The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 587 Democrats Sent a Message to America, Facts don’t Matter
Episode Date: November 9, 2017In this episode - Here’s the hard truth about who is responsible for the latest economic growth numbers. Here’s a hint, it’s not Obama. http://dailysignal.com/2017/11/07/why-the-left-has-been...-so-wrong-about-the-trump-boom/ Why is the CBO screwing with us about Obamacare? http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/453539/cbo-and-health-care-debate Here are some hard numbers about the national debt that liberals choose to ignore. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453359/entitlement-reform-required-tax?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR%20Daily%20Monday%20through%20Friday%202017-11-02&utm_term=NR5PM%20Actives Confidence in the economy is exploding, so why are liberals so angry? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/boom-publics-confidence-in-job-growth-highest-ever-recorded/article/2640005 Contrary to Obama mythology wages have been growing but, not for the well-off. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-09/why-is-u-s-wage-growth-so-low-it-s-all-about-the-top-80 New Jersey is bankrupt and yet, it just voted for more spending. http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/06/neither-major-party-gubernatorial-candid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host
dan bongino all right welcome to dan bongino show producer joe how are you today man i'm ready to go
how about you i'm good folks i love your emails i really do daniel at bongino.com but gosh if you
are gonna correct me on the show which i people do all the time, right, Joe? Yeah.
All the time.
Oh, yeah.
Especially about horrible cultural references, pop culture, which I'm nearly always wrong on.
But if you're going to correct me and take the time, you got to get it right.
This is now the third email I've gotten about my reference to the kangaroo courts in one of the Batman movies.
The Batman movie with Bane in it.
There's no time.
This isn't the time to be afraid doctor
that comes later but i love that character bane what is tom hardy you played him the court was
run by the scarecrow in that movie i'm not wrong i've had to send a youtube clip to at least three
people now who've tried to correct me it's not bane's court it's the scarecrow and i love this
one guy he's a nice guy. Emails me.
I think I've heard from a couple of those.
But he's like, oh, okay. But it wasn't really the scarecrow.
It was just the same character playing the scarecrow.
Wait, what?
What are you talking about?
It's the same guy.
It's the same.
Same guy.
For all you folks who are regular listeners, same guy.
Same guy.
Same guy.
You know the Clinton reference, right, Joe?
Same guy.
It's the same guy.
It's the scarecrow's court. Gosh, I cannot send that youtube clip to any more people i promise you i'm right on
that one all right i got a lot to talk about today listen i mean i'm a little i'm in a good
mood today i got a couple events but i i am a little salty in some respects too because
again i woke up this morning go to the gym of course i'm injured as always
crap's falling apart everywhere so i had to actually quit my workout halfway through which Again, I woke up this morning, go to the gym. Of course, I'm injured as always.
Crap's falling apart everywhere.
So I had to actually quit my workout halfway through, which I never do.
But I came home, put together the show.
And for a guy who's falling apart, I'm in a surprisingly good mood today because I got a lot of great news coming in the future
and a lot of surprises for you folks.
But I was reading a bunch of articles and a bunch of listener emails I got.
And I'm like, my gosh, Joe, we live in a fact-free universe.
I'm not kidding.
We live in a fact-free universe right now in politics.
It doesn't seem like outside of the conservatives and libertarians, anybody else cares about actual facts on the ground.
So what's the genesis of this thing?
Where did it start?
So I'm reading an article in the Journal this morning by Dan Henninger.
And the core of the piece was that the lessons that, remember I said yesterday how the Republicans are going to learn all the wrong lessons from what happened in Virginia and New Jersey's
governor's races yesterday?
Sure.
Well, as it turns out, Joe, conveniently, the Democrats are learning all the wrong lessons
too.
Now, a topic near and dear to my heart
is the Democrats' obsession with identity politics.
In other words, calling everybody a racist or a misogynist
or a transphobe or a phobophobe,
it's the phobic, phobophobe.
Everybody hates someone if you're a Democrat.
That's how they get people to vote,
by telling you Republicans hate you.
So as it turns out,
the Republicans are going to take
all the wrong lessons out of this,
meaning that they should distance themselves from conservatism and moderate more, even though Gillespie was a moderate and lost by nine points.
The lesson Democrats are taking away, according to Henninger, and he's right because I've heard this from a couple of people on an email list as well.
Is that identity politics works and we got to do more of this phobic phobic is the phobia.
And you're like, oh, my gosh, more of this. Reallyophobic histophobia. And you're like, oh my gosh, more of this?
Really? It's
never going to end. Apparently
the turnout numbers
from Virginia, and these are
fact-based numbers, the
turnout, Joe, was very high
in younger college
towns, amongst
single women,
groups, again, targeted by the phobophobia
istaphobic identity politics you know war war on women you know if you're young you know that they
appeal to this you know it's all about rights and it's about lgbt right listen nobody's taking
anybody's rights away this is so in other words the identity politics wing of the party they feel
like they're vindicated joe after getting just frankly annihilated um the identity politics wing of the party they feel like they're vindicated joe after
getting just frankly annihilated um using identity politics strategies and you know losing thousands
of seats across the country during eight years of obama so you know as uh someone tweeted to me
yesterday you know good luck good luck democrats nice job winning those races 980 more seats and
you'll be back where you were before obama president, which is true. 900 plus more seats and you'll gain back what you lost in the eight years
of Obama. So what I find amazing about this is the Democrats are willing now to double down on
stupid. Despite eight years of Obama calling everybody, you were racists and homophobes and
transaphobes and the Obama administration and the liberals, despite getting wiped out, they've had
a mild success in Virginia and New Jersey,
two blue states.
Actually, I shouldn't say mild.
Virginia was pretty much a wipeout for Republicans.
I don't want to be like Democrats and lie to you.
But they're taking that as a referendum
on identity politics.
Now you may say, well, Dan, are they right?
Does identity politics work or does it not, right?
I mean, you seem to be mocking it like it doesn't work.
Folks, it doesn't.
And it's interesting because even in Henninger's piece,
he doesn't kind of get too into this,
but he acknowledges that Ralph Northam,
the guy who won, the Democrat who won
the Virginia's governor's race show,
was really a moderate on a lot of things.
I mean, he voted for George W. Bush twice.
He had considered being a Republican. Listen, I mean, he voted for George W. Bush twice. He had considered being a
Republican. Listen, I wouldn't have voted for the guy. I'm not endorsing the guys. I'm just telling
you that in the end, he flip-flopped on sanctuary cities and said he would not vote for sanctuary
cities. So he was not like, I'm not suggesting this guy's a good candidate. I'm just telling
you he was not a Bernie Sanders kind of guy.
He actually beat a Sanders kind of guy in the primary.
What I'm telling you, Joe, is it wasn't identity politics that did this.
This is a huge mistake.
But the Democrats love calling people racist and misogynist.
It's their thing.
They're just angry, angry people, as I said yesterday.
So I'm asking you, and I'm going to start the show off today. I'm going to debunk
some stuff here because we're living in this fact-free universe. And the point of this whole
thing is I think people are being suckers. You're being a sucker. If you were voting Democrat,
you are being a sucker. And I put in big, bold capital letters on my show prep sheet here,
you're choosing a political party over your kids.
And believe me, I mean every word of that,
no matter how painful that is for you to hear.
I mean it.
You are choosing allegiance to a political party
over your kids, your future, your wallet,
your state solvency, everything, potentially your pension fund,
you are throwing away, you're flushing down the toilet bowl your entire future over an
allegiance to a party brand that is absolutely destroying you.
Now, what do I mean by that?
Look at what happened in new jersey joe new jersey a deep blue state now
used to be relatively republican i mean ronald reagan won it george hw bush won it
new jersey is effectively bankrupt new jersey is bankrupt from far left big government spending
policies you need the numbers because we do numbers because you think i'm making any of this up new jersey's bankrupt joe their pension debt
alone for government pensions in new jersey their pension debt alone is an astonishing staggering
135 billion dollars that is their pension debt.
That is $15,000 for every single man, woman, and child
who lives in the state of New Jersey
just to pay the pensions of government employees in New Jersey.
And the guy they elect, Phil Murphy,
is a run-of-the-mill Sandernista socialist,
former Goldman Sachs guy.
It was amazing that he worked at Goldman Sachs and wound up becoming half a communist.
They elect a guy who promises to double down on big government.
Where?
Where are you getting the money?
Where are you getting the money?
Where are you getting the money?
Where are you getting the money?
Every single person in New Jersey needs to pay $15,000 now
to finance just the debt
to pay the government employees
who aren't even working anymore
and a pension.
You want to double down on government spending?
Where? Where are you going to double down on government spending? Where?
Where are you going to get the money?
The money fairy?
I mean, I've got more of these.
I am sincerely asking you, citizens of New Jersey,
who voted for this guy?
What the hell are you thinking?
Hey, Trump, we had to send a message. who voted for this guy? What the hell are you thinking? Oh,
we hate Trump.
We had to send a message.
What?
What?
To bankrupt your kids?
We hate Trump.
So we voted to bankrupt our kids.
Good job.
That's great.
That's really sound logic.
I love,
talk about,
I'm like,
I got like mucus coming out of my nose.
Cause I'm laughing.
So you should never laugh at your own jokes, nor tell people about mucus.
But I woke up this way.
I can't believe it.
I'm like, it's even in the Wall Street Journal articles.
I call Rove wrote a piece to call.
And I like Rove.
I don't like his establishment politics, but Rove's a nice guy.
I work with.
He's not a bad guy.
I don't like that to make personal attacks on people.
It's not necessary.
I don't like I said, I don't agree with his insider brand of politics,
but he's always been a decent guy to me and other Secret Service guys.
But he's like, they wanted to send a message to Trump.
What?
What's the message?
We have no money.
Our state is completely bankrupt.
So let's elect a guy who's going to spend more money we don't have.
What message is that?
Joe, another kicker about that.
And by the way, I run a national, actually international show.
We get a lot of emails from people out of the country.
So I appreciate that.
So you may say, why are you talking about New Jersey?
I've got more other stuff here.
But again, the umbrella point I'm trying to make is
you are choosing allegiance to a political brand.
Despite living in a fact free universe, you voted Democrat in New Jersey, despite all of the facts showing you that those very same Democrat policies have bankrupted your state.
There's no money. Now, you may say, well, we had a Republican governor.
I'm not I'm not allied to the republican brand yes the republican governor did democrat things the republican
conservative brand is fiscal responsibility tax effective tax rates and low tax rates that's not
what christy did he may call himself a republican but I don't align myself with the brand. I align myself
with the policy. I'm telling you the policies have bankrupted you and your state and you voted
for a mathematically certain, arithmetically certain bankruptcy. There is no money. If you
really believe that this guy, Phil Murphy's the future of the state, why not fork over a $15,000
check right now and balance out the
state pension fund?
Joe, is that not a fair question?
That's
what's owed. You believe this is effective.
Paying state pensions,
there's no money. You can't
afford them. Then write a check.
No, no, I don't want
to write a check. Everybody else should write a check.
Then you're a phony.
You're just a fraud. you're just a fraud you're just a fake Joe
last year
if they were to just balance out the pension
fund last year
they would have had to cut a 4 billion
dollar check in New Jersey
you know what check they wrote
700 million
now you have Jay Zabacus around we haven't gone to Jay Zabacus in a while poor Jay check in New Jersey. You know what check they wrote? $700 million.
Now, you have Jay Zabacus around? We haven't gone to
Jay Zabacus in a while. Poor Jay.
Jay Zabacus, or
as other people call him, Jay
Zabacus. I found him. It was
buried under a bunch of computer stuff.
That's cool.
Dude, you gotta keep that. We got Steve's
dictionary, too. We haven't gone to that in a while, but I gotta
prep you in advance for that. I should be leafing through the book.
Okay.
Now, I'm going to give you two numbers.
I want you to tell me what's greater.
So they were supposed to make a payment last year of $4 billion.
So that's your first number.
Okay, $4 billion.
Get the abacus ready.
Move your things around.
Make sure.
It's going to be complicated math here.
$4 billion.
Okay.
The payment they made last year in New Jersey to the pension fund was $700 million with an M.
Now, move your stuff around.
I'm going to ask you.
It's a complicated mathematical question only Jay Zabacus can figure out.
What is greater, $4 billion or $700 million?
$4 billion, Dan.
$4 billion!
$4 billion is greater!
Man!
Gosh! 4 billion. 4 billion is greater. Gosh, I'm reading this in the gym this morning
because I actually did get my cardio in
before I really ripped my shoulder out
trying to bench press my own body weight,
you know, 5,000 times.
4 billion.
You didn't even make that mark last year
because 700 million is not 4 billion.
It's less than a quarter by simple math.
You didn't even have the money last year,
no less than $135 billion more you need to pay off the pensions.
Oh, man.
Again, we live in a fact-free universe.
Fact-free.
We need to vote for the Democrat, take care of those pensions.
Where are you going to get the money?
I don't know. You going to get the money? I don't know.
You're going to write a check.
I ain't write no check.
Okay.
All right.
Here's another one.
I get an email yesterday from a young man.
Nice guy.
Sorry.
I'm really like on fire today.
Sends me an email saying that, man, I can't believe this.
I'm arguing with my liberal friends.
And, you know, the economic growth has been good
in the first six months under Trump,
but they're saying that was all due to Obama.
Oh, Joe.
Yeah, Dan, I know.
Joe.
You can't win, folks.
We live in a universe of stupid.
We live in a stupid soup where like,
you know,
you know that chicken noodle soup where liberals are like the little chunky
pieces of chicken floating in the stupid soup,
this stupid soup.
It never ends with these people.
So let me get this straight.
Under eight years of Barack Obama,
we have not managed to recover from the recession
with any substantial growth rates matching anywhere close to our historical rates.
Obama leaves office.
Trump comes into office.
Growth rates pick up immediately to levels Obama said would never happen again, 3%.
And Barack Obama gets credit for that.
That makes sense to you?
Are you seriously, are you clinically insane?
Wasn't this Scarecrow
in one of the Batman movies
like a psychologist or something?
Maybe you need to go see that dude
because you are seriously
out of your mind.
You are Looney Tunes.
Now, in case you think
I'm making any of this up,
these numbers,
I have a terrific piece in the show notes today. I am imploring you to read. Always available at Bongino.com. And again, if you want to subscribe to my email list, formerly of the Heritage Foundation of the Wall Street Journal. He's now writing pieces for Heritage at the Daily Signal, which is their blog.
And there is a Daily Signal piece, very short, probably 500 words or less,
describing the phenomenon exactly as I'm telling it to you now. In direct quotes, Joe, from Obama
administration economic advisors, direct quotes, he's not making this up steve moore of obama
people and economic advisors jason firman who you know i can't i dislike a lot uh he writes he's a
piece in the wall street journal today um well today's isn't horrible but he was an obama
administration economic advisor as well firman direct quotes from him and others larry summers
saying how three percent growth will never happen in the future.
Trump's been in office six months.
We've hit 3% growth twice the last two quarters.
I'm just giving you the quotes.
I'm just giving, you understand,
I'm just giving you their own quotes.
I'm not making it up.
I didn't even find the quotes.
Stephen Moore did.
This is how easy it is to do this podcast sometimes
all you have to do is google like obama administration three percent growth and
you'll see everyone saying you know what they'll say about it three percent growth that ain't gonna
happen it just happened folks we are living in a fact-free universe It just happened. Just look it up.
Go to the interweb.
Just look it up.
Just Google economic growth rates.
Last two quarters.
How the hell did Obama do that?
He was in office eight years.
We never hit one year.
One year of 3% growth.
That's just a fact.
If you were the liberal.
Driving my listener crazy who emailed
me today about how Obama somehow is responsible for Trump's economic growth rates, how? Please
explain to me how the minute he left office, the economy picked up. Oh, he laid the groundwork for
eight years. He laid eight years of groundwork. he is the only president in modern american history to never
hit three percent growth in any year of his presidency despite being elected twice unlike
jimmy carter and yes obama is responsible for the growth rates the growth rates the minute he leaves
office that makes sense to you can you be this dumb i guess the answer is yes, you can.
Now, in the Stephen Moore piece, it's just quotes from Obama people.
3% growth, that ain't going to happen.
Idiots.
Trump's stupid, 3% growth.
That's not going to happen.
It just happened.
It really happened in the real world.
Now, Joe, the Obama administration's average growth rate through its eight years 2.2 percent i'm sorry that fact bothers you i'm sorry you have no access to the internet i'm sorry your
brain functions like that of a seven-year-old just look it up you think obama is responsible You think Obama's responsible for that? This is like when you grab head and you smash into desk.
You're like, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Right, eight years.
The only president in modern American history
to never hit a 3% growth rate,
whose economic advisors are quoted in this piece today
telling you 3% growth is nearly impossible.
Obama leaves office.
We hit 3% growth twice over two quarters.
And then they want to tell you Obama did it
despite Obama's people telling you
Obama can't do it and no one can do it.
So let's just be clear on this.
Obama, no 3% growth.
Obama's economic team, 3% growth is impossible.
Obama's not going to do it.
No one's going to do it.
Obama leaves office.
Trump, 3% growth twice.
And your conclusion from those data points are Obama's responsible for economic growth.
Oh, my God.
Are you a moron?
You have, I mean, you seriously have to have like, did you drink formaldehyde?
What is wrong with this?
Are your neurons like the dendrites drying up
is axonal transmission not happening what do they call those things the myelin sheaths are
they rotted away the nodes of rain veer are they not working are your neurotransmitters being
blocked somehow do you understand you live in a fact-free world? Nothing you say is backed
up by anything that's actually real. New Jersey, you're broke. Obama's economic theories are broke.
These are facts. These are their own people. These are things called numbers. Quotes, in case you
don't know what quotes are, folks, by the way, quotes, quotes means someone actually said something and you're quoting it.
So when we quote Obama, people saying 3% growth is impossible as 3% growth is actually happening now that Obama is out of office.
It's pretty difficult to include that Obama is then subsequently responsible for 3% growth.
If you are not a colossal imbecile.
Man alive, Joe.
I love my life.
I love my show.
I love Jesus Christ, man.
I do.
I love my wife, my kids.
Life is good.
It's good.
I enjoy doing this.
But man, it is so hard sometimes to get up and have to tell you this every day, knowing that we'll grab a few people and we'll change a few hearts in my know because I get the emails.
But that on a mass scale, people won't hear this and just wake up and say, really?
Am I really in a fact free world?
Yes, you are.
And you say, oh, you're just spouting off Republican talking points.
Pouting.
I was a Freudian slip.
I'm not.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I've been disappointed by the Republicans.
We've done entire shows on what the crap they're producing.
I mean, really? What are they doing right now?
Nothing.
I mean, I just told you on yesterday's show, if you missed it, that the reason they're losing in Virginia is because they can't quell Democrat anger because they have nothing to talk about.
Look at our legislative accomplishments.
We did nothing.
Nice job.
That's a great one.
All right. I's a great one. All right.
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Yesterday, I had this sent in by a viewer who sent it to me this morning,
but I got to tell you, buddy,
I was way on top of this story
before you sent me the email.
Did you see the USA Today story, Joe,
about the AR-15?
No, I didn't.
Oh, my.
Did you miss a doozy?
How did you guys not cover this this morning at WCBM?
You need to walk into Sean and Frank tomorrow.
Are they both in this week?
I didn't work today.
Oh, damn it.
That's right.
That's why you didn't hear it, because Joe's off this week.
You need to call WCBM and put this on the air.
So, folks, if you missed this yesterday, USA Today,
and when I saw the tweet, I want to be crystal clear,
I swear I thought it was a joke.
And that's why it took me so long last night on Twitter
to jump on the Twitter train and start firing back.
No pun intended.
They USA Today tweeted out like a moving pictogram, like a little video about the AR-15.
And the gist of it was, and I'll put an article in the show notes where you can see it yourself about this.
Because you're not going to believe this, folks.
And they're like, here's the AR-15 used in the Sutherland Springs shooting.
And here are some modifications you can make to it.
And at first it starts out innocently enough.
They're like, you know, buttstock, flashlight, you know, laser sight.
You know what I'm saying?
Like an optic on top.
All right, whatever whatever and then at the
end it gets crazy it's like
shotgun bayonet
attachment and then
Joe I'm not kidding it
says and here's another one
a chainsaw bayonet
dude what
dude I saw this thing
and I'm like this gotta be someone hacked
the USA Today Twitter account USA Today what dude i saw this thing and i'm like this this gotta be someone hacked the usa today twitter
account usa today thinks that this is people are you see wait just so we're all where i don't want
to mess this up for you because i i was so excited to talk about this i tend to sometimes stumble
over my words out of pure passion for the argument here usa today is seriously suggesting in one of
america's formerly great newspapers that americans are out there modifying the ar-15s with chainsaw
bayonets joe you get what i'm talking about right you know what a bayonet is right sure yeah
of course you do joe likes guns just like I do. A chainsaw bayonet?
This is not a joke.
They really put this out.
So now as I tweeted out last night,
I really don't like Twitter pylons.
Where's my chair number?
I don't like Twitter pylons because I've been on the other side of them
and it's not fun.
But man, this kind of stupid absolutely deserved the twitter
pile on and i had to jump in that the minute i found out this was in fact true so people started
sending back other alterations people if you're going to suggest that that's a commonly made
alteration a joe have you ever in your life seen a chainsaw bay and at an ar-15 no no no you've
probably never heard of it before yesterday.
Apparently, there's a video game,
Game of War or something.
I don't know.
Someone emailed me and said
that in that video game,
the guy has a chainsaw bayonet AR-15.
So maybe the kid who wrote the USA Today piece
plays this video game.
I don't know.
But folks, I know these are actually available.
Chainsaw Bay.
I mean, you can make a bayonet out of anything.
I mean, some guys sent back to them, you know, you could make a velociraptor bayonet, you
know, like a fake velociraptor on the bottom.
I mean, if you wanted to, when you were stronger, you could make a shark bayonet.
Like you could fish for a shark and like tie him around the barrel and like the sharks
like he's snapping at the bad guy.
Now you need some water once in a while to run over his skills.
But I mean, you can make a bayonet out of a baseball bat, right, Joe?
Get a few belts, belt it to the end of the barrel,
and you could hit curveballs, fastballs, sliders, knucklers, whatever you want.
The point of the piece is USA Today, a major American publication, put out a moving pictogram video kind of thing insinuating that chainsaw bayonets were a functionally and readily available item that Americans are using as modifications on their AR-15.
Folks, we are living in a fact-free universe.
living in a fact-free universe. A chainsaw bayonet? Is that not a scare tactic meant to tell dopey liberals who are unbelievably impressionable that this is actually happening in the real world?
Because it's not. This is a gag. No shooter I know, competitive shooter, hunter, someone just
interested in self-defense who has an AR-15, would seriously put a chainsaw bayonet at the end of his firearm.
A chainsaw?
How would you even hold that up?
You know, seriously, if I'm going to engage with a dude, I want the dude with the chainsaw
bayonet because he's not going to hit anything because he's too busy trying to hold up the
damn chainsaw.
Oh, man, is this stupid.
And liberals will go out.
I mean, not to mention on the Sutherland Springs tragedy, by the way,
that liberals cannot seem to get past the fact that this guy already broke the law.
As they simultaneously advocate for new laws in their fact-free universe,
they are unwilling to accept the fact that the shooter in Sutherland Springs, Joe,
already broke the law.
Yeah.
He bashed in the skull of his stepson.
He was a convicted domestic abuser.
He already broke the law.
So your suggestion is what?
More laws that won't work?
So the laws we have now, he didn't obey.
And by the way, a bureaucratic screw up by the
government allowed him to buy a gun so you're suggesting the same government that screwed it
up should introduce more laws that what he won't break in the future you're just again you're in a
fact in your fact-free universe people are using chainsaw bayonets, and laws work despite the laws not working in this case
because the government you want to introduce new laws
forgot to enforce the old laws
and forgot to put his domestic violence conviction into NICs.
That's great.
You libs really make convincing arguments all the time.
So New Jersey's broke.
Let's vote for more bankruptcy.
Obama's responsible for Trump's growth despite Obama's own people saying those Trump growth rates are impossible and Obama never reaching them. And yes, chainsaw bayonets are real and more gun laws will work, despite the gun laws already on the books not working to stop the crime we already saw that you're sitting there suggesting new laws would have stopped.
new laws would have stopped.
How?
I mean, keep voting Democrat, folks.
Keep it up.
I mean, seriously, keep it up.
I know the Republicans suck.
I know it.
Not all of them, but a good swath.
Believe me, I've been betrayed by,
that's why I'm trying to get out of this.
I'm only endorsing like friends I know anymore because I don't trust anyone.
But man, you live in a fact-free universe.
We said a signal, Trump.
Signal.
Signal what?
What signal?
What signal?
That you're an idiot?
That you don't understand basic math?
You know, Joe, when we set up our shop, that's coming soon.
I got to say, we have to produce an abacus.
Well, we'll name it after you.
We'll call it Joe's abacus.
Seriously.
Because it's like liberals, they don't even understand basic facts.
Okay, here's more, in case you think I'm crazy.
So, there's an interesting article at National Review.
And I get articles that may be a couple days old, but they're still relevant to what we're talking about today.
Not everything was produced today.
And that's why I think my email list, I mean, obviously it's a bit self-serving for me to
tell you this.
I'm not naive to that, but it's impossible for me to be objective about things that affect
me.
I like my email list because I go out to all the email lists out there so you don't have
to subscribe to 500 different email lists.
And I pick the best articles for me.
It's National Review, Zero review zero hedge Cato and
you'll get them every day so one of them I found which I thought was interesting was about again
just the simple facts on on social security and medicare now I've beaten this horse to death
but you're voting democrats voting for expanding these programs have no comprehension of the basic
math of just how bankrupt these programs are and And the point of the National Review piece, which I suggest you read,
I'll put it in the show notes today,
is, Joe, tax reform is irrelevant at this point.
It's irrelevant.
We are going bankrupt on Social Security and Medicare payments.
That's just a fact.
Folks, I know I'm going to get email from people on the Social Security.
That's fine.
I get it.
I read your emails. I respect what you have to say. But you're never going to get email from people on the Social Security. That's fine. I get it. I read your emails.
I respect what you have to say.
But you're never going to change the pure math on this.
The program is bankrupt.
That is just simple math.
Social Security, $19 trillion in unpaid obligations.
Medicare, $40 trillion.
The interest on these things, $ 23 trillion on the debt to pay
for money we don't have you didn't do it it's not your fault for the 55 000th time do not email me
on this i will delete it immediately i am not suggesting anyone 55 or older have their social
security benefits taken away let Let me repeat that.
Do not email me on this.
I'm telling you I will block your email.
I'm sorry.
I can't take it anymore.
I am not suggesting that.
It doesn't matter if I suggest.
I'm not even a legislator and I will never be.
I'm not running for office.
I'm not suggesting any legislator do that.
Yes, you paid in.
Yes, it's your money.
I'm just telling you the simple facts that if you are 55 or younger, you better not be planning your life around social security payments because there's no money. There's no money. It's not there. It's
not real. They're paying interest in the future on money they have to borrow to pay people now.
It's not your fault. You paid in. You worked hard. But whether it's your fault or not, it is real, man.
It is real. Get your arms around it. The government pissed away your money. It's not there.
You want benefits, 55 and younger? You're paying for your own benefits plus interest on money the
government's borrowing
to pay for money you put in that they already spent.
That is the hard facts.
It isn't there.
Stop the fact-free universe.
All right, I got more.
So this CBO thing is really, really really really i mean you want to talk about baking my bagels today i know i've been talking about this obamacare cbo thing there's another
great national review piece put it in today's show notes i mean it may have been in the other
day i'm not sure but either way i'm going to put it in no it couldn't have been because this one
came out last night it's another piece about how the CBO, again, why you never, ever trust these guys and women at the CBO.
Just don't trust them.
Folks, it's a magic act.
People in Congress, Mike Lee included, by the way.
Mike Lee is a great senator out of Utah.
He's in the Senate, but Congress actually refers to both of them, but House of Representatives
and the Senate. But people like Mike Lee and this writer at National Review wrote a really
good piece about this, are starting to ask simple questions about this CBO scam.
Here's a quote from the CBO, Joe, and I'll explain what this means in a second. Some of you will
already pick up on it if you've listened to the shows in the last few days. The CBO is about to engage Joe
in a major re-evaluation
of its approach
to the individual mandate.
Oh!
Oh, isn't that convenient?
I know you know
where I'm going with this.
Isn't that convenient?
Remember the church lady?
Isn't that special?
The old Dana Carvey church lady?
Isn't that sweet?
The CBO is going to engage
in a major re-evaluation
of its approach
to the individual mandate.
Now, why the hell
would they do that?
Oh, maybe because
if you've listened to the show
the last few days,
you've realized that
the hacks at the CBO
for years
have been over-inflating
the individual mandate's
incentive for individuals to buy insurance. Meaning this. have been over-inflating the individual mandate's incentive
for individuals to buy insurance.
Meaning this.
The individual mandate, in other words, the penalty, Joe,
if you don't buy Obamacare?
Yeah.
They have been over-inflating the number of people
that are responding to the mandate.
Why?
Why would the CBO do that?
I'm tired of hearing how they're honest brokers. After this
I've totally... Forget them. They're hacks.
They've
been doing it because the Republican
Obamacare repeal
plans, they want to come out and
say 500
trillion people are going to
lose insurance under Obamacare
if it's repealed.
Because they're
over-inflating the numbers.
You following, Joe? Sure am.
So they want to scare you about
an Obamacare repeal, so they want the number
to be large. No, no, no.
This individual mandate's causing all these people
to get insurance, and if you repeal Obamacare,
they'll all lose insurance.
$60 trillion will lose it.
Ah!
Ah! We're going to die.
That's the CBO.
Now, there's a major re-evaluation.
This is a quote, by the way.
It's in the piece.
Read the piece yourself.
Major re-evaluation of its approach to the mandate.
Now, why do they want to do that?
Oh, oh, oh, because now that tax reforms come about,
the CBO is quickly realizing that if there are 67 trillion people
who are going to lose insurance number is correct.
You get my point.
I'm exaggerating for effect, but you can read the actual numbers in the piece.
You get my point. I'm exaggerating for effect, but you can read the actual numbers in the piece.
If that inflated number of people, Joe, if that's an accurate number and the Republicans repeal the tax penalty for you not getting insurance plans,
if that number is correct, then that is a ton of savings for them to pass on in the form of tax cuts. Why? Because that overinflated number of people that supposedly Obamacare, if it was repealed,
was going to cost people insurance, had to have insurance in the first place because
of Obamacare.
And that insurance is largely Medicaid and subsidy-funded Obamacare insurance.
In other words, folks, if you're going to say 20 million people are going to lose insurance
if you repeal Obamacare, you have to assume by the very same,
the exact same math that 20 million people, Joe, got insurance through Obamacare. You tracking?
Exactly. Yeah. That 20 million people costs a lot of money, Medicaid money and subsidy money,
which is your money. So if the Republicans repeal the mandate and the CBO's math is correct,
then we don't have to pay for those 20 million people anymore
and they can give it back to those people in tax cuts.
But no! No, no, no.
No, no. Now that the hacks at the CBO figure this may work in the Republicans' favor
because they may be able to give people their own money back,
they're like, no, no, that's 67.275 trillion
number of people.
That was actually wrong.
We need to do a major reevaluation of our math
to give two big double-barrel middle fingers
to Republicans.
Now we want the number as small as possible.
Now we want to say, no, no, only two people
would have gotten insurance under Obamacare,
so there'll be no savings at all by repealing it. Folks, we live in a fact-free universe.
Just ask the CBO basic questions, simple questions. Are you crazy or not? That's the question.
Were you crazy the first time you gave us the 20 million number, or were you crazy when you
gave us the re-evaluated number afterwards
when you figured that number would work for Republicans?
Which is right.
I thought you said it was just math.
Because, you see, in math,
two plus two equals four today and tomorrow.
That's kind of how math works.
That's why we have Jay Zabacus on the show.
You bet.
As a guest frequently.
Yes.
To confuse people, new listeners, even further.
You'll get it eventually.
Stick with us.
Older listeners, you're laughing.
You know what I'm talking about.
What are you going to do, right?
We got all kinds of code words in this show
that have developed over time.
You really have to have listened almost from the last year
to get all this stuff.
That's all right.
I'm just asking, what CBO number's right?
The math you used yesterday
or the major re-evaluation math you're
using today because joe this is not again joe i'm not setting you up all right i'm gonna give you
this is a pop quiz for you all right what's four plus four four plus four is eight damn eight yes
he answers immediately that's how smart this guy is now Now, I'm going to undergo a major reevaluation of math right now.
All right.
Okay, I did it.
Joe, what's four plus four?
17, Dan.
17.
Yes, he's right.
Under the major reevaluation of math, producer Joe is absolutely correct.
Four plus four equals 17.
As a matter of fact, no, you're wrong.
It actually equals 97.
So you are wrong joe because
i just did my second major re-evaluation of math these are the same people like it's math
this is math no no math doesn't work that way that's not how math works
dude do we i'm telling you we live in freaking bizarro Superman land.
And Democrats suck this up.
They suck it up.
They love it.
They think this is just peachy, that we live in a universe where facts and data don't matter.
Oh, man.
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Where am I going to go next?
Let's see.
Oh, all right.
Listen.
I'll give you one more here.
Oh, oh, oh.
Well, I see it because I'm reading three or four more I had.
I'll get to some tomorrow, but this one's important.
And this is on a serious.
I know I've been sarcastic and I like to mess around,
but this is very serious, okay?
I opened the show saying that Democrats,
you're now choosing a political party over your kids,
and you may have thought that was harsh.
No, no, now I'm going to actually prove it to you
because this was one of the pieces that really piqued my interest.
It's in the Wall Street Journal today
in our op-ed column.
This is kind of infuriating,
so I'm glad I did it at the end of the show
and not at the beginning
because I'd lose my marbles.
New York just voted to re-elect Comrade de Blasio,
the openly socialist mayor
who is just decimating the city.
Why you voted for this guy?
I lived in New
York. I don't know. I'm stopped trying to figure New Yorkers out. I love you to death, but man,
I don't know what you're thinking, right? I mean, the guy's killing the city. So Joe,
the teachers union, of course, was in bed for de Blasio. Now, what is the teachers union fighting
for now? And now that de Blasio is re-elected that they're going to get passed?
This one's going to really piss you off.
The Department of Education
is now lobbying and
not lobbying, it's already done. They have
now committed to
fill vacancies in the schools,
teacher vacancies, Joe, from what they call
the ATR or the
Absent Teachers Reserve. You may say,
what the hell are you talking about? What is this? This is the pool of or the absent teachers reserve may say well what the hell are you talking about what is
this this is the pool of really sucky teachers who have been or are who have been taken out of
the classroom some for legal reasons and on average Joe these are teachers that are rated 12 times
worse than other teachers so they're not in the classroom. So the universal, universally accepted evaluation
of the ATR teachers is,
sorry, but you really suck at teaching, okay?
That's why you're in this like reserve pool
and you're not actually teaching kids.
So the Department of Education is now committed
because of the teachers unions
to rehire sucky teachers into schools and to go back to the
atr to teach your kids so they suck and they're teaching your kids and you voted for it night day
good job but it gets worse you want to kick in the cajones it gets even worse as the teachers union is simultaneously filing a lawsuit against charter schools and quote Joe, non-traditional hires.
What does that mean?
This is what it's like to be a Democrat in your fact free universe.
Charter schools, Joe, want to hire people with like PhDs and real world experience to teach in their schools that may not have a teaching certificate. So these are incredibly skilled, brilliant people, maybe retired, retired doctors.
Maybe they want to just give back their work for 30,000 a year in a charter school.
You can't do that now because of the teachers' unions. The teachers' unions not only say you
can't do it, they're filing a lawsuit to keep smart people out of the classroom while simultaneously pushing with all of their might to get the suckiest teachers in New York back in front of your kids.
Nice work, Dems.
You guys are freaking awesome.
Gosh, I wish I was a Democrat.
Oh, man alive.
Keep it up.
I got to go.
I'm going to go crazy.
All right, folks.
Thanks. I'll see you all tomorrow. You it up. I got to go. I'm going to go crazy. All right, folks. Thanks.
I'll see you all tomorrow.
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