The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 624 Be Very Careful: The Dems Are About to Change Their Attack Strategy
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The Dan Bongino Show. Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino.
Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Producer Joe, how are you today?
Hey man, I'm doing alright. Doing good.
That was the mildest entry you've ever had into the show.
Yes it was.
I'm doing alright. It's almost like you spent New Year's Eve with CNN smoking a bowl.
Did you see them on TV? They were like on CNN. They were like in a pot van or something like that. I'm not even kidding. I was like,
what the heck? What are we promoting drug use now? Give me a break, man.
Well-rested.
Yeah, it was nuts. CNN has lost their minds on New Year's. It's incredible. I mean,
it's bad enough they're having a fake news crisis, right? Let's get skied out on the air.
Right. Let's let's get let's get skied out on the air. I mean, it's crazy, man. Oh, man, I'm itching to do today's show. Folks, you know, I was debating before the show, if I can be candid with you, because I'm really seriously furious about what's going on right now with this new shift. I titled today's show,
be careful, the left is changing its attack strategy, the Democrats on Trump.
I don't know where to go without engaging in an unhinged rant that does neither you nor I any justice. These are sick people.
I mean, these are seriously sick, deranged people.
Let me preface it by saying, as I always do,
because I mean it, I'm not talking about all Democrat voters in the country.
I'm not talking about all Democrats
elected everywhere in the country.
I'm talking about the far left activists
and 99% of the people up on Capitol Hill
wearing the Democrat label on their chests,
not so proudly.
These are sick, deranged people.
Now, what's the genesis of this?
Well, yesterday I read a piece by Andy McCarthy,
who I don't know how else to emphasize to you
how important reading his stuff at National Review is.
Folks, I get nothing from it.
I know Andy.
We're not like best friends.
We're friends.
We run in some of the same circles only because he's a conservative and so am I.
We don't like have dinner together.
I get no bonus from National Review where he writes for promoting his stuff.
Bonus from National Review where he writes for promoting his stuff.
I'm just telling you if you want to be informed about what's going on right now with this Russian collusion thing, but importantly, why it matters.
Folks, the details of it are irrelevant if you're not a lawyer.
The details of it are relevant because it is instructive on how the far left,
how sick and deranged these people are.
And for you to be able to effectively debate the corruption,
I'm going to use that word and I mean it,
the corruption they're engaging in right now
to immorally and unethically take down a duly elected president.
Now, I'm going to get into how they're changing the narrative in a second.
So the premise of the show today is,
so far we moved from the guy was ineligible to be elected president,
a battle on, you know, remember when they were going after the electoral college,
the electors, and saying, don't vote for this guy.
They moved on from that relatively quickly.
Then they moved on to this Russian collusion thing where they've been for a
year.
Now they're starting to realize slowly,
but surely that this is falling apart.
I covered some of this yesterday.
They're starting to realize this is entirely falling apart and they're
moving on to a new narrative.
Let me just get out of the way.
What that narrative is.
You have that cut ready, Joe?
Yeah, man.
This is from MSNBC.
This is a clip just to set it up.
What is it?
Alexis Witt asks one of their contributors.
He's a professor from a university.
He's a contributor to MSNBC.
Asks him about Trump and if he is fact, has some kind of like racist tendencies.
Here's his answer. This president is a fairly devout racist.
But, you know, I want to take it one step back and just hope folks understand, you know, racism is real and racism has real consequences.
Is he racist or just insensitive toward racial issues?
And, you know, people get all hot and bothered when you say the word racist.
But what would you say? He's racist. He's sensitive toward racial issues. And, you know, people get all hot and bothered when you say the word racist. But what would you say?
He's racist.
He's racist.
And his comments suggest that.
Also, his policies.
Look at the Muslim ban.
Look at how he talks about immigration with respect to Mexicans.
Look at all the various dog whistles and direct ways in which he's talked about folks of color over the course of his lifetime.
Look at what he did in terms of the Central Park Five.
There are too many examples that suggest that Donald Trump is a racist.
Wow. Folks, trust me on this one, please.
Don't think for a second that was a mistake.
Don't think for a second that this professor went on there
and was just some rando, some random person out there
who appeared on the air and just decided to throw out there that Trump is a racist.
He's fed the question by MSNBC, who are fed to their bookers, talking points by the Democrat Party.
Now, amazing what the guy says, because even the host at MSNBC, the craziest network on the air, Joe, tries to give him an out on that.
Did you hear it?
Where she goes, well, you know,
people get a little perturbed or whatever she said,
bothered, hot and bothered, she said.
When you call someone a racist,
and he's like, no, no, no, he's a racist.
Oh, man, he's a racist.
Are you like a crazy person?
Play that again.
Are you like a crazy person?
One more time.
Are you like a crazy person? One more time. Are you like a crazy person?
Yes, he is a crazy person.
He gives the dumbest examples you have ever heard in your life of evidence of racism.
First, he cites the Muslim ban.
Joe, is being Muslim a race?
No, Dan.
Is being Christian a race?
That would be no, Dan. What about being Jewish? That would probably be a no, Dan. Is being Christian a race? That would be no, Dan. What about being Jewish?
That would probably be a no, Dan. Hindu? Is that a race? That is a religion, Dan.
That is. OK. OK, folks. So being Muslim, the Muslim ban, that is not a ban on Muslims. So
one, he cites something that's not, in fact fact true. He cites a myth that there's in fact
a Muslim ban. Folks, if you are Muslim, you are not banned from coming in the United States.
Hence the term Muslim ban is meaningless. Now there is a ban on seven countries that have,
that are basically backlogged with terror right now. Campaigns are trying to fight or promote.
It has nothing to do with being Muslim. Secondly, he cites a religion as evidence of racism,
which means he's an imbecile.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
This is just a dumb human being.
Then he cites his approach to immigration from Mexico
and the speech about how,
clear as day if you listen to the speech,
he says they're sending their worst.
He doesn't say Mexicans are rapists,
but you know what?
We shouldn't even relitigate that because that's just stupid liberal drivel.
And then he cites something about the Central Park Five,
which basically it was just Trump going after guys who had done something
really horrific in Central Park.
But of course, because Trump, they need an excuse.
He's just digging right now for stuff.
Yeah.
The guy's just making it up.
Now, that's example number one.
Example number two, I don't have a sound because it's really short.
I don't want to waste your time.
Robbie Mook, who is a Clinton consigliere, who is Hillary Clinton's one of her campaign managers,
one of the management staff on her campaign.
Robby Mook is tied to Hillary Clinton at the hip.
Hillary Clinton is still an ambassador of the Democrat Party focus group tested talking points.
Now, despite the fact that she lost the presidency in humiliating fashion.
Robby Mook was on CNN just recently.
On CNN, he was asked about the Russian collusion narrative,
and he said short and sweet.
He basically said, folks, it's time to move on.
That the Democrat Party needs to start running on something
other than Russian collusion.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is not a small, cast aside, incidental comment.
That is a mammoth sea change.
Don't think for a second this comment wasn't personally vetted and personally approved
by Hillary Clinton.
What does that tell you?
Now, you may say, oh, well, that's a good thing.
Robbie Mook is doing the
right thing former clinton campaign consigliere uh he's moving on uh the clintons want to do the
right thing and acknowledge they've been lying about the collusion thing the whole time no no
no no no that's not what's going on here. This is not a come to Jesus moment.
This is a narrative shifting, narrative defining moment where they were going to move on to standard pre-collusion attacks,
which for 50 years, Joe, have been, you're a racist.
You're a Republican, you're a racist.
Reagan, he was a racist.
Bush, he was definitely a racist.
Newt Gingrich, racist.
Paul Ryan, racist.
Any significant Republican in the last 50 years
has been tarred with the racist label.
They're going right back to standard identity politics.
I want to tie in,
if you're listening to these shows in sequence,
I want to tie in the last two shows I did with today's show.
I think that's what we do differently here.
We keep persistent narratives throughout the show like we're telling a story because people think in stories.
People think in narratives.
I covered the left's infatuation with identity politics last week.
Addressed it again in yesterday's show.
How the left doesn't have anything else.
They only get you to vote against Republicans.
And to do that, they have to put you in a box
that you have to stay in.
You can't think of yourself as an American.
That's not a box, folks.
Their box is black American, Hispanic American,
union worker, woman versus man,
Muslim versus Jew.
They need you in that box
to show you how Republicans hate you
if you are one of those people.
That attack has worked for them in the past.
It's disingenuous.
It's immoral.
It's unethical.
It's sinful.
But Democrats don't care about that.
They don't mind one bit.
They live in a moral vacuum.
They're not anchored to big R rights by God or values by God like good conservatives are who will absolutely
refuse to do that, to call people a racist without hard evidence. Liberals aren't anchored to that.
They don't have an objective set of values. Their values are subjective. In other words,
they're subjected to change on a whim by the subjective needs of a government.
If you have an objective set of values,
that means they're immovable.
You get what I'm saying?
Rights that come from God.
Sure.
We will not do this set of things
because it's immoral.
When you're a liberal,
there's no such thing as immoral.
There's only an ends that justifies the means.
Killing, death, racism charges, lying, cheating, stealing.
To empower the state, that is your set of values.
They change on a whim.
The liberals needed this.
I covered that and they need it now.
I covered that in the Identity Politics show.
I also covered, in one of our recent shows,
the collapse of the collusion narrative.
Now, rewind the tape a little bit.
So now you understand where I'm going with this.
They're ready to switch the narrative now
from collusion to racism.
They're going to move on.
Why is that happening?
Folks, they want this investigation now,
this collusion investigation to go away.
I know, Joe, even you, you're probably listening going, come on, Dan.
Seriously?
They've been married to this thing for a year.
Why would they want it to go away?
Because, folks, it's turning on them rapidly.
Evidence is the show I did yesterday on the new narrative about what started the Trump investigation.
Now it's George Papadopoulos.
Now back to the Andy McCarthy thing, because I kind of left that hanging out there.
McCarthy has a piece which will be in the show notes today. Please. I know I say this a lot.
Please. I'm begging you. If you don't want to go to my way, I know it's my website.
I have it up on Gino dot com for you there. I'll have it at the show notes. I can email it to you if you're on my email list.
Please join.
I understand if you don't want to do any of that.
I'm cool with it, okay?
If not, just go to National Review
or Andy McCarthy's Twitter feed and read it there.
I don't care.
I just need you to read this.
It's not short.
It's about 1,200 words.
Take you about 15 minutes to get through.
It is a stunning piece put out
yesterday about how
the story about how this investigation
into Trump started has now
changed three times.
Now, I know I may
be losing you. Well,
first you said they were going to switch the narrative away from
Trump and the collusion narrative
because it was going to hurt them.
Why is it hurting them?
And what does that have to do with the narrative changing three times?
Because ladies and gentlemen,
as the walls close in on the Democrats,
it's becoming more and more apparent every day.
Something I brought up,
I think every other day for the last six months now,
it's becoming more apparent every day that Hillary Clinton's and DNC and her
campaign paid to spy on Donald Trump.
That's it.
They paid Russian intel through Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS, who coordinated with
the wife of a Justice Department official, Bruce Orr, Nellie Orr, who worked at Fusion
GPS, to put together a fake
Russian intel document to spy on an incoming president. Think about what I just told you.
The DNC and Hillary Clinton paid Russian intel for information used to spy on an incoming
president of the opposing party.
You think the Democrats don't know this?
The genesis of this entire investigation, folks,
was a dossier put forth by Russian intel through intermediaries in the Democrat Party.
That is why they keep changing the story
about how this started.
Because how it started, Joe,
is devastating to the Democrat Party.
So now,
in addition to changing the story
about how it started, Joe,
because the way it started
will destroy the Democrat Party
when this comes out.
If they can't change the story
on how it started,
they're going to switch to racism again.
You see where I'm going with this?
Yeah, I can even see the timing overlap here.
Of course you can.
Now, here's, so now they're shifting to racism.
But as a backup plan, they're trying to change the story about how the investigation started into Trump and the spying away from the dossier.
started into Trump and the spying away from the dossier.
Andy McCarthy's piece, I'm just going to give you a couple snippets, and there's links in there to the piece, to show you how the story's changed now three times.
Here's a quote from the piece.
This is how his piece starts off.
This was a headline from the New York Times that ran on April 20th, 2017.
You tracking me, folks? April 20th, 2017. You tracking me, folks?
April 20th of 2017.
This was the headline about how the investigation into Trump started.
Headline from the New York Times.
Trump advisors visit to Moscow got the FBI's attention.
That was the page one headline the New York times ran on April 20th,
2017 above it,
above its breathless report that a quote catalyst for the FBI investigation
into connections between Russia and president Trump's campaign was a June
2016 visit to Moscow by Carter page,
right?
Wait,
Joe,
I just told you yesterday that the New York Times,
the same New York Times which reported on April 20th,
that the genesis of the Russian investigation was a June 2016 visit to
Moscow by Carter Page.
I just told you yesterday reported that it was George Papadopoulos in a
drunken episode in a bar that started the investigation.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So you're telling me the New York slimes
that had something like six investigative reporters or so
working on this massive expose by Joe,
anonymous sources,
told us in April of now, last year, 2017,
told us in April that they were sure, they put their journalistic credibility on it,
that a visit by a 46-level backbencher in the upper bleachers of the backbench,
Carter Page, who had the loosest of affiliations
with the Trump team at best,
visited Russia
and that started the whole investigation.
That's what you told us in April.
You're a journalistic outfit.
You have one job, report the facts.
That's what you told us.
But wait, Joe, yesterday
they said that's not you told us. But wait, Joe, yesterday,
they said that's not the case.
Yesterday, they claimed that it was now George Papadopoulos,
another 47th row of the backbench
in the bleachers,
must be in the front row.
That guy was drunk at a bar
talking to a diplomat
and said that the Russians
may have dirt on Hillary Clinton,
despite the fact that everybody in the known universe already knew that.
No, no, now that's what happened, Joe.
You're laughing because you're like, wait, I can't keep the lie straight.
It's true.
It gets worse.
Now, remember, because I'm going to lay this out for you.
They need to change the story
about the genesis of this investigation
because the true story is horrifying.
The DNC and Hillary Clinton paid the Russians
to spy on the Trump campaign.
Don't ever forget that.
They can't have that story get out. So first it was Carter
Page did it. Now, you may say to yourself, Joe, this may be one of the most important shows we've
ever done because it talks about the sickness and the moral vacuum these Democrats live in.
Fair enough question you may have as the audience ombudsman, and I didn't ask, but you may,
is, well, why did they change, if the Carter Page story was, the Carter Page story is not
the dossier story, right, Joe?
Right.
So what's the problem?
Why not just stick with that?
The problem, folks, is blaming Carter Page puts emphasis on the dossier.
How is that?
Well, in the McCarthy piece,
he goes into fine detail in some of his other pieces on this as well. But in the dossier, Joe,
it talks about how Carter Page and his trip to Moscow, again, this 47th row backbencher,
when he was over in Russia, made some deal, Joe, that he was going to be some conduit to expose Hillary Clinton by the Russians
and the Russians were going to give him
a billion dollar stake in an energy company.
You have Spider-Man?
What?
What?
Play Natalie Portman again.
Are you like a crazy person?
So Carter Page, what?
He was crazy enough?
As the Times once should believe believe some trump surrogate which he was like a serious backbencher meaning this guy had his affiliation was loose at
best he went over to moscow and caught a deal with the russians for billions of dollars to expose the
hillary campaign there it is it's tied up joe all. All right. Carter Page should be in federal prison, right?
This is it.
Russian collusion.
They've got it.
What's the problem?
What I just told you was in the dossier.
What's the subsequent problem?
It's not true.
It's been entirely debunked.
Page doesn't even know these people they claimed he met with.
It's been... Why isn't, ladies and
gentlemen, you disbelieve what I'm telling you? Why isn't
the guy in jail?
Why? Why isn't he in jail?
Because it's not true.
It's fake.
It was planted information.
So now,
you see where I'm going with this, Joe? The original
April 20th, New York Times,
Carter Page did it
because they need to keep attention away from the dossier.
Keep in mind,
the original narrative,
at the time they didn't need to keep,
they just needed a genesis for this thing.
So they said Carter Page did it.
Now they start to figure out
that the FBI never vetted this information, Joe.
That the dossier is colossal
BS.
So what do they do?
They can't implicate Carter Page because
implicating Carter Page requires you to
believe in the dossier.
So they have to move on.
Now,
this is before anybody
knew the dossier was false.
Obviously, or they wouldn't have mentioned Carter Page in April.
Now, you may say, well, when did they start to figure out the dossier was wrong?
Well, once they found out the DNC paid Russian Intel for it with Hillary Clinton.
Now, if you're following at home, you're saying, OK, I now have two narratives, not three, about how this started.
Yesterday's narrative, which is the third one, Papadopoulos did it.
He was drunk in a bar.
Said they had dirt on Hillary.
Whoa, man.
Interesting how they didn't interview Papadopoulos or surveil him, by the way, for like six months later.
Incredible.
Guy knew everything about an election that was about to be disrupted and nobody did a damn thing.
Whoa, nice job fellas good well
done first narrative
why I'm reading these out of order for a reason
first narrative Carter Page did it
how do we know because it says so in the dossier
they were so
the media
the liberal hacks in the media and these
deranged liberals were so
confident that the FBI
this is pay attention here, please.
Joe, if I lose the audience, stop me.
All right.
The liberal hacks in the media and these liberal maniacs
were so convinced that the FBI was going to do their dirty work
and vet the dossier they paid for through Russian intel, that
they breathlessly promoted this dossier before even understanding that it was total BS.
How do I know that?
Again, a link provided from McCarthy's piece.
I'll read you the headline.
CNN Politics, Joe.
April 18th, 2017.
Two days before the Carter Page story.
Right?
Okay.
Headline.
FBI used dossier allegations to bolster Trump-Russia investigation.
Wait, it gets better.
Here's the opening line from the piece.
The opening paragraph.
April 18th, 2017. Two days before the Carter Page news broke. Smell of a leak, Joe gets better. Here's the opening line from the piece. The opening paragraph. April 18th, 2017.
Two days before the Carter Page news broke.
Smell of a leak, Joe?
Yeah.
The FBI last year used a dossier of allegations of Russian ties to Donald Trump's campaign
as part of the justification to win approval to secretly monitor a Trump associate, according
to U.S. officials briefed on the investigation. Who do you think that Trump associate, according to U.S. officials, briefed on the investigation.
Who do you think that Trump associate was?
Carter freaking Page.
You folks see what's going on right now?
Yeah.
Do you understand how I believe so much in this story
that I'm willing to drill it into your
eardrums every day because if you
don't understand what's happening here
or you're willing to sideline it and say,
you know what, Dan, we've got to move on. We've got other things.
Obamacare tax. We do. Taxes, healthcare.
I get it. School choice.
There are a number of pressing issues.
But I'm telling
you, as I've said on cable news and on this
place, on this show many times, we cannot possibly move on as a country until we get an answer to the question from the Democrats. that they paid Russian intel to spy through our government in a FISA court
on their opposition political party and a soon-to-be president of the United States.
Nothing else can happen.
I don't mean nothing else legislatively.
I mean nothing else on this or this collusion or this special counsel,
nothing until that question is answered.
or this collusion or this special counsel?
Nothing until that question is answered.
Because you have right now a genuine, legitimate,
non-hyperbolic or melodramatic threat
to everything the constitutional republic stands for.
If an elected president,
elected through the most democratic process known to man in a constitutional republic framework, that is, can be taken down because an opposition political party pays money to a foreign actor to plant fake information about their opponents.
Nothing else can happen until we get that answer.
Folks. This is bad. their opponents. Nothing else can happen until we get that answer. Folks,
this is bad.
I understand. I'm a
conservative. I get it.
I don't pretend. I'm not a journalist.
I'm not pretending that a lot of what I
say is not tainted
with emotion in this. It is.
I get that.
I am emotional about it.
But the difference between our emotion
and the liberal anti-Trump emotion
is everything I just told you is true.
I read to you the CNN headline.
I read to you the New York Times headline. I read to you the CNN headline. I read to you the New York Times headline.
I read to you the conflicting stories.
I played for you an audio tape of a joker clown on MSNBC
accusing Trump of being a racist.
I told you what Robbie Mook said about changing this narrative now.
Nothing I've told you is false.
But I can tell you what is false.
That the Democrat Party anymore stands for truth and justice.
This is a disgrace.
This is a national disgrace and a stain on our nation.
I don't care where you are on Trump.
Anti-Trump, never Trump, never, never, never Trump.
Because if you're never, never Trump, you're actually Trump.
But if you're never, never, never Trump, you're really never Trump.
I don't really care where you are.
This country will collapse if we don't get an answer on this.
Because Republicans and conservatives out there will never trust an election again.
If you take down this president without ever once having proved one single charge of Russian
collusion, yet we can prove affirmatively that you just made this entire thing up,
we now officially would be living in a banana republic.
It's a really sad story.
And the fact that liberals are playing along with it,
you disgust me.
You do.
If you're listening,
if you believe this,
and you're promoting this collusion fairy tale,
and you promoted the use,
the weaponization of government to spy
at an opposing political party
to further your sick political agenda,
you're slobs.
Animals.
Subhuman man-beasts.
Destroyed the greatest country on earth because you lost an election.
Animals.
Look yourself in the mirror.
Look in the mirror and know what you did.
Horrible.
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I know I say
it a lot, and you may think I'm kidding
when I say I didn't spend
spit it out, Dan. Got so excited about that story. Planned to spend as much'm kidding when I say I didn't spend, spit it out, Dan. Just got so
excited about that story. Planned to spend as much time on it, but I didn't. I have a few other
things to get to. But it really is an important story, folks, that if the Democrats are just,
they're really sick. They're losing their minds. They're going to destroy the country in the
process. All right. Story number two. There is a great, great piece at Powerline Blog.
I'm going to put in the show notes again,
available at Bongino.com,
or you can subscribe to my email list,
about never Trumpism and how, guys, ladies,
it's just time to move on.
You know, and if the piece was that simple,
like it's time to move on, I wouldn't promote it.
Like I only promote pieces I think provide a deeper level of understanding about things.
But the premise of the piece is this, and it's a really good one, folks.
And I strongly encourage a lot of the conservatives listening who are still never Trumpers to consider the premise in it.
The premise is this, Joe, that never Trumpism now would be viable if Trump wasn't actually doing things that advance the conservative agenda. Ukrainians, whether it's been the tax cut agenda, the Trump administration war on red tape, getting out of the dreadful Paris Accords.
I mean, the list goes to the appointing of conservative justices, both a justice on the Supreme Court at the appellate court level, the district court level.
There are the conservative agenda in the first year has been advanced dramatically.
The premise of the piece then, Joe, is if you are an actual conservative who is a never
Trumper at this point, what are you basing your criticism on?
The answer is a simple one, Joe.
It's style.
It has to be.
Joe, I'm not messing with you.
Do you have another answer to that?
Not really.
I mean, if you're a conservative,
which I know you are,
and you see what's happening,
tax cuts,
the advocacy for school choice,
the attack on horrible regulation.
Again, the list goes on and on and on.
We've already talked about it, right?
You have to have another attack.
You can't say, well, Trump isn't cutting taxes.
Well, he is.
Well, Trump isn't cutting red tape.
Well, he is.
Your attack has to be on, well, it's style and his approach to the office.
It's not presidential.
Listen, you're entitled to your opinion on that.
I'm not, you know, I personally don't care.
But what I like about the piece is he makes a point that I think a lot of people overlook.
For you to still insist that we would be better off
without what Trump is doing now,
in other words, with Hillary as president,
is for you to ignore the fact
that we could quite literally be nuked in Guam or Hawaii
or some of our West Coast territories by North Korea,
like right now.
No, I mean, I'm dead serious.
Like this is that Trump's renewed.
We could be nuked today.
Like for you to attack the president now is to say that not crushing ISIS,
which was clearly not a Clinton priority or an Obama prior,
despite their rhetoric.
I'm just basing it on the evidence.
ISIS took over an enormous amount of land under the Obama administration
with Hillary as Secretary of State.
Yeah.
Some portion of that.
For you to say that is to say,
well, crushing ISIS isn't that big of a deal.
I'd prefer the president not tweet.
Wait, wait, come again?
Explain that to me again?
So you'd rather the West Coast get nuked?
Now, you may say, Dan, you're setting up a straw man.
Okay, fair enough on the West Coast being nuked. Probably if Hillary say, Dan, you're setting up a straw man. Okay, fair enough on the West Coast being nuked.
Probably if Hillary was president,
we still wouldn't be looking at the likelihood of that tomorrow.
I'm not suggesting she would let it happen.
It's probably a bit of a straw man.
But the ISIS argument is absolutely not one.
Obama was president, ISIS expanded.
Trump's president, ISIS is annihilated, lost most of its land.
Those are just facts.
Again, on the economy.
Obama's president, we averaged 2% growth, worst recovery from a recession in modern American history.
Just the facts, whether you agree with them or not, is irrelevant to me.
That speaks to your problem, not mine.
So you're saying right now as a dad, a husband, an employee at a company,
you would rather the economy be in the doldrums still
because you don't like Trump's tweets.
Does that make any sense?
Are you deranged?
Are you like a crazy person?
I'm sorry.
I love that cut so much.
Do you have mental problems?
You're so worried about Trump's tweets
and you don't like the elegance of his speech
that you would rather your kids not get a job,
you would rather suffer,
you'd rather, what, terrorist attacks on our home?
I don't know.
I don't get where you're going with this.
To question style over substance
at this point is almost to be deranged.
It's a really good piece.
I'm going to put it in there, the show notes today.
I strongly encourage you to read it.
Oh, where am I going to go next here?
Oh, this is a good one.
So another common thread that I've brought up in the show often
because it speaks to how Democrats, the narrative,
it's always about the narrative,
how they have to switch the narrative,
the narrative, man, every single time.
And especially, it's a pungent argument to me
because I lived in Northeast high-tax states.
I bring up a lot how people are fleeing these states,
income is leaving high-tax states
and are fleeing to low-tax states.
Now, for normal, reasonable people who use logic,
you would say to yourself, well, Joe, that's called a pattern.
Yeah.
Or as we would say on this show, some people would call it a clue.
But yeah, it is a pattern and a clue at the same time.
There's a pattern developing.
Now, normal people look for patterns and look for the reasons and the core.
What's at the core of that pattern? What is forcing people
or incentivizing people to leave high-tax states to low-tax states? Well, again, reasonable people
would say the taxes, right? So interesting piece in the Wall Street Journal today, about $200
billion over the last decade or so in adjusted gross income. Think about what I just told you.
$200 billion in income has fled California, New York, and high-tax states into Nevada, into Florida, into Texas, into these states.
States with either no income tax or very low income taxes where they have fled to.
Now, why am I bringing this up again?
Not to keep beating the death.
It's obvious to our listeners that people are leaving
these states because the taxes are too high the salt limitation in the tax bill is even forcing
democrats who had told us forever joe if you're a regular listener to show that oh taxes that's not
the reason that's just a small reason People are leaving for other reasons too.
Really?
It's been an odd change of heart since the SALT limitation.
Now, what was the SALT limitation?
The tax cut plan has a $10,000 limit on SALT's an acronym, state and local taxes.
So if you're paying high taxes in those states, you used to be able to deduct an almost unlimited amount.
Now you can only deduct $ 10,000 in taxes.
So if you're a,
you know,
making 10,
20 million a year and you're paying the state of New York,
$300,000 in taxes,
you now lost $290,000 in deductions.
Cause you can only deduct 10,000 now.
Right.
Joe,
the Democrats are in a panic.
You think I'm making this up?
New York,
uh,
New York state controller, this guy DiNapoli, Democrat,
is starting to worry that when middle-class families feel the impact of this,
they're going to flee the state.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Time out.
Time out.
Joe, you live in Maryland.
I lived in Maryland.
People have been telling us for years that that's not the case,
that people aren't fleeing the state because of taxes.
It's just a small reason.
So why turn around and acknowledge it now?
Oh, you've been lying the whole time?
You have Steve Sweeney, this legislator in the state Senate in New Jersey,
Democrat, acknowledging again that a millionaire's tax in New Jersey
may not be a good idea right now
because we don't want to see those people leaving.
And he acknowledged that the top 1% of New Jersey
pay an overwhelming proportion of the taxes.
I thought that didn't matter.
To the Democrats listening,
do you see how everything you've been telling us is a lie?
You've been lying to us the entire time.
We know it.
You know it.
You know it.
Now that reality is hitting you in the face and that people are going to actually be forced
to pay the tax load you
and you alone have imposed upon them,
now all of a sudden you're changing your tune
and acknowledging what we said years ago,
but you said what we said was false.
That taxes matter and people are leaving.
But folks, you think I'm making this up?
Google people leaving Maryland,
people leaving New York, high taxes
and watch the Democrats in all those pieces a year ago
saying, oh, that's not the reason.
No, that's not the reason.
As they now acknowledge,
I'm telling you, if you're a liberal listening to the show,
you've been living a lie.
You've been living a lie your entire life.
It's time for you to wake up.
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because you know this drives me nuts.
The school choice story matters to me.
Yeah, it does because I am a de facto product of it myself.
I would not be speaking to you in coherent English right now
if I didn't have educational opportunities put in front of me as a child
that, frankly, given our income level as a family,
should not have been available.
Why that opportunity does not avail itself to struggling poor families,
struggling black and Hispanic families, white families as well,
is bizarre.
Now, as I've said to you opening up the show, and I'll say to you again, they're deranged.
A lot of liberals are deranged.
Their war on inner city black children is racist.
It is a racist war, and I don't throw that label around loosely.
It's race, loosely, excuse me, because as Jason Reilly said in a Wall Street Journal piece,
there are 20,000 public high schools in the country.
Just 2,000 of them are responsible for half the dropouts.
If you're black, you have a 50% chance of sending your kid to one of those schools.
So targeting school choice, knowing that it disproportionately affects black communities,
is the very definition of racism.
Why am I bringing this up?
There's a piece in a Wall Street Journal today that should absolutely blow your mind.
Detroit, Joe, which has some of the worst public schools in the country.
There's a charter school, Detroit Prep, that's looking to expand.
It's 50% black.
65% of the students are low income.
It wants to buy a now defunct public school that's not being used.
Public school sold the school, the building, which was dilapidated, by the way, to a developer for $600,000.
Detroit Prep wants to buy the school.
There's no catch here, folks.
They want to buy the school for $750,000.
That's $150,000 over what the developer paid for the school.
Even worse, the public school district, because of a stipulation of the law, will get $150,000 from the sale.
They'll get it.
So the public school makes money.
The charter school, Detroit Prep, gets a school that they can fix up.
It's a minority, largely minority school, Detroit Prep, gets a school that they can fix up. It's a minority,
largely minority school, and it's overwhelmingly poor students. The legislature in Detroit,
they're blocking this now. What? Yeah, they're blocking it. And even worse, Joe, they're blocking it in superseding the law because in the law there's a stipulation that says
if this is not being sold to a residence
and it's being used for anything other than residential property,
the sale must be approved and they won't approve it.
If you're looking for a, why are they doing it?
Because they hate school choice.
The law specifically says not only do you have to approve the sale
if it's not a residence,
you have no legal intervention to stop it, and they're stopping it, and nobody's doing anything about it.
The case has to make its way through the court system.
Because this is what Democrats do.
They are stopping the sale of this thing, despite a law that specifically says they can't,
because they hate school choice so much.
And they are engaged in such a battle with the black community trying to take control of their own kids' futures that they would rather you be dependent on them because they have to be in control for a poor public education rather than giving young black poor kids a way out of a really horrible, horrible future
because they'll have no education at all.
Unbelievable.
But that's what Democrats do.
All right, folks, thanks again for tuning in.
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