The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 732 The Real Reason Behind the Deep State Panic
Episode Date: May 31, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the panic brewing in the D.C. Swamp over the collapsing Russia probe and the increasing public frustration over the Mueller witch hunt. I also address the moral bas...is for capitalism and how we should explain it to the next generation. News Picks: A terrific piece which entirely debunks Trey Gowdy’s outrageous statements about Spygate. Did Trey Gowdy even see the documents he based his misguided comments on? Mark Levin torched Trey Gowdy last night. Listen here. A great piece about the moral basis for capitalism. The N.Y. Times complains about fake news as it reports fake news. An older piece about the translator in the room for the Trump Tower meeting. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joseph armacost you have
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Hey, thanks a lot
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and yesterday's show and the day before.
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All right, let me get right into it.
The Gowdy debacle has blown up.
Listen, I'm not taking credit for this because there's no credit to be taken.
It's an awful, horrible incident that happened.
Gowdy's appearance that we addressed yesterday on the show on Fox News was a total
debacle it was disgraceful it was a propaganda opportunity for the police state leftists and
their democrat allies and swamp rat republicans looking to take down Donald Trump just to be
clear if you missed yesterday's episode Republican Trey Gowdy appeared on the Martha McCallum show
two nights ago and suggested that the FBI did everything
kind of by the book and everything the way the Americans would want them to, which was
an abhorrent, disgusting, disturbing, completely out of line, ridiculous comment, not based in fact
at all. So the backlash against Gowdy has been substantial, which we initiated yesterday morning.
But I mean, I'm not going to...
Listen, the backlash was going to happen anyway.
We're just usually first because we record early.
And by the way, if you missed it, if you missed Mark Levin's radio program last night...
I did.
And the utter dismantling of Trey Gowdy's nonsensical appearance on Fox News. I will include in the show notes
today a conservative review clip and embedded in there is Mark's 15 minute or so piece dismantling
just about every claim made by Gowdy in masterful fashion. Please listen to it. It's a conservative review, and I'll put it in the show notes today.
Go check it out.
Hat tip to Levin for just annihilating those ridiculous comments.
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As predicted with Trey Gowdy's assistance, thankfully, uh, leaving the position of Congressman
in South Carolina after that debacle yesterday, as we predicted, Joe, the Democrats were going
to start backing away like that Homer Simpson gif on Twitter.
For those of you seen it, when Homer Simpson backs away into the bushes, the Democrats
were going to start to back away from the trump collusion narrative
on remember we talked about the other day the mutually assured destruction oh yeah how the
democrats are now panicking because the republicans are turning the table on them and using the same
tactics media special counsel tactics um against them oh crap that's right. That's right. You're darn right.
That they were using disingenuously against Trump.
They are now starting to panic.
They fear that this is going to be,
and again, it's not me.
I'm not using war analogies.
I'm saying, if you listened to the show the other day,
you'll understand.
There was an email that went out from a group
that is a very prominent group
that gives advice to people in the financial arena about geopolitics and said that a lot of people in D.C. are starting to panic media, their lapdog bootlicking Pravda liberal media suckers,
surgically attached to the caboose of the Democrat party.
They thought the media, as they've done in the past,
would be able to overwhelm the Trump team
with this nonsense narrative
and get them to either step aside,
I don't know, get the impeachment narrative going,
get a 25th Amendment thing going.
But they thought they would be able to get rid of Trump.
It hasn't happened.
Not only has it not happened, Joe, the poll numbers have turned in the opposite direction.
Nelson Muntz moment.
The poll numbers have turned against the Democrats
because they've spent nearly two years lying to the American people now about something everyone in America knows is true.
The Russian collusion narrative is a joke.
It's a total farce.
So the point of my show the other day, it's important.
I'm not trying to redo the show, but it's important we understand where we are in light of what happened with Gowdy.
Gowdy is a part of the reset, whether he knows it or not.
The reset now is to insist to people that this was never an investigation of the Trump campaign.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, you go, Joe.
Joe almost fell off the chair.
Like literally almost fell off the chair.
The new reset is going go, Joe. Joe almost fell off the chair. Like, literally almost fell off the chair. The new reset is going to be, Joe, this was never about Trump. Bank on it. Take this check to the bank. Cash it, baby. Cash this check. Cash it.
I hear it. I hear you. I hear it. I hear you. Yep.
You know what I'm saying.
Yes, I do. Now I know where it's going. I got it. I hear you. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I do. Now I know where it's going. I got it.
Remember what we said the other day on the show?
Again, go back and listen to the Mutually Assured Destruction Show.
That's the title of it.
The Democrats are now understanding that they could be destroyed by these very same tactics.
Why is that?
Because Donald Trump has cojones made of pure unadulterated titanium and he has used his twitter account
to become a de facto media in and of itself
while the left-leaning media has become a propaganda outlet for the left donald trump
has used his massive twitter following and his ability to drive the narrative by just tweeting
something because the
media has to cover it. Why? Because he's the president of the United States. They don't have
a choice. You can't ignore it. You have to cover the tweets. He's the president.
So by endlessly tweeting out the truth, I was spied on, spy gate, spy gate, spy gate.
The media is in a corner. They're surgically attached to the caboose of the Democrat party
and they're all in a panic because the narrative they intended, Joe, collusion, collusion, Trump's
a traitor, treasonous activity. Get this guy out of here. Impeach him. The 25th amendment,
have him resign. None of it's working.. Impeach him. The 25th Amendment. Have him resign.
None of it's working.
Matter of fact, it's having the opposite effect.
Polls are turning for the generic midterm ballot in favor of the Republicans.
I didn't get that wrong.
And the media, the bootlicking Pravda media is in an absolute panic.
Now they're worried that the very same tactics they used on Trump are being turned on them.
So they're looking for a retreat.
Listen, this is an important show.
Yes.
You have to understand what's going on right now to understand what happened with Gowdy.
Yeah.
Gowdy was a part of the tactical Homer Simpson retreat into the bushes
peace with honor approach
to quote that email we saw the other day.
That's their
war analogy, not mine. So don't freak
out liberal goons.
The analogy in the email was
okay, mutually assured destruction. You're going to destroy
us and Trump, we're going to destroy
you too. Uh oh, now
it's starting to work.
How do we get out of this? We get out of it through peace with honor. We will now go back
and say, well, this was never really about Trump, but do us a favor, please, please, please.
We'll offer a piece, an olive branch, but please don't investigate this spy scandal anymore why joe because it's horrifying
for the democrats yeah boy yeah baby yeah this story is the ig report the government internal
affairs report about doj and fbi misconduct during during the Clinton investigation is not even out yet
and the Democrats and the media are panicking.
So the peace with honor,
air quotes there,
tactical retreat by the Democrats
is going to be this.
Here's our olive branch.
We're going to come out and say
this was never about Trump.
You are going to leave us alone on Spygate.
Do you understand this? Please understand
before I go forward.
This is the deal in D.C. right now.
And
somehow Gowdy, either wittingly or
unwittingly, was baited into this. I can't
get in his head. I don't know his motives. I don't care
about his motives. I just know what he did.
And what he did was so dumb it defies explanation.
Gowdy
is part of the peace with honor
approach.
The peace with honor approach, again,
before I go forward, because if you don't understand
this, the rest of this show will be
make absolutely no sense.
The Democrats
know they are busted.
The
Spygate controversy has been
exposed. They spied on
the Trump team. They've now invented
four or five different stories why
they spied on the Trump team.
Now they are going to horse trade with them.
They're going to say, you leave us alone
on this Spygate debacle
and we will in turn, right, here you go,
you're darn right. We will in turn
no longer make allegations that Trump was at the heart of this collusion thing.
We'll say it was investigation into the Russians.
The Russians only.
It just intersected the Trump campaign.
I don't know, by mistake.
It was an accident that they intersected with the Trump team.
Now, the Democrats,
and the problem with the Democrats
is they can't get away from their own reporting.
They also can't get away
from the historical record of what happened in the case.
The Comey, Clapper, Brennan nexus of idiots,
the three dopes,
have created a record of testimony and media appearances because they can't shut up.
As Sean Hannity appropriately warned them a long time ago, get a lawyer.
Shut up.
Get off the air, you idiots.
One idiot goes on a book tour.
The other idiot's on Meet the Depressed every weekend. And the other idiot's a CNN contributor. Laying down the groundwork for their stupidity in a public forum that can be YouTubed at any time.
Peace with honor approach.
Leave us alone on the spying stuff because we don't want to be exposed for the horrors we did.
We will now no longer make the case that this was a case against the Trump campaign.
We'll say it was a case against the Russians.
Oh, what do I have here?
Oh, what do I have?
Oh, looky here.
Looky here.
Our good friend Andy McCarthy at National Review coming through in a clutch again.
This guy is the David Papiortese of clutch hitters.
Who?
Big Andy.
He's been on Joe's show a few times as well, CBM.
I'll have his piece up at National Review.
You are doing yourself and the community a disservice if you don't read this piece.
I'm sorry.
I love you to death.
Read it.
It'll be at the show notes.
If you don't want to click on my website, don't care.
Go to National Review and read it.
Really.
I don't need the clicks.
I don't need the money.
It's conveniently there for you.
Bongino.com.
Do what you want.
Look it up.
I tweeted it out if you want to go to Twitter.
And Andy McCarthy's piece.
It's like, wow, that's interesting.
That they're now suggesting it was never about Trump.
Remember, Joe, peace with honor here.
Was it about Trump?
No, guys, it was about the Russians.
Don't talk about the spy.
Here is Jim Comey's testimony from March of 2017. Again, hat tip, Andy Papiortese McCarthy.
Jim Comey in March.
I have been authorized by the Department of Justice
to confirm that the FBI,
as part of our counterintelligence mission,
is investigating the Russian government's efforts
to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
And that includes investigating the nature
of any leaks between individuals
associated with the trump
campaign and the russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign
and russia's efforts wait wait how is that how is that joe we were just told by former federal
prosecutor trey gowdy who was so confident in his appearance on Martha McCabe that this can't be true.
Yeah, notice that.
We were just told this was not an investigation into Trump.
By the way, that was the other part of his appearance that was left out by the media.
We were just told by Gowdy the FBI did it right and that this is not an investigation
into Trump.
Let me read that sentence again.
Jim Comey, that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government.
And whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts.
Russia's efforts.
What?
We also have Jim Clapper acknowledging, again, the three idiots, Comey, Clapper, and Brennan,
the three dopes who coordinated this Spygate debacle.
We have Comey now acknowledging, this is on the record, folks.
Yeah.
You can go look this testimony up on youtube
it's not hard gaudy was he intoxicated jim cole he's this is on the record this guy's in congress
does he not remember this rubio another one too i'm embarrassed i voted for this guy i don't know what it's all
good fellas nothing to see here oh thanks marco we appreciate it what are you running for president
2020 oh wait let me wait that was first you you're tuning into this show for the first time you
thought this was a republican show. You got the wrong show.
This is a conservative show.
You want a Republican show, believe me, they're out there.
You want a show about the truth, conservatism, and liberty, come here.
Unlike the bootlicking Pravda media
and the hacks in the inside of D.C.
I don't know who they're getting paid off by.
I'm talking about not the politicians per se, but the people on the periphery that make their money leeching of D.C. I don't know who they're getting paid off by. I'm talking about not the politicians per se,
but the people on the periphery that make their money leeching off D.C.
I don't care.
I work out of my house in Florida and got out of the D.C. cancerous bubble,
and it's the happiest day of my life.
May get Joe out of there soon, too.
Soon, baby.
And you'll find it is liberating.
I don't care about these hacks.
If you're a hack with an R in front of your name, you're a hack.
If you're a hack with a D in front of your name, you're a hack with a D in front of your name.
The D or the R makes no difference to me.
What this guy did was an epic level of stupidity.
He could have read Comey's own testimony.
Of course the Trump team was being investigated.
But Gowdy, either wittingly or unwittingly, is part of the tactical peace with honor retreat.
We're not going to mention the Trump investigation.
You guys are going to leave us alone on
Spygate.
Whether he knows it
or not,
I will use a Ren and Stimpy reference.
The land of
the left socks, where they go,
nobody knows.
Nobody
knows what was in Gowdy's head because I'm
not Gowdy.
But I can tell you with 100% certainty that what Gowdy did was absolutely ridiculous.
He made two statements.
Trump isn't under investigation,
or Trump wasn't the focus of the investigation.
It's utter nonsense.
Clapper also, by the way and brennan let me get to that in a second that assertion has been refuted by open testimony
we've already seen comey acknowledged trump's campaign was under investigation
gaudy that's just an outright fabrication secondly the fbi did everything by the book
what spying on a campaign clappers already acknowledged in media appearances that it was
a spy remember clappers appearance on the view yeah it was a spy joe but i don't really like
that word spy but we should thank the trump team should thank us for spying we should
so this is what we do in a constitutional republic now to settle political differences.
We employ the police state intelligence community, police state symbiosis to get in to infiltrate political campaigns during campaign season.
We should thank them for it.
Do you understand the sickness, the disease these guys have?
They know they're caught. They know they're caught.
They know they're caught.
They are desperate
to make the whole story go away now
and they're doing it. They're going to
say, oh, it wasn't Trump.
Peace, fellas. Peace out. Peace out.
Thank you. Peace out. Have a good
night. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming
to the concert. Hey, you haven't played any music yet.
Thanks for coming out. Peace out, folks. Thank you. Have a nice night. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming to the concert. Hey, you haven't played any music yet. Thanks for coming out. Peace out, folks. Thank
you. Have a nice night.
Okay.
Can you play a song? No, no. We're good. Thank you.
Thank you. I went to see the
Cranberries once in concert.
God rest his soul.
Dolores there, right? Yeah.
I went to go see the Cranberries once. Imagine coming on stage.
Thank you. Thank you for coming out.
Have a great night, folks. What? You're going to play? No, no, no music. No music.
The music here is the investigate. They don't want the Spygate investigation to start.
And they are absolutely desperate, Joseph, to have this thing go away.
Thank you. Have a good night, folks. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see. It was never an
investigation into Trump, ever.
Despite the fact that the FBI director said otherwise.
Now, I'm going to explain to you what's happening right now
in a 30,000-foot view, so it makes sense.
Because the Mifsud yesterday was a little wonky,
but people loved it. The show did well.
But I want to explain to you from a 30,000-foot view
why the Dems are desperate,
a critical mass of desperation right now.
Good, good, good, good, yeah.
To make the entire, it's not just about the spy, Joe.
Right.
Yes, the spy story is horrible to them
and that's why they're running away from the word spy.
They're running away from any inquiries
into what exactly Halpert did.
They're running away from a lot of this stuff. But I want to explain to you the bigger narrative,
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you need in a moment here is why everybody on the democrat party the pravda media and the swamp rat
republicans are now in a panic and backing away from the story that this was about Trump the whole time.
Remember, it was used as a way to impeach Trump for the longest time, Joe.
Yeah.
Look, Trump colluded with the Russians.
Now that they can't impeach him, and now that this collusion with the Russians narrative is dead, they're afraid now it's going to backfire on them.
And how is it going to backfire on them?
Because it's now clear as day that paragraph
one, in other words, for you regular listeners, you know what that means. But for those who are
tuning in for the first time, how this case against Donald Trump, the weaponization of our FBI,
our Central Intelligence Agency and foreign intelligence partners to go after and target
a presidential candidate in a presidential election, how this case was started, it's
becoming clearer by the day, was based on fake information.
What?
Yeah, darn right.
Now, the fake information, this is not new news, but it's becoming now obvious that this is the hassle.
The hassle and the conflict and all the nonsense going on right now is about what? It is about the dossier.
The dossier was a series of memos put together by a British spy named Christopher Steele working at the behest of the Hillary Clinton campaign.
by a British spy named Christopher Steele working at the behest of the Hillary Clinton campaign.
They put together a bunch, Steele, a bunch of memos based on false information put together by Russian sources, which looks right now to be a Russian disinformation campaign to sow chaos in
the United States. These memos form the basis of the investigation into Trump because the entire
collusion narrative about Trump property
ownership in Moscow, Trump surrogates traveling to Moscow to arrange deals. Keep in mind,
this is unverified garbage. A lot of this stuff has been debunked. It's nonsense. The dossier
and the fact that the collusion narrative existed only exists because of the dossier.
Please understand this. This is going to explain why the democrats are in desperate this was never about trump retreat mode because
one it was about trump i just read to you jim comey's own testimony saying it was about trump
it was about trump why are they running away because the fact that it was about trump joe which we know i read to you comey's
own words was based on the fact that a series of memos put together by his political opponent
said it was about trump and those memos are false
folks Folks, do you understand why the origin story keeps changing here?
The origin story of how this started has now changed yet again.
I want to hat tip again the undercover Huber account on Twitter.
It's at undercover Huber.
I don't know who this guy or woman is, but their information is staggeringly good.
And he has a great way of compiling screenshots of the left wing media's own reporting.
He has a thread that they sent to me yesterday on Twitter on the new narrative.
Remember, how did the case really start?
A series of fake memos by Hillary's team about fake information about Trump. Nobody wants
to admit that now because now, Joe, the real story is we spied on the Trump team based on a bunch of
false information provided by their political opponent. Nobody wants to admit this. They can't
admit it. They're panicking that this story is going to come out. Now, does the Gowdy meeting make sense?
Probably not, but let me explain it to you.
The whole Martha McCallum interview on Fox where Gowdy said, oh, it wasn't about Trump.
Don't worry.
And the FBI did everything kind of by the numbers.
No worries here.
Everybody go away.
All right.
The Gowdy appearance on Fox was after a meeting at DOJ between Gowdy and other congressmen, Nunes included, about the EC, the original document containing paragraph one of why this case started.
The FBI, folks, is hiding it.
They will not give Congress the oversight entities looking at what happened here.
They won't give them the information. Paragraph one is still a mystery.
Now you may say, well, Dan, if Gowdy went to DOJ with other members of Congress to look at paragraph
one and they saw it and then he went on Martha McCallum and said, oh, nothing to see here. They
weren't investigating Trump and the FBI did everything Martha McCallum and said, oh, nothing to see here. They weren't investigating Trump,
and the FBI did everything by the book.
Then what's the problem?
The whole thing goes away.
Nothing really happened.
Well, oh, well.
I have another fascinating piece by Molly Hemingway
in The Federalist up at the show notes today
I'd like you to read.
Molly!
Always knocking it out.
Yeah, man.
He didn't see the documents!
Wait, wait, wait, Dan.
Let me get this straight.
You're telling me Gowdy goes to DOJ
to read how the investigation started,
which I'm telling you is going to trouble everyone.
Because it started based on a series of fake memos
from the Hillary team
as a reason to spy on the Trump team. They demand access. Gowdy goes over to DOJ. They don't show
him this. He hasn't seen the documents. He then comes back. I don't know what he was told over
there. I'm not trying to get in his head. I'm not going to make hyperbolic allegations. I don't know what happened. All I'm telling you is between that appearance at DOJ, that meeting, and Martha McCallum's show, Gowdy lost his mind.
He didn't even see the documents.
How does he know this?
Folks, the real question here, as Andy McCarthy points out in his wonderful piece,
is not even were they investigating Trump. It's were they monitoring Trump and was that
monitoring subject to FBI assets and an investigation based on fake information.
And that is the question they're trying to get away from. Why?
based on fake information.
And that is the question they're trying to get away from.
Why?
Folks, it's not just that these memos that comprise this dossier,
it's not simply that these memos were used as a predicate to spy on an opposition political campaign.
Fake memos by an actual former British spy paid by the Clintons.
The problem the Democrats have, and I'm sorry if you've heard this before, but it's critical
you understand this is all about the peace with honor tactical retreat that Democrats
are trying to make.
Do not let them.
Do not let them.
Chase them right off the battlefield.
chased them right off the battlefield.
The false memos were not only used to start an FBI investigation.
Let me just give you an alternate scenario.
Maybe this will make sense.
If I'm a Secret Service agent,
someone walks into my office with fake information on Joe Armacost,
and rather than me doing the right thing and vetting the information first,
I go and start a case, open up a case file against joe mistake probably unethical but it can be remedied without any real probably civil remedies
by joe uh joe suing me by me just saying joe hey listen um you know we investigated it there's
nothing there we're going to close the case. You know, my bad. Administrative error on our part.
Close the case out, right?
That would be bad enough.
Yeah. The FBI would
have started a case based on false memos.
Just like I said, I would start a case against you.
But Joe, if I go into court
and I use the false
information against Joe Armacost to
swear out a warrant to search your house,
oh boy, am I in a world of
trouble yeah that's bull you're darn right ladies and gentlemen the information contained in the
fake steel memos that what we know is the dossier was the very basis we know this now because of the
house and senate investigations they've seen those documents the information in the memos the dossier was sworn to
in a warrant and in a fisa court used to spy on terrorists they can't get away from this
so what are they doing i'll get to the undercover hubert thing in a minute i'm not trying to lose
you i just want to make sense the tweets won't make sense without this good yeah we're good
I just want to make sense.
The tweets won't make sense without this.
Good.
Yeah, we're good.
The dossier was sworn to in court.
They can't run away from it.
They can't close the case.
They can't say it was never about Trump.
Tactical retreat.
Peace with honor.
There's no peace with honor.
You swore to this in court.
You lied.
You raised your right hand and said this is true when it was false.
So now that they know it's false, the dossier was false and it was sworn to in a warrant in court.
FBI agents names are on this. FISA court judges names are on this.
They are desperately trying to run away from the dossier.
That is the paragraph one origin story, period.
We spied on Trump because of fake documents.
Full stop.
That's the origin story.
That's what they're hiding from Gowdy.
That's what Gowdy's desperate to make go away now apparently by his appearance on Martha McCallum
oh it wasn't about Trump because the dossier Joe was about who Trump
that's what that's the retreat no it wasn't about Trump no no it's about the Russians
really it was about the Russians that what paragraph one says? Paragraph one, we read fake memos and spied on Trump.
That's paragraph one.
That's what they're hiding.
That's what they won't show Gowdy.
Which begs the question, what the hell was he talking about on Martha McCallum?
They swore to the warrant, folks.
Making it even worse is a fundamental misunderstanding
of how the warrant process
and probable cause works.
You need to understand this.
When you swear to a warrant in court
to establish a level of evidence
necessary to spy on someone,
criminal or even
in a counterintelligence case in an American
citizen where you
have to establish
probable cause
that it's a foreign
agent and a foreign
working at someone
working on behalf
of a foreign agent
and in violation
of US law
the way probable
cause works
is think about it
as bits of
information
one bit
two bit
three bit
four bit
and let's say
you have to meet
a 10 bit
threshold of
information
to get probable
cause cool we're with you good because this is important right 3-bit, 4-bit, and let's say you have to meet a 10-bit threshold of information to get probable cause.
Cool, we're with you.
Good, because this is important.
Right.
If you have 9 bits, you don't have probable cause.
You may have reasonable suspicion.
These are legal terms.
They're not Dan Bongino terms.
Right, right, right.
Which allows you to do other things.
You can engage in a Terry Frisk on the street.
In other words, if I see Joe on the street
and I'm questioning him about an open beer container,
whatever it may be,
I can engage in a Terry Frisk on Joe for my own safety.
There are other, if I have reasonable suspicion,
whatever, remember those old LoJack alarms?
If that went off and there's been a report of a stolen car
and it is reasonable suspicion that I can stop the car.
There are different degrees of proof.
The media, which doesn't understand this because they're largely idiots, don't understand that probable cause is one of the highest levels of proof you can get in a priest, a precourt proceeding.
Precourt meeting, you walk in there with it.
and pre-court proceeding.
Pre-court meaning you walk in there with it.
They didn't have probable cause without the dossier.
You understand now why they're running from this?
It wasn't about Trump.
The dossier was about Trump.
The dossier was the bit of information across the threshold that allowed him to spy on Trump.
Therefore, if we say it wasn't about Trump,
maybe people will forget about the dossier we swore to in court to spy on Trump.
You getting this?
And by the way, liberal Democrats and their media bootlicking Pravda goons,
because that's what they are,
are not telling you the truth when they tell you,
oh, you know what, Joe the fisa the fisa court the
dossier stuff we do but by the way nobody's questioning that the dossier was a critical
component of this now they're saying joe well you know we we had 14 bits of information and
the dossier were the plus four so even without the dossier jo, we would have still had the 10 bits necessary.
Folks, that is absolutely not how the system works. No, no, no, no.
That is not how the system works.
Why?
You may say, Dan, why not?
Why not just include extra stuff?
You don't include extra stuff, especially in the criminal side, because that extra stuff.
Now, in the FISA side, this would be, but the FBI was not going to put itself out there for unnecessary exposure
and go and vet additional information.
They didn't have to vet to get a warrant.
You don't work to get to 10 bits and say, well, let's double the work and get to 20.
You get to 10 and you use the warrant you got then to get to 20 later.
and you use the warrant you got then to get to 20 later.
The whole FISA warrant process
is an attempt to increase your level
of information past probable cause.
If you had more than probable cause, Joe,
you wouldn't need the FISA warrant.
10-4.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
If you had 14 bits of information,
you wouldn't need the FISA warrant.
The FISA warrant was their 10 bits.
Without it, they had no bits.
They were bitless.
This is the problem.
This is why the Democrats are terrified.
The entire basis of their case is this dossier.
They have nothing else.
The whole thing is a son of a bit.
It's a son of a bit.
It's dying in front of their eyes.
Now, this undercover Huber account tweeted me something.
We got to get him verified because it's hard for me on Twitter to see unverified tweets sometimes.
That's long and complicated.
I won't bore you with the details.
But it is tough for me to see because I have too many followers now.
So it's tough for me to see stuff.
But I found it because sometimes I'll put the show name in there to see how the show is doing.
And he made an unbelievably good point.
A great point, actually.
The new story, Joe, now to distract from the dossier.
Because remember, the dossier is their entire case.
The dossier was about Trump.
The tactical retreat is this was never about Trump.
So if they allow it to stay about the dossier, it'll be obvious the whole time
they spied on Trump for nothing.
So now the new story is this is about the Russians.
Oh, yeah.
And the narrative is shift back
to something we only said, Joe,
what, six months ago?
Yeah.
That the United Kingdom and others,
by the way, story, when we put it out there,
we were labeled
conspiracy theorists and kooks oh now they're going back to it now we're not conspiracy theorists
anymore by the way i cited the left-wing reporting on it when i suggested this foreign intelligence
entities folks passed information on trump a long time ago on the Trump team and Trump associates. We said that and liberals called us
nuts. Now liberals are banking on that whole story. The new story, Joe, is that, well, this
started way back. It's not about the dossier, Joe. It started way back in 2015 when foreign
intelligence entities passed information to the United States intelligence community
that was very suspicious about the Trump team.
It was in 2015?
Yeah, really?
Well, as the undercover Huber account brilliantly pointed out,
that's fascinating, Joe.
That's fascinating that this happened back in 2015.
Because the Trump team members you allege
were part of the collusion narrative,
Carter Page and George Papadopoulos,
Joe, were they hired by the Trump
team in 2015?
No. The short answer, Joe,
is no.
And the longer answer is, nyet.
In Russia. Nyet.
They were not hired in 2015.
You dopes.
How could the spying operation on.
So just to be clear, the new narrative, it's not about Trump because the dossier was about Trump.
And that's their whole case.
The new narratives.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I know we called you conspiracy theorists for saying foreign intelligence was spying on Trump a while ago.
But no, no, now they were again.
Now you're not conspiracy theorists again, even though you cited our own reporting.
You guys were right.
It started in 2015 when suspicious traffic was picked up.
And you can thank this colossal idiot, John Schindler.
I never even heard of this goofball who is nothing but a
police state goon.
He's the one now, he wrote
a piece at the Observer, which is laughable.
That, oh no, now it was the NSA
and now we're back to the
67 different version of how
this paragraph one started on this
case. No.
Now it was traffic
exchanged by foreign intel entities and the nsa and joe
but keep in mind they never tell you what it actually was so now we're supposed to take it
at face value that in 2015 some horrible information about the trump team by the way about people
apparently who weren't even hired yet they weren't hired 2016, Page and Papadopoulos, because that's what we were
told by the same goons
a little while ago that these guys started
it. Oh no, it was Carter Page. Carter Page
definitely. He was the one. He was a Russian
provocateur.
He was. He's out on cable news right now.
He was on Hannity the other night.
No, no, it was
George Papadopoulos. Really? Because they weren't hired
until 2016.
So how is it that your information oh no no we're supposed
to take John Schindler police state
advocate because liberals
are quoting this guy I'm not even going to
link to the piece it's so stupid
seriously read it if you want you will lose
brain cells trying to follow this guy's logic
the logic is no no
now we got some devastating information
but Joe none of us are entitled to know what that is by the way we're just supposed follow this guy's logic. The logic is, no, no, now we got some devastating information. But Joe,
none of us are entitled to know what that is, by the way. We're just supposed to, again,
trust the same entities that told us Papadopoulos did it. No, no, Page did it. No, Papadopoulos
and Downer did it. The Australians did it. The British did it. No, in 2015, it happened.
No one can get their story straight. But now we're supposed to trust them that in 2015 some
horrible information about
the Trump team that wasn't even hired
yet, that that's the genesis
of this whole thing. Pay no attention to
the dossier behind the curtain.
Folks,
I mean, it really
is. It's unbelievable.
It's so incredible what's happening right now.
In the United Kingdom, we got people getting locked up.
We got press bans for people videotaping things in a public space.
We got the Chinese stealing information left and right from companies.
I mean, we are retreating backwards from a constitutional public.
We got imbeciles like this goofball at the Observer
writing, oh no, trust me, I have some experience here.
It was some information given to the NSA
and we're all good now.
We got Trey Gowdy, I don't know what happened to this guy,
going on Martha McCallum going,
hey fellas, nothing to see.
The FBI did everything by the book,
including not notifying Congress for
eight months, despite
procedures dictating that they do it every
three months.
We have the FBI
implanting spies
in an effort to implant them
in the Trump team and get information. And yet
we're supposed to be told by Gowdy, nothing to see
here. Police state
Schindler goofball. Nothing to see here, guys. And we're all supposed to be told by Gowdy, nothing to see here. Police state Schindler goofball, nothing to see here, guys.
And we're all supposed to just take it at face value,
despite never having been told the truth for five minutes during this entire thing.
Give me a break.
This whole collusion fairy tale was based on this dossier crap and this informant.
And it's clear as day now that in an effort to cover their tracks desperately, they got a FISA warrant right before the election on Carter Page to put a legal face on at a minimum and illicit and immoral spying operation on the Trump team.
And the real story is the whole enchilada was based on a spurious, nonsensical dossier
that was sworn to in court that was about Trump.
And they cannot have the American public know that.
Therefore, their efforts to hide paragraph one, which reads this. We received from the Clinton campaign fake dossier, which we use to spy on Trump. Period. Thank you. Have a good day.
they can't tell you as far back as 2015 they were probably working with foreign intelligence to still spy on trump and found nothing how do we know that joe because if this goofball at writing
for the observer is right well why wasn't a pfizer warrant applied for if you had some reasonable basis to believe in probable cause in 2015?
Why didn't you get it till October of 2016, right before the election, if this was such a devastating threat to democracy?
Because it wasn't.
Why didn't you brief the Trump team about the threats?
Joe, are these not fair questions?
Yeah, these are reasonable questions.
If in 2015, according to this genius at The Observer,
propaganda police stater,
there was such devastating information about Trump team members they hadn't even hired yet,
which is in and of itself stupid,
about this unbelievable threat to democracy
that required unprecedented hiding of an investigation
from Congress into Trump,
spying on political oppositions using third world banana republic tactics it was so deadly this operation to our constitutional republic that one nobody briefed the trump team and nobody sought a
warrant to investigate it oh and by the way you didn't even open a case till j July of 2016 and you believe this idiot?
Unreal.
Unreal.
Unreal.
You know, folks, listen,
I'm not claiming to be Captain Nonpartisan.
I'm not.
I'm a conservative and a liberty lover.
But as you've seen in this show when we've challenged trade policies
on this administration
and we've challenged gaudy and
rubio too this is not a republican show i i can't say that enough you you can find that elsewhere
not here but i i cannot i i legitimately tell this this this asha lady for what or this former
fbi agent commentator for cnn this Schindler, former intelligence guy,
that so many people have sold their souls
in this Faustian bargain,
sold their souls to police state tactics
in an effort to surgically attach their lips
to the ass of the police state
is one of the most disgusting episodes
I have ever seen in my life.
Ever.
They say, oh, you're just a Trump guy.
Really? I endorse Cruz, you idiots.
Would you forget that?
I'm not talking to my listeners.
I'm talking to the dopes who criticize this show.
Oh, we've never criticized Trump policy?
You even listen to the show?
You know how many nasty
emails we get oh you're just a standard down the line report i don't even support the death penalty
i got a thousand emails about that you want a partisan hack go somewhere else i'm telling you
what frightens the hell out of me is that this you're they're right about one thing this isn't
about trump this is about a dangerous lurch towards the far left police state. Totalitarianism is a leftist streak.
It is not a right-leaning streak.
We lean towards limited government.
Totalitarianism, big government, control of your money, your health care, and now your freedom, your privacy and everything is a left streak.
It is liberal fascism.
liberal fascism and that these these people with experience in the sphere in the space police state schindler ash or something i don't even know her last name it starts with an r i
don't know forgive me it's not even that difficult but i just don't remember the name
who does this fbi work for cnn proud they're proud of the police state
six foot thick walls in their skulls preventing the facts from getting in.
Saying things that are ridiculous.
To defend. They swore to defend the Constitution of the United States.
They're using it as toilet paper.
And what the liberal media, the Pravda hack goons in the media,
the same New York Times that defended the Soviet Union, still at it again today.
The Washington Post, democracy dies in the darkness.
You idiots turn the lights out.
Disgusting.
Makes me sick.
All right.
I'm going to get to just quickly some other news stories of the day i really again
didn't intend to spend that much time on this but i think it's important to take it out to 30 000
feet you understand exactly what's going on just leave it at this they are retreating the democrats
are terrified the story the whole time was trump colluded with the russians that has now fallen
apart because that was based on a fake dossier and a human spy. That story reflects extremely poorly now on the Democrats because the dossier was fake
and the American public does not want to hear about a spy, which is what he was, in the
Trump team, which is making the Democrats look bad.
They are now trying to get a horse trade going.
You guys don't bring up the spy again.
We'll pretend this wasn't about Trump the whole time.
The problem is they already swore to the warrants.
There is no backing away.
Chase them off the battlefield.
Do not let them retreat.
You hear me?
You spineless Republicans up on Capitol Hill.
Not all of you.
Hat tip out there to pains me to say some of this in some respects but hat tip out there to some of
you who are doing the right thing and i don't i don't mean to be a jerk about that but i'm
frequently disappointed by members of congress thank you go after these guys or it'll happen
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Yeah. All right. Let me check the timing. I want to just motor through a couple of others because
I've been really heavy on the Russia stuff the last few days. And I know a lot of you tune in also for the news of the day.
Kind of a funny story on a lighter note yesterday.
This is in the show notes to Washington Times piece.
You'll get a kick out of it.
Sure.
But it's sweet.
New York Times reporter Julie Davis was at the Nashville rally for Trump the other day was whining about how people were calling her fake news.
OK. Is premise one set up, Joe? New York Times reporter at rally tweeting and complaining about
being called fake news. The New York Times reporter gets called out at the rally for
reporting fake news. I'm not kidding. This is not a joke. At the rally, she reports the crowd size
for Donald Trump as being 1,000 people.
The crowd size was 5,500 people.
Okay?
Now, that's not a—
Listen, I would give her a pass, Joe, if it was 2,000, maybe even 3,000.
People can easily misinterpret crowd size.
They even did it as a Secret Service agent once in a while, where you'd be like, you were off by about 10%.
Not uncommon.
But 5,000?
How do you mistake 1,000 people But 5,000? How do you mistake
1,000 people for 5,000? Because you wanted to
make the president look like an idiot. So I find it
comical that she tweets. You've got to
read the piece. She's tweeting about
being a, oh gosh, this is so
we're called fake news at these rallies.
And then she tweets fake news
at the rally. It's like head
meat desk. Ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding. Unreal. Here's like head, meat desk. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Unreal.
Here's a pro tip for you media outlets.
If you want to stop being called fake news, stop being fake news.
I'm just saying.
Do your thing.
Do your thing, fellas.
And ladies.
All right.
Great piece by Walter Williams, The Daily Signal. I will put up in the show notes today about the morality of capitalism versus socialism.
This is frequently
an argument leftist side. A lot of times I think conservatives, and I will agree here with liberals,
which is rare, but liberals will tell us, I know, listen, you're making a mistake arguing purely on
the economic perspectives of capitalism. Now they're saying it for reasons to trap us in a
corner, but they're not wrong. Arguing the facts and the data of capitalism are Now, they're saying it for reasons to trap us in a corner, but they're not wrong.
Arguing the facts and the data of capitalism are great, and we should do that, but we should also keep in mind that there is a compassionate moral component to capitalism, too. What is that?
You know, I thought about an easy way to lay this out. And I think the problem we have with our Utes, to quote Joe Pesci from My Cuz of Any, the Utes in question.
The problem we have with the Utes is they don't really understand that capitalism isn't so much an ism at all, as in it's a belief system.
It just represents basic freedoms. And I thought about how to categorize this,
and I've done this before,
into a couple different easy ways
to explain the morality of capitalism.
And I'm not doing this in a flowery, snowflakey way.
Capitalism is moral.
It is ethical.
Well, what is it?
First, it's the existence of private property.
And sometimes things are better explained by negation, right?
Sometimes things are better explained, Joe, not by what they are, but by what they aren't.
So when you explain to people that capitalism represents the ownership of one yourself, you can't be enslaved, which was our original sin, which we remedied through hundreds of thousands
of lives lost, wiping the stain of slavery from our country.
But private property not only means the ownership of yourself, but the ability to work to acquire
things for you and your family's use that can't be taken from you.
Now, what is the opposite of that?
Property is always owned, right? Joe, it doesn the opposite of that? Properties always own, right?
Joe, it doesn't disappear, right?
The house you live in now, someone's going to own it, either you or the state.
That's right.
And if private entities, banks, Joe, Joe plus the bank if he has a mortgage,
if you don't share ownership of it, someone else does.
You bet.
So whether property is owned or not is not the question.
It's who owns it.
So when you're explaining to your younger, youthful audience how capitalism versus socialism,
they need to understand that private property doesn't mean ownership.
It is always owned.
The only question is by negation.
Okay, you don't believe in private property.
What do you believe in?
The alternate, which is the government owns your property.
So why do you have an
iPhone? Why do you have a computer?
Why not give it over to the government? Donate it
to charity. Don't worry,
they'll give it back to you. They're honest, right?
Good luck.
It's not just
the principle. It's the negated principle
that explains what the alternative is and makes it not palatable.
So you don't believe in private property.
That's what capitalism is.
The ownership of yourself.
You can't be enslaved.
And private property.
The ability to accumulate property.
What do you believe?
The government should indenture you to work for nothing?
You believe the government should own your stuff?
No, I don't believe that.
Okay, then you're a capitalist.
Second, wages.
It kind of piggybacks off the first.
But your ability to trade your labor for a wage is a hallmark of capitalism and not tyranny.
Joe, how does your labor work in tyranny in a mon of capitalism and not tyranny joe how does your
labor work in tyranny in a in a monarchy you work for the king yeah you work for the tyrant that's
right as they said in the soviet union you pretend to work and they pretended to pay you
with worthless money new york timeski right
the hallmark of capitalism is you work and you agree to a wage a value for your work again
explain it by negation what's your alternative what what am i working for that is capitalism
what what wait what is your suggestion what i should work for no no no um you should work for
what nothing yeah that's called indentured servitude or slavery what what's your so if
that's not you're suggesting what what are you suggesting we
should work for positive vibes be being paid in what marijuana leaves what's wrong with you
explain it by negation and it'll make sense so you don't believe in private property
you believe in ownership of property because every property's own but who do you believe
should own it oh the go okay so it makes sense for you to the government to take your stuff.
No, it doesn't.
Okay, thank you.
You're a capitalist.
Again, use negation.
Secondly, wages.
You don't believe we should work for wages?
Well, what the hell should we work for?
Good vibes?
I don't understand what you're saying.
Explain it by negation.
Finally, the price system.
Capitalism is hallmarked by private property,
labor, trading your labor for a wage an agreed wage
and a price system we allocate scarce resources in the society by people's willingness to work
and pay for them oh that's horrible joe we can't have that prices okay explain it by negation what's
your solution what's what's your solution there are two ways to allocate resources joe and only two
you can price them and people can work for them and acquire them or you can do what you can ration
them there is no third way so explain it by negation so let me get this straight you don't
believe in capital you believe in rationing that the government should pick a hundred chairs and
make them and ration them to 200 people and they're going to pick those people how? Oh, by the good ones.
They're going to find what?
Are they going to do an interview?
A chair interview?
A banana interview for bananas?
You know who the government's going to give them to?
Their buddies, the kleptocrats.
Bingo!
The oligarchs, the tyrants, their fellow tyrants.
The connected few.
So it's a great piece by Walter Williams.
This stuff is me kind of improv-ing on it,
but it's a really good piece.
It's in the show notes today
about the morality of capitalism.
And I just want you to understand,
explaining to these younger kids out there
that you don't have to explain capitalism by what it is.
You can explain capitalism by what it isn't.
If you don't approve of prices,
then you approve of rationing.
Ask them to recommend a third choice to you.
Well, what's the third option to allocate scarce resources?
Water, food?
How do you recommend they do it?
Okay, there isn't one?
Okay, thank you.
So you're a capitalist.
Wages.
You want to be a slave?
You believe in indentured servitude?
No.
Okay, so you're a capitalist.
You believe in trading your labor for an actual wage, not forced labor.
Private property.
You believe in private property.
Okay, no, I don't believe in private property.
Well, who should own the property?
Oh, nobody.
Nobody should own the property.
That's not the way it works.
The government either owns it or you do.
There's no third option there.
Oh, it's communal.
Communal? Communal was
the whole essence of communism. That the communist
government owned the communes and the property.
Where do you think they stole the food from where they
starved people to death?
Ah, frustrating
stuff, man.
Alright, I still have to go. I promised
a friend of mine
I would cover a story and I'm going to get to it in the next few days.
It's a really important one, and I want to get to it.
I've been so bogged down with everything.
But please check out the show notes today.
We've got some new products coming out at the Chum Store, too.
We'll have a new supply of shirts.
I know a lot of you have been looking for them.
Come in next month.
I'll probably announce it tomorrow because next month starts tomorrow, I think.
Right? Isn't it tomorrow, June month starts tomorrow, I think, right?
Isn't it tomorrow, June?
First day, yeah.
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