The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 638 Can Washington DC Swamp Rats Ever Tell the Truth?

Episode Date: January 22, 2018

Make no mistake, the Democrats shut your government down. Stunning new text messages about the “investigation” into Hillary Clinton. The FBI lost critical text messages? Why is the NSA “missi...ng” critical data on surveillance? An incredible article from last year showing the depths of the Obama administration’s deep-state subterfuge.  Why was the NSA under Obama so committed to “sharing” information in new and creative ways?    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Good for material. Gosh. You know, by the way, you've been like infecting my brain in a good way. I'm calling everyone Beb now. Hey, Beb, Beb, Beb, Beb. Wife, kids, friends, neighbors. Hey, Beb, Beb. That's an Armacost thing.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Everybody's Beb. That's a John. I really, I just said that to you, right? I'm like, all right, Beb, let's get this going. It's a Baltimore thing, so it didn't phase me. I'm so used to it. Man, you didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You didn't realize why I was saying that. Yeah, Beb. Hey, listen, I got a lot to talk about. There's a lot of debunking to do on the shutdown, getting a ton of questions about it the democrats are lying again because that's what they do um again i'm not talking about democrats out there in the country voting people who are generally fed up with a lot of what's going on i'm talking about democrats on capitol hill that are seemingly immune to the truth they're telling you things that are so factually
Starting point is 00:01:20 incorrect that a modicum of research on it would show you that they are just misleading you and lying to you. I also have some, let's call them interesting developments on the ongoing spying scandal. And I've got a, Joe, you know, I keep saying order matters here, right? Yeah. Houses broken into, cops show up. Yeah. Pretty standard stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Cops show up, houses broken into. You got a problem? Ruh-roh. Order. Ruh-roh. Ruh-roh. Order, ruh-roh, shaggy. I've got some interesting order matters stuff here too and some sound bites that are going to blow your mind again.
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Starting point is 00:03:39 That's what shutdowns were. Now we have some evidence of this now. Mick Mulvaney, who is the OMB director now, is also managing the CFPB, has been out there as the face of this shutdown. Hey, hold on one second. I got to turn the fan on. Hold on. All right, go ahead. Sorry, folks. Joe had to cut a second of the show out there. I had to turn the fan on. I feel like I'm in a sauna cutting weight for an MMA match here. So remember the Obama shutdown? The Obama shutdown, they stuck it to you.
Starting point is 00:04:10 They did things because this is what liberal Democrats do. They weaponize government. They weaponize government in the form of the IRS. They weaponize government with the spying scandal. These things all tie together, folks. They're interrelated. It's not conspiracy theory stuff. If it actually happened, then it actually did happen.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So Mick Mulvaney, who's been the face of the Trump team during this Democrat enforced shutdown, I'll go through that in a second. He's been out there publicly saying, listen, we're going to do everything we can to minimize the impact on American citizens of this government shutdown. Wait, what? Joe, I thought the idea of a government shutdown under the Obama administration when they did it was to really stick it to the American people and make them feel the pain because it's not like they actually pay for the... Oh, wait, they do. Okay. Now, Joe, do you remember that shutdown?
Starting point is 00:04:56 I remember it vividly. Yeah. I was in Maryland at the time. Remember the World War II memorial? Oh, yeah. They put up the barricades to keep out folks i was there like not in maryland like at the scene when it was going down yep they put up barricades to keep world war ii veterans in wheelchairs away from the world war ii memorial i'm not kidding
Starting point is 00:05:20 i was there so what did milvaney say about this shutdown of course they're going to do the same thing right the federal government now under trump they're going to stick it to the taxpayer ah no wrong what did he say mulvaney and i'm quoting here this shutdown will look very different than it did under previous administrations we are not going to weaponize it so what are they doing joe national parks they're keeping them quote open and as accessible as possible all right We are not going to weaponize it. So what are they doing, Joe? National parks. They're keeping them, quote, open and as accessible as possible. All right. They're allowing the EPA to run with emergency funds.
Starting point is 00:05:52 They're trying to get people paid with extra funds they have laying around. They're doing the best they can to not basically gut punch, liver shot, kidney punch, the American people who financed this government. Yeah, I hear you. I got, you know, I mean. Yeah. Let me read you a quote from the, folks, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't, you know, with the show, we try to dial, we try to use reason.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I try not to get emotional because I don't like faux emotions a rookie move in radio and podcast scream and yell a lot but this is ridiculous this is ridiculous I was there I saw these World War II vets get off the bus and be denied access
Starting point is 00:06:37 I was down there I was like is this happening? what is this like the Gestapo? here's a quote from the Wall Street Journal. I'm going to get to the mechanics of the shutdown in a second, too, because they're lying to you. Talking about the contrast in the Obama shutdown and now the Schumer shutdown, where Trump and their team are trying to do everything in their power to facilitate government while it's, quote, shut down. Which doesn't really shut down.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I think we all know that's a myth. Wall Street Journal says, by contrast, the Obama administration acted fast to block and lock down parks and public lands. This is, listen to this, folks. Register every morsel of this. Going on. every morsel of this going on on the eve of the 2013 shutdown park service spokeswoman jennifer mumart emailed colleagues about a scheduled world war ii memorial visit by aging or terminally ill veterans
Starting point is 00:07:36 joe please leave these pauses in there because I know sometimes Joe will edit out silence in the show. But I'm seriously formulating how I'm going to read to you the next sentence in a way that will impact you enough that you will never forget what a piece of garbage a lot of people in the Obama administration were. a lot of people in the Obama administration were. So what I'm about to read to you again is a quote by this Jennifer Murmart, the Park Service spokeswoman, talking about a government shutdown and how they were going to handle terminally ill World War II veterans going to the World War II Memorial. Here's her quote. She asked whether, quote, we are physically preventing people through use of some barrier to gaining access, you know, like jersey barriers, fence tape, saw horses or something. Holy.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Gosh, I don't curse on the show. But do I ever want to right now? I know it's not the right thing to do, folks. But if there was ever a time I wanted to drop a bomb on this show, this is it. How do we restrain,
Starting point is 00:08:55 contain, and block off terminally ill World War II veterans from seeing an open memorial? They're contemplating how to do it, Joseph. Joe, look at... You're going full screen right now, okay, pal? Beam in on me, brother.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Do we use jersey barriers, fence tape, saw horses or something? Tell you what, how about nightsticks? How about we just beat the crap out of them? How does that sound? What about handcuffs? Maybe, you know, Joe, maybe not even handcuffs. Maybe the flexi-ties? You know does that sound? What about handcuffs? Maybe, you know, Joe, maybe not even handcuffs.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Maybe the flexi ties. You know the flexi tie handcuffs. Maybe just plastic handcuffs. Joe, here's an idea. Here's an idea. I was there when they came out in the wheelchairs, by the way. You know like the boots
Starting point is 00:09:38 they put on cars when you don't pay parking tickets? Why don't we boot their wheelchairs? Let's do that. Let's get the government boot for wheelchairs. Folks, do you understand? This story is not unrelated to Obamagate and Trump spying, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm making a connection here, and this is what I think we do on this show uniquely in many respects. We tie in themes and stories that are seemingly unrelated but aren't. The Obama administration, these people saw government as a tool. I said this in the Glenn Beck show, gosh, five years ago when I was running for office. They were new to government.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I remember the transition, seeing them looking around like a bunch of deer in headlights. They saw government as a cute little toy to inflict damage, to reward their friends, to conquer their enemies. Obama even said it at one point. Yeah, he did. Remember that? Yeah, I sure do.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It was their cute little damn toy to hurt people, to damage people, to reward their friends, to conquer their enemies. This is what they do. It was the same thing with the spying scandal which i'll get believe me i got some joe put together a nice quick couple portfolio a little portfolio of soundbites that are damning they did this to damage people
Starting point is 00:10:59 here let me read another quote from the piece deputy superintendent of operations karen uh kuka kuku rola what man is that name appropriate kukarolo kukarolo kukarolo kukarolo replied about this the barricades to keep the terminal eo world war ii vets out she replied yeah signs and barricades yeah like that makes sense no sweat here's what's even worse about this story in the journal. I'm not going to put it in the show notes. It's subscription only, but I'm giving you the gist of it. The same people, Joe. Same people.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. Cucurolo and the other lady with the park service that were barricading out World War II veterans from an open memorial. The exact same people. Did I take the quote in here? Oh, yeah, here we go. I wrote the quote down because I didn't want to take too many screenshots. When asked about gaining access, Joe,
Starting point is 00:11:55 by employees to National Park Service offices for stuff they may have needed personally and professionally, these are the insiders, the bureaucrats, the swamp rats we've been talking about forever. The Cucarolo National Park Service team there replied back, oh yeah, no problem. Just put the barricades back. That's an email. That's not me making it up.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It's not a conspiracy theory. These were government employees, Joe, making sure their own were taken care of. Oh yeah, no problem. Go right into the office. Just put the barricades back. But those World War II vets, they go anywhere near that. You make sure you get them in a triangle choke and choke them right out. I think they get the golden turd award for that. Do we have a golden
Starting point is 00:12:38 turd award? Can we have that made up? We'll have to do fake gold because neither Joe nor I can afford a turd big enough in gold. That would be about $20,000, $25,000. But we're going to do that. We're going to get that made up. By the way, I'm going to be running a contest soon for a signed book. And Brian Kilmeade was nice enough to send over some books.
Starting point is 00:12:54 All right. I just haven't figured out how I'm going to do the contest. So I have five books from Brian Kilmeade, and I'll include five of my signed new book. And I love contests. I love giving stuff away to my audience. We'll send you both, Kilmeade and my book. I'm just trying to figure out new book. And I love contests. I love giving stuff away to my audience. We'll send you both. Kill Meat and My Boy. I'm just trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:13:06 how we're going to do the contest. If you have any suggestions, email me. Daniel at Bongino.com. Always looking for cool ideas and always looking for free stuff to give away to you guys because I love you all and ladies out there. Yeah, Joe.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I mean, it's the kind of story where you have to be really cautious before the show because it's easy to scream. Yeah. But folks, do you see the relationship here between how liberals and their love affair with government as what they believe to be? I don't mean to wax philosophical here, but this is important you understand this. wax philosophical here, but this is important you understand this. Liberals are obsessed with the idea that the only benevolent force in society worth supporting with tax dollars, control, assets, money, scarce resources is government. That people in government, they believe don't have an incentive to do the wrong thing. That government, if it gets the money, will do the
Starting point is 00:13:59 right thing, will allocate resources better, will take care of people, will show compassion. allocate resources better. We'll take care of people. We'll show compassion. But do you understand by doing that, you're also empowering one of the only forces in our society that has a monopoly on force, the ability to take your life and take your freedom. And when you empower that force, it is inherently corrupting. Folks, think about Joe. Think about other powerful entities in society that are in government, right? Apple. I'm not knocking Apple as a company. I'm just saying Apple, Joe, we can both agree, has a whole lot of money, a whole lot of influence, a whole lot of employees, and a whole lot of products we all use. That's power.
Starting point is 00:14:33 That's power, folks. That's hard power and soft power. The problem with Apple is Apple can't arrest you. Right. And Apple can't force you to do a damn thing. They can incentivize you to do something they can say hey if you go to android we're gonna pull our itunes library but it doesn't matter you if you just say oh i don't really care i'm just gonna buy an android no one is going to
Starting point is 00:14:54 arrest you when you're a liberal and you see government as a benevolent force and as a result of that you know air quotes here benevolent force and a philanthropic will of government and you empower thinking it's a good thing and you empower a force that has the monopolistic power to take your life your freedom your money and everything else it is inherently corrupting as lord acton said power corrupts an absolute power corrupts absolutely and that is absolutely true bingo they have weaponized this eight years of weaponizing government. The IRS attacking conservatives. The government in a shutdown attacking World War II vets. The Obama administration attacking the Trump team. The Obama administration having people arrested. Mike Flynn, this Papadopoulos guy. These are not independent stories. Why do you think I'm a conservative?
Starting point is 00:15:45 I'm a conservative precisely because I worked for the government and saw the massive power of the United States government. The discretionary power to ruin your life. Fascinating. Also, this weekend, I don't want to jump ahead, but the FBI claims to have lost critical texts about, yeah, like Homer Simpson time, right? I mean, meanwhile, Joe,
Starting point is 00:16:10 if you and I were being audited in our new company here, we've started because we got a ton of things going on, by the way. Yeah. A ton between the book and NRA TV and everything like that. If you and I were to lose a single document about taxes, we'd be in jail or fine. You bet.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Kind of scam is this? You think this is what the founding fathers fought for? I would argue, you know, a tyrannical King in England didn't have the power. Now that's supposedly a Liberty loving constitutional Republic has to impact your life today. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Getting back to this. On the budget shutdown. Because there's just a couple of critical myths that need to be debunked immediately. And I'm going to move on to some other content. Because I do have a ton of stuff to talk about today. It's unfortunately a busy news day. I mean that. It's great for my show, but I'm an American citizen.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I don't want great show content. I can give you a great show without watching my country fall apart. So DACA, number one. The Democrats are now insisting. They're starting to move away from it a little bit because they're realizing how bad it looks that the democrats shut down the government over illegal immigrants but their initial proposal and this was i had a debate with chris han and judge janine on saturday night and they all coordinate their talking points folks the democrats they're saying well you know there
Starting point is 00:17:42 was bipartisan agreement on a daca deal that stands for Deferred Amnesty for Childhood Arrivals. OK. Their talking point is there was bipartisan agreement on that and the Republicans are not passing a budget because of this DACA deal, even though there was bipartisan agreement. Let me debunk this stupidity immediately. Folks, let me tell you in no uncertain terms and to the liberals listening, there is no DACA bill. There is no DACA bill.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Now, Chris Hahn, who I debated, decided to engage in this, what they always do, this, hey, look, shiny red ball, like squirrel. Watch, deer. I mean, this is what they do. He said, well, there was bipartisan agreement on one. Folks, there's bipartisan agreement that snow is cold. That doesn't mean there's a recognition of snow is cold bill getting ready for the president to sign.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Bipartisan agreement doesn't mean anything. Listen to me. There is no DACA bill. For liberals, let me say it again. There is no DACA bill. Then Han came back with another one because, you know, is not enough they got to compound it he came back and said well the the senate's working on one now um Joe are you were you a civics major in college uh no no okay you weren't neither was I okay now neither of you and I are inside politician swamp rats, right? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Let me ask you this. All right. Up on Capitol Hill, is there... I'm going to give you a few choices. I mean, this is going to be a hard question. So, you know, really pay attention here to get the... As I used to say in my grammar school, Forest Brook Elementary, right? Put your thinking cap on.
Starting point is 00:19:20 All right. Is Capitol Hill, does it consist of just the House of Representatives, just the United States Senate, or the House of Representatives and the United States Senate? Go! Well, it's got them all, Dan. It's got the House of Representatives. Yeah, very good. This is not hard, folks. Matter of fact, I set that question up so stupid stupidly because there's no other way to do it
Starting point is 00:19:45 that i think looking at joey was like is this i don't know like are you messing with me here like this can't be this dumb so what do they come back with next they go well there was agreement in the senate on a daca bill okay but not in the house so what you're saying is what i just said that there was no bill ready for the president to sign on daca none so that's you're basically acknowledged as you're telling me i'm lying you're telling me I'm telling the truth at the same time. And this is what's upsetting me, let's say, about this. I'm trying, I know kids listen to this show. The Democrats, folks, this is why my anger, I couldn't wait to do the show today. By the way, I'll be doing a regular hit on Monday morning on Fox and Friends now.
Starting point is 00:20:30 So for those of you tuned, I got so much going on. I just want to make sure you all know. But I got up really early and I spent like three hours putting this together because I just don't understand how people get suckered so easily by nonsense Democrat talking points. They just make up. There's no daca bill there is no bill for the president to sign what i'm telling you is a fact there's no daca bill so any of your friends your liberal kook friends telling you the government was shut down over a daca bill say what's the bill number that's passed the house and the senate ready for the president to decide they don't have it it's made up there's no DACA bill we got to say things five and six times here i mean it's like can you just let me oh god folks seriously forgive me i shouldn't use
Starting point is 00:21:19 the lord's name in vain my apologies but can you just tell the truth for once? Can you just one time Democrats tell the truth? Do you understand that all of the Republicans are no great shakes? I think Joe and I have been relatively fair in our criticism of sellout Republicans. are just institutional liars. They lie to you about everything. There's no bill. There's no bill. You can't prove me wrong. Because there's nothing wrong. There's no bill. You shut down the government over nothing. The DACA deadline isn't even until March 5th. There's no bill.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So you say, well, why did they shut it down? Because the Democrats weaponized government, just like Obama gave you the double barrel middle finger when he shut down the government in 2013, refused to sign the budget that actually passed and told World War
Starting point is 00:22:20 II terminally ill veterans to beat it and get back on the bus. Oh, yeah. Darn right. This is what Democrats do. The party of John F. Kennedy is dead. These are tyrants. These alleged civil rights activists on the Democrat side are nothing but enforcers of
Starting point is 00:22:43 lies, manipulation and the police state. That's it. And when they don't get that Antifa style violence, that's all they are. There is no more to this party. A couple more nonsensical talking points they put out because this is what Han hit me with on Saturday night. And he's again, they're just making it up now joe they're realizing that well we're shutting down the government for a daca bill that doesn't exist and our messaging is what that american taxpayers have no government now because we want illegal immigrants to have amnesty uh not really a winner joe right ding ding ding ding ding ding. Probably not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So now what are they doing? They're trying to change their messaging here. So Han hit me with this other one. Well, no, no. The real reason now, Joe, is the Democrats don't want to fund their military with a continuing resolution. In other words, there should be some extended budget timeline planning, an actual year-long budget, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Wait, wait, wait. Come again? Folks, you do understand, right? For eight years under Barack Obama, they funded the military with a continuing resolution. So now let me get this straight. Now that Trump's in office, CRs are no good anymore. They were great under Obama.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And by the way, I agree CRs are a really stupid idea, continuing resolutions, that we should plan out in advance like any other entity. I'm absolutely in agreement. But your logic now you're using with us that you expect us to believe like dopes is that now all of a sudden CRs are horrible. So, Joe, the alternative is let's not fund the military at all. Double barrel middle finger again. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Finally, it takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. Why am I telling you that? Joe is not a civics instructor. Neither am I. Why would you need 60 votes in the Senate to overcome a filibuster? Because who is filibustering the budget bill? The Democrats. It's not the Republicans. How are the Republicans shutting the government down? How? The Democrats are literally on the record filibustering the budget to open the government. The Republicans need 60 votes. They only have 51. They can't do it alone. The Democrats are filibustering the
Starting point is 00:25:07 budget and they have the cojones to go out there on TV and say, man, this is the Trump shutdown. How? How is it the Trump shutdown? Are you this stupid? The answer is they're not. They're just liars. They're just like they've always been liars. just liars they're just like they've always been liars that was the how that i think a lot of listeners and and folks in general need to hear because they were filibustering so that they're the guys that were against it and joe keep in mind yeah they don't have to filibuster yeah this could pass with a republican majority if the democrats just said we're not going to filibuster it. But the Democrats are actively taking a filibuster step to block the government from opening. Now, to overcome the Democrats' obstruction, the Republicans can't pass it with a simple majority.
Starting point is 00:25:57 They need Democrats to come on board. And the Democrats are saying, no, we're not going to open a government. And dopey people actually believe the Republicans shut the government down. Oh, you know, I've never told you about my transformative moment for me. I was generally an independent in college. I had, you know, I wouldn't say I was liberal, but, you know, like most kids in college, unfortunately, you haven't had a lot of world experience. You know, I don't like to like slap millennials. Millennials are good kids.
Starting point is 00:26:23 They just don't know much. I mean, you know, and I'm sorry you haven't been out in the world. You know, I don't like to like slap millennials. Millennials are good kids. They just don't know much. I mean, you don't. I'm sorry you haven't been out in the world. You know, life tends to smack you in the face. Joe and I've had more smacks in the face in the past year alone than I had in my entire year. You know, four years in college, right? But I remember sitting through college and listening to lectures about overpopulation and how humans were like a virus on the planet. And one day I'm sitting in a drugstore.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I'm waiting for a prescription. I had a throat infection and it was taken forever. And I pick up Rush Limbaugh's book and I forget what it was called back then. But I, you know, of course, at the time I was, I had listened to Limbaugh occasionally, but, you know, I believed the leftist thing that, oh, this guy, forget it. Tell Limbaugh, he's the worst. And I go to this chapter and conveniently that day or so, we had this conversation in the class about overpopulation. And I pick up this chapter in the book and Rush had laid out statistics in the book about how overpopulation of the globe is a
Starting point is 00:27:13 total myth. Like you could fit almost everybody in the world in the state of Texas with the equivalent floor space of like a European apartment and the rest of the world would be empty. And I was like, is that true? And I started doing some homework and forgive me if that isn't the exact number, but it's close to it. And I was like, wow, it is true. Like I've been lied to the whole time. And although there was no specific road to Damascus moment for me to find conservatism and the fight for liberty, I specifically remember that moment at least piquing my interest in like, well, what else have I been lied to about too? And I'm telling you folks, you've been lied to about just about everything. The Democrats have an allergy to the truth. All right. Now that we've entirely debunked this nonsense about DACA,
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Starting point is 00:30:33 Let's just say one of the things I think Joe and I do differently on the show is we try to keep things 30,000 feet and then lay out the case afterwards, but constantly bringing it back to the overall point, because the problem with some of these cases, especially the spying scandal, the Obamagate spying scandal on the Trump team is, ladies and gentlemen, it's so complicated. It has taken Joe and I what now seven episodes to describe it all. But I don't want you to ever lose in this some big bird's eye viewpoints. Number one, the Obama team spied on the Trump team. This is not in dispute. No one, nobody, even liberal, even the Obama team's not denying it. Susan Rice admitted to it. Samantha Powers, they admitted to it. They already admitted to it, Samantha Powers. That's not in dispute. The assertion I've been trying to make to you is that spying was illicit. It was not done for a legitimate national security or criminal reason. We have laid this out over the course of multiple episodes. One of the ways I've laid this out to show you, to be clear here, what I'm trying to prove, and again, I'm not talking down to the audience here. I'm trying to keep everybody on the straight
Starting point is 00:31:40 and narrow here. One of the points I've tried to demonstrate as a former federal agent myself, intimately familiar with the process of investigating criminals at the federal level and using the United States Attorney's Office is order matters. The Obama administration, if they were spying on Trump because they had evidence of some serious international crime or Trump's team, in fact, colluding with the Russians to overthrow an election, ladies and gentlemen, you would have mine and Joe's entire support. I don't care that Obama is a Democrat. If there was a scintilla of evidence out there, and I mean this, that the Donald Trump team
Starting point is 00:32:18 coordinated with the Russians to overthrow a U.S. election, Joe and I would be the first ones going impeached, extend them to jail. Order matters. And when I say order matters, I mean evidence, then investigation. Right? Not investigation, and then evidence.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That's not the way law enforcement works. So that's what I mean by order matters here. The problem I have with the entire Obama-Gate spying scandal Joseph is it's clear from anybody paying attention that the investigation happened only with the intention to try to fabricate evidence later for a crime that didn't exist
Starting point is 00:33:01 order matters I have some more, now the reason I'm bringing this up today, again, walking you through this slowly, is I have some other order matters issues here. I was forwarded an interesting article by a listener this weekend, and we've seen it. I've read it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm not trying to be like Mr. Noodle. I've read the article's old. It's not a new one. But he was right. Like, we don't want to lose some of the things that happened afterwards. Now here's what the order matters, right? Remember, order matters, crime investigation, not investigation, then find the crime, right? I am going to put an article in the show notes today. Please sign up for the show notes, please. We are doing, we are really working hard to get you the best quality articles out there.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And they're not, folks, here's the difference between my show notes and other aggregators. And I'll pat myself on the back. I'm just telling you, some of the stuff I'm sending you is not from today. It's from months ago, but it's applicable today. You're not going to find that on other aggregators. Other aggregators send you out today's news. They're great sites, don't get me wrong. But it's today's, this is today's events.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And today's events may be relevant to a story that happened six months ago today's show notes i have a story from months ago right yeah by the new york times sent in by a listener thank you you know who you are and he was absolutely right he's like dan remember, remember this? And I was like, boom. Booyakasha. You're right. I'm like, how did I forget this article? It'll be in the show notes today. What is the article?
Starting point is 00:34:33 You're like, stop teasing. Just get to the darn article. It's a New York Times piece about a initiative by the Obama administration post, Joe, pay attention here. This is important. post-election. Post-election. So Obama's still the president. Trump is the president-elect. They're in the transition period. gathered by the National Security Administration to share it more widely throughout the federal government
Starting point is 00:35:06 so that more entities have access to said information. Now, I will put the piece in the show. Read it. It's not long. Read this piece knowing what you know from the prior episodes that the Obama team had spied on the Trump team, and I'm telling you, they had no legal predicate to do so. The dossier was a legal front on an illicit operation using the, the legal mechanisms of the foreign intelligence surveillance court to cover
Starting point is 00:35:36 an ongoing sting operation against the Trump team. Now, now that you know that happened, why would the Obama team, Joe, just weeks from leaving office, why would they sign this memo, this initiative here, to more widely share information collected by the NSA throughout the government? Now, this is going to tie into those soundbites that I know you listened to him this morning. Folks, I'm going to make the case to you, and this should really ring your bell and never unring it, that they never ever again expected Hillary to lose. This was obvious. And when Hillary lost, they were in a panic. Order matters. They had already done this, shared this information widely throughout the government, and now had to go retroactively cover their butts and sign this document saying, oh yeah, yeah, we're just going to distribute it widely now, maybe as a means to cover an incident that had already happened. Why do that?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Just weeks from leaving office. Read the article in the show notes with that in mind. Folks, I'm just asking a question. Unfortunately, there's been a lot of inside baseball going on with a lot of conservative groups out there all trying to claim credit for who's cracking what in this case. Listen to me. And to those of you listening,
Starting point is 00:37:07 because I know some of you listen as well. You're all doing great work. Steal everything I have. I don't need any credit. You don't even have to link to anything. I'm telling you with absolute certainty, all Joe and I care about is this story getting out there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I have shared links. I have cited people. I have enclosed articles. You have something to say? Send it to me. I'll shared links. I have cited people. I have enclosed articles. I will, I will, you have something to say, send it to me. I'll put it on my email list. There are an enormous number of people who will read it, but I'm telling you something happened here. Read the New York times piece. And my guess is it was Jim Clapper who was covering his butt here and people in the Obama team realizing they'd already shared information throughout the government and they had to
Starting point is 00:37:50 put something to paper, just like the FISA warrant, even though the spying was already ongoing, to put a legal patina, a legal faux cover on an already BS ongoing operation. I'm just asking you the question, why would they do it otherwise? Why? There should be some kind of controls between collection and analysis, folks. Think about what I just told you. I understand the awesome powers of the federal government. If the federal government can collect information on anyone at any time emails phone records and it's given over to analysts to joe air quotes analyze how they see fit you're living in a police state now there doesn't have to be a wall between the two but there has to be some controls
Starting point is 00:38:39 and what were those controls joe throughout the history history of the United States before Pfizer 702 and all this other stuff? Those controls were warrants. Going to a judge and saying, we need information from this analytical pool of info. We need information on Joe Armacost because we have probable cause to believe Joe ripped a mattress tag off. Or whatever. You get my point. mattress tag off or whatever. I'm being,
Starting point is 00:39:04 you get my point, man. It wasn't a wall, but it was a choke point to prevent the government from analyzing information about innocent Americans. I'm telling you, that's what happened here. Order matters. Order matters because the document comes out,
Starting point is 00:39:33 Order matters because the document comes out putting a legal face on the sharing of information widely throughout the intelligence and law enforcement community. I'm telling you, the order came out after it was already happening. Why? Because Obama's sitting there, Joe, in December when this thing goes through, a month after losing going, holy, what the heck just happened? Now we're going to have to cover our butts. Now, remember that, I don't have it with me, but remember about a week ago, Joe played a cut of Jim Clapper, the former ODNI, Director of National Intelligence, who has access to all of this scheme, the spying on Trump. Jim Clapper says multiple times on taped interviews that are still out there.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Taped interviews that are still out there. He says multiple times there is no warrant to spy on the Trump team that he's aware of. I'm telling you this document is Jim Clapper's effort to cover his butt. To put an ex post facto legal cover on an ongoing crap operation against the Trump team that had no evidence to be started in the first place. Now, I've got some beauty sound bites for you. This is Evelyn Farkas, folks. Who is Evelyn Farkas? I'm going to play for you two sound cuts. Evelyn Farkas is a deputy assistant secretary of state involved with what country, Joe? This is going to amaze you. Joe, put on your shocked face here. Russia. There he is, Joe. Someone give Joe the He heimlich maneuver he's choking on his own saliva
Starting point is 00:41:06 right now so this is a woman in the obama administration evelyn farkas right she is the deputy assistant secretary of state in charge of russia remember what we talked about before the nsa is now saying oh no it's all good now we're going to share information we collected on people throughout all of these entities although i'm telling you they already did it here's how they did it before let's play a cut of evelyn farkas this is her just days before the election she's she's at a women's forum and she says something that's awfully curious that'll make more sense when i play the second count uh sound cut excuse me play farkas number one i think the most important thing first of all i have to say is it's not a done deal as you said and so to the americans in the audience please vote and not only vote
Starting point is 00:41:53 but get everybody to vote because i really believe we need a landslide we need an absolute repudiation of everything all of the policies that donald trump has put out there i'm not afraid to be political i'm not hiding um who i'm rooting for. And I think it's very important that we continue to press forward until Election Day and through Election Day to make sure that we have the right result. I do agree, however, with General Breedlove that even if we have the wrong result, from my perspective, America is resilient. We have a lot of presidential historians who have put forward very coherently the argument. They've given us examples of all of our horrible presidents in the past and the fact that we've endured. And we do have a strong system of checks and balances.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And actually, if Donald Trump were elected, I believe he'd be impeached pretty quickly or somebody else would have to take over government wait what joe was kind enough to pull a cut for me there we're gonna get but what what wait what did she just say this is 10 days before an election a high-ranking obama administration bureaucrat remember we're talking about the sharing of information that people who shouldn't have it. She's already calling for the impeachment of a Donald Trump and the election hasn't even happened yet. Now you have Clapper, right? I want you to play Clapper here for a minute, too, because remember, we're talking about how the Obama administration shared information they shouldn't have even been accessing on the Trump team widely throughout the government why they did it's going to make sense in a second keep in mind farkas is already calling for his impeachment he's not even elected yet and here's clapper covering his own butt play
Starting point is 00:43:35 him um let me start with the president's tweets uh yesterday um this idea that maybe president obama ordered an illegal wiretap of his offices. If something like that happened, would this be something you would be aware of? I would certainly hope so. I can't say. Obviously, I can't speak officially anymore, but I will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president the president-elect at the time or as a candidate or against his campaign I
Starting point is 00:44:10 can't speak for other title 3 authorized entities in the government or a state or local and I was just gonna say if the FBI for instance had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance would that be information you would know or not yes you would be told that I would know that if, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know? Yes. You would be told this. I would know that. If there was a FISA court order on something like this. Something like this, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And at this point, you can't confirm or deny whether that exists? I can deny it. There is no FISA court order? Not to my knowledge. Of anything at Trump Tower? No. Oh, man. not to my knowledge of anything a trump tower no oh man oh gosh i love being a federal agent i feel like joe i have never been so inspired in my life with this show um really i feel like i'm back at
Starting point is 00:44:57 my desk in the melville field office of the secret service cracking bank fraud cases folks again order matters the question we're asking now did the obama team spy on trump and then afterwards try to cover their tracks after the election the operating thesis i'm putting out there is that this nsa new new sharing technique throughout the government in december is only a means to cover for what they already did. Farkas knows before the election that Trump is going to be impeached or she says. She may have had access to this information. We're going to place up on that a second. And Clapper, who's the head of the director, the director of national intelligence, the ODNI, right?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Officers director of national intelligence. Clapper is, right? Office of Director of National Intelligence. Clapper is already covering his butt. I had to take notes on this. In that statement, keep in mind, Clapper's involved with the signing of this NSA document to share information widely,
Starting point is 00:45:55 which I think is retroactively covering the butts for what they already did. I can't repeat this enough because I don't want you to lose what I'm talking about. Think of all the out clauses and exit ramps he left himself in that one soundbite Joe played would you know? I hope so
Starting point is 00:46:12 well what if it happened? Well not when I was a part of it he says well I can't speak for other entities and he asks him again would you know? well not to my knowledge he gives himself four off ramps in there which says to me either there's only one of two scenarios either clapper's unaware of the spying and out of loyalty to obama doesn't want to throw him under the bus but he's trying to preserve his own butt. And folks, I'm not willing to write that off yet,
Starting point is 00:46:45 although it's hard to believe, yes, there's an extremely low probability that's the case, given his position, granted. So either he doesn't know, and this is happening behind his back, which I doubt, or number two, the more likely scenario is he does know, he's absolutely stunned Hillary Clinton lost the election. He now knows this is going to come out, and he's absolutely stunned Hillary Clinton lost the election he now knows this is going to come out and he's pushing Obama and everyone else we better sign some memo authorizing all this stuff because I'm going to go on the press and I'm going to say not to my knowledge well I hope so well I wasn't part of it well I can't speak for other people folks what happened here was a constitutional abomination of the highest order.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Trump was spied on. The information was shared with partners who had no business looking into it. Information they couldn't get was given to them by foreign entities based on The Guardian and CNN's own reporting on this. Constitutional rights were violated. Our Constitution was used like toilet paper. And now they are all covering their butts. Now, this second cut of Evelyn Farkas, remember in the first cut?
Starting point is 00:47:57 This is before the election, the first cut. She seems to have some information about Trump being impeached. How would she have that information? Play cut to, and a lot of this will make sense. Play for us. I was urging my former colleagues and, and frankly speaking,
Starting point is 00:48:14 the people on the Hill, it was more actually aimed, aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can get as much intelligence as you can before president Obama leaves the administration, because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left. So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, that the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the staff, the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they
Starting point is 00:48:43 would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence. So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open. And I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia. So then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were trying to also help get information to the Hill. Whoa. Folks, there is so much in that soundbite. Number one, I'm glad Joe found Clapper, because the distinction I'm trying to make here is clear.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Clapper is a career-long swamp rat, Joe. And if you're the audience ombudsman, stop me, because this is a very critical point in this he is a career-long swamp rat who is intimately familiar with the intel and law enforcement powers of the united states government jim clapper after hillary loses and trump wins knowing the spying operation that happened before, which I believe he did intimately, understands he is in a world of hurt. He knows that he was involved in a constitutional abomination and sees himself having legal liability. Now, to cover his own butt,
Starting point is 00:49:59 he asks for this recirculation of information memo to retroactively cover for what already happened. He also goes out and makes media appearances where he covers his own butt and leaves off ramps everywhere. Well, I didn't know. I hope so. I wasn't part of it. I can't speak. Don't speak.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Just like No Doubt, right? Not to my knowledge. He leaves himself off ramps everywhere. Why? Because for all of my beefs with Jim Clapper, this guy is smart. Because he's a swamp rat, Joe. And he understands the power of the swamp.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And he knows he is in deep, deep, he gets it. Contrast that with Farkas in that media appearance on MSNBC I just played for you. Who's a bureaucrat. She's a doctor. Not a doctor of medicine, a medical doctor, but a doctor of philosophy.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Specializes in Russia. Farkas is a career-long bureaucrat. So immersed in the power of D.C. but not understanding intimately the intelligence and law enforcement powers of the United States government, because that's not what she does. She's a bureaucrat. That this dope goes on MSNBC and basically gives the same explanation, but instead of providing four off-ramps like Clapper does, she provides on-ramps for everybody to look at her.
Starting point is 00:51:21 She says, hey, we had good intel on Russia. We wanted people up on capitol hill to see it um evelyn were they authorized to see that data you're talking about oh no they weren't so you basically broke the law i did jerky she has no idea because she's a bureaucrat she joe you seeing the distinction yeah i sure am and i'm sure the listeners are yes how law enforcement guys like me and intel guys like clapper although we're i think we're different obviously different people who share different ideologies we understand the awesome power of the government to turn its power on you because we wielded it farkas has no idea
Starting point is 00:52:02 she's a bureaucrat she goes on nb NBC and basically admits to her part in a constitutional abomination and thinks nothing of it. Oh, yeah, we had all this intelligence and we wanted to make sure people up on Capitol Hill saw it. Now are you seeing how this is all tying into the memo? The memo is a way to cover what's already been happening, an illegal spying operation against Trump where information is fed widely throughout the federal government
Starting point is 00:52:33 to people who have no business seeing it at all. Clapper sees that's a problem, asks for the memo to cover his butt, does TV appearances to cover his butt because he's afraid of the intelligence operation he runs because he doesn't run it anymore. While Farkas, this dopey bureaucrat has no idea. She goes
Starting point is 00:52:51 on TV because she's been so enmeshed in the swamp she doesn't even understand the power of it to turn on her. And she goes on TV and basically admits to it. Now, you know I like timing because as I always tell you, remember the names are always going to be reappear reappear let me add a little caveat to that remember the dates too
Starting point is 00:53:11 the timing of that piece joe i didn't tell you this before the show that msnbc hit by evelyn farkas where she admits to sharing information widely throughout the government on the trump team what did she say we on the Trump team. What did she say? The Trump team has no idea how we know what we know. No, we know. You spied on them. No, we absolutely know.
Starting point is 00:53:34 The date on that is critical. The date of that appearance on MSNBC is March 2nd, 2017. Why does that matter to you? Because what happens on March 4th of 2017? Donald Trump sends out the tweet from his Twitter account saying that his wires were tapped in Trump Tower. Now, I've already told you that Mike Rogers visits Trump November 17th of 2016. Doesn't tell the White House about it, Mike Rogers. Mike Rogers, who at the time,
Starting point is 00:54:12 is head of the NSA. He goes up there, and I believe, and as do many others, I'm not claiming proprietary interest in this, that Mike Rogers warns Trump on November 17th, they are listening to you. They are spying on you. And notably, they are spying on you here. Trump leaves Trump Tower November 18th, the next day for Bedminster, and the media doesn't ask a damn question about it. So one of the questions that's been outstanding is, why would Trump wait from November of 2016 to March of 2017 to send the tweet out about Trump Tower being wiretapped? March of 2017 to send the tweet out about Trump Tower being wiretapped. Folks, I'm going to suggest to you that it may have been in response to the media hoopla surrounding this March 2nd Evelyn Farkas appearance on MSNBC, where she comes out and basically openly admits that they were listening to the Trump team and sharing the information
Starting point is 00:55:02 with people who shouldn't have had access to it. That's, listen, I'm not in the guy's head. No one told me this. I'm not going to spin your wheels. It is a little bit of speculation on my part, but I'm trying to put pieces together like any investigator would using a timeline.
Starting point is 00:55:17 There had to be a reason. I'm going to suggest to you that it may be in response to this Farcus appearance, where she admits to basically, she exposes Obamacare for what it was. Does all this make sense, Joe? Yeah. I mean, the timeline, the names, they're just devastating, folks. Yeah, it's pretty clear.
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Starting point is 00:57:20 one of the things I want to get to, folks, there is a interesting story I saw in the journal today about Canadian healthcare and how it ties in things like common core, net neutrality, and ongoing themes, again, with the Democrat Party. I'm going to leave you with this because it's an important piece I want to get to tomorrow. Anything that they call common, liberals, they usually mean common and misery. Common core, net neutrality means you'll all be neutral and miserable together. I want to talk about a lawsuit going on in Canada for their single-payer healthcare. It's going to blow your mind. You're going to be like, wait, they're suing for what? This is crazy. And I'll prove to you finally that anything the government does
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