The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 715 Let’s Make Liberals Play by Their Own Rules
Episode Date: May 8, 2018Summary: Liberals have weaponized the government to attack their political opponents. Let’s see how they like their new “rules” by using the rules on them. I also address some stunning news a...bout the Mike Flynn case. News Picks: Today’s edition of liberal myth-busting: “Taking on liberal income inequality myths.” John Kerry should be investigated and prosecuted if necessary. What is the DOJ hiding? Turns out conservatives are the real environmentalists. Rosie O’Donnell should be investigated and prosecuted if the evidence warrants. Five things to look out for in today’s election. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today i am so happy
to be here with you and everyone else dan yeah man me too all right let's get right into it today i
saw an interesting uh tweet right before i came on the air about the trump theory of the reverse honeymoon
uh some guy thomas uh thomas victor or something like i was it was an interesting tweet i don't
know the guy but it's a fascinating tweet and i wanted to get to that because it applies to what
happened yesterday where another uh democrat has been accused of of just heinous disgusting
activity and including assaulting women these are you still accusations, so we've got to be careful with that.
But the accusations are out there.
It is the Attorney General of New York who was a virulent anti-Trumper.
He had committed himself to attacks on Trump, not to upholding the law in New York,
was using his office to attack Trump.
And now it turns out that there are very credible accusations of him
actually attacking women, which were disgusting.
Him saying, this guy Schneiderman, the Attorney General for New York.
Sorry to jump right in, folks, but this story so disturbed me yesterday, Joe.
Yeah.
He said that they were engaged in role play.
No, you can't do that stuff.'s folks this is just uh this is inexcusable if this turns out
to be true he's claiming it was role play but the idea of role play is that two people are playing
in the role um not that at least according to the allegations you're assaulting someone uh and you
listen you just can't do it but i was reading an
interesting tweet uh what do you call thread about trump and the idea of the reverse honeymoon and
it was um it was interesting so i wanted to put that out in the air hey uh today's show brought
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reinstall everything we had a major leak breakdown this morning so here is the theory i saw on
twitter of the reverse honeymoon this is fascinating joe think about this okay so i'm kind of adding
to it because it was just a couple of tweets but the idea is this there's basically two ways to do this and to run for office the
old school way joe which is to claim and this is me adding a little bongino to the tweet out there
because they were short okay i'm gonna call the first this this old way the avoiding the suck of humanity theory like the idea that humanity in
general um you know we we're we there are there's evil out there we all are sinners um that our goal
is in in life is basically to to try to avoid sin but we're all going to eventually lapse we're all
sinners so that the theory used to be running for office, Joe, to avoid the suck of humanity.
In other words, claim you're above it all.
You know, look at me.
I'm the substanding citizen.
I have a perfect marriage, perfect kids, perfect kitchen.
You know all those TV ads, Joe, you've seen with the politician in the kitchen.
He's leaning on the island or the table talking and everybody's like,
Dad, you're so funny.
You've seen those ads.
Leave it to Beaver, yeah.
Yeah, leave it to Beaver. Exactly. It's funny you say that. I actually have a note here, Ward Cle funny. You see those ads. Leave it to Beaver, yeah. Yeah, leave it to Beaver.
Exactly.
It's funny you say that.
I actually have a note here, Ward Cleaver.
You're right.
That was a bygone generation.
Social media and the prevalence of 24-hour cable news where we can report on every little indiscretion of every human being on the planet has kind of laid waste to the theory that we are not all sinners.
Now, I'm not saying we
shouldn't strive for better. Obviously, that is our personal battle every day. I'm just saying that
in the past, and I know this because I dealt with political marketing companies when I ran for
office, you wanted to be portrayed as this kind of like above it all, above the suck of humanity
thing. And the suck of humanity is my line. I'm trying to take credit for it i'm just saying i'm trying to make this easy to understand so this guy in his tweet storm he
said well this was schneiderman's problem joe schneiderman obviously is accused of some pretty
horrific things i mean this is serious stuff and we'll see what happens but schneiderman
betrayed himself and his campaign as is you know mr Normal and no problems and I'm above this and I should be the guy to prosecute the bad guys because I am not, in fact, one of them.
It was believable enough that he got elected by a pretty hefty margin, by the way.
So that was the first way of doing it.
Now, Joe, this is an interesting theory this guy has. has the theory he has on the on the tweet storm is that the reason trump won is he was one of the
first guys to come out and try this embrace the suck of humanity approach like say listen yeah
man here's what i did i was a playboy um i i've lost money i've made money i've been involved uh
it you know with with with some of the worst people around and how to come through it i've
had to deal with you know labor negotiations with good guys bad guys i've had to deal with it
all but embrace the suck of humanity put it all out there no don't try to claim at any point you're
above it joe right listen i'm part of this too trying to get past it, but this is all my, here's my dirty laundry.
And by embracing the suck of humanity, you have this almost reverse honeymoon period
where all the bad stuff comes out first during the campaign.
We had the, you know, access Hollywood video and all this other stuff.
And therefore, anything that comes out later about the past you, the past you, I mean,
no one's going to tolerate
continued indiscretions now you get what i'm saying yeah but whatever comes out about the past you
in in no way takes away from people's preconceived notions of who you were because you've already put
it out there right okay in other words it's not you know what i'm saying it's that so he calls it
the reverse honeymoon and i thought in light of what happened with Schneiderman, this is interesting because
you see Democrats doing this all the time and going down in flames.
They try to pretend they're above it all.
You know, you have like socialist Bernie Sanders claiming he lives by these higher ideals until
we find out Bernie's purchased a few homes himself.
Bernie makes a lot of money.
You see this over and over.
himself. Bernie makes a lot of money. You see this over and over. I saw a story today, not to get off topic, but Fox had a story up that there's a socialism conference this year in Chicago, Joe,
to advance the cause of socialism. And they're charging up to $250 a ticket.
So let me get this straight. You're running on that old theory that socialists, you guys are
above it all. You live by a higher set of values. You're not motivated by a profit motive or anything. And
yet you're charging up to $250 a ticket. Why doesn't everybody get the same price?
Why isn't it free? I don't understand. Oh, you have to pay people who work for a living?
Oh, the hotel rooms are really expensive too? How's that? Because you have to compensate people
for their time? The hotel staff, the owner
who bought the property, they have to pay the electric bill. I mean, this is what I'm saying.
This is why socialism will never catch on in the United States. Because with the 24-hour news cycle
and social media exposing the hypocrisy of people who aren't actually socialists, they're just
socialist talkers, it's so easy to do. One of our most listened to episodes ever back in the day before the Russia scandal
was the Bernie Sanders episode where we talked about the braised and dives or whatever they
were, how Bernie was traveling on his plane, his campaign plane.
And remember that, Joe?
Yeah.
And the menu on the campaign plane was like a 72 course meal.
It was ridiculous. Remember that? Yeah, exactly. like a 72 course meal it was ridiculous
remember that yeah exactly remember that yeah it was it was we didn't even know what it was
i'm like brazen dives what is that i didn't even know what it was we laughed about it the whole
show but that show took off because in this era of 24-hour social media and cable news you will
not be given a pass in a bygone, the indiscretions of local politicians were
largely local. And even in the Eric Schneiderman case, it may have, you know, if Tom Brokaw or
Peter Jennings or Walter Cronkite didn't cover it, Joe, nationally at least, it didn't happen.
Right.
You know, it may make the New York Times or the Post and some people may have read it,
but it wouldn't become the subject of a 24-hour news story.
Now it will.
So now it's out there and it's broken down this wall with people where people actually thought these politicians were above it all.
That was the whole selling premise of socialism.
was that there were really smart people, Joe,
really morally and ethically upstanding individuals who were better to rule and make decisions over your lives,
the spending of your money,
the allocation of healthcare assets and resources,
the dictation of ideas to your kids in public schools.
The idea was they were smarter.
They were better than you.
We're now seeing that they're all frauds.
Bernie's a fraud.
Fokahontas is a fraud elizabeth warren eric schneiderman is a fraud and what is trump joe he's not a fraud no you may not
like him right you may object to some of his behavior and you may characterize it as whatever
you wish but at least he's not lying about it and that's the reverse honeymoon
theory i saw it this morning right before i came on the air and i was like that's really fascinating
and i think they're right that's why people even his speech the way he talks i'm sorry
the way he talks i mean he talks in a regular guy kind of uh vernacular it's not condescending
it's not look at me i can use a big word because i know it um it's yeah you're right
and i like it the reverse honeymoon theory so i really enjoyed that um all right what else i want
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Big news yesterday.
Must read.
Well, listen, I'm not a liberal. I don't give orders.
Please read
an article by Andy McCarthy
at National Review.
I will have in the show notes today. It is fantastic.
Andy writes a little.
He's a former attorney and prosecutor.
So his pieces can be a little long, but they're really, really good.
He has a piece up today about some stunning revelations in the Mueller case that have just started to creep out.
I wanted to just give you one takeaway from this that blew my mind yesterday, and it blew
my mind because it doesn't seem like anyone else is really reporting on what happened.
Joe, Andy writes in the piece that according to some recently released materials, we found out that Mike Flynn, the former national security advisor to Donald Trump, who had to resign, as you all know the story, because Sally Yates and the Department of Justice targeted him for a nonsensical Logan Act violation, which John Kerry has been engaged in, negotiating with the Iranians behind Donald
Trump's back to try to scuttle Trump's plans to fix this Iran deal or get rid of it, which he
should do today. And I think he's going to. We'll find that out soon. But an interesting revelation,
Joe, about the Flynn case. Remember what I told you about Flynn? So just a backstory, Mike Flynn.
Mike Flynn's a national security advisor for the incoming Trump administration, engaged in perfectly legitimate conversations with the
Russian ambassador while he's on vacation. And he forgets the details of it, is interviewed by the
FBI, forgets, doesn't remember the entire contents of the conversation, tells the FBI agents that he doesn't remember discussing sanctions.
The FBI, Joe, has a transcript, a literal transcript of the conversation Flynn had with the Russian ambassador. And in that conversation, the sanctions were mentioned. Now,
how did they get that transcript? Now, I know this is a story that gets overlooked,
but folks, this speaks to the entire 30,000-foot debacle of a scandal
this thing really is.
This thing is disgusting.
Horrendous.
We previously thought,
and I was under the working assumption
based on the publicly available information,
and information I got as well, that we guessed, Joe, it was from unmasking yeah now what is unmasking it's important you
understand this folks because a major bombshells in this andy mccarthy piece that you got to read
it'll be at the show notes today on the website too under the show notes tab unmasking is when
we spy on foreign you know folks all the time foreign agents foreign government
officials that call they're not u.s citizens they have no protections from our constitution as long
as they're not you know on on u.s soil we can unmask them well even on u.s soil there are some
cases obviously we can unmask some people uh so it was always thought of that they were targeting
the russian ambassador joe and that flynn caught up, what they would say, incidentally.
In other words, we weren't listening for Flynn.
If you call whatever, Joe, your cousin, and we're targeting your cousin, you get caught up on the call.
We'll be like, well, you know, we weren't really targeting Joe.
We were targeting a cousin and Joe happened to call him.
The theory I was operating on was that Flynn was reverse targeted.
In other words, they said they were targeting the Russian ambassador, which is perfectly legal to record and listen to his conversations, right?
But what they were actually doing was recording Flynn.
And what I had said to you is it was, this is still to this day puzzles me.
I think they did something on purpose.
If you remember this correctly,
Flynn goes on vacation. I think it's the Dominican Republic right before Trump is inaugural. Flynn,
you know, they just got done with the campaign. Flynn's taking a break. He goes on vacation.
He's the appointed now national security advisor for the president elect, not the president yet.
And Joe, do you remember what they did? The Obama administration, I believe,
waits until Flynn goes on vacation.
Yeah, I remember that.
They then kick Russians out of the country
and out of this facility in Maryland,
knowing what was going to happen.
The Russians, of course, are going to reach out
to the Trump administration,
the incoming Trump administration,
and say, hey, how do we respond to this?
Obama just kicked our guys out.
Of course there was going to be a phone call.
But when did Obama kick those Russians out of the country and out of this facility they
had in Maryland?
While Flynn, right around the time Flynn's on vacation.
So I had suggested to you that if you were going to reverse target, in other words, say
I'm targeting Joe's cousin, but I'm not.
I'm really targeting Joe and waiting for Joe to call him so I can listen to Joe, not the cousin.
What better way to instigate a phone call between Flynn and the Russian ambassador than to kick a few Russians out of the country and just sit there and wait?
Yeah.
You know the call's coming.
It's got to.
Now, you may say, how does this apply to the Flynn vacation story?
Well, Flynn's on vacation.
He's obviously not privy to the sensitive communications channels he has while in the
United States.
Not to mention, he's still a member of the president elects incoming team, not the president.
So they don't have the full level of support they have.
So if you were going to reverse target Joe,
one of the best ways to do it
and to keep him away from encrypted Stu phones
and all that other stuff
is to target him while he's on vacation in the Dominican
and may not have access at the ready
to these highly sophisticated equipment,
which would be harder to listen to, right?
Makes sense?
Yeah.
Although the Russian ambassador
wouldn't have a stew key on that end.
But you get my point,
that the sophisticated communication channels
wouldn't be there.
I think this was done deliberately
to listen to Mike Flynn's call.
Now, what's the difference
and what has Andy put out in his piece?
That now we find out, Joe,
that there was a CI investigation,
a counterintelligence investigation
on Flynn himself.
Flynn himself.
So now you're suggesting that, what,
there may have been,
I don't know this,
but McCarthy says we may have to readdress this.
Was there a FISA warrant on Flynn too?
So someone was
suggesting that there's probable cause that Flynn
was acting on behalf of a foreign
agent in violation of U.S.
law? Folks, do you understand
what a
I mean
the nuclear explosion that this
is and information. How did nobody pick this up?
You know, me included.
I always figured that was the scheme.
They waited for him to go to the Dominican.
They did something that would, you know,
poke and prod the Russians to call him.
The Russians call him.
He's in the Dominican.
They're like, okay, we got the call.
Now let's go interview him on a Logan Act violation.
But what if the whole time the warrant was really against Flynn?
Folks, this is just do you understand how far down the rabbit hole the Democrats have gone?
They have completely burned and shredded the Constitution.
This is we are in such a bad situation right now
now do you understand yesterday's show where i said no no no no it is absolutely time someone
needs john kerry needs to be investigated today someone should get a warrant right now for john
kerry on a logan act violation they should go do exactly what they did for these other guys.
Oh, man, we don't know.
I don't know if we can do that.
It's not time.
You know, we don't want to stoop to their level.
No, there's no...
It's all gone, folks.
The Logan Act is still on the books.
Let me be clear.
I think it's crap.
I think it's entirely unconstitutional.
What better way to test it?
Let's arrest John Kerry and see what happens.
Now, there is a Daniel Greenfield piece in Front Page Mag about exactly this.
That is awesome, Joe.
It's so good.
I strongly encourage you to read it.
Now, he talks about all of the hypocrisies in this case with the media how you had mike flynn being
accused of logan act violations even though he was the incoming national security advisor
john kerry is nothing john kerry right now is joe citizen right he has nothing he has no
government authority at all he is negotiating with a sworn enemy of the United States, a chance death to
America to sabotage, sabotage a deal to try to stop the Iranians from getting a nuclear bomb.
And what do I mean? I mean, Trump's trying to get rid of the Iranian deal right now, Joe,
that paves a path to a nuclear explosion, a nuclear weapon. Thank goodness. Yes, thank goodness is right.
He's trying to get rid of this thing, Trump, or fix it.
Get rid of the sunset provisions and other things.
John Kerry is actively sabotaging that effort.
Folks, this hints of something far worse, too, than the Logan Act.
We should demand an investigation of John Kerry. Demand it it how do you like the new rules guys how
do you like them the logan act you guys wanted to prosecute it this is your thing you love big
government weaponizing big government you have gone down the rabbit hole now it's time to live
by those rules you like those new rules let's see how they work. Joe, arrest him. Go prosecute him and
arrest John Kerry and let him fight it out in court.
And then we'll see how
much you love the Logan Act.
Unbelievable what's going on. Unreal.
But hat tip to
Andy McCarthy, and he explains this all
in this lengthy piece, but it's a very good one,
about how, again, he talks about the
redactions, too, how the redactions were purely cosmetic. I got into that yesterday. How the redactions on
some of these reports from the DOJ, some elements within which have seemingly gone rogue, stuff that
they're hiding from the government, Joe, has nothing to do with national security. It has
everything to do with hiding the FBI and the DOJ's role in a malicious prosecution of Mike Flynn.
In other words, one of the redactions they sent to Congress that was blacked out, that
we couldn't see, was the Department of Justice, FBI officials specifically, saying how they
didn't think Mike Flynn was deceptive in the interview and how Andy McCabe at one point
says, yeah, this wasn't really like the best way to start a false statements case.
You think?
Hey, we don't think he was lying, but let's charge him with false statements.
That was blacked out.
That was left out of the, that was black.
Why was that blacked out?
What's the national security interest in that?
There is none.
These redactions are purely cosmetic and they're CYA.
They're not OPSEC.
In the Secret Service and in the federal government, they have a thing called OPSEC, operational security, meaning not everything has to be classified for you to shut your mouth about it.
These were not OPSEC redactions.
These were not classified redactions.
These were not national security redactions.
These were redactions CYA.
They were covering their butts.
This was a malicious prosecution
from the start, folks, and it was
disgraceful what happened to
this guy. Can you imagine? Let's just see
what happens. I'll stay on top of this.
I'm going to work some
stuff.
And I'm going to try to get back to you over
the coming days if there was, in fact, some
kind of a warrant to spy
on Mike Flynn. Because that changes everything if this was not just some kind of a warrant to spy on Mike Flynn because that changes
everything if this was not just unmasking that you were actively spying on a military lieutenant
general who was the former head of one of our major intelligence branches a dedicated American
patriot you were doing it for wait for what you think he was acting on behalf of a foreign agent and you've yet to produce any evidence of that at all? This would be a major,
major bombshell in the case. You know what? I hate the word bombshell because I keep saying it.
Everything's a bombshell, but the Democrats don't even care anymore. They've gone so far
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So we have that, the prosecution of Flynn story.
All right.
Here's another really good story here that I wanted to put out there.
Folks, I get it with sessions.
I understand.
I get a lot of your emails, and I agree.
There have been tremendous missteps.
And I think some in the listening audience, some, not all, you're misinterpreting my support of what's going on as blind support for sessions or anybody else.
I'm not.
I'm an inherent skeptic of any government official
conservative libertarian communist liberal it doesn't matter i distrust power and question
authority at every end i am not universally supporting jeff sessions and everything he's
doing i please don't misinterpret that what i'm simply trying to say with the take it east
approach is i don't want you to think nothing is going on.
That's like a triple quadruple negative.
When I say take it easy, I'm just trying to put out there that just divorce it from sessions. Because it's almost become so polarizing, Joe, that it's blinding people.
Forget sessions for a minute, okay?
Forget it.
If you dislike sessions, I can't talk you out of it anymore.
I'm not a universal supporter.
I already told you his decision to recuse was catastrophic
and has caused all kinds of headaches we don't need.
But it's becoming so polarizing, either pro or con, to Sessions,
that it is blinding people figuratively to the facts of what's going on.
blinding people figuratively to the facts of what's going on.
I'm telling you through quality people that there are investigations going on sanctioned by the Department of Justice right now.
Yeah, put Sessions out of it for a minute.
I'm not telling you everybody in the Department of Justice is a good guy.
Frankly, there are a lot of bad guys still left.
I just said that last night on Hannity, that they're running largely,
There are a lot of bad guys still left.
I just said that last night on Hannity.
That they're running largely, some of them a rogue operation.
With the redactions and hiding stuff.
It's ridiculous.
Failing to comply with subpoenas.
Rod Rosenstein is a total disaster.
Completely conflicted in this case.
Rosenstein signed one of the FISA warrants.
Rosenstein was the United States Attorney on the precursor to the Uran one case how can this guy get any more conflicted but there are things going on so i want to put you at ease
just a bit on this on the good that's the bad news okay so i'm not i get it you don't have to email
me about all the bad i know it i'm putting it out there okay the good news is this remember i told
you joe the ig report the inspector general
michael horowitz the equivalent of an internal affairs agent within the government who is
looking at all of this he's looking at the clinton email probe um i believe that has spilled over
into pfizer gate and some additional schemes going on in the doj there is a department of
justice sanctioned internal affairs investigation going on that was oddly requested by the Democrats because they thought Jim Comey cost Hillary the election.
So the Democrats said, we demand an investigation into this Hillary case.
Well, that's blown up in their faces completely because the IG's investigation has already uncovered the stroke page text.
has already uncovered the stroke page text.
It's uncovered from what I'm hearing,
some pretty nasty stuff on the Clinton side as well on how Clinton was given a pass on her email investigation.
Now, what's the good news?
Like, all right, get to the good news.
You're killing me here.
The good news is the report's been delayed.
Why is that good news?
That's annoying.
I did tell you it'd be out by now.
And according to a number of people I trust, they thought that too. It's been delayed, Joe. It's why it's been delayed that should,
as Joe said to me before the show, because I was very upset about our technical issues today.
He said, turn that frown upside down. Well, turn that frown upside down. It's been delayed because
they've uncovered new information on the Clinton Foundation scandal.
Now, I ask you this, there's a Take It East shirt too, by the way, at the Chum Store on the Clinton Foundation scandal. Now, I ask you this. There's a Take It East shirt, too, by the way,
at the Chum Store on the website today, folks.
If you want to Take It East, I love that one.
Take It East!
Take It East!
I'm asking you to Take It East on this one.
Do you want the report released today and nobody going down?
Or do you want the report delayed a bit
because they're finding new information
that could eventually lead to prosecutions?
Your choice.
Again, your call.
I get it.
Some of you may say,
I've had enough.
I'm done being patient with it.
Okay, we're just going to lose it
like we lost the Benghazi case.
We did.
There are people who still think
the Obama administration
handled the Benghazi massacre appropriately,
despite common sense dictating to you
that it doesn't.
I mean, that they didn't. That they'd screwed the whole thing up and people died
we lost that we lost it in the court of public opinion sadly people died there the irs case
nothing happened this case i believe they have hard evidence of potential criminality the ig
report has been delayed but it is because of new surfacing evidence.
I think this is very, very good news, folks.
Very good news.
Just Horowitz has been on top of this
and we'll see what happens.
We had the referral, of course, to McCabe,
the McCabe referral to the Department of Justice
for prosecution.
We'll see what happens there.
But people need to be investigated,
potentially arrested. Search warrants need to be investigated, potentially arrested.
Search warrants need to be served, Joe.
If this is the new rule and this is the way it's going to go down, then everybody's going to play by the same rules.
If the Logan Act is a serious crime, John Kerry's going to have to go down for it, too.
All right.
Let's see.
What else?
There was a lot of stuff in the news today.
I had a pick through.
I go everywhere, man. Legal insurrection, all this kind all this kind of stuff oh oh this one's from a listener thank you to uh the person who sent this to me you know who you are i appreciate this is a great story from
the washington times and it speaks to one of the larger ideological principles fights between us
and the liberals i try to address often on the show joe climate skeptics climate
change skeptics in other words guys like you and me who are skeptical not that the climate is
changing the climate always changes but we're skeptical of the level of human impact again i'm
not skeptical to just to be crystal clear folks i'm not skeptical at all that human beings have an impact on the environment.
I mean, you'd have to be an idiot to say otherwise.
Giraffes have an effect on the environment.
So do hippos and mosquitoes.
Everything has an effect on the environment.
We're in a world of cause and effect.
Our very act of living and breathing has an effect on the environment. We expel carbon dioxide.
We inhale oxygen in the respiration process plants do the opposite this is not complicated we you know we
had an effect on the environment when we lived tribally and we were burning wood to cook meat
we had we killed animals we emitted you know smoke and and byproducts of fire, soot
and things like that into the air.
I'm just disputing
the levels, the models
that the Democrats use to insist that we're
all going to die. We're all going to die.
Thousands of Americans will die.
Thousands of Americans will die. Thank you.
I was hoping you would find that one. I knew you were going there
with that one. Bernie, as he always, thousands of Americans will
die over and over.
Interesting piece at the Washington Times show that people who are inherently skeptical
of the Democrats hyperbolic arguments about thousands of Americans will die from climate
change are actually, Joe, more.
I'm not making this up.
This is a Washington Times story.
It'll be in the show notes at my website.
Are actually more likely to recycle,
use public transportation,
and use eco-friendly products
than people who are, quote,
highly concerned about the environment.
Now, interesting about this story, right?
I was going through,
I have a lot of stuff to get to,
so sometimes when I'm going through stories,
if I see a story like this
that on its surface is interesting,
but I don't think I have a deeper point,
I'll bring it up on the show,
but I like to do kind of deeper dives
into the ideological components of a story.
And I didn't see anything interesting
about this outside of the headline.
So I'm going in the bathroom this morning
to wash my face, right?
I gotta wake up.
I need some water.
And I only had read the headline. That's a shame on me, right? That climate skeptics are more likely
to be basically environmentally friendly than people who actually claim to be environmentally
friendly. Reminded me of an email I got from a guy. He's like, I'm dancing, Dan. I'm like,
yeah, what are you doing, bud? So my wife had been corresponding with him on email.
He emails us, Joe.
He's like, I'm a conservative.
My girlfriend's a liberal
and she is the biggest water waster ever.
He said, so just to drive her crazy,
she'll go in the shower
and she'll leave the water running for like a few minutes
before she even gets in there to make sure it heats up.
He goes, so I go back in there
and I turn the water off
just to make sure she saves water
because she's a liberal
and she cares about the environment. So that's why I was thinking about this story I'm like this
guy's a conservative he cares more about it than uh than his girlfriend does and apparently it's
driving her now listen I'm not trying to ruin your relationships I'm just saying I thought it was
kind of a funny story he said she's brushing her teeth she leaves the water running he goes over
he turns it off so just I'm like this is i can't believe it he's
like i'm dancing baby i don't know how long you'll be dancing tonight but that's why i read this
headline so i'm in there washing my face and i'm thinking what could be the reasons for this keep
in mind i haven't read the story now some of you are probably putting it together now why would
people who are generally conservative if not libert leaning, why do you think they would personally, Joe, take actions that are more environmentally friendly than liberal climate change acolytes who generally abhor personal responsibility and align more with collective action?
Well, I just answered my own question.
What do we think about the very essence of conservatism, folks?
The whole bedrock principle of conservatism is individual responsibility.
You are responsible for yourself.
You are responsible to take.
You do not rely on the government.
are responsible for yourself. You are responsible to take, you do not rely on the government.
You know, the government is nothing but an emergency break on, you know, for people who,
you know, people who happen to be maybe handicapped, disabled, children left without their parents,
you know, seniors who have, you know, who can't take care of themselves anymore. The government should only be, it should not be a hammock. It should just be a safety net for people who
legitimately can no longer care for themselves.
The government should provide for a military court system and areas of mass consensus as outlined by the Constitution.
That's it.
Other than that, we believe in individual responsibility.
So what do they say?
So later on, I'm like, all right, you know what?
I better read this piece to see what they, because I had already said that.
I'm not trying to be like a smart guy or anything. That's what I was thinking, too, by the way.
It was more responsible.
Of course.
Everybody listens.
Like, yeah, conservatives, we believe in individual responsibility.
We don't want to waste.
Why waste?
If we can recycle it, recycle it.
Why waste water?
I mean, it's my water bill.
Right.
The free market, I got to pay for it.
Why waste water?
You know, I love my house.
I love my lawn.
I try to use environmentally friendly stuff on my lawn because, you know, it's important for me to just try to do that. I know they shock a lot of people, but to do the right thing, if you can. I mean, I have the income, thankfully, to pay a little extra for what I think to be our environmentally friendly products. I'm not suggesting you have to do that or anyone else.
I'm just saying it's a personal decision by me.
But yes, I am a climate change skeptic to some degree.
But I feel I have a personal responsibility to do it.
That is not the essence of leftism, folks.
The essence of progressivism progressivism liberalism headphones
driving me crazy today gosh i feel like i got like cauliflower here the essence of liberalism
is avoiding personal responsibility claiming victim status and using the government to protect
you against everybody who's victimizing you so why take personal responsibility the world isn't
being destroyed in the environment climate climate change, because of you.
Because you're on the right side of it, Joe.
You're a believer. So therefore
recycling? Ah, that ain't for me.
Saving water? That ain't for me
either. Eco-friendly products?
Who cares about that? It's the Republicans that are
doing it. I'm on the right side of this
ideologically. My fight is an
ideological one, not a real one.
But that's the very opposite of conservatism where we dance in the ideological one, not a real one. But that's the very opposite of
conservatism, where we dance in the real world, not the ideological world. We fight in the
ideological world, in politics and things like that, but we understand that the essence of
survival is individual responsibility for you and your family. They don't believe it. They believe
they should rely on the nanny state to be surgically attached to the caboose of the government.
The government should provide income.
The government should provide health care.
The government should provide education.
This story did not surprise me one bit.
By the way, it'll be in the show notes.
Washington Times, thanks to the listeners who sent it in.
I strongly encourage you to take the link and send it around to all your friends.
Hey, Libs, why do you think this is?
Ask them.
No, serious question.
Why do you...
It's a survey.
It's not...
The facts are the facts.
Why do you think it is that conservatives
are more environmentally friendly
while being skeptical of climate change
exaggerations by the left,
while people who claim to be, quote,
highly concerned about the environment are not?
The answer, again, is right in front of us it's it's uh it's it's simple okay uh let's see oh this is a another story this will be on the nra tv show tonight by the way thanks to everyone who
tuned in last night to my debate with uh shannon watts the anti-gun anti-civil liberties advocate
of course she didn't show
up. We had to debate a photo of her. But if you watch the NRA TV show last night, nratv.com,
it's free, of course, if you go there. You can watch the episode from last night, the back
episodes. We just redid the website. Please watch this debate. The production staff there did such
an unbelievable job, Joe. They put up a picture of her from her Twitter that was so good, it freaked me out.
Like for a second, you felt like you were really debating.
It looked like you look right now on the camera.
It looked like you were right in front of me.
I was like, oh my gosh, you guys.
I'm even like astonished
because they didn't let me see it beforehand.
They showed me on the air, so I was shocked.
I was like, man, you guys did a good job.
But I debate an empty chair
and a picture
of shannon watts anti-gun anti-civil liberties advocate last night which went over really well
so i really appreciate it but i'll be covering this story a little bit too tonight 5 30 p.m
eastern on my show a more liberal hypocrisy folks this is uh this is really disgusting they have
you saw with the logan act so they they went after went after Mike Flynn and now John Kerry is in grotesque violation of it.
Investigate him and if need be, arrest John Kerry right now.
You like the new rules, then you're going to play by him.
Well, there's another case.
Someone else needs to get arrested.
Sorry, folks.
Has to happen.
Sorry.
Don't like it too bad
so sad you know danesh de souza the filmmaker yeah an author so danesh was uh arrested and
prosecuted for remember this story joe actually talked yeah yeah he did yeah you're right um i
actually talked about this while filling in when i was still doing local work on WCBM, which Joe works. This was my lead story that morning. I was in for Sean and Frank over there.
I think it was Wendy Long. And if I remember correctly, I was running in that same cycle as she was. She was a Republican candidate running for the New York Senate seat, the federal Senate seat, not a New York State Senate seat. And D'Souza was involved with some fundraising event. asked people to donate and apparently had reimbursed them or something i guess was not
familiar with the intricacies of election law at the time for those of you don't know it there's
a federal election limit joe if you were to donate say i were to run again which i'm not but if i was
you can only donate to me joe twenty seven hundred dollars that's it for each election okay
which means you could donate 55,400. Why?
Because I would run in a primary and a general.
I thought it was more than that.
Yeah, no, it's only $2,700 per person.
You can only donate that to me.
Got it.
So it's for, you know, listen, I think they're really stupid.
They're dopey.
You can either have disclosure.
In my opinion, folks, either disclose the names of people who are donating and scrap the limits or keep the limits and keep everyone anonymous.
You see where I'm going with this, Joe?
Yeah.
In other words, if your goal is by instituting these hard ceilings on what Joe can donate to me, you're doing it because you think it's going to reduce Joe's influence on me, right?
Like, Joe, you can only do it matter how rich say Joe's worth 10 million.
Joe can still only donate to me $2,700 per election. That's it. No matter what.
Dinesh probably has some money and Dinesh want to support the candidate. So according to that thing, according to the documents there, Dinesh asked some other people to donate and then reimburse
them. That according to federal law
is illegal.
Folks, but this is typically a process thing.
They pay back the money and it's really
not prosecuted typically in a court, but Dinesh
D'Souza is a conservative. So Dinesh
was in fact prosecuted. And
yes, you're right, Joe. He was sentenced
to some kind of like halfway house service
or whatever it was.
Oh, now we find out Rosie O'Donnell, even worse.
Rosie, apparently to evade that $2,700 ceiling on donations because she had extra money and wanted to donate it,
was filling out donations for fake names? These are credible allegations out there that she was donating in fake names to supersede the guideline of $2,700 per person.
Per person meaning the donor, not the recipient.
She's got to get arrested.
Folks, you like the new rules?
Listen, I'm sorry. I am sorry, Democrats, that you have chosen to weaponize government. We have warned you forever, conservatives, libertarians and good Republicans out there. the tools of government to attack your political opponents, not based on credible enforcement of
the law and a legitimate public threat, but based on political differences? Come on, Joe.
Do you think prosecuting Dinesh D'Souza was really worth our tax dollar time?
We've got a drug problem. We've got a problem in this country with street crime, with gangs.
You're wasting federal dollars and federal resources on Dinesh D'Souza, you dopes.
You're wasting federal dollars and federal resources on Dinesh D'Souza, you dopes.
Are you serious?
But now that these are the new rules, folks, I would strongly suggest you write your congressman and say, when's the investigation of Rosie starting?
Listen, I get it.
I get it that there are even going to be some conservatives who object to this.
I get it.
That's fine.
You know my email.
You know where to find me.
I'd love to hear it my point here folks is that there are no rules anymore the
government is in cahoots with big government liberals because big government liberals empower
them ref he's hit me with the razor blades i don't say it i don't say it i don't say it
sooner or later you got to go put the razor blades on your gloves too if you expect to survive
sooner or later you got to go put the razor blades on your gloves too if you expect to survive those are the new rules the new rules joe are uh federal election commission violations on
donations are prosecutable by jail time simple as that rosie needs to be investigated and if
if those allegations prove to be true should be arrested and prosecuted in the court no doubt
about it no apologies no. We're not interested.
The same thing needs to happen to John Kerry.
Folks, you see the theme of the show today?
Outside of the environmental story I discussed.
The theme of the show with the Mike Flynn.
Now there may have been a potential warrant to spy on Mike Flynn.
Wait, what?
You're kidding, right?
I mean, you want to talk about a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
This guy's been thrown to the wolves for nothing.
He did nothing wrong.
I mean, outside of maybe some process crimes on some lobbying things,
Mike Flynn is certainly not worthy of a federal investigation, especially the fact that they can't seem to get their story straight because there's conflicting
stories from the Department of Justice or the FBI why they were investigating Mike Flynn.
Some people believe it was because of the sanctions, and hat tip to Nick Short,
who pointed this out in some screenshots. There are conflicting stories, Joe, as to why they were even investigating Flynn.
Nobody seems to have the story straight.
You know why, Joe?
Because he was a political opponent.
These are the new rules.
John Kerry has to be prosecuted, too.
Because one of the stories is it was a Logan Act violation.
The Logan Act, again, private citizens not being able to discuss with foreign diplomats the business of the U.S. government or trying to influence policy.
John Kerry needs to go to jail, too, and be investigated.
Go to jail if he's found guilty.
Because unlike the liberals, Joe, he's entitled to a trial.
But he must be arrested.
And there's enough probable cause, I believe, right now to arrest John Kerry.
Now, I know liberals are probably horrified by this.
How do you think we felt when you arrested Mike Flynn
and actually got him to plead guilty for a crime he didn't even commit?
How do you think we felt?
Oh, you don't like it.
Oh, now all of a sudden because it's your guy.
Now you don't like it.
We can't arrest you.
Who do you guys put your thugs?
What are your thugs?
They're your rules.
You arrested D'Souza?
Prosecuted Dinesh D'Souza?
Same thing. Rosie's gotta go.
She's got a trial?
Fine, that's okay.
She deserves her day in court as well.
Turns out she's innocent? I'm okay with that too.
But you should write your congressman
demanding an investigation into Rosie O'Donnell.
Let's see how much they like it.
Now, by the way, notice what I'm not
saying, because I want to be careful here. This is critical.
I'm suggesting to you, Joe,
that these would be lawful
investigations. John Kerry,
I sincerely believe,
violated the Logan Act.
I also believe the Logan Act is total BS.
But it is a law on the books.
I am not demanding that we forfeit
the Constitutional Republic
and make up laws like Obama did
with his prosecutorial discretion
on immigration, DACA, and DAPA.
That's not what I'm saying.
The Logan Act is an actual law. I believe it's BS. I believe the Flynn prosecution was BS. But if it's a law
that now we're enforcing against Republicans, that law should also be enforced against Democrats.
We're not suggesting anything illegal, Joe. Give him his day in court. Let him take it to the
Supreme Court. I believe the case will be thrown out because I believe the Logan Act is unconstitutional.
But if the new rules are, these are the laws that are going to apply, then they apply to everyone.
I'm going to get to it. Please don't. I know some of you can't listen to the whole show sometimes,
but please don't miss the end of this. It's going to be super important. Secondly,
Dinesh D'Souza did break the law. I simply believe at being a former federal agent and working with federal
prosecutors who've turned down very serious cases I brought to them. Joe, I brought to them hundreds
of thousands of dollars in credit card fraud, people bankrupted where federal prosecutors said,
Dan, we don't have the time. I'm sorry. You got to bring it to the state. The fact that I know
that happens because I was a federal agent and some federal prosecutor was like, no, no, Dinesh D'Souza, this is a case we're going to work.
This guy's a threat to humanity is ridiculous.
But yes, he did break the law and acknowledge that.
So now, Joe, if the new rules are now we're going to enforce the Logan Act, which we've never enforced.
These are the new rules.
And the new rules are you're going to go to jail for political donations that are really process crimes then the new rules need to apply
to rosie too we're not inventing any new laws joe we're not usurping any power we're not inventing
a new system of government we are simply playing by the rules the democrats said were fair and
square arrest rosie o'donnell I believe there may be probable cause there.
Arrest John Kerry too. Give them their day in court, but let them fight it out.
Maybe the Democrats will see the folly of their ways. Notice what I am not asking for though,
and I mean this. I would never, ever ask a Republican administration outgoing in a presidential campaign to spy on their opposing Democrat candidate, say in 2020 Bernie Sanders runs, it would be the end of the Republic if
Republicans and conservatives like me, notice I didn't say Republican, but conservatives like me started recommending a spying scandal on Bernie Sanders, his national security advisor, say he was the president-elect, God forbid, and others.
That's different, folks.
I believe what happened to President Trump was entirely illegal, was immoral, was unethical, was unconstitutional.
was unconstitutional and the minute we start to not not stoop to a new low but create a new low that there's no i i don't believe there is any legitimate constitutional authority for the entire
obamagate spying scandal then the republic is really done because then it's total chaos
i'm simply suggesting to you now what is on the books if those are the rules we're going to
enforce the logan act and fec violations if those are rules on the books. If those are the rules we're going to enforce, the Logan Act and
FEC violations, if those are rules on the books that are really not national priorities, but
you're going to make them, then good. Rosie O'Donnell needs to be investigated and so does
John Kerry, period. But this should never happen that we create new authority to spy on people
in violation of the Constitution. Now now there's a remedy for this
and i believe this remedy should be seen through the remedy for this is joe obviously people who
engage in that behavior in the obama administration should be prosecuted 100 that's the remedy the
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washington times piece uh the debt and deficit joe are being driven by government spending
if you're listening you're like okay i've been listening to your show forever that's kind of
obvious well the april numbers are clearly uh clearly show that the april tax numbers are
mind-boggling. Joe. Yeah.
I'm saying this wrong here, but just so you all know, this is not a misstep.
Did you know, Joe, there was a surplus in April?
A government surplus?
I did not know that.
Well, it happens pretty much every April.
Why do you think that is?
What's April 15th?
Tax day, yeah.
So people pay their taxes, a lot of folks in april so despite the fact that the government is swimming in red ink debt uh debt which is accumulated over time and deficits which
are annual the government in april runs a surplus often it's not uncommon because that's when people
you know pay out people send massive checks to the government i wish they didn't have to but
they do including us we were like oh my gosh every When I was a kid, I used to get excited about what I was owed by the
government, thinking it was some kind of like a savings account. Now, every year I dread it. I
tell my accountant, I'm like, Josh, what do we owe? I'm like, oh, oh, oh, it's the worst thing
ever. Every year it gets worse and worse. So it stinks. But we ran a record surplus in April.
Now you say, Dan, I'm confused.
You let off saying that government spending
is driving debt and deficits, not tax cuts.
Let me add that.
It's the government spending.
And now you're telling us we have a surplus.
Yes.
Why do we have a surplus?
Because Joe, since the tax cuts took effect in January,
what's been happening?
The economy's been growing. What's been happening since the tax cuts took effect in January, what's been happening?
The economy's been growing.
What's been happening since the economy's been growing?
People have been getting raises.
What's been also happening?
People who weren't working were getting jobs now.
People who were taking money from the government, who were either unemployment, disability,
who are now reentering the workforce, are now, Joe, paying money to the government through taxes.
Oh, there we go.
The government ran a record, folks, in April alone, $218 billion surplus.
$190 billion was the prior record in 2001.
This is fantastic news. Now, we are still spending a grotesque amount of money. And let me be clear,
we are going to run a massive deficit this year. The point I'm simply trying to make to you folks
is the liberal prognostications that the tax cuts, Joe, we're going to cause massive deficits ever
are not true. The government is generating historic amounts of money. Why is there going to
be a deficit this year? Because we're spending 5% more than we were a couple of years ago,
you knuckleheads. Not you, my listeners, but the knucklehead liberals out there.
Wait, I thought the tax cuts were going to cost us money. Yeah, we're running a surplus actually
in April because tax revenue is so high. Libs, don't let facts get in the way of your dopey arguments.
I know nothing will dissuade you from continuing to lie about that simple fact, but it's just
not true.
The debt and the deficits are not being driven by tax cuts.
The tax cuts have led to a massive amount of income flowing into the government as more
people earn money.
Oh my gosh.
One final note here.
I talked to you a few weeks ago about rescission, Joe,
which should be used more often.
Unfortunately, it's not.
Rescission is the ability of the president
to basically not spend money allocated by Congress
to send that money back.
And there's a rescission from the federal government.
That money isn't spent.
It's the equivalent of saving money.
If I give you, say, $1,000 in per diem, Joe, and you come back and you're a frugal employee
and you go, well, Dan, I didn't spend it.
I only spent 500.
Here's 500 back to the company coffers.
That's good.
We only spent $500.
Great.
We love you for it.
I had said to you a few
weeks ago that this rescission, it was growing up on Capitol Hill, a rescission package after the
outrage over the omnibus spending plan, which was ridiculous. It was, Trump was upset about it. You
know, I don't think he should have signed it, but he did. And he said, I won't sign anything like
this again. This is the last budget that happened a month ago. Now, I
said to you, call your congressmen,
your congresswomen, call your senators and tell
them they should
sign a rescission package by Trump.
Joe, shockingly,
it looks like this
is going to happen. So,
big round of applause to
you all for dancing a little bit. Now,
it's not a huge amount of money, folks.
I want to be clear.
I got an email this morning.
It looks like it's going to be about $15 billion, which, again, is kind of, sadly, is a drop in the bucket.
But it's a start.
And this is what dancing means.
Go out there and dance a little bit.
By the way, there's a dance shirt, too.
Fight back.
Dance, baby, dance.
Pick up that shirt, too.
Get a few of them if you want. But this is what it means. The do matters. Fight back. Dance, baby. Dance. Pick up that shirt too. Get a few of them if you want.
But this is what it means. The do matters. The do, not the talk. Talk is great. We love talk,
but it's the do. You have to do stuff. And your emails and your calls and your emails to your
senators and your tweets to them and whatever they were made a difference. It looks like they
may sign it. I'll keep you updated. But if it's $15 billion we can
spend, it's $15 billion we didn't spend. We don't have to pay interest on with our kids later. It's
a start. So good job, folks. Really, I mean that. I want to leave you on a good note. And even better
news about the budget and the surpluses. Let's hope we can keep it up and maybe next year get
some actual spending. Imagine fiscal restraint and tax cuts. The economy would go crazy.
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