The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 644 The Swamp is Slowly Draining
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Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Producer Joe, how are you today?
Well, I'm doing well, young Daniel. Yes.
Oh, man. Do we got stuff to talk about, folks?
Hey, listen. You know, I told you.
I'm not in the predictions game. I'm not a Vegas bookie.
I'm not trying to make you all money on bets about what's going to happen and when it's going to happen, okay?
I'm just telling you that I kind of told you that these guys were going to try to get out of the FBI to beat administrative requirements to testify.
And what did we find out yesterday?
Boom.
Booyah, kasha.
And what did we find out yesterday?
Boom.
Oh, booyakasha.
That what happens, Andy McCabe, the number two, is now on terminal leave until he can get out.
Now, I'm going to explain to you why that matters in a moment.
And I'm also going to explain to you another angle to this that I think is getting lost in this entire story.
Because it's really important.
But I've got so much stuff to get through here. It's just it's just it's just crazy i mean it's just a busy news day all right today's show brought to you by
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Here we go.
Folks, on the McCabe thing.
I had said to you during a show this week last week i forgive me i can't even remember they're all blending and now remember
the show joe about the difference between administrative testimony and legal testimony
let me just explain this as to why andy mccabe the deputy director of the fbi
being now there's two different stories around that he was asked to leave and Andy McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI, being...
There's two different stories around that.
He was asked to leave, and bottom line is they removed him.
What happened is Christopher Wray, the new FBI director, went up to the Hill, Joe.
He went up to the Hill this weekend, and he read the memo about the abuses of surveillance
powers that happened under Donald Trump.
Now, folks,
I am not in any way talking down to my audience. I love you all to death. I know many of you
understand what's going on, but I'm just, for some of you who are getting lost, because I'm
getting a lot of emails, keep in mind, this entire case is about the Obama team spied on Trump,
and they're trying to cover it up. Don't ever forget that. The memo that's about to be
released documents, well, based on sources I have, and I'm pretty confident about this, documents,
Joe, how the Obama team spied on Trump. Remember, it is not in any way at all in dispute that the
Obama team spied on Trump. It's only a question of how they did it, okay? That's the only open question,
not that they did it, how they did it. The memo from what I'm hearing is apparently very disturbing and describes the way they circumvented the law to get access to Trump team communications and
emails and basically to spy on them. Now, this matters because Andrew McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI, the number two,
who Joe is leaving the FBI now, as of yesterday, Ray, the director, goes up to read the memo this
weekend. All of a sudden, Andy McCabe's out. As Joe said to me before the show,
there are no coincidences anymore in this case. There aren't. And Joe's right. There's a reason
for that, folks. Andy McCabe was involved in this entire fiasco and not just the spying on Trump disaster
here, but also the Hillary email scandal. Now, it is not irrelevant to the case here that Andy
McCabe's wife, Jill, ran for state Senate in the state of Virginia as a Democrat. There's nothing
wrong with her doing that. But she took a rather large amount of money from Terry McAuliffe, who was a known Clinton consigliere. Now, the fact that Andy McCabe did not recuse himself from the Clinton email investigation while his wife was being supported financially in her campaign by rather large sums of money by Clinton folks, frankly, is a little bit disturbing, folks. But here's the
critical story about McCabe I want you to know about. McCabe, according to multiple accounts,
has been politicking and playing both sides for a long time. Here's a pretty devastating story that
Howie Kurtz, in his new book about the media,, Harry Kurtz has a show, Media Buzz on Fox.
He has a new book out.
Gail Trotter, who Joe and I both know, she does the show a lot.
But in the book, he recounts a really troubling story.
And if this story is true, folks, it'll tell you everything you need to know about the
number two of the FBI who was involved in two, two critical investigations, Hillary's
email investigation and the salacious Trump spying scandal.
The story breaks in the New York Times
about Russian contacts
between the Trump campaign,
Trump team and Russians show, right?
Right.
It's alleged that McCabe
goes to the White House for a meeting.
After the meeting,
he pulls aside then chief of staff,
Reince Priebus.
So follow me here.
Okay. He says to Priebus. So follow me here.
He says to Priebus, according to the account in this book, this is really disturbing.
He says, you know, hey, Reince, I just want you to know the New York Times story about the Trump team in communications with Russians, that this is BS.
It's crap.
This is a nonsense story.
Joe, here's where it gets interesting, though.
It goes to show you how duplicitous, if this is true, these guys were. Prebys then, according to the accounts of this, that I believe, by the way, Prebys says to McCabe, the number two at the FBI,
you know, hey, Andy, if this is the case that this is a BS story, can someone come out publicly and
just knock this down? you know the next day what
happens well was it CNN and the other outlets they reported White House trying to you know
trying to pressure the FBI to knock down Russian contact story folks that's not what happened
that's not what happened McCabe according to accounts, approaches Priebus first. Now, if these accounts true and McCabe's the leaker, then think about what's happening here.
He could have walked into Priebus, told Priebus his story, knowing Priebus was going to say to him,
hey, well, if it's not true and you're telling me it's not true, then what's the problem with coming out publicly and saying, hey, we're not investigating.
This is not a story is not, in fact, true.
The next day, what happens?
The story comes out.
White House trying to pressure McCabe to make story go away to the FBI.
Folks, this is what's been going on with this guy the whole time.
And Sarah Carter broke an incredible story last night, too, on this.
That if true, we're going to know two things.
That collusion did happen.
But then I'm going to get to that in a second.
But the collusion was actually between the Democrats and the Russians.
And we're going to know obstruction of justice did happen,
but it happened at the upper level management of the FBI.
Now what happened,
Joe Andrew McCabe,
it's alleged the FBI fills out a report called the three Oh two after an
interview.
Now we didn't have to do this in the secret service.
Um,
if you,
if I interviewed you, Joe for Jay walking, um, and I was a cop and, 302 after an interview now we didn't have to do this in the secret service um if you if i
interviewed you joe for jaywalking um and i was a cop and and i want to put you in jail i can
interview you and we would put notes on a memorandum of report but there was no formal
interview form you know we just take notes on a piece of you know loose leaf paper or whatever
the fbi has a form for this called the 302 sarah carter dropped the bombshell last night that andy mccabe
may have asked fbi agents who were engaged in critical interviews in these cases to change
302s yeah that's things show if i interview you and you tell me i did this this and this
interviews now over joe yeah i go back with the 302 report saying joe armacost said this this and this. Interview's now over, Joe. I go back with the 302 report saying Joe Armacost
said this, this and this. And someone tells me, no, no, you're going to write this, this and that
instead. Folks, this is a really, really big deal. From what I'm hearing, the information in the
memo about McCabe and Rosenstein both is damning. He's in a lot of trouble. So now, getting back quickly to why this matters on the,
I didn't lose where I was.
I just wanted to set that up
so you understand the complexities of the story.
I had explained to you a week ago,
having been a federal agent,
that there are,
if you're a federal agent or a federal employee,
and I think you were involved in a criminal matter joke,
there are basically two ways to get you to talk.
Now, keep in mind, you always have your constitutional right to plead the fifth, meaning when I say plead the fifth, I got some emails.
Some people didn't know what that meant.
The Fifth Amendment prevents the government from coercing you into testifying against yourself.
You're protected against what they call self-incrimination. So if I want to arrest Joe for jaywalking and I asked Joe in an interview, did you jaywalk? And Joe says,
hey, go pound sand. I'm not talking to you. I cannot force Joe to talk. Joe has a Fifth Amendment
right, no matter what, to not speak anywhere in the Constitution of the United States and anywhere
in the world if interviewed by someone from the United States and the U.S. justice system. He is
a U.S. citizen. He is afforded those constitutional rights
by this wonderful, amazing document
that I love so much, right?
If you are an employee of the federal government, however,
you still have that right,
but they're going to fire your caboose in a heartbeat
if you don't talk.
You see where I'm going with this show?
Yeah, sure do.
This is important.
You understand this distinction, folks.
I described it the other day.
Again, I'm not trying to repeat shows,
but there's so much going on
that if I don't backtrack a bit,
none of this will make sense.
That Andy McCabe is getting out now is critical.
He's getting out now because he is not eligible, Joe,
for his retirement and his pension for five more weeks.
Five more weeks from now.
Why does that five weeks matter because if andy mccabe
was involved in what i just told you he people are alleging he was involved in the changing of 302s
the manipulation of an investigation to target donald trump to circumvent the constitution if
he was involved in this stuff that a lot of people strongly believe he was a central figure in, Joe, there may
be criminal liability here.
Now, keep in mind, in order for McCabe to get his pension and retirements, play the
game with me, folks, he has to make it five more weeks.
He's sprinting to the finish line.
Why, Joe?
Because when he retires in five weeks and
he gets his pension and his benefits and all that stuff, the administrative procedures of the FBI
largely, not totally, but largely don't apply anymore. And what do I mean by that? Again,
here's the first track. The first track to make Andy McCabe talk would be the criminal track.
Andy, we're going to bring you in for a criminal interview, which he's likely to say if he's smart, folks,
he's going to say,
you see what I'm doing, Joe?
He's going to give them the double-barreled middle finger
and go talk to my lawyer.
While he's still an employee of the FBI,
there's another track.
It's the administrative one.
They could say, hey, Andy,
you can have your lawyer present,
but you're an employee of the FBI.
If you did something on FBI time and your role is the number two that was untoward or illegal, you're going to talk to us.
Or if you exercise your Fifth Amendment rights, say, I don't want to talk.
We can say, all right, Andy, have a nice day, pal.
You're fired.
Now, keep in mind, this is from what I know of them.
They're not poor.
They're upper middle class, probably a little bit wealthy.
But this is not, you know, these people aren't on the Forbes 100 list.
He worked his entire life for this pension thinking he was going to get it.
Now, keep in mind, I'm not saying, this guy's not a sympathetic figure.
Don't take my words the wrong way.
I'm just trying to explain to you the financial incentive.
Folks, this guy is racing to the exits.
So what does he do?
Brilliant.
This is a smart move. Again, I don't mean that qualitatively does he do? Brilliant. This is a smart move.
Again, I don't mean that qualitatively like a good move, but it was a smart move.
He realizes yesterday he's in trouble because Ray, Christopher Ray, the director, read the memo.
Remember, Andy McCabe's the number two with the FBI.
He knows all of what happened here.
All of what I told you about in the spying.
He needs to retain his pension, but he can't quit.
If he quits, he forfeits it.
He's got five weeks to go.
But while he's here, Joe, I'm not losing you, right?
You're good, man.
We're good?
Okay, good.
During this five weeks, he is subjected to the FBI's administrative rules.
Hey, Andy, you're going to talk or we're going to fire you.
He can't lose his pension.
So what does he do this is he goes on terminal leave that's a real term by the way that's not
made up i said terminal leave and someone tweeted me like i was making a threat that no that's what
it's called it's called terminal leave folks what people do in federal agencies and sometimes in law
enforcement agencies local state as well is if you have accumulated sick leave you know joe whatever you have a month of sick leave or something like that say you're
going to retire in a month you say well i'll retire a month from now and i'm just going to
stay on sick leave or annual leave until then it's it's not all that common most people just
cash it out at the end but it does happen mccabe had enough accumulated time that he put himself
on terminal leave now joe's shaking his head but i
know he's got a question i know most of you have a question too what you're probably thinking is
okay great he's on terminal leave but he's still subjected to administrative rules of the fbi he's
still unemployed yes i was thinking yeah as yoga guy would say yes yes do it yes right
he is still subjected to the,
in other words, even though he's on leave,
he can say, the FBI can say to him,
hey, Andy, you are going to go up to Capitol Hill
and your position is the FBI number two
and you're damn well going to talk about what happened to you
or you're going to be fired, okay?
But think about it, him being on leave,
now he has no requirement to be available for work.
So all I'm telling you now is don't be surprised if Andy McCabe shows up on a vacation in like the Cayman Islands.
Oh, hey, I don't know, man.
I just can't get up there.
I don't know what happened, Joe.
I can't get up to the hill.
I'm in the Caymans and this puddle jumper plane just doesn't work.
I don't know how we're going to get in there.
But do you understand, Orma Cost, how the distinction between administrative procedures and criminal procedures matter here?
Absolutely.
And just to sum it up, not to keep repeating, but it's important you understand this.
This was a very smart move he did.
Because a lot of you have emailed me.
Why doesn't McCabe just resign if he's guilty
and just plead the fifth and he's fine? Well, he's not fine, but he doesn't have to testify
against himself because he can't. He needs his pension. He is not a multi-billionaire.
He needs his pension. He shouldn't get it, but he needs it. He has to ride out these five weeks.
But he needs it.
He has to ride out these five weeks.
Long story short, bullet point takeaway.
This five weeks is critical.
You have five weeks to get Andy McCabe to talk about his role in both the email scandal and the Trump spying scandal, Obamagate.
If you don't hit him in that five weeks, he may talk later on. I mean,
he's not memory just because you have the right not to self-incriminate doesn't mean he's not
going to people testify all the time to try to clear their own names. I'm just telling you,
once this five week window is up, you are running on fumes because McCabe, in my humble opinion,
folks is going to say, you know what? Talk to my lawyer. Not interested. Thank you. Have a nice day.
The countdown is on.
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Okay.
A couple more stories I wanted to get to.
I want to tie something in a bit because some people are getting a little lost.
And I've gotten a few emails from people like, listen, love it.
I've been following this now for the last 10 days.
But I think you need to go back a bit and explain a few things because I'm starting to get lost in all the details.
Remember what I told you all i am trying to explain to you is that the obama team spied on
trump how they did it is all is the only subject of inquiry right now everybody acknowledges they
spied on trump how they did it is what's controversial. Because remember, Joe, just to be clear on this, and I said this on Fox this morning, spying on Americans through legal avenues is not illegal.
If I suspect Joe of a jaywalking conspiracy and I get a title three wire tap on Joe's phone to
listen to him talk to his friends about this big jaywalking group they're going to put together,
it's perfectly legal to do that.
We have criminal investigations in the country.
We don't have general warrants.
You know what?
Let me explain that for a second.
This is my beef with this case.
One of the major beefs we had with the crown when we fought the revolution was the application of general warrants.
What were general warrants?
General warrants were basically like the king saying,
let's investigate Joe. For what? I don't know. Something. What were general warrants? General warrants were basically like the king saying, let's investigate Joe.
For what?
I don't know, something.
Like a general warrant.
In the United States,
when you swear to a search warrant, Joe,
or when you swear to a Title III warrant,
you have to be darn specific
about what you're saying.
And you personally, Joe Armacost,
Agent Joe Armacost,
you have to raise your right hand
in front of a judge
and swear that what you're telling
is the truth.
Or that the information you had was verified. if it turns out later to be false but you went
through appropriate channels you're fine as you know say you verified it through four or five
different sources and later on it turns out they were all lying in a conspiracy to you you're fine
but basically we don't do general warrants we do specific warrants where you have to come up and
you have to say hey this is you know this is where we're going with this, right?
This is where we're doing.
But keep in mind, this entire scandal is about Trump being spied on by information FBI agents swore to.
That was not, in fact, true.
Now, I want to go back and explain something a bit.
This is where we rewind the tape a bit to
the beginning. The first show we did on this, that's going crazy on our platform, by the way,
it's got mega downloads, where we explain the whole thing from an umbrella view. And I think
it's show 628, if I remember correctly. It's 628 show? That's the one we'd spotlighted on SoundCloud.
Go listen to that, because it explains the gen Genesis, this whole thing, and it ties in the bigger picture.
But one of the things I don't want you to forget is the start of this entire collusion narrative.
And folks, I'm so sorry, but I'm really, this means a lot to me. And I really don't want to
do you a disservice by confusing any of you. The collusion narrative was always fake.
You get that, right?
The collusion narrative was always a cover to distract people from what?
From what I told you in the beginning mattered.
Obama spied on Trump.
They need a story to cover for this okay just in case trump wins so
they can cover their tracks as after trump wins the election hillary's team they understand that
their emails were stolen they were not hacked they were stolen okay so i wrote this in an email. Emails are taken.
Hillary's emails, the DNC emails, and Potesta's emails.
They know they spied on Trump.
It's awfully convenient then to say what?
Well, who hacked?
And I'm using air quotes here, folks.
Who hacked our emails?
The Russians did it.
And by the way, who was working with the Russians?
Donald Trump.
Folks, keep in mind, none of that is true.
Do you understand? None of that was true. The email system at the DNC, it is still in dispute
that it was even hacked at all. It may have, in fact, been an insider who stole the emails. We
know Podesta was the victim of a phishing scam. The Democrats made up the hacking narrative the entire time.
The hacking narrative is not true.
They then go on to say, well, the Russians hacked the email.
Now, remember, this is all designed to cover and get the collusion narrative going.
So what does it do, Joe?
Look, squirrel collusion.
And it takes the eye off the story that is as i've now said 10 times
obama spied on trump and they had to cover it so they start talking about collusion what comes
first than the collusion this is important folks do listen do not forget what i'm about to tell you
it'll make this entire thing make sense we got hacked this is what the dems are telling their
focus group how do we get we're gonna we're gonna tell. We got hacked. This is what the Dems are telling their focus
group. We're going to tell everybody we got hacked. Tell everyone the Russians did it.
And I've got an idea. Since we spied on Trump during the campaign, let's start putting a
narrative out there that Trump, quote, colluded with the Russians, and it'll make it look like
they did this to alter the election and screw over the election. We didn't really lose to Trump.
I thought they thought, this will be great.
The media will play along with us.
We'll have this guy impeached in no time.
Don't you worry about it.
Now, how did this start?
This is important.
There was a company that came in, Joe, to analyze the DNC computers, the DNC computers
to determine if, Joe, they were air quotes here, hacked, right?
Who is that company?
You may say company wasn't at the FBI.
Surely, Joe, if the DNC computers were hacked in an effort to throw an election by the Russians, the FBI would get it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
In my best Gollum voice, you would be absolutely wrong.
Hold on.
I'm going to get a drink of water here.
You would be absolutely wrong. Hold on, let me get a drink of water here. You would be absolutely incorrect. Who came in to analyze the DNC computers after they were
air quotes hacked? CrowdStrike. Wow. Isn't that interesting? CrowdStrike. Who's CrowdStrike and
who paid CrowdStrike? Well, let me read you a line by an Andy McCarthy piece, which will be in the show notes at
Bongino.com today. I know I say it every day, but do not miss the show notes. This is a must-read
piece. It's an older piece. Again, I'll put some current news in there as I always do,
but this is an older piece. But you can't understand the scandal if you don't understand
what's in this piece. This is the end of the Andy McCarthy piece about CrowdStrike. It says, but it certainly is interesting that we are once again in a case
involving alleged Russian espionage, reviewing a situation in which the FBI relied on a contractor,
i.e. CrowdStrike, retained by the DNCs and the Clinton campaign's lawyers at Perkins Coie.
Now, if you listen to yesterday's show and you remember the names, you're like, wait, wait.
What are you saying, Dan?
CrowdStrike was a contractor paid to come in to look at the DNC, Joe, air quotes, hack.
No one even knows that the DNC was in fact hacked.
But remember, they're telling you the Russians did it.
The FBI never analyzes these DNC computers,
which in an incident like that, Joe,
can we both agree?
If the Russians hacked a major party,
in an American presidential election,
a major party's web servers,
that this would be an FBI investigation?
Yeah.
I'm telling you,
and I'm looking you in the eyes right now, telling you the FBI never
came in and did this.
They never analyzed the computers.
Who comes in?
A private contractor paid by Perkins Coie.
Who was also paying Perkins Coie?
Thank you for everyone who corrected the pronunciation of that, by the way.
I really didn't care that much, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
Perkins Coie. I just didn't. Yeah. I mean, that's why I didn't look up how it's
pronounced. Perkins Coie are the ones that paid Fusion GPS to go gather the dossier on Donald
Trump. Well, who was paying Perkins Coie? Oh, the Clinton campaign and the DNC. And if you listen
to yesterday's show, oh, by the way, who else was paying Perkins Coie $972,000 in April of 2016?
Oh, Obama for America?
Obama's campaign arm?
What?
Damn right, Spidey.
What is...
Folks.
Please understand what's going on here.
Obama spied on Trump.
The Democrats know Obama spied on trump did democrats know obama spied on trump they have to run
interference and run a distraction and use their media buddies to run an alternate narrative to
get trump out of office quickly hoping whoever's next mike pence or someone will move on and let
this thing go and they invent a counter narrative based entirely on a narrative created by a private contractor working for the DNC and Hillary who comes in to analyze the hack and says conveniently, Joe, oh, the Russians did it.
Folks.
Joe, did you follow what I just said?
Yeah, I did.
I'm kind of like ready to puke.
You should be.
Obama spied on Trump.
He spied on Trump using the mechanisms in the FBI,
in the management of the FBI, not the rank and file guys.
I can't say that enough.
I love these men and women.
They do a great job.
And from what I'm hearing from the inside,
a lot of them are pretty darn pissed off about what happened
at their fine agency, and they should be.
And I'm with you guys.
I want you to know that.
But we should all be angry at these managers.
What they did is they circumvented the probable cause requirements for spying on an American.
Folks, as I said yesterday, you can spy on an American legally one of two ways, okay?
You can put forth enough information
to go in front of a judge and swear to him.
Sorry if I forgot this before.
I apologize.
I've got so much going on in my head right now.
You can swear to a criminal warrant
that I have probable cause that Joe was jaywalking,
or you can swear to a FISA warrant
that I have probable cause Joe was acting
on behalf of a foreign agent in violation of U.S. law.
FISA is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
So that's an intelligence-based warrant.
The other one's a criminal warrant.
Either way, you need probable cause.
I said this on Fox this morning.
Don't forget this.
There was no probable cause.
None.
They were spying on them basically, and this is why I brought up the general warrant,
using what was essentially,
Joe,
a general warrant.
That's where I'm,
sorry if I get it,
because there's so much going on.
I'm like,
I'm really trying to keep it all on track,
because I was so excited about doing today's show.
I was going to tape it last night.
I texted Joe.
We escaped the crown to get away from general warrants.
We do them specifically now.
We are investigating this crime about Joe Armacostost who did this on this date folks do you understand
none of this happened with donald trump they in essence circumvented the constitution and
issued a general warrant that said go get donald trump and his team they circumvented all of these
circuit breakers the circuit breakers the the FISA court's a circuit breaker.
You have to produce evidence.
They did, and how did they produce the evidence?
Not by doing their own investigation,
by basically subcontracting out the FBI to contractors,
to private contractors.
Here's what I mean,
and this is how this is all going to tie in. Here's what I mean. And this is how this is going to, this is how it's all going to tie in.
The FBI needs probable cause
to swear to a warrant
to spy on the Trump team.
They don't have probable cause,
but they know the Clinton campaign
can find some,
but they can't tell anybody
they're working for the Clinton campaign.
So the Clinton campaign
hires a law firm where they can kind of launder the Clinton campaign. So the Clinton campaign hires a law firm
where they can kind of launder the money through.
The law firm is Perkins Coie,
who they pay for legal services.
Perkins Coie, remember now,
this is a general warrant.
Go get Trump and go find information.
Perkins Coie hires Fusion GPS,
who hires Christopher Steele.
They put together this dossier, which is
exclusively under the control of the Clintons. The Clintons use the dossier and get it to the FBI.
At the same time, they are getting this information about Trump to the FBI on a basically go-get-Trump
warrant. Keep in mind, folks, these are not fbi agents these are private contractors basically hijacking the
u.s government at the same time that channel's going on joseph the obama of campaign arm ofa
is paying the same law firm ginning up information for a go get trump warrant they're paying them
972 000 for legal services At the very same time,
Obama and Hillary are emailing each other
on Hillary's email account.
And at the same time,
in the same time period in question here,
that the very same law firm
is paying a company called CrowdStrike
to go into the DNC's office.
Joe, do a forensic analysis on the air quotes hack. And what does CrowdStrike to go into the DNC's office, Joe, do a forensic analysis
on the air quotes hack.
And what does CrowdStrike find out?
The Russians did it.
Keep in mind, nobody can verify this.
And even CrowdStrike has had to walk back the fact that the Russians, quote, did the
hack.
Do you see what's going on here, folks?
This law firm and read the McCarthy piece of my show.
He walks through in a little bit more detail the relationship between Perkins Coie and
CrowdStrike.
And I'll also put a zero hedge piece in there, by the way, thanks to a good catch by Donna.
She and to Judy.
Thank I got a lot of like great researchers out there working overtime in this thing. I'm getting so much information. It's hard for me to Judy. I got a lot of great researchers out there working overtime on this thing.
I'm getting so much information,
it's hard for me to like,
really, I get about 1,000 emails a day now.
Folks,
they needed to find Trump.
They had a general go-get-Trump warrant,
but they could not find anything legal.
So for them to swear to it,
they had to go find someone to go get information
on Trump. You may say, well, why not just go get it yourselves? Because folks, you can't go get it
yourselves. Listen to what I'm telling you. You're not allowed a general warrant in the United States.
You can't just as a secret service agent go in front of a judge and say, I need a warrant to go
listen in on the phone calls of Joe Armacost.
Why?
Because I think he's doing something wrong.
It doesn't work that way.
But Christopher Steele, who was working for Fusion, who's a political operative now, and
Perkins Coie that's hiring them, these people are not subjected to any of those rules.
Joe, they're not federal agents.
They can go out and say, I saw Donald Trump transform into a werewolf one night on a full moon.
They don't have to swear to that in court.
But the Bureau can say,
hey, we heard a guy say that they saw once Donald Trump transform into a werewolf.
Folks, big trouble going on here.
Does that make sense, Joe?
Oh, yeah.
So just let me rewind the tape a little bit and just backtrack where we're going.
If you listen to 628, I lay out in a little more detail how the genesis of this collusion narrative was only an effort to distract from Obama spying on Trump and the fact that, holy crap, we just lost the election.
Now they're going to find out about this.
They needed a way to get this guy out of office.
A convenient narrative was,
let's say the Russians hacked their emails at the DNC.
What's the problem, Joseph?
The Russians didn't hack the emails at the DNC.
So when the FBI says,
hey, we'd like to get involved
and look at those DNC servers
in any normal investigation, Joe,
they'd say, yeah, of course, come on in here.
That's not what the DNC said.
The DNC said, no thanks.
They gave them the Italian go beat it.
You know what, Joe?
So what I do is, no thanks, we're good.
We're going to bring in our own guys.
Oh, who?
CrowdStrike.
Who's paid for by who?
Perkins Coie.
Who paid for what?
Oh, the dossier?
And we're also paid by Obama for America?
Yeah, let's bring them in. And what do they find? Just like magic, they find, look, the Russians
hacked it. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. What comes next? Not only did the Russians hack our emails,
but Trump colluded with them. We got them. The problem is none of it's true.
None of it's true. The house of cards is coming down.
And folks, McCabe was the number two during all of this.
Now you're wondering why McCabe wants to beat that.
He has five weeks, folks.
The countdown is on.
Get him up there right now before he goes to the Cayman Islands or Ibiza.
He'll be like that song, I took a pill in Ibiza.
He'll be gone and you will never see this guy again.
Get him up on the hill now.
Because he can still plead the fifth, but you can fire his caboose.
He is not entitled to a pension if he abused our system of government,
our constitutional republic to spy on a free American citizen.
Just because Donald Trump was running for president does not mean he's not entitled to constitutional rights, folks.
That's the most beautiful part about this country is the lowest criminal you can find a serial killer, child molester.
Even he or she still has constitutional protections in this wonderful country.
So does the most powerful man on earth.
He is an American citizen.
His Fourth Amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure,
the stealing of his memos, his emails, his conversations, his team's emails.
Folks, what happened there was an international, intergalactic disgrace
of the highest order and was total BS.
McCabe should not be allowed to walk out the door without at a minimum administratively being forced to testify about what happened.
And I want to know, who told you the Russians hacked that email system?
CrowdStrike?
Did you realize CrowdStrike was being paid by Perkins Coie?
Did you realize Perkins Coie was also paying Christopher Steele
for the dossier that Clinton's controlled?
They fed to you to swear to in front of a FISA court.
Did you realize any of this?
You were FBI agents.
You were the number two.
Now, that leads to my wrap-up on this
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There are two procedures right now.
Criminal, where he can plead the fifth, say, I'm not going to self-incriminate.
I'm not saying squat.
That's fine.
That's open him at all times.
But while he's still an employee of the FBI, he can absolutely be compelled to testify to his role in this. And if he doesn't see you, buddy, you're out. Bottom line, we have five
weeks, five weeks in five weeks, he is going to retire and we are finished. We will not have that
administrative hammer to get this guy with. And if he had a role in this, we need to know about it.
I say that because Andy McCabe was the number two at the fbi while
an abomination of justice happened through a law firm that was paid to invent a fake collusion
narrative at the same time the law firm was paying fusion gps to generate fake russian provided
intelligence on Donald Trump.
Obama spied on Trump.
They need a counter-narrative.
The counter-narrative was always going to be the Russians hacked us and Donald Trump colluded.
The problem is none of it's true.
This law firm was basically a conduit between Obama for America, their campaign arm, the DNC, Hillary, and it's now clear as day that the FBI was using information from a company they paid to go and look at the DNC stuff.
Why?
Because the FBI never insisted on looking at the DNC servers.
They just accepted the CrowdStrike finding that the Russians hacked it.
CrowdStrike was paid for by the same law firm, folks.
Now, why is all of this important?
Chuck Grassley has been all over this.
Chuck Grassley is a Republican senator who has been on this for a long time.
And a little while back, I did a show where I said, hey, one of the best moves anyone's done in this case, very strategically sound on the Republican side show, was when Grassley made a criminal referral for Christopher Steele to the FBI.
Now, I said to you, yes, yes, yes.
We love that guy.
He's our favorite.
I was talking about him this morning.
I was talking about my favorite movies.
Yeah, I love that guy.
Do it.
Yes.
Couples retreat guy grasley sends a criminal
referral to the fbi for christopher steel for false statements why does any of this matter
because folks now people are starting to get wind now that the memo is coming out
if the fbi relied on the statements of Christopher Steele, this former MI6 agent, Joe, if I'm
confusing anyone, Joe, this is your job here.
You have to stop me.
I will.
Christopher Steele, again, I'm not trying to repeat myself.
I just don't want to lose anyone.
Christopher Steele's the MI6 agent working for Fusion GPS, paid for by Perkins Coie,
this law firm that is being paid by Hillary Clinton.
Bottom line, Hillary, through multiple vehicles,
is paying this guy Christopher Steele
to go gin up bad information on Trump
from fake Russian intelligence sources, right?
Steele is working with the FBI.
This is a setup on Donald Trump the whole time.
They're spying on Trump.
It's a sting operation on him the entire time.
All these people are approaching the whole time. They're spying on Trump. It's a sting operation on him the entire time. All these people
are approaching the Trump team.
Steele and Fusion GPS are
somehow connected to these three players
in this that we have
and that we've covered in past shows.
People are approaching the Trump team. It's not by
accident. They're trying to set them up.
They're constantly coming to Joe's house and saying,
you want to rob a bank? You want to rob a bank? You want to enter rating
for the Trump team to bite?
Steele is working with the FBI and Fusion GPS, who Steele's working for, has contacts with these people knocking on Joe's door all the time.
Just like these people who are approaching the Trump team.
Okay.
Tracking?
Yep.
Yep.
For Steele to be working with the FBI and for an FBI agent, Joe, to raise his right hand in court and swear that this, and I said this on Fox this morning, I meant that using Steele as a source, there's nothing wrong with that.
FBI agents, Secret Service agents, DEA agents use sources all the time.
Sure.
But in order to use a source, folks, this is critical.
Don't miss this you have to either independently verify his
information or you have to prove that he's been a reliable source in the past now why this is
controversial and why grasley referred steel to the fbi to investigate basically said investigate
this guy which would in a genius move is if you have a
source on a criminal case at the federal level providing you information you damn well better
tell them if you're working for a political campaign in the media at the same time because
joe you think that may change a judge's opinion he's scratching his face there if i go to court
right joe and i say hey listen i'm going to testify against my neighbor
joe armacost for jaywalking right and i'm just the neighbor that information if it's verified
is credible and an fbi agent can use it to prosecute joe for jaywalking yeah but if i walk
into the fbi office and don't disclose to the fbi that matter of fact, I have a major league lawsuit against Joe
for whatever.
And not only that,
we don't like each other.
And not only that,
I'm running for office
and Joe's going to oppose me
in six months.
Do you think the judge
may look at that information
just a tad bit different?
I think that's a fair bet.
Wouldn't you say, Armacost?
Yeah.
Yeah, you'd be right.
All right.
Now,
what's the Graslie referral have to do with?
Folks, when Steele was working with the FBI, someone at the FBI, when they were testifying to the warrant show, some FBI agent or DOJ attorney in conjunction with them, or an FBI attorney, when they walked up in front
of the FISA judge, had to swear on their honor, their job, their credibility, everything,
that the information they were giving is true.
Do you think, Joe, this is a serious question, that the FBI agent told the FISA judge, oh,
and by the way, the guy we got this information from is being paid by the Hillary campaign and the Obama campaign.
You think that happened?
Probably not, Dan.
Yeah, you would be right, Joe.
Joe, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Joe's two for two today.
I would say it definitely didn't happen.
So where am I going with this?
This is what's starting to break now.
And I think there may be some of this in the FISA memo.
Grasley knows this.
So Grasley is saying, okay, one of you is lying.
Because Steele was talking to the press and working for the Clintons.
In other words, Joe, the FBI either knew this and lied in front of the FISA judge.
Or Steele lied to the FBI and didn't tell them he was working for Hillary
and working for the media.
You see, both of those stories can't be true.
Do you see what I'm talking about?
If Steele walked in and said, I'm working for Hillary and I'm talking to the media,
which he was, Steele and, well, maybe not Steele personally, but well, yes, he was part
of it.
They were briefing people in the media on political research data, okay?
part of it they were briefing people in the media on political research data okay if steel said that to the fbi the fbi should have immediately done what joe
pulled chocks right yeah that was a secret service term pull the chocks we gotta go
the fbi should have said hey brother um we don't start criminal cases on general warrants
based on political operation opposition researchers which
you are walking into her office and dogging out other political candidates i'm sorry oh hell no
oh hell no is right it's not gonna happen you are never gonna get a criminal case like that
now grasley's point and this is what i think so because i'm giving you a lot of hypotheticals
here's what i think really happened and what I think Grassley knows.
Grassley knows that the FBI knew that.
And Grassley is putting the FBI now on the spot by saying, well, you went in front of a judge and you didn't say that Steele was talking to the media and was working for the Clinton thing, and you pretended the information was still legit.
So one of you is lying.
So listen, either you admit to lying,
or you prosecute Christopher Steele for lying to you and making false statements.
You see my point, Joe?
And folks, just so you know what I think really happened,
they can't prosecute Steele for false statements
because he told them they were working for Hillary and the media,
and they still took his information.
Ruh-roh.
Ruh-roh.
Sure he.
Now you see?
Now do you see why the McCabe resignation yesterday, folks,
is such a big deal?
Again, I'm trying to tie all of this together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
McCabe's the number two at the Bureau.
He knows all of this.
He knows about CrowdStrike.
He knows the FBI didn't see the DNC computers.
He knows CrowdStrike analyzed the DNC computers.
He knows CrowdStrike's paid by a law firm
that's working with the Obama campaign arm in Hillary.
He knows that the FBI is going to accept
CrowdStrike's opinion that the Russians hacked the DNC servers, even though they didn't.
McCabe also knows that Steele is working for the same law firm that's paying CrowdStrike, the same law firm working for Hillary and being paid by the Obama campaign arm.
He also knows that that same operative, Steele, working for the same people involved in the fake Russian hack narrative
and the collusion narrative,
he also knows this guy's talking to the media.
He knows this guy's being paid by Hillary.
And they let the FBI swear to it anyway in court.
Folks, this thing is just beginning.
And as I said to you during yesterday's show,
all right, I'm a little, I'm always,
when I speculate, I want to tell you,
I'm speculating here,
but I've been pointed in this direction
by a previously reliable person
who has very little vested interest in this,
that those 30,000 Hillary emails aren't missing. And that may be the keys to the kingdom.
Because remember, if Obama's campaign arm is paying this law firm, Hillary's paying this law
firm. The law firm also pays CrowdStrike to go create a fake Russian hacking narrative.
At the same time,
they're trying to divert attention from the fact that they were spying on Trump. We got a lot of
problems. Now, let me add one more quick wrinkle to this. You may say, okay, he was number two.
Who was number one? Well, it was Jim Comey. Comey has insisted repeatedly that he was not detailing.
Let me just be fair on this.
He's been unclear, let's just say,
about how briefed in,
I'm trying to be very delicate in my words,
how briefed in Obama was on this.
In other words, trying to detach Obama
from the Obamagate spying scandal.
But folks, there are supposedly texts out there, this is amazing, we'll see it, but there are supposedly texts out there.
This is amazing.
We'll see it.
But there are supposedly texts out there about Comey updating Obama on a big investigation repeatedly.
So folks, if those texts are in fact what we think they are, you have a conspiracy of it's again it's not a theory
if it's actually happening you have a conspiracy at the highest levels of the united states
government to violate the constitutional rights of donald j trump while he was running for president
and a cover-up later on that is equally as devastating. Because remember, these are two separate stories, Joe.
Obama spied on Trump.
The cover-up later was Russian collusion.
The genesis of Russian collusion was the CrowdStrike narrative that the Russians hacked the DNC and we're going to blame Trump for it.
Don't forget that.
All right.
A couple more things, folks.
Hey, some good news.
On the economic front, we had a quarter of – this is important, because the Democrats are jumping all over this, by the way.
They're saying now, oh, well, look, the third quarter wasn't 3%.
Remember, one of the statistics I think that is absolutely damning for the Obama administration
and the economy and indicates the absolute failure of Obamanomics, Joe, is the fact that
Obama is the first president in United States history to never reach annualized.
This is important, folks.
I get a lot of emails on this, not quarterly, annualized 3% growth.
In other words, Obama is the only president in US history to never reach one year of 3%
annualized growth.
That's pretty devastating.
Matter of fact, when you measure real GDP growth on average, Obama's fourth from the bottom. I think he beats out like Herbert Hoover and Andrew Johnson. I forget the other one. But Obama's had a really awful economic record. But it's important because the Democrats are now trying to talk down the economy because what happened?
You know, Joe, at least in a chronological year, of course, that's four quarters, three months each, not a big deal.
So we had two in a row of 3%. The Obama team is panicking because they knew if we get two more of 3% that what would have happened.
So Obama in eight years never hit annualized growth of 3% one time.
Trump's first year in office, he averages 3%.
It would be so obvious that Obama's economy was garbage
that it would be hard to run from.
So the Democrats are now celebrating the fact, Joe,
that we had the third quarter of Trump's presidency was 2.6.
And of course, because they want to talk down the economy.
See where I'm going with this?
3-3.
If they had another three, they're going to get really nervous
because one more, they're going to be like,
oh my gosh, we never had 3% one time over a year. Trump's first year in office, bam. Don't sweat it. Here's why I'm
telling you not to sweat it. Number one, that number is going to be revised. It's going to be
revised about four or five times. And I'm leaning 80, 90%. That number is going to be revised above
three. Just trust me on this one. The data there is strong. Secondly,
one of the components of that number, we measure GDP by this formula. Is it G plus C plus I plus
X minus M? Government spending, consumption, investment, exports minus imports. The formula
is complex, but one of the components of that formula that is absolutely critical is the I,
investment.
Why does investment matter?
Very simply,
because if I want to produce more stuff,
that's how we measure growth and productivity,
producing stuff,
right?
Medicine,
cars.
That's how we're economically wealthy.
We have a lot of stuff.
We have to produce stuff.
To produce stuff,
we have to invest.
Investment in this quarter,
the 2.6 quarter,
Joe,
was through the roof.
We lost a little bit on the imports versus exports, but investment, you following me?
The I component of GDP in this quarter was astronomically high.
I'm telling you that because even if this quarter is not 3%, which I think it's going
to be, if it's not revised up and stays at 2.6%, that investment, Joe, is going to kick
in soon.
Sooner or later, there's going to be a whole lot more pet rocks being produced computers iphones i'm looking around my office here uh avion water i don't even drink avion i'm in a
an office and i don't think they're with the show today but do you understand what i'm saying that
this is going to lead to, in my humble opinion,
more explosive growth over the coming quarters.
So even if this isn't revised and we get a quarter of, say, 4% or 3.9%, we can still get that year, that first year average of 3%,
which is going to decimate the Obama team
because they will have nowhere to run.
Eight years, he couldn't do one year of 3%.
Trump's first year in office, boom, done like that.
Does that make sense, Joe?
Oh, yeah.
It's going to take a little while to realize the advantages of the investment.
Exactly.
As always, Joe does a good job in just saying it plainly.
Sometimes I get a little circuitous because I'm trying to explain to you the details,
but that's obviously how averages work.
If you have four quarters and you have 1, 1, two, and 22, it's going to average above three.
Now, Trump had three, three, 2.6, but that investment number is key.
Because once that investment kicks in and those factories start pumping out computers and pet rocks and medicine products, productivity is going to go through the roof.
So these Obama people talking down the economy, this is my warning.
Be very careful because you're about to have a – I mean, you want to talk about scrambled eggs on your face? I would
wait until these quarters before you open your traps again. All right, folks, thanks again for
tuning in. Please, please go to the show notes today. There's a zero hedge piece, a national
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