The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 572 An Absolutely Inexcusable Attack on Trump

Episode Date: October 19, 2017

In this episode - Beware of this dangerous liberal scam designed to destroy our Constitutional Republic.  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/truth-catches-up-with-the-effort-to-abolish-the-electoral-college/article/2637915?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Examiner+Today&utm_source=StructureCMS   Ted Cruz destroys Bernie Sanders on taxes! https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/ted-cruz-destroys-sanders-robin-hood-tax-fantasy   Busted! The disingenuous congresswoman attacking Trump for calling the widow of a heroic serviceman has a spotty record on veteran’s issues. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/19/florida-democrat-wilson-no-friend-veterans-vote-record-shows.html   Federal spending per person has exploded. Check out these disturbing numbers. https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/capita-federal-spending-sevenfold-1941   The real dangers of the DC “swamp.” http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/18/trump-not-replacing-bureaucrats-enables-deep-state?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell%22&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTTJJeVl6VXhZVEZsTURZeiIsInQiOiJkTXdGampvWFdENmNsK2V2NVZcL0pqMERTMzZjVGtURHZ2U1pzQXgyQkhLcklnMTRRSVwvZ01iczRpb2VrTEJHcCs3Z09pZUlla0UwUENFMUpmejZwXC9UZkd5Z0VpZ1hoS2IyaWNKUUMwekFxMFE1MDZiUlFcL243Rkxya3N5UTdLd3QifQ%3D%3D   Here’s how to listen to my podcast on your Amazon Echo.  https://www.amazon.com/Harrison-Digital-Media-AnyPod/dp/B072HY3T7Y/ref=lp_14284855011_1_2?s=digital-skills&ie=UTF8&qid=1507912308&sr=1-2   Sponsor Links: www.BrickhouseNutrition.com/Dan www.CRTV.com Promo Code “Bongino”   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dan Bongino. I owe you. Who owes who? You owe me. I owe you. There's no money. The Dan Bongino Show. Anything run by liberals will be run into the ground, burned, stepped on, gasoline poured on it, and burned again. Get ready to hear the truth about America. They're arguing about things and debating how quickly they can deconstruct the greatest country in the history of mankind and all of the ideas and norms that have gotten us here. On a show that's not immune to the facts with your host Dan Bongino. All right welcome to the Renegade Republican with Dan Bongino. Producer Joe how are you today? Always glad to be here Dan-o.

Yeah busy news day thanks to everybody listening yesterday's show. Had the nuclear meltdown about this crap going on with this Russia investigation. And it turns out the Trump-Russia scandals evolved into an Obama-Russia scandal, which has conveniently gone away because the mainstream media are a bunch of fake, phony, fraud, liberals in disguise, political activists, not journalists. Tune them out. Don't click on their stuff. They're garbage. Cancel your subscriptions. And I really have nothing nice to say about them at all. Didn't

have anything nice to say yesterday. Don't have anything nice to say today. There's nothing we can do. They have the absolute First Amendment right to put out what they want, and I support that. But that doesn't prevent them from being total jerks and really destructive to the country, a negative moral influence. I mean, they're totally unethical. And I'm just disgusted by the whole thing. The fact that for months we've been told, yeah, about this Trump-Russia thing, Joe. Did you get any feedback on yesterday's show?

Yeah, I mean, I got about 200, 300 emails. People loved it. So I appreciate the feedback. I'm so disgusted by the state of the country. And, you know, I just remember being in the Secret Service and sitting there amongst the press and watching the group think. And I just, I can't understand that I'm going to move on from this. I want to repeat yesterday's show.

But I'll just leave you with this point, folks. I can't understand for the life of me why we're supposed to take the modern mainstream media seriously this is a serious question i'm not this isn't hyperbole for effect again this is a serious question i don't take an orthopedist's word seriously an orthopedic doctor's word seriously when he's telling me about a brain condition I may have. I don't mean that as an insult. I just mean, Joe, if I had a brain tumor, God forbid, which I may, but I have to do yesterday's show.

If I had a brain tumor, what kind of doctor do you think you'd go to for a brain tumor? Most likely a brain doctor. A brain doctor who specializes in oncology of the brain and cancer of the brain. I mean, again, sometimes, Joe, these questions are so obvious, I'm afraid you think I'm setting you up. Sometimes I do. Yeah, I know, but I'm really not. You're the audience on Buzzman. So I go to a doctor who specializes in cancers of the brain. If I have a broken bone, I go to... Matter of fact, ironically, if I have a broken bone or a sprain in a joint, I want to go to a doctor that not only is an orthopedic, but who specializes in that specific joint.

Yeah. I don't go to a knee guy for a shoulder, okay? Right. Why? I mean, this is a very serious question I pose to my audience, who I adore. Why do you take these people seriously in the media? These are, folks, I'm sorry, and this is not, my experience with them, this is not,

I'm not trying to stereotype the entire industry. I'm telling you my experience with the majority of media folks I dealt with behind the scenes in my time working at the White House. These are really, really, let me be nice,

they are not very, they're not bright people. They're not, I'm telling, they're not, they're not bright people they're not i'm telling they're not they are not even like these are people who probably couldn't hack it in biology couldn't hack it in chemistry couldn't hack it in physics couldn't hack it in any of the hard sciences probably had a tough time in engineering dropped out and became basically journalism majors and yet they write about stuff and we're supposed to universally accept their position that they're the the the barometer for universal truth what why why why are we listening to these

people folks i hate to say you should be openly mocking and laughing at these people i don't mean that in a bad way but there's i mean it because it's true like their whole trump russia thing was a fairy tale it was made up yeah and yet we're taking oh no the the new york times said it okay even worse why again are we i don't understand why we're listening to these people i don't know folks just to me that's why i was so upset yesterday it makes no sense and again we're hearing it again on the tax bill that That's why I wanted to do a little segue here, an intentional one. Sometimes I unintentionally do them. This is intentional.

The media, again, is injecting themselves into this tax cut debate, being that Trump is pushing for pretty pronounced and substantial tax cuts. But again, the media, who are not brain surgeons, who are not engineers, who are not architects, who are not nurses or doctors, and they are definitely not economists, we're supposed to take the New York Times word for the economic effects of tax cuts as if the New York Times or the Wall Street, excuse me, the Washington Post has ever been able to credibly report the facts. Why are we taking, these are not economists.

These are just, folks, I'm telling telling you they are really not smart some of the conversations i had with these media people behind the scenes i would walk away and be like oh did he just say that like is that real did that person just say that and writes articles for blank outlet fill in the blanks time reuters whatever i mean you're stunned at the level of stupidity. I would take a Secret Service agent's word any day of the week and twice on Sunday over that of someone in the media,

who ironically, the media's job is to put, you know, just the facts, man. But this tax thing is infuriating to me because they refuse to report the truth. Now, Chuck Schumer, who's gone full clown, he's gone full clown mode, is on the floor yesterday in the House and ironically starts, you know, badgering the American public against these tax cuts. And it's funny how he frames it, Joe, and it goes to show

you the hypocrisy of you Democrats listening. You, yes, you. Me? Not all of you, not you, Joe, but the Democrats, I know where you stand. But the Democrats listening, your party are hypocrites. You're hypocrites. You're not genuine. I got not all of you, but the good majority of Democrats are total frauds. We don't have that problem in the Republican Party. We don't want to pay higher taxes and we don't want you to pay them either. So Chuck Schumer gets on the floor, Joe, and gives his speech on the floor and outs himself as a complete total fraud.

He starts talking about, you know, we're worried about the national debt and middle class taxes going up under this plan. Wait, what? Chuck Schumer said that, folks. I didn't say that wrong. It's not like I'm confused. Are you confused? Let me get you one confused. Are you confused? Let me get you one confused. No, Chuck Schumer, the liberal hack Democrat from New York, gave a speech on the floor panning the Trump tax cuts, saying how magically how the Trump tax cuts are going to hike taxes on the middle class and increase the debt.

So Chuck Schumer, let me get this straight. All of a sudden you care about middle class people paying more and you care about the debt going up? Folks, do you actually believe that? Now, Republicans actually care. Good ones, not the bad ones. I don't want to stereotype in a positive direction on our side either. We certainly have our share of abysmal failures. But ladies and gentlemen, we have been fighting this fight for constrained government spending forever. The Democrats have exploded the budget and there's not a dollar of government

spending. They won't support. And all of a sudden Chuck Schumer goes on the floor, renounces 50 plus years, you know, post FDR more than that of, of expansive government policies. Oh,

and you think I'm making that up? Where is this here? Uh, there's an article I'll put in the show notes today at Bongino.com. You can subscribe to my email list there, and I will email you the show notes as well. Great article by CNS News, Joe. Since 1941, federal spending per person, inflation adjusted. These are not nominal numbers. These are real numbers.

Inflation adjusted. In 1941, we spent $1,718 dollars per person per capita right all right now 2017 inflation adjusted 12 239 dollars per person that's a seven-fold increase in federal spending so let me get this straight seven-fold that's a big number folks that's an enormous number what do you stand for, Democrats? I don't understand. Is the debt your concern? And if the debt's your concern, why don't you take real action like cut spending? So the debt's your concern, but you support more government spending and middle class tax rates are your concern, despite the fact that you've

consistently argued for higher middle class tax rates. Folks, these guys are total frauds. They're making it up as they're going along and Chuck Schumer stands for nothing. He's a fake. He's a charlatan. He's a magician. That's all he is. Now, folks, I have a suggestion to solve these problems

and I think this would be one of the few ways we could, because I don't see any real solution in the future under the current status quo of taxing and spending. Taxes will continue to go up as spending goes up because government spending is taxes. Whether they're taxes now or taxes in the future, they're taxes you're going to pay for. There's only three ways to solve this problem, which I'll get to in a second. But let me just suggest a strategic way to stem the tide of excessive government spending. Folks, I get it.

People don't think this is real. They don't. I'm sorry. People don't think this is real. They don't. I'm sorry. People don't think this is spending anymore. They don't think it affects them. They don't see government spending like they see household spending. When you get a bill in the mail

for a product you bought, and that bill is like $300, $400, let's say you got, I had some duct work done in my house recently. I put two new air conditioners, and the duct work couldn't handle it. So they came in and like, oh man, now we got to do the duct work too.

It was like $2,000. That's real to you. Why, Joe? Because I had to write a check and that $2,000 cleared from my bank account and went into the bank account of the HVAC company. Right between the eyes. Right between the eyes. Right in the kisser. People don't see

government spending as real. I know you may say, oh, come on, Dan. Yes, they do. No, folks, they don't see government spending as real. I know you may say, oh, come on, Dan. Yes, they do. No, folks, they don't. They see government spending as either some accounting error or they see it as like, oh, don't worry, we'll be long dead before the bill comes due because the bill hasn't come due.

So a simple suggestion to make this real, to make the grotesque amount of government spending, $4 trillion and $20 trillion in accumulated debt, years and years of annual deficits projected way into the future. You know what? You want to make this real, Joe? We should start billing people at the end of the year. Wow. Yeah. Do you agree? Yeah. Send them a bill. You'd see it and feel it that way. You'd see it and feel it. You want to pay for government? Folks, I know this is going to suck.

This would impact me because, well, people wouldn't save. People could go bankrupt. You're already going bankrupt. You're making my point. Well, why not just not pay then? It's the same as saying government spending is, oh, don't worry. Government's dad, Q, is going to make us pay. You're going to pay.

What do you want to pay later or you want to pay later or do you want to pay now? Or do you want to pay later with interest? Send everybody a bill on April 15th. No more, we're already financing the government with debt. What does it matter? Forget payroll withholding. Send everybody a payroll tax bill for your Social Security, a payroll tax bill for your Medicare,

and a payroll tax bill for your, excuse me a payroll tax bill for your Medicare, and a payroll tax bill for your, excuse me, and an income tax bill at the end of the year on April 15th. And watch what happens when the average American making, say, $70,000 a year as a family, that's a little bit above the median income. But, you know, people who are median income plus a bit, wait till they get that $20,000 bill in the mail. I'm not talking about Republicans, folks.

I'm not lecturing. You guys already know that this is a problem. Good Republicans. I'm talking about the Democrats who think this is all free. They live in the money fairy land. Send them a bill. 20K every year, plus interest on the debt. You watch how quickly this turns around

because Democrats are full of crap. They're full of it on this issue. I just showed you they're full of it. Chuck Schumer's arguing on the floor that the Democrats now care about debt and middle class tax rates. Nonsense. They support endless government spending.

Spending is taxes, which is a hike on the middle class. Government debt is just a tax in the future plus the interest on the debt. There's no difference. This is real, folks the interest on the debt. There's no difference. This is real, folks. This is real money. It's not fake.

Now, I said I'd get to this. There's only three ways for us to finance this government debt. There's only three ways for us to pay for it. Number one, which I've discussed before, and this is, I'll make the case to you strongly and I'll stand by this. This is why the Democrats absolutely adore inflation, despite the fact that inflation's a double whammy for you. Because what does inflation do to you, Joe?

It makes prices go up for stuff you have to buy. And inflation makes your salary effectively go down because inflation means your dollar is worth less. Inflation means your dollar, if a dollar yesterday bought you product A, B, and C, inflation means the dollar's been devalued. It means that that dollar now only buys A and B. And if inflation's worse, then it only buys A. And it only buys a half of A in the future.

Inflation's a double whammy. Prices go up, your earning power and your spending, I should say your spending power goes down. But Democrats love inflation because inflation also reduces the value of government debt. I know I've spoken about this before, but it's important. It's why the Democrats right now, I like to tie stories together, folks,

are very worried about the upcoming appointment to the Federal Reserve Board. They are extremely concerned that Trump is going to appoint what they would call a hawk and not a dove. A monetary hawk would be someone who supports a strong dollar or doesn't support unfettered inflation, right? Right. A fiscal dove would be someone who supports heavy or robust inflation as a way to inflate away the value of their debt. It's a little simplified way of saying it. I get that.

But that's why I like to tie these stories together. And there's a big debate right now going on because there's an open seat about who Trump should appoint to that position, a hawk or a dove. Trump has actually spoken in kind of dovish terms, which worries me a little bit on that, to be candid. We need a hawk in there that supports a strong dollar. But Democrats love inflation because it devalues the dollar and it also devalues the dollar of government debt.

The example, John Maynard Keynes, who ironically is the eponymously named Keynesian economics, which is the bedrock of Democrat liberal economic principle. Even he explained the dangers of inflation way by giving the example I always give that, you know, there's a couple ways to pluck the goose, right? If you want to get 25% of the population's money because you want the government to spend it, there's two ways to do it, Joe. You could basically, if say the economy was $100, you could tax away $25 and spend it. So federal government comes in, taxes everybody 25%, takes $25 out of the $100 in the economy and spends it, right? All right. The other way to do it is they don't tax you at all or they tax you very little and they just print $33 and put it in circulation.

So now there's $133 in circulation, but the government automatically prints it and gives itself that $33. Now you may say, oh, that's great. They don't have to tax anyone. No, they tax you. You just don't know it. Right. Because now with $133 in circulation, your money is devalued and buys less.

There's no free money. There's no money fairy. That's why Democrats love inflation. So there's only three ways to do this. We can inflate away. When I say this, I mean, I'm talking about getting rid of our debt. We can inflate it away. We can tax it away.

Now you may say, well, Dan, you're arguing that you're you're a supporter of decreased government debt but now you're saying that we can tax it away folks we could tax it away but the irony is taxing it away doesn't mean higher tax rates it generally means lower tax rates you're like wow now i'm really confused yeah folks lower tax rates to a point it's called the laffer curve uh named after art laffer l-a-f-f-e-r just look it up it's you know there's tons of pages that describe what it is it's very simple laffer described this phenomenon through taxation where obviously zero taxes lead to joe zero tax dollars right where obviously zero taxes lead to, Joe, zero tax dollars.

Right. But a 100% tax rate eventually leads to zero tax dollars too. How's that? Because at 100% tax rate, the government confiscating all of people's money, what do people stop doing, Joe? Working. Generating money, yeah.

Right, generating. Better way to say it. You actually correct. See, that's why I like having it. People stop generating money. Why? Because it's not their money. It's the government. So so laffer allegedly on a napkin as he describes it was showing a bush economic advisor once how the laffer curve works and he showed that there is an effective peak of that curve a tax rate that people will find generally fair and not a

disincentive to work because it's not so high that all their money's being confiscated and where they get decent value for their government dollar, a court system, the military that, well, it's in dispute where the peak of that curve is. I would argue through, you know, through some work that's been done in the past that, you know, I've described on the show that it's probably around 18 to 20% based on Hauser's law. I'm not going to get too deep into that, but it's around 18 to 20% in my humble opinion based on some of the work of a financial analyst from the west coast hauser that people around 18 to 20 percent of their income is enough for them joe to continue to work and not be disincentivized by paying so much of their money that they stop working so the argument i'm making here, again, point number one,

you want to get rid of the debt, we can inflate it away. Very bad because it inflates away your dollar too. So it can be done, but it's bad. I'm not recommending it. That's what the Democrats love. Method number two, effective tax rates. The tax rates, though, have to go down a bit, not up. We're already at 35% for a top marginal rate on the federal income side,

top marginal rate. But the problem is 45% of people right now aren't paying federal taxes. So that tax load is about 15 points above where it should be. I would make the case to you strongly that if we were to cut the tax rates, it would incentivize people to work more. Frankly, folks, not because they're being benevolent, joe but because they want to earn more money and now they can keep more of it the catch is they earn more they produce more they produce more money and the government even at 20 rather than 50 at 35 gets a bigger nominal chunk of the pie now the third way to do it would be to grow out of it which is kind of tied to number two we're not going to grow out of it through inflation and we are certainly not going to grow out of it

through higher tax rates now i just described to you why lower tax rates can actually lead to more money coming into the government, but we need growth, folks. At 7% growth over 10 years, we would double the real value of our economy. Think about what I'm telling you. Now, that's a ridiculous amount of growth. I'm not suggesting that that's even plausible, but at 3.5%, half of seven, obviously, we could double our economy in 20 years in our lifetime in 20 years i'm 42 gonna be 43 by the time i'm in my 60s if we hit three and a half percent growth every year not a difficult target's been done many times reagan hit nearly six percent in one of the years of his presidency in 20 years joe we could double the

size of our economy think about what i'm telling you we owe 20 trillion in of our economy. Think about what I'm telling you. We owe 20 trillion in debt. Our economy is 20 trillion. So right now we owe every single thing we're worth. If we were to double the size of our economy in 20 years, just by simple growth alone, simple growth alone, we would shrink our debt just through growth. Even if we paid nothing. Yeah, there'd be some interest payments,

but you get what I'm saying? And interest payments right now are lower than three percent i i just wanted to bring this up because i i know i spent a little time on it i'm afraid if i i get too wonky sometimes i'll lose you but i i'm just i'm i'm disgusted by dealing with democrat hypocrisy on all these issues chuck schumer oh we gotta worry about the debt shut up chuck shut up you never gave a damn about debt. You don't give a damn about debt now. You're a liar. I mean, how do you get on the floor of the Senate and sell your soul to the devil every single time?

You're just making it up. You're just totally, completely making it. You never cared about the debt. You never cared about middle-class tax. Now you care about middle-class taxes? Since when? You're just a hack. Pathetic.

And unlike those characters, I'm offering you real solutions, okay? I'm offering you solutions that are bad. Inflation. Second, higher taxes because it's going to lead to lower tax revenue. So they're not really solutions. They're proposed solutions that'll be failures. Third, the only way to do it is to grow. Grow through lower tax rates

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Fox is always a...'s always funny, you know? I mean, you know, you see people on TV all the time and then you run into them in the green room. The thing about Fox, and I don't just say this because it's a relatively conservative outlet, folks. I could, but I'm not going to, is behind the scenes, the people are very genuine. I'm telling you, I've never had a bad experience

with anyone. An on-air personality, the bookers, the camera folks, they're really unbelievably nice people. And I just want to give a quick shout out to Janice Dean. I know we have a lot of listeners. She was unbelievably nice. The weather machine, you know, Janice Dean, the weather machine. She's great. She gave some of her Freddy the Frogcaster books to my kids and she signed all of them. And she donates a significant portion of those proceeds of the book to various charities. And she was an unbelievably elegant and just wonderful person to my kids. And I appreciate it. So go pick up a copy of her book, if you don't mind. Freddie the Frogcaster, she has a big series. She donates a lot of money.

She's really a wonderful person. So thanks to janice dean for doing that i really appreciate it go check them out freddie the frogcaster really cool books my five-year-old loves them by the way she signed all of them too which was amazing so all right oh gosh this is the story i saw today folks that i hope gets reported on elsewhere although i am not confident it will our let me be careful. I don't want to be overly dramatic because I got into a fight yesterday on Twitter with the former ambassador to Russia. No, I'm not kidding, folks. Check back to Mike McFaul,

who sounds like a decent enough guy. He wasn't hostile about it, but he didn't understand my tweet. I was talking about the Hill story yesterday about the Uranium One deal. And I said that it looks like the Russians bribed their way through the Obama administration. I didn't say bribe the Obama administration. i said bribe their way through the obama administration meaning that they were influencing these deals that were going on through

the money exchanging hands with these private companies and i was alluding to although not in a fashion of a bribe because it's a legal term yet the clinton foundation payments so mcfall didn't like that but he was you know he was, but he was cool. I have no problem with people firing back. I fire bombs on Twitter. But I saw this story, so I want to be careful how I present it because words do matter, and that's why I very delicately worded

that tweet yesterday because I don't like to get into conspiracy stuff, right? As you well know, which is ironic because some people, some idiots tweet me like, what are you, a conspiracy theorist?

I'm like, oh my God, I can't win. I can't win with this. I can't. Whatever. Whatever, dudes. There is a story in the Washington Examiner in the show notes. You please, you have to read it. If you don't want to subscribe to my email list, fine.

Go to Bongino.com. You don't want to go to Bongino.com? Find me on Twitter. I tweeted it out. You don't want to? Just go to the Washington Examiner and look up the piece. It's really good. There is this, they're trying to get,

the Democrats are trying to get rid of the constitutional republic and our system of electing people. I don't know any other way to say it. I'm trying to be precise and careful in my language, but there's no other way to say it. An organized group of Democrats, Joe, wants to wipe clean the electoral college,

which I have warned you about in the past, is extremely dangerous to get rid of. Just to be clear on what we're talking about, I'm not trying to dumb the show down. I know most of you know, but for those of you who aren't familiar with how exactly we elect presidents, the election of the President of the United States is not a national election. It's not. It is a series of statewide elections that the results of those statewide elections are determinative of the number of electors that are selected to then elect the president. Just think of it like a series of 50 governor's races. It's not a national election.

It's not a popular vote election. Most of you know that. The winner of the popular vote was not Donald Trump. It was Hillary Clinton. It's not the first time this has happened, by the way, either. Al Gore won the popular vote over George W. Bush. Now, the less argument is that, oh, that's subverting democracy. Folks, we are not a democracy.

We are not. We are a constitutional republic. We have a democratic process, but we are not a direct democracy. No one's subverting anything. We were never intended to be a direct democracy. And I'm going to get into this in a second because this is, there's an organized effort and Robert Reich, who I really frankly can't stand. I mean, because he just, he, I did a whole video about this guy. He is an economist who just makes stuff up all the time. I mean, he does. And he, and he hides behind the guise of a doctor of philosophy,

his, whatever, his PhD, to say things that are just factually incorrect, and he gets the public to believe him. Robert Rice exposed a whole kit and caboodle on a thing called national popular vote legislation. Folks, when you hear this thing, run for the hills. What is it? The Democrats have always wanted a direct democracy. Why is that? Well, have always wanted a direct democracy.

Why is that? Well, the line about a direct democracy is it's what, two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, right? That's it. The reason we don't have a direct democracy, in other words, people vote on every single issue and majority wins, folks, is because majority rule can be just as tyrannical

as actual tyranny. What do I mean by that? The electoral vote, given that 50 states get a say in the presidential election based on what happens in their state, state, not nationally, prevents two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Because, Joe, what it prevents is, let's say, I was trying to think of an example today. I'm sitting there, I'm walking around my house. It's early in the morning. I work out early now. And I'm like, all right, here's a good example. Do you think farmland, again, this is not a trick question, I promise you.

Do you think farmland generally benefits people who live in Midtown Manhattan? Generally, no. No, no, because there's very little, if any, farmland in Midtown Manhattan. So I thought to myself, OK, what if New York City got together in a direct democracy and bandied together enough votes to put a referendum on a national ballot that said all farmland is going to be taxed at 90% and proceeds are going to go to subway systems nationwide, conveniently with New York having one of the biggest ones. Would that be fair?

No, that wouldn't be fair, no. Again, not trick. I feel bad for you. Sometimes I do set them up a little bit, but very rarely. But very rarely. And he usually catches me anyway, so it's not really that fun when I do it but that joe is that not a democracy right if yeah that would be a democracy yeah if if more people voted for a bill that said all farmland proceeds are to be taxed at 90 money is to go directly into subway systems and it benefited new y City. That's democratic, right? Yeah, it still sucks.

Dude, that's going on a mug. Joe Armacost, quote, it still sucks. No, no, no. Direct democracy. We'll put your next name, Joe A., next name. Direct democracy, Armacost, it still sucks. You're right. It sucks.

Of course it sucks. And the founders understood that there can be a tyranny of a majority that's not different from a tyranny of an oligarchy or a monarchy. People can't vote away others' rights, folks. That's why we don't have a direct democracy. We have a constitutional republic, otherwise called in some cases a representative democracy, where we elect people in certain regions to represent our local regional interests, not national interests in many cases. The Democrats hate this because they understand the tyranny of the majority and they understand they own the population centers. New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, Baltimore, where all the populations of major regions

of the country are concentrated are in America's big cities. They always understood, the liberals, that if they could get the Electoral College to go away and make this a national popular vote referendum, they can enforce the tyranny of the majority and take away the rights of the minority. The United States never wanted that. that so now we have a system where and let me just because i'm afraid i didn't explain this well enough the electoral college when the majority of people in the state of wisconsin joe vote for president trump which they did in this election president trump at the time candidate trump gets the electoral votes from wisconsin what the democrats are trying to do through this scam and remember the name because you need to tell your legislators about this the national popular vote legislation this is really slick what they're trying to do and it goes to show you by the way and i'm going to read a quote for a second on how they always remember i tell you they always lie to you yeah they always lie they never tell you they initially

phrases oh no we're not trying to get rid of the electoral college and now robert rice exposed the whole kit and caboodle by saying oh yeah, yeah, we need to get rid of the Electoral College. Again, pulling the wool over your eyes. What they're trying to do is they're trying to get 270 electoral vote states to sign on to have their elected. Because remember, Joe, you need 270 electoral votes nationally to win the presidency. presidency to sign on to like pledging their allegiance to vote for the winner of the national popular vote not the vote in the state man do you see what i'm saying yes wisconsin would have in fact the president trump would not be president if this was the case because although president trump won wisconsin he did not win the national popular vote. So if Wisconsin pledged its electors to voting for the national popular vote winner and not the winner of the state election in Wisconsin,

we'd have President Hillary Clinton. Folks, I hate to say it. I don't mean this in a complimentary qualitative way. It is an unbelievably brilliant scam. Because once 270 electoral vote states or more sign on to that compact, it doesn't matter what the other states do, Joe. The winner of the national popular vote wins. You see my point? I sure do. If Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, California, if they all sign on and say,

we don't care about the vote in California, New York, Wisconsin. We only care about the national popular vote. Then the winner of the national popular vote already has 270 electoral votes. It doesn't matter what happens in the states. Genius. Now, the whole intention, folks, of the electoral college was to avoid the two wolves and a sheep at dinner conundrum. The point of an electoral college was to make sure that farmers in Wisconsin, engineers in Wisconsin, that auto workers in Michigan, that Western Pennsylvania coal miners,

that their interests could be represented on a government at not a co-equal level, but in a representative democracy. You see what I'm saying, Joe? It's not co-equal level but in a representative democracy you see what i'm saying joe it's not co-equal because pennsylvania doesn't have the same amount of electoral votes as california california has more people yeah but they have a say based on what happens in pennsylvania based on their population right if pennsylvania swears on to this national popular vote thing then the interests of pennsylvanians don't matter. Because they're just swearing onto what happens in the popular vote nationally, swearing their allegiance to it.

Also, the House of Representatives is obviously weighted on population. So although each state gets two senators to protect them against the two wolves and the sheep scenario, to also allow some representative democracy, they adjust the House of Representatives based on how many people live in the state. There's basically a member, you get a member for roughly every 700,000 people in your state.

So it's not, they don't totally wipe clean the effects of population, but it is not a majority rule system. This is in the Examiner today. It's an amazing piece. And this would, folks, this would go into effect, this national popular vote legislation.

I took some notes on this for you. After 270 electoral vote states sign on, for obvious reasons. Folks, this is a huge scam. This is a total subversion of our constitutional Republican representative democracy. And another brilliant point brought up in the piece, I'm going to read a quick little snippet from it in a minute. total subversion of our constitutional Republican representative democracy. And another brilliant point brought up in the piece,

I'm going to read a quick little snippet from it in a minute. But a brilliant point brought up in the piece is, Joe, do you honestly think, because there's not, keep in mind, there's nothing stopping these electors from going back on their pledge if a Republican wins the national popular vote. Remember, this is why I'm saying it's always a scam. The Democrats only want this when the Democrat wins the national vote to get a state like Wisconsin that voted for Trump to vote for Hillary. They don't really want to tell the truth here. Because do you honestly think that if Donald Trump wins the popular vote

and liberal states that signed on to this, say Maryland, Massachusetts, places like that that would sign on to this, say Maryland, Massachusetts, places like that, that would sign on to something like that potentially. Do you honestly think, Joe, that the Massachusetts electors are going to vote their state for Donald Trump if he were to win the national popular vote? I know you laugh because there's Zippo chants. This national popular vote thing is a win-win for the Democrats. It's an excuse to subvert representative democracy when the Democrat wins the popular vote. And by the way, it's not binding. So when a Republican wins the national popular vote, they'll all turn around and go, no, no, we really didn't mean that. It's not

binding. We're going to vote for the other person instead. It's a total joke. This is the biggest scam ever. Don't fall for it. Now, here's a quote from the Washington Examiner piece, a good one, to show you how liberals are full of crap every time. They never tell you the truth. Chuck Schumer, this is going to increase the debt, increase middle class taxes. This is the same guy who supports endless debt and hiking taxes. Liberalism is a scam, a fraud. It is a BS act.

It's a bad magician at aurday early morning kids party where you're sitting there going my god how do the kids like this this is what they are they're a joke they're a fraud they never tell you the truth they have been saying this national popular voting this is not an effort to subvert the electoral college well robert rice says this so here's a quote from the piece for anyone who has been following this issue, Rice's language is astonishing. His statements contradict everything the national popular vote people have been telling legislators, especially red state legislators, for years. National popular vote has been steadfastly pretending, Joe, your name's not in there, that its proposal is pro-constitution and pro-electoral college. Oh, yeah. OK. Okey-doke. pro-electoral college. Oh, yeah, okay, okie doke.

So this is their words. Let's be clear, national popular vote lobbyist Laura Broad blasted several years ago. The national popular vote legislation being voted on and supported by legislators across this great nation does not abolish the electoral college. Other national popular vote lobbyists have routinely agreed the idea college other national popular vote lobbyists have routinely agreed the idea that the national popular vote abolishes attacks neuters or subverts the electoral

college or the constitution uh is simply not true well rice just came out in a piece and basically said listen let's get rid of the national pop I mean let's get rid of the electoral college completely by instituting this national popular vote in other words telling you that everything they've been telling you don't folks you don't believe me read the piece everything they've been telling you the whole time is complete utter bull garbage it's bull they're just making never ever trust liberals ever don't trust rhino republicans either but definitely don't trust liberals. They are always lying to you to institute an agenda. It is a total, complete scam.

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He's had a really busy life. He's clearly made some mistakes, but I'm not one to throw stones for his moral failings if he's sincere in his redemption, which I think he's trying. I really do. I support the president. I'm really offended by this whole thing.

You know, I get it. Was it a great idea to bring up who Obama called and didn't? Now, to be candid, folks, no, it probably wasn't. I mean, each president has a different way. Bush, Obama, you know, Clinton. And I know this isn't me being, you know, chicken about it. Just each president has a different way. I understand that.

I've never obviously been president of the United States, but I've been in some really odd positions before where people have asked me, can you call this person about this? And you're like, and there's no question these people are heroes, but some people just don't want to hear from the president. I know that sounds crazy.

So it probably wasn't a good idea to bring that up. But bashing Trump for calling a widow of a unbelievably heroic American Green Beret when all it's alleged, alleged, Trump said, because Trump isn't even saying he said this. But even if he did, is my point. All he said, Joe, was he knew what he signed up for and he did it anyway. What the. What's the problem with that? Let me get this straight. He's a queens guy like me he's not he doesn't claim to be a wordsmith we're not you know shakespearean orders we're

we're just a bunch of new york kids who have an interest in issues in politics. Obviously, he ran for president. I do the show. I don't know. I mean, Joe, seriously, you're a regular. You're literally like the average Joe. I mean, that is a compliment. Joe's a hardworking guy. He goes to work. He likes motorcycles, cars, guy stuff, sports,

lifting weights with his kids. He's just Joe. Yeah. Do you see? I mean, I'm asking you to be strictly candid with it. Do you see anything wrong with that at all? I think that was his way of saying this man was a hero. Exactly.

I don't know. I'm still trying to desperately get what this hack congresswoman in the great state of Florida where I live, Frederica Wilson,son who is a joke a farce i mean a complete ridiculous sideshow of an act she's like i was gonna pick up the phone and curse him out were you good luck good luck doing that you complete piece of garbage you were gonna curse him out for calling a widow to emphasize the point that this hero knew he could die and signed up anyway? Give me a freaking break. This is a faux fake news controversy invented by hack, disgusting, filthy politicians like Frederica Wilson, whatever her name is, who's a total farce, a total joke, a total sideshow,

has no business being in Congress or in any position of leadership at all. It's an embarrassment to herself, her district, and her country. You were going to curse out the president for calling a widow on his time of an American hero killed in a combat situation for saying that he knew what he signed up for and he did it anyway. That's all you've got? And then you wonder why people like Frederica Wilson only appeal to radical hack liberals

in their own districts. This is a woman who could never run statewide or she'd be laughed off the stage. Laughed off the stage. Embarrassing. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean to get such a macabre story to this. Sometimes these transitions are tough, but I just saw this too on Fox,

and someone called me about it from bustle.com yesterday. They asked me if Melania Trump uses body doubles. The story's been getting some, because they've got some pictures out there with her with glasses. Folks, listen to me, please. I'm begging you. I know my audience. I love you to death.

There are no body doubles in the Secret Service, okay? It's not even legal for a number of reasons. Spending taxpayer money, defending a civilian, pretending to be the president is probably, you would probably be fired for that. There are no body doubles. There's no Melania body double. It doesn't happen.

Not to get Secret Service protection. It doesn't work that way. There are no body doubles. So scrap that story. All right. Don't forget to tune in tomorrow. I got a couple more things I want to get to. I got to talk about the collapse of total, utter, complete collapse of one of the three

imbecile musketeers, you know, Hollywood, the media, and academia. It's just collapsing right now. They're eating each other over there, which is, in some ways, you know, it's sad to watch because, not that I feel bad for Hollywood, but the ramifications of this are going to affect all of us.

And there's another story about the, what's going on with Obamacare. This Alexander Murray bill is terrible. Lamar Alexander, Patty Murray. Folks, this is a complete mess. Forget it. Get away from it. It's a total disaster.

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