The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 728 Don’t Let the Liberal Media Play Word Games
Episode Date: May 25, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the scheme the liberal media and its police-state allies in the Democrat Party are running to hide the disturbing truth from the American people. I also address some... big conservative wins in the culture wars. News Picks: Why are they hiding the origins of the Spygate scandal? We won this fight with the snowflakes. Some NFL players are already looking for alternative ways to protest. Is ESPN waking up? Are they kidding? The police-state Dems are now calling for another witch hunt against the Republicans. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today well
i'm doing well my friend very well we got all this disgusting sound effects yes we did for the
recording of the show yeah if you only heard the outtakes you know i don't mean like that in a vile
language kind of way.
I just mean like, you know, when we record in the morning,
we get the show out to you by noon Eastern time.
So, you know, it's the morning.
And, you know, you get up early, you're like, brr.
Yeah.
Why don't we have, what is that, Gary from the Howard Stern show
with all those nasty sound effects he always has.
It's Flynn Theater.
Here we go.
Oh, it's gross.
Oh, man, I got a stack show for you today.
I want to address the, yeah, right, funny stuff.
I want to address the Democrats' strategy, what they're doing now.
Now that they've been entirely exposed as police state tyrants, they've been exposed.
A spy, spy, S-P-Y, spy.
Not an undocumented FBI employee.
Not a human confidential informant.
It's a spy.
Spy was inserted or attempted to insert himself
inside the Trump sphere.
I want to discuss this
and how the Democrats are fighting back against this
because they use this strategy on everything.
So this show is going to be a morph.
It's going to be
about their tactics on the Spygate scandal,
but it's more going to be about how Democrats
use the same strategy over and over on every issue.
And why?
Why are we going to talk about this today?
So you're aware of it beforehand so you don't get tripped up by police state tyrant Democrats, okay?
Here's the strategy.
Deny and counter accuse.
Deny the obvious and then accuse your opponent of the exact same thing you did.
I'm going to give you examples of this.
Second, euphemisms.
They love their euphemisms.
Work, pay, silence.
Extremism.
Undocumented people.
Euphemisms.
Kinder, gentler words. it's not a spy it is a operational human confidential informant source thingy oh spy what is wrong with you it's a spy they love it this is
the that's all they have because they don't the, the real words, illegal alien. Oh, no, no.
We can't call them illegal, but they're here illegally.
Doesn't matter.
They love it.
So deny and counter accuse, engage in a battle of euphemisms,
and then start picking nits.
You know, nits.
Have you kids ever had lice?
Oh, yeah.
The nits, you know, then they do the nitpicking.
I'm going to walk you through this.
I've got a lot of
sound and i'm getting the show is gonna it's gonna be one of our better shows because i'm
gonna show you how they do this on everything on illegal immigration on taxes they this is
their strategy every time and they're doing it now on the russia thing and and folks this should
infuriate you. It really should.
Because they've been busted in the biggest spying scandal in U.S. history.
And they're dancing around.
It's not a spy.
It's an FBI undocumented source.
What?
What are you talking about?
You knuckleheads.
All right.
I got examples.
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for you again. Deny and counter accuse. Engage in a euphemism fight and then start picking nits.
Counter-accused, engage in a euphemism fight, and then start picking nits.
Nit picking started yesterday.
Here's the deny and counter-accused phase. So there was a meeting yesterday at the White House with Justice Department officials, Devin Nunes and Trey Gowdy, the chairman of their respective committees.
and Trey Gowdy, the chairman of their respective committees.
The core focus of the meeting was the Congressional Oversight Committee looking into Spygate,
the spying on the Trump team by Obama, is demanding documents from the DOJ and the FBI,
which for some reason, Joe, apparently think they are an independent branch of government free from oversight.
The DOJ is operating like its own private star chamber.
The FBI and upper level managers at the FBI seem to think they are free of oversight as well.
We're independent.
You're not independent.
You're not.
You work under the executive office of the president.
You are not independent.
You are politically accountable like everyone else. I'm sorry that that offends your delicate sensibilities. So at that meeting, some Democrats insisted on being present, which I don't particularly mind, but I just know they'll leak the contents of the meeting because that's what the Democrats do.
what the Democrats do. Out of the meeting yesterday, Jerry Nadler, who I'm not sure he was actually at the meeting, but Nadler, who's one of the biggest hacks in Congress, right? Democrat Congressman
Jerry Nadler puts out a statement. Let me read this to you. This is in the Washington Examiner.
The piece will be at the show notes. Read it because it shows you how desperate the Democrats
are right now to hide the destructive Spygate scandal and how this is going to forever destroy
their images. The party of the little going to forever destroy their images the party
of the little guy no you're the party of the big government police state you hacks cut the garbage
stop the nonsense here's a statement by nadler president trump house intelligence committee
chairman devin nunes and other house republicans have information about a confidential human source
listen to this joe somehow that same information, including his identity,
was conveyed to the media, Nadler said. The president and his accomplices in Congress have
featured the resulting press in yet another attempt to derail special counsel Robert Mueller's
investigation. Dude, dude, get a grip, okay? Nadler, you clueless swamp monster. Let me just give you a little pro tip.
So this is the deny and counter accuse, right?
Yeah.
The Obama administration, in conjunction with the Clinton team,
hacks in the DOJ and the intelligence community,
spy on the Trump team and illegally leak information in October and January.
Felony leaks to the media about the existence of said investigations into Trump
and in turn Mike Flynn in January. Okay. Spy on Trump illegally leaked to media committing a
felony. The Democrats know they're busted. You're busted, busted, busted. Thank you.
You're caught. You are dead to rights. You're caught. Everybody knows what you did. So what does he do now? Nadler,
this hack Democrat goofball, starts calling for an investigation into Nunes and the Republicans
and the Trump White House because the investigation where they used a spy, the name of the spy, Halper, Stefan Halper, was leaked to the media.
Now, Joe, I tweeted this morning.
Let me show you.
Can I just read what I tweeted?
Because this goes to show you how dumb they are.
Because they are dumb.
I mean, I'm sorry, folks.
Again, I don't mean to sound sound but this is just not smart meaning dumb
so i tweeted back to nadler this morning in response to this he wants the republicans
investigated because the name of the spy the democrats immorally unethically and potentially
illegally and tried to insert into the trump campaign now that the name is leaked that
clueless democrat congressman apparently unaware of the consequences of a government spy attempting to
contact an opposition political campaign, Joe,
via email in order to spy.
That kind of leaves an email trail, you genius.
Godzilla facepalm, Joe.
You think if you try to insert a spy, Joe, kind of, sort of, in a political campaign
by email, hey, when Halper emails Papadopoulos and Carter Page, right, tries to contact them,
you think that might leave a trail?
I'm just asking, Joe.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, okay.
Wasn't a trick question.
Yes.
Joe, you were not a Central Intelligence Agency officer at any point, correct?
No, never coached an agent.
Not DIA, not NSA, none of the 17 intelligence.
Okay, Joe is legitimately an executive producer of a radio program.
This is not a spy game.
So Joe has figured it out, because Joe is a bright guy,
that using a spy to email contacts in the Trump campaign may not be a good idea if later on
those contacts in the Trump campaign possibly forward those emails onto the media and go,
hey, this looks awfully suspicious.
But then Jerry Nadler wants an investigation into the Republicans who were spied on.
Again, bullet point number one of the democrat strategy on everything
deny and counter accuse engage in policies that harm immigrants and minority communities
accuse republicans of being anti-immigrant anti-minority engage in policies that destroy
opportunities for women economic health care educationally, accuse the Republicans of being in a war on women.
They do this all the
time. All the time.
Nancy Pelosi,
she's a
big pro-tax advocate.
Trump enacts a tax
cut, complain about how it's not large enough.
What? You were just, deny
and counter-recruit. That's all they do.
This is a hack- hack broken pitiful shell
of a party i'm not talking about all the democrat people out there i say this in every show and i
mean yeah democrat voters a lot of them are tired of this garbage too i get that i'm talking about
the wing of this party the capitol hill demon rats who were lost that that is a just a collective
crew of idiots like i've never seen and believe believe me, the establishment GOP swamp isn't much better.
So I don't think they get a pass.
But the Democrats up on Capitol Hill are no more than police state tyrants anymore.
They are thugs.
They've engaged in thuggery.
They've engaged in all kinds of weaponization and abuses of government.
And they can't accept the fact that they've been caught
you knuckleheads emailed the trump team with your spy to try to get information it left an email
trail and now you want an investigation into how it leaked maybe don't email trump team members
working for the fbi as a spy spy i know that term bothers you. Maybe, Joe, maybe a good idea.
You think in the future you may want to think twice about trying to insert spies into opposing political campaigns?
Maybe next time use DMs on Twitter you can delete or something like that?
What a bunch of idiots.
Gosh, are these people dopey.
Now,
let me move on to point number two. Can you get that Shifty Schiff audio?
All set. So Adam Schiff,
Captain Hack, up
on the hill. The biggest liar,
I don't know, Swalwell and him,
Eric Swalwell are probably up there as the
two biggest hacks, but if there was
a hack fight, like an MMA
fight amongst hacks, I can see it now UFC
the weigh-in hack number one Adam shifty shift he comes in and then Swalwell with his boxing robe
comes out and hack number two Eric sloppy Swalwell comes in the ring he's loosening up his shoulders
doing shoulder circles they're ready in a hack match I'm not sure who comes out on top.
These are two colossal epic hacks,
both liars, both police state tyrants
who endorse openly spying on opposition political campaigns
because they're quasi-socialists.
These are police state tyrants
who love weaponizing government to attack innocent people.
That's what they do.
Schiff is an embarrassment to the country, an embarrassment to himself, an embarrassment to the Democrats, an embarrassment to Congress.
So is Swalwell.
These are awful human beings who, if we continue to elect people like this, you will be living in a police state,
in a totally tyrannical police state, because they love this stuff.
Now, Schiff goes to this meeting at the White House, where again, just to be clear,
the Republicans are demanding now access to the documents about how this investigation started.
Remember yesterday's show. Please listen to it.
What was paragraph one? What does paragraph one in the FBI report say about how this started? Yeah, Joe, exactly. What does it say? On such and
such a date, who produced what that led to this investigation starting? And by the way, my co-author
Denise McAllister has found some just more troubling information from the Department of Justice guidelines
on counterintelligence investigations show
how they are supposed to proceed
from the assessment stage to the preliminary
investigation stage to the full investigation
stage. This stuff's going to be in the book.
This is why the book is delayed
because we keep finding new and devastating stuff.
You're never going to believe how they moved
from stage to stage to stage with
no evidence to do it.
They moved from, hey, you think Joe may be a spy to a full-blown spying operation against joe without anything other than speculation it's incredible that's why this meeting was conducted to get from
the fbi guys ladies how the heck did this thing start what did you base this investigation nobody can tell you
the stories changed four five six times because it started as i said to you yesterday based on
the fact that they wanted to spy on the trump team and just needed an excuse they'd already
done it before they had spied on congress during the iran deal look it up john brennan
the john brennan's uh cia team spying on congress during the iran deal they've spied on Congress during the Iran deal. Look it up, John Brennan. The John Brennan CIA team spying on Congress during the Iran deal.
They've spied on Americans before with metadata abuses.
Jim Clapper lied about it up on Capitol Hill.
They were used to spying.
They needed an excuse to spy on the Trump team.
And the hiring of Carter Page and Papadopoulos, that was their excuse.
When you understand that the hiring of Carter Page, who had already worked with the FBI
in a spy case, and Papadopoulos, who they knew they could hit hard because he was a
newbie to this.
Yeah.
When you understand that the Obama administration saw this as an opportunity to spy, not a legitimate
threat from the Russians, the whole case makes sense.
That's why there's no paragraph one, because that's what paragraph one in the case
would say. It would say, we started this case when George Papadopoulos and Carter Page were
hired because we wanted to spy on the Trump team. Uh-oh, that doesn't sound right, because it's not.
That's the legitimate paragraph one. That's why the story keeps changing about how it started.
They are desperate, desperate, desperate to it started. They are desperate, desperate,
desperate to hide this. They are desperate to hide their involvement with British intelligence
providing information because they are desperate to hide it. Adam Schiff wanted to be at this
meeting yesterday at the White House where the question was asked, what's paragraph one?
How the heck did you guys start this investigation? So I want you to listen to this carefully.
Now, being that it's an audio show only, at least for now, at least for now, I want you
to note, and I got a hat tip CNN, we got this from CNN, but this is a cut of Adam Schiff
and a prepared, it's very short, it's what, Joe, about 15 seconds or something?
Yeah, something like that.
Adam Schiff, the biggest mouth in Congress,
the biggest, in the battle of the hacks,
the potential winner of the UFC heavyweight title.
A guy who is never at a loss for words advocating for the police state
comes out, gives a brief 15-second statement,
and he's reading from a script.
His eyes never divert from the script one bit.
I'm going to explain to you why that is after this cut.
Nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols.
There we go.
He gives nothing.
That's it.
That's his statement.
He reads from it prepared, which says to me it was prepared before they even went in the meeting.
He doesn't divert from it one bit.
And shifty shift.
Captain Hack, UFC gold medal heavyweight hack, has very little to add after that.
What did he say in that?
There's no evidence to support there was a spy.
Notice the words he used.
Pre-prepared.
He wrote these, I'm sure of it, before he even went in the meeting.
Or had someone write them for him.
Listen to me.
The Democrats and Shifty know they are caught. These liars know they are
caught. They are fully aware that they are looking at the most explosive political scandal in any of
our lifetimes. These are not, listen to me, they're liars, but they are not stupid. These
are not dumb people. A lot of them have been around the D.C. swamp for a long time.
They understand their reputation as the party of liberal values, the party of supporting the little guy.
They know right now all of this talk.
You know, let's rage against the machine, man.
Let's fight the man.
Now what, Joe?
They are the man and they know it.
And not only are they the man, they weaponize the man to spy on the political opposition.
And nobody likes tyrants and thugs.
Nobody.
Radical leftists do.
But amongst the normal people, nobody likes that.
They know this is a loser.
Joe, loser!
Big time L on the forehead.
Big L.
Big L.
They absolutely know this.
So what does he do?
Jerry Nadler engages in Democrat fight back technique number one,
denying counter-accused, denying we spied and leaked,
and accused the Republicans of leaking.
Then Adam Schiff, I'll get to the euphemisms in a minute
because that's a little longer, jumps right to point three,
which is nitpick the details
now i want to give a hat tip forgive me i don't know who the account on twitter was there are a
number of really good anonymous accounts on twitter that have significant followings that
have been breaking news on this i i cited undercover huber the other day there's another
guy lindsey he has a i don't even know if it's a he, he or she has a great account too. And I'm not
sure who said this, but someone on Twitter a few days ago in a genius stroke, and I want a hat tip
and forgive me if you're listening to my show and I think you do, you know who you are. So I'm not
trying to be coy. I just don't remember who tweeted it or else I would appropriately give
you the tip of the hat. But the other day, Joe, when the news broke, this is about four or five days ago,
when the news broke
about Stefan Halper being the spy,
one of these Twitter accounts tweeted,
like in big caps,
do not say he was inside the Trump campaign
because the Democrats are going to use that
to nitpick and destroy your credibility
because technically he wasn't inside.
He wasn't working for Trump.
They were trying to infiltrate the team.
Now, folks, that's a distinction without a difference.
They were trying to insert themselves inside the Trump.
But why would Democrats do that?
Jump to point three, nitpick the details.
Why, Joe?
Because if they can get you on little details
that are, Joe, irrelevant
to the conversation. The conversation,
right, Joe, is about the Trump
team was spied on.
Whether he was inside the campaign
formally or trying to insert
himself by connecting with people is an
irrelevant detail. Why did
Democrats nitpick, though, and focus on irrelevant
details? Because two reasons. Number one, they want you to get lost in the little things and they want to confuse the argument. irrelevant detail why did democrats nitpick though and focus on irrelevant details because
two reasons number one they want you to get lost in the little things and they want to confuse the
argument and secondly they want to destroy your credibility they do this all the time all the time
they do it on the gun control issue on the immigration issue on the tax issue uh let me
just give you a quick example on the tax issue.
How they will try to lose you. I've debated running for office three times,
twice against Democrats, because I lost my last primary, but I won two primaries and had to go up against Democrats. I have debated the tax issue countless times, maybe a hundred times with skilled
Democrats, you know, Ben Cardin's crew and John Delaney. These are not, these are not dumb people.
Joe knows them well. These are skilled Democrat politicians, right? Here's what they do on the
tax issue. I would bring up often the fact that Reagan cut taxes dramatically. Matter of fact,
he cut the top tax rate from 70% to 28%. When Reagan did
that, tax revenue to the government
didn't go down.
It doubled.
It went from $500
to $909 billion.
They will
dig into the details,
number one, and number two, in an effort
to destroy your credibility. They'll say,
keep in mind, they can't run from that.
That is just a known, just like they can't run from the fact that Halper was a spy.
They know it now.
So what do they do?
Nitpick.
They go, well, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers,
it wasn't really a doubling, but it went up dramatically. Okay, so it didn't go up by 100%. It went up by whatever,
26. No, no, no. It went up by 25.97. You see, he's a liar. He's a liar. They don't challenge
the premise. Now, keep in mind, the overall premise here, this is important, folks.
They will never challenge. This is why if you were ever debating democrats don't ever get lost in the
minutiae take it out to 30 000 feet every time because their effort to nitpick is not an effort
to win the debate it's an effort to destroy you when they start getting into the inflation debate
you go right back to no no simple question simple i'm not getting into your inflation adjuster
because i know what you're doing simple question democrats, Democrats. Reagan cut taxes from 70 to 28 percent at the top rate. Did the tax revenue to the government go from 500 billion to 900 billion or did it not? Simple yes or no is all I need. And they don't know what to do.
They don't know what to do.
Listen, I'm not claiming to be some master debater here,
but filling in for Mark Levin and Sean Hannity and having skilled seminar callers, liberals,
who are coached in talking points,
filling in at Joe's show,
you get used to this.
I'm telling you as a strict debating tactic,
do not get into the details of it
because they're not doing it to debate you.
They're doing it to catch you in one misstep irrelevant to the bigger argument so they can
destroy your credibility. You constantly take it out. You take it out to the bigger 60, 60,
75,000 feet argument. You say, see what he's trying to do now shifty shift well there's no evidence that he
was in the campaign what shift did spy work did did have stefan halper work for the fbi and contact
the trump team well there's no i don't know shifty shifty time out that's not what i asked you, a yes or no will suffice, Shifty, was an FBI spy contacting members of the Trump team trying to obtain information for the FBI.
A yes or no will suffice, Shifty.
A yes or no.
Well, he wasn't technically a spy.
He was an undocumented FBI.
Shifty, a simple yes or no will suffice.
Shifty!
Shifty! Shifty! A yes yes or no will suffice. Shifty! Shifty!
A yes or no will do.
By the way, just a side note here.
Where do I get that from?
My brother, Jimmy, who's a pretty cool cat.
He still lives in New York.
He's an electrician in Local 3, right?
When we were younger, you remember Mr. Softy?
Did you have Mr. Softy down here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The annoying bells?
Yeah. Well, when you were a kid,
everybody loved Mr. Softy. So my brother
Jimmy, I'm pretty sure
he thought that the guy, Mr.
Softy was a chain. Yeah.
But when he was younger, he thought the ice cream guy's name
was actually Mr. Softy.
So he used to come running out of the house,
Yo, Softy! Softy! He thought the guy's name was Mr. Softy. So he used to come running out of the house, yo, Softee!
Softee!
He thought the guy's name was Mr. Softee.
It's not his name.
It's the name of the...
But, yo, Softee!
I tell my wife this story.
That was my brother, Jim.
I'd never forget that
because I'd be outside
playing wiffle ball or whatever.
And all I would hear, Jimmy,
in this loud Queens, Italian kid,
New York voice,
yo, Softee!
Chasing the ice cream guy.
And that's where I get the Shifty thing from,
in case you're wondering
where this crazy show comes from sometimes.
Shifty!
Yes or no?
Was an FBI source reaching out for the Trump team,
probing for information?
A simple yes or no will do.
Do not get lost in the details.
This is a trick.
He read a carefully prepared statement
with those words
written in advance. There was
no evidence he was in the campaign.
In? Because now they're going to say
well, technically he didn't work for the
campaign. So there was no evidence it was a spy
in the campaign. No. Nobody's saying
that. You're making that up.
We're suggesting that an FBI
spy contacted the Trump team
probing for information to use in a
counterintelligence probe to spy on the political opposition. That's it. Shifty, we don't need
anything more from you. And they're using it to destroy your credibility. And I had tipped that
Twitter account just to close the circle on that, who weeks ago, maybe a week ago or so said,
who weeks ago, maybe a week ago or so, said,
be very careful about mentioning the fact that this spy was inside the campaign because the Democrats are preparing to use that talking point against you.
I have no idea how that person knew that, but it was genius.
I don't know if a Democratic source told them that or what.
But, you know, listen, and I read it in advance, so I was very careful.
That's why if you go back and listen to the shows from a few days ago, you'll notice I'm very careful about using those words in the campaign.
Because the Democrats are doing the nitpicking.
I haven't even really gotten to the euphemism part yet, but I'll get to that in a second.
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All right, so we're talking about the strategy here,
denying counter-accused, engage in the euphemism fight start nitpicking they're doing this now uh with
the euphemism game over the word spy now you can see uh schiff is getting nervous by the written
statement but the euphemisms they're using to distract from the use of the word spy joe is
being done precisely because the Democrats
think spy is a harsh word
that actually portrays what's going on.
And the Democrats don't want to lose their edges.
Really, it's as simple as this, folks.
They've always portrayed themselves
as these kind of hip, edgy,
you know, I always think of that group
Rage Against the Machine,
Tom Morello was, he was like,
they were big liberals.
One of them was at least.
And, you know, Rage Against the Man, we're fighting the man, you know, the sixties hippie
movement. Now the Democrats are bothered because they know in very specific focus groups, focus
surely on politics and electoral power, that if the Democrats lose their edge amongst kids who
want to seem rebellious and want to feel like they're part of a movement, that if the Democrats
are the movement
the kids are rebelling against they are going to lose an edge you know um i hope i may not be
explaining this well so let me you know my apologies again for doing this twice but it's
important the democrats have always been like the cool edgy hip party why because they fight against
man they fight for the little guy, the disadvantaged,
the minority community, the LGBT community, the immigrants. They don't do any of that. That's all nonsense, by the way. They do none of that. They actually disadvantage you by creating poor
economic conditions, poor schools, and even worse, healthcare. They do none of what they tell you.
But their overall imagery was based in this hippie-type movement in the 60s.
That post-FDR, like, now we're going to engage in this.
Look how cool we are.
We're fighting against systemic oppression.
It's the whole basis of this NFL protest.
The system's oppressing you in the NFL?
You make $5 million a year.
The system's oppressing.
Can you oppress me for $5 million a year?
What are you talking about?
Now, that whole fight against systemic oppression and these words that you know they
have a hard time defining is based on the fact that they're fighting the man they are the man
the word spy connotes the man wow the government's spying on people but democrats spy gate spy gate
we're responsible for spy gate they are going to run from this. They've used every single term. Jim Comey, by the way, a
humiliating, just
really disturbed public figure
now. Jim Comey's out there.
He tweeted out yesterday, how are Republicans
going to tell this to their kids? The proper term
is a confidential human source.
Guys, listen to me.
Exactly. Call it whatever you
want. It's a spy.
The reason I bring this up, and I'm going to move on
because I want to get to one more nitpicking
thing too. Sorry about that, Dano.
No, no, no. Ridiculous. You're right.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
Folks, do not stop
using the word spy. I don't
care what media hacks tell you.
They're nothing but
Pravda. It's a propaganda
effort to protect the Democrat Party. Ignore them. Don't use spy. It's not a spy. Use it every single day. Tweet it. Spygate. He was a spy. Unlike these people in the media who have no experience in this arena at all, I worked there. This guy was a spy. Full stop, period. He was a spy. Use it, use it, own it, because that's what the Democrats did. All right, so deny, counter-accused, euphemisms, and nitpick. Here's another nitpicking thing they're pulling out now. Again, when I say nitpick, they're finding little things and little details to distract you from the big argument.
argument wait one more thing before i get into this because this is an important one this nitpicking thing but donald trump joe again the genius of donald trump i was thinking about this
yesterday you know when you and i first met and i was running for senate we still haven't told
our origin story here you know but i met joe a while ago uh working for senate years ago and uh
he was at cbm where he still. And we just hit it off right away
and became friends
and started this podcast in my basement
thinking nobody would listen.
Now we're looking at the numbers yesterday.
We're like, OMG.
It's turned into a monster, Dan.
It's a monster.
You're right.
It is, totally.
When I first met Joe,
we used to talk about politics once in a while.
I'd say, you know,
the Democrats are geniuses at the when did you stop beating your wife question.
And when I say Democrats, I mean the media too, because they're the same thing.
What they'll do is they'll ask you questions and the answer will become the headline.
But the question is absurd.
And if you get sucked into an answer, you've already lost.
And the example used often in politics is, hey, Joey Bag of Donuts,
when did you stop beating your wife? Joey Bag of Donuts answers, I don't beat my wife. And what's
the headline? The headline in the Baltimore Sun is Joey Bag of Donuts, quote, I don't beat my wife.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, what happens there? Psychologically, people only read headlines.
They don't read the story anymore. We're in the Twitter generation. You pick up the Baltimore Sun
and on the front page
in response to question about spousal abuse
Joey Bagadona says
I don't beat my wife.
You're like he beats his wife.
Is there any more heinous thing to do?
You're like what?
Meanwhile
Joey Bagadona is scratching his head
and by the way
this is not making light of any
this is the example used often
because it's such a heinous thing to do that it exemplifies to people how having to even answer
a question when it's disingenuous can put you in a negative light even though the question's
ridiculous you see what i'm saying the headline all of a sudden people start going wait this guy
beats up his wife oh my gosh, he said he didn't.
Nobody reads the story. This tactic has been used, and that example has been used repeatedly
over and over to describe tactics used by the Democrats and the media to entrap Republican
opponents into negative soundbites and negative answers on questions that are irrelevant to them,
that are not true, but are used to hit them i make
this point because this is one of the first times this is the the gift of donald trump
is he is so unpredictable with his language his phraseology the way he answers questions
that this is the first time i've seen the media and the democrats, but again, they're the same thing. Have this tactic, Joe,
turned on them. Think about this with Spygate. When did you stop spying on Donald Trump? We
didn't spy every day in the paper. Every day, Democrats, we didn't spy. What does the general
public see? Right, Joe? Every day. What do you mean they didn't spy? They spied? Somebody spied? The Democrats cannot move away from this story.
Why?
Why?
Process this with me.
The Democrats hate Trump so much.
They are venturing into new realms of psychopathology.
They hate Trump so much that they cannot.
They are magnetically attached to this collusion story despite the
fact that it is never going to happen fetch it's never gonna happen for you mean girls fans
this is the fetch of modern times the russian collusion for is never gonna happen there was
no collusion they joe they simply cannot let it go so what is what did they get
baited into every day not an argument about minimum wage not an argument about taxes not
an argument about health care premiums that are going up by the way the democrats are completely
absent on that conversation every day it's we didn't spy we use the confidential human source
i'm not giving democrats keep it up by the way you're helping us that's why the generic Every day it's, we didn't spy. We used the confidential human source.
I'm not giving Democrats, keep it up, by the way.
You're helping us.
That's why the generic Republican ballot for Congress,
the Republicans are now up.
On some polls, to be fair.
Some polls show them still down. But the Republicans are unquestionably closing the gap on the Democrats.
Why?
Because your headline, you knucklehead Democrats, every day is,
Democrats, we didn't spy it was a
undocumented fbi employee every single day and and it's amazing that they've used this tactic
joe against us forever and they still astonishingly can't figure out you're getting played for fools
you're getting played for fools that You're getting played for fools.
That's why, again, this show is about the Russia thing,
but it's really not.
It's about the gift of Donald Trump
in defeating the Democrats, denying counter-accused,
euphemism, and nitpicking more.
It is now turning around on them.
Every single day in the paper.
Democrats, we didn't spy Barack Obama.
Barack Obama didn't spy. Susan Rice didn't spy. Every single day in the paper. Democrats, we didn't spy. Barack Obama. Barack Obama didn't spy. Susan
Rice didn't spy. Every single
day. You're
losing. The polls
are obvious. People are sick
of you and this stupid story.
Mueller, Bob
Mueller, you think you're... Close it down.
Fire this guy already.
You're
not winning.
fire this guy already you're not winning all right on the and i'll get to the not winning thing i'm gonna circle this here by the way on
another topic too but just to finally on the nitpicking thing there's another thing that
democrats are bringing up trump's lawyer emmet flood um apparently dropped in on the meeting
yesterday said some words and then left. Now the Democrats,
this is what they're relentlessly focused on.
Oh, Trump's lawyer was at the meeting.
Ignore it, ladies and gentlemen, ignore it.
Do not get bogged down in irrelevant details.
Every time they bring it up,
you're like, fine, yeah, great, okay.
So let me just ask you a question.
Again, shifty, yes or no.
Was an FBI spy contacting the Trump campaign in an attempt to get information used to spy on the Trump campaign? A yes or no was an fbi spy contacting the trump campaign in an attempt to get information used
to spy on the trump campaign a yes or no will do i'm not interested in what trump's lawyer said
you could knock yourself out have fun with that i'm not interested but that's another nitpick
they're trying oh gosh the trump's lawyer was in there oh okay so it's okay to spy on a campaign
but god forbid trump's lawyer drops in and gives a statement. By the way, he didn't even stay for the meeting.
Thelonious hackery.
Thelonious hackery in the empty room. You got it.
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Moving on.
On the winning front, this NFL thing, Joe.
Yeah.
I have another piece of Breitbart at the show notes today, Bongino.com.
It's really good.
The NFL players now, Joe, are thinking of new ways to circumvent the nfls uh you can't
kneel on the sidelines anymore or you'll be penalized on the field rule you have to if you're
going to kneel for the anthem you have to stay in the locker room so i'm going to debate uh sarah
mclaughlin about this not the singer remember sarah mclaughlin i remember the name yeah yeah
she was i used to lie i loved her she was the, she was so good. Her voice was angelic.
Although this, the new, I'll tell you who the,
I'm always getting sidetracked, but this is important.
There is a singer out there,
I mentioned her before on the show,
I think her name is Karina Wickies.
She's in a group called The Glades.
And I gotta tell you,
I haven't heard a voice like that in eons.
She has a video of YouTube on video on YouTube.
It's kind of a low budget video, but it's an acoustic version of a song she has.
They're on a dock.
They're playing in front of like a water or lake.
Man, a voice of an angel.
I think her name is Karina Wiki.
Someone sent it to me once and I was like, whoa, just
blew me away.
But I'm going to debate Sarah McLachlan.
She writes for the Fire.
Fire.org
or something like that. And she
came after me a little bit on Twitter
the other day suggesting that
my stance on the NFL
players was some form of
suppression, which I find utterly ridiculous.
So I invited her on my NRA TV show.
She had to commend her, said, yeah, I'll come on.
So we're hoping to get that done on Tuesday.
We'll have a live show tonight, 5.30 p.m.
Eastern time at NRA TV dot com.
I'll be covering a lot of this stuff and some additional content as well.
But I'm hoping to have her on on Tuesday.
And her point is basically this is some form of speech suppression by the NFL.
I think it's ridiculous.
It's absurd.
The NFL is a private organization.
A private organization.
They were allowed...
If that's speech suppression, Joe,
you work at WCBM, right?
WCBM has a target audience.
A target audience.
It's a conservative station.
Yes, it is.
If Joe came on the air,
now Joe has access to an open mic when he wants at WCBM.
I know I used to listen to the show in the mornings
when I was local.
If Joe got on the air
when the show opened up every morning
and right before Sean and Frank, the host, got on,
Joe got on and said,
communism rules, right?
Freedom of speech, right?
Hey, it's freedom of speech, right?
Hey, it's freedom of speech.
And then WCBM said, Joe, you can't do that.
You're free to say communism rules, but you can't say it over the air.
You have to go outside the studio because you're alienating our audience.
How is that suppression?
Joe can have whatever ideas he wants. They just can't use the WCBM platform to advocate for ideas that are going to destroy the company.
The NFL is the same
thing it's an nfl field on nfl time that networks paid for you don't have the right to go on the
field and crap on the american flag and piss off the whole audience do it in a locker room
these guys have twitter accounts joe they've got millions of followers you want to say hey i don't
i don't like america or whatever i don't like cops you want to say, hey, I don't like America or whatever.
I don't like cops.
Listen, I don't agree with you, but it's free speech.
Knock yourself out.
I'm an absolute supporter of free speech.
Do it on your own time.
They're not suppressing anybody.
So we're going to debate.
Hopefully she comes on on Tuesday, but we'll check that out.
But I wanted to bring that up not because of that.
You know, I'm almost surprised they don't have that disclaimer on there.
The views expressed by players, coaches, and others on the field are not necessarily that of the NFL.
Because Joe said, I know that's the disclaimer at WCVM.
Something like that, yeah.
But it should be.
And it wasn't there, Joe.
But they should be.
Right?
That's the WCVM one.
Did they still say that at the end?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there's a great disclaimer.
WCVM.
Did they still say that?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there's a great disclaimer.
The views expressed are not necessarily the views of the WCVM.
But they should be.
I remember that.
But I bring it up the NFL thing and ESPN thing as well, which I'll get to in a second. Because, again, just a note of some positivity for you before this Memorial Day weekend, right?
You are winning.
You're winning.
There's an article in the Wall Street Journal. I can't put it in the show notes. It's subscription only. It's a simple article
anyway. It's not like anything. The bottom line is this. ESPN, it's a lengthy piece about the
genesis of the fall of ESPN. And you can read the piece. They largely attribute a show
to opinion-based programming that delved heavily into politics rather than sports.
Now, there's a lot of other reasons, too.
Cord cutting and things like that.
But there's no question, based on the interviews and the piece, that ESPN lurched left and the audience said, no thanks.
See ya.
Have a nice day, daddy-o.
I'm telling you, you're winning.
This culture fight.
Remember yesterday's show I talked about the three spheres? There the political sphere we're winning we're winning that's just
evident political spheres are based on voting we own the house we own the senate we own the white
house we're switching over the courts to conservative judges now we own the governorships
we're winning the political fight the culture fight we got crushed in for a long time because of academia, Hollywood, and the entertainment community, and the liberal media.
But what's happening now is we figured it out.
The way to do it is to turn it off.
People are turning off ESPN.
They're turning off Hollywood movies.
The numbers are dramatic.
You're winning.
Hollywood movies. The numbers are dramatic.
You're winning.
ESPN, the people in the piece are unquestionably
attribute
a lot of the collapse to ESPN to
a leftward lurch in politics. You
won. Yeah.
Read the piece if you have a subscription
to the journal. It's there
clear as day. By the way, it's on Drudge today
too, so I don't know if that provides a free link or what.
But, you know, I'll put it in the show and I know I'm going to get it. The problem is I have to
answer that 100 emails as to why I'm including subscription content if it happens to be.
And I can never tell because I have a subscription to the journal, so I get it either way.
I'm just telling you, you're winning. You won on this NFL thing. Why? Because you are committed,
thick-skinned, brave conservatives who are
willing to take the fight to these people. I don't mean it, again, violence is a leftist thing.
So please spare me the Media Matters goons who listen to my show. That's your thing,
violent. You're the violent ones. I'm talking about your commitment to a fight.
Whereas liberals, after a week or two your commitment to a fight. Whereas liberals,
after a week or two, I got a boycott, whatever. You insert the product. Conservative beer company
A, because they came out with a pro-Trump statement. Guys, they're not in for this fight.
A week later, they're buying the beer again. They have no guts. Their skin is a millimeter thick.
They have no guts. They're snowflakes. They are not conditioned for this fight.
You all are ready.
You're ready to give up the NFL, to give up specific companies, to give up entire product lines. You're ready. You've been conditioned because you've been abused by these liberals
for years. Oh, you're a racist, misogynist, nonsensical, ridiculous, absurd attacks on you.
You're conditioned for this. Giving up the NFL was uncomfortable, but it was a fight worth having.
You did it and you won.
You're winning.
You're turning the tide.
All right, I just wanted to bring that up
to give you a little good news.
I got some other stuff I want to get to.
Hey, one more point on the Russia stuff
before I get to some other sound here.
Mm-hmm.
I got a question on email the other day.
People said, well, why are the DOJ and FBI stalling on this?
What paragraph one was how the Trump investigation started?
Simple.
They are waiting out the midterms.
The people in the bureau in the FBI, Joe, are desperate for the Democrats to take over Congress in the midterm, which would let them do what?
Democrats to take over Congress in the midterm, which would let them do what? Take over chairmanships on these investigative committees, which will shut down these investigations. Why am I telling you
this? You have got to get out and vote. Do not for a... I know the GOP swamp rats are no great
shakes. I get it. But the Democrats are police state tyrants. There is no comparison.
You have one party that really sucks,
and then you have one party that is an abomination to humankind.
I'll take the party that really sucks, okay?
I'm just telling you, folks.
This is the real world we live in of marginal choices.
What's marginally better?
You know, I always give the example,
we don't ask in a winter heat or no heat.
It's how much heat.
How much suck are you willing to tolerate?
You know, and I'm not willing to tolerate police state tyranny.
And that's what the Democrats are.
They use the government to spy on people.
You could be next.
You have to vote.
They are waiting out the midterms.
That's why it is so important that Gowdy and Nunes get
the information they need now. Okay. I covered this last night on my NRA TV show, but this is
kind of funny. I do a segment on my NRA TV show at night called the liberals versus liberals. I'll
do it like two or three times a week where I show segments of liberals taking the exact opposite
position on things, therefore debating themselves, hence the title liberals versus liberals. This one is a doozy. This is, I'm
going to play you some audio. First of Jim Clapper, who's now out to the former director
of national intelligence, trying to sell a book. He's on CNN with Jake Tapper, right?
He's questioned about how he knows that the Russians over basically impacted the result
of the election. You know, the whole Democrat talking point has been that the Russians hacked
the DNC. There's no law enforcement evidence of that, by the way, because law enforcement hasn't
hasn't looked at the DNC servers because the DNC won't let them kind of suspicious, right?
But their whole narrative has been Russians hacked the DNC servers, stole the emails, colluded with Trump, and that overturned the results of an election.
If that didn't happen, Hillary would have won.
Now, that's been their narrative post-election.
That was not their narrative pre-election.
I'm going to prove it to you.
Before the election, their narrative was the exact opposite.
Their narrative was nobody's going to overturn the results of a U.S. election.
Voter fraud isn't real, you dopes. So play clapper first, saying how the Russians unquestionably
overturned what would have been a Hillary Clinton victory. In the book, you write, quote,
of course, the Russian effort affected the outcome of the election, surprising even themselves.
They, the Russians, swung the election to a Trump win to conclude otherwise stretches logic, common sense and credulity to the breaking point.
Now, this is more than you stated when you were director of national intelligence and you and your fellow intelligence officials put out that report.
You avoided making a conclusion one way or the other about whether or not it had an impact.
Have you learned more information or is this just you speaking as a private individual?
Both. So to be clear, we did not, and that was very deliberate, did not make any assessment or
any call about what impact the meddling had on the actual outcome of the election. That wasn't
in our charter authority or capability to do. But that was,
that since I became a private citizen, knowing what I know of what the Russians did, that the
massive effort that they undertook and the variety of means that they used and the number of millions
and millions of voters that they got to, to me, it stretches credulity, as I said in the book,
and logic that
not to think that they didn't help swing the election given the fact that turned
on a less than eighty thousand votes in three states
so that's a what i would call an informed opinion i didn't
i don't have the empirical evidence to go with it but it's just
thinking about it and seeing and understanding better since i left the
government that the full magnitude of what they did,
in my mind, in my opinion, that they did affect the election. Okay, so Jim Clapper, Obama hack, DNI, Director of National Intelligence, knee-deep in Spygate.
He says, of course they swung the election, although we had no capabilities in the DNI to determine that.
I have no empirical evidence that it happened, but I'm sure it happened.
Uh, okay.
You sure?
Now let's have him debate Barack Obama a month before the election, talking about how stupid what Jim Clapper just said is. no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even you could even rig
america's elections in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved
there's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which
that will happen this time.
There's no evidence. None.
No evidence it happened in the past, the future, ever.
And by the way, Joe, no serious person would even allege that.
Apparently, Jim Clapper's unserious.
Folks, you see what's going on here.
Before the election, right,
they were convinced Hillary Clinton was going to win.
When Donald Trump alleged there may be voter fraud or election irregularities, the Obama campaign did nothing.
Zero.
Zip about it.
Now, there may have been voter fraud, but it wasn't the Russians swinging the election.
That's nonsense.
That's Obama.
You heard his own words. You don't have to listen to me.
Listen to Obama. Clapper
now needs this narrative.
He needs it because they're
all in a panic.
Let me set you up for what's going to
happen. Get ready. You heard it here first. We're at
least two weeks, if not two months, ahead of the news cycle,
Joe. Oh, yeah.
Now that they've been called out,
they're in the deny, counter-accuse,
euphemism and nitpicking stage. That's going to fail because the facts are on our side.
The Trump team was spied on. There is absolutely no refuting that. Okay.
Sooner or later, they're going to have to accept that this happened. They're going to ride it out
first. They're going to play the game that I euphemism nitpick for as long as they can. So the story loses its edge sooner or later when the
story loses its edge and they go, oh, that's old news. Now they were spied on all new. They do this
all the time. They did it with Benghazi and everything else. What are they going to say, Joe?
All right. We spied on him, but it was clear as day that the Russians
were going to impact our election
and impact our constitutional republic
and swing the election for Trump.
So in the interest of national security,
we had to spy.
That's why, meanwhile, keep in mind,
Obama says it's ridiculous, that theory.
That's why now the entire story is going to shift
to know the Russians had to have swung the election.
Because if they don't admit they swung the election, they have no motive, Joe.
Right.
You understand that once they admit it happened, now they're going to explain it away by motive.
Well, we knew the Russians.
This was such a serious threat to our election.
That's Obama saying how ridiculous it is in October.
If that were to stand now, now all of a sudden the American public's like,
wait, let me get this straight.
Now you're acknowledging you spied on the Trump team
and your motive was what?
Russian swing an election
that Obama acknowledged could never happen?
They have to switch the story.
This is how they work.
Nitpick, change the story,
deny, euphemism fight.
It wasn't a spy.
It's such crap, folks.
It's unbelievable.
The garbage that's going on in this campaign.
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