The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 729 The Real Reason the Media Won’t Use the Word “Spy”

Episode Date: May 28, 2018

Summary: In this episode I address the media’s disturbing propaganda efforts on behalf of police-state Democrats and the real reason they are desperate to avoid the use of the word “spy.”    I also discuss the culture wars liberals are waging against us and how to fight back.    News Picks: I appeared on Fox and Friends this morning and discussed why the media, and the Democrats, are desperate to avoid the use of the word “spy.”   Chuck Ross covers some important questions about Spygate.   An excellent piece about the media’s attempts to avoid the use of the word “spy.”   Another stunning development in the Spygate scandal.    Marco Rubio joins the Resistance.    The liberal language police turn up the temperature.   Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joseph armacost how are you on this uh memorial day i'm a very busy boy yeah you just got out of work i'm glad to be didn't get a day off today joe's always working. God bless him. So are you, dude. I'll tell you. I don't really consider this work. I said to my wife, I consider the NRA TV show work.

I don't mean that in a negative. I don't like doing it. I love doing it. But it's video. I'm still kind of new to video. Although the show's been kicking butt and we've been rocking it, I'm still kind of new to video and although the show's been kicking butt and we've been rocking it I'm still kind of working my way through it

and a lot of it is production stuff and kind of busy work but this we've been at for over three years you and I, we've got this thing down to a science and I enjoy it, I love the audience I love the feedback I love the relationship me and you have and me and you have with the audience

people really enjoy the show. And, you know, today's Memorial Day. We didn't tape this yesterday. Sometimes on holidays we'll do that. We'll tape a show in advance. But this is, no, it is 10 o'clock in the morning Eastern Time on Memorial Day. And I wish everyone a grateful Memorial Day. I understand when people say, you know, happy Memorial Day.

It's not what they mean. Some people take that, but they take it offensively because it's such a solemn holiday. But I don. It's not what they mean. Some people take that, but they take it offensively because it's such a, such a solemn holiday, but I don't think that's what they mean. I think that they're happy that these, you know, we live in a country where amazing American patriots have given their lives, their, their flesh, their bodies, everything, and their families as well have given up nearly everything for our liberty and freedom. But I prefer have a grateful Memorial Day. I mean, really, if you just spend a few moments today thinking about the incredible sacrifices. And, you know, I think back to my uncle, if you'll allow me a moment, you know,

Gregory Ambrose on that wall in Vietnam, who was shot in the back while trying to save his buddies south of Thu Duc, Vietnam, and was given the Bronze Star with a V-cluster for his valor. He's just an amazing, amazing person. I've never met him. I've heard so much about him from my family, but I remember for all of those American patriots out there, patriotic families who have lost people in combat so that we can live in this wonderful country at this wonderful time,

just remember, they've given up absolutely everything, everything. And I think back to my family, and I think a lot of you would feel the same way who have lost people, that when my grandmother, that was obviously her son, it was my uncle, Gregory Ambrose, that with him, Joe, we used to own a bar in Glendale, Glendale, Queens in New York called Gibby's Bar. My grandfather's nickname was Gibby. And he owned this bar. And my uncle was supposed to come home. And obviously there was no social media or email back then. If you were to get a notification of a death in combat, they showed up themselves.

So my grandfather is in the bar and the way my mother tells tells the story that uh these that these two uh army officers come for the notification and my grandmother's in the back room and we had lived upstairs the bar the family had lived upstairs which i wound up living in later, the apartment. And my grandfather told the two guys, hey, you know, with all due respect, you're not going up there. Because he knew right away. And they had all the signs up, Joe. Welcome home. They were ready for him.

He was supposed to be coming back. Welcome home, Greg. Matter of fact, my family still has the drawings that people from the bar made of him in uniform saying, welcome home, Greg. Thanks for me. And these two army officers show up to give the notification that he was killed. And, you know, my grandfather, who was a big guy, said, no, I'm sorry, you can't do that. I'll do it. And that was it. I mean, my grandmother's life was never the same. I'll do it and that was it I mean my grandmother's life was never the same and I think to all those families that have lost men and women in combat that your lives your lives are demarcated by that point for uh for my family it was pre-Greg and post-Greg after Greg died nothing was the same nothing my grandmother was never the same she you died still with those wounds. You could never

bring up Greg around her. Although he died a hero, an American hero, Gregory Ambrose. I can't say that name enough. Gregory Ambrose. Although he died a hero, it was understood that you just didn't bring up the conversation ever around my grandmother ever. She couldn't handle it. She just, it was devastating to her. And that's why it means so much to me and to all those patriotic Americans out there. So a heartfelt thank you to the families of the fallen. You are the best of us. Thank you for your sacrifice. All right. There was a lot going on. I was going to do a rough cuts folks, but there's so much going on. I have some serious information to cover. I may get to some other stuff, but really, this was an incredibly busy news weekend.

Whether Tommy Robinson in the United Kingdom. If you haven't heard this story, get ready to be just totally kneecapped and swept off your feet. And I don't mean that in a good way. I'm not talking about falling in love swept off your feet. And I don't mean that in a good way. I'm not talking about falling in love swept off your feet. I'm talking about like, you're not going to believe this is actually happening in the United Kingdom, what happened over there. If you know the story,

you know where we're going with this one. Also, Publix, you don't know the story. Oh, wait till you hear this one. Yeah, you're not going to, you're going to, I wanted to make sure i put credible links in the show notes today to this but i'm not trying to tease this to death folks i just can't emphasize to you enough how we are living in right now there are de facto components of the police state already in effect i'm not suggesting we're living in a full-blown tyranny i don't want to be hyperbolic

or ridiculous but i am telling you that components of tyrannical regimes exist right now. Spying, speech suppression, freedom of the press, all gone. And I'm going to get into that Tommy Robinson case. Something happened at Publix, a grocery chain down here in Florida too. Okay. Today's show brought to you by buddies at Filter By. We always appreciate our sponsors. Sponsoring the show means a lot to us folks. And based on what I'm talking, I'm going to get into today about the economic war and the culture war going on against the rest of us. It's so important that we support companies that support us. So I deeply appreciate it.

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Now, regardless of your feelings about Tommy Robinson, and when I don't know enough about someone, I'm, that's why I'm refraining from comment because I don't have the full background, but I do know what happened. He was outside of a court in the United Kingdom, Joe, and he was filming these, there was a pedophile ring in a largely Muslim neighborhood in the United Kingdom where they were grooming young girls for sex. It was a really disturbing, troubling case. Now, these men are being prosecuted and were arrested. So, this guy, Tommy Robinson, shows up outside and starts filming these men in a public area. It's not private, Joe. He's arrested for, get a load of this, for breach of the peace. What?

Well, everyone else apparently at the scene was kind of surprised as well. He's arrested for, get a load of this, for breach of the peace. What? Yeah, well, everyone else apparently at the scene was kind of surprised as well. He's arrested for breach of the peace. Now, keep in mind, you know, liberals, again, ordinarily civil rights advocates and things like that are unbelievably quiet about this. Not only that, Joe, it gets worse. The judge in the case orders a press blackout. Now, if you think I'm making this up, Google it and you'll see Cernovich and some others had put up some videos of what it was like to Google this. And apparently some articles have been deleted by press outlets that already had written about this case. Now, ladies and gentlemen, this is some frightening stuff here. Yeah. Yeah. You know, bad enough.

We're in an era where spying on your political opponents is being not only sanctioned, but championed by those on the left. The new the modern liberal now hates Trump so much. They're actually and I'm going to get in a minute to the spy controversy as well. What's going on with that? But they are now actively celebrating the spying on of political opponents they're now celebrating this case as well because this tommy robinson apparently apparently his politics are on the right side of the aisle there is the judge ordered a press blackout of coverage in this case i'm not

making this up i will put a link in the show notes to a fox news article you can read yourself is i mean it's just amazing what's going on right here the media are deleting articles not about this pedophile right right they're deleting articles about this guy covering it i just astonishing stuff the culture wars joe have been ratcheted up a notch significantly yeah second story Yeah. Second story. Publix. I cannot be more disappointed in what happened with Publix. Publix, what is Publix?

For those of you who don't live down here, Publix is, it's like this, you know, it's a grocery chain, Joe. It's the equivalent of like the Safeway or the Giant up by you. It pretty uh pretty large grocery chain down here in florida publix it ends in an x not publix with a cs p-u-b-l-i-x i was a pretty regular shopper at publix and i have to tell you i'm pretty limited in where i can go but uh i told my wife um no more we're gonna be on a bit of a publix hiatus for a little while now what happened yeah there is a group of anti-gun uh protesters out there who objected to this is astonishing again and it's i mean i i can't believe i i i'm having a hard time believing the country we live in right now how easily big companies are pressured into making unbelievably poor decisions.

Publix can decide to do with its money, Joe, whatever it wants to do with Publix money. It is a company. It is a company that operates in a free marketplace. They should not be told by left-leaning anti-gun advocates what to do with its money. So they made a donation to a gubernatorial candidate down here in Florida, Adam Putnam, who I'm not even supporting, by the way. He's a Republican. But apparently, from what I know, he's a pretty decent conservative.

But I'm supporting Ron DeSantis, his opponent. I have been. I don't formally endorse anyone anymore. But I think Ron's a good guy. But what happened with Publix and Putnam is horrifying. Publix made a donation to Adam Putnam's gubernatorial campaign. And this left-leaning anti-gun group comes out and they decide they're going to start doing a die-in to protest Putnam. Because Putnam is basically because he's a Republican.

That's really it. They're saying it's because he was supported by the NRA. Listen, this has become right now, it's clear economic warfare against political opponents. So Publix, which caters to a largely conservative Florida audience, folks. I mean, I had assumed they were going to just do the right thing and say, listen, we appreciate. And I certainly do, too. You're right to protest, even though it was private property.

Publix Publix actually, Joe, on their own property, allowed this group. And I'm not using names for I'm not making celebrities OK out of anybody. I'm just sticking with the facts in this, OK? They allowed this group to protest in their stores. In their stores. This is private property. Now, listen, I am a big defender of big R rights to protest. And if you're a company, you want to do the right thing and say, hey, protest in my store or what they think is the right thing. That's fine. Let them do it. But I am astonished that Publix caved.

Publix caved and said, OK, they've now forfeited their right to do what as they wish with their money and their pro-business. And by the way, they were not donating to Putnam, the gubernatorial candidate, Joe, for however much I support the Second Amendment and I do. They were donating to Putnam because they believe in a pro-business atmosphere. Unsurprising to anyone involved in business that a business would support a pro-business atmosphere, right? This had nothing to do with firearms at all. But the anti-gun group does this die-in in the store.

It gets a little bit of local media attention some there but not a big deal matter of fact there's a picture on the internet of shoppers shopping like right around these kids they do this die-in on the floor and shoppers are just doing their thing it wasn't a you know that that big of a deal but publics i'm in a a a benny hana in sewell's point down here in florida and I pull up my phone and I read that Publix caved and has now agreed that they're not going to do any more political donations in response to this anti-gun group. She feels a little differently about the issue, not the gun portion of it, but she feels like maybe they were victims in this too. Folks, listen, I have nothing against Publix, and I'm certainly not looking to make a big Publix think about this, but you have to stand up. You're just setting a precedent for the future for now other companies who do have done absolutely nothing wrong to be targeted by, you know, economic warfare by people on the left who have an agenda. And that agenda is to cut off any Republican politician from the ability to, you know, receive a support or campaign funds from anyone who is pro business or anything else. There's a clear agenda here. And it's deeply upsetting that Publix came. So I'm taking a bit of a hiatus from Publix. I am

not going in there. I'm sorry. I got an email from a guy this weekend because I tweeted about it. He said, listen, I work there. We're a conservative company. And I wish you wouldn't do this. I understand that. And I don't want to hurt anybody. And I'm certainly not looking to hurt anybody's business. I'm just telling you that I'm deeply, deeply disappointed. This was a huge mistake. This was a catastrophic misjudgment. And Joe, I've said to you repeatedly, you have to remember, and public seems to have forgotten this. in this liberals forget liberals are not conditioned for the long fight they're not liberals have been have grown up in victimology they've grown up in snowflake them they've grown up with safe spaces they've grown up with you know cuddly bears and cupcakes and color forms this really happens like they put this stuff in their safe spaces to prevent them from having to ever address any kind of ideological conflict whatsoever. They are not conditioned for the fight. They are nothing but sheep, okay?

They are not conditioned for this fight. We are. And I'm absolutely sure of it because I was in the gym this weekend, and in there I spoke to a number of people who are absolutely furious at what Publix did. And I'm telling you right now, they will never forget. Publix just buried its corporate image, a company that had a great image, and they did it to cater to a left-wing anti-gun group when they could have just said, hey, protest, protest in our stores.

We're not going to do anything about it. We're not going to enforce this law against it. Do your thing. But we are going to retain our right to support whatever politicians and causes we want thank you very much okay yeah they didn't do it the culture wars have been dialed up a notch folks and it's really really frightening stuff um i'm going to get into that a little bit too uh let me see here hold on a second to check something all right okay uh before we do it let me let me uh we gotta pay for the show today sorry Sorry. Not that I'm out of it at all.

I just... Can I just be honest with you folks? Not like you're going to answer back. I will. Please be honest with us, Dan. Yeah. There you go. Could you...

Joe, you've known me a long time now, over five years almost. Yeah. But can you sense the hesitancy in my voice talking about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually... I'm sitting here listening to you and i'm going it's what yeah there's something wrong i know there's something it's not i'm not i feel great i slept great last night i got a burley for fox and friends i feel good bright eyed yeah yeah you know what i'm tired you can see me on the on the video connection um i just i'm bothered by it because i i get it this left there's a reason i'm not using names and there's a reason i'm not getting specific about who this this group

is i'm not trying to be cryptic and i can tell you right now it's not out of any sense of fear for me at all i've told you that if these left-wing groups target us, that's their choice to do that. I will move to, we're fine. I will move to a subscription-based or a Patreon or some other base. That's okay. That's their choice to do that, right? You can target us as you want. My fear is that other companies and other places aren't talking about this because we live in a fear society and social media is being used to spread that fear. And the social media environment has been used to frighten people, to let them know you're next if you even speak out. And all it takes is one or two companies to stand up and to say, not today. We are not going to be bullied into submission here.

We are going to stand up for our right to do what we want to do with our money on our time based on our business interests. And this would all stop. And it doesn't because people are afraid. And I'm hesitant to talk about it because I don't want to put other people on the spot. And I know Publix, and I feel bad for them. This was a great Florida company. But folks, it has to stop. Somebody has to draw a line in the sand and say, you know what? We have done nothing wrong. We're supporting business interests that are going to support our business, our pricing

model, the maintenance of our jobs, our financial infrastructure within the state of Florida. And we are not going to be bullied by protesters who do not have our interests in mind or the people who are involved in our company. And they won't. They won't stand up. It's a shame, folks. It really is. It's sad that good people have to suffer. But I'm going to make my own point on this, and I'm taking a bit of a break from Publix for a while. So I'm sorry, Publix. Your sandwiches are great, but you really, really let me and a lot of people down.

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yeah, great piece in the Wall Street Journal this weekend, Joe, about the culture wars. This is why I brought up and I started the show with Tommy Robinson, by the way, in Publix. I don't do things randomly.

The culture wars are picking up. I had said to you last week that you have to understand what's going on right now. We have three separate conflicts going on within this ideological arena. We have the political conflict conflict which is basically voting getting people who subscribe to your liberty-based ideology elected into office for democrats it's getting people uh aligned with your big state uh you know non-individual big state ideology locked into office you have the culture wars you have wars going on in hollywood you have these ideological wars going on in music where liberals are fighting to marginalize anyone who doesn't agree with their big government status

agenda. You also have economic wars, like we saw this weekend with Publix, where you have these left-wing groups waging economic boycott wars against companies that have done absolutely nothing wrong. Nothing. They're doing it because they are not, in fact, statist and big government liberals. So there was a great piece in the Wall Street Journal this weekend, which it was a subscription only piece, but I'm going to summarize some of the main points for you because it was a fascinating take on the origins, Joe, of the culture war. The culture war, the term, by the way, was created by a guy named James Hunter. And it was really taken into the mainstream by Pat Buchanan when he ran

for president. But Hunter, they did an interview with him in the Wall Street Journal, and he had some amazing takes on this. One of the things I wanted to just address before we get to it is how the culture war, the piece doesn't hit this, i want to i want to hit this because it's critical the culture wars are not new i mean this has been going on for a long time you know the 80s and 90s they really hit the peak but the culture war i think is really gone it's it's become more pronounced and it's become more grave and more almost manichean like oh you know evil versus good life or death to everybody. But I think because of the president's presence of social media, 24 hour cable news and electronic email where you can get information immediately. Think about it, Joe.

A local fight. Let's say the Kentucky fight right over the Kentucky court clerk who wouldn't sign gay marriage certificates. That fight, you know, in the Walter Cronkite, maybe 1960s, 70s era, if that didn't make the nightly news, folks, I'll be honest with you, it didn't happen nationally. Now, what happened in Kentucky, it would be a big issue in Kentucky. It'd be huge. It'd be all over the front page news. It may be regional news as the story spreads, but the chances of you finding out about it, unless someone called you on the phone or sent you a letter, were slim.

Those fights were regional and sometimes local. The reason these fights to us now appear and have become so much more grave is because every local fight becomes national. Think about the fight over sanctuary cities, Joe. I live in Martin County, Florida. This is not a sanctuary county. I live in Palm City. It is not a sanctuary city.

It's not. But the fight to you, whereas in the 60s if it wasn't a sanctuary city fight about palm city florida you didn't know about it if it didn't make the nightly news what was happening in sacramento or san diego was irrelevant why would you know about it you know about it now because everybody's on twitter everybody's on facebook everybody gets emails those Those emails, they subscribe to politicians' email lists. Like, look what's happening in California, they're coming for you next.

All of these fights have become national. And it's created a national groundswell of people aligned with the same collective interests. Fighting for, you know, process-oriented legal immigration, fighting for open borders. This may have very little to do with you

and your local area, but you've adopted the fight because social media and cable news have, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it has plus and minuses for each side. The minuses, obviously, Joe, are that liberals are using this medium to spread fear. Liberals are using the social media and email to spread fear.

So they're using protests, protests of companies that have done nothing wrong to do what, Joe? Not just to protest that company, but to send a message to other companies that if you don't align with our agenda and if you dare donate to a republican this you're next so these fights do become national publix is largely a florida grocery chain you don't think other grocery chains now aren't seeing what's going on again if this happened in the 60s and cronkite didn't cover it it didn't happen it happened in florida everybody else ignored it now you have a largely conservative state florida it's not as swingy as people make it out to be believe me outside of uh you know broward and miami-dade the state is pretty darn conservative okay

you have these fights that even in conservative states, you have conservative companies caving to liberal demands. And they're using this social media and email and 24-hour cable news as a warning device, as almost a liberal emergency alert system to alert others that we're coming for you next. That's the downside to this. The upshot to this is conservatives are becoming more and more aware to a culture war that was allowed to succeed precisely because of the lack of social media and email notification. Think about what I'm telling you. It's very important you understand this.

The piece in the Wall Street Journal covers how, I don't know what you want to call it's very important you understand this the piece in the wall street journal covers how not what you want to call high society joe what we now associate with liberal elites right hollywood academics the hoity-toity crowd right the cultural liberal limousine elitist joe 50 60 years ago maybe a little longer that high society was you gotta see joe's face this would be great on a ditto cam right the high society was dominated by uh by protestants who were largely socially conservative you were considered an outcast if you were not a social conservative the way that changed over time was liberals slowly, slowly taking over cultural institutions, inserting themselves into academia and on a mass scale, spreading and indoctrinating people into far left ideology.

And slowly but surely, conservatives were left flat footed because they didn't see what was going on. Because there was no social media and email list. Nobody knew. A lot of these fights were just local. One college at a time. Where people on college campuses who may have subscribed to conservative values in the past weren't prepared for the fight that was coming.

Now, with social media, email lists, and 24-hour cable news, we can see what's going on in the incubators of progressive policy before they get to your state. And we're becoming more and more prepared. You say, that's why I'm not as depressed as a lot of other conservatives. And I say that because in the piece, in the piece of the Wall Street Journal I'm talking about, where they interview James Hunter, James Davison Hunter, who invented this term, the culture wars. One, there's a liberal who's anonymous in the piece, Joe, says something deeply, deeply disturbing. That should scare all of you listening to this.

The liberals see the culture wars is over. The guy quotes, yeah, the guy, or maybe a woman, I'm not sure, but the guy in the piece, yep, Joe, the quote is this this it's strictly a mop-up operation now in other words we've won if you were a conservative you will not be welcome in polite society anymore not in academia not in hollywood not music nowhere why did trump win yeah exactly i was you beat me to the you stole my thumbs i'm sorry i'm just messing with you no no that was great that's why we did not plan this before the show. I didn't even tell Joe I was going to talk about it.

No, that's a great point, and you affirm what I'm saying here. Remember what I told you? What is it? The Roman poet, an enemy is not vanquished until he considers himself so? I like that, yeah. Liberals assumed we considered ourselves vanquished. We didn't. The Trump revolution was a breakout moment and a big no thank you to liberal elitism and a culture war that the left considered over and won. And to quote this guy, a strictly a mop up operation here. it is not over matter of fact conservatives do social media fox news podcasts like this like ben shapiro like other places out there um you know we uh you have the hannity show lavin show

limbaugh all these shows now and and through the spreading of the message on social media and email lists and others conservatives are finally starting to understand that this is a national fight. These are not regional, local fights. Now, going back to what I said before, the incubators in the past used to be California, New York, Maryland, Illinois, Massachusetts, and some other left-leaning states. Incubators, what they would do, Joe,

you and I lived in Maryland. You know how it works. In a far-left state, they will test out a policy to see how it goes men in the women's room um you know illegal immigrants getting free college education or subsidized college education free maybe subsidized state rate college education they will try it out when it passes there what happens it moves into like moderate purple states then all of a sudden you have conservative

states folding be like well everyone else is doing it so we need to do it too and we're gonna look like xenophobes or istaphobic phobophobic phobophobes racist misogynist look everyone else is doing it what's wrong with you guys that's the essence of the culture war the marginalization of people who don't agree with you in other words painting them is not normal how do you paint people as not normal joe by showing people what joe air quotes normal is and normal is hey joe 35 states have passed subsidized tuition for illegal immigrants if you don't do it you're a bunch of racist hat tip tom maher i haven't said that in a while. God rest his soul. A veteran, by the way, as well, Tom Moore.

He was a host at Joe's station. But he used to say that all the time. That's how they do it. Follow the model. Go to a blue state. Pass some radical policy. I think we should let men in the women's room. I think we should allow people here illegally to get subsidized state tuition from anywhere. So everyone anywhere in the world should enter the country illegally and taxpayers should fund their education.

That seems crazy. But it'll pass in a blue state. And then all of a sudden the pressure campaign because the left always acts collectively they'll say hey passed in maryland i think it should pass in let's say call it a purple state virginia which is really blue now sadly i wish it weren't but then virginia will say well look what they're doing in maryland we need to do this too or where you don't want to be racist xenophobes then all of a sudden you get your critical mass of states 26 27 states pass this and next thing you know even in states like florida like what we got to do it too

now what's happening is the advent of social media again emailing this in 24-hour cable news conservatives are starting to fight these fights in the blue ecosystem we may not be winning all of them but we're fighting back. You may say, oh, Dan, that's not right. Is it? Are you sure? Folks, what's happening in California right now where there's a rebellion in these municipalities against sanctuary city status or state, oh, excuse me, state status, where municipalities

in California are saying, no, no, we're not doing that sanctuary state stuff. No, thanks. What are you going to do? It's already happening. So on a solemn holiday, Memorial Day, I don't want to leave you, though, with a bad, macabre feeling. I'm telling you that, yes, there is a downside to the use of social media to spread fear.

There's a huge downside the downside is companies become scared because they see things going on regionally speaking and they're afraid it's going to happen to them the upshot is conservatives are waking up and learning how to act collectively themselves as i wrote here here, the left, I took some notes on this, the left is using it to spread fear. We are responding by spreading awareness, awareness that was not there in the past. Outside of the hardcore activist community, 30, 40 years ago, you got very little news about what was going on outside your state if it didn't directly impact you. Now we're starting to see it it just because it's happening in a blue state you know green plow power plant rules far left

radical minimum wage stuff let's 40 an hour minimum wage all right being hyperbolic but you get now all of a sudden we're saying no no no we better fight that there because the left will come for us next now in the piece the piece, this guy Hunter, who is associated with the culture war, said something, there's a great quote here. Our identity is formed not only by our affirmations, but by our negations. That was a great line.

And I've been a big proponent of this in the past. The left, in other words, it's not just what we believe in, Joe, that defines us, it's what we fight against. Now, viewing this from the eyes of the left, Hunter says in the piece, the complete

discrediting of communism due to the fall of the Soviet Union, the left, that was their fight. The left, they were their fight. The far left they were the communists. They are the socialists. The New York Times, they were the

strong advocates for Soviet collectivism. They were propagandists. Well, they still are today, but they were back then. When the Soviet Union collapsed, because that's what socialism always does, and communism collapses and starves its people to death, the economy cannot be run by statists, statists who have no expertise in any of that arena. They will eventually use force, start to kill off their population, the population starves, the economy starves, and eventually the system collapses.

When it did, the left needed both a new advocate and a new enemy. Because you're not only defined by what you believe in it's what you're fighting against you know luke skywalker's defined as much by darth vader as he is by luke skywalker right who the enemy is the left had the enemy you know the enemy was free market economics the complete discrediting of socialism and communism left only a fringe movement able to openly support socialism now it's starting to make a comeback with bernie sanders but you were considered in 1984 and on a complete kook if you still believe communism worked right they needed a new fight so he says

again identity is formed not only by our affirmations but by our negations so i put underneath that the left they needed a new enemy and they found it in the culture wars. Now they found it in the environmental fight as well. That's why they call them watermelons. These, you know, red on the inside, green on the outside, the new green activists, right? That was some of the term people would use to people who were communists, who then became environmentalists. But the left needed a new enemy. And he brings up a couple of fascinating examples of how the culture wars, because it's not as easy a fight, Joe.

When, you know, socialism versus capitalism is a pretty easy fight to define. When you're a leftist, you believe, you know, you're fighting the man in greed, right? Everybody wants to fight the man in greed. Well, Milton Friedman elegantly said, but what are you saying? Like bureaucrats in the Soviet system weren't greedy? I don't get it. Well, when that fight went away, the culture wars are a little harder to define for them. It was a harder fight to define in simple black and white terms. How it took off though is interesting. Here's Hunter hunter's theory here that it was seeded by mass prosperity in higher education this is a great point that a matter of fact joseph schumpeter uh in uh in uh in in his books brings this point up himself that the culture war fights show in the recruiting of new leftist soldiers in the culture wars was

seeded by mass prosperity and higher education. What does he mean by that? Higher education post-World War II and post-Vietnam where people started to, in mass, filter into the higher education system. We're talking about the university and college system here. Those degrees were not necessary. They were nice to have, but they were not necessary for a good, healthy middle-class job in the 60s and even portions of the 70s. Really, it's the 70s on, Joe, where the college degree becomes the new high school diploma and they become essentially

credentialing institutions for your ticket into high society or even upper middle-class society. Maybe high society is a little dramatic. If you want a ticket into the middle class society. Yeah, maybe high society is a little dramatic. If you want to ticket into the middle class or upper middle class, you had to go to a credentialing institution in college. That was not the case pre-1970s. You could get a good, solid paying job and a nice home in a middle class neighborhood working out of high school with a decent manual labor career. The evolution of our economy empowered the credentialing institutions, the colleges. That credential was necessary for your ticket into the upper middle class, which flushed people into the system, the college system, that maybe didn't want to go there but felt that they had to to support themselves and their families.

Maybe they wanted to do something different. Well, what also happened to the higher education institutions post 1960s? Again, they liberal slowly but surely because of a lack of awareness by rank and file conservatives, because we had no way to spread the information and collectively act against it by withholding donations from colleges because they were doing this. We were largely,

and I'm not talking about conservative activists and even really wired in voters. They saw this coming for a while, but a lot of people didn't. Leftists inserted themselves into the colleges. They took the colleges over. So we had this kind of double gut punch at the same time. We had massive numbers of young people moving into the credentialing institutions

to get that credential to become middle class because they needed it now, whereas they didn't need it in the past. And you had leftists inserting themselves and essentially indoctrinating this influx of new people, creating a bunch of foot soldiers, indoctrinated foot soldiers, into the leftist movement, which are going to fight the culture wars for them. Aw, crap. That's right.

Four years, four years to indoctrinate and train people into this new fight. The old fight, socialism versus free markets. The new fight was going to be Judeo-Christian work ethic, conservative values versus, hey man, free sex, free love. The new fight was going to be Judeo-Christian work ethic, conservative values versus, hey man,

free sex, free love. Everything's relative. The state's your new God, small G. Make sense? Yeah. That's a harder fight to explain,

Joe. Yeah. Because you have to un-indoctrinate people first. Yeah. I'm sorry if this show is a little complicated, but you can be a socialist I don't want to say it's the wrong way I gotta be crystal clear on this

I have to be very precise in my words there are people who are Christians who are just misguided who are socialists but and I mean this this is going to sound bad but please hear me out. They're socialists for the right reasons.

They just don't know it. They don't understand it. In other words, they really do believe that greed hurts people, that we should take care of the poor. I get that, totally. I know what you mean. There's a large swath of people on the left, not the radical, a radical left or a lost cause. I'm talking about Democrats, who I get it. They just don't have

enough of an understanding of economics joe third party payer systems um you know government mismanagement and the faults of planning to understand that what they're recommending is actually a poison not a cure they say i'm a good person i believe the poor should be taken care of therefore we should empower the government to take care of the poor i get it i understand i can walk a mile in your shoes and understand why some people who don't understand basic economics would believe that. Okay. So what I'm trying to tell you is that socialist versus capitalist fight was an easy one to make without having to unindoctrinate people first, because they would use the guise of moral values to advance that cause. They would say, Joe, how can you be a Christian? You need

to support big government and support the poor. Not understanding that the government was making people poor, but it's an easy argument to make. Get it? Yeah. It doesn't require heavy indoctrination. When that war died in 1984, when the Soviet Union collapsed and no serious person advocated, serious person advocated communism anymore. Notice I said serious, but I'm talking talking about that's why Bernie Sanders is left out of the conversation, right? No one would advocate communism anymore because it was so entirely discredited. This fight, the Judeo-Christian conservative work ethic versus free sex, free love, everything is relative. The government should define what values are. Even now, explaining to you, you're probably like, huh?

Exactly. It's a more complicated argument and a more nuanced argument to make. You have to constantly create new classes of victims because it's hard to make people feel like a victim. Bingo. You're a middle class kid.

You're in college. You've got a decent life. Your parents were Catholic, Christian, Jewish. They took you to church, whatever it may be. You know, everything's good. All of a sudden you go to college and you're like, they're like, you're the oppressed victim. You're so oppressed. And you're like, I am? This doesn't happen automatically.

It takes a good, solid couple of years, if not four years, to get people to believe this. The colleges provided fertile ground for this. This influx of new students this this influx of new students with an influx of new liberals provided fertile ground for training camps for new victims for a new fight those fights were going to be the culture wars the culture's attacking you they are what are you talking about i lived a great life no no no no no you're a victim someone's coming after you yeah right yeah that's what happened now combine that with uh in james hunter's uh so he says higher ed which i just described massive people or numbers of people floating into the higher education system

accompanied by liberals floating into the higher education system a company that would mass prosperity and now you see how the culture wars took hold Accompany that with mass prosperity. And now you see how the culture wars took hold. Why mass prosperity? That doesn't make sense, Dan. Mass prosperity? No, Schumpeter points this out in some of his more brilliant pieces.

Joe, when you become as rich as the United States, the opportunity cost for you to worry about things not critical to your existence is very low. Here's what I mean. What's an opportunity cost? It's a cost of a foregone opportunity. Opportunity cost in economics is a complicated but simple idea.

I say it's simple because explaining it's simple, but explaining it in terms of the culture war may be a little difficult, but I'm going to give it my best. Here's what an opportunity cost is. Joe is an experienced sound engineer who is the man with podcasting. I recommend him to everyone, right? Yeah, I do. You know, that was a guy last week starting his own show. I'm like, call Armacost.

He's like, Joe's got so much work on his plate. I don't even know if he can handle it anymore. But if you look at Joe in terms of an opportunity, because if Joe were to leave what he's doing now, where he's compensated all right, does pretty well for himself, and he were to tomorrow say, I want to be a musician, which he is. Joe is a very talented musician. But let's be honest, Joe, that may take you five or six years to gain foothold if you ever do. I'd be a poor musician, you'd be poor yeah now let's say you make ten thousand dollars a year as a musician playing bowling alleys like i was just watching crazy heart last week right you play

now the liberal views joe as being better off by ten thousand dollars you made ten thousand dollars a year right yeah yeah the conservative that understands opportunity costs, I'm not giving you Joe's salary. That's for even. Let's just say Joe makes $100,000 a year doing what he does. The conservative understands that Joe is not better off by $10,000. He's worse off by 90. Right.

Because the foregone opportunity of Joe doing what he's great at, being an executive producer of a show, mixing, sound cuts, all the stuff he does, Joe lost $100,000 by taking on a job he only gets paid 10. Liberals have a simplistic view of economics. Conservatives don't. Conservatives have a complicated, nuanced view of the world that does not define easily by a simple, you know, by simple, up ten thousand he lost ninety thousand he for he he let an opportunity go that was worth a hundred thousand dollars this is the problem with mass prosperity the united states is the most prosperous country in the history of humankind thanks to free markets and a stable government relatively stable when the the the cost for people in a country so rich

of doing other things that they wouldn't ordinarily do is very low in other words if you're living right now in rwanda which is not a a a wealthy country the cost for you to engage in social activism, to give illegal immigrants to Rwanda subsidized higher education is incredibly high. Why? Because

you'll die. Because you'll starve because you spend your whole day in social activism and not doing what, Joe? Working and feeding yourself in the wealthiest country on earth mass prosperity everywhere allows us the time to pay attention to things we ordinarily wouldn't pay attention to causes that ordinarily would not wet our whistles.

But now it does. So you have these liberals being taught to be victims, flushing themselves into the higher education system, moving en masse into the higher education system, professors moving en masse, liberal professors into the higher education system, teaching people to be victims. And then you now have middle class to upper middle class students who the consequences of paying attention to causes that really are are not very relevant to their lives are low so they start picking new fights over and over and over again. This would,

that's, so that mass prosperity, you pay attention to things, I guess is the best way to say, you wouldn't pay attention to, if you were, and I'm not suggesting it's a good thing, struggling to get by,

I'm just saying capitalism, as Schumpeter pointed out, sows the seeds at times of its own destruction. Yeah. Because you have the time and the wealth, your bellies are full, that you can pay attention to some of these things. So the culture wars became a nice fertile ground for people, Joe, looking for a new fight

because they didn't have anything else to worry about. I like the way you did that. And I bet the audience does too at this point. Yeah. I hope so. Yeah, that was pretty simple, Dan. Yeah. Now, I'm going to put,

because this is an example of this in the New York Post, which, please read the show notes today. They're really good. I have some great articles about Spygate, too, and I'm going to get to that in a second, in a minute, too. Second or a minute. Either one, in a minute. University of Wisconsin put out some kind of a speech guide. The story's in the post that I put it. But going to show you how in a world where people are struggling to get by and not a prosperous world where, again, the consequences for paying attention to minor, some are major.

I'm not saying all these fights are not worth your time. Let me be clear on that. But these fights clearly aren't. There's a speech guide out, Joe. And we are now told not to use the terms. Get a load of this. There's a speech guide out, Joe, and we are now told not to use the terms. Get a load of this. There's a ton of them in there. I want you to read it

because it's really almost comical. Joe, you can't use the word blind spot because that may offend someone who's actually blind. Wait, why? I'm not making this up. You cannot use the term third world because that could be offensive too. You cannot use the term third world because that could be offensive, too. You cannot use the term man up, man up.

So don't man up. That is offensive, too. Now, there's a bunch of other ones in there. The terms you're going to be astonished at some of the terms we are now told are offensive. Again, in a prosperous society where liberals are constantly looking for new ways to feel victimized because the real fight, the economic fight between communism and capitalism is over, you lost. As a matter of fact, you're celebrated for finding yourself to be a victim. But you need to seek out new ways to be a victim. And you can do that because you have the time to do it, because you're not struggling to feed yourself or get a job.

Mass prosperity is a good thing. The downside for liberals is they have the time to go out and invent and fabricate new fights every day, like not using the word blind spot. Read the piece in the post, you're going to laugh your butt off. It's important. All right. I want to get to some more word games in a second that liberals are playing with us. But today's show also brought to you by our buddies at iTarget. This product has just been flying off the shelves. Thanks to you, my audience. This is one of our better sponsors out there because if you're going to own a firearm, you have to own it responsibly. Everybody knows that. Store it responsibly. You have to learn how to use it, be proficient with it. One of the best ways to learn how to operate your firearm proficiently, whether you're a sportsman, a hunter, police officer,

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of course, we're talking about the Obama administration's now obvious spying on the Trump team and the use of a FBI spy asset to probe the Trump team for information. And all weekend, I knew I had this. I do the appearance every Monday morning on Fox and Friends at 6.30 a.m. Eastern time. I kept thinking, how am I not getting through here? Because the media is just humiliating and embarrassing themselves, pretending to be national security and intelligence people. They have no idea what they're talking about. They're like, we can't call them a spy. We got to call them confidential human asset, confidential informant. This is nonsense. Here's the reason.

Here's the real reason. And Joe, if this doesn't make sense, stop me. This is important. A spy is someone outside of an organization inserted in or told to interact with components of a suspect organization to probe and take information from it. And informant in my over a decade, matter of fact, 17 years in law enforcement at the state and local level a federal and local level i should say the nypd and the secret service excuse me an informant is someone inside of an organization that informs on the activity of the said organization likely because there is some corrupt or illegal activity going on understand those two because i'm going to explain something in a difference and why the pravda media the hacks in the media and the democrats are panicking now over the use of the word spy i said this on fox and friends this morning spy yeah spy external it is an external person right trying to insert themselves in to gather information or spy and inform someone already on the inside.

A Sammy the Bull Gravano type. Yeah. Why now, after having defined that as one being external and one being internal, think this through, folks. internal think this through folks why would the media the pravda media and the democrats be so panicked about the use of the word spy like we're on jeopardy alex the answer is what is obama's involvement yes you would be right ding ding ding ding ding ding ding double jeopardy winner there you go babe as joe would say an informant would connote here that there was some kind of pre-existing illegal activity someone came

forward from inside the trump team oh my if it's an informant everybody says okay well that's not bad somebody saw something sniff something out in the trump team saw this russian involvement and look we were targeting the russians and this person came forward and told us about it and we all want to stop this kind of criminal or spy or russian spying activity, right? So what's the problem? But that's not what happened, folks. This guy, Halper, was external to the Trump team. How do we know that? Because he tried to insert himself.

If you're inside an organization, you don't email people trying to get inside an organization. How does this not make sense? If I'm part of the Gambino crime family, the Bananos, or whatever crime family, I don't have to email them. I'm already in. Right.

There's a difference. I'm inside. You arrest someone on the inside of an organization, you flip them, and they become an informant. I only did this for 15 plus years we did it with counterfeiting rings we did it with credit card fraud rings child pornography rings you arrest someone and you get them to flip on other people that's an informant he's already the criminal there you go The spy is the external James Bond guy who's working for a government who has to try to insert himself inside. Why are they not using the word spy? Because if he was external, somebody had to insert him inside. Who was that somebody? Someone in the Obama administration.

Somebody, someone in the Obama administration. That's why they don't want to use the word spy. Do you understand why they're freaking out? External, internal. Internal informant means there's already pre-existing criminal activity. Someone's ratting them out. And we're all like, well, okay. You know what?

We don't like rats, but rats taking down bigger rats. All right, we get it. A spy is someone external probing someone for information about an organization that may be doing nothing wrong at all. The very use of the word spy will, in people's heads, will insist that people on the outside were trying to insert people on the inside and that person on the outside was someone in the Obama administration. And the big question now is that the media is desperately trying to avoid by trying to use the word informant or confidential human source, all this other stuff. The big question they're trying to avoid is what did Obama know and when did he know it? Because if this guy was a spy, external forces pushing him into the trump orbit the question is visualize here folks who is pushing this guy on his back into the trump team going go

go go go go inside there get information who's doing it if he's an informant being pulled out of this corrupt sphere to get information that doesn't that the imagery is not as bad right oh he's just talking about bad stuff already going on there's nothing wrong with us pulling the information out but pushing someone in with no credible allegations of criminality at all pushing someone in says what that this may have been what i've been telling you from episode 628 on. An operation to frame and entrap the Trump team from the start. Someone pushing on Halper's back. Hey, hey, go in there.

Go get stuff. Hey guys, there's nothing here. Go get it anyway. But there's nothing here. Make something up. That's why they're not using the word spy. And let me just tell you, one more thing. I have another article in the show notes.

Rubio is not one of us, okay? Marco Rubio has completely sold out. I live in this guy's, I'm embarrassed I voted for this guy. Rubio came out over the weekend. There is no evidence there was a spy in the Trump campaign. Are you insane? Is Rubio okay in the head?

This guy has become the Democrats' favorite Republican. My guess is he's preparing for a presidential run. And let me tell you something, Marco Rubio, there's no evidence of a spy. Are you blind? Can you be this stupid? Is it even possible? I've lost elections, folks. My wife hates when I bring this up.

I'm very proud of having fought that fight. We almost won one. We got smoked in a couple more, but we had the guts to give up everything and go for it, and I'm always going to be proud of that. And I'll tell you what I'm also proud of. I never sold out. I ran, as Joe can attest to, in a deeply, deeply blue state.

Yeah. In a deep blue district in Western Maryland and Montgomery County at one point. And I ran on a pro-life, pro-Second Amendment agenda, and I never sold out. I would rather have held to my principles and lost and stand proudly on what I believe in than have won like Rubio and have to consistently sell out now to people on the left. I am disgusted by this guy. He is now going to become the left's favorite new Republican

because he cannot acknowledge what is a simple fact. Someone was pushed external to the Trump orbit into it in an effort to entrap and frame Donald Trump. That's why Rubio himself won't use the word spy because he just can't stand Donald Trump. It's embarrassing. Read the article in the show notes from ABC News about Rubio. You'll be disgusted.

He is not one of us. Rubio's the new McCain. He is. He is. Well said. He is the media's new. It was John McCain? Yeah.

He is the media's now new favorite Republican. He's not a Republican anymore. He's a police state sellout. Disgusted by it. All right, folks. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it. Again, a grateful, solemn, but grateful and respectful Memorial Day.

And thank you again to all the families out there. And I know we can't speak directly to those lost souls, but God bless you. And I just want to, one quick thing, I saw a quote by Reagan this weekend and I tweeted it out. And Reagan said, don't ever forget when these men and women were lost in combat, they were lost to some of them as boys and young ladies. They will never, ever get the chance to be revered old men. They will never get the chance to see their kids grow up.

They will never get the chance to be respected, honored, older senior members of society because they were taken as young men and women. They're never going to see some of the glories of life, those sunsets, those purple sunsets we see over Florida. Those are all gone. Not another breath of oxygen. Those men and women did that for you. And on Memorial Day, just take a few minutes and think about that. It's important. Thanks a lot for tuning in. I'll see you on the road. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show. Get more of Dan online anytime at conservativereview.com. You can also get Dan's podcasts on iTunes or SoundCloud and follow Dan on Twitter 24-7 at DBongino.