The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 704 A Bombshell Interview You Must Hear
Episode Date: April 23, 2018Summary: Today’s edition of liberal myth-busting: “Do Citizens of Countries With Socialized Medicine Live Longer?” In this episode I address the multiple bombshells in Maria Bartiromo�...�s weekend interview with Devin Nunes about the Russia investigation. I also discuss the Left’s hooliganism and attacks on a country singer and a conservative woman. News Picks: This is a must-see interview that questions the entire premise of the Russia investigation. Here’s video of my fiery debate with a Clinton acolyte and mouthpiece. The Southern Poverty Law Center blinks in response to a lawsuit. A major setback for Mitt Romney in Utah. This story is bigger than Kanye West. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today
man what a news week coming up yeah listen folks ladies chets we are stacked whoa stacked today
i got sound i got cuts it. It's going to be,
I don't usually do a lot of sound during my show
because, you know,
I just like to talk a lot, I guess.
But we have a lot of sound for you today.
Some really, really good stuff.
Bombshell.
Bombshell interview with Devin Nunes
this weekend by Maria Bartiromo.
Great job from Fox Business.
Yeah, Maria.
Yeah, Maria.
Man, this interview has so many nuggets in it. so I'm going to break it down for you.
And I also want to play, I hate doing this, but I also want to play some audio and video,
well, audio in this case, only an audio show, of me debating Felipe Reines, a Clinton bootlicker,
who could not answer a simple question.
A simple question.
He couldn't answer a simple question. This is question. I couldn't answer a simple question.
This is priceless.
I know.
I hate it.
It's my show.
Playing your own audio is always kind of weird and dopey, but this is a good one, I
promise.
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i had to put my notes here now we know now we know why the fbi not a knock on the agents but
a knock on the management that decided to engage in a spying operation against the trump team
now we know why they were hiding the ec what's the ec if you listen you listened to the show last week, the EC is the electronic communication.
In other words, folks,
there is a document in the FBI,
they call it EC,
that would be an electronic file
of basically why they started an investigation.
So just to sum that up,
if I was starting a counterintelligence investigation
against Joe Armacost
because I thought he was guilty of
terrorist-like felonious mopery,
there would
be a record of why the information that started that investigation in this EC.
The EC for the investigation into Donald Trump has been a source of severe consternation
for the FBI.
They do not want to give this thing up.
Well, they finally did.
And Devin Nunes, the Republican congressman who has been ferociously, thank God for Devin
Nunes, looking into this investigation, the spying operation that the Trumps sought.
Ladies and gentlemen, he gave an interview this weekend to Maria Bartiromo that if you have ever
seen an interview that was just mind-blowing, this was it. I watched it live. I watched it
again online. I watched it probably four or five times and cut it up watched it live i watched it uh again online i watched it probably
four or five times and cut it up into pieces for jay sent it to joe this weekend i rarely do that
i said brother we need this for monday morning this is amazing now just to set this up
nunez nunez comes on to talk about the ec and what he saw in other words why the government
was spying on Trump.
Now, folks, if you're listening to this, you're thinking that this EC, this document, in other words, why we were spying on the Trump team is going to be filled with explosive intelligence.
Right.
I mean, Joe, is anything I'm saying controversial?
Right.
If I'm spying on you, Joe, and you were running for president, later elected president. And there's a document out there
that lays out why I'm doing it.
Common sense would dictate that there are going to be
bullet points in here, Joe, that are going to be like,
I saw Joe Armacost meeting
with a Russian spy. I saw them exchanging
money. I have evidence
of bank accounts that have been open.
I have evidence that the Hillary Clinton
emails that were stolen
were stolen by the Russians and they were given to the Trump team.
I have all this.
Nail me to the wall.
You got it.
Nail that sucker to everybody.
So why were they hiding it?
OK, play cut one.
The counterintelligence investigation uses the tools of our intelligence services that are not supposed to be used on American citizens.
So we've long wanted to know, well what intelligence did you have that actually
led to this investigation? So what we found now after the investigators have
reviewed it is that in fact there was no intelligence. So we have a traditional, we
have a traditional partnership with what's called the Five Eyes Agreement. Five Eyes
Agreement involves our friends in Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, and of course
us. So long time process and procedures in place where we move intelligence across. We are not
supposed to spy on each other's citizens. And it's worked well. And it continues to work well.
And we know it's working well because there was no intelligence that passed from Five Eyes through the Five
Eyes channels to our government and that's why we had to see that original
communication so now we're trying to figure out as you know we are
investigating the State Department we think there's some major irregularities
at the State Department and we're trying to figure out how it is that this information about Mr. Papadopoulos of all people, who
was supposedly meeting with some folks in London, how that made it over across into
the FBI's hands.
We know a little bit about that because of what some of the State Department officials
themselves have said about that.
So we were glad to get this behind us.
But now, of course, as we peel another piece back,
it leaves more unanswered questions, which we're trying to get to the bottom of.
Wait, what?
Do you understand what you just heard?
I did Fox & Friends this morning at 6.30 a.m. Eastern Time
about this specific hit.
And I begged the audience,
if there's one thing you need to watch today,
it's this interview.
By the way, here's what's crazy, Joe.
That's just the beginning.
Even Joe sent me back an email.
He goes, man, this is good audio.
Now, the link to that entire interview
will be at my website, Bongino.com, and in the show notes today.
If you subscribe to my email list, which I humbly implore you to do, I will email it to you.
I think it's a second story down.
It's a Fox Business link.
I encourage you to watch the whole thing, although I do have more.
I took some, here's some notes on this.
That one answer, there were some nuclear explosions in there number one he talks about
this is the biggest one that he saw the document that started the investigation of the trump and
it was no intelligence none uh wait what so let me get this straight here now folks let me be crystal clear you can be a liberal
listening to this and i know we have liberal listeners our buddy richard who will email me
a nasty email today i'm sure he does usually twice a week always appreciate it lightens up my day
make no mistake if you think nunes is lying you're out of your mind because joe once this ec is
released nunes would be making a fool of
himself if what he's telling you is in this document that started the trump case isn't there
right does that make sense this is not a partisan document this is not a political document
this is an fbi document about an investigation that was started this is not open to interpretation
i have no reason to believe
whatsoever Nunes is even remotely
misleading us. I acknowledge he's a Republican.
So am I.
But if your take on this is going to be
he's making this up, you are going to be sorely
disappointed.
First, he says there was no intelligence
in there. Wait, come again?
So they started
an investigation into the Trump team. They documented
their reasons. And in those reasons, there's no formal declarations of negative intelligence
whatsoever. Then he mentioned something else. And if you're a regular listener to the show,
none of this will be surprising to you. As I've said to you over and over and over again,
the biggest bombshell in this entire case
is the fact that people in the United Kingdom, we have yet to find out how exactly, people in the
United Kingdom passed information on to intelligence sources in the United States about Donald Trump.
He mentions this. He talks about the Five Eyes
Channel. Folks, the Five Eyes Channel is a group of cooperating nations, New Zealand, Australia,
the United Kingdom, that supply. We exchange intel amongst those countries because they're
friendlies. But he says in the interview that we have a process and procedure in place to exchange that information.
He's very cryptically saying a few things here, folks.
He then says we also have an agreement not to spy on each other's citizens.
Huh? Why would he say that?
Why would he say that after talking about process and procedure
maybe because someone in one of these five x countries did spy on one of our citizens
that citizen being a member of the donald trump team possibly trump himself
now he says something else. He says that there is no evidence that these Five Eyes channels passed information to the government.
While he also mentions that there's a prohibition on these citizens, on these governments spying on our citizens.
Why would he say that?
Well, because of what he says next, I think it's obvious.
He brings up the state department let
me tie that all in together for you because it'd be unfair because i've been researching
this forever for the book so i kind of know what he was saying what he's saying here and hinting
around to is that state department people with contacts to hillary clinton i'll get to the next
story you'll start to see how this comes together next. Listen to me here. State Department people with contacts to Hillary Clinton were running a diplomatic spying operation, not an intelligence one, likely through diplomatic channels against the Trump team. Think about what I just told you.
Our intelligence agencies, the 17 agencies that comprise the intelligence community, everything from the DEA to the CIA to the NSA to military intel branches.
They are responsible for the gathering of intelligence to assist our president in decision-making. Our president's decision-making, Barack Obama at the time,
was not being run by formal process and procedure
and intelligence channels we have set up, as Nunez spoke about,
through our formal intelligence procedure.
But he hints that the intelligence may have been run
through diplomatic channels at the
State Department. These are not intelligence officers. These are not law enforcement officers.
These are bureaucrats and political appointees who were running a spying operation against the
Trump team. Are you digesting this right now? Do you see what he was hinting at here?
do you do you see what he was hinting at here that the papadopoulos information papadopoulos meets in a london bar with this australian diplomat downer and i have another great piece
from the daily caller about that at the show notes i hope i can get to that too with some more
mind-boggling information nunes is alluding to the fact that the spying operation on Trump may have been a bureaucratic and political one, not an intelligence one.
Now, they were using intelligence tools.
Brennan was pushing this up at the Hill.
They pushed the FBI to open an investigation.
But it was a political one.
It was a political one. It was a political one.
Do you understand the bomb he just dropped on the weekend news?
This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America.
Chairman, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Devin Nunes, says spying
operation on Trump was political or
at least insinuates it.
Folks, it gets worse.
Mr. Chairman, you've got to explain what you just said.
I think this is extraordinary that you're telling us that in order for the FBI, the
Department of Justice to launch an investigation into so-called collusion between President
Trump and the Russians, there was no official intelligence used, then how did this investigation
start?
I don't understand, sir.
Please explain.
Well, I think that is the point.
We don't understand.
We've never understood because, you know, we have access to these finished intelligence products and we've never understood because, you know, we have we have access to these finished intelligence
products and we've never seen one. We had never. So we thought, well, maybe there was one that
went through a different channel that was kept really quiet, that was secret, that was kept from
the Congress and and other folks. Well, in fact, after our investigators reviewed this, that's
that is not what happened there. What there was no five eyes intelligence product as as it's been reported
there was no product and i think that's a major problem because we have to have trust with our
with our partners with our allies we have to make sure that our agencies talk and they work out
problems we have to make sure that they don't spy on on either american citizens or that we're not
spying on british citizens these are all things that have been around for decades. So, and this is even more critical. Let's just, at the highest level,
what is this? What is this about? This was about a counterintelligence investigation that was
at the height of a political campaign where you opened up an investigation using these intelligence services to spy on the other campaign.
It's really serious stuff.
This is the most incredible interview I've ever seen.
Did you see Bartiromo?
Well, did you hear her response?
Bartiromo's response to what the initial question and answer portion of that interview is,
she's astonished at what she's hearing.
Yeah.
So basically, she's like, what you're telling me is I'm taking notes as we go along,
even though I've heard this now four times, because I hear new nuggets in this every single time.
Bartiromo's response is one of utter shock and astonishment.
So, Mr. Chairman, what you're telling me is there was no official intelligence.
Notice the word official.
Official.
Underline it in your head ten times.
There was no official intelligence used to start this investigation into the Trump team?
No.
No, there wasn't.
They have the document. Now you see why, Joe, now you see why the FBI was? No. He said, no, there wasn't. They have the document.
Now you see why, Joe,
now you see why the FBI was hiding this?
Why isn't this the first,
the breaking story on every single news show
across America right now?
Now, if you've been listening to the show since 628,
because we've had excellent sourcing on this,
you already know all this.
But now you can confirm
it, take it to the bank and cash that damn check. Cash it. Cash that check, baby. This thing was
started with no official intelligence. Notice what he says again. You have to be able to translate this from it's not a knock on Nunes. He has to be delicate, but from politician to normal talk. Yeah, seriously, it's not a knock on Nunes. He has to be delicate here or else the Democrats are going to destroy him for being political and you know, which they're going to do anyway, but for not being like an investigator and using the Joe Friday approach.
but for not being like an investigator and using the Joe Friday approach.
He then says, hey, we have to have trust in our foreign counterparts that they're not going to spy on our citizens.
Remember what I told you from portion number one of this, the umbrella 30,000 foot takeaway,
so you all understand what I firmly and strongly believe Nunes was answering. I keep saying his name wrong.
Nunes was answering. And that first question is a question about who spied on the Trump team and
how did it start? This was a political operation that was initiated through the State Department.
That is why, Joseph, there are no formal channels, formal information. In other words, folks,
if this was an intelligence operation, let's walk through how, for a second, how a Five Eyes
operation would start normally and how this deviated from that path. If Australia, New Zealand,
the United Kingdom, these cooperators in this Five Eyes agreement, if someone in the UK finds out
that they've intercepted a phone call
from some country that talks about an explosion
in the United States,
there are already pre-established connections.
I want to be delicate here.
I don't want to give up too much information.
At U.S. facilities, where, Joe,
it's almost the equivalent of someone
can just write it down on a post-it and go hey um hey joe uh you know and this is uk the uk
intelligence guy can just go hey joe look at this post and here's what we've got that is not the
case with other countries we can share intelligence don't get me wrong but the the process that dunes
talks about is not in many cases as friendly and pre-established
and and and is less it's less bureaucratic than it is with the five eyes that makes sense Joe
it's almost like a dude can like walk next door and go hey I'm your UK counterpart here's what we
got yeah there's it but there is clearly a process and procedure N Nunes refers to it. There would be a record.
In other words, in a normal case of, hey, the UK gave us information about Joey Bagadona.
This guy's super dangerous.
What Nunes is saying is this FBI document that started this entire investigation.
There's no record of any of that.
But he says that while bringing up multiple times, Joe, the fact that, hey, you know,
we really shouldn't be spying on other countries' citizens. Why does he keep saying that?
Because this was not a formal intelligence operation, the traditional way this thing
started. It was a political operation being run through the State Department.
Bureaucrats, not intel people, not law enforcement, none of it.
What else did he say? He says, hey, we have to trust these intelligence services overseas.
We have to trust them that they're not spying on our citizens. Why do you think he would say that?
overseas we have to trust them that they're not spying on our citizens why do you think you would say that do you understand the scandal this guy's exposing right now how bureaucratic channels now
keep i want to be clear on this too i'm not suggesting to you that intelligence services
were not involved in this both overseas and here i'm simply suggesting to you that the
information they gathered joe was not passed through official channels
it was passed through bureaucratic channels does that make sense yeah i want to spy on joe joe's running for president i'm running against joe
my buddy is the president right now i co-opt the intelligence services to work with foreign
intelligence i can't let people know i'm using foreign intelligence to spy on joe
so what do i do i hide the information and launder it through bureaucratic and political channels,
not intelligence channels so there's no record of it.
That's what he's saying.
Same on you.
Oh my gosh, you ain't kidding.
This is why they're in a panic right now.
This is why Adam Schiff is losing his mind.
Adam Schiff responded, this is another attack on the FBI and all that.
This is nothing to do. They're trying to discredit
the investigation. The investigation discredited
itself.
Schiff is in a panic because he
knows everything. Adam Schiff,
hack police state tyrant,
Democrat hack,
is losing his mind
this weekend over this because he knows
everything he's been saying for months
about Russian collusion. Collusion is really an operation the Democrats were running
through bureaucratic channels to spy on innocent American citizens.
He is now in the desperation phase of this to try and rescue this thing.
By the way, that's what's the genesis of the lawsuit, too.
by the way that's what's the genesis of the lawsuit too the democrats filed the dnc filed a lawsuit against the trump team for colluding with the russians listen make no mistake i didn't
even mention on friday because we had so much going on the lawsuit is nothing but a smoke screen
to distract you from the fact that the house of cards is all coming down andy mccabe's looking
at potential prosecution and number two in the fbi for his role in this john brennan his role
is getting smoked out clapper's role is getting smoked out ironically by the comey memos comey
stories falling apart it's all coming down the ec document shows no evidence of official
intelligence channels used to start an official intelligence investigation.
Maybe that's the best way to sum it up, Joe.
Yeah, I like that. Does that make sense so far?
Yep.
No formal intelligence channels were used to start a formal intelligence investigation
against Donald Trump.
So what channels were used?
Political ones?
Wait, are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
There's more to this.
Here you have Hillaryary clinton former
secretary of state she's the other candidate is she pulling the strings on an investigation launched
on her opponent her political opponent donald trump well we don't know that yet but what i can
tell you i can tell you what we do know. We do know that longtime
associates of Hillary Clinton, including Sidney Blumenthal and another person named, I think,
Corey Shear, were actively giving information to the State Department that was somehow making
its way to the FBI. This is from two people within the State Department who have now publicly
come out and said this in, I think major news publications so we know this we know
this was at least from at least two witnesses who have publicly said this
and so what we're trying to do is we're trying to piece all that together we now
know that there was no official intelligence that was used to start this
investigation we know that Sidney Blumenthal and others were pushing
information into the State Department.
So we're trying to piece all of that together.
And that's why we continued to look at the State Department.
Oh my gosh.
It's this interview.
I had a hard time cutting it down
because it's a 10-minute interview.
Yeah.
And I really had to cut it to make it digestible
into little nuggets for my audience and for Joe.
So it's not just a show of me doing someone else's show.
Did you hear what he just said again?
It's now the third time he's repeated the fact that there was no official intelligence launched to start.
The most destructive intelligence, formal intelligence investigation in modern U.S. history against President Trump's team.
There was none. None.
He now said it again.
And what did he say again?
Oh, by the way, we already know about established State Department channels.
Now, I want you to remember that part.
For cuts I'm going to play from my interview with Felipe Reines or Reigns or whatever.
I don't even know his name.
We and him don't like each other at all.
Not one bit.
No.
Yes. You were shocked, right, by listening to my interview with him?
Yes, we really hate each other with a deep, dark passion.
I'm sorry to say that, but it's true.
I want you to remember that State Department portion.
Keep in mind, Nunes, who has seen the body of documents now,
not all, there's still some outstanding,
but a significant quantity of the body of documents that started this investigation, the spying operation to the Trump team is now saying on a televised interview.
He's not going to embarrass himself because he knows this stuff is going to come out that they've seen no official intelligence to date to start an investigation to Trump.
A oh, my gosh, a nuclear bomb of a bombshell in and of itself.
A nuclear bomb of a bombshell in and of itself.
And then he follows it up by saying, but we have seen information basically laundered through the State Department and political channels. Now, if you keep that in mind, because that is another super destructive bombshell.
That the bureaucracy was used to start an official intelligence investigation
is horrifying.
Now you'll
see why
Philippe Reines, in my interview
on Fox, my debate with him,
he freaks out and lies
about the existence of State
Department channels when I confront him on it.
I'll play that cut in a little while.
But it'll make a whole lot more sense now why he just lies on Fox.
Because if it's...
Man, I was stoked about this show today.
If it is proven, which I think we're well on the road to doing right now,
proven that this was an investigation started with no official intelligence at all,
but officials in the intelligence community
started the investigation and hid their involvement in it by laundering the information
through political and bureaucratic channels in the state department we we have a a crisis like
we haven't seen in modern times they are desperate to make this go away.
Now, does the lawsuit make sense now?
Yeah.
Why they're distracted.
It's all right.
It's a good call, Joe.
I totally forgot.
I know.
I'm going on.
All right, folks.
I'm going to get back to this.
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back to this. Now, the lawsuit. The Democrats knew last week, well, they understood for a while
that this EC, this electronic communication document from the FBI was going to go public,
and that that document was going to be
damning because it was going to show that this whole investigation was started based on nothing,
nothing formal. And they were going to have to explain away how, in fact, it started.
By listening to those Nunes clips, it's clear as day what he's saying, that the investigation
was started to bureaucratic, not official intelligence channels, but using intelligence
people. In other words, what we would call the police state.
Police state tyranny.
Isn't that what the Cubans and the North Koreans do?
They make bureaucratic appointments in their communist and tyrannical states,
and then they use those bureaucrats to corrupt and co-opt law enforcement and intel
to go after their political opponents.
Explain to me, Libs, how I'm wrong political opponents explain to me libs how
i'm wrong there explain to me how that's not police state tactics they started a spying
operation on the trump team using bureaucrats and politicians now listen to this debate i had
with philippe brianis i broke this up into some cuts here because this thing went nuclear this
weekend and i would not let this guy off
the hook on two questions. I asked him two things because if you understand these two questions and
the meaning of the answers, you understand why I wouldn't let him off the hook. Reines is a Clinton
bootlicker. He has his lips surgically attached to the buttocks of the Clinton operation. Surgically,
they've been sewed on. He can't remove them. I don't like Reines. Reines doesn't like me and don't care one bit. I ask him a question. I will not let him off the hook.
Question number one, why won't the DNC release the servers that they say were hacked by the
Russians? Remember, they've said that the Russians hacked the DNC Democrat National
Committee servers. That's the genesis of the whole Russian collusion case. Russians hacked the DNC servers, tried to get the information to the
Trump team so that the Trump team could use the emails to make the Clinton team look bad.
The whole collusion story falls apart. Forgive me for repeating myself on the last show,
but it's important. If that's not true, how do you have a collusion conspiracy
to release the Clinton and DNC emails if the Russians never hacked the server?
How?
It falls up.
The whole story falls apart.
They never released the service.
Law enforcement has never seen them.
They're hiding them.
I hit Reines with this question during an interview.
I also hit him with the State Department connection to the laundering of intelligence to the FBI.
And listen to some of his answers. Play cut one.
There's no question that the Russians tried to meddle and attack our election process.
That's not my comment. That's the comment of Mike Pompeo, of Nikki Haley, of DNI Coats.
This is the accepted outcome, the accepted assessment of the intelligence community.
Go ahead, Dan.
Yeah, yeah.
Notice what Philippe did there.
He avoided what I said.
Yes, the Russians did try to influence the election through Hillary Clinton.
We know this.
See, these are established.
I know he has a hard time.
She's gone now.
So what are we doing in 2018?
So the Russians, not because we're talking about a lawsuit that your party's filing against
the Republicans and Trump for something your candidate
did you see that you see what he did there i asked i didn't put my opening question in the
interest of time i hit felipe reinis with that question why won't the dnc turn over the service
notice what he does he doesn't answer the question at all he goes back to this talking point that the
russians meddled in the election and the intelligence community understands that.
Folks, please time out for a second.
Yes, granted.
You are absolutely correct, Felipe Reines.
The Russians have been meddling in our elections for as long as we can remember.
They are not our friends.
That's not the question I asked him.
Notice what he did there.
Felipe, why won't the DNC turn over the service?
You know, the Russians meddled in our election.
The Russian intelligence community.
I did not let him off the hook.
We know for a fact the Russians spoke to Christopher Steele.
We know that information made it into a fake dossier used to spy.
Why do you run from that?
Also, Philippe, answer me this question.
Don't duck it, because I know how you work.
Answer me this question.
Duck it.
Where the DNC servers you allege were hacked by the Russians,
why won't they turn those over to the FBI or even to BuzzFeed that's demanding them?
Okay, answer that.
If you're so sure the Russians hacked, why not turn them over?
I want to get something clear here, Dan.
Are you saying none of this happened?
Because that's not what the President of the United States and the CIA and the NSA believe.
Can you answer that question?
We hear you.
But go ahead.
Why haven't the DNC servers?
Why hasn't the DNC turned over the server to BuzzFeed?
I have no idea.
Or turned him over to authority, the FBI.
You hear it?
You hear the duck again?
I say to him, why?
Why?
He can't.
He's terrified to answer this question.
Because if he answers the question honestly well we can't turn
the dnc servers over to the fbi because they weren't hacked by the russians
or the hack or they were hacked by the russians but that's not who stole the emails first
in other words someone else may have stolen those emails there may have been an inside job may not there may
have been hacked from the outside too now i i get a lot of emails on this i know folks i don't talk
about things i can't i'm not absolutely solid you have a show there's liability involved for
stuff that's not what i do here as an investigator i get it i'm not saying i've seen some of your
theories i appreciate them don't get me wrong i'm not trying to in any way discredit you and
you're right to be suspicious.
But for those who email me,
you know what I'm talking about. When I'm sure
of stuff, I'll put it out there.
Again, I'm not discrediting anything you're
saying. I'm just saying I can't prove yet
exactly who did it.
And until I can, it would be irresponsible
for me to do that on my show. There are people involved
here and families. I have to be able to prove stuff.
And my sourcing has not been able to do that yet.
But this I know.
The DNC claims the Russians hacked those servers and has yet to turn them over to law enforcement,
which says to me conclusively, with 100% certainty, they're hiding something.
And he won't say what it is.
He goes, notice I ask him a question.
When you're debating liberals,
always, always pay attention for this.
They answer your question with a question.
That's what he did.
Felipe, why won't they hold up the,
why won't they turn over the servers?
Dan, are you saying none of this happened?
Rewind the tape.
Don't answer my question with a question.
All right, this goes on it gets better
this thing this was like the most this is the best interview i've ever done if i know self-praise
things but i never got off the air feeling better about myself until this interview play cut through
the fbi that didn't really go and they couldn't tell we're asking i don't know
excuse me ask when you know it okay okay no i don No, I know what I know is Dan. Here's what I know. Please let me talk for a minute.
You know that.
Let's leave that.
The Russians are going to try this again.
The Chinese are going to try this again.
Others are going to try this again.
What exactly is our Congress and our government doing to prevent it?
Can you name anything?
You still can't answer the question.
I mean, Dan, the DNC, if they're so sure the Russians hack their servers. Dan, do you believe the Russian FBI? Why? Don't answer my question why did the dnc if they're so sure the russians hack their servers dan do you
believe the russian fbi why don't answer my question don't counter it with another this is
let me ask you a question that you see what he does again folks if you're ever going to jump
into the conservative content or political arena be prepared for this every time. This is Democrat Technique 101.
Never answer a question.
Respond with another question.
What does he do?
He says it again.
Are you saying, what are the Russians,
what are we doing now against the Russians?
Because he can't answer the question.
The golden egg question.
Why won't the DNC turn over the servers?
The answer, folks, is because if the servers show that they were not hacked by the Russians,
this entire thing will fall apart for them.
That's the whole premise of their story.
Russia hacked the servers, gave the information to Trump.
If Russia didn't hack the servers, how could they have given the information to the Trump team?
Joe, does that make sense?
How catastrophically bad this will be for them if they turn those
servers over oh yeah sure now i'll get to the lawsuit thing in a second but you see what he
does there too yeah the democrat talking point has been that we're attacking the fbi we're not
i have done nothing but praise the men and women i work and i mean it this is not some i don't
listen i don't need to be you know know, like some kind of, you know,
I'm not a puffery guy.
Like, oh, let me just say the FBI is wonderful
because it sounds good.
No, I worked with them.
They were great.
They were some of the most skilled men
and women I ever worked with.
When you're in the Secret Service,
you work with the FBI all the time
on a protection visit, all the time.
They were great.
Notice how the Democrats' talking point, Adam Schiff's today is, oh, they're trying to discredit the investigation by attacking the FBI. They were great. Notice how the Democrats' talking point,
Adam Schiff's today,
is, oh, they're trying to discredit
the investigation by attacking the FBI.
What does he do?
He attacks the FBI, Reines.
He hits the FBI and the Russians.
Because he's in a panic now
that I've asked him a question
I will not let him skate on.
All right, we got one more.
Again, I'm sorry to play audio of myself,
but it's important because this, Reines is deeply, deeply connected to the Clinton operation, surgically attached to it. He understands how destructive to the Democrats and the Clintons this is going to be when people find out that the DNC servers have never been looked at by law enforcement next i hit him on the state
department connection and he and he just he just lies straight up lies about it so weren't there
clinton advisors working with christopher steel on the dossier yes or no no they were not at the
state department admitted it no i don't know what was going on the state part but absolutely not
you were a senior advisor at the State Department.
Ed, I don't much...
When we were at the State Department, absolutely not.
Okay.
Do you hear what he said there?
I hit him about the State Department connection.
Again, we had to cut out some of that for the sake of time.
And you see what he says?
Oh, I don't know what happened at the State Department.
But then he goes on.
I'm sorry.
I cut that part out.
It's my fault, Joe.
But he goes on at the end and says, oh, there's...'s first he says, I don't know what happened at the State Department. But then he information from Christopher Steele through State Department
channels to the FBI. Do you understand that's already in the Washington Post?
Right? It's just straight up lies because their whole story is collapsing. Their whole story's
falling apart, folks. The whole thing. The DNCc server they refuse to that now that the heat's
on to expose the dnc server to fbi uh analytics they're in a panic or law enforcement analytics
they're in a panic because they need the server to be hacked by the russians even if it wasn't
or else the whole story falls apart their story about official intelligence on trump that started this remember that has to be
true too the whole story about russian collusion is this fbi investigation joe started because
intelligence people around the world were so worried yeah it wasn't it wasn't intelligence
people who were worried it was politicians and bureaucrats who were worried. It was politicians and bureaucrats who were worried.
The State Department channel is not an intelligence channel. It is a diplomatic channel.
Using political appointees with no intelligence training whatsoever, who are not law enforcement,
to initiate a law enforcement operation against your political opponents
of the guy who appointed you to your position
is the very essence of police state tyranny.
This is all falling apart.
They can't expose the server.
The EC exposed that there was no official intelligence
at all that opened this thing.
It's whole entire story's collapsing on them.
Now, quickly in reference to the lawsuit because this is important too it's so much stuff i mean i got like a tomorrow show
too i don't have to do anything um the lawsuit the dnc filed a lawsuit on friday against the
trump team and the russians for collusion Folks, this is the dumbest political move in human history.
Here's the problem here.
Because the Democrats typically aren't this stupid, but they were here.
Notice, by the way, a lot of elected Democrats, Jackie Speier in California, elected Democrat
representative, you know what I'm talking about?
She went out on one of the cable news shows, too, and said, folks, this is a really stupid
idea.
I don't support this.
Why would she say that?
You rarely see this amount of discord in the Democrat caucus show. One thing I've always
admired about the Democrats in a, I don't mean admire in a qualitative, but I wish we could
emulate more is their ability to think collectively. They're like the board. They think like
communists, like a commune. They think with one mind and the message gets out. Republicans,
we're very entrepreneurial. We've got a liberty liberty minded spirit. We don't want to be told
what to do. Even some of the groups I'm involved in, it's very hard to get any kind of collective
effort out there because guys and ladies just do their own thing. Democrats don't think like that.
They have a collective identity of victimhood and they'll act together in unison. It is very rare
for the DNC to do something like
file this lawsuit last week and immediately for prominent Democrats to come out and say it was a
dumb idea. Why? Because folks, they're between the proverbial rock and the hard place. They have
nowhere to go. The EC was going to come out and show there was no intel. The lawsuit is the only
way, by the way, the pressure to get the servers out there. no intel the lawsuit is the only way by the way the pressure
to get the servers out there they have nothing else to do the case is falling apart the only
way for the democrats by the way they will you're hearing it here first they will drop this lawsuit
you heard it here first market 10 40 a.m eastern time what's today's date monday april 23rd there it is and when will they drop this
lawsuit they will ride this thing out for as long as they can to the midterms to keep pressure on
the collusion narrative that's falling apart we're taking a note of the time here and then the minute
the discovery phase of this starts where they get to get the hold of the the uh the the people in the are being
sued trump team and the republicans the minute the discovery phase where they get to take a look
at these servers the democrats will drop the case mark it down 10 41 they will never let the
republicans do this now you say, what's the rock?
What's the hard place?
The hard place is, okay, if we file this lawsuit against the Republicans about Russian collusion,
you realize at some point we're going to have to turn over the servers or show some
evidence that our servers were hacked.
People sitting around this table, Joe, are saying what?
They weren't hacked.
What are we going to do?
Or that wasn't the hack that led to the emails being exposed, right? So someone else, they were, well, why are we filing a lawsuit? If we say that, we're going to have to prove that. Here's the rock. So you have the hard place. Here's the rock. The rock is, guys, if we don't, this thing is falling apart here, okay? We're going to have to raise money going into the midterms. All we've been talking about for the last two years is Russian collusion.
This is falling apart.
There's no collusion.
How do we keep the attention on this collusion case to raise money and tell our base we're going to have Trump arrested?
We're going to have him impeached?
How do we do that if we have no evidence?
I got an idea.
Let's file this lawsuit.
Do you understand they have no good options?
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
Their options are let their entire basis for being right now,
the Russian collusion fake story fall apart,
which would be catastrophic to them before the midterms,
which is a no-go.
Or option number two, file a lawsuit,
pretend there really was Russian collusion,
wait till the discovery phase starts
where we'll have to turn over the server,
and then we just drop the case.
They're just buying time with the lawsuit.
They're buying time.
That is it.
There you go.
They're buying time, brother.
They are buying time.
Man, this weekend was a huge news week.
Was it?
Man.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
I rarely cut that much audio for my show.
All right, I got a lot more to get to.
So stand easy, as they used to say in the police department
when we were out in the mustard
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Okay. There was another bombshell report out this weekend. It'll be in the show notes. Please read
it today from the Daily Caller, talking about Papadopoulos again. Because remember, the story has changed five, six, seven times about how this
started. Now we know, we've seen the formal document, and we know it started with no official
intelligence at all. The spying operation against Trump, none. So let's be clear on that. Nunes was
crystal clear. He's not going to lie about it. The FBI document has indicated there was no official intelligence at all.
So now you may be saying to yourself, well, what about that New York Times story that said the FBI investigation started with this Papadopoulos meeting in London with Alexander Downer, an Australian diplomat, where Papadopoulos had disclosed that he had heard about these Hillary Clinton emails that the Russians had.
had disclosed that he had heard about these Hillary Clinton emails that the Russians had.
Now, if Nunes is saying in that interview with Maria Bartiromo that no official intelligence was created, then how the hell did the information from that meeting in the bar get back to the
United States?
Think about what I'm telling you here.
You know, can I stop for a second?
I don't mean for editing for you, Joe. I mean for the audience. Sometimes I say that to Joe and I'm like you here. You know, can I stop for a second? Yeah.
I don't mean for editing for you, Joe.
I mean for the audience.
Sometimes I say that to Joe and I'm like, can you cut that out?
Because there's like a dance.
I mean, I listened to my own show this weekend for like the first time in a long time.
Sometimes if Joe does something cool with you, I'll listen to it.
But I don't listen to my own show.
I just don't have enough time.
And plus, I listen to it when I hear it live so i don't need to listen to it but this weekend it was a piece of information i had forgotten so i went
back to episode 685 which is a good one and i have to tell you i understand your emails now about how
complicated this can get because even listening to it myself i was like wow this is a really
complicated i get it i'm glad you did yeah i did I did. And I'm like, I get it. Like a couple points, I had a back, you know, you have the
15 second reverse button on iTunes. I skipped back. And folks, I do this because this is the
most important scandal of our lifetimes. And if you don't understand how intricate and detailed
and involved it was, none of this will make sense. That's why I repeat a lot of this.
But this is why I'm stopping here, because I want to make sure you understand this.
First part of the show, 30,000 feet, I told you a guy who has seen just about everything right now about this investigation, Nunes, has now said on the record on a television interview, there was no official intelligence that started.
No intelligence, yet they spied on trump now i'm telling you there's another article that came out this weekend by chuck ross who's done great work over the daily caller which will be in the show
notes indicating that the papadopoulos there's some more information about the papadopoulos meeting
the papadopoulos meeting according to Papadopoulos meeting, according to New York Times, is what started
this intelligence investigation into Trump. But if the FBI document presents no formal
intelligence channels from the foreign government or foreign government official downer
that started this thing because of his meeting with Papadopoulos,
then how did the information get back to the United States?
I think the answer clearly is, again, in bureaucratic, not official channels.
But let me quote you from this Daily Caller piece, because it's fascinating.
The Daily Caller is told that Papadopoulos was introduced to Downer through two intermediaries,
an Israeli embassy official in London named Christian Cantor, who introduced Papadopoulos,
who he previously knew, to Erica Thompson, a counselor to Downer, who serves in the Australia's London embassy.
This is fascinating.
And I was not aware of this.
Papadopoulos was front and center in the British press because of comments he made about David Cameron, the UK prime minister at the time.
he made about David Cameron,
the UK Prime Minister at the time.
On March 4, 2016,
Papadopoulos gave an interview to the London Times
calling on Cameron
to apologize to Trump
over negative comments
about the then GOP candidate.
Okay.
Wow.
You may not realize the wow
in the wow what I just said yet,
but one of the problems we've been having and putting together
this book denise matt and i it's been all encompassing the effort is we've had a really
tough time with motive why was the united kingdom and the australians downer and people in the uk
who were passing information somehow to our intelligence community. Again,
clearly wasn't through official channels. Why? Why would they do that? Why create such a severe
liability for yourself if you lost? Well, Denise has a theory. Forgive me, I'm not trying to be
coy, but I can't disclose to you yet because it's going to blow your mind when I do. But keep listening, because once we're done with it, it's something nobody else is talking about.
Denise is on to something, and we've been running it to the ground.
But again, I don't believe in conspiracy theories and tying everything up in a neat little box.
There were other reasons, too.
Ross here gives a potential motive to go after Papadopoulos and the Trump team, outside of the fact that they just didn't like Trump.
People with connections to the Clintons.
Alexander Downer, who knows the Clintons.
He was involved in the transfer of $25 million from the Australian government to the Clinton Foundation.
Downer knows the Clintons.
foundation downer knows the clintons downer sees papadopoulos's comments in the newspaper hitting the david cameron from the united kingdom
obviously cameron's people are probably upset downer's people are probably upset
they sense an opportunity they then meet with papadopoulos who made these comments in a london
bar and all of a sudden a counterintelligence investigation opens with papadopoulos who made these comments in a London bar and all of a sudden a counterintelligence
investigation opens with Papadopoulos at the center of it. Motive matters. It's not this
positive in anything, but it does matter. It always matters in a criminal case.
And is this going to be a criminal case later on? Probably not against Downer or any of them, obviously,
but I believe in some people in the IC community
when they find out that this was started
with no formal intelligence at all.
This is really, really critical and important stuff,
but wait till you hear about our other motive.
I'm not trying to tease you.
I just don't want to put it out there
because it's so controversial
that I think you're going be like okay now pieces are
starting to come together i gotta tell you that was a good tease though no it is joe it's when
denise called me about it was a good one i was like holy crikeys how did i miss that how did i
because i again i've seen almost every piece of information in this thing I could get my mitts on. And she dug this thing out of nowhere and it's mind blowing.
So go working on it.
Hey,
all right.
I do want to get to a couple more things though.
One quick note.
So Yeti Cooler is extremely disappointed.
I don't know if you own a Yeti Cooler,
but they severed some ties with the NRA foundation due to political
pressure.
So,
you know,
you know what to do. I'm done with Yeti Coolers, but i got some heads up this morning about a cool company that i didn't
pay as i have no financial relationship with them whatsoever they're welcome to be a sponsor they're
not though i'm not putting any pressure on them or anything i'm just saying there's rtic coolers
so big shout out to them they're apparently support the second amendment unlike yeti coolers
so uh yeah i'm done with you guys at Yeti.
So you lost a potential customer there.
And, you know, we use a lot of coolers in Florida.
But really, what suckers.
Another story I saw, which will be in the show notes today, which is really, really good, Joe.
Really good because it's bad.
And it describes the culture war going on against all of us.
Folks, let's stop pretending that liberals are good guys, that they're just misguided.
They're not.
They're liberal police state tyrants.
That's it.
They spy on people.
They attack people with Antifa.
They call for cops to be hurt with Black Lives Matter.
They're anti-free speech advocates, anti-civil liberties advocates.
These are not good people.
Okay.
Now, there are Democrats who are good people okay um now there are democrats
who are good people radical liberals are dogs um they've always been dogs and they are they will
fight and destroy the constitutional republic they're a forest fire that burns down every single
thing they touch remember as i've told you often this is your fight your fight is against bad
people know that that fight defines you wake up every day knowing you are on the right side of
history that this is the essence of your character being built through the suffering you've taken on Know that that fight defines you wake up every day knowing you are on the right side of history,
that this is the essence of your character being built through the suffering you've taken on by
fighting and combating these goons every day of your life. So what happened this weekend?
Candace Owens, who's a friend of mine, she works at Turning Point USA over there with Charlie Kirk.
Candace Owens was brutally attacked on Twitter because she basically called out,
she happens to be a black female who has some conservative leanings, not all, but some,
brutally attacked because she just happened to say and speak out against victim culture
at a conference at a California college.
And Kanye West, the rapper who has a lot of cultural influence,
said, hey, I like how Candace Owen thinks.
Oh my gosh, the liberal boycott brigade
came out in full force attacking Kanye West,
attacking Candace Owens.
And by the way, it backfired
because Owens got like 70,000 new Twitter followers
to enhance her message.
So nice job, you goofy liberal goons.
Yeah, boy!
Yeah, Flava.
Shania Twain, country singer, comes out and says,
hey, I would have voted for Donald Trump. She doesn't say she supports everything he does. She says, I would have voted for Donald Trump in an interview. Again, the liberal boycott brigade.
Shania Twain then apologizes. Weak, weak, weak. I hate weakness. It's pathetic. Now, as I tweeted
to Shania Twain, now you've alienated everyone.
Because the liberals will hate you no matter what.
Because that's what they do.
They hate themselves.
But now you've alienated conservative Americans, too, who see you as weak and pathetic.
I have the articles up in the show notes.
Take a look at them today.
But folks, this is the fight.
This is it.
show notes take a look at them today but folks this is the fight this is it the liberal boycott brigade is using brigade is using social media to attack and dismantle american institutions
everywhere if you dare speak out they will attack relentlessly but this is the fight
one more thing they are using lawfare uh sorry i just want to get this in before i go
they are using lawfare the liberals in other just want to get this in before I go. They are using lawfare, the liberals, in other words, the use of the legal system and process to attack the Trump team by filing multiple lawsuits in an effort to bog them down.
The Trump team is talking about a counter lawsuit on this server case where they're suing the DNC is suing the Republicans and the Trump team for collusion.
and the Trump team for collusion.
The Trump team is talking about a counter lawsuit to get a hold of those servers.
Folks, this is the way to fight back.
They want to use the legal system to sue.
We use the legal system to sue right back.
And then we start talking discovery.
We get people up on the stand.
I just wanted to mention that
because if anyone's listening,
that's the way to counter this thing.
All right, folks, I really appreciate it.
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I also have a great piece from Matt Palumbo I didn't get to
about the myth that people who live in countries
that have socialized medicine live longer.
That's a myth.
It's a total myth.
So read that in my debunk this section.
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