The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 581 It’s Time to Get Real on Immigration

Episode Date: November 1, 2017

In this episode -   Why are we continuing with a suicidal immigration policy? https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/uzbek-nyc-terror-suspect-was-admitted-under-obamas-dhs   Here’s one thing ...we most do to fight back against this growing terror threat. http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/12/01/nyc-attack-us-needs-to-focus-on-physical-surveillance-says-fmr-secret-service-agent.html   Another terror attack on American soil. Thank the Lord for America’s brave police officers.  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/01/nyc-terror-attack-halloween-horror-would-have-been-much-worse-without-top-notch-nypd.html   Another troubling component of the Russian special counsel investigation. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453305/paul-manafort-indictment-mystifying-enigmatic   How keeping the property tax deduction will backfire on the middle-class. http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/31/keeping-property-tax-deduction-backfire-middle-class/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dan Bongino. All the Sanders supporters love throwing bombs at me, and I throw them right back. I'm not here to pull any punches, right? The Dan Bongino Show. This is the great irony of conservatism. Even liberals win under conservatism. Get ready to hear the truth about America. Are you suggesting you're that stupid that other people can run your lives better than you can,
Starting point is 00:00:24 even though the cost and quality of what they buy, quote, for you doesn't even matter to them? On a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. All right. Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show with Dan Bongino. Guys, got to get used to that from the welcome to the renegade Republican. Still trying. Gosh, it's been a long night, too. So much going on.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Another terror attack on American soil. The first terror attack in New York City since 9-11. And a lot to discuss about this today. I mean, you know, God bless our cops out there jumping into the line of fire when everybody, you know, rightly so, is trying to get out of it. You know, another vehicle attack, this new M.O. by these animals overseas who just cannot stop killing. I mean, is there any other way to say that? You know, Joe, you and I are obsessed with jobs, kids, family, your son, my two daughters,
Starting point is 00:01:14 these animals. All they want to do is kill people. I mean, they're not even it's like an insult to animals like animals don't live all day with the thought of killing other animals. They do that when they want to eat. I mean, there's no like like, homicidal animals. It's really tough to deal with. But let's dig in because I want to...
Starting point is 00:01:30 There's a lot I want to discuss today with regards to this. Number one, there's a really great piece written by Dan Horowitz at Conservative Review. And, you know, I know I send you to my show notes a lot. Bongino.com is my website where they are. And if you join the email list, we'll send them to you. And I know I say you to my show notes a lot. Bongino.com is my website where they are. And if you join the email list, we'll send them to you. And I know I say this is a must read, but this is really a must read. I mean, it helps also he writes for conservative review where I work. But you know, I don't chill for even my own company. If it's a good article, I'll talk about
Starting point is 00:01:59 it. This is a really terrific piece by Dan Horowitz on immigration. It's very short, very readable. And let me sum up for you some major takeaways, which I discussed on Fox News this morning and I discussed on Fox Business last night. Joe, we have a suicidal immigration policy. You think? I mean, what are we doing? What is the purpose of immigration? You know, I was on Fox and Friends this morning, and I said, the sole purpose, the only purpose, there is one purpose to immigration and one purpose only.
Starting point is 00:02:31 That should be to enhance the safety and prosperity of the United States. There is no other reason for immigration other than that. Amen. There is no constitutional right to immigration, folks. When you're talking to your left-leaning liberal friends ask them where in the constitution it talks about a big r right to immigration is it in the bill of rights where is it article one article two the article three where is it it's not in there is it in the the amendments where is it it's not in there there is no constitutional right
Starting point is 00:03:07 to immigration citizenship should mean something why am i bringing this up i'm gonna have to drink coffee during the show today excuse me sorry folks don't but i never drink coffee in the show but it's been such a long night and i've had so much stuff i want to get out i want to make sure we're sharp for this and speak with speak with clarity and some sense of precision here. This guy was admitted to the country on a diversity visa program. What the hell is that? Another Chuck Schumer, as Donald Trump called it this morning, beauty. A diversity visa program where we admit up to 50,000 people from
Starting point is 00:03:47 low immigration countries to the United States, which, and it's a lottery. It's not merit-based. It's a lottery. Why are we doing that? Why? No, what's the, I'm serious, folks. I'm, you know, I was always taught, paint a picture, ask a question. I'm asking you the question, we'll paint the picture as time goes on during the show here. Why? Why are we doing that? Oh, we don't have enough diversity in the country. By what measure? What measure are you talking about, by the way? And I'm talking to the liberals out there and the open borders Republicans. By what measure are we not a diverse country here's a question for you that should spur you a little bit to think a little bit if you're on the wrong side of this issue
Starting point is 00:04:28 how many uh immigrants have we given green cards to over the last 15 years from predominantly muslim countries this is not a you know jeopardy i'm just asking because if you're on the wrong side of this you're like like, this is diversity. We need diversity. We are extremely diverse as a country, by the way. But give me a guess. How much do you think? They'll probably say, I don't know, 100,000.
Starting point is 00:04:55 No, try almost 2 million. We are a country of 300 million people. As Dan Horowitz puts together in this piece of conservative view, which again will be in the show notes, we have admitted 1.8 million green card holders from predominantly Muslim countries in the last 15 years. Joe, the country only has
Starting point is 00:05:16 300 million people. Can I hear you? Another thing, Joe, that does not, I repeat, does not include the 150 plus thousand student visas, as Horowitz points out in the piece, that we admit as well for people to come here and to educate themselves in the country. This is not a constitutional right, folks. This diversity thing is a canard. We are already allowing in, this is just from predominantly muslim countries two million
Starting point is 00:05:45 people over the last 15 years what is the end point to you here's the problem you know because the why matters and i know i focus on this show on the why and i never like to leave you with any guesswork at the end here is what's going on here the democrats will recruit voters to enhance their power and their power base and their control over the electoral system will recruit voters from regions of the world they think they can get people to vote Democrat on. That is all this is about. This is not about the security of the United States. This is not about diversity. This is about none of that. Those are flowery talking points and promoted by Democrats who are concerned only with increasing their voter numbers. That's all this is about. And I can prove it to you. There was a poison pill put in a piece of immigration legislation a while ago. Republican members of the Senate, Joe. And it said this. Yes, we'll go along with a lot of your immigration proposals if this one thing.
Starting point is 00:06:47 If the people who come here don't get the right to vote for a certain amount of years. And you know what? The Democrats said no. I remember that. And you know why they said no? Because this is not about immigration and it's not about diversity.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It has always been about, to the Democrats, enhancing their voter numbers and their power base. This diversity visa program is a scam. Two million people from predominantly Muslim countries over 15 years. Folks, one more point on this. So that's the takeaway. This is a scam. This is done purely for votes. And we've already admitted up to two million people. Can we let the people here assimilate first? Clearly, Joe, as evidenced by another attack yesterday, we are having an assimilation problem.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So can we put a stop now to the nonsensical talk about diversity, knowing that we've already diversified our entire immigration pool over the last 15 years? Second takeaway from this, this vetting thing, throw it out. Stop with the vetting.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm tired of hearing about the vetting. Sorry, take another cup of sip of java there. How are you going to do it? There's no vetting. Folks, here's the dirty little secret of international vetting of people who come here as immigrants. I don't know if I've told this story before. I don't think I
Starting point is 00:08:02 have. When I was an agent at the Secret Service traveling around and you were doing a protection mission, not necessarily criminal work overseas, but protection missions overseas, right? You would work with the foreign security services on the ground. Sometimes it was the military. Sometimes it was law enforcement. Sometimes it was in the intelligence community. Sometimes they were all wrapped into one. I can't tell you how many times we would get a list of name checks for presidential events for
Starting point is 00:08:27 people to come in I mean 150 200 names show these are the people we're going to put on a podium these are the people who are going to be in a meet and greet with the president I'm talking about in foreign countries I can't tell you how in many of these countries with broken economies how we would give them to the locals to name check and we would use some of our assets too obviously what we had and the locals they'd come back to we would use some of our assets too, obviously, what we had. And the locals, they'd come back to you and be honest. Like, hey, we don't have much. What do you mean you don't have much?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Well, what do you think they're doing overseas? Checking like the Department of Voter Vehicles or their library cards? Listen, in a lot of developed countries, there are very good data analysis systems where they have information on their citizens. In a lot of these countries that we're taking in diversity visa citizens from, they have almost no ability whatsoever to check these people. Now, to be clear, diversity visas were not from countries like Syria, but Syria was used as an example once in a congressional hearing about a country that has almost no ability to check its citizens at all outside of limited intelligence stuff
Starting point is 00:09:25 and people we've come into contact with on the ground with our IC community. In other words, takeaway, there's no such thing as vetting in a lot of these countries. It's all guesswork. So if we can't vet these people properly, then why the heck are we admitting people under a diversity visa, which is complete, which is all luck, folks, it's not merit-based at all, that we have no idea will enhance the prosperity and may damage the safety of the united states why are we doing it why now they'll circle back and they'll start with they will they will start again where we started that way oh it's all uh the diversity is important what diversity what that we are the most
Starting point is 00:10:02 diverse country on the planet what What are you talking about? Oh, man. All right, I got a clip here of Governor Cuomo, because here's another thing here. There's another why here about this attack yesterday. You need to rebut right away. Forget this lone wolf thing. There's no such thing as lone wolves anymore, okay?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Lone wolf has turned into, it started as a legitimate term. It did, Joe. It started as an individual attacker, you know, a John Hinck It did, Joe. It started as an individual attacker, you know, John Hinckley type or whatever. Lone wolves do not apply to ISIS and Islamic
Starting point is 00:10:31 radicalized fundamentalists who go out there and kill people. They're not lone wolves because they're part of a larger conspiracy by ISIS to use these people to terminate the lives of others.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Forget lone wolves. Now, I want to play this clip by Cuomo and explain to you why the left keeps insisting on using this term. Play that cut. There's no evidence to suggest a wider plot or a wider scheme. But the actions of one individual who meant to cause pain and harm and probably death and the resulting terror. What? Wait, Joe, did I just hear him say he may have meant to cause death? He ran people over with a rental truck.
Starting point is 00:11:19 What do you think he was doing? Well, I mean, checking their heads for lice. I mean, what kind of comment is this from the governor? Now, more importantly, you know what's fun? You played that clip for me, or actually you sent it to me. Excuse me. I played it on my phone. I didn't even catch that last part because I was so taken by the beginning of it, where he's so eager to show you that there's no evidence of a wider plot. Now we do facts on this show, unlike Governor Cuomo, breaking this morning from ABC News. You know, Joe, that bastion of conservative values?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yes. I mean, it's ABC, folks. Latest, New York City terror suspect had come up in prior counterterror probes as a possible associate, law enforcement officials tell ABC. Now, why would the governor jump the gun and start talking about lone wolfism and no evidence of a wider plot? This is what leftists do.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Now, I don't want to bash the guy completely because, you know what, there's no sense piling on at this point because the city does need these people to be there, even though I don't agree with their politics. But I particularly object to this and have to call it out because this is the why matters here. And this is an effort by the left, the lone wolf terminology, Joe, to make you to believe that Islamic radicalism
Starting point is 00:12:34 is not a problem, that this is just people, not the ideology. It is the ideology, the people. There's an endless farm of people out there willing to kill themselves for the cause joe i'm using the air quotes out there it's the people it's the ideology we have to target and the democrats are deathly afraid of that they are deathly afraid of that because they are soft on national security and they know this issue works politically for the republicans and they don't want this to blow up in a strong voter base. They're trying to recruit for future elections, which are Muslim Americans. That's it, folks. That's it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 That's why they will not call terror what it is. And when they do call it what it is, which they did yesterday, I'll give you a de Blasio did say that. Yeah. But when they do call it what it is, after eight years of dancing around the topic under Obama, they are in an effort to avoid discussing the larger ideology and to make it about the individual. Alone wolves, no evidence of a larger plot. I just read you from ABC News that that is factually incorrect. That is not correct. They want to keep it about the individual, Joe, because they don't want to alienate a voting bloc.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That is what this is about. And secondly, again, they know the national security issue always works for the Republicans because on a guns and butter approach, the Republicans have always fallen towards the guns and not the butter in. Guns and butter is an expression used for social spending versus military spending. And I think it's pretty clear the Republican Party and conservatives have largely supported national security and military spending over an expansion of the social safety net. That is an issue that has always worked for Republicans. Democrats want to distract at all times from that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Folks, this is very real. Okay, the why matters in this stuff. One last point. Now, I'm going to move on because there's actually a lot of stuff to talk about. This is a tragic, horrible story. We have to cover it. But I can't forego the rest of the news because there's just so much going on one solution to this i've discovered let me just give you two quick ones show um i was on tucker last night and on the show if you saw it great if not i'll try to get the clip i'll have one i have
Starting point is 00:14:41 one clip from this morning in the show notes uh Fox Business that I encourage you to look at. It's a short one. We have fallen in love over the years with the idea of signal intelligence. What would be called in the IC, the intelligence community, is SIGINT, right? Signal intelligence is great. It's a wonderful thing.
Starting point is 00:15:00 The ability to intercept emails from adversaries, that's terrific. It's good to have the ability to intercept. Well, you don't even have to intercept, but looking at monitoring social media accounts, this is a good thing. It's not a bad thing. Now, I do think it's a bad thing on the metadata front, which I've been crystal clear about. I don't think collecting on innocent Americans is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I'm a libertarian in that respect. Actually, I don't even need to be a libertarian. I believe in the Constitutional Republic as is. I don't believe in metadata, but signal intelligence is a good thing. But Joe, you're never going to win this war on defense and you're never going to win this war from behind a computer screen. Signal intelligence has become a bedrock on which we built our entire counterterrorism house on. Folks, it's not going to work anymore. And here's why.
Starting point is 00:15:45 We don't rely exclusively on it, but largely on it. These attacks now, these vehicle attacks, leave almost no investigative footprints behind at all. These are not 9-11 style attacks. They don't leave behind flight records, flight training, cash transactions. You see what I'm saying, Joe? 9-11 required massive logistics, big money transfers, and all those money transfers and all that flight training and all the communications, they leave clues behind. Clues are dangerous to bad guys.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Why? They don't want to get caught. These kinds of attacks don't leave those clues. You go, you rent a car, and you go and run people over. There are very few clues. What does that have to do with SIGGN versus human intelligence? Gumshoe old-fashioned detective work. Folks, the only way to stop these things in advance if you don't know about them because there are no
Starting point is 00:16:35 breadcrumbs to pick up because there are no clues left behind is to have sources in the community that'll sense something wrong before it happens. It's the only way. What are you going to do? I suggested this this morning. You're going to have a do not rent list? Don't rent cars to these guys? Seriously, where does it end? You have got to have sources in the community. Now, my point, I guess, is not that we don't have source, because I want to be very clear on this. It's that we need a Marshall Plan-like effort to expand our network. You would be stunned, the listeners to this show, you would be astonished, and I speak from experience on this, how limited our physical surveillance capabilities are in some of these communities. Folks, if you're investigating the Russian mob, where do you go?
Starting point is 00:17:22 To Italian communities? You go to Russian communities and you develop sources in those communities. We have gotten away from that and become obsessed with reading signals intelligence. We have got to get back to human intelligence development on the ground. It's how we cracked up the mob. It's how we've cracked up organized crime. It's how they broke up the fault and fish market. You need sources. We are not doing a good enough job there. And I believe this is more of a reflection on political interest than it is on law enforcement interest. Because they're afraid, Joe. Politicians are afraid.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Oh my gosh, we can't have sources in the Muslim community. It'll look like we're harassing and targeting. You're not harassing and targeting anyone. You're harassing and targeting potential criminals. There not harassing and targeting anyone. You're harassing and targeting potential criminals. There's nothing to do with Muslims. I've said to you on this show a thousand times, and I'll say it again. Don't dare, dare if you're alive, unless you're willing to get annihilated on social media or your email. Dare accuse me of your phobophobia, istaphobes. I've said clearly on the show to you, Joe and everyone who listens i remember after 9-11
Starting point is 00:18:25 a lot of patriotic americans who happen to be muslim calling our secret service office and saying hey you remember this story saying hey i got a tip i've got a tip for you here's what's going on with my you know my neighbor that happened all the time someone's gonna tell me about you know oh stop making about no one's making it about all Muslims. Idiot leftists are doing that. But there are people in the Muslim community doing real damage, just like there were people in the Russian community and the Italian community and the Irish community with the Westies. Stop making this a political issue and let's make it a survival issue. These people are at war with us. Don't be played for a fool. Back to human intelligence.
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Starting point is 00:21:24 Okay. Moving on, because I've got a lot of stuff to get to, and it's like backing up now over the days because there's so much stuff. I don't want to, again, beat this thing to death, but Andy McCarthy at National Review, who I really can't say enough about. Sorry, Joe, we didn't disconnect on Skype. That's just me. Folks, I'm really sorry about the drink of coffee during the show, but I literally am like, I don't want to say literally. People say, literally, people say literally too much. Figuratively, I am working every,
Starting point is 00:21:51 because that wouldn't be correct. I have an interview like every 10 minutes. So we're going to leave the coffee sips in there, Dano. Yeah, yeah, leave the coffee sips in there, please. Let's see, oh, the Manafort case. And Andy McCarthy over at National Review is really a phenomenal writer. I can't say enough about him. And I have been including in the show notes some of his pieces,
Starting point is 00:22:13 and I'm going to include another one today about this Russian investigation, the Manafort arrest, the Papadopoulos arrest and plea. And he had a piece yesterday yesterday and he nailed it again. This guy is just incredible and he's a really nice guy to boot. Yesterday during the show and the discussion of, and if you haven't,
Starting point is 00:22:35 I can't go over all three because I don't have time, but if you missed yesterday's show, please listen to it. I discussed why you're indicted federally versus using a complaint to arrest someone. When you want to arrest someone in the federal system, you can indict them federally versus using a complaint to arrest someone. When you want to arrest someone in the federal system, you can indict them or you can issue a complaint to get an arrest warrant. You can do an information to.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But usually when you do an indictment, it's meant to impress upon someone the seriousness of the crime because an indictment is very hard to dismiss. You can supersede it, but it's not. Complaints get dismissed all the time. So McCarthy asked an incredible question, Joe, which, darn, I think I may have missed during yesterday's show, and I'm so annoyed at myself. He said, if the indictment, which is more, in my opinion, more serious and more serious to a defense attorney, it sends a message, then a complaint. If the indictment was issued,
Starting point is 00:23:26 then why not come out with the whole kit and caboodle to scare him? In other words, Joe, and track me here if I'm losing it, if you're trying to send a message to a defense attorney, right, to say, we've got your client, Manafort, in the bag, and because you guys didn't talk,
Starting point is 00:23:43 now we're not going to do a complaint and arrest warrant or information. We're going to go for the full kit and caboodle indictment and we're going to take you to trial. Then why not fire the entire nuclear bomb at them? In other words, put everything, right? Yeah. I mean, you're trying to scare them, right?
Starting point is 00:23:57 So in other words, the point I'm trying to make, Joe, is if I'm trying to scare you, I don't do it with a Bozo the Clown mask. I do it with a Pennywise from It, right? Mask. That goofy Stephen King movie. I do it with the scariest clown mask possible. But McCarthy says that's not what they did. He's like, listen, what's with this indictment?
Starting point is 00:24:18 And he asks a question. He goes, why are there no tax charges in here? I mean, most of the indictment talks about money laundering and some form of tax fraud, but what's fascinating, Joe, is there's no actual tax evasion charges in there. So why not hit him hard?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Why not hit him hard out of the chute? Now, McCarthy's clear, and I think he makes a good point. I'm going to make it with you, too. Sniff. We obviously don't know what Mueller knows. Bob Mueller, the special counsel.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We don't know that. I mean, that goes without saying, right? Yeah. But folks, this doesn't make any sense. I really think in this case, Mueller, he's got some top-notch people working with him. Most of them Democrats who are making, I think, a partisan investigation. But they're not stupid people. I really think, Joe, this is all they have.
Starting point is 00:25:11 In other words, McCarthy says, are they hiding something? Are they waiting for later? Are they going to supersede later? But if you're going to supersede later with a bigger indictment, to do what? To send another message? Hey, we indicted you because we're serious. But Joe, now we're really serious with another in that what's the point why not hit them with everything right now
Starting point is 00:25:31 if your goal is to get cooperation and folks the reason i bring this up is i'm not sure this is going to go well for the democrats i'm not kidding i think we all have to listen i totally object to this special counsel right now i don't care who they investigate we already have a department of justice let me be crystal clear on that and i am not backing bob muller i think he's totally conflicted i think he should step aside and i think he's hired all the wrong people everybody clear on that yep okay great. Every Joe speaks for everybody. Yep. Speaking for the audience.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yep. Yep. I get all of that. But I do want to suggest to you that this may be all they have. This is it. This is your opening punch. This may be all they have.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They may have hoped for cooperation, got none, said, well, now we're screwed. We can't just tell them we're going to indict not. And this may backfire on the Democrats again, because the secondary target of this may be maybe the Podesta people called. group B in the indictment. Podesta's brother, who was working with Manafort's group and lobbying for foreign governments. I'm just saying, folks, it is very rare to come out with an indictment, punch someone in the face rather than a complaint, looking for cooperation, but to not hit them with everything if you're going to indict. Now, it's not unusual to leave a complaint light
Starting point is 00:27:05 because you don't want to tell the defense attorney what you have. You know what I'm saying, Joe? And you'll dismiss it later. But to leave an indictment like this when they've already signaled there's not going to be any cooperation is very strange to me. All right, enough of that because I've been talking about it for three days. But please, it's important because this is, I think the status of our justice system is at stake. I mean,
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Starting point is 00:29:09 Six more. Let's get to this one because this one's important. I didn't get to talk about it yesterday. So there's a real scam going on right now with the Democrats. Joe, shocker. Big scam.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Never happens, right? Big scam going on with the Democrats with Obamacare right now. Now, you know, I know the obamacare right now now i you know i know the obamacare topic gets old i totally understand that and you know they'll tell you in radio joe can probably tell you know you never tell the audience like in advance like things are going to get old because i want to tune out no i i don't do that i i consider you all friends
Starting point is 00:29:40 and i i just want to preface that by telling you it does get old and that's why i try to avoid discussing obamacare stuff because I feel like we beat it to death. But this was interesting because there was an angle to this story that I did not see coming. I saw the scam, but I didn't see what was going on
Starting point is 00:29:58 and I'm like, damn it, I got to bring that up to my audience. It was a cool story. So here's the gist of it. I'm not going to put it in the show notes today, folks, because I'm getting a lot of complaints about putting Wall Street Journal links in there because it's subscriber only.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So I'll try to find a different article, but I'll just tell you the gist of the story. It was a good one. It was in the journal a couple of days ago, and it said,
Starting point is 00:30:16 it's how long I've been holding this thing, that the Obamacare premiums for the silver plans are scheduled to go up 37% next year. Yeah! Nice job, Obamacare.
Starting point is 00:30:24 This Obamacare is terrific. And I mean, if they're not going up by double digits, then pretty soon it'll be triple digits. Then it'll be quadruple digits, right? So Obamacare premiums are going up next year, 37%, meaning you're going to get a bill if you were on an Obamacare compliant plan that is going to be through the roof for your monthly premiums. Now, the story talks about what's going on behind the scenes, that Democrats are in a panic for obvious reasons. So the bill, despite its actual name, the Affordable Care Act, everybody calls it Obamacare. Wouldn't you agree?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yes, I would. Now, they thought this was going to be a strategic asset, but now they're starting to realize, and this is why, as I mentioned in a prior show, that when you hear Democrats talk about Obamacare now, they never say Obamacare. They say the Affordable Care Act because they don't want this thing tagged with Obama. They don't want it tagged with Obama. They want some otherworldly sounding name, which separates it from the Democrat party, because they know it's crap. They're trying to figure out a message to explain away what's going on right now with these 37% premiums going up next year. So what they've settled on, Joe, is that Trump sabotaged it. You're going to see this word all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Remember, the Democrats live off the talking point. And the talking point is it was sabotaged by Trump because Trump won't advertise Obamacare to young invincibles, meaning young people who should buy into Obamacare. Folks, think about this. This isn't the dumbest talking point. And the Democrats, they have so many dumb talking points that sorting through the dumb ones is genuinely tough to do. This ranks up there, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:31:54 top two or three dumbest talking points ever. They're saying now because Trump did not advertise Obamacare. Joe, nobody knows about Obamacare. Did you know that? Nobody's heard of it. It's only existed now for years through multiple elections. You know, Obama practically celebrated it when he started. So they're saying, oh, all these young people aren't joining Obamacare because they don't know about it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And the Republicans aren't. But keep in mind, they are spending money to market it because it's been allocated. But they're not spending what the Democrats think we should do hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever to advertise to young people to join this here is why this is so dumb let me turn the page because i took some data points on this which i thought were hysterical it is obamacare's own frankly piss poor design that is keeping young people from joining actual obamacare what's happening right now folks they need the money from young healthy people their premium money to be paid to health insurance companies so that health insurance companies can keep premiums down
Starting point is 00:32:57 for everyone else but where are the young people going joe they're not going on obamacare they're staying on their parents plan till 26 till they're 26 well why are they doing that because that was written into obamacare ladies and gentlemen if this is not one of the dumbest decisions i've it doesn't end there by the way young people who were supposed to offset the premiums for older, sicker people and join Obamacare are now not joining Obamacare because Obamacare had a line in it which enabled the same young people to stay on their parents' plan until they're 26 and not join individual market Obamacare exchanges. If you're like, uh, huh?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yes. You know what? I missed that angle and I was really, really annoyed at myself. I'm like, gosh, huh? Yes. You know what? I missed that angle, and I was really, really annoyed at myself. I'm like, gosh, I should have told. This is the beauty of Democrat stupidity. They blame Republicans for writing a law where they need young people to join a plan that incentivizes people, young people, to not join said plan and join another plan. Not only that, Joe, and I got some numbers for you in a second. The Medicaid expansion.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Obamacare expanded Medicaid to way beyond the poverty line. Who's joining Medicaid? The same young people who were supposed to be joining Obamacare, which, let's be clear, are individual market plans. What are they doing? They're joining me. You think we don't have the numbers here? Here's how many young people are in Medicaid right now.
Starting point is 00:34:30 In contrast to people on individual market Obamacare plans, it would be just for these young kids alone, not group plans, not Medicaid, not S-CHIP, none of that, right? There were 13.4 million of these young invincibles on Medicaid. There were 3 million on Obamacare. i'm gonna leave it at this when your liberal friends want to argue with you because that's your trump sabotaging the plan be like no no no no hold on time out how oh they're not marketing not mark clearly they're marketing enough joe well how do we know that because young people are are joining of obamacare just not obamacare plans they're joining obamacare on their parents plan till they're 26 which was obamacare and they're joining through the medicaid
Starting point is 00:35:17 expansion which you're paying for they're just not joining actual obamacare plans so how can they be sabotaging a plan that sabotaged itself? But again, you know, dopey Dems, don't let that get in the way of another stupid argument about how we're all sabotaging and destroying Obamacare when it was written to sabotage itself.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Does that make sense, Joe? Yeah, Houston, we got a problem. Houston, we got a big problem. You wanted young invincibles to join the individual market while incentivizing them to stay out join the individual market while incentivizing them to stay out of the individual market sign up for medicare and stay on their parents plan great hey great job dems only a democrat would see that as a viable way forward on an economically
Starting point is 00:35:57 effective health care but only a democrat because two plus two equals 77 to them. Oh, my gosh. All right. Let's see. Oh, this was a really terrific piece. There was a piece in the journal this weekend that I really took to. They do these profiles, the Wall Street Journal, which are interesting. They're longer profiles, up to sometimes 2,000 or more words on people on the weekend. I always find them fascinating. It's such a diverse group of people. But this weekend they did a profile on a woman named Erica Comisar,
Starting point is 00:36:29 I think is how you pronounce it. Forgive me, Miss Comisar, if I'm saying it wrong, maybe Commisar, but the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:36:35 the piece was about the left's war on motherhood. Now this woman does not profess to be any type of conservative. I don't even think she mentions her party affiliation in the piece, but it's clear. She's not a conservative. I don't even think she's a Republican. It doesn't really matter. But she did some research, Joe, and the research is something you all need to hear because it was a real eye-opener for me and my wife. And we sat on the couch and talked about this for a good Saturday morning. My wife calls it relax-y time, not relaxing, relax-y, which I always find kind of funny. So we're talking and we're chilling out and we've had a sense of regret. I mean, if I just be
Starting point is 00:37:10 candid, because my wife's going to kill me for talking about this, but we had a real sense of regret because the core of the piece was this, folks. This woman who's being attacked now by the left put together scientific research. It's not her opinion. It's an opinion based on science that the first thousand days of your child's life, roughly three years, that you're the mother. It would be nice to have the mother and the father, but very specifically the mother. The mother has to be there for that child to develop in the most, I'm going to be very in the most efficient best way possible now why is that joe it's not just like oh because it is because we we love them yeah of course we love them we get all that this was science this wasn't you know
Starting point is 00:37:55 remember the joe the left love science remember that yeah but that that myth but this is fascinating joe she says in the piece that goes to show you how sick liberals are. They love to tell you how much they love science. That in the first thousand days, a child has almost no functioning nervous system on a self-regulatory front. I mean, the nervous system works, obviously. It's sending signals. I think that's obvious. But she says that it has no ability, a child's nervous system,
Starting point is 00:38:23 to regulate their own emotions. And she says, you know, think about it. And she gets into some detail on it. She says, you know, when a child cries, an infant, you know, one or two-year-old infant, a six-month-old infant, Joe, and you know this, you know, I mean, I know it with my kids. They won't stop unless there's no reason for it. I mean, maybe they're hungry or whatever. But it's probably more energy exhaustive
Starting point is 00:38:46 to continue crying than it would be to just stop and preserve your energy. But kids don't get, they can't self-regulate. So she says in that thousand days, the mother who has a unique ability through the presence of oxytocin
Starting point is 00:39:00 and some hormones that the mother has that the father doesn't. The father's instinct is to be protective and in some cases aggressive while the mother's is to sue. This is her words. This is their science, not mine. She says the mother acts as the baby's central nervous system, which I found fascinating.
Starting point is 00:39:18 In other words, children in their first three years learn to self-regulate through the mother. The mother grabs them, Joe, sues years, learn to self-regulate through the mother. The mother grabs them, Joe, sues them, picks them up. You know, you've all been there. Mothers are probably, you know, you pat the child, you burp the child, you feed the child. And the child eventually learns through the mother's signals how to use its own central nervous system to regulate, and this is important, and control their own emotions. So she makes a couple of leaps in here and talks about some things,
Starting point is 00:39:54 and I'll make a leap she doesn't make directly, but is this the cause right now of a lot of our societal problems with crime, behavioral malignancy i mean i don't know it's a big leap but the point i'm sure which and i believe what she's saying is absolutely true by the way you know my wife and i sat on the couch and we were like gosh you know because my wife worked really hard we did you know we were you know we had to make it we we had we had to make money i mean what are you gonna do joe, Joe? I mean, you and I, none of us are rich.
Starting point is 00:40:28 So we had to put our youngest in daycare. And my wife and I sat there for a good half hour, an hour, like feeling really awful about our first child. And she spent a good amount of time in daycare. And we brought relatives in and we did the best we could. And we felt terrible about it. And here's the point. I lived through this. So i get i'm going to
Starting point is 00:40:45 get a lot of emails from people but the woman who's just did a scientific study it's not she doesn't she's not making political observations on it i mean she does suggest that a child tax credit but the left's going after her joe and they won't a lot of them won't even publish the articles or the research because they're saying oh oh, you're going to make women feel bad. Folks, no one's trying to make anybody feel bad. I mean, it's a genuine question. A genuine question should be, are you or are you not interested in what may or may not be better for the development of your child? I am.
Starting point is 00:41:16 It made me feel bad. But gosh, I wish I would have known this before, Joe, right? Maybe we could have made a more informed decision. Yeah. Maybe we could have adjusted our work schedules a little differently. I mean, what, you just don't want to know? I mean, that to me speaks again
Starting point is 00:41:31 to a liberal agenda of nothing but controlling how people think, even when people think doesn't align with the science or the reality. Don't let people, oh my gosh, we can't have that. It'll destroy our war on women narrative. We can't tell women that the first thousand days are critical.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Why not? Why can't you tell them that? Of course not every woman's going to have the or man or household are going to have the ability to stay home with their child for the first thousand days. Of course not. But can we all just make informed decisions without the left's
Starting point is 00:42:04 constant effort, Joe, to mislead and gaslight all of us tell us lies and isolate us from the truth it's really not fair yeah but it's a really great piece if you google it you'll see i just again it's a subscription only piece but i gave you the gist of it hey Hey, should I get that? One last story. I'll wrap this up quick. There's a story in Legal Insurrection out there about a proposal to, well, no, I'm sorry. This was another journal piece,
Starting point is 00:42:34 but I got the idea of it from a Ben Shapiro speech, which he's apparently preparing to give at a college, and they want to charge a massive security fee, and I've warned you about these security fees in the past. These security fees are nothing but an excuse right now to shut down free speech, making people pay money they don't have. You know what I'm saying, Joe? Sure.
Starting point is 00:42:53 So one of the proposals out there is, well, if I saw this, and this was from a right-leaning guy, that, well, maybe we should start pulling funding from universities that don't support free speech. I just want to leave it at this. Maybe we should not be getting in the university don't support free speech. I just want to leave it at this. Maybe we should not be getting in the university funding business at all. Right, Joe? And let the market decide.
Starting point is 00:43:14 You want to send your kid to a crap school that bans conservatives from campus? Pull them out of there. Let's just get the federal government out of it altogether. I think it's a really bad idea, federal funding, in the first place. And I don't think we should argue for pulling or giving federal funding anywhere. Let's just pull federal funding altogether and let these universities stand on their own. I mean, here's just a quick number for you on this. Let me see. I wrote this down yesterday. 2015, Joe, $38 billion went to universities from DC, 60% of all their research budgets. You know what? Let the market decide, folks. Keep that money back in the economy. Let's not get into who should get or who
Starting point is 00:43:49 should not get money. These universities are doing us a huge disservice with their war on free speech, but anytime we start getting into government funding and arguing for or against it, you're making the case that government funding initially is a good thing, and that's a big mistake. All right. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it. Please go to Bongino.com and subscribe to my email list there. I'll send you these articles right into your email box. Thanks a lot, folks. I'll see you all tomorrow. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.
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