The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 564 Liberals Are Getting Worried
Episode Date: October 9, 2017In this episode - The NFL “Take a Knee” protests have been a catastrophe. Look at these astonishing poll numbers. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/shock-poll-nfl-now-least-liked-sport-core-fan...s-down-31/article/2636837?utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Washington%20Secrets&utm_source=Washington%20Examiner:%20Washington%20Secrets%20-%2010/09/17&utm_medium=email Are the liberal claims of “systemic oppression” based on the real world, or based on a media-Hollywood-academia-fabricated world? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/racial-politics-democrats-brought-the-coals-trump-fanned-the-flames/article/2636614?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Examiner+Today&utm_source=StructureCMS The Vice President takes a strong stand against the anti-American NFL protests. https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/10/pence-leaves-nfl-game-in-protest-after-players-kneel-during-national-anthem/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+%28Le%C2%B7gal+In%C2%B7sur%C2%B7rec%C2%B7tion%29 A prominent Democrat just made the outrageous claim that “there have been more mass shootings than days of the year.” I debunk this nonsense in the show. https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-there-really-more-mass-shootings-than-days-in-the-year-1507487568 Another prominent Democrat admits that no law would have stopped the Las Vegas attacker. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dianne-feinstein-talks-to-face-the-nation-after-las-vegas-shooting/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Producer Joe, how are you today?
All systems go, babe.
You got it, man.
Thanks to everyone who tuned in to Rough Cuts this weekend, our first version.
Rough Cuts won, yeah, a tremendous number of downloads, especially for a weekend.
I said to Joe, we may have to switch over to Rough Cuts and make the politics second there.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
I love this stuff.
I enjoy what I do.
I would never give this up.
But it did do incredibly well.
I think far exceeded our expectations.
And I got, I don't know, maybe 300 emails or so on it yeah it was a lot
so i read all of them i responded to most of them and uh appreciate the feedback all right let's uh
jump right back into this so we had this big uh you know controversy this weekend with i mean when
i say controversy i mean controversy when i say controversy i usually mean controversy on the left
i'm not talking about like an actual controversy.
I'm talking about liberal generated controversy.
Right.
Fabricated controversy.
The vice president, Mike Pence, goes to the Indianapolis Colts NFL football game.
The San Francisco 49ers, they were playing the Colts.
They was in Indianapolis and the San Francisco 49ers, 20 plus members of the team decided to do what they always do.
These guys are going to kneel at the national anthem, basically crapping all over our flag.
Disrespect the country.
Disrespect the anthem.
And the vice president leaves.
Applause.
Good job, Mike Pence.
Yes, sir.
Appreciate you standing for something.
Nice work.
I think most Americans agree with you based on the horrendous polling the NFL's been getting lately.
It's now.
Ain't no Pence on the fence, babe.
And not on his.
He walked right out of there.
Good for him.
It is now the least favorably viewed professional sport out there, the NFL.
So good job, NFL.
Round of applause.
Well done.
You've now alienated large majorities of working class Americans, vets, police officers, civil servants, middle class workers,
upper class workers and employees, lower income folks,
and most importantly, diehard NFL fans.
So good job, NFL.
You guys are tremendous.
Nice work alienating your fan base.
Now, I tweeted out about this, and of course the liberals go nuts
whenever I tweet about this.
Some kooky victim card obsessed Lo looney tune got back to me.
I was in the gym.
It was like 5 o'clock in the morning.
I'm trying to work out.
I've got to deal with dopey liberals at 5 o'clock in the morning.
It's infuriating.
I'm trying to get my set of Zercher squats in.
Folks, it's 5.30.
I'm doing Zercher squats at 5.30 in the morning.
I'm like this. For those of you listening to the weekend show.
I'm on rep 16 with 225 pounds in the crook of my elbow squatting this thing
at 5.30 in the morning.
And I seriously am in such a state of oxygen deprivation
that I'm like seeing stars.
I'm like, what?
This dude's trying to talk to me too by the way and i'm like
i cannot even i'm not making this up this is not hyperbole for effect this is actually me i'm like
trying to respond to the guy he sees i can't breathe too by the way
nice guy but he i don't know if he saw me doing this set before.
Point is, I had to deal with liberals.
Now, they are obsessed with it.
The liberals are not all, but the good majority, especially the radical left, is obsessed with
the fact that they are getting their collective butts handed to them on this NFL thing.
Folks, I did a show about this a couple weeks ago.
Remember this one, Joe?
That they are in a total panic.
Yeah.
Because the whole entire premise. listen to me, folks.
Please, please listen to me on this.
The entire premise of liberalism is getting you to believe that Looney Tunes, Wacko, fringe positions held by the looniest among us are in fact mainstream.
And they do it by fear.
are in fact mainstream.
And they do it by fear.
If I were to tell you,
I hate that I have to keep bringing this up,
but it's so critical you understand this.
Because once you get over the fear,
like I did a long time ago,
and you start speaking out, Joe,
there's a sense of empowerment,
like I'm back.
We're on the right side of this for once.
If liberals are at a meeting of 100 people people and nobody knows anybody's political affiliation
there's a couple liberal troublemakers in there like to take a knee crowd that wants to crap on
the flag right here's what they do someone in the meeting you know the liberal goes that two plus
two doesn't equal four it equals five and if you say otherwise you're a racist and everybody's like
98 people in the meeting like what do we do if we say two plus two equals four, they'll call us a racist.
What do we do then?
What do we do then?
Everybody freaks out.
Nobody wants to be called a racist.
I mean, it speaks to how far our countries come on race relations show
that calling someone a racist is like the worst thing you could call them
outside of maybe murderer or child molester. And frankly frankly it's kind of up there with the two i mean that's how
bad it is so people it's all fear does that make sense my example that yeah you know it's not true
like the people in the crowd are like wait wait two plus two four like this is not advanced calculus
this is basic advanced calculus.
This is basic common sense. You'll find you're not alone when you come up with the answer of four.
Most people in the room are going to know it's four and say, yeah, it's four.
Yes.
By the way, someone asked me this week on an email if you had a podcast.
That's how popular you're getting now.
I'm going to forward you the email.
I'll find it.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm not kidding.
Yes.
Does Joe have a podcast?
Maybe you should start one, the Armacost Hour
or something. Who knows? Right? We should
put it under conservative review. Maybe I'll pitch that to him
today. You could do it on music.
No, maybe you could do it on like music
and stuff. You're a cool cat like that.
But the point you made is right.
The minute someone speaks up
and they see it. So you're in this crowd
of 100 people and some brave
soul speaks up and goes,
Excuse me?
I've taken basic math, and I know that two apples plus two apples equals four apples.
They get up because they're the loudest.
Remember, liberals, why are liberals the loudest?
They're the loudest in this meeting of people here because they own the media,
they own academia, and they own the culture wars in Hollywood. They have the loudest megaphone folks is there a louder megaphone you have the
press you have hollywood and you have the schools where is there's no louder megaphone so they're in
this crowd they have the loudest megaphone you have nothing you have no sound amplification
device at all and what does everybody start doing half the people didn't even hear you say two plus
two equals four all they see is a couple of liberals on the stage with megaphones going
there's a racist in the crowd there he is and everybody's like get him get the bug spray
right get the rain rain remember that show rain and the bug falls over the cartoon bug and he's like ah this is how they work it is fear
they operate strictly on fear now it's critical you get that because when everybody in the room
starts to say wait two plus two equals four and I think so too all of a sudden the 98 people who know that happens
to be a fact and the two who are just completely blind idiots typically the radical leftists in
the room all of a sudden it becomes the reverse the two liberals who use the megaphone for power
are now shouted down by the collective voice of the 98 people in a room and go wait that's the
dumbest thing I've ever heard they rule by fear and they rule by fear with fringe positions men
in the women's room the united states systemically oppresses people people are like wait what
what do you mean it's systemically impresses people i don't think systemic means what you
think it means look up systemic on like any dictionary online or in paperback or hardcover as or relating to a system.
So you're telling me you're Joe, just to be clear on this.
I'm not sure if I covered this before, but it doesn't matter.
It's worth repeating again.
Again, you're in the room.
You say something patently ridiculous.
Two plus two equals four.
You then shout down anybody who says you say two plus two equals five. You shout down anyone who says two plus two equals four. You then shout down anybody who says, you say two plus two
equals five. You shout down anyone who says two plus two equals four. I'm calling them a racist.
And then all of a sudden you hope that the mob stays quiet and doesn't realize that what you're
saying is ridiculous, not the person who stood up. They do this now. The NFL is a perfect example.
And this is why they're going nuts and why every time you tweet about it, if you do,
and you have a following, you will get attacked by everyone on the left at the same time because once the veneer of popular
support is gone joe liberals have nothing because it's a veneer it's an act it's an act they don't
have popular support they're nuts and what's happening now is the NFL polling data is starting to come out. Viewership is down.
Ticket sales are down.
Merchandising is being hurt.
The brand is being destroyed.
Folks, unlike liberals, I will back up what I say.
This isn't the 2 plus 2 equals 5 show.
This is the 2 plus 2 equals 4 show.
You need the data?
Okay, go to my show notes today.
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Put out a piece this morning.
Just came out with a poll.
Credible survey.
Good survey.
Reliable company.
Joe, asking people in general, I should say, about favorability, unfavorability ratings about the major sports.
So we're talking about major sports by viewership.
I mean, I personally like lacrosse and other sports, but we're talking about hockey, baseball, football.
Hockey, baseball.
Am I missing one there?
Basketball.
Oh, basketball.
Yeah, right.
Basketball.
Sorry. How do I miss that?
Okay.
Favorable ratings for the NFL
pre, you know, quote, take a knee, right?
Before this Kaepernick garbage.
57%.
Down to 44% now.
Folks, that's a huge,
huge drop in one year.
Huge.
You went from an overwhelming majority of people who view the NFL favorably,
57% to 44%.
That's just a fact, Libs.
Okay?
Stick with the two plus two equals five.
I'm going to be the one in the room that speaks up and goes,
I don't think so.
You can scream at your bullhorn to me on your social media all you want.
You think you're intimidating me.
You're out of your, absolutely out of your mind.
You have no idea where you're going with that
one. All right. Unfavorable
ratings. The highest now amongst
professional sports. The unfavorable rating
for the NFL has now risen to an unbelievable
40%. That is astonishing.
You ask 10 people, do you
view the NFL unfavorably?
And 40% say yes.
Or how do you view the NFL?
40%, I should say to be more precise, 40% say unfavor Or how do you view the NFL? 40%, I should say, to be more precise.
40% say unfavorably.
Those are actually two different things.
I had to be very careful with this.
40%, the highest among professional sports.
Even worse, Joe.
The NFL, in one of the dumbest,
colossally dumbest,
epically stupid business decisions
in American history.
Joe, would you say, this is not a trick question, by the way, because I know sometimes I set
you up with these trick questions.
I'm not doing that.
Would you say that men age 34 to 54 are a target audience for the NFL?
I would, yeah.
I kind of would say so, yeah.
I mean, I say it's not a trick question because the question's so obvious that sometimes I
ask Joe and he's like, wait, this can't be like, you'd have to be an idiot to say no of course men 34 34
to 54 this is where it gets even worse for the nfl of men 34 to 54 the favorability ratings were
73 percent pre-colin uh kaepernick take a knee they dropped to 42%. That is a 30-point drop.
31, to be clear and absolutely present.
31-point drop.
That's incredible.
Even worse, Joe.
The unfavorability ratings, 34 to 54,
rose from 19%,
this is even worse,
to 47%.
Almost half of your target audience thinks your product sucks.
Good job.
I mean, again, these are just the numbers, folks.
Look them up yourself.
I will link the article.
I never say anything.
I can't back up.
Go look it up.
You understand how this is all based in fear now.
Now, this is going somewhere
i didn't bring this up to talk about the nfl today i wanted to bring this up today talk about
a larger topic and that's the propagandizing effect of the media and the fact that the liberals own
the media they own academia and they own hollywood they own the you know the three musketeers right
now of liberal stupidity and these three musketeers of liberal stupidity have the biggest megaphones in the room and they enable fear they enable fear by telling you by telling
you things that are factually incorrect that don't align with the real world and getting you believe
that the real what's happening in the real world isn't really happening and they suppress opposing
thought by intimidation now i can prove this to you.
There was another interesting piece.
I don't like part of it.
It's by Tim Carney.
I'll put it in the show notes.
It's a good piece in the Washington Examiner.
Some portions of it. Some I think take
I'm going to be diplomatic.
I think some take a very
because I like Tim
Carney, but I think he takes a very jaded view of the Trump administration and paints a picture that's not necessarily correct, especially as it deals with Charlottesville.
But there's it's a longer piece and it's about racism in America, how Democrats started, you know, basically through the coals in the fire.
And he wants to put some blame on Trump for making the fire worse. I disagree with that completely.
I don't think it, frankly, it mattered who won the presidential election.
The Democrats are obsessed with stoking
the flames of racial division.
It just doesn't matter.
Trump's just a convenient target
because he's not a focus group tested politician.
He speaks from, you know, he shoots from the hip.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think that just bothers the left
because the left is used to intimidating people
with their bullhorn and Trump just doesn't care.
So I disagree with Carney now, but he has some numbers in there.
And the numbers point to the disconnect between the real world and what modern liberals think.
Like liberals think they understand that their core.
Let me rephrase because I don't want to confuse anyone.
Liberals understand they are reasonably intelligent people they understand that their belief system that the world is systemically oppressing them specifically the united states that
you know this is a horrible place that capitalism is an imperialist endeavor we should all pay higher
taxes liberals understand that their court this is all crap. That I know. Why do I know that? Because liberals say they believe higher
taxes are a force for public good, yet they don't pay them voluntarily. You know, conservatives,
Joe, generally believe charity is a good cause, like me and my wife do, and we give money there.
No one forces us to do it. Yet when you ask liberals to voluntarily pay higher taxes,
a claim they make, higher taxes will be a force for public good, they don't do it.
You know, when you make claims about,
you know, things like Obamacare,
oh, well, single payer's great,
the government should run healthcare.
It's just fascinating that liberal politicians
didn't even support Obamacare for themselves.
They worked around the Grassley Amendment
to get an Obamacare exemption for themselves.
You know, liberals talk about things like,
well, you know, it's important that we get a
really vigorous strong public education system for our kids and we don't have school choice yet
they choose to send their kids outside of the public education system when they get money
folks liberals are a walking bunch of talking point hypocrites you know we hate guns we can't
stand guns and yet most of them have armed bodyguards like michael moore remember that time
i mean they're they're hypocrites so my point that i'm trying to set up here is that they at their at
their core they understand their entire worldview is complete garbage and junk now how do i know
that let me read you a little quote from carney's piece about some actual polling on racism in
america here's a quote insofar as attitudes towards race can be measured, white racism against blacks is fading.
Support for interracial marriage has climbed from 4% to 87%.
The Economist reports that racially and ethnically motivated hate crimes reported to the FBI,
Joe, fell 48% between 1994 and 2015.
Its article headlined,
Racist Behavior is Declining in America,
concluded Americans as a whole are still moving away from bigotry.
Folks, there's more numbers in here.
I mean, I can read the entire piece to you.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to sum up what you need to know.
The point I'm trying to make here is that the real world data about the state of America and racism, no, and
let me be crystal clear on this again, because I know liberals have a tough time with facts and
things like that. And, you know, they love to mischaracterize what people say. It's all they
have. I'm not suggesting neither is Joe, because we've had conversations off the air and on the
air that racism doesn't exist at all. I'm simply suggesting you the state of race relations in America has gotten unbelievably
better than it.
I mean, obviously, there was in the era of slavery and even in the year of Jim Crow.
And now I think America largely systemically, the system, as we say, you know, is largely,
thankfully, relegated racism to the dark corners of society.
Now, how do I know that this is true again?
So you have the polling data there.
When you ask Americans if they're satisfied with their lives, Joe,
here's the number here.
This is interesting.
I found this in the Carney piece.
88% of black Americans say they're satisfied overall with their lives.
You may say oh well okay great
well what's interesting about that is that's the exact same number or well i shouldn't say exact
89 for whites but within the statistical margin of error it's almost the exact same number right
yeah that is interesting now but we'll contrast that show with this other figure this goes to
show you the power of the media bullhorn to get people to believe through fear that what's real is not in fact real 81 of black americans will still cite racism as a
significant problem in their lives it doesn't make sense folks the polling data the data on
facts and statistics the data says out there that 88 percent of of people who are black will say that
their lives that they are they're satisfied with their lives yet and by the way the data on uh race
relations on on on hate crimes all of that has gone gone down the society's gotten better on race
and yet 81 percent of people who are black will still say racism is a problem in their lives i'm
not suggesting some of that they're lying.
Many probably are telling the truth about isolated incidents they've had.
But the idea that the country is a systemically racist place
does not fit with the data at all.
You're just making it up.
It doesn't make any sense.
Now, there's a theory behind this that Carney puts out.
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Now, you may say to yourself, why is it then that liberals continue to do this,
to use their media bullhorn and academia and the culture to get people to believe that racism is a systemic
problem in other words joe we are a racist country and we can't get past it why does the media
academia liberalism why do they in hollywood and their culture why do they keep telling people this
well carney has some numbers in here which i had kind of known from experience, but not known the exact numbers. And the theory
is a good one. Overall, Joe, 48% of Democrats will categorize themselves as liberals. Black
Democrats, only 28% categorize themselves as liberals. Now, I noticed this when I was running
for office in Maryland, and I would knock on doors in Prince George's County, which is a largely black county. I noticed when I knocked on doors and was talking
to Democrats, you can tell their voter registration. You just can't tell who they voted for. Obviously,
it's a secret ballot. But when talking to them specifically about issues like abortion, religion,
the role of God in the culture, the role of God in the country, gay marriage, transgender bathroom usage.
Folks, this is not going to surprise any of you that regularly deal with people, people who are happen to be minority.
I mean, whether you have friends or you work with people or you just whatever it may be.
They are very conservative.
Black Democrats are only 28% liberal.
That is a far lesser population than the overall population of Democrats,
where 48% are liberal.
What does that have to do with any of this?
Joe, the only way to hide the liberal bent of the Democrat Party,
the liberal turn the Democrat Party has taken,
redistribution, men in the women's the Democrat Party has taken, redistribution,
men in the women's room, this love affair with gay marriage, the only way to hide that from black voters is to continue to propagandize them and make them believe that the system
is racist. Not that racism exists. We know that. But that the system is racist.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Does racist does that make sense yeah it sure does
the democrats don't want black voters to see what the party has become it's an interesting theory
he has in there and i i had only considered it and if like i said because i was knocking on doors
and i noticed myself that it just didn't make sense it didn't it didn't comport with reality
that i'm like gosh you know black voters are largely pro-life.
There are a lot of Christian black voters who believe in a man-woman marriage.
None of this makes any sense.
This is why the Democrats need this.
They need ultimately 80 to 90% of black voters to be voting Democrat to stay a quasi-national party, because they're not right
now, into the future. So the way they do it is by hiding, hiding the liberal turn the party has
taken, hiding it under this veneer of institutional systemic racism. And folks, the term systemic
racism is the reason this is, again, it's a fear of facts. The term systemic racism is the reason this is that this is again it's a fear of facts the term systemic
racism is a two plus two equals five term at that meeting i told you about it doesn't make sense
people at the meeting are like wait let me get this straight systemic means relating to the system
so you're suggesting to me that athletes who are paid millions of dollars to play a game are being oppressed by the system that enabled said athletes to make millions of dollars playing a game?
It doesn't make sense on its face.
That's a different argument than suggesting that said black athletes may have experienced racism at some point in their life.
Do you see what I'm saying, Joe?
Yeah.
No one's questioning that.
I don't know.
I'm not going to devalue your experiences at all.
You may be telling the truth about a whole bunch of things.
You may not.
But I take you at face value that over the course of your life, I have no doubt you may have had a hard time catching a cab.
You may have experienced racism in a job.
I don't doubt that these black athletes are telling the truth.
The problem Americans have with this, and the 2 plus 2 equals 5 moment, is when you take a knee to disrespect the flag,
and then you suggest to Americans that the entire system is somehow oppressing you
while you're making 10, 20, 30 times, 100 times what the average American makes to play a game.
The media does this.
The media are the ones that do this.
They get people to believe these numbers.
And that somehow have convinced black Americans, you know, 88% were satisfied with their lives.
But 81% say that this racism is a systemic problem.
Listen, these are hard things to talk about.
And liberals, by the way,
I'm not even remotely interested in liberal feedback
because they're not interested in a conversation.
They just fire back bombs at you.
But I'm talking to people who are genuinely interested
in quote, having a conversation about this.
Have you ever wondered why the disconnect?
You're a million dollar athlete
and you're convinced the system's kept you down?
You think that has anything to do with the bullhorn of hollywood the bullhorn of the media and the
bullhorn of academia now i had another direction to go with this because i saw these two tours two
stories about tim carney's story about how the polling on race relations joe is completely
disconnected from the reality and And I saw another story.
I thought, gosh, this is fascinating.
These two stories are perfectly tied in.
The other one's in the Wall Street Journal.
It's about, quote, mass shootings.
I got an email from a regular emailer.
He said, you know, don't call it mass shootings.
You're right.
That is a, you know, I hate it that we have to get into word games.
But you are correct.
That's a focus group tested talking point.
It's attack.
A guy was an attacker.
He fired a weapon.
But, you know, we don't call people, mow people down like mass drivers and, you know, with a car.
So but it's just again, it's a Democrat. They want to it's a Democrat focus group tested talking point.
They're always manipulating the language.
Even the term systemic oppression is a Democrat focus group tested talking point to get you to not do any deeper analysis of what's going on.
I mean, it's kind of like some liberal silly lib this morning
told me that I was mansplaining to her.
By the way, the minute you say that,
you're completely discounted as a fool.
So mansplaining.
Remember, people will die.
People are going to die.
That's their thing.
I mean, it's a way to distract you from having any real conversation.
This is what they do.
They throw out fancy terms and hyperbolic language to get you to avoid the facts.
Because remember, it's the fear of facts that keeps Democrats semi-relevant.
Now, in this Wall Street Journal piece, they break down a quote.
I'll put it in the show notes again today.
journal piece they they uh they break down a quote i'll put it in the show notes again today uh the author breaks down a uh a quote from a democrat lawmaker chris murphy a senator
from connecticut who said something so outrageous uh he should have been laughed off the stage the
minute he opened his mouth but he said this weekend joe already there have been more mass shootings
than days of the year so everybody in the the crowd hears two plus two equals five.
Say what?
Just like systemic oppression.
Like, wait, let me get this straight.
Two plus two equals five.
The system is oppressing you and you're paid millions to play a game.
You're in the crowd again.
Another liberal gets up and goes, there have been more mass shootings than days of the year.
Again, everybody in the crowd, the 98 people in the crowd who know this is crazy.
They're like, wait, wait, wait. did he just say two plus two equals five but they're all quiet because
if you open your mouth the liberals get up with the bullhorn through the media the act their
control over academia and the culture in hollywood joe and they scream this time it's not racist
they're like you're a murderer you love guns and you're like ah what oh shh everybody quiet now the liberals are talking
folks they're just making this up now i love when you all email me and you say where's the scam
well here's the scam in this number because remember there's always some element of statistical
manipulation every time a liberal tells you two plus two equals five you just have to pick it out this one's a beaut by the way so the fbi's official definition joe of a quote
mass shooting using their lingo is four or more victims in one location
pretty simple right pretty simple definition four or more victims in one location
now if we're not talking about the same thing,
do you understand how it's completely impossible
to have a debate?
In other words, if I'm talking about,
because I love analogies,
if I'm talking to you about the benefits of apples, right?
Apples are good for you.
They're good for your heart.
That's beans, actually.
You know where I'm going with that one.
Yeah, sure do.
But apples, right?
But apples are so good.
They're great for your so good they're great
for your eyes they're great for your heart oh the pigmentation in the skin of the apple is so
wonderful for you but joe say you're a new english speaker and you confuse the word you think i'm
talking about oranges the conversation is totally irrelevant i'm telling you how good apples are and
you go and buy more oranges yes i do do you see how if we don't agree on what we're talking about,
having any conversation is useless.
It's a waste of everybody's time.
Liberals do this on purpose.
This is intentional, Joseph.
They do this because they're afraid of facts.
They don't want you talking about
apples they want some people to think it's apples some people to think it's oranges some people to
think it's pomegranates some people to think it's tangerines because the facts are never on their
side they want you to believe two plus two equals five nobody in the crowds allowed to say two plus
two equals four so they do this on purpose and they confuse the terms intentionally so that when
someone says something
like this that's really dumb there have been more mass shootings in days of the year people are like
um yeah really are you sure about that now here's the scam i just told you what the fbi definition
was the quote joe mass shooting tracker which is a i mean this is unbelievable like liberals they
can never get it up the mass shooting tracker which is a i mean this is unbelievable like liberals they can never get it
the mass shooting tracker which is some liberal database they put together defines it completely
differently of course this is four or more people in one spree including the gunman himself and
anyone engaged by the police so let's get this straight let's get this straight. Let me get this straight. This is how you define a, quote, mass shooting.
Again, liberals never, ever
stop the propaganda, ever. They
can't get enough, right?
They define a mass shooting
if you're, let's say it's a robbery
with a firearm. So Joe, you're walking
down the street. God forbid some guy pulls
a gun on you, right? You're about to get robbed.
The police car pulls up, right?
The gunman shoots
shoots at you you get hit right the police shoot at him someone say gets hit by a stray round and
the cop gets hit that is a that's a mass shooting to them do you understand how many gang incidents
and how would fall under this definition but folks this, this is done on purpose. This is not an accident.
This is done on purpose to confuse you,
to make you to believe that there's this massive outbreak
of mass shootings all across the United States
despite the fact that regular street crime in many cases,
as tragic as it is, is included in this definition
so that when you're talking about apples,
I'm talking about oranges.
Does that make sense, Joe?
Yeah.
Now, how does this, why they do what they do?
They do it because they're, folks, just to be clear, because this is a detailed show today, and I'm sorry, but it's really important we get these points out.
Yeah, we're cool, we're cool.
Their goal, Joe, is strictly confusion.
Right.
Just like on the race issue.
They don't want you to believe race relations have gotten better
because they need black voters to vote for them.
And they know black voters generally don't like what the Democrats stand for.
So what do they push?
You guys are being discriminated against constantly.
The Republicans did it and we're going to help.
Secondly, they're confusing you on mass shootings
because they want you to believe there's a massive outbreak
of mass shootings in the United States
and that Democrats have the answer by gun control.
So they lie.
You're talking apples, they're talking oranges.
You're talking four or more people in one space.
They're talking four or more people in one spree,
including the gunman who may have killed himself and the police.
A totally unreasonable definition.
But when you're looking to inflate the numbers, that's what you do.
Now, why is this fascinating and how does this relate to the NFL story about how liberals rely on fear?
They rely on fear to confuse you and for you to confuse the statistics in the real world.
Again, racism is systemic.
They don't have any evidence anymore to back that up, that the system is racist.
Believe me, liberals and Republicans had data to back that up, you know, 50 and 60 years ago.
They don't have any evidence of that anymore.
So they lie.
So to do this, this is, let me just get to the numbers.
This is interesting.
When there is a Pew Research poll, Pew is a very credible operation, Joe.
Yes, they are. They asked Americans, right,
if they thought gun crime, gun violence,
was higher now than it was 20 years ago.
An astonishing 56% of Americans said yes.
Folks, that is completely incorrect.
That is the two plus two equals five moment.
Just like systemic oppression keeps people down.
We're millionaires playing football.
Two plus two equals five.
56% of Americans in the room believe that gun crime is higher now than it was 20 years ago.
You want the real numbers?
Although we have upwards of 100 million new guns since the 1990s in the United States, Joe.
Gun homicide is down by half since the 1990s.
Folks, listen to me.
Those are just the facts.
If you're a liberal listening and you disagree with that, I don't know what to tell you.
You're having your moment, your bullhorn moment, where you're on the stage making an ass out of yourself.
Gun crime is significantly up
it's such a huge problem actually it's been cut in half but no but i said it went up nobody cares
what you said nobody cares what you said is just not true liberalism is entirely a it is a system
where people are you're a living hypocrite we got to control guns but not my guns and not my body
guards we got to pay higher taxes but i my guns and not my bodyguards.
We got to pay higher taxes, but I don't want to pay higher taxes because you don't.
I have the numbers.
You don't.
I want single payer health care, but not for me.
I want public education only, but not for my kids.
You're a walking hypocrite.
And you are a walking hypocrite because you have been propagandized by the media.
Did I tie that together
right yeah this is my point in the beginning that this is why this nfl thing is so unbelievably
unpopular because everybody gets what you're saying is garbage they understand what you're
saying is just not true the system is oppressing me You're making millions of dollars to play football. The system is not oppressing you.
When you're telling people, oh my gosh, gun violence is out of control.
They do it through manipulation and they do it through the media bullhorn.
And they have actually 50% of Americans believing this.
Despite the fact that it's just not true.
It's just completely 100% made up.
Oh man, is it frustrating dealing with these people you know
i did get some comments by the way on rough cuts that people said joe they've never heard me so
relaxed i really do enjoy talking about that stuff i didn't even get y'all they love i got
the review i didn't get one negative comment so i really appreciate it not one show with you i
thought it was fun it was fun yeah and you know what paula said about it joe too with you
she's like you know joe was a perfect for, and you know what Paula said about it, Joe, too, with you?
She's like, you know, Joe is a perfect foil.
I know you know politics.
You got to deal with it four hours every morning at WCBM, too.
So Joe gets more politics than some politicians do.
But, you know, that really wasn't your bailiwick.
But Paula was interesting.
I was a little worried about it. You know, our audience gets into our inner heads.
I was a little worried about it.
Because you're, as a second banana,'m like is he gonna feel uncomfortable paula said
no joe was good because his you know you're as all i love working out stuff she was his kind of
the fact that i don't want to say he didn't you know enough but that you didn't know as much as
i did you asked reasonable questions she goes that i was asking too and that's my wife who i
talk about this stuff all the time too.
Like you asked that question
about rest periods
between sets.
She goes,
you know what's funny?
She goes,
I was thinking
about exactly as he said that.
So it was pretty good
and I think it's going to,
I think it's going to work well.
So we'll probably
add some more episodes
but I haven't even gotten into
like the self-defense stuff
and pying off
and you know,
ways to,
you know,
better,
good self-defense tips
and Paula said,
she goes,
you didn't even like
scratch the surface
of talking about diet and exercise.
And I love the Brazilian jujitsu
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dominate through the three musketeers of stupidity you know liberals uh you know liberal academia
hollywood uh and the culture wars and in the media those those three entities right how they get
people to believe things that are just factually incorrect and do not comport with what people
understand to be real one of them is on taxes as well.
And there's a great piece by Phil Graham in the Wall Street Journal today.
It lays out some just unbelievable facts about who are really paying the taxes in the country.
And one quick thing I wanted to get to, I'll cover that story tomorrow, but I've been getting
a lot of email about another podcast I listened to, which I think is really wonderful.
Zcon Talk by Russ Roberts.
It comes out once a week, comes out today, think is really wonderful. It's Econ Talk by Russ Roberts. It comes out once a week.
It comes out today, actually, on Monday morning.
It's wonky.
I mean, Russ is a very, very, very bright guy.
He works, I believe, at the Hoover Institution out of Stanford.
He has some libertarian leanings.
He's super smart.
It's a far different podcast than mine.
It's about 45 minutes to an hour long.
And there was a podcast he did a couple weeks ago that I've been getting tons of email on from people who had listened to it and listened to it because
i had recommended it they said sorry but if you end up banging the background folks there's like
if there's if that's there's people working all over my house so my apologies i got the sound
protection up but sometimes it seeps through and the premise of the interview is with uh
a french economist and the gist of this guy's argument, folks, the French economist, is that the United States is in the very unique position of having its collective wealth over the past couple of decades accumulate not only with the top 1%, but with the 1% and the wealthiest 10% of the top 1%, right?
Like really, really wealthy people.
We're talking about moving decimal points here, right?
It's an interesting piece because as Russ brings up halfway through the podcast, it
just doesn't seem to comport with reality.
Let me get this straight.
Over the last few decades, nobody's gotten any wealthier.
Matter of fact, the lower income categories of the middle class
have lost ground.
And Russ brings up
some great points.
Well, people have
flat screen TVs,
cell phones,
better cars,
bigger homes.
They may not be
the biggest homes, Joe,
but they're bigger
than they were.
And I've been getting
a ton of emails on this,
on this show,
saying, Dan, what gives?
I mean, the French economist,
Gabriel, I think it's Zuckman,
or Zuckman, is very convincing.
He is very convincing, and he's along the lines of the Piketty critique about the rich and basically the benefits of capital superseding the benefits of labor. The gist of it is the rich are getting
richer and the poor and the middle class are stagnating. First, let me give you just quickly
two problems with this. Number one, and Roberts hits on this,
household size.
Whenever you're measuring household income,
folks, I'm sorry, but throw the study out.
Throw the study out.
Because household income does not measure individuals.
And even worse, it doesn't measure individuals over time.
In other words,
an economic critique of household data
that studies data but doesn't study it longitudinally,
in other words, the same people over time. A frequent joke they make about stuff like that
is there's a statistic in New York, Joe, that a person's hit by a car every eight seconds in New
York. And you're like, wow, he must be in a lot of pain. It's not the same guy. We're not talking
about the same guy every eight seconds. I mean, that's right. When you hear that statistic,
it's not the same guy. You're clear on that, that's right. When you hear that statistic, it's not the same guy.
You're clear on that, right, Joe?
That's the problem with using household data, but not studying the same group of people over time.
In other words, when you're studying people who make $15,000 to $30,000, is it the same people?
No, it's different people.
So throw it out.
It doesn't matter.
What are you talking about?
You're talking about completely different people.
Were the poor people rich now?
I don't know. You're not following them. We. Were the poor people rich now? I don't know.
You're not following them.
We're just following groups.
I don't trust any of that, number one.
Number two, household data.
This is why this study is all screwed up
and doesn't comport with a lot of the other research in the area.
But again, the study's saying that,
well, the poor and the middle class have gone nowhere
and the rich have got wealthier.
When you measure it by households, well well how many people are in the household
joe that's kind of a as joe biden would say a bfd a big freaking deal because if the household
size amongst certain groups is increasing as the household size amongst other groups is decreasing
you're spreading money over different numbers of people you know what i'm saying so
think about it joe if you're saying well the poor have not made any money over the last 20 years and
they they've their conditions gotten worse because they're making the same hundred dollars they were
making 20 years ago well which poor well the household A. Well, how many people were in household A, you know, 20 years ago?
Well, two.
Well, how many people are in household A now?
Well, 100.
There's a different number of people in the household.
Does that mean 100 people are splitting up a dollar or two people are splitting up 50?
And the problem with this research, Joe, is is that household sizes this is why you get all kinds
of screwed up data here and the guy by the way the if you listen to the podcast the french
economist admits that they they can't control perfectly for it they can't there's no way
he admits it in some de facto fashion here that they have trouble with it if divorce let's say is higher in in uh in in the
people who are poor middle class which is the case and people who are poor middle class divorce
and high rate you have expanding or decreasing numbers of households the data is going to be
screwed up because you don't know if it's one person making a hundred dollars or a household
of a hundred people making a dollar they could have been poorer or grotesquely richer, right?
If one person is in a household, Joe, making $100,
or let's say 100, and that household, everybody leaves,
and now there's one person.
That guy was making $1 20 years ago.
That guy is now making $100 now because it's one person.
Right.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
You totally screwed up the data by using household data.
One more thing about this, too.
Roberts points out, makes an interesting point.
Looks like it's snowing in here because there's insulation coming down through my vents.
I got AC guys working here.
Roberts points out the critique on the consumption side.
He says if the wealthy are getting richer
and the poor and the middle class
aren't getting any wealthier,
how come it is,
how come the consumption data,
in other words,
what the poor and middle class are buying,
consumption's gone up?
And the guy, the Frenchman,
I think exposes,
the French economist exposes the whole game.
He goes, well,
a lot of that was financed on the back of debt.
In other words,
they weren't raking real money.
Financed on the back of debt, a lot of it was never paid back.
In other words, Joe, so you bought a house in the housing crisis.
You bought a house you may have lived in for three or four or five years,
a house you could not afford.
You never paid back the mortgage.
The banks and the stockholders,
who were typically the holders of capital, took the loss.
So I don't get your point.
Your point is that he's arguing, well, consumption data can screw up the whole thing because
it's basically debt that the lower income categories and middle class people took that
they never paid back.
So what you're saying is basically rich people gave poor people and middle class folks money
that was never paid back.
And you're using that as an argument that equality got worse.
Does that make any sense?
Folks, listen to you got to listen to all this stuff with a critical ear.
I'm sorry I went on a long today for today's show, but this is important stuff.
And again, it just goes to show you how liberals are obsessed with painting for you a picture
of America that doesn't really exist.
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