.
This was a really bad idea that can only get worse.
Here's what's going to happen here, right?
Number one, these low interest rates, the problem with it, because remember, prices,
by trying to stabilize the price, you lower the interest rate by trying to bump the price up.
Prices of bonds, again, they move in the opposite direction for a lot of reasons.
As prices go up, interest rates go down.
As interest rates go up, prices go down.
So by the government trying to keep the price of houses up or the price of bonds in this prices go up, interest rates go down. As interest rates go up, prices go down. So by the government
trying to keep the price
of houses up
or the price of bonds
in this case,
they kept interest rates low.
Now what happened with that?
The stock market went up.
Well, why did the stock market go up?
Because people couldn't
invest in bonds
because the interest rates
were low, Joe.
And the prices were high.
The interest rates were low
because the government
drove them down
because it kept the price up. So there was no yield. So what did people do? They said, well, I'm not going to
invest in that crappy interest rate. I'm going to go throw my money in the stock market. Why am I
telling you this, folks? Listen, this is not an investment show, okay? I don't do investment
advice. I'm happy to share with you my investments, but I bought a little bit of gold.
I got a little bit in equities.
I got a little bit in specific stocks and a lot in index funds and a lot in cash right now.
Because I am very worried that the minute this taper starts to happen and they start to let those houses,
or in this case, bonds, Joe, get back on the market and prices start to fall again and interest rates go up,
what are people going to do? They're
going to say, well, I can get a higher interest rate and more security by getting out of the
stock market and going buying a bond or a house instead. Be careful. Not telling you what to do
with your money. Just be careful. Secondly, this has been absolutely crushing savers out there
because by their efforts to keep the prices up of bonds, again, interest rates go
down and prices go up. Well, when interest rates go down, savers, Joe, mostly older folks who are
living off fixed incomes, haven't been making a dime. They've been getting crushed. So this may
actually benefit the middle class and savers by interest rates going up, but it has a really,
really heavy potential to hurt the housing market and the stock market. Just be careful.
But I'll put that piece as an interesting Bloomberg piece.
I'll put in the show notes today how people have this all wrong, economists, about this.
And you can take a look at it.
It's a pretty good piece.
All right.
Let's see.
What else?
Oh, hey, one last thing here.
I got a couple of stories I want to get to tomorrow.
One on two liberal policies that are just, again, not helping but blowing up in people's faces.
One about trying to get people low-income housing that's actually benefiting rich home builders and not people with low-income housing.
No surprise there.
And another one about tree-thinning efforts where they're trying to thin out the trees to prevent forest fires.
And liberals are actually causing more forest fires.
But no worries, libs.
Keep it up.
But I'm not going to have enough time today to hammer those.
But I wanted to finish up with one, maybe this other one too.
This DACA thing.
So these DACA recipients yesterday, did you see this, Joe?
Nancy Pelosi, liberal Democrats, giving a speech,
and these DACA recipients interrupt the speech and start screaming and yelling.
I did a hit on Fox about it this morning.
I just want to say quickly to these guys, what kind of stupid strategy is this?
You're in the country illegally.
That's not in question.
Are there tough cases here?
Of course.
Are they human beings?
Yes, they should be treated as such.
But you're here illegally in violation of the law.
You have actually broken the law by being in the United States.
And now not only are you making demands upon the U.S. taxpayer and demands on legal status
when you didn't do it the right way.
But now you're your only friend and ally, the Democrats.
I shouldn't say only you got hack Republicans who don't stand for the rule of law either.
But your only ally who's being loud and boisterous about it in this case, Nancy Pelosi.
And you attack her. What kind of dumb strategy?
I said on Fox this morning, if four-dimensional chess
is the sign of strategic brilliance,
one-dimensional checkers isn't,
this is possibly the dumbest strategy
I've ever heard in my life.
Let's scream down Nancy Pelosi
at a political rally.
Good move.
I mean, what?
Really, the damage you've done
to your cause is incalculable.
And one more last story
I thought was interesting
from Axios today.
This guy's an old political guy who started this website they have a uh an email list and on their email list today they say listen there's a problem developing around trump and i
found this interesting because i've heard this on a few conservative listservs i email this i i'm on
they said joe who surrounds trump right now is more important than who surrounded people
and presidents in the past.
Now, I'm not saying this, they're saying this.
They're saying, listen, he's not,
I think everybody gets this,
he's not ideological, Trump.
He's a dealmaker.
He's not ideological.
He's not a diehard ideological conservative.
He was a Democrat at one point.
But he's not ideological.
There's not really strong ideological underpinnings.
He's a dealmaker who wants to get things done.
So the premise of it is who he surrounds himself with is more important than it was in past
presidents because the last person basically to leave the room can influence him in a direction
that other presidents wouldn't have gone.
And the fear among some conservatives out there is that the last person leaving the
room are saying things to him that are not conservative.
You know, don't give tax cuts to the rich.
We have to get these DACA kids taken care of.
So they were saying that the departure of Bannon
and a lot of these, you know, Mike Flynn early on,
a lot of these people who would have been associated
with conservative, well, maybe populism too
in some respects, that them being God
has left the establishment in charge.
They bring up one other point on that.
They say that, and you see it because the only time you see Trump tweeting things that
do not align with what the establishment wants him to right now is after hours when he's
not basically in the White House, he's in the residence.
And the media manager over there, Dan Scavino, who is not an establishment guy, is basically controlling the Twitter account.
So the point he's trying to make is that the White House may be getting taken over by swamp rats.
And after hours, the media account is a reflection of Scavino's more non-anti-establishment leanings.
And I just found that really interesting how Axios pointed that out.
And folks, the departure ban may have been a really bad thing for us. We need some, I don't agree with Steve on everything,
especially the trade approach, but I think having an anti-establishment voice in the White House
would have been important. And frankly, folks, there really aren't many left anymore. So thanks
again for tuning in. I really appreciate it, folks. I will see you all tomorrow. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show. Get more of Dan online anytime at conservativereview.com.
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