The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 591 Socialism Sucks and People Who Believe in it Suck Too
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the damn bongino show producer joe how are you today good
to be here dano yeah man hey uh listen i got an email from a guy this this morning right before
i got on the air and he uh just quickly here he wanted to know it's a good question he's like
listen you talk about obviously be hurting a lot and let his injuries how do you train and do all the jujitsu and the lifting and
i got out of the gym this morning before i came in today was a particularly painful day it was
squat day and here's the answer folks and i'm i'm you know i know i'm sarcastic a lot but i'm being
serious and i know a lot of you may have this question and wonder yourself uh you know what's
going on is this guy really training he's always talking about being hurt and the answer is i am yeah um i i don't listen i'm not trying to get like metaphysical
with you here or getting having like a play-doh moment or something but i just believe that you're
here to suffer a little bit um you are i've you know i read a book a little while ago it's a
really great book some people ask me for a book list once in a while. We'll add this one if I ever do one. It's called How the Universe is the Way It Is, Why the Universe is the Way It Is, excuse me, by Hugh Ross. And it's a really great book about how there is no possible way this universe was created without the power of the Almighty.
almighty and one of the lines in the book or the themes of the book is the value of suffering how you're you're here to suffer uh you're here to experience you know i'm not talking about
physical pain i don't mean sit there with like a you know a compass and poke yourself with it all
day but if you read the book you'll understand and i he asked me if i the guy in the email said
do you take painkillers or something like how do you get through this stuff and the answer is you
just do like this morning i got up at 504 actually because i looked at my phone when i got up and it was in the gym by
six and i was you know i see the same crowd there every morning some of them listen to shows so how
you doing and uh you know i was today was zurcher squats 275 pounds three sets of five and then
dead lifting after that and then kettlebell swings and every second of it is excruciating my shoulder
i have a torn rotator cuff.
I got to fly out there to Los Angeles to do the stem cells.
And my knees, I have a torn lateral meniscus that I'm going to have done too.
You just suck it the hell up, folks.
You're here to suffer a little bit.
Life's not supposed to be fun.
You know, yeah, you want joy?
Look your kids in the eye.
Really, that's the only joy I need.
Sometimes I see that my daughter got her school pictures. I look at that. That's real joy. you know yeah you want joy look your kids in the eye really that's the only joy i need sometimes
i see that my daughter got her school pictures i look at that that's real joy that gets me through
all these other moments you know but last night as i was grappling again with a ripped out rotator
cuff and a torn meniscus and a and i i have a one of my erector muscles in my back is is uh not
torn but it's been pulled bad you just just suck it the hell up, man.
And that's why I have no tolerance.
That's why yesterday I went off on this punk little piece of garbage from Media Matters,
this guy Angelo Corazon.
Because folks, I am not in any way a violent guy.
Anyone who knows me understands that.
I don't do mixed martial arts and Brazilian jiu-jitsu because I enjoy violence.
I don't at all.
I do it as a means of being able to protect myself god forbid violence is brought on me but what i find amusing is how
these little pajama boys who have no element of edginess and no element of toughness and have
never suffered in their entire lives attack you on twitter and a keyboard warriors and as i say
to them all the time and i called angela yesterday, I'll say again, this guy's a coward. Now, what are you going to do? I'm not, this isn't a tough guy challenge,
not a schoolyard thing. I'm not asking you to meet me by the flagpole. I'm asking you a serious
question for all you liberal pajama boy punks out there who attack me and other principal
conservatives who are legitimate tough guys, the Tony Schaffers of the world and other people out
there on Twitter who attack, you know, Tony schafer was a a military man a decorated military man cia train
officer does commentary on fox he's t spooky on uh twitter i like tony i just bring him up because
he's a legitimate tough guy it's not a violent guy but he's a tough guy my simple question to
you is not a challenge or anything but it's it's it's a reasonable what are you gonna do
i don't mean it in donnie brasco way either like for those of you listen to show off what you can do
i mean it legitimately what are you going to do
you have nothing when you're not tapping a keyboard you are useless
you're a coward you're the very dead because there's nothing you can do all you can do is say
i know you are but but what am I?
You've got nothing.
Why do I go to the gym with damaged muscles
and in a lot of pain?
Because I know there's nothing you can do
and there's nothing you will ever do
because you're not willing to put yourself
through the pain I am.
And other people, I'm not the only one here.
I don't have any kind of proprietary interest
in pain or
suffering. There are hundreds of millions of people around the world who put themselves through
suffering every day. Boxers, military guys, CrossFitters, recreational workout people,
people who suffer every day, willing to prepare their bodies. And God forbid the event that
something happens to them, they need to use their physicality. But the pajama boy liberals don't have this, Joe. They don't have this.
They rely on a set of broken ideas. So I asked the liberals out there and just,
you know, I didn't mean to go off. I'm sorry, folks, but I just mean this. What are you going
to do? And the answer is nothing. You have nothing. You are a useless bunch of losers,
you have nothing.
You are a useless bunch of losers,
allied and married and genuflecting before a set of principles and broken ideas.
Never forget, it's the people you choose to call,
you know, flyover country folks.
You insult this down in the, you know,
people who live in the South.
Yeah, I grew up in the North.
I live down here now.
You call us all kinds of names,
what hayseeds, hillbillies, whatever,
rednecks,
stupid people. Yeah. I mean, there's a thousand names you refer to people who live in real America.
Remember, those people you insult are the ones who suffer every single day. They suffer with
their hands. They suffer through their work. They suffer in the gym. They suffer running around all
day with the stress of trying to raise kids without a million dollar salary. Those are the tough people. What do you do, Angelo from Media Matters?
You sit behind a keyboard and insult people all day. You guys are losers. And I'll leave it with
this. What are you going to do? And the answer is nothing. There's nothing you can do. Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion,
man. We totally needed that. All right, folks, I'm sorry. I just I got the question this morning,
and I really, yeah, I was a little pissed off at it still about this Angelo Corazon thing,
attacking Hannity, because the guy's a total loser, by the way. I mean, a complete zero.
All right. So yesterday, we had Jeff Sessions up on the hill, loser, by the way. I mean, a complete zero. All right.
So yesterday we had Jeff Sessions up on the Hill, folks.
What a mess.
I mean, really, what a disgrace.
These guys up on the Hill are just a total disgrace.
Let me just quickly sum this up as like I summed it up in a tweet here
because this really matters.
Did you see the hearing yesterday?
I saw parts of it.
It was like wacko.
It's just insane.
So let me just be clear on where
we stay, where the increasingly disgusting
delusional Democrats are.
So now it's Russian collusion
because
somebody named Carter Page
who was the lowest of low-level
backbenchers on the Trump campaign
asked at some point
to go take a trip to Russia
to give a speech at a college.
This is a Trump campaign low-level associate, right, Joe?
Right, right.
He is told, no, unless it's for personal reasons only.
You will not represent the campaign.
Democrats, listen up, you morons.
This is not even in question.
These are statements everybody agrees happen.
Carter Page, low-level backbencher.
Can I go to Russia?
No, unless it's personal.
You're not allowed to represent the campaign.
Okay, I'm going to give a speech at a college.
He gives a speech at a college.
Collusion!
Collusion!
Collusion!
These freaking morons.
They are so stupid.
I am so disgusted today by these idiots on the left.
Secondly, George Papadopoulos
again a low-level backbencher nobody even remembers from the campaign volunteers at a
meeting to set up a meeting with uh some russians about the foreign policy with trump right the
campaign says no and this stupid democrat Democrat, collusion, collusion.
Folks, listen, man, it's done.
It's done.
Stop negotiating.
The country is bifurcated.
We are in an ideological civil war.
Thank God it's a cold war, and please, pray to God it remains that way.
Really, I mean that.
Yeah, agreed.
Pray to God it stays that way. But, I mean that. Yeah, agreed. Pray to God it stays that way.
But make no mistake, it is over.
We are not one country anymore.
We are two countries.
We are the imbeciles on the left
and reasonable people on the right.
There's nothing, there is no intersection
of those ideas anymore.
Carter Page, can we go give a speech?
No, not representing a campaign.
Well, it's a speech at a university university can I go there on a personal level
yeah go ahead
collusion
Papadopoulos
can we set up a meeting with the Russians
no
collusion
yet now
there's still no special counsel by the way
but that
we've already got it on the record, by the way, Joe.
Yeah.
That the Democrats actually paid a company to pay the Russians for fake intelligence on Donald Trump.
But that's not collusion.
Now you wonder why Jim Jordan, congressman from Ohio, who I have a lot of respect for, by the way,
went off yesterday on Jeff Sessions in the meeting.
He's a Republican, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, I saw that.
You saw that part, Joe?
Man, yeah.
He's like, brother, amigo, what the hell?
What is it going to take to get a special counsel?
We have a special counsel.
Why is this coming?
I was not even going to talk about this today, I promise you.
But I read an article at Bloomberg, which, you know what?
I'll put it in the show notes.
Because it's so stupid that it's worth you reading
it covers in detail it's not very long but it breaks down how muller's focusing on the trump
foreign policy team joe he's got them in a corner read the piece and it's set you're gonna you're
gonna get to the end of the piece if you're a if you're a liberal don't read it please because it
requires you to be a reasonable person of which you're not but if you're a normal person right not liberals
if you're a normal person read the piece and tell me what in that piece is even remotely controversial
yet bloomberg writes the piece like this is like some big breaking news to cover it's like joe it
breaks them down by name carter page no jo. Joe Carter Page gave a speech at a college.
Oh, my God.
He gave a speech at a college.
Yeah, we got him.
And what happened?
He wanted to go give a speech.
They told him no.
And they said, Carter, is this a personal speech for a college?
Yes, it's personal.
Oh, my God.
We've got them.
Joe.
Watson.
We've got them.
We've got them.
It's a speech.
At a college.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Joe, we're going to introduce a new character for you today.
Yes. Marvin. Joe, we're going to introduce a new character for you today. Yes?
Marvin.
The overly aggressive, nerdy detective who never had a real job in his life
who is now investigating the Trump-Russia conspiracy cases.
You just used him.
You just don't know it.
We got him.
We got him.
Carter.
He gave a speech.
Marvin. We got him. Carter gave a speech. Marvin, we got him.
Gave a speech in Russia with the Russians.
Oh, my God.
Folks, you may say Bongino sounds delirious.
I am because I seriously can't take it.
We are in the we the country
is being flushed down the toilet bowl by a group of people who i by calling them imbeciles it's an
insult to actual imbeciles like i feel bad for real imbeciles because they got to be lopped in
with democrats let's go papadopoulos We got him We got him Joe
He was in the meeting
He was in the meeting
In the meeting
Yeah
Yeah
He's in the meeting
We can be with the Russians
With the Russians
And the Trump team Joe said no
We got him
Oh yeah We're right there Collusion and the Trump team Joe said no we got him oh yeah
we're right there collusion
oh
I'm crying right now I'm seriously
we need a ditto cam in here I'm crying
because I can't believe
that there is a large swath
of America a country I love
I mean I deeply love that there
is a large swath of America
that are so dumb that they actually believe this.
Then they're like, we got him, Don Trump Jr.
We got him.
He DM'd.
Direct message for you liberals out there.
Don't use Twitter.
That means like it's a private message on Twitter.
WikiLeaks DM'd him.
Oh, my God.
And he answered them and he disclosed it on by the way don jr took
actually sent out on twitter his dms with wiki leaks collusion that meanwhile even like hardcore
democrats are like ah well it doesn't look good but there's really no collusion your whole story's collusion. Not that he DM'd WikiLeaks.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't take it anymore.
The sniffles are not my allergies.
I'm legitimately crying right now
because this stuff is like, it's so,
if I don't laugh, I'm going to break down.
I'm going to put the Bloomberg piece
against my
better judgment
in the show notes up on Gino.com
and of course if you sign up for the email list I'll email
it to you. But I want you to read it
and seriously even to the dopey Dems
out there. I want you to read it
with an open mind.
Read it with an open mind.
Even as Republicans or whatever.
Read it with an open mind and I want you to get back to me and email me where you find anything other than maybe stupid decisions.
I read the whole thing as a former criminal investigator. And tell me where you find collusion with the Russians to overturn an election. Cite me the line in there.
you find collusion with the Russians to overturn an election.
Cite me the line in there.
Freaking frustrating, man.
No, it is.
It is.
I'm just, I mean, I hear, you see this paper?
You hear that?
Yeah.
There's a piece right here.
You can't hear, but it's a little, that's actually my tears. I'm not even kidding.
Cause I was laughing so hard on the paper.
It's like, you know, the yellow pad.
Yeah.
It's actually falling apart a little bit now because I've been tearing on it the whole time.
It goes on.
I got more.
You know, socialism.
Socialism's back. Apparently, there's a poll out there. This is not pause for effect. I'm just really, I want to make sure that I get my druthers before I go on with the show because I'm unusually pissed off today. And I don't want to scream at you for the next 45 minutes. I love my audience too much.
So there's a poll out there saying that young millennials and young kids are increasingly finding socialism attractive. Oh, great, great. More morons. Yeah, I'm sorry. No,
you're an idiot. No, you're just stupid. You have an iPhone? You have a computer?
Are you a liberal socialist who found this show by mistake and are listening to
it right now on your android or iphone with your beats headphones and you're what are the kids wear
now american apparel i don't even know what's the fancy clothes i don't even care i wear lucky stuff
it's the only thing that fits my i have an unusually big butt my wife will laugh by me saying
that because i squat all the time so i have to wear lucky clothes my wife's gonna be like did
you just say that on the air i do it's enormous from squatting all the, so I have to wear lucky clothes. My wife's going to be like, did you just say that on the air?
I do.
It's enormous from squatting all the time.
So I have to wear lucky clothes.
I don't even know what's...
But whatever you're wearing,
lucky or American apparel,
whatever it may be,
I don't even know what's cool anymore, right?
Because I frankly don't care.
You realize socialist entities,
socialist governments
where they control the means of production,
none of that exists in socialist governments. You understand that, right? Because they control the means of production. None of that exists in socialist governments.
You understand that, right?
Because they control the means of production and increasingly destroy the means of production
and the people.
But don't let that get in the way of your stupid arguments, you numb nuts out there.
Now, why am I bringing this up?
It's a piece in the Wall Street Journal today about Venezuela.
Venezuela turned socialist now for those of you who are wondering what happens when venezuela turned legitimately
socialist because i know a lot of the uh you know what do they call them the young and
impressionables in in uh when it comes to politics and the young invincibles when it
comes to health care um i'm going to call the young socialist uh the young imbeciles so the young imbeciles out there who believe in socialism they'll say well socialism
we're really talking about there's denmark yeah okay you're just an idiot okay denmark is a big
government natty state the government does not own the means of production in denmark you're just
really dumb uh but let's leave that aside for a moment let's talk to people actually know what
they're talking about there's a country that did turn socialist, Joe, Venezuela.
Yes.
Now, there's a fascinating piece in the Wall Street Journal today
about Venezuela and what's happening in Venezuela.
Venezuela, this is big news, folks.
This is not small news that you're not going to hear reported
in the mainstream media because they'll cover for Venezuela
because they are all socialists, just defaulted on three bonds
after giving a 30-day grace period.
Well, what the hell does that mean, and why should you care?
Folks, they're bankrupt.
They were given a 30-day grace period to pay $280 million in bonds, and they defaulted.
They don't have the money.
They ran out of money.
As Margaret Thatcher once said about socialism, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.
Venezuela's run out.
So now, for all you socialist young imbeciles out there,
we have the young invincibles, you know, the young impressionables.
Now we have the young imbeciles.
The kids out there who believe in socialism,
do you understand that every single place on earth this has been tried,
death and destruction and bankruptcy has followed,
and you have an actual example, an actual time,
going actually on right now
where people are eating pigeons dying and the government just officially went bankrupt
does any of that matter to you when you're polled about socialism does any of that matter or do you
just conveniently silo facts and data in your head in a blind allegiance to being young and imbecilic
does any of this matter to you there's right now a socialist country an actual socialist
not a fake one like you talk about in denmark where the government does not own the means of
production denmark's own what is is it, Rasmussen?
Its own leaders have said,
we are not a socialist country,
you idiots.
In a response to Bernie Sanders
claiming Denmark's a socialist country.
He should ask the Danes first.
Folks,
there's a socialist country
right now
you have an example of
that is bankrupt.
Now, Joe, I know the liberal response because I can predict these people because they're so dumb and predictable.
It is easy to read their minds like it's almost like Minority Report with Tom Cruise.
You can tell their crimes before they're going to happen.
They'll say, well, it wasn't socialism.
It was oil revenue. The oil revenue. well, it wasn't socialism. It was oil revenue.
The oil revenue.
Yeah, yeah, oil revenue, right?
It was oil revenue, Joe.
Because, Joe, did you know oil prices only went down in Venezuela?
Did you know that?
They didn't go down anywhere else, Joe.
Wow.
It's amazing how that happened, that global oil prices collapsed. Global oil prices collapsed.
But it only affected Venezuela, the socialist country.
That's incredible, Joe, isn't it?
No, it's bad timing.
Bad, just bad timing.
You nailed it, Joe.
Joe nails it again.
Joe, you should get your PhD in economics, in global economic.
Joe nailed it.
It was just bad timing.
That's it.
So the socialist country goes bankrupt,
yet the United States, which relies heavily on oil,
a lot of European countries,
even a lot of Middle Eastern tyrannies that rely on oil,
have not yet gone bankrupt. But keep in mind, I'm not suggesting tyranny.
I'm just telling you socialism sucks so bad
that even when you're a tyrannical monarchy,
you have a better chance of surviving than being a socialist country when you rely on oil.
So global oil prices climb, but only Venezuela goes bankrupt.
That's great.
That's great, fellas.
That's a great.
You libs are genius.
I mean, really, this is the you just have the remember Minority Report with Tom Cruise.
He's got the gloves on.
He's moving stuff.
I'm just moving stuff around right now in the future.
And I'm just, Venezuela, socialism sucks.
They're going bankrupt.
I'm moving stuff around.
Here's the liberal response.
It's the oil revenue.
Really?
What happened with the United States?
Why didn't we go bankrupt?
It's the oil revenue.
Joe, please play the dude.
Lock him up.
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's just like your opinion, man.
That's next.
That's next.
That is after oil revenue.
That's the next response.
Because you go, oil revenue?
How come the Saudis aren't bankrupt?
They're literally a monarchy.
That doesn't even respect human rights in many respects,
especially for women.
How come we're not bankrupt?
It's a large portion of our economy.
Yeah, well, that's just your opinion, man.
I mean, I could use that drop, as Joe calls it in radio lingo.
I could use that endlessly because this is what I'm talking about with liberals.
They're so dumb
that nothing they say ever makes sense
and yet these young imbeciles fall right in line.
It's the revenue.
It's the revenue.
That did it.
Oh my gosh. Sniffling like can't you are pissed off today i gotta i gotta tell you
and i'm not the funny thing i'm in a good mood i mean i'm really i had a good workout
you know this morning i just mauled it in the gym i'm you know i especially even even with the
being banged up i got like 221 swings in
with the 82 pound kettle in 10 minutes.
Dude.
I 275 in the Zurcher.
I did six, five, and five.
And then I did a set of 20 with 225.
And then deadlift,
and I put 245 on.
I got a set of 15 and a set of seven.
And I did it super quick.
Then I went into sawn and stretch,
and I feel great.
No wonder you're falling apart, dude.
Yeah, I know. And I grappled last night. I i went for a good hour an hour and a half last night um you know when i it's funny but there was i was rolling i was grappling with this white belt
who's brand new a nice guy came in it's only his third class and it just goes to show you folks
three classes meaning the guys trained an entire three hours in grappling.
That's it.
I'm not going to say his name or anything, but he's a super nice guy.
He had no experience in grappling.
He wasn't a wrestler, judo guy, sambo, nothing.
He has never fought a day in his life.
Not boxing, Zippo.
He's not a gymnast.
And even in three hours, I was kind of helping him out a little bit last night.
They put the higher ranking belts with the white belts in these classes to, you know, you don't want the white belts teaching.
They don't know anything.
But even when we were doing the mount where the guy's on top of you, like literally mounting you and he was on top.
And in the beginning, I'm on the bottom and I'm like, dude, what do you weigh?
And he's like, I weigh 200 pounds.
I'm like, you feel like you weigh 10 pounds.
Like you have to learn to get heavy, man.
Hip to hip, chest to chest. Get your weight on me, man. You're 200 pounds. You're in a you feel like you weigh 10 pounds. Like, you have to learn to get heavy, man. Hip to hip, chest to chest.
Get your weight on me, man.
You're 200 pounds.
You're in a fight.
This guy's going to get up.
He's going to be super strong when the adrenaline kicks in.
You better feel like 200 pounds.
Joe, for the first half hour, this guy could not put his weight on me at all.
I don't know if he was afraid or if he just didn't get how to do it.
By the end of the class, just this is his third hour only, the guy felt like he weighed 500 pounds i'm like dude nice work brother like you just even in a locker room he's like thanks
for the help like you kicked ass in there i'm like that your third class you already learned
how to get on top of a dude and use your body weight to make him eat the pavement make him eat
the pavement i weigh 225 i'm on top of you're every night. You're going to be like, get off me.
That's what it's going to feel like.
I promise you.
And this guy at the end of the class was really, really good.
I don't know why the hell I brought that up, but still.
Me either, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Usually there's some kind of loose, secondary relationship to the show.
Not today.
Today's show is a completely unhinged cornucopia of word salads everywhere.
But I need these once in a while.
It's very therapeutic.
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so Joe just usually get the sniffles out. You might as well just leave him in today because
the show will come out at like two o'clock in the afternoon. You know what? I'm going to leave him
in. Yeah, he usually does take them all out, i i've been laughing so hard at myself which is a horrible thing to say
that i just can't stop and i want to like blow my nose in the middle of the show it'd be really
disgusting one other thing i wanted to bring up about socialism and this venice why venezuela's
bankrupt and why that should matter to the the young imbeciles and i'm sorry i'm really i just
i can't take it i love my I just, I can't take it.
I love my young audience.
I just can't take it that young people
don't do any homework,
yet they so proudly profess an allegiance to socialism.
What is socialism?
I don't know, but I think it's great.
Okay, that sounds great.
There are two problems here.
By the way, in 2001,
which is in this Wall Street Journal piece,
which is interesting, Venezuela,
in case you're other, if you're not saying, oh, I haven't heard from you, if your second answer isn't the way, in 2001, which is in this Wall Street Journal piece, which is interesting, Venezuela, in case you're not saying, oh, I haven't heard from you, if your second answer isn't the dude, your third answer is going to be, well, in 2001, well, no, you may say to yourself, well, Venezuela was a poor country to begin with.
You'd be wrong because in 2001, they were the richest country in South America.
So, wrong again.
But again, don't let facts and data get in the way of your unending allegiance to imbecility. Okay, here's the problem here. There's two problems. Number one, in a socialist country,
the incentives are all wrong. And number two, there's a knowledge problem. The incentive in
a socialist country when the government owns the means of production, in other words, when the
Venezuelan government takes over the oil industry, is not to make money. The incentive is to hold on
to power. So what do they do with the money the oil company makes in Venezuela
when the government owns it, Joe?
They buy votes and they buy allegiance.
Remember, when you have a privately owned company
in a free market,
the privately owned company,
their allegiance is to their customers,
which is their revenue base.
Their goal is to make money
for shareholders in the company
to stay in business.
Their goal is not political power.
Now, political power may be nice through lobbying,
but political power is not their goal.
If they can make money without political power
and wasting money on lobbying, they will do it.
If lobbying can help them make more money,
they'll do that too.
But their goal isn't political power,
it's lobbying to make money.
When a government owns the means of production,
the incentive is all wrong.
The incentive is a continuance of power.
How do you stay in power?
By support from people or suppressing the people.
So you either pay for a military and buy them off like they do in Iran,
or you pay the people off through goodies, which is what happened in Venezuela,
which is why they're now out of money.
Secondly, there's a knowledge problem.
Folks, the government doesn't have the knowledge to price a baseball card,
no less to run the oil industry. There are people in the oil industry who fail at predicting the knowledge to price a baseball card, no less to
run the oil industry. There are people in the oil industry who fail at predicting the oil industry.
Am I right, Joe? There are people who've been engaged in fracking and hydrofracking who didn't
anticipate the dump in oil prices out in North Dakota and other places who had to shut their
own companies down. Joe, these people are in the oil industry and they couldn't hack it in the oil
industry. You think a government bureaucrat now,
a government bureaucrat with no expertise in oil,
petrochemicals, petroresources at all
is going to come into an oil
and run an entire national oil company?
You are an idiot if you believe that.
Socialism will never work because socialism can't work.
And if you don't want to pay any attention whatsoever
to what happened in Venezuela today,
then shame on you.
You live in an intellectual vacuum and a bubble and you should be embarrassed and horrified. All right. What else we got here?
Pay more than you get back. Oh, you know what? I want to get at this Kansas thing a second,
but I heard this this morning. There was a lawmaker on Fox, and this topic, the state and
local tax deduction keeps coming up again,
Joe. In short, the tax bills being voted on. Yeah, you can right now deduct your state and
local taxes from your federal taxes. So if you live in a high tax state like New York or
Taxachusetts or one of those other places where there's a high state income tax and other things,
you can deduct that from your federal tax bill.
And I saw a lawmaker this morning trying to defend that.
I don't know why they're defending this.
I don't understand why the rest of the country
pays the price for the fact that New York
wants to tax the snot out of its people.
But at one point, the lawmaker said,
which was interesting,
he said, well, we pay more to the federal government
than we get back.
And I thought, this is going to be like the,
and keep in mind, this guy was a republican who said this but this is turning into
a liberal talking point too and i kind of find this funny joe um i think this is a little bit
hypocritical is it not so the gist of it is well we should get this state and local tax deduction
because we pay billions more to the federal government we get back but if you're a liberal
and you're you're embracing this talking point joe the entire
premise of liberalism am i wrong is that taxes are a good thing and are a public good oh yeah
that's what i thought i mean isn't that the whole liberal ethos like taxes taxes are great taxes are
good roads and roads and bridges roads and bridges uh public schools yeah social programs social
security so i don't understand like how so what's your what's
your beef if you're paying more for a public good you're alleging is a public good in taxes
why are you using it as a talking point saying it's a bad thing you see where i'm going with
this joe sure man yeah your premise your entire worldview as a liberal is colored by the fact
that you think paying higher taxes is a good thing.
That giving money to the government is a public good,
that the government can do better with that money than you can do with,
you can do with it for yourself.
That's the whole premise of liberalism.
Give the government your money because you're too stupid to spend it yourself.
What else is the, I mean, I don't understand, like,
where else, where have liberals argued otherwise?
else is the i mean i don't understand like where else where have liberals argued otherwise so now to preserve a tax deduction to pay less taxes the state and local that that's what that
is you want to pay less taxes now although you just said paying more taxes is a good thing
so now you want to pay less taxes and to make an argument for paying less taxes your argument is
that paying more taxes to the government is a bad thing?
Folks, you wonder why again this morning
I'm like extra salty on steroids?
Because liberalism requires you
to be so stupid
that you have to argue against your own interests
in the very same sentence.
The whole premise of liberalism
is that taxes and high taxes
are an economic good.
But now you want the state and local deduction to stay in high tax states to preserve you paying
less taxes. And the argument you're using is that because we pay more taxes than we get back,
I thought paying taxes was a good thing. No, it's not a good thing. We want to pay less.
We want a deduction. And by the way, we pay a lot in taxes and that's a good thing. No, it's not a good thing. We want to pay less. We want a deduction.
And by the way, we pay a lot in taxes
and that's a bad thing.
Guys, ladies,
are we on the same planet?
What is it?
Is paying higher taxes
a good thing or a bad thing?
So if paying higher taxes
is a good thing,
why are you arguing
for the state and local
tax deduction to stay? Why not just pay more? It is a good thing, why are you arguing for the state and local tax deduction to stay?
Why not just pay more?
It's a good thing.
And then you acknowledge in the next sentence,
by the way, we pay more in taxes and we get back,
and that's a bad thing.
Holy freaking crikeys.
Joe.
Oh, my God.
Oh, gosh.
I can't take it. I swear'm gonna lose my mind i know there's this mental breakdown things i'm like gonna lose my mind i can't these people are so stupid and it's like we have so many
dumb republicans who just don't call them out on basic stuff like that? Like, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
So the Republican tax reform gets rid of the state and local deduction,
which enables you to pay lower taxes.
As you're simultaneously arguing
that paying higher taxes is a good thing.
So do you want lower taxes or higher taxes?
No, we want higher taxes,
but just not for us.
Oh, oh, okay. Now it makes sense just not for us. Oh, oh, okay.
Now it makes sense.
There you go.
Oh, dad, thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you for clearing that up.
All right, we're good.
Yeah.
You wonder why I have produced,
the original intention of the show,
by the way,
was not to have producer Joe
so involved.
I'll be honest with you.
He was going to be my producer.
But I have grown
so attached to Joe and the show
as a sounding board for my psychopathology
which is growing by the day i'm seriously losing my mind that the show could not occur without
joe dies the show's over it is it's not going to be a monologue it's just not i need joe to clap
once in a while to let me know that my mind is still grounded in planet earth because i feel
like every day i wake up, it's like,
what liberal stupidity is Dan Bongino going to have to deal with today?
Every day.
Every freaking day of my life,
I'm dealing with dumb liberals.
Collusion!
Taxes!
High taxes, good.
Oh, good?
Okay, so how about we get rid of the state
and local deduction,
you guys can pay more.
No, no, we don't want to pay more.
No, no, we want you to pay more.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. Thanks, no, we don't want to pay more. No, no, we want you to pay more. Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Thanks, Joe, for clearing that up.
It does make sense.
There you go.
A little round of applause for Joe.
Nice work.
I got more of this, but I'm not done.
Not even close to done.
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On this tax thing, too.
So, you know, even in my debunk this section on my website, I have an article about myths about Kansas.
Now, again, this is one of those topics.
I get it.
You know, you're not going to hear this on other talk radio shows.
You know, you may hear it on some of the more wonky ones.
But just like I brought up the Venezuela thing today,
the Kansas argument's coming up again.
What are you talking about?
What does this mean and why does it matter to me?
Well, again, when liberals are done with their first dopey talking point,
which is usually totally irrelevant to the topic in an attempt at distraction,
they'll move on to the dude.
And then when the dude doesn't work, they'll typically drop another line, right? So their line about the tax cuts is
Kansas, Kansas, as I've said on this show, 25,622 times. They will always say, well,
look what happened in Kansas. They cut taxes and had major league budget shortfalls. Again,
short of any of the facts and data about what actually happened in Kansas, but don't let that
get in the way of more of your stupidity. So it's another piece in the journal today about Kansas because,
you know, listen, the journal, I like them. They're off on certain topics, I think. I think
they can be particularly vitriolic towards some talk radio people I respect, but some of their
articles are really good. This one today about Kansas is great. Here are some of the takeaways
because this is a subscription only piece. But the liberals keep saying, look, we can't cut taxes because taxes were cut in Kansas
and there was a budget shortfall.
Clear on that, Joe?
That's their premise.
Yeah.
Now, keep in mind, Joe, conveniently, like liberals always do, because they're constant
liars.
They're addicted to lying.
They even lie about lying.
They ignore Florida.
They ignore Texas and other states that are booming precisely because they have low taxes.
North Dakota and other places like that, where the economies are doing quite well.
So they pick out and they cherry pick Kansas all the time because that's all they have.
Now, if you listen to yesterday's show, you'll know that people are fleeing high-tax states for low-tax states.
And I'll give you a hint.
That's not because they're crappy places to live.
Not because they're crappy places to live.
$39 billion poured into Florida in the last few years, over the last few years, 2012 to 2015, while billions of dollars left New York, Connecticut, New Jersey.
Now, I covered that in yesterday's show.
So money's fleeing.
But liberals, again, people vote with their feet.
Ignore that because they're just by nature liars.
So here's what really happened in Kansas, folks.
You can debate your liberal friends.
Right before the tax cuts in 2011, federal stimulus money, $527 million of federal stimulus money flowed into Kansas.
That's a bad idea.
I'm not defending the idea. But the liberals and some phony Republicans in the state of Kansas chose to consider that money in their long-term projections, even though the money was not coming back in 2012.
So, Joe, that would be like you giving me a gift.
Say I make $100,000 a year.
You give me $10,000 and doing my spending, a one-time gift, okay?
And next year, doing my spending projections for my household based on $110,000,
even though it was a one-time gift.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, not real bright.
Not real bright, but you think I'm going to have a spend,
I think I'm going to go into debt
if I spend 110 and only make 100?
Yeah.
Okay, there you go.
Joe, this guy's like a mathematician today.
You're amazing.
Of course.
Thank you.
So they took into account federal stimulus money,
knowing to inflate the budget numbers,
knowing that the money wasn't coming back.
And now they're like, the tax cuts are to blame for the shortfalls.
Oh, really?
Really?
That's pretty incredible, considering the mathematical geniuses you idiots proclaim to be.
Secondly, they didn't get rid of a lot of loopholes, which aren't present in the federal tax reform now. Now, in a nutshell, they made it
easier to declare at a lower tax rate in Kansas pass-through money rather than corporate money.
So people just basically reincorporated or reorganized their businesses as pass-throughs.
Now, it didn't cost Kansas a fortune. The estimates are overestimated of what they lost due to this
reclassification of income as pass-through
because you could pay a lower rate as a pass-through in Kansas.
But that's not what's in this reform.
There's a corporate tax cut, Joe, and a pass-through tax cut.
So comparing the two is just, I mean, you're just making it up.
Be like, oh, Kansas had a shortfall because of a reclassification of income as pass-throughs.
Oh, what happens in the Trump?
Well, it doesn't happen in the Trump thing.
So what are you comparing?
Oh, nothing. I'm just trying to be an idiot because I'm a liberal. Oh, what happens in a Trump? Well, it doesn't happen in a Trump thing. So what are you comparing? Oh, nothing.
I'm just trying to be an idiot because I'm a liberal.
Oh, okay.
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Third, spending.
Again, because someone sent me a piece about the value-added tax, a good piece in Bloomberg.
It's written by a liberal, though.
And in the piece, it's funny.
The guy, again, talks about Reagan tax cuts and the deficits.
Folks, the Reagan deficits were driven by spending.
Reagan cut taxes and revenue went up.
You don't believe me?
I'm sorry.
You really just don't have any idea
what you're talking about.
Just Google it.
Go to the interweb.
Spending, Joe, in Kansas
went from 5.3 billion to 6.6 billion.
Do you think the increase of $1.3 billion,
a double-digit increase in spending,
do you think that may have had something, Joe,
to do with the deficits in Kansas?
I would think it would have some impact.
Holy Moses, this guy is on fire today.
Armacost and Fuego, PhD mathematics, economics,
MBA, finance expertise, black shoals.
This guy's incredible.
You are what you are.
Really?
You're an algorithmic genius.
My head's hurting today.
It is.
I can tell from me yelling the whole time to 5.3 billion to 6.6 billion.
Now, did Kansas have a revenue shortfall?
Yes, they did.
I just told you because of the with the idiosyncrasy of creating a pass-through exemption
that is not in the Trump tax plan
or the GOP tax plan.
But again, keep comparing the two
even though they're not comparable at all
because that's what you do, you liars.
And spending had a lot to do with it.
And by the way,
Kansas has recovered most of the money
that so-called was lost
through the tax cuts,
which, by the way,
were not designed that great.
And also, Kansas has done pretty well since then in the job market,
but don't let that get in the way.
To prove to you again that liberals will continue to insist, by the way,
it's the last story of the day, folks.
Bear with me on this, because this is important.
Continuing to lie to you about the effects of tax cuts on deficits,
I'll put an article in the show notes today from CNS News.
I think this guy Terrence Jeffrey, right?
He writes really good stuff.
He covers the budget in detail
and the spending shortfalls.
Joe, showing you again that tax rates
and taxes have nothing to do with our deficits.
This is a spending issue, not a tax issue.
The federal government, Joe, in October
raised an astonishing $235 billion
in all-time record. All-time record. The most money we've ever raised in October, folks.
$63 billion short still, deficit in October. Folks, it's a spending thing.
We just raised a record amount of money in October.
Record amount of money, and they're still $63 billion short.
The most money in October in human history, and we're still $63 billion short.
You still telling me it's a tax problem?
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument, folks.
It's really just pathetic.
Hey, can I just mention one thing quick?
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal.
I'll make this quick.
I'm done with the financial stuff for now.
A guy named Michael Brough wrote it, B-R-O-U-G-H.
And the gist of the article was that military folks don't...
I don't want to mischaracterize what he said.
He was a military man himself. And he's like,
listen, we don't need any special thanks. There's a lot of
people out there who sacrificed too.
The article's gotten a lot of negative feedback.
The letters to the Wall Street Journal today were
pretty horrifying.
Attacking them.
I have to agree with
a lot of the letters folks i just want to
say to our military folks out there you know thank you and i don't agree with mr bra or bro
whatever his name is bro it is a special sacrifice i don't wake up in the morning as a content
producer in conservative media with the thought that i'm going to be shot in the face by an enemy
combatant in front of me.
Or that I'm going to get on a helicopter and a Chinook and drive out into the mountains outside a Bagram air base and be shot out of the sky by a man pad or RPG. I don't have that problem. You do.
It is a special sacrifice. And I applaud this man for his service, but I disagree with his premise
entirely.
Our military people do deserve a special sacrifice.
These men and women get paid crap.
They live in pretty crappy living conditions, and they give up years of their lives, in some cases their entire lives, to go do a really tough job under high stress on the
front lines of freedom every day.
So a really special thank you to do it at.
And I really, really disagree with this guy.
You deserve an extra special thank you,
not the thank you everybody else gets.
Thanks to our teachers and our doctors.
We love you.
But it's not the same.
Special thanks to our military folks.
I'll see you all tomorrow.
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