The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 670 The Truth Is Finally Coming Out

Episode Date: March 6, 2018

In this episode I discuss the new revelations about the Obama/Clinton spying scandal. The Trump team was framed, and the information is finally coming out.    I also address the liberal culture war ...and how it’s doomed to fail.    Why did this FBI agent fail to act when it became clear that the Clinton email server showed abnormalities?   This is a terrific piece about a Supreme Court case on free speech where the lawyer defending the restrictive law has some puzzling answers.    This NY Times writer has a warning for liberal culture warriors.    Remember the names. Remember Alexander Downer.   Democrats will not win the long-term fight against the Second Amendment.    Democrats are hopeful for 2018. But should they be?    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Hanging in there, Dan. Good morning to you. Yeah, another big news day today, folks. A lot to get to. Hey, if you've been listening to our show from basically episode 628 on, which I frequently reference, which was the start of the real explosive growth in the show, from basically episode 628 on, which I frequently reference, which was the start of the real explosive growth in the show. We've been growing like 10, 20% a month, but we had, what, like 100% growth in one month after that? More than that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 A lot of the stories that are breaking, and believe me, this is not, please don't take this the wrong way, folks. This is not a, hey, look at us thing. Look how great we are. We got the information from other people as well. I'm not claiming to be some kind of a genius here. I'm just saying that if you've been listening to our show from episode 628 on, and if you haven't, if you just started listening this week, go back and listen and download those shows or listen to them as well. A lot of the news that's breaking right now is not really news.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I know you go to sleep early, Joe, because it's WCBM, but I have a feeling you know where I'm going with this. We don't rehearse this before the show. So, you know, yesterday it broke, broke, air quotes here, that, you know, Alexander Downer has become a major flashpoint in the Trump-Russia investigation. Now, what do I always tell you? Remember the names, right? I got about 50 emails from people last night. Dan, you tell you? Remember the names, right? I got about 50 emails from people last night. Dan, you told me to remember the names.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Thanks. Now I know. They already knew the Downer story before it broke. It's not mysterious. So I'm going to get into that a little bit. I've got another really good piece, shockingly. Folks, give me a pass on this, please. It's in the New York Times. Ah!
Starting point is 00:02:04 I know, I know the slimes. I get it. It's a horrible news. I hate giving them clicks. Yeah. But it's a piece you should read because it's by a fake conservative by the name of David Brooks. He's about as conservative as Jimmy Carter. But he's the New York Times token conservative guy.
Starting point is 00:02:20 But it is a good piece. And it's about the left, again, winning the culture war overwhelmingly, but losing the political war, something Joe and I have talked about a lot. I want to get into that because there's some good takeaways and he makes some good points
Starting point is 00:02:34 that we need to learn too. So I'm going to get into that as well. But I got a lot of good stuff. Great, great topics today. All right, today's show brought to you by buddies at iTarget. Listen, folks, anybody can fire a firearm at the range. You hit a paper target, great.
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Starting point is 00:04:58 time. They needed to dirty up the Trump team. So yesterday breaks, I'll put the story in the show notes today. Please read it because it's a good one, by the way, by John Solomon at the Hill. It'll be in today's show notes at Bongino.com. Subscribe to the email list.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'll email it right to you. But it describes how Downer was intimately tied to the Clintons through a number of financial dealings with the Clinton Foundation, the Australian government.
Starting point is 00:05:24 A story, again, we've already told you about. I don't want to repeat the story because it's not new to our listeners. But it's important now because Solomon did say something last night, Joe, on Fox News that I was like, boom, epic. Like, that was great. Solomon really hammered it. But Downer was involved in this $25 million transfer from the Australian government to a component of the Clinton Foundation. Downer's also the guy that shows up in a bar with a Trump backbencher,
Starting point is 00:05:52 Papadopoulos, back in May. And the FBI is now saying, well, that's how the whole counter investigation, counterintelligence investigation started because Downer reported back to American intelligence agencies that while he was in that bar with Papadopoulos, Papadopoulos had mentioned something about the Russians having dirt on Hillary. Folks, this story gets more polluted and convoluted by the day. Now, I'm not going to relitigate that portion of it. I've already told you on multiple shows how nearly everybody approaching the Trump team, who has either ratted out the Trump team or approached the Trump team saying, hey, look what we got, information on the Russians.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Nearly everyone is tied to the Clintons or to Fusion GPS. Matter of fact, I don't know anybody who's not. You had Millian, the businessman who was reportedly the source of the golden shower story he has some dealings with Papadopoulos he's supposedly the source of the story uh the dossier in the dossier about the golden showers well how did that get to back to fusion gps nobody can explain any of this you have the Agalarov, hey, Don Jr., we need to set up a meeting with this Russian. They have some dirt on Hillary or whatever it may be. Who shows up?
Starting point is 00:07:11 A Russian lawyer associated with Fusion GPS. Now you have Downer. Downer shows up at a bar with Papadopoulos. Hey, Papadopoulos told me about Russian dirt on Hillary. Downer, a $25 million deal with the Clintons. Between the Australian government and the Clinton Foundation. Downer all of $25 million deal with the Clintons between the Australian government and the Clinton Foundation. Downer all of a sudden reports back to the FBI. Folks, this was a setup.
Starting point is 00:07:31 This isn't synchronicity, y'all. No, no, it's not. This is not like some serendipitous course of events. That's not the way this works. This was a setup. It is now common sense. The coincidences are lining up now just to quickly get to this point because Solomon made a genius point last night Joe
Starting point is 00:07:50 he said think about this hat tip to him the four-sided sources that we know about on the record that the four-sided sources that the FBI used to establish probable cause to surveil members of the Trump team, all four sources are deeply connected to the Clintons. Hold on a second. I got to, you know what? My screensaver on my phone is driving me nuts. It goes off like every two minutes. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I got to change that today. All four. Now let's go through them one by one. Source number one. Remember, we're talking about cited sources in legal documents. This is why I keep telling you folks, and I'm going to get to this in a minute too. I got a really depressing email from a guy yesterday. He's like, just this isn't coming. I feel heart. It's a great, I appreciate the email, all caps he wrote in it, by the way, but he made a really, really cool, coming. I feel heart is a great, I appreciate the email caps. He wrote it in, by the way, but he made a really, really cool, um, told me a cool story, kind of an analogy, an analogous story to what's going on right now. And I want to bring that up, but I think justice is coming. And here's why, when I cite these four sources, folks, remember these four sources, it is now
Starting point is 00:08:59 on the record, whether in newspapers or legal documents, that these people passed on information about the Trump team to law enforcement sources, information that was false. There's a legal record here. So source number one is Christopher Steele. Christopher Steele was the source of the dossier used to get probable cause to spy on the Trump team. Christopher Steele was connected to the Clintons. He was working for Fusion GPS, paid by the Clinton campaign to go gather information against Trump. Nothing illegal about that, folks. But there is something extremely untoward and potentially illegal, depending on if they
Starting point is 00:09:40 knowingly swore to it, about bringing political information into a court of law to establish probable cause to spy on an American citizen, knowing the information may have been false, and not disclosing the source of the information, which they didn't. In the court, let's be clear as day, the FBI did not disclose that the information came from the Clinton campaign. They said it was a political campaign. Well, which one kind of makes a difference, folks? So source number one.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Again, we're just establishing, I'm not trying to dumb down the show, I just want to make sure nobody leaves with any sense of confusion. This is good, this is good. Solomon's point was terrific. The four sources of information the FBI used to bring into court to establish a reason,
Starting point is 00:10:24 probable cause to spy, a legal reason, on the Trump team are all from the Clintons. Source number one, Steele. Source number two, Downer. Downer is that the FBI, people are on the record saying that it was the Downer conversation with Papadopoulos that started the counterintelligence investigation into Trump. New York Times on the very same time, Bongino's opinion. This has been reported multiple times by left-leaning outlets. We now know Downer's connected to the Clintons. We now know Downer had some kind of financial relationship with the Clintons through his role in government in Australia. Folks, none of this is in dispute. Downer talks to Papadopoulos, who's working with the Trump team.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Downer then reports back to the American intelligence agencies on Papadopoulos. Oh, by the way, it wasn't disclosed, Joe, that Downer had this relationship with the Clintons, this monetary relationship through the Australian government. That wasn't disclosed in court either. Not relevant, folks. Not relevant at all. Wink and a nod.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Somebody hiding something here? Here's the third source of information cited in the documents. Isikoff. Michael Isikoff. The reporter for Yahoo News. You may say, well, how is he connected to the Clintons? He's working intimately with Alexandra Chalupa, who's working at the DNC
Starting point is 00:11:48 on her own operation against Trump and Manafort. They're following each other around. And Isikoff gets his information from his expose on Trump from who? From Steele. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So you have the DNC and Steele working for Mrs. Clinton, working with a reporter to put information out there whose report in Yahoo News is subsequently used in a court document to say, hey, look, we've got evidence. It's the same evidence as number one. Christopher Steele. You see what I'm saying, Jerry? It's the same story. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's not like, hey, Yahoo News had a different version of events from anonymous sources who were different. It was the same source. So that's number three. Number four, the fourth source of information. Sidney Blumenthal. Known Clinton consigliere, Clinton enforcer. Known Clinton consigliere, Clinton enforcer, Sid Blumenthal and Cody Scheer are already on the record in the Washington Post to an op-ed written by Jonathan Weiner, who worked at the State Department, who says he got the information from Sid Blumenthal. The negative information about Trump that made it into some of Steele's dossiers.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Steele had multiple memorandums on Trump. So four sources of information used to spy on an American citizen, Joe. Four sources. They're all connected to the Clintons. Folks, this was a setup. Please, I'm begging you in common sense terms. up please i i'm i'm begging you in common sense terms please just open your eyes to this if you are a moderate democrat or a reasonable liberal i know they're getting harder to find these days sadly but reverse the scenario for a moment what if i told you that barack obama it's alleged, was working with the Iranians to overturn the results of
Starting point is 00:13:48 an American election. The Iranians were helping Barack Obama win against Mitt Romney, right? Let's say a warrant was drawn up to spy on Obama team members, Susan Rice, whatever it may be, Samantha Power. In that warrant was information proven later to be false. And all four sources of that information on the record all came from people being paid by the Trump team. Would you be annoyed by that? Now, if you're honest, sadly, many of you won't be because you're so blinded by partisanship. Some will, though. If you're honest
Starting point is 00:14:25 you'd say to yourself yeah that's pretty troubling the fact that it doesn't bother you because it's donald j trump says to me that principles don't matter to you revenge and politics matter to you first that principles mean nothing you know damn well this case thinks to high heaven. And I'm, you know, hat tip to John Solomon for putting this out there last night. Now, I will say this, just to be fair to a lot of the reporters on it. I'm not a reporter. I can, I don't want to say take liberties with the facts. We don't do that here. But I have the ability to, I don't have an editor.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like, I can use my spidey sense on a source, get information, put it out there. So we and Joe were able to talk about Downer three months ago in, I guess, ways other reporters weren't because I don't know if they're sourcing. But I was pretty confident given my law enforcement experience that some of the sources we had were
Starting point is 00:15:19 pretty solid. But the Downer story is not new. Now, you're going to see more of this is gonna come out now getting back to that negative email i got where someone said okay great dan you keep talking i get this every day like you know what one guy said i love it but in a way i'm tired of it because nothing's gonna happen no folks i'm telling you something i'm confident something's gonna happen here this ig report it's march you're seeing it come out now by the day more information we found out yesterday i'm gonna get to this in a second peter stroke there's another story about this IG report, it's March. You're seeing it come out now by the day. More information.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We found out yesterday, I'm going to get to this in a second, Peter Stroke, there's another story about that. It's all starting to come out. There is going to be some accountability here. I'm sure of it. But even if it's not, I still want you to hold your head up. I know that sounds hard.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Even if there's not the accountability we want. And I'll talk about that in a bit too. But another story that came out yesterday on this is uh peter stroke peter stroke the compromised fbi agent who was having an affair and was involved in the clinton email investigation and also was involved in the trump special counsel before he was removed by special counsel muller because the emails were horrendously anti-Trump and showed a pattern of, at a minimum,
Starting point is 00:16:27 misbehavior and poor judgment by this guy. There's a Fox News report, I'll put in the show notes today again, at Bongino.com, about Peter Stroke being aware, Joe, of a breach into Hillary Clinton's server. Something you and I talked about, what, like a year ago? Yeah, at least.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I mean, now again, as the source on this, I've tried to turn reporters on to them and they don't want to buy it. But the source is, let me just tell you, the source is unimpeachable. Let me just tell you, the source is unimpeachable. The Clinton server was, if it wasn't breached, I'd be astonished, based on the information I went, by foreign actors, that is. Now, apparently, Stroke had some idea that this was true. Because of what, I'm quoting the Fox News piece by Catherine Herridge, who's been doing great work. There were metadata irregularities in the server, which indicates strongly that foreign actors had breached Mrs. Clinton's server, Joe, and it was
Starting point is 00:17:31 information on that was beyond top secret. Remember. Beautiful Russian girls want to meet you for marriage. That may have been on there. That may have been a phishing scam to get into the Clinton server. Who knows who clicked on it, right?
Starting point is 00:17:46 But the information was beyond top secret. There's, you know, there's sensitive compartmented information. There's human, there's signal intelligence above that. I mean, there's information that is potentially literally life-threatening if it gets out that was on Mrs. Clinton's private server. life-threatening if it gets out that was on mrs clinton's private server the metadata irregularities would lead a you know reasonable person to believe that there were in fact hackers from foreign governments or foreign actors who had broken into that server apparently stroke knew about this and did almost nothing to do what they would call a damage assessment a damage assessment joe and the government is a pretty standard practice. What is it? If Joe Armacost is a spy for the government and we think he's been compromised, there's
Starting point is 00:18:28 a damage assessment afterwards. Who is Joe contacted? If Joe contacted another, say, CIA operative out there, is he in danger too? Is Joe giving him up? Is Joe's email, does he write about this guy? You get what I'm saying, Joe? Sure. There was no damage assessment done.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Now, why is that, folks? You have to ask yourself, why did Stroke delay that decision or not make the decision right away in conjunction with his FBI management superiors? Well, folks, if they did a damage assessment, they would have to acknowledge that it was a strong likelihood that classified information had been breached by a foreign actor, which would have destroyed Mrs. Clinton's chances of running on any kind of a national security platform at all. Now, making it even worse, the Comey July 5th famous speech exonerating Hillary Clinton, which he had no authority to do. Everybody remembers that speech, right?
Starting point is 00:19:20 Sure do. The July 5th Comey speech, the original version of the draft because multiple drafts have now been uh been are out there in the public sphere the original draft joe had a line that it was reasonably likely that hostile foreign actors had breached the server they changed reasonably likely to possible folks i'm telling you case, this was an effort the entire time to frame Donald Trump and exonerate Hillary Clinton. The entire time. This entire operation. As I explained to you in the timeline show, too, with the Andy McCabe stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:59 This entire operation was designed to exonerate Trump. I mean, exonerate Hillary and frame Donald Trump. And as I explained to you again yesterday, the Mueller operation is a smokescreen, too. Joe, you think Mueller doesn't know about Downer? No. Of course he knows. Of course he knows. The guy watches the news.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. He knows about it. You're not even remotely interested that a guy who was involved in a $25 million transfer to the Clinton Foundation from the Australian government is also the guy that initiated a major counterintelligence investigation into the Clinton's political opponents? That doesn't bother you? That doesn't disturb you? That doesn't trouble you at all? I mean, I'm telling you, we live in like bizarro Superman land now.
Starting point is 00:20:44 All right. I got a ton of other stuff to get to, but I wanted to hammer that because it broke last night. And thank you for all the emails. I appreciate it. I'm not trying to be right or first, folks. Really, we're just trying to get the truth out. I promise you.
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Starting point is 00:22:12 They get really dirty. You'll be breathing in a lot of junk. All right. So this Brooks piece is really good, this David Brooks piece in the New York Times. Again, let me just preface this by saying I'm not a fan of this guy. I am definitely not a fan of the New York slimes. I don't think they're interested in facts. I think they're interested in propaganda.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But once in a while, I will link to a piece in there because it's important to see how the other side thinks. And I certainly consider Brooks to be part of the other side of the ideological divide. But he makes some critical points in this thing. And what he's talking about is a topic we brought up a lot about our waning cultural power, but rising political power on the conservative side of the ideological spectrum. Folks, we're winning the political battles. We are. That's tautological. I mean, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We control the presidency. We control the House of Representatives. We control the Senate. We control the majority of governorships, the majority of state houses. The political power is strongly in the red side of the red-blue divide. But it's indisputable at this point that in the culture war, we have been losing in a way. And one of the examples I frequently give about how the default position is always on the left side of the ideological aisle the default meaning the acceptable position right right is remember joe i talked about i don't know about a year ago about how one night i'm sitting there and i'm watching television and i'm thinking about how
Starting point is 00:23:35 i'd read an article a while ago about how a lot of big major companies and joe you know being a cbm yeah car companies soft drink companies big major you know billion dollar enterprises computer companies how they generally avoid conservative talk radio now yeah which i always found strange i mean it is obvious to anyone who knows this that the sponsors of a show are not in any way backing or aligning with the viewpoints of the show. I don't expect them. Folks, there is no questionnaire we give to our sponsors. Hence the disclaimers that run during a show.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Right, right. Exactly. We've talked about this a lot. You know, the views expressed on this show are not the views of the sponsors. That was pretty much the standard of Joe's show. I used to listen to CBM all the time when I was in Maryland. Now, the left, in their never-ending tyrannical battle to crush and silence dissent, has decided to wage economic war in America
Starting point is 00:24:31 and has decided to insist to the American public that the sponsors are somehow associated with the ideas of the show, even though it's patently obvious to anyone with a brain, not including the radical left, that that is not the case. It's even a disclaimer on the damn show,
Starting point is 00:24:44 as Joe said. We do not fill out a questionnaire for the show we don't say hey guys you know are you guys conservatives or that's not what we do now if you take affirmative action to hammer uh conservatives that's a different story uh you know if you take action against this then sorry you're gonna have to find somewhere else but you can say whatever you want. You know, that's fine. Yeah. The problem is we are losing that side. Oh, here's what I was getting at with the story, though.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Sorry. So having that as the setup where a lot of these major companies, right, they've pulled out of conservative talk radio. It's all well and good for those companies, by the way, to hire people as spokespeople and other things, Hollywood people, who've expressed, frankly, at times, pretty repugnant views, as long as those views are on the left. I'm sitting at home and I see this Verizon commercial. I'm pretty sure it was Verizon. I see Jamie Foxx come on.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yes. And this was right around the time of the Quentin Tarantino comments about cops. And Jamie Foxx seemed to align himself with those comments, which were very disparaging, about America's police officers. I thought unnecessary. I thought the Tarantino comments were pretty disgusting. And I said to myself, you know, this is I was really kind of blown away by it. And I thought it doesn't matter if you're pro're pro-abortion anti-cop you know you you you speak out against police officers you speak out against donald trump you're fine major american
Starting point is 00:26:14 companies know verizon sign them up and you know listen disclosure i have my account with verizon on my phone but i just thought that i thought because there's really no way to get away from it anymore and I thought this is evidence of us getting smoked in the cultural war how if you are you know pro-termination of life in the womb that's all good you know you want to be an airline you donate to Planned Parenthood that's okay but you have some kind of a cost sharing, not cost sharing, but a cost reduction flight program with the NRA, oh, that's no good. So he makes the point here, Brooks, in this piece,
Starting point is 00:26:55 that this may hurt the left in the long run. And he gives an example, an example I thought was a good one. He says the left, if they really wanted positive change on the issue of firearm violence, not firearms, but firearm violence in general, crime specifically, Joe, using firearms. Okay. That they would stop hyper polarizing every single incident and making it, oh, NRA, you guys are accomplices and you guys are murderers that this in the end is going to generate a significant backlash on the other end and he gives an example he says think about it joe he says this opioid crisis in the country
Starting point is 00:27:38 right now and i again folks i don't want to over there's a lot of it's a serious believe me i've been a victim of it personally, so please don't send me emails. I'm serious. I never asked you, but I've been a... I'm not even going to get into it, but I have been a personal victim of this in my family. It's real. But there is also a media-driven narrative
Starting point is 00:28:01 that it's some kind of a... I mean, it's an epidemic beyond controllable proportions. It's a serious, serious problem. I am again, I've had it in my own family. But there's a lot of media hype that I think is driving further government intervention that hasn't worked yet. The government has failed in the drug war for as long as it's been waging it. But. Sorry, I had to put that out there because i don't i get a lot of emails whenever i mention that but he says there has been some progress a little bit and there is at least some bipartisan agreement joe on this opioid crisis because the left has not hyper polarized it in other words
Starting point is 00:28:42 they haven't gone after people on the right and been like well you know you uh you guys are all you're killing kids all over the place that you know this course is going to be political attacks but they haven't hyper polarized it like they have on the gun issue so there's some kind of you say there's the two political tracks joe right you got liberals and conservatives they are moving towards each other at some point where there may be some kind of a agreement in the future and it doesn't have to be a government one but you know it may be some kind of uh you know a public education program whatever it may be you know but um they haven't hyper polarized that but he says the mistake they make with the gun issue is they have hyper polarized it and created everybody is an enemy, anyone who disagrees with them.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And here's what he calls it. He says this has generated a backlash by conservatives, and they've made them unacceptable and effectively a separatist subculture. Like, if you're a conservative, you live in this land of freaks. You're a bunch of separatists, and you should never be accepted in public life again. And they do this through intimidation. What's the intimidation? It's social media.
Starting point is 00:29:46 It's intimidating companies. You guys are accomplices to murder. Murderers, murderers, blood on your hands. But folks, I have a big, I capitalize it. But here's the but in this. I don't think the left can stop. I don't think this is optional at this point, Joe. I think the left is so knee-deep in critical theory. They have been trained and lectured by critical theory people in academia, people who critical theory is brushed off on. And critical theory is very simply the idea that
Starting point is 00:30:22 if you were part of the white patriarchal power structure in other words a conservative or basically joe anyone who doesn't agree with liberals then you are in fact a not a voice worthy of being heard because anything you do or say facts you cite data you cite reports you cite is nothing more than an advancement of your uh of your willingness to control people through your use of power. Therefore, basically, you're an idiot and you should shut your piehole. Well, and they've heard it and said it so much, they're having a bit of Stockholm syndrome with this particular topic.
Starting point is 00:30:54 They are. The Stockholm syndrome, you know, when the hostages start to feel for the hostage. Eventually, people start to settle in and they accept it. They almost accept their conditions like, you know, they've said it so much. Maybe it's a good point. Actually leads into what I was going to say next, which is good. You know, we kind of like almost accept it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And folks, you say, oh no, I don't accept it. I speak up. Folks, I am one of the most vocal conservatives out there. I mean, we have the second biggest conservative podcast in the country right now. And I'm telling you, even at times, I have felt the need to keep quiet. I will never forget. Quick story for you.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I was down for the inauguration, second inauguration of Barack Obama. And I'm down there as a former Secret Service agent doing some commentary for NBC. And there's three or four camera people and whatever people who are doing the segment. They were organizing it like producer types. And the topic of guns comes up and they start saying crazy things about assault weapons and things.
Starting point is 00:31:58 What's such a thing as assault weapons? And instead of speaking up, folks, again, it doesn't do me any good to always puff myself up. Look at me. I've been guilty of it too like joe said the stockholm syndrome sets in because you've been beaten down so much you've been told what a freak you are and how you're to quote uh brooks a separatist subculture a bunch of freakadoos and you've been intimidated so much i didn't say anything and i regretted that even to this day i regret it so much i remember the story and i'm telling you about it right now on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I was really kind of ashamed when I went home that I didn't have the guts to stand up, and I know it was going through my head. I was tired. I really didn't feel like getting in a gun debate, especially that I'd driven all the way down there to D.C. to do this Secret Service commentary, and I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:42 I'm going to get into a fight, and I don't want to drive back, but that's not an excuse. That's bull. I should have said something. And I didn't. And it bothers me still to this day. But Joe's right.
Starting point is 00:32:53 There was a certain Stockholm syndrome that kicks in from being unlike in the opioid crisis where there's some agreement on the left and right about what needs to be done. There is none on guns. The left wants your guns. The right's not giving them up. The left has cultural power.
Starting point is 00:33:09 We have political power. Politically, we're not giving them up. I'm telling you, as of right now, at least, there's no threat to the Second Amendment now. There will be after the 2018 election if we don't win. Don't mistake what I'm saying. There's no threat right now. 2018, we lose seats. Oh, you damn well better saying there's no threat right now 2018 we lose seats
Starting point is 00:33:26 oh you damn well better believe there's a threat that's why you better go out and vote folks please I'm begging you go out and vote in 2018 but culturally speaking they're winning the war every day more and more gun owners NRA members it gets worse and worse
Starting point is 00:33:42 you go from accomplices to straight up murderers at this point. They're winning the culture. They've stigmatized this so much that I have friends of mine that are afraid to put an NRA sticker on their car. Like, oh, they'll pop my tires. Which fits into Joe's good point about how it's just the Stockholm Syndrome.
Starting point is 00:33:58 We're just so used to it. We're like, maybe we are the bad guys. Now, I saw an interesting email in my account from a on a from a friend i don't want to say who he didn't give me permission uh to use his name but i don't think he would mind because he wrote this in one of his books so it's pretty much out there but he talks about how this intimidation weapon joe and this non-stop effort by the left to paint us as this to quote again brooks this separatist subculture to intimidation.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Look at those freaky conservatives, weirdos, nuts, murderers, accomplices to murder, deplorables, rednecks, hicks, fly over country. He said one of the initial weapons of the cultural Marxist. He said one of the initial weapons of the cultural Marxists. So Marxism is generally the idea that the state should control resources on the economic side. So we would call that economic suppression through the confiscation of assets and turning them over to state actors. The government's stealing your stuff. Okay, I'm trying to keep this simple. Cultural Marxism is really no different. It's the theft of cultural power and the ability to get
Starting point is 00:35:06 your voice out there and the theft of prestige oh the theft of prestige and the theft of prestige makes you in any group of people look like some kind of an intellectual cretin and someone not to be taken seriously that is why i tell you this is a remnant of cultural theory and cultural marxism critical theory teaches exactly that that facts and data don't matter when vocalized by conservatives because they're just using these facts and data to advance their power position as white males so nothing they say even if you quote to them two plus two equals four as bs that fact doesn't matter because he said it. Who? The conservative guy. But if a liberal tells you six plus six equals 22, that's to be taken seriously because he's a warrior for the little guy.
Starting point is 00:35:53 This is all a remnant of cultural Marxism. The intimidation used by people to steal prestige away from conservatives so their voices are meaningless and they're to be treated like deplorables like uh you know sub-intellectual subhumans they are not to be taken seriously and folks it's working i just told you that example of the verizon thing tell me you know i mean if you're a a mainstream outspoken conservative actor the chances of you getting a role it's not just hollywood i'm just using hollywood because it's an easy example to understand the chances of you getting a role the chances of you being uh assigned the spokesman role for a major company are very slim but if you're a liberal actor you can be and take any liberal position higher, pro-abortion, pro-Obamacare. You're golden. You are good to go. Just watch commercials during TV. Look at the celebrity spokespeople.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Point out to me how many conservative actors you see there. Oh, none. I haven't seen any. They may be out there. I haven't seen it. We're losing the cultural war. Now, let me read to you something from the Brooks piece. I didn't mean to spend a lot of time on this, but this is a really good topic, and you need to understand it, because the why matters, folks. The why liberals go to war with us all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Well, you had to set the table, so that's cool. I had to set the table, exactly. Now, here's a warning now. Now, this is the good news. So the bad news is, let me just wrap up the warning here for us, and then we'll give the warning to progressives that Brooks himself gives them. The warning to us is we are losing.
Starting point is 00:37:31 The cultural wars and cultural Marxism stealing the prestige of conservatives to make them freaks and to make them not worthy of public conversation and polite societies working. It is now the generally accepted default position that liberalism is okay and conservatives are freaks. This has been done through intimidation. But here's a warning Brooks in the piece gives the conservatives. And read the piece. I'm serious. It's in the Times, but it is worth reading. He says, the only thing I'd say to my progressive friends is, be careful how you win your victories. It's one thing to win by persuasion and another thing to win by elite cultural intimidation illiberalism breeds illiberalism using elite power whether economic or cultural to silence less educated foes which is kind of a crap thing to say
Starting point is 00:38:20 by the way usually produces a backlash. One more paragraph. Conservatives have zero cultural power, but they have immense political power. Even today, voters trust Republicans on the gun issue more than Democrats. If you exile 40% of the country from respectable society, they will mount a political backlash that will make Donald Trump look like Adlai Stevenson. Now, again, Brooks is no friend of the conservative movement, but even Brooks sees the writing on the wall, folks, that there will be a backlash. Now, getting back to the email I received, because it's going to tie into where I go next. I received an email from a guy, all caps, by the please, if you send me emails, don't
Starting point is 00:39:04 write them in all caps. They're hard to read to read my eyes are going bad I'm only 43 put some punctuation in there or something man put a you know capitalization lowercase please it's easy to read but it's a great email jokes aside and he was kind of depressed in the email guy says listen I all I can be reminded of right now, Joe, you remember Hank Williams Sr.? Yeah. He's a guy. Joe knows that.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Joe is a music aficionado, musician himself, and a good one. Thank you. You're welcome. He said Hank Williams Sr. died very early, obviously had a trouble. I know the story pretty well. I know most of you do, but led a pretty troubled life. He was a musician, had some very very famous songs but had problems with drugs and there's a story out there that before he died mini pearl was one of his buddies that he was in the back of a car or
Starting point is 00:39:56 something like that and was really hurt and uh he looked at mini pearl and said there ain't no light there ain't no light you know talking about the light at the end of the tunnel. In other words, basically saying there's no hope. And he said, that's how I feel right now. There ain't no light. And I have to tell you, of all the emails I've received over the last two, three years we've been doing the show, this one really kind of touched me.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I think it caught my attention, ironically, because it wasn't all caps. And usually when they're in all caps, it's a liberal. You suck, mother, really. So i read it in the gym yesterday yeah and i thought gosh i really have to boost this guy up so i had to put that little interlude in there because i get it after reading that how we're losing the culture wars, how it's not acceptable for us to talk in polite society anymore. We're deplorable. We're intellectually inferior.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I get it how a lot of you feel like, well, Dan, what's the good news? The good news is, as my friend Tim has said, who gave me some advice on this. He said, listen, once you recognize the propaganda, the propaganda loses its effect, folks, because you can fight it. You have to understand we are at a minimum at a plurality, but in some cases, the majority of the opinion, when you factor in the unsilent majority, I mean, the silent majority in the unsilent uh the unsilent majority i mean the silent majority in the uns some of us are unsilent the 40 but i guarantee you there's another 10 to 15 percent that are silent that are with us though they're afraid to say they support trump they realize gun control is crap and they just don't want to say it because they've been intimidating
Starting point is 00:41:39 so he says the first thing is understanding the propaganda and changing the debate. Now, something happened last night on Fox, and this is where I like to tie in stories that I thought that you may have seen it. I'll get to it in a second, though, because I want to just set it up. There is light at the end of the tunnel. We are understanding the propaganda. Remember what I told you about gaslighting in that show I did months back? Yeah. Gaslighting is what the left does.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It's the telling of lies over and over again, telling those lies confidently and with passion, using emotional appeals, but then isolating people from the truth. Propaganda only works. North Korean propaganda. You know, look, the dear leader kim jong-un he is a descendant of a god folks that only works if you don't have access to google google like is kim jong-un really the descendant of a god and some guy in a blog or news goes um fact check false that's pretty stupid right i mean think about it propaganda only works if the truth isn't known it's why it's the very same reason in a free constitutional republic we have now that a lot of young kids are liberal
Starting point is 00:42:57 they're liberal because they go to school in liberal schools even in conservative states the schools are largely liberal and then they get a job and they're 21 and they go hey man i heard this high tax thing was absolutely terrific and then they get their paycheck and like wow this sucks you're no longer isolated from the truth gaslighting doesn't work anymore north koreans who get out of north korea figure out pretty quickly kim jong-un is not the descendant of a god he's a short fat guy because why because people start to talk to them and the truth gets out there gaslighting doesn't work gaslighting is not working anymore for liberals like it was years ago because the information ecosystem is dramatically expanded and moved past the era of tom brokaw walter cronkite umite, Peter Jennings, there is no more media monopoly
Starting point is 00:43:47 on what was essentially propaganda. For every liberal story that comes out about Donald Trump and his tax cuts are going to crush the economy, there's a conservative piece or a talking head on Fox that goes out and says, well, that's crap. The evidence says otherwise. Gaslighting only works and propaganda only works if you isolate people from the truth. It also only works if you repeatedly repeat the lie confidently. But remember, that works both ways.
Starting point is 00:44:19 When you repeat the truth confidently, it also leaves an impression on people. Right. I can't tell you how many people see me on Fox. It's an email me. Hey, is that true about firearm ownership going up and gun violence going down? Yes. Here's the chart, folks. Easy to read it yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Does it change their mind? I don't know. But it certainly makes it more difficult for the left to propagandize them into more guns, more violence. That's not that's simply not true.ize them into more guns, more violence. That's simply not true. More guns have not equaled more violence. It is factually incorrect. Right. No matter how many times you say that, it will never be true.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The propaganda only works if you are isolated. We are no longer isolated. Oh. If you are isolated. We are no longer isolated. The good news is when you understand, as my friend tells me, when you understand the propaganda, you understand it is propaganda, you can actively work to change the narrative. Now, here's what happened last night on Fox, which I thought was a brilliant move by Mark Stein. Mark Stein is in for Tucker Carlson. He's a very talented political commentator, Mark. He's filling in, and he has a guy on from a gun control group. He's a very convincing fellow. I think his name is Glaze or something. Mark Glaze. I'm sorry. I don't remember the name,
Starting point is 00:45:38 but I'm pretty sure that was it. He's a very convincing guy. He's not a hellion. He'll come on and he speaks very calmly. And you listen to him and he comes off, Joe, to people who aren't informed about the firearm debate is very reasonable. Meanwhile, he's a gun grabber. How do I know? Because he admitted as such last night. He's on the show. And at one point, Stein, who's a great debater,
Starting point is 00:46:03 gets him to say, well, what are your proposals to control gun violence? And at one point, the guy, he doesn't slip either, Joe. Most of them do. Most of them will say, we don't want your guns, but let's do Australia. Australia, where they took people's guns, right? This guy just comes out and says it. You know, maybe we should do the Australia thing and get into compulsory buybacks. Compulsory buybacks, meaning what?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Compulsory meaning you're forced to do it. Meaning they're going to take your guns. So Stein's kind of flabbergasted. It's like, because usually they won't admit that, Joe, on the air. He gets the guy to admit it on the air that that's what they want. They want to take your guns, which I thought, I looked at my wife and I go, did you hear that? Like you rarely hear that on the air. that's what they want. They want to take your guns, which I thought, I looked at my wife and I go, did you hear that? Like you rarely hear that on the air.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They usually hide it. And you know what I'm saying, Joe, they'll disguise their radical views. Stein senses an opening and brilliantly moves in. And he senses the propaganda and exposes it. And he says to the guy, well,
Starting point is 00:47:00 you know, how many members does the NRA have? And the guy's like, well, millions, but the number may be open for dispute. Oh, have and the guy's like well millions but the number may be open for dispute oh well the fact that they have millions of members but it's not open for dispute you can dispute how many millions but the fact that they have millions of members is not open for dispute at all which the guy eventually acknowledges the gun grabber that is stein then
Starting point is 00:47:19 says to him how many members do you have and he's like well you know um not that many so stein brilliantly says to him well doesn't that make you the fringe position i was like bravo i even stopped my wife she was cooking some awesome salmon uh it was great'm like, did you hear that? I'm like, that is how you fight back in the culture war. He recognizes the propaganda. You NRA members are crazy. We should steal your guns. He recognizes it. He isolates that nonsensical garbage.
Starting point is 00:48:00 A propaganda group with 5 million members? The country only has 300 million people. It's got 5 million members the country only has 300 million people it's got 5 million members that vote he then says to him well okay if they're a fringe group how many members do you have oh well you know not not much well how are we the fringe group you see how the propaganda stopped Joe timeout. It stopped immediately because he confronts him on his, his nonsense, his absurdity.
Starting point is 00:48:34 He doesn't have any numbers to back up what he's saying. He makes him call out a fringe position, taking people's guns, which is unquestionably a fringe position, even so-called moderates, which I dispute that word on gun control, will not argue for a nationwide confiscation because they know it's a loser. He calls him out and on the air in front
Starting point is 00:48:54 of 3 million people shows hey, don't be intimidated. Don't be intimidated anymore. He's the fringe guy. He's the fringe guy. He's the kook, not us. That's how you win this.
Starting point is 00:49:13 That's how you fight back in the culture war. You see where I'm going with this, Joe? Yeah, we do live in a deplorality, you know? Right, we're the ones, but you need... Yeah. You know what reminds me of something we talked about before? What, bro? Remember a while back I said there's this video on youtube someone sent it to me there's a cool video on youtube and i don't know what it's titled so forgive me but it's a guy dancing in the park yeah and from what i heard from a friend some intelligence agencies use this to show the power
Starting point is 00:49:42 of persuasion and how it's not the first person to speak out. It's the first person to back the first person speaking out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the video is a pretty cool one. It's a guy gets up in a park. I don't know what it is. Central Park, whatever. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:49:56 And he starts dancing. Right, right. Like a crazy guy. And everybody's looking at him like, what a weirdo. Kind of like what the liberals say to us now like what a weirdo they want to carry guns they're all crazy it's not the guy who gets up and stands up against the tyranny of the majority it's the first guy who backs him up and goes i'm with that guy and you liberals are crazy that's the guy who changes the course of history because what happens
Starting point is 00:50:23 in the video a second guy gets up and starts dancing crazy with the crazy guy. Next thing you know, the whole park starts dancing. My point here, folks, is there is a light at the end of the tunnel to my email friend who thinks it's all dark. The light at the end of the tunnel is people like Stein and people like others, instead of taking the easy road and going, oh, yeah, guns are bad. You know what? Maybe we should just acquiesce. You know, abortion's great. That's all wonderful. We can control the population. So I'm not going to fight those social fights anymore. I'm just going to worry about the economics and stuff. That's the new Republican Party. Those days are over. The second guy's up and dancing. The third guy's going to be next. I'm telling you, this will generate a cultural
Starting point is 00:51:05 backlash. The left can't possibly win. And I tell you that because people will not accept their big all rights evaporating and being wiped down a toilet bowl. They will absolutely not accept it lying down. The second guy is going to get up and dance. And the third guy is going to get up and dance and the third guy's going to get up and dance they will not accept it you can elect democrats in 2018 maybe because some apathy sets in but the minute they put in a assault weapons ban on the books and college campuses more conservatives keep getting beaten up eventually you're going to see conservative campuses you're going to see a backlash at the voting booth you're going to see a cultural at the voting booth. You're going to see a cultural backlash, massive boycotts of your companies. You can't possibly win. The anger you're going to generate by a constant war on people's big R rights will generate an actionable response.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm not talking about violence. I'm talking about the voting booth, political boycotts, academic institution boycotts, boycotts of products that use celebrity spokespeople who are liberal. This is only a matter of time. It's happening now. Look at the Delta story. Delta, we're going to cut all ties with the NRA. Okay, how about that $40 million taxpayer gift we were giving you? Yeah, no dice on that one.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Good call, Delta. 13 people used the NRA discount. You lost $40 million. Listen, I'm not recommending the heavy hand of government for anything i'm just saying brooks's point and this guy is no conservative is a good one you are generating a cultural backlash the backlash is going to be severe people understand propaganda right now because people like stein are out there to tell the truth they recognize the propaganda they discount it like Stein are out there to tell the truth. They recognize the propaganda.
Starting point is 00:52:46 They discount it. And they are starting to understand by the exposing of gun grabbers and far left extremists that we're not the wackos. They are. They're the kooks. Not us. These late term abortion people, gun grabbers, taxes should be 90%. The government should control your health care. They're the wackos.
Starting point is 00:53:07 We're not nuts. They're crazy. They're crazy. We are not the crazy ones. Be the second guy. Stand up and dance. Get up and dance with the other guy. And then follow the second guy.
Starting point is 00:53:23 You've been dancing for a while. Here we go, baby. He actually is dancing. Yeah, baby. Get up and dance. This is how it works. Yep. We're all going to take a little bit of skin off on this.
Starting point is 00:53:37 It's going to hurt a little bit. Joe and I had to do something recently. It made us a little uncomfortable on the show. I don't mean I'm comfortable because we did the right thing, but it wasn't easy. But you know what? Companies filled right back in that hole, man. Right away.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Sold out, fellas. You know what? You want to boycott us? Media matters. Boycott us. That's fine. We'll go private. Folks, listen.
Starting point is 00:54:04 We will fight back. You will fight back you will fight back we will win because people are dancing all right i got one more story on this to show you the extreme position remember they're the extremists not us thank you joe give me a little round yeah that's how i know i was on to something joe joe's a very good judge of what show is going to do well and what shows are going to do okay. He predicts it almost 100% of the time. All right, today's show brought to you by Buddies at Brickhouse Nutrition.
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Starting point is 00:56:32 All right. Really, really, really good story for you. I saw it. This will be, please read this one at the show notes. I know, listen, I get it. I know I'm driving you crazy, asking you every day, but I want you to know what I know so bad because I read this stuff and I really want you to see this article.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It's from the Acton blog and it's really good. It was sent to me by a friend. And it covers a case, you may not hear about this anywhere else. And I'm gonna cover this a little later on NRA TV, by the way. Thanks to everybody who tuned in last night. I'm on every night now, 5.30 live from my home studio,
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Starting point is 00:57:21 But the case, Joe, in front of the Supreme Court, this is a really cool story, is the Minnesota Voters Alliance versus Manske. And here's the essence of the case. Minnesota bans political apparel at the polling place. You may say, oh, pretty simple. What's the case about? So in other words, you can't walk into a political place with a shirt that says, you know, vote Armacost 2020 or Bongino. I have a, someone sent me a sticker, Bongino Armacost 2020.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah. So Joe and I will not be running, but thank you very much for the offer. We appreciate it. Now it sounds pretty straightforward, right, Joe? Right. Yeah, yeah. Folks, again, this is the left's effort
Starting point is 00:58:00 to silence political speech. You may say, but Dan, you said bans political apparel. Doesn't it ban conservative apparel too oh oh not so much the questioning here you know what maybe i was going to just take a bit but let me read to you just quickly the questioning i was going to just kind of do some highlights of it but maybe i'll do a couple this is don't go anywhere folks folks. Here we go. So let me start from the beginning here, because this is important. So here is a transcript of the questioning. And here's what I want you to take away from this.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So you know what I'm trying to say here. Listen to the answers when Justice Alito, who is a terrific conservative joke, when Justice Alito asks this, the guy who's defending this political T-shirts and stuff and pins and buttons aren't allowed at the polling place. Listen to his answers about what's political. And remember the prior conversation we just had the entire time, drawing arrows in my head here, where I was trying to tell you that liberalism is not considered liberal anymore. It's considered the default acceptable position. If you're a liberal, you're just normal. If you're a conservative, you're a political maniac. Listen to the answers this guy defending this crazy law gives about what's political and what's not. Justice Alito says to him,
Starting point is 00:59:21 his name is Daniel Rogan, the guy defending it he says how about a shirt with a rainbow flag would that be permitted of course the rainbow being a symbol of a lot of gay rights organizations he says this is rogan now a shirt with a rainbow flag uh no it would um yes it would be it would be permitted um unless there was unless there was an issue on the ballot that that related somehow to gay rights this is i'm putting in this is him stumbling through it by the way read this piece it'll be at the show notes today it's short and sweet so rainbow flag is cool joe it's not political unless there's a specific gay rights question on the ballot great so folks we got it rainbow flag all good cool okay question two justice alito hey man how about a shirt he didn't say hey man let's be
Starting point is 01:00:06 hey brother how about a shirt that says parkland strong rogan no that would um that would be uh that would be allowed i think your honor parkland of course being the horrific tragedy down here but parkland strong being an issue uh and he says, Justice Alito says, even though gun control would very likely be an issue. And he says, I think today that I would be, if that was in Minnesota and it was Parkland Strong, I would say that that would be allowed, that there's not. He can't answer the question because when it's about gun control, it's, oh yeah, that's cool. So rainbow flag, cool. Gun control type statements, those are cool. Not political, Joe. Again, the default position, that's not political. Only flag, cool. Gun control type statements. Those are cool. No, not political, Joe.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Again, the default position, that's not only conservatives are nuts, right? Hey, this is great. Justice Alito. Okay. How about an NRA shirt? An NRA shirt today in Minnesota? No, no, it would not. Folks, I'm not making
Starting point is 01:01:01 this up, by the way. Your Honor, I think that's a clear indication. And I think what you're getting at, Your Honor, so he cuts him off. So no, it would not. Folks, I'm not making this up, by the way. Your Honor, I think that's a clear indication. And I think what you're getting at, Your Honor, so he cuts him off. So no, no, the NRA shirt's no good. Rainbow flag, perfectly okay. Parkland strong, gun control, A-okay. An NRA shirt, eh, X-ray on that.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Alito, who's a genius. He is a genius. This questioning, you have got to read this. And there's a video in there, too. Watch it. It's amazing. Watch the guy stumble. Justice Alito, this is brilliant.
Starting point is 01:01:31 How about a shirt with the text of the Second Amendment? That's just our Constitution, Joe. Your Honor, I think that that could be viewed as political. That would be political. The Second Amendment. Just the political. The Second Amendment. Just the text of the Second Amendment. So the rainbow flag, A-OK, brother. Parkland Strong, bingo.
Starting point is 01:01:52 The Second Amendment, the actual text, no, no, no way. No good. NRA shirt, absolutely not. Okay, one more. Tell you, you got to love Alito. If I see him, I'm going to pat him on the back. Hopefully his security doesn't stop him. I mean it a good way.
Starting point is 01:02:06 He's great. How about the First Amendment? No, Your Honor, I don't think the First Amendment and, Your Honor, I and Chief Justice Roberts intervenes know what? That it would be covered or it wouldn't be allowed. No, the First Amendment would be allowed. So the First Amendment's cool, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Because liberals agree with that sometimes. But the Second Amendment, definitely not. That's political. Wait, wait, wait. One more. This is because this one's great. Cool. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Two more. How about a Colin Kaepernick jersey, Alito says. No, Your Honor. I don't think that would be under our statute. And I think, in other words, it's okay. Yeah. It's not a cover by the seat. Colin Kaepernick jersey. Ayo, that's okay yeah it's not a covered by the sea colin kaepernick
Starting point is 01:02:45 jersey hey that's not political even though kaepernick is known primarily for making a political statement now listen to the genius right kaepernick stands with black lives matter and that whole group but his jersey's okay according to this liberal supposed lawyer here right lito sets him up perfectly oh well how about an all lives matter shirt all lives matter the counter to black lives matter the sensible position i think but one associated sadly with conservatives because it shouldn't be conservative how about all lives matter uh your honor that could be uh that could be perceived as political so that that's no good. No good there. Folks, if you read anything today, read this piece, tweet it, put it on your Facebook,
Starting point is 01:03:36 and email it to your liberal friends, and ask them to explain this away, please. This is what I told you. Liberalism is the default position. Conservatives are seen as the fringe movement. But folks, the tide is turning. It's's pieces like this supreme court's cases like this that expose the liberals for everything i've been telling you they are for the last three years wanton and desirous of a discretionary government where the rules don't matter and they change them on the fly. There's no rule about political speech here. This guy can't even define it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 He's defending it in court. Rainbow flag, good. Kaepernick, good. All lives matter, NRA, no, no, definitely no good. They could both be perceived as political speech. But when there's no rules and liberals are in power, it's only the conservative political speech that has to be silenced. Discretionary government, folks. Liberals hate the rules. They like flexible rules, which are no rules at all, because they love power and they love control. Don't ever forget it. All right,
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