The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 688 What Is Really Happening Here?

Episode Date: March 30, 2018

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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today hey i'm doing very well on this good friday good friday yes i'm a christian so thank you today to my personal lord and savior jesus christ for, for putting up with intolerable suffering and, you know, human beings spitting on you and beating you and flogging you and crucifying you to save my tortured soul. So thank you very much for that. It's a very solemn day in Christianity. Obviously, most of you know that. Some of you who aren't Christians, this is the day we celebrate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ dying on the cross. So Easter Sunday coming up,

which is going to be, which is obviously the most celebrated day in Christianity, the resurrection of Christ. So that's, yep, it's a big deal to me. I know religion means a lot. It's not a religion-based show, but it does motivate a lot of what I talk about and the reasons I believe in individual liberty, big R rights granted by God, and all of those things. Thank you all for hearing me out on those topics.

Hey, I got a lot to get to today on the show. I gotta tell you, I'm a little banged up, Joe. I'm filling in for Mark Levin tonight, so if you want to listen, I will be in from 6 to 9 Eastern Time on the Mark Levin Radio Show. You can listen at marklevinshow.com or whatever your local station is. He's on like 10 million stations across the country, including Joe's at WCBM in Baltimore. So listen in.

But I'm a little hurt because I worked out three days in a row because I wanted to take off today. And my back is still injured. And I keep thinking to myself, gosh, just take a break once in a while and you'll heal yourself up. But I can't do that it's just not in my gene code so but a lot to get to joe um number one fellas ladies i feel really good today for this show mind is totally clear take it easy on sessions take it easy i Sessions. Take it easy. I got people emailing me.

They're like ready to go crazy on Jeff Sessions. I'm going to explain it. Take it easy. I'll explain what's going on to you about the lack of appointment for a special counsel. I was going to get to this topic second or third, but I feel like some of you even in the car now are getting ready to go drop off like complaint letters to the Department of Justice about Jeff Sessions. Turn around. Go home. Let me explain this to you.

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take it easy. Take it easy. I'm going to do a shirt because my wife is almost done with the online store. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for everybody who's uh expressed interest in that that means a lot it's going to help us uh move the show in a positive direction provide a source of revenue in case we have to deal with uh the liberal nut jobs out there so that's good but i want to do a shirt that says, take it easy. Here's what we know. So last night, Jeff Sessions was revealed through a number of interviews that he has not agreed to a special counsel on the FISA abuse process. And I promptly got, Joe, I kid you not, close to, I don't know, 100 emails. Dan, you said take it easy.

Sessions let us down again. There's not going to be a special counsel. I thought, how do I break this down? Okay. Number one, let's rationally talk about what's happened so far without a special counsel. You know, there's a special counsel for the Russian collusion fairy tale, which we all object to because there's no collusion.

I get that. Right. Everybody wants a special counsel to investigate the misdeeds, the malfeasance and misfeasance of the Department of Justice, the spying scandal and the Hillary Clinton email investigation, which was corrupted. That is not happening right now. But what's been happening without a special counsel? McCabe's been fired, the number two at the fbi and i don't think they're done with mccabe at all i'll get to that in a second the pfizer judge responsible for uh the flynn plea testimony contraris has been outed and has been uh forced to uh recuse from the case The stroke and page texts have all been coming out,

exposing the scandal. And by the way, as we recently discovered, as we talked about this week on shows, White House involvement through the White House chief of staff, a sneeze away from the president that was coordinating these meetings. We've all uncovered this without a special counsel. So that's, I had to line this out because i want

rationality matters here this is what has already happened with no special counsel so i i line that out as what he did talking about sessions and the doj here's number two in this what's already happening now so that's what did. But what's happening now as we speak? Folks, why do you think there are no public congressional hearings with the major players in this? Has this ever occurred to you? No. Think about this, Joe. Okay.

You know who Peter Stroke is, right? The FBI agent who was texting Lisa Page. Think about this, Joe. Yeah, okay. You know who Peter Stroke is, right? The FBI agent who was texting Lisa Page. Those texts have become public. They were having an affair. They worked for a guy named Bill Prestep in the FBI. Prestep

worked with a guy named Mafa, who we talked about yesterday, who had a role, who visited the White House about this case and had a role in the drafting of the Hillary exoneration letter. Why aren't these people up on Capitol Hill, Joe? Have you ever thought about that? Yeah. Everyone else is up there.

Clapper. Yeah, I have thought about that. Brennan. Why? Jim Comey. They got Susan Rice going up there. Where are all these people? What are they doing?

What are they doing, daddy-o? What the hell's going on here? What the hell's going on here? What the hell's going on here? You think they're out there playing tiddlywinks? Maybe little Legos? Maybe Battleship? What the hell do you think they're doing? There's a reason these people aren't up on Capitol Hill.

It's because there's a darn good chance. Joe, wink at a nod. You picking up what I'm putting down? There's a damn good chance that people up on the Hill aren't asking them to testify in public because they're already testifying behind closed doors to Sessions' team that is already looking into this.

You get it? Joe's like, do we need a ditto cam for this? You're right. Take it easy on Sessions. All right. So number one,

what's already happened? McCabe, out. Contreras,. Stroking pages, texts everywhere. The House investigation into Trump collusion. No evidence of collusion. Number three, which I just kind of discussed and molded, excuse me, melded into two. Who is cooperating? Why are these people not up on the hill if they were so intimately involved in the spying on of Donald Trump and the exoneration of Hillary Clinton? What, they all just disappeared? What are they in the Infinity Wars land? In the Avengers movie? Are they in like, you know, you ever hear M-Theory with that alternate universe

stuff? Are they in an alternate universe? Where'd they go? Are they in Bizarro Superman land? You got something? You look like you want to say something. Yeah, I'm wondering and I have been wondering why I haven't heard a word from Strock or Page. Nobody's out trying to interview him.

No. Nobody's gone to their... What way is that? You know what? You get an autograph from Kanye West, CNN's at your house tomorrow looking for an interview, right? Yeah. Why isn't anybody interviewing them?

Why is everybody so quiet? And more importantly, Joe, I'm actually glad you brought that up because I forgot one point of this and you cued me there. Why do they still have jobs in the FBI? Ah. Ah. Oh. Ah. What? They're still working there. Yeah.

Andy McCabe out. Goodbye, Office of Professional Responsibility at the FBI. See ya. Have a nice day. Wouldn't want to be ya. Why are these other people still there? Why? They were all intimately involved in this. They've all been outed. Why are they still there? Maybe they cut a deal.

You think that could be good? Folks i am i don't know jeff sessions i have literally never met the man in my life i don't i don't even know if i've been in an event with jeff sessions i cannot recall ever meeting jeff sessions in my entire life i have assuredly never had a conversation with him. And I am a conservative. I am not loyal to people. I'm loyal to ideas. I have no loyalty, and I don't mean this as a slight,

no loyalty whatsoever to Jeff Sessions. I don't know him. But when have I steered you wrong on this? Go back and listen to episode 628 to now. We're 60 episodes in from that when I started covering this. Where have I steered you wrong? Tell me one thing that, and I have been steered at places by other people. When have I steered you wrong? When have I steered you wrong?

I keep putting this information on the air because other people have yet to steer me wrong. Everything they've told me has come true. Listen to 628. Everything we said happened. Joe laughs sometimes because they talk about it on his morning show and he's like, yeah, we already heard that on our podcast like two months ago thanks it's not me i'm not a i just i'm not taking credit

for other people have given me this stuff okay i didn't figure out like i didn't invent the pythagorean theorem people just told me stuff that i trust people that are very well connected. Take it easy on Sessions. Give it time. Stuff has already happened. Now, we've gone through what's happened, what is happening, and who is cooperating. Now, number four. There's a big outcry because Sessions has not named a special counsel, Why? Because Sessions has not named a special counsel, but has in fact named someone within the Justice Department to look at this whole thing.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me give you a little bit of information in case you're... How do I say this without sounding like a total jerk? And I'm really not trying to. Joe is a sound engineer and an executive producer for the podcast. I am now a conservative content producer. I was at one point a Secret Service agent and a federal investigator. That's what we do. I don't know jack squat about it. Joe came over to my house one time, tried to show me how to do the podcast.

I have no idea what he did. He put some stuff and melded some stuff. And he's like, can you just do this? And I'm like, whatever, Joe. I don't know what you're doing. Thanks for coming down, though. But he did his best. I have no idea what Joe does, okay?

It is not your fault that a lot of people don't really have an idea about how the justice system works. That's not what you do. I totally understand. Yeah. Right?

A special counsel prosecutor has no special powers. He is simply a prosecutor appointed by the Department of Justice, a special counsel, because they believe there is a conflict within the Department of Justice that can't be handled using a regular attorney for the government. That's it. Now, you may say, well, there are conflicts here because they're investigating the DOJ. I agree. But those conflicts, unless you can show me they haven't led to action in the past, I don't think they're disqualifying.

We've already got rid of McCabe and Contreras. They're already investigating and booting people out in the DOJ. What evidence do you have that the DOj is not in fact looking deeply into this a second special counsel appointed now would clog up the entire operation that is ongoing now to out these people and they would effectively have to start over from scratch now the guy that's been appointed, his name came out yesterday. He's been there for a while, by the way. This isn't new.

The guy's name is John Huber, who is the United States attorney in Utah. Now keep in mind, Sessions did not say at any point he'd foreclosed on the opportunity for a special counsel. That's not what he said, Joe. He said no special counsel now. Why?

Because he already has a guy looking into this. The guy, I'm not explaining this right, and it's really upsetting me. A prosecutor for the government, a lawyer for the government is known as an AUSA, an assistant United States attorney, or the United States attorney, the one who actually runs the office. They are attorneys for the United States. If you are a federal agent like Horowitz, the inspector general who is looking into all of this, who has uncovered all of these dirty

dealings, he is essentially the internal affairs agent for the government. Horowitz has no charging authority at all. None. When I was a federal agent, I could investigate Joe Armacost till the cows come home. If an AUSA, an assistant United States attorney for the government, says, I am not charging Joe, you know what happens to Joe? Nothing.

Zippo. Federal agents like Horowitz are investigators. They have no, zero, zero prosecutorial authority at all. Joe, do you wonder? Am I being crystal clear on this? Yeah, and I didn't know that. None. A federal agent has, this is the whole

beef behind the jim comey exoneration speech with hillary clinton yeah yeah jim comey is in charge of an investigative agency not a prosecutorial one that was the entire beef by conservatives and everyone else about jim comey's speech. Jim Comey had absolutely zero authority as an FBI director, zero, folks, to make a prosecutorial decision on Hillary Clinton. None. He is not a prosecutor. He is an investigator.

I can't tell you how many times as an investigator I brought a case to the ausa's office the prosecutors the assistant united states attorneys yeah that i thought joe was a slam dunk one in particular i thought was a gold mine of other bad guys in our area when i was in new york and they said sorry we're not interested. And you know what happened? Nothing. Now, one guy brought to the locals, because you can always bring it to this member, the federal government in the state are two entirely different entities. Matter of fact, so are the local governments. So one of the things in the Secret Service we do is if you brought it to the prosecutor's office, the federal, you know, the Eastern District of New York, in our case, in the USA's office.

One of the things if they said no, you could do is you could bring it to the state police. If the New York State Police, when I was in the New York field office in the Secret Service, if they said no, then you could bring it to the NYPD. And chances are, Joe, one of them would take the case if it was a good one.

And in many cases, that's what happened. But in many cases, you know what happens? Nothing. The NYPD says, Joe, not interested. I was kind of... Forget about it. Forget about it. Right, right.

Forget about it. We're not worried. Forget about it. We got to get that Donnie Brasco drop. Anybody out there pull that for us? We'd appreciate it. Forget about it. Forget about it.

We need that just to have on cue. And nothing happens to the bad guy. Yes, folks, bad guys get away with bad stuff all the time. Yeah. It is critical. This is really important. I'm not being long-winded about this accidentally. This is at the entire core of the criticism of Sessions.

I think a lot of folks just don't understand what their role is. I agree with you. Now, appointed Huber, who is a prosecutor, he is a United States attorney who has prosecutorial prosecuting powers that the internal affairs investigator Horowitz does not have. or Horowitz does not have, appointing him to work with Horowitz is unbelievably damning to all of the co-conspirators in this case. Folks, there's already a guy working in tandem with an internal affairs investigator

who has already recommended the termination of Andy McCabe at the FBI, who was a central figure in this. There's already a lawyer working with him. What does that tell you? Think it through. Take a second here. Why would Sessions feel the need to assign a government attorney to an investigator?

You think the investigator found something oh yeah you think they may have found some stuff there you think they may want smell something going on there i think we need a government attorney hey jeff you got one matter of fact i do i got a guy from utah here old johnny huber folks this is already going on sessions made in my opinion a brilliant move I think the criticism of him is entirely, completely unwarranted. I will bet my professional reputation on this. I don't know this guy. That the criticism is based in just a lack of understanding about what is going on.

Huber is already there, meaning they needed someone to drop charges. The investigator cannot do it. He can recommend them. He can write up a complaint, an information, a charging document. He cannot charge no matter what. not charge no matter what. The fact that there is a government lawyer already working with him says to me something is rotten in the state of Denmark. This is very, very, very bad for Jim Comey and Andy McCabe. You do not assign a government prosecutor and a lawyer for the government to a case that has no chance of actual charges. I just told you that. I walked in with open and shut cases. Folks, I'm not kidding.

Cases where I had Joe Armacost on tape committing felonious mopery. Damn. And again, I got him. And I said, Mr. U.S. Attorney, look at this. It's a tape. Armacost. Filoni Smopri. Sorry. A lot of times it was just they were bogged down. They had too many cases and not enough lawyers. It would happen all the time. You do not waste a government lawyer and dedicate him exclusively to an internal affairs investigation if there isn't a damn charge there. People are going down.

I'm telling you, just hang in there. Hang in there. I don't want you, yeah, go ahead. And that's why you said that you don't think they're finished with McCabe yet. They are absolutely not finished with McCabe. Okay, we're making a headway here. I got you. McCabe, remember, we're making a headway here. I got you. McCabe, remember, another thing.

The administrative procedure for removing someone from the FBI is not the same as a criminal procedure. I believe they waited on McCabe for a reason. If you listened to one of my

earlier shows, and again, forgive me, I don't have the exact number. We have a small staff here. We keep the operation lean to keep it cheap. We don't want to run 6,000 ads per show, okay? We do. That's why we keep the show lean. It gets expensive when you have as many listeners as we do.

Seriously, folks, the process for removing Andy McCabe is different than the criminal one. Administratively, why would you keep Andrew McCabe, the number two at the FBI, who's intimately involved in all of this, the Hillary email investigation, the spying on of the Trump team, the FISA abuse, the Mike Flynn,

the disingenuous prosecution. Joe, why would you keep him on of the trump team the pfizer abuse the mike flynn the disingenuous prosecution joe why would you keep him on to the fbi in the fbi till the last minute possible well you might want to have some interagency um questioning to do with him yeah yes you pay attention to the show thank god sometimes i'm worried i'm like did he hear me when i said that i wasn't hinting him yes because when andy mccabe is still in the fbi which he wasn't till the last minute right administrators from the fbi and internal affairs people in the fbi and professional responsibility folks in the fbi who look over malfeasance in the FBI and misfeasance can bring Andy McCabe in and say Andy you better start talking pal and you better start talking now you may say oh doesn't he have the right to the fifth amendment right to say to not self-incriminate uh no no because it's not a criminal proceeding boom it's an administrative one there are no criminal

charges now to be clear they can't beat a confession out of them mccabe may say hey go pound sand i'm not telling you anything you know what the fbi says donald trump said this to a lot of people on the apprentice you're fired You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Oh, he was fired? Oh, so what I'm telling you is true. Folks, they had to keep him on. They needed information.

If they had fired Andy McCabe earlier, Andy McCabe then, there's nothing to hold over his head they had his job hanging in the hanging and sitting there right in front of him it was like a sword of damocles moment there right they had his job andy you better talk you're gonna lose your job and he had a talk the minute he gets fired now he does what joe i fifth. Yeah. Because the rest of it's going to be criminal. And why is it going to be criminal? Because we already have a prosecutor assigned. Why would they do that? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. It really, the bells are going,

it's making a lot of sense. Oh, gosh, I got so much. I love it, by the way, that we have a hypercritical, thinking intellectual audience. Your emails don't bother me one bit. I don't mean to come off like some condescending jerk here at all. I'm not.

I deeply appreciate the fact that nobody in my audience takes anything I say at face value. I do. That sounds like the most ridiculous thing ever. No. Listen, I'm not an X-Files guy, but trust nobody. I don't even trust my own sources unless they back it up two and three times and unless they have a track record of what telling me stuff that's true. I won't embarrass you or myself on the air by saying dumb stuff.

But you should double and triple check too. And I'm glad you guys were like, oh, look, look what happened with Sessions. Dan, you may have been off telling us to take it easy. Don't give up. Let me make one final point on this because I didn't want to spend that much time on this, but this is an important story. This was a brilliant move by Sessions

appointing this guy Huber. Now, I know it. There are people right now cringing. Oh, what do you mean, Dan? This was an Obama holdover. So was Horowitz. So was Horowitz, the OIG. By the way, the guy who's been exposing this entire debacle, Spygate, Pfizergate, Clinton email gate. Oh the Utah guy. He has no connection there to the Beltway

dynamic at all. And an Obama holdover. Why do you think that would matter? Maybe because when this guy drops the atomic bomb of prosecutorial charges on all of the imbeciles involved in the spying case, it automatically decapitates the Democrats' instantaneous line of attack, which is going to be, oh, these are partisan. Really? He was an Obama guy. How do you figure that out? By the way, it was an Obama guy that investigated the case and an Obama guy that prosecuted.

How'd that work out? Joe, hold on. Head scratcher. How'd that work out for you? Folks, don't play checkers while they're playing chess. They know exactly what they're doing. Let me just leave it with this. Take it easy. It'll all be okay.

All right, I got some more stuff to get to. It's a busy news day. I don't want to leave you on the weekend. Yeah, that was a good segment. Joe's giving me the heads. I like that one too. But I, you know, I do like, I do list read your viewer.

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anymore and we'll never uh do cnn again um but tubin was never i used to see him in the green room and he was always a relatively pleasant guy um But he said something yesterday that was so dumb, I'm sorry, that I had to call it out. So I sent this to Joe this morning. It's a quick cut, but it's taking a shot at you for basically asking perfectly valid questions about what the hell went on with Spygate, Pfizergate, and Hillarygate. Play that cut.

No, as far as I could tell, most of the accusations against the FBI are lunatic conspiracy theories, just not grounded in anything. And and I think the attorney general did an appropriate thing here, giving, you know, giving this to the inspector general. That's why we have inspector generals. But I expect there will be nothing found here. And I think Sessions did the right thing. okay um so it was a lunatic conspiracy so mccabe was fired andy mccabe the number two at the fbi for his role in pfizer gate the clinton email investigation probably for the flynn's mike flynn uh debacle as well where they prosecuted him for

false statements he didn't make fascinating he was fired by the Office of Professional Responsibility of the FBI. And we're all making this up, Joe. Do you got Meadows cut? Yeah, man. Now, here's Mark Meadows, a solid Republican congressman from North Carolina, on Laura Ingraham's show last night, responding about the conspiracy. Remember, let's be clear what's been said, Joe.

These are conspiracy theories. They're not based in facts. We're making this all up. Here's Meadows with a a very good dispassionate response about what the facts actually are and i challenge our liberal listeners tell me where meadows is wrong well i mean when you look at the facts the facts speak for themselves laura when when we're looking at is it a material fact that peter struck had a relationship with a FISA judge and they concealed it? The answer is yes. Is it a fact? And we now know that the investigation into Donald Trump started late July. Within seven days, there was a meeting with the Department of Justice where they said the White House is leading this. What? OK, Jeffrey Toobin from CNN. What part of that's not true?

I'm going to be getting into this on Levin tonight because I'm getting tired of this stuff. But what part of what Mark Meadows just said is untrue? We know from the text they concealed their relationship with a FISA judge. We know the FISA judge was, in fact, the FISA judge who took a plea from a guy, Mike Flynn, intimately involved in this case. We know the FBI themselves had said they thought Mike Flynn was truthful, yet prosecuted him anyway using the special counsel.

We also know Hillary had an email server. We know Hillary's 30,000 emails are missing. We know Andy McCabe's wife took $700,000 from Democrats associated with Hillary Clinton to run for office as a Democrat. We know Andy McCabe failed to recuse himself until a month out from the election. We know Jim Comey had a counterintelligence investigation going on against Donald Trump and refused to tell Congress about it despite his obligation to notify oversight committees. He refused to tell them about it for months.

He hid it from them. We know that. We know Jim Comey said that the dossier that the FBI Jim Comey had used was, quote, salacious and unverified, yet they used it to spy on potentially innocent Americans. Jeffrey, challenge one part of what I just said. One part. You've seen Hillary's 30,000 missing emails? The texts from Stroke and Page are made up? The allegations by Jim Comey that the dossier was salacious and unverified? Jim Comey, you're saying he didn't say that? Better fact, Jeff Toobin, they spied on an innocent American using a court reserved for terrorists, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, and hostile foreign agents,

and yet you can't verify a single fact in there outside of Carter Page's trip to Moscow. You can't verify one single fact they used to do that to spy on them. Jeffrey, email me. DM me on Twitter. I'm at DBongino. I will correct myself on the air if challenged any of those things. Verify it.

Oh, they didn't go through the Woods procedure, by the way? The procedure to verify? The procedure set up in conjunction with Bob Mueller, who's now the special counsel investigation? Oh, by the way, one of the guys who had a sign off on the information as being verified before they submitted it to the FISA court? Was John Carlin at the DOJ National Security Division? Who, oh, by the way, was Bob Mueller's former chief of staff? Oh, man, that's crazy how all this stuff goes down.

Challenge any of that, Jeff. Am I wrong? What am I wrong on? But yes, it's all conspiracy theories. You see, this is what the left does. What annoys me, because I thought this guy was a nice guy, and he may be, but he clearly has no idea what he's talking about in this case. He should be embarrassed putting that on the air.

Horrified. He should go on the air tomorrow and renounce everything he said and never speak publicly about this case again until he actually does his homework, because he's humiliating himself. Conspiracy. This is what the left does, Joe. Yeah, man. In order to avoid and marginalize any

voice that exposes the nastiness that happened behind the curtain spygate hillary gate and pfizer gate what do they do they marginalize you all by saying hey look at you all conspiracy theorists bunch of wackos out there really we're. We're crazy. Tell me anything I said that was false. Insane. Totally. That stuff just really pisses me off. All right. You know what?

This is an important story. I have to get to this. I'm always debating what's more important, especially on a Friday show, because I know I won't see you on Monday, unless you listen to Levin tonight. And you can check me out on nratv.com which i always appreciate my show is live at 5 30 p.m every night live eastern time 5 30 p you can watch it on nratv.com apple tv you can watch it on amazon fire you can watch it on roku so please check it out the viewership's been great we're getting a lot of good feedback i appreciate that um this is a kim strassel has a really wonderful

piece uh in the uh by the way a lot of these a lot of this stuff will be at the show notes today describing what i just talked about at bungie.com but strassel has a really good piece today in the wall street journal that again it's subscriber only uh but it is a terrific opinion piece and i did not see this coming folks but it's imperative that I put the information out there because I think it's genius we had a conversation at the beginning of the week Joe and on Friday about the omnibus bill the signing of the budget which listen again was a disaster was a disaster it was not chess versus checkers it was a mess now the bad news yes the budget bill the republicans put out there

the democrats pushed and trump signed was a mess that's the bad news just accept it it was a mess the good news is trump knows it was a mess as i said to you on monday's show trump has recognized he got screwed over he knows he got bad advice on this and i believe he is absolutely committed to what he said in the press conference signing it joe to never sign a crap bill like this again now strassel's getting some wind at the hill that even congress now joe even the republican swamp rat dogs up in congress and there's some good guys up there you know you got uh jim jordan and house freedom caucus you got some decent guys but a lot of them are just swamp rats. Swamp dogs. They'll

spend whatever they can to get reelected. They don't really care. Conservative principles go out the window, but even some of them are starting to realize, Joe, that omnibus pill was a real pig, and they're in a lot of trouble. Ruh-roh. Ruh-roh is right. Shaggy. Folks,

this is why your voice matters, this is why i i get a little upset when people email me and say i'm done i'm giving up you know i get it i've been there too i know the depths of despair when you've been sold out so many times you're like i can't take the selling out anymore and monday and tuesday i got a lot of emails from MAGA folks, Trump folks, conservatives, libertarians, non-Trump folks saying, I'm done. The non-Trump folks were upset at the Republicans. The Trump folks were upset at Trump. And I was trying to tell you in the following shows, you can't give up because the left never does that. The left loses and they double down the next time. The left lost gun control legislation and Obama only to come back and try to redo it under Trump.

They never give up. You can't either. This is all about the fight, folks. Sacrifice matters. As Jordan Peterson says all the time, really loving this guy, his book, by the way, 12 Rules for Living is just transformative. In Peterson's book, he makes a great point, Joe. You're not here to be happy. If you think that, the irony of you believing you're here to be happy is it's going to lead to sadness. You are here to build character in the face of suffering. That is a absolutely brilliant, mind-blowing analysis

that if there's one life lesson you ever take from anyone, take that. Now, it's something we've hit on on the show before when I referenced the quote by Bernard Malamud, the author of the book, The Natural, made into a movie with Robert Redford, where he has one of the greatest lines ever. You know, the path to true happiness is through suffering.

Because we all live two lives. The one we learn from and the one we live after that. And it's the one you live after that that matters. We are here to suck it up and build character in times of deep despair.

Monday was bad. We basically signed our financial death warrant for the next few years. Well, a year to be exact, but still it was a ridiculous amount of money. Here's the good news. Your voice, your collective voice in speaking up,

your collective negative energy displayed towards them, your calls, your emails to the members, your blog posts, all of this has had an effect. There's a whisper up on the hill right now, and it's just a whisper, but folks, this is brilliant, is to pull a 1974, the year I was born, act out of the air and use something that hasn't been used before to not spend some of the money that's already been budgeted.

It's called the 1974 Impoundment Act. Yeah, I know. Listen, I pride myself on knowing what I'm talking about. I read this one by Strassel and I was like, never heard of it. Matter of fact, I've got pretty good sources up on the Hill. I didn't even hear this was going on. But she has great sources up there. And here what it does joe this is genius if they if republicans if you pull this off you will have not my undying support but you will have earned

back a little bit of respect from the mound of respect you lost if you pull this off it'll be genius here's what it does joe it allows for the rescission of funds approved by congress already as long as it's done within 45 days and here's the kicker congress and the senate can approve it with simple majorities what does that mean oh it means yes we agreed to spend there was an orgy of spending in this omnibus bill and it was a total disaster. Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans, who hold majorities in the Senate and the House, if they can whip the caucus together and get them to vote unanimously,

especially on the Senate side, they can afford to lose a few on the House. If they get them to vote unanimously, they can say, we're not going to spend 10 billion there, and by the way, we're not going to spend 10 billionaire and by the way we're not going to spend that 20 billionaire and we're not going to spend that 50 billionaire and we're not going to spend that 100 billionaire it would be the greatest pre-midterm election coup ever as long as it's not bs don't do it and make it five hundred thousand dollars of money um that was supposed to go to uh

you know shrimp running on a treadmill study in washington dc make it real put some teeth in it i know you listen you know i know that you listen and you know what i'm talking about the other you're like what the hell you even joe's probably what is he talking about but But you who I'm talking to, you know who you are. You know I know you listen, and you know how I know it. You got whack up there. Get your asses on this right now. Start cutting big, huge chunks of this orgy of federal spending now.

The clock is ticking. You got 45 days. Now, I know what you're thinking, Joe. You're thinking, this is genius. Why haven't Republicans done this before? I am thinking that. Well, Reagan has. But Congress has to approve it.

And sadly, since 1974, according to Strassel's piece, only $25 billion, which is nothing. It's squat, has been cut in federal spending. $25 billion is nothing in the federal budget. Sadly, it should be something, but it's not because we spend so much. And it was largely done by Reagan. And Strassel makes a good point. The reason Obama never used it is because Obama loves government spending.

Obama's spending a hell of a lot of anything. Obama'll spend money on spending money. He'll be like like i think we need a study on how to spend more money can we spend money on that that would be obama right and can we spend money on the study to spend money on how to spend money and how about we advertise to the public using government money that we're conducting a study on a study on how to spend more money that would be obama but bush never used it either because i'm not i'll be honest with you i'm not a huge fan of bush i one i think he didn't really care much about government spending anyway but secondly at least as to the degree he should have but secondly they say bush believed in the line item veto that is not, that at this point is not legal for them to use.

They would need an amendment for that. And he just refused to use it. But it has been used. Simple majority. Now, a couple caution signs here. It is going to require one thing, Joe, and you may be thinking this and the audience may be thinking this too.

Well, Dan, if they do that, they're going to have to admit some fault. Why? Because how do you rescind payments using taxpayers that you already agreed to? At some point, you're going to have to say that's like Joe, you know, signing some contract with his buddy to spend a bunch of money on his property and then saying later on hey i spent all this money it was a mistake can we redo the contract you're gonna have to acknowledge legally it was a mistake yeah the fear here is that before the midterms if they fail and if you do, you better damn well do it, Republicans.

You know, you, you're listening. You better damn well get it done. Don't even think about proposing this if you were going to lose your cojones at the last minute. Because if you fail again, forget it. You think it's over now. It is over, Johnny Karate Kid style. Sweep the knee. It will be over.

Utah, give me two. Two failures in a row will be devastating. If you're going to do it, you better damn well do it and get it done. But you are going to have to acknowledge it was an orgy of spending. Now, don't give the Democrats a pass either. They love it. But you are going to have to acknowledge on your side that it was a mistake. And that's okay. A lot of Republican voters, not all, and I understand people who aren't willing to forgive it. They've been burned too many times. I get it. But a lot of Republican

and conservative voters are willing to forgive if you do the right thing and you give them a reason to forgive. You go in there. You do it. You get it done and you make it serious. Don't give us a billion dollars on a shrimp study. I want to see big, huge chunks of government spending out the door. And you may gain back some loyalty. It's a great piece.

Again, it's in the Wall Street Journal. It's by Kim Strassel. You know what? If I include it in the show notes, I know I'm going to get a thousand emails saying we couldn't open the piece. Just look it up. Sometimes they let the firewall go down

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Let's do a time check here. Ah, we're good. I love seeing that. So I'm going to hammer through these two final stories quick because they're super important. Great, great great piece in the washington examiner today super short very readable about the deviousness of obamacare and how every time i tell you that they they drew up they if obamacare was a highway they They blocked off every single exit ramp. You don't have to respect the Democrats. You don't have to like the Democrats.

But you better fear their deviousness because they drew this thing up to prevent any free market interference in Obamacare at all. A piece in the Washington Examiner today. Must read. It'll be at the show notes, Bongino.com. And of course, if you subscribe to my email list, I'll send it right to you. The title of the piece is like the dream team for healthcare, a path to fix our healthcare system. Some people email me a lot and say, Dan, you don't propose enough solutions. Fair enough. I'm giving you one now. This article is super short and it says, if we had this, Joe,

these two things, I'm giving you the two sign. You see it? Oh yeah. If we had catastrophic healthcare plans, in other words, it covers cancer, you know, HIV, hepatitis, car accidents, serious hospitalization, but left out management, you know, you know, typical like body management stuff, checkups, flu season, that kind of, well, flu can be serious. I don't mean to minimize it, but you know, coughs and colds and that kind of stuff. And that was out of pocket. So you were covered in the event of a healthcare catastrophe. Yeah. Flu, I shouldn't minimize that seriously. Cause that could be really deadly. But you know, coughs and colds, basic healthcare, getting an eye exam, weight check, you know, you got a little stomach, a stomach, a stomach virus or whatever it is.

You go to the hospital, that stuff would be kind of out of pocket. But catastrophic healthcare insurance, combine that with HSAs, health savings accounts, tax-free money you can put into an account you don't have to pay taxes on, that would accumulate but can be spent only on those out-of-pocket costs. Folks, ding, ding, ding,

we would have a solution for this tomorrow. Why? Because the catastrophic plan would force people to spend their own money on healthcare for regular maintenance, which would eliminate what? The third-party payer effect. The third-party payer effect

is what's driving up healthcare costs. A third-party payer effect, for those of you unfamiliar with the term, if Joe goes to the doctor, there are two people involved in that. Person number one is Joe. Person number two is the doctor. Joe agrees to pay a price.

The doctor agrees to charge a price. If they don't agree on that price, Joe doesn't pay it. When you introduce a third party in economics, you have a third-party payer effect. If Joe pays taxes to the government, whether he goes to the doctor or not, and then the government pays Joe's doctor, Joe doesn't care about the price. Why? Because Joe's already paid the money to the government,

whether he goes to the doctor or not. He didn't give a crap about the price. The doctor also, no offense to the doctor, wants to charge as much as he can. Why? Because there's no restraint on the doctor because he knows the patient's not paying he tries to get as much from the government as he can third-party payer effects are single-handedly the largest contributor to the explosion in college costs and medical payments and health care costs in the country without a doubt in my mind you introduce catastrophic insurance again and all of a sudden people go to the doctor for whatever, colds and stomach aches and headaches and things like that. And if it's not catastrophic, they pay out of pocket and say, hey, Dr. Joe, that's a little too much.

I'm not going to pay $500 for you to swab my tongue. No thanks. I'm going to go to a different doctor. That model has only worked everywhere in human history to reduce the price of everything from contact lenses to flat screen TVs. It's only worked everywhere. It has 100% success rate. Okay. It's part number two of that.

The health savings accounts. Remember, there are four ways to spend money. As Milton Friedman said, you can spend money on yourself. Government can spend. It's you can spend money on yourself. You can spend money on other people. Other people can spend other people's money and other people. Other people can spend other people's money in themselves. That's the four ways to spend money on yourself. You can spend money on other people. Other people can spend other people's money on other people.

Other people can spend other people's money on themselves. That's the four ways to spend money. The most efficient way to spend money because cost and quality matter is you spending your own money on yourself. When you spend money on yourself, the cost of the product matters because it's your money

and the quality of the product matters because you're spending it on yourself. You're buying something on yourself. You're buying something for yourself. If you get an HSA and you were spending your own money on doctor and hospital care, the cost of the care would matter, but the quality would matter too. So it's kind of related to the third party pay effect. This would reduce the effect of the explosion in healthcare costs. Now, Obamacare, read this piece. Let me just read to you quickly from the piece because it shows you how devious they were in preventing catastrophic healthcare costs and health care costs. Now, Obamacare, read this piece. Let me just read to you quickly from the piece because it shows you how devious they were

in preventing catastrophic health care costs and health savings accounts from reducing the cost of medicine because they don't want that. Now, you may say, why, Dan? Why did Obamacare close off all the off-ramps to Obamacare and make sure the government had a role in overseeing all of this?

Because liberals want the government to control everything. It's always been about control. So he says, this is Obamacare. The Internal Revenue Code allows only those, this is pursuant to Obamacare, allows only those covered by a high deductible health plan to contribute to an HSA.

Catastrophic plans, given their high deductibles, should qualify as high deductible health plans, but the ACA, Obamacare, ensures that they do not. To qualify as a, quote, high deductible, regular plans must not cover any care except preventative care before payment of the deductible. It gets easy to understand in a second here. But Obamacare basically requires also requires catastrophic health plans joe to cover at least three primary care visits before reaching the deductible why

would they put that in there joe oh here's why because this requirement prevents any catastrophic plan from qualifying as a high deductible health plan and prevents those in said catastrophic plans from contributing to a health savings account. Genius! Genius! Genius. You don't have to like it. I surely don't. But the Democrats are genius. They made sure the free market

did not get involved at all in their takeover of the government health care plan. Unbelievable stuff. Read the piece. It's damning. It walks through slowly how exactly, short, sweet, but exactly how the Democrats anticipated any kind of free market intervention to reduce health care costs, Joe, and intercepted the football through Obamacare. still talking about it because it speaks to the utter stupidity of Democrats for passing it, but the genius at the same time of engaging in a system of government control, doing it slowly and preventing any off-ramp from it. Just incredible. Hey, one more thing with regards

to yesterday's show. I appreciate the feedback. I got a tremendous number of downloads, by the way. The economic section in the beginning I know was a bit long, and I know sometimes I do a better job of summing up analogies, but it was a very complicated topic on trade deficits, sound money, the gold standard, how these are all interrelated. Even at one point, I know, Joe, you may have gotten

it because you've heard it a lot, but I got some feedback from people like, you know what, Dan, that's the first time I had to listen twice and three times, which I understand, but it's a really complicated topic. And I don't want to do, you're a smart audience. I'm not going to do dumb stuff for you. I'm sorry. We dance here when it comes to activism,

but we don't dance like entertain. I don't dance, okay? This is not an entertainment show. I'm sorry. I'm glad that Joe's funny and we have a lot of drops. We try to keep it somewhat sarcastic to lighten the mood. But this is a serious show about serious topics.

And there was an interesting piece today kind of hammering home some of the points I took yesterday. This will be, I promise, a lot shorter than yesterday. But there's a piece about how the British, the British, basically their central bank,

is claiming success for their money printing regimen. And I explained to you yesterday how the printing of money doesn't hurt the united states like it would hurt other countries because our money even though we keep printing and printing and printing should be almost worthless at this point constantly gets scooped up by foreign governments because it is the global standard for currency right so we have a lot of leeway other countries don't so we have a lot of leeway other countries don't the british are getting screwed over right now because their pensions are going bankrupt in mass and there's a big controversy about a company in

britain that has some historical ties to the war that there's there's obviously some sentimentality joe and they're going out of business because they can't afford the pensions and why folks this is easily explainable when you print a bunch of money, what happens? Eventually, it finds its way into the stock market like it did in the United States under the Obama years. And to be fair, Obama was not in charge of the Federal Reserve, although he loved the printing policy. We printed a lot of money in the Obama years, and it made its way into the stock market and overinflated stock prices. Now, you may say, well, how does that hurt pension funds? Pension funds are invested in stocks, and stocks went up. Oh, yeah, they did. By the way, eventually, those bubbles say, well, how does that hurt pension funds? Pension funds are invested in stocks, and stocks went up.

Oh, yeah, they did. By the way, eventually those bubbles burst. Oh, we've only seen that, what, 10 years ago? That'll happen again, sadly. But it did temporarily drive up stocks. But at the same time, folks, it drove down interest rates because it made money easier to find like i said yesterday and by decreasing interest rates what did it also do to those same pensions

it decreased those pensions expected rate of returns in the future in other words if you print a lot of money and make it easier to find interest rates go down the interest rates to cost the money a loan at five percent is more expensive than a loan at one percent you print a lot of money you make it easier to find. Interest rates go down. It's not complicated. But when interest rates go down, what happens? If you're managing a pension plan for Joe Armacost

and you're investing $100 expecting it to grow at 8%, Joe, and interest rates are now 4%, you got some problems. You got some splaining to do. So these pensions are going bankrupt because they didn't put aside enough money. They said, damn, I thought it was going to grow at eight. Now it's only growing at one. That's a lot of money to make up. What else is happening? Dividends aren't being paid. Dividends aren't being paid by companies. Dividends who benefit what? Pension holders.

Dividends aren't being paid and investment in the company and the workers aren't being paid by companies. Dividends who benefit what? Pension holders. Dividends aren't being paid and investment in the company and the workers aren't being paid. Well, why is that? Because the companies don't have any money. Because where's it going? It's going into the pension funds to make up for all the lost interest they didn't make because of the low interest rates. So now the same pension funds are, oh yeah, look, we benefited from the stock market. Yeah, but you're getting no dividends and the company isn't investing in itself and has no future. Hey, nice job. Yeah, you guys, loose money people, you really got this system down. Interesting piece. It was in the Wall Street Journal today. It's kind of complicated. I'm

not going to put it in the show notes, but to be fair here, let me read to you. It's by Joseph C. Sternberg and the title is Britain's Monetary Stimulus Has Fed the Pension Crisis. Really good piece. If you're a subscriber, go check that out. But definitely, definitely check out the show notes at a minimum for this Washington Examiner piece on Obamacare. It is a killer. It's so good. All right, folks, thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it. Please go to Bongino.com, check out the show notes, and I will see you all on Monday and on Levin tonight if you tune in. you just heard the Dan Bongino show. Get more of Dan online.

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