The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 741 The Two Questions Everyone Wants Answered

Episode Date: June 13, 2018

Summary: In this episode I address the disturbing news about both the Mueller witch hunt and Rod Rosenstein’s threats to Congress. I also debunk liberal myths about California’s economy and address some new economic news.    News Picks: This piece debunks some common economic myths about California.   Why were these redactions made in the FBI texts?   Hollywood is inadvertently helping Trump’s re-election efforts.   Is the Mueller probe’s investigation into the Russian influence campaign collapsing?   Food stamp enrollment drops again.    Despite record income tax revenue, we are still running massive deficits.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Dan Bongino Show. Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino. Alright, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Producer Joe, how are you today? I'm cool. What's shaking with you, man? You know, watching cable news, it's, you know, congrats to Sean Hannity, by the way, having the most watched show on all of the broadcasts and cable, network television and cable. So congrats to him. But watching the foreign policy swamp, establishmentarian intelligentsia, just take it to Trump over the last day and a half, over meeting with the North Koreans, is sad.

It really is, folks. It's sad. I get it. I'm a realist on this. Is anything going to come out of this North Korean deal? I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not going to rehash yesterday's show entirely. You know my point of view on it.

What's your option? Nuclear war? That's about, oh, okay. Let's just go to war as if it's like a decision to buy a box of chiclets in the 7-Eleven. But watching the foreign policy establishmentarians, whether from the Bush administration, whether people like Nicole Wallace on MSNBC, who's only claim to fame is getting routed in a presidential election as a campaign advisor, a complete zero on MSNBC and all these other people just attack Trump when they are Joe. I don't understand what they're basing on. Sean Davis at The Federalist has a short thread on Twitter where he's absolutely right.

It's almost tragic. Listening to these idiots who've been responsible for some of the failures in Iraq, some of the failures in overseas policy with North Korea from the Clinton administration on, some of the failures in Libya, to hear them go out there and talk as if they're in any way authoritative. It's, you know, I heard Joe Concha

on Tucker Carlson's show last night, who I like a lot, say something like it's like asking Jack Kevorkian for advice on like a life-saving drug or something, you know, the suicide doctor. I mean, asking these idiots who have been responsible for some of the biggest foreign policy calamities in modern American history for advice on foreign policy is a joke. And I only bring that up, folks, because this is indicative of what we see in government. folks because this is indicative of what we see in government yeah we see joe a general acceptance of failure yep as the norm and i know i gotta get into this but but i just have to get this out there you only see this in government where success is measured by degrees of failure not

degrees of success right in other words joe you're a ceo of joe or macost ink and you make high-end computers that's right dan you're measured by the stock price by productivity gains employee satisfaction i'm a captain of industry dan captain of industry sales numbers beating sales numbers that's how joe in the free market is measured. Success, numbers, growth. In government, you're measured by who failed the least. Like, well, Clinton blew it on North Korea. Hillary and Obama blew it in

Benghazi and Libya. The Bush administration made some missteps in Iraq. I mean, well, who screwed up the least? Oh, okay, let's get him on the news. Oh, man. Max Boot, again, Max Boot, who, I don't know what his

problem, Max Boot has lost his mind. Why people take this guy seriously, I can't understand. On cable news, again, losing his mind, infected with deep tissue level Trump derangement syndrome. Who cares what Max Boot has to say? These guys have been wrong on everything.

Everything. Now, listen. Just one more point on this. I'm not suggesting these aren't smart people. I'm not saying they have common sense. That's a different thing. But no, I'm serious when I tell you, Joe. I'm not suggesting they're not smart. A lot of them have done a lot of regional homework, power transfers, governing systems.

They've done homework on the culture, on the history of the place. That's great. There's nothing wrong with that. We don't need to be anti-academic, and that's not what I'm suggesting. Quite learned. I'm simply suggesting, Joe, that you know a lot about the podcast production business. Yeah. but fair question joe if i then asked you to put up your own money ten thousand dollars to invest in a portfolio

of stocks that invest in podcasting i'm simply suggesting yeah you'd give me the middle finger like you're doing now because you don't know that. He doesn't know the people doing the show. Matter of fact, Joe and I were just talking before the show about podcasting. Ironically, I didn't even intend to do this. Is the content good? Are they hard workers? How's their production? Joe doesn't know. Is there sound quality? You've never met them. But what do you mean, Joe? You're an expert. He is an expert. Joe does Adobe Audition. He knows how to load to Omni, how to load to Libsyn, how to load to iTunes. He knows all the mechanics of tagging, show notes, all this stuff. He's pretty much an expert in podcasts. He's dealt with

several platforms here. He's even involved in our new negotiations to expand the show and other things. But Joe is humble in saying, well, that doesn't mean I know about the other guy's podcast. So, simply stated, folks, this is the shortcoming of government. They think because they've done homework on North Korean governing systems,

Kim Jong-il's and Kim Jong-un and Kim Il-sung's diet, you know, who they were friends with, they think somehow that gives them some special insight into the head of Kim Jong-un. And all of a sudden we listen to them or we listen to no one. Personally, I'd rather have Trump sitting at the table, a guy who's actually negotiated significant deals, who's got a read for people and a BS antenna. I'd rather have his opinion than Max Boots.

I'm sorry. It's not anti-academic. I'm not saying that information can't be valuable in some respects. But it, clearly Joe, based on the evidence of your past failures, has given you no special insight into the preferred foreign policy route we should

take. I'm sorry. You're just wrong. This is only in government is this accepted. You suck. Well, who sucked less? Well, this guy sucked less than that guy. So let's have him on on MSNBC to critique Trump. That grip. Nice job.

It's the level of suck. It's not the level of excellence. That's the difference between the free market and government. You're measured by the least level of suck. Unreal, man. All right. Today's show brought to you by our buddies at iTar government. You're measured by the least level of suck. Unreal, man. All right, today's show brought to you by our buddies at iTarget. You know, I'm a big fan of iTarget, because if you're going to own a firearm,

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But for all intents and purposes right now, he is the attorney general when it comes to the Russia probe, because Jeff Sessions mistakenly, I believe, recused himself. Man, I heard a story yesterday. I'm having a hard time digesting. And if it's true, Rod Rosenstein needs to step down immediately. He needs to step down yesterday. Matter of fact, the day before yesterday. Apparently, Rod Rosenstein, again, the deputy AG, but who is now in charge of the all things Russia

because Jeff Sessions recused himself from it, met with members of oversight, congressional oversight. Their job, Joe, Congress's job is to oversee the Justice Department

and to make sure things are being done by the book, by the numbers. Yep. Rosenstein apparently had a meltdown about the threat to Rosenstein of being charged with contempt because they are not producing records. Now, just to be clear on this, that's Congress's job is to oversee the Justice Department to

make sure they're abiding by the laws, policies and procedures. The Justice Department and the FBI folks, for as much respect as I have for the members on the ground of the FBI, the FBI is not an independent operating agency. The FBI falls under the executive office of the presidency, and they are responsible to have oversight like everyone else. No one operates independent of the rest of the branches of the federal government. There's a checks and balances system, both vertically and horizontally. They are not an independent agency. Anybody who tells you that the FBI is an independent agency, there's no idea what they're talking about. Congress has the right to oversee them and their activities. Well, Rosenstein has, to say the least, has not been

forthcoming with documents demanded by Congress. And Congress is now saying, we're going to cite you for contempt if you don't produce this stuff. So apparently Rosenstein shows up. This guy is unbelievable. The cojones on this guy. He shows up to Congress and starts threatening them with a subpoena himself. Now, Rosenstein, get out. Get out. Get this guy out. Somebody needs to impeach this. If that story is true, Joe, that he walked into a congressional oversight committee and started threatening them for doing their jobs, conducting oversight of his activities, that's their job to do that. If that story is in fact true, Rosenstein needs to be impeached and thrown

out of that job on his butt yesterday that is a disgrace and I have to tell you I'm folks you know if you're a regular listener to the show you know I've been more than fair to Sessions more than fair Joe's giving me at the expense believe me of own time. I get a lot of emails on this. People are not happy. And I get it. You're my audience. You're right in a lot of respects on this. But Sessions last night on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox, defending Rosenstein, you saw this, Joe, is just, I can't explain it.

I can't explain it. Mr. Sessions, with all due respect, if anyone on your staff is listening, and I think they do, I have been there for you based on some information I think I have that's pretty reliable, that I know things are going on behind the scenes.

I realize there's some work being done. I've given you and the Justice Department where it's warranted the benefit of the doubt. At the expense, I'm talking to Sessions. I'm sorry, folks. You're listening in on a conversation, right? But it's where it's warranted the benefit of the doubt at the expense i'm talking to sessions i'm sorry folks if you're gonna be listening in on a conversation right yeah but it's important we've been more than fair this is the second biggest conservative podcast in the country we're not thanks to my great listeners it's not a small audience okay the whole take it east line was for you to give you some time but my my gosh, what were you thinking last night? If Rosenstein walked in there, your deputy attorney general and threatened members of

Congress with his own subpoena as a vindictive act rather than an appropriate procedural maneuver. Oh, my gosh. What do we what is this? We're living in a police state now? Where the head of the Justice Department walks into Congress and starts threatening elected members of Congress to subpoena their stuff? Mr. Sessions, I'm really sorry, but that's, no, no, no. You going on Tucker last night and defending what was potentially an act of grotesque malfeasance. No, you need to take charge of that. And if someone who works in your department actually did that, you need to take a public stand on this. He needs to be replaced in Congress. this he needs to be replaced in congress congress i'm but listen i i get it part of your job is to be castrated i get it like that's what you do you lose your your your guts you lose your

nerve your spine is removed when you get up on capitol hill and most of not all but most of you typically become um nothing but swamp spineless swamp creatures amoeba like structures right but you're gonna let and i'm not saying this is like when he's manly you're gonna remember in the street show you're gonna let him do that to you tony i'm not i'm not really i don't mean it this way but i mean it more in a constitutional way you're gonna let the deputy attorney he's not even the attorney general you're gonna let rod rosenstein walk in there and threaten you are you guys serious and ladies are you kidding me if that story's true rod rosenstein should get be dragged in in front

of a committee tomorrow and they should start taking votes to impeach this guy are you serious is this a joke what is rod rosenstein running? He's running some independent operation, independent of any oversight, Joe. Unbelievable. What a joke. All right, I've got more on this because there's some other astonishing news about Mueller. Let me just get through this quick

because I'd like to get on a bit of a roll here because this is important stuff. The Mueller probe is just entirely out of control. Procedures and norms have been thrown out the window. Lawyer-client privilege, everything. Now we have actual due process being thrown out the window too. All right, I'll get to that in a second. Today's show brought to you by buddies at Brickhouse Nutrition too. Big fan of Brickhouse Nutrition. They've been with me from the beginning. I use their products. I love their products. Miles, if you're listening, you got to send me some more Field of Greens.

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I know I ask every day, but it's easier to follow along with the show if you read the articles afterwards. I take about five or six articles I think are some of the best on the internet. I put them at the show notes at Bongino.com under the show notes tab. Or if you subscribe to my email list, I will email them to you. And there's one today from Law and Crime, which is not a right-leaning blog,

but it's a blog on legal issues of the day. Believe me, it's not a conservative-leaning entity at all. There is a fascinating article. It's short, very readable. It's not overly legalese. And it talks about the recent actions by bob mauler which blow legal norms out the window again what's going on well first joe we had of course the raid on trump's lawyer's office which is uh it's not unprecedented i you know i don't

like that's the most overused word in the English language next to unique, which is ironic. It's there are there are understood norms, the attorney client privilege, especially the attorney for the president, United States. You had better have set a really high bar. I mean, if Michael Cohen and I don't know, I don't happen to be fair. Michael Cohen was the president's lawyer. I am not privy to the information. If Michael Cohen is guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of very serious felonies, then folks, maybe we'll look back on it and say, all right, I don't really agree with this witch hunt, but I can't defend that kind of activity. But that activity, Joe, better be darn serious if you're going to start breaking attorney-client privilege, especially for the president's lawyer.

The Mueller probe has been out of control for the longest time. It is a witch hunt, in my opinion. It was founded on a myth. It was founded on a fallacy, a fairy tale of Russian collusion. It has no basis in real world fact. And there's nothing the Mueller probe is doing that the Department of Justice couldn't have done by itself. They did not need a special counsel to do what normal AUSA's assistant United States attorneys and the United States attorneys could have done themselves. Law and crime covers a new breach of protocol. In this case, constitutional due process. What happened?

Well, Joe, I don't know if you remember this, but a while ago, was it about two months ago? I'm losing track of time in this case. Three months ago? I'm losing track of time in this case. Three months ago, maybe? The Mueller team indicted these Russian companies on a multiple count indictment of attempting to use social media and other things to influence the American election. About three months ago. minds, Joe? Oh, this is it. Mueller's closing in. I always laugh, Joe, and I think it's funny because the media, every 10 minutes, this is it, Joe. They're closing in. If you Google Mueller's closing in, do it. It's a joke, but it's real. Google Mueller's closing in. Mueller is closing in. You will see probably five, 600 articles written by people who every single time Mueller does something, they say he's closing

in but mysteriously Trump has never any information that comes out of it so he indicts these Russians and for the use of Facebook apparently and the use of to influence the election you know which was ironic because if you read count 53 as i've said repeatedly in muller's indictment of these russian companies count 53 is clear as day that these russian companies joe were not only buying ads and trying to organize rallies for trump they were also organizing rallies against trump and for hillary which proves the point we've been making from episode 628, number 628 on when we started covering the Russia probe, that the Russians' goal was to sow chaos, not to have Trump win. And they won. The Russians won that fight because the Democrats have fed right into this narrative by furthering the chaos in an effort to damage Trump, which is the greatest irony of all. And the saddest.

The indictment so we clear on this because i want to explain to you what happened next i'm going to show you why the muller probe is in a world of trouble but you have to be clear on where we stand this muller a few months back indicts these companies these russian companies for buying facebook ads trying to organize rallies both for trump and against trump. And the allegation is that they did this in some kind of conspiracy to influence the election in the United States. Now, the influence operation was on both sides. Well, what happened? Again, the media lost their minds because they didn't read the indictment. Look at this. Look, the Russians, they were trying to help Trump. What about count 53 when they were trying to help Hillary? Oh, ignore that. Let's not

pay any attention to that. But what happened was there's a number of folks out there with some expertise in these matters, legal matters, who I've done a lot of homework on. They suggested to me and to others that Mueller did this, Joe, in an effort to try to advance this Russian collusion narrative, knowing the entire time that what was going to happen, these Russian companies would never show up in court. Yeah. Now, unlike when you indict an individual, when you invite these companies, they can have legal representation show up for an initial appearance. They don't have to have the actual person. In other words, if Joe Armacost works for JAB Inc. and I indict JAB Inc., they can have the lawyer show up. If I indict Joe, Joe has to show up for the initial appearance. What happened, folks? Lawyers for

these companies actually showed up. I'm getting this from very reliable people, that Mueller's whole thing was to feed the media narrative, to selectively launch this. Look, we got these Russian companies. Knowing they would never show up, these Russian companies, for court. There would be some warrant issued or whatever it may be, and that would be the end of it, and everybody would ride off into the sunset. Joe, Mueller's closing in.

He's closing in, buddy. Well, what happened and listen i'm not don't mistake this for cheerleading at all again if these russian companies are actually guilty i mean i actually believe in justice unlike muller and these other folks if they're actually guilty of trying to break the law and influence our elections then they should go to jail like anyone else right but joe unlike some other phonies out there, I actually believe in due process and I don't believe the Mueller Star Chamber everything they say is true

until it's proven in court. Crazy, Joe, how that happens. And you being Russian does not influence my decision at all. You could be Russian, Canadian, Bulgarian, or Colombian. If you're tried in a U.S. court system, you should actually be guilty.

Joe, I know that sounds nuts to the liberal police staters out there. Yes, it does, Dan. It does, because they don't believe in justice anymore. They believe in police state tyranny. Well, what happened? Mueller's got, the lawyers showed up. The lawyers said, ah, nah, we're going to go to trial. Mueller's team's like, wait, what?

What do you mean you're going to go to trial. Butler's team's like, wait, what? What do you mean you're going to go to trial? Now, folks, again, I believe this is where we provide some inside baseball analysis. I know Producer Joe appreciates. Having been a federal agent and been through federal trials myself, I actually was a federal agent on a case I was handed that we lost one time. And believe me, it's horrifying.

It wasn't my case. This guy left the office. Long story. But during a trial, folks, for those of you who don't have any kind of legal experience at all and totally understandable, you actually have to produce the evidence for the defense attorney. Why? So they can defend themselves. You're not allowed to hide your case, right?

You have to produce the evidence. So now all of a sudden, the defense team, the lawyers, Joe, for these Russian companies actually show up. And they're like, no, we're going to go to trial. By the way, we'd like to see the evidence. Mueller's team is first. First, Mueller's. This is a few weeks ago. Mueller's team tried to delay it.

Delay the trial. No, we want to tried to delay the trial. No, we want to put this off, Joe. The judge said, no, thanks. Speedy trial act. There's a speedy trial act. In other words, the government cannot, say, arrest Joe Armacost for felonious mopery and then delay the trial for 15 years. Why? Because Joe's life would be wrecked for 15 years.

So you're entitled to a speedy trial by law. So the Russian lawyers, please follow me, folks, is super important and it dictates almost in pure form how corrupted this Mueller operation has become. They're throwing all these norms out the window. The Mueller probe goes to court and goes, no, no, we want to delay the trial now. Why would you delay the trial? You just indicted these Russians.

I thought you had them hook, line, and sinker. The Russian lawyers, the lawyers show up and go, no, no, we want to go to trial. Thank you. Have a nice day. Lawyer goes, hey, listen, Bob, you chose, right, Joe, to put them through the justice system. The justice system in a constitutional republic has rules. Shocking to Mueller, I guess, who seems to not understand that. Guy's a lawyer himself, right?

Mueller's confused that the justice system apparently has rules. They say, we want to go to trial. We want to see the evidence. The delay doesn't work. Now the Mueller team's like, no, we don't want to show them the evidence either. the delay doesn't work now the muller team's like no we don't want to show them the evidence either now if you read the piece i've been referencing on law and crime the blog by the way not a right leaning outlet at all the lawyer who writes the piece is like hey muller's on very tenuous ground here joe these are constitutional norms and practices but once you put somebody, Mueller, you chose to indict him.

Right. If you weren't ready to show your butt and to show the evidence to the bad guys like anyone else in the justice system, Russian, Colombian, Canadian, or Martian, you chose to put him in the justice system. And in a constitutional republic, we have rules.

Liberals, I know this doesn't matter to you. I know the police state you know crowd out there that wants everybody thrown into the star chamber locked up tortured and killed because they support donald trump i know this doesn't matter i'm not talking to you imbeciles i'm talking to normal people that does not include you and i know i get an email please don't call them imbeciles you may may not convert them. I don't care. I'm not trying to convert communists. I'm sorry, folks.

I'm angry. You should be too. Mueller's raiding the offices of lawyers. He's trying to delay trials indefinitely. He brings these Russians into the justice. He did this into the United States. And now he's not ready to go to trial. And when there's Russian lawyers say, okay, we're ready to go to trial.

We'd like to actually defend ourselves. Mueller goes, no, we don't want to give you the evidence. The judge is like, wait, what? So the judge in the case, Joe, just this week said, no, you're going to have to produce the evidence, dude. This is the United States. This isn't the North Korean justice system. You're entitled to a defense. Is this shocking to liberals? Are you hearing this for the first time? Joe, I'm not messing around. Liberals, are you hearing this for the first time? That when you're prosecuted by the government in the u.s system they were not tried in the hague they were not tried in any international

court bob muller decided himself to use the u.s justice system which thank god that is not using the lord's name in vain i literally mean God. Thank you God for giving us this wonderful country where if the government prosecutes you, you actually get to defend yourself. Even if you're a Russian. This is shocking to some liberals. Now having said that

Joe, Bob Mueller could have referred this back to a counterintelligence investigation where the counter is not a criminal investigation and there would be different policies and procedures. Exactly. But Bob Mueller, Joe, decided to bring this case into the criminal justice system where if you are going to be prosecuted, you are darn well entitled to see the evidence the government has against you. Yep. well entitled to see the evidence the government has against you. Because we don't

throw people in jail, beat them, kill them, and prosecute them and go, oh, by the way, you can't see anything we're doing. And Mueller's team amazingly fought this. No, no, we don't want to show them the evidence. Because we may give up information

that would assist other Russians still trying to influence our elections. So put it back in the counterintelligence system and get it out of the courts. You did this. What is wrong? Is Bob Mueller this dumb? Is this guy this stupid? No, I'm serious.

Oh, gosh, you're going to insult Bob Mueller. Don't care. Don't care at all. Bob Mueller is probably going to interview me next. Bob Mueller, he doesn't need anything. But Dan, what'd you do wrong? Nothing, but it doesn't matter. Bob Mueller interviews everyone, anyone he wants.

He's the most powerful person. He is Thanos from the Infinity War series. Bob Mueller's found seven Infinity Stones, not just five. Bob Mueller has found the judicial Infinity infinity stone where he invents his own rules. We go to trial. There's no speedy trial. I'll try you whenever I feel like it. Bob Mueller, we're going to prosecute you in criminal court. So I get to see the evidence, you know, due process. Nah, nah, you don't. We're good. We're good, man. Bob Mueller, do I get a lawyer's or attorney client privilege? Nah, nah, not He's found the judicial infinity stone.

Oh, my gosh. This guy's out of control. He's a lawyer. He didn't know there was going to be a discovery process? What, Bob? Are you this dumb? Are you and your team this stupid that you brought a bunch of Russians into U.S. courts, you didn't understand that they were entitled to a lawyer,

you didn't understand they were entitled to a speedy trial, and you didn't understand they were going to ask for discovery? Oh, and Joe, now that they asked for discovery, my gosh, if they ask for discovery, we're going to give up all this information that the Russians could use against us. Then why did you bring it into court, you dope? Are you this stupid? Folks, please, I'm begging you. It's not my site.

I don't get any, well, I host the articles at my site, but the Law and Crime blog at my show notes, please read it. This is not some right- right leaning maniac who wrote it. It's a lawyer with some experience who writes in very clear and concise language like, hey, this is insane. This is crazy. Of course, there was going to be discovery. Yeah.

The reason Bob Mueller indicted these guys is because he's a showman now. the reason Bob Mueller indicted these guys is because he's a showman now. He's turned into a one-man clown show. Running an out-of-control, ridiculous... You know what? It's not a one-man. It's a multiple-man-and-woman clown show. I take that back. Andy Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Seble. This is ridiculous.

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Interesting piece by Margo Cleveland, who's doing some great work over at The Federalist, about the Papadopoulos thing. And I just want to bring this up quickly because I got some other stories I want to get to on taxes and food stamps and an interesting piece. I have my own website that Matt Palumbo put together. But Joe, there's a big controversy kind of behind the scenes. And I know this because I'm not going to say some of the author's names, but there's a small group of people. Can I give you some behind the scenes, folks? Let me do this for you. This is actually interesting. There's a small group of people with, how do you say this would sound like a jerk or

pretentious i i'm just gonna say with followings whether it's podcasts or or uh radio shows or they do writing and they're followed by a lot of people popular yeah yeah yeah popular they have they have eyeballs they have eyeballs and ears and have some influence who have been working um not coordinating but working together we exchange information sometimes there's some emails that go back and forth about developments in this spy gate case um i was talking a while ago with someone i'm not going to say his name but one of the controversies that's been developing and a lot of us are trying to figure out, there's two big ones right now. The first one I'll mention is I'm not going to talk about today, but I just want to make sure you understand is what was the role of Mifsud? I've insisted from the get-go that Joseph Mifsud, who gave the information to Papadopoulos about the emails, Joseph Mifsud's role, if he was in fact connected to Western intelligence,

blows this case wide open because then it's an obvious case of entrapment. In other words, if the guy who started this whole thing on April 26th, this Maltese professor who has very suspicious connections to Western intelligence, Western meaning at friendlies, not so much the Russians, if this guy was instructed by someone in a Western intelligence sphere to give information to Papadopoulos about Hillary's emails, which a spy, Halper say, would pull out later, we then push the information in. It's like pushing information into Joe. Like, Joe, Joe, you're going to rob a bank? You're going to rob a bank? You're going to rob a bank? Then someone interviews Joe a few days later pretending to be a friendly, and Joe mentions something about robbing a bank, and they arrest Joe for robbing a bank. Like, Joe, Joe, you're going to rob a bank? You're going to rob a bank? You're going to rob a bank? Then someone interviews Joe a few days later, pretending to be a friendly, and Joe

mentioned something about robbing a bank, and they arrest Joe for robbing a bank. He's like, well, it was my idea. This guy, Bobby Bag of Donuts, told me about it the other day. Who was Mifsud? That's question number one that everybody's trying to get to. Trust me when I tell you, everybody's trying to get to the bottom of this right now. If Mifsud turns out to be a Western intelligence asset and not a Russian, as the Mueller indictment claims, an associate of the Russians, doesn't specifically say in the Mueller indictment he's a Russian agent. I think that's deliberate, Joe. But if Mifsud turns out to have been a plant by a friendly at our instruction or kind of tacitly done in other words they did it and that's just don't say anything but we know about it oh my gosh you are gonna have some

bombshells but the second big question that everybody's trying to get to the bottom of is where the hell did the term emails come from pardon my language on that one where the heck did the term emails come from it's a family-friendly show forgive me folks i'm sorry what do i mean by that mifsud who talks to papadopoulos in april this maltese professor papadopoulos seems to remember, based on some of his testimony, a conversation about emails, and his wife, Simona Mangiante, insists that Papadopoulos thought Mifsud was talking about Hillary's emails, those missing 30,000 emails we all know about. Keep that in the back of your head. It's important. Hillary's emails. Keeping Hillary's emails. That's how Papadopoulos remembers it.

Here's the problem, folks. Mifsud, while talking to some of his friends who've gone public, insists he never mentioned these Hillary emails at all. Matter of fact, he insists he never mentioned emails at all. The guy Papadopoulos talks to, Downer, so remember, Mifsud's the push, Joe, pushes information into the Trump team to pull it out later to make them look guilty. Mifsud's the push, Joe, pushes information into the Trump team to pull it out later to make them look guilty. Everybody tracking me? The push is insisting, Mifsud, I never said anything about emails. The poll, who was Downer later on and then Halper as a spy, they're both insisting that Papadopoulos didn't mention emails either.

Downer's like, no, no, no, I met with Papadopoulos, and Downer's the Australian diplomat who is alleged to have started this whole thing by telling the FBI through channels about Papadopoulos mentioning something about dirt on Hillary. Downer's now insisting that the word emails was never mentioned either. Folks, think about what I'm telling you here, right? Let me just give you an analogy to sum this up for you because it'll make better sense. If I'm trying to entrap Joe, if I'm a dirty cop,

and I'm trying to entrap Joe in a bank, a conspiracy to rob a bank, Joe has no interest in robbing a bank at all. I don't know Joe from Adam. But I, my friend doesn't like Joe. And I have law enforcement powers. I'm a cop or a federal agent but my friend doesn't like Joe and I have law enforcement powers. I'm a cop or a federal agent. My friend says, hey, can you do me a favor? Can you nail Joe? All right, let's go get this guy. Let's nail him to the wall, right? I have a guy who meets

Joe. Let's say Joe goes to the local watering hole like Moe's and the Simpsons on Thursday nights. Guy sits up next to a bar. After a few weeks, he befriends Joe. They talk in their chat and have a few brewskis. By week three, guy goes, hey, dude, listen, I met you. I got a friend in a bank. And they say after hours, there's some money laying around. Is there going to be any violence involved? But if I can get the code after hours, we can go in and steal the money.

Would you be interested? Joe's horrified at first. Oh, my God. But say next week, you know, Joe's like, listen, it's not really my thing, but, you know, tell me more. And then by week four, I'm not saying Joe's completely without guilt in this, but by week five, he's like, you know what? That's not my thing.

I'm sorry. I'm a decent guy. I'm not going to rob the bank, right? Joe goes back to Moe's. He never sees the guy again. Three, four months later, another guy sits down next to Joe Moe's. Completely different guy. Hey, buddy. Joe befriends him. A couple weeks go by.

By week three, he goes, Hey, man, you ever think about robbing a bank? Joe goes, You know, I didn't, but I got this connection to this guy. The guy's got a wire. Next thing you know, police! Don't move! Police! Joe's on the ground. Joe's like, What did I do? What did I

do? Conspiracy to rob a bank. Joe's in his head thinking, I wasn't going to rob a bank. I just mentioned that I heard from this guy about a bank. Folks, I 100% believe that's what happened with Papadopoulos. Mifsud was potentially

the push, and Halper and Downer were the pulls on this, were pulling the information out. But what's the problem? The problem in the case, Joe, is what if in the bank robbery case, you find out after all of this, that the guy never mentioned the word bank robbery. He was talking about you going to an ATM after hours. In other words, say you debriefed the push and the pull later on. The people working for you. They go, man, we got Joe.

We locked him up for that bank robbery thing. And the guy's like, wait, what'd you do? We locked him up. Conspiracy to rob a bank. We got him in Moe's. Remember you told him about the bank robbery? What if the push in the beginning, the guy you meet first goes, I never mentioned bank robbery. I said I was going to go to the Publix ATM after hours and get some money.

All of a sudden the cop's like, oh. Uh oh. They panic. You never mentioned a bank robbery. How are we going to charge him a conspiracy to commit bank robbery I don't know you better think of something so they go to the poll guy the second guy Joe met in Moe's

hey man please please tell me he mentioned a bank robbery no no he didn't matter of fact he said he was going to get money from an ATM oh now we're really in trouble folks that analogy should explain to you why the Papadopoulos case is giving the government such headaches right now nobody in the case recalls hearing the word emails except Papadopoulos. Now you may say, you just refuted your own point.

Joe and Moe's admitted he heard about a bank robbery, right? Papadopoulos admitted he heard, Papadopoulos used the term, I heard about emails. He used the term emails. But I was talking to a guy the other day who's a prolific writer in this space. He has one theory theory i have a different one i'm pretty sure i'm right what if papadopoulos who wasn't even interviewed folks until january

january he meets follow this timeline he meets guy number one in mose right The pusher. Mifsud, April 26th of 2016. Papadopoulos isn't even interviewed about this, folks, until January 27th of 2017. It's almost a year later. Do you think Joe's going to remember the details of a conversation in Moe's with the pusher? I'm suggesting to you that the FBI agents in the case were already clued into the term emails listen for the emails just like they'd be listening for joe to say bank robbery right did joe say bank robbery he said bank robbery get him for conspiracy to rob a bank so you may say dan why would papadopoulos say that someone offered him emails if both the pusher and the puller never mentioned anything about emails folks what was the biggest topic of conversation about the hillary campaign

during the entire campaign cycle of 2016 the emails may i suggest to you that it's possible just possible that maybe you know mifsud may have mentioned emails. I believe that, in fact, there may have. But is it possible if he didn't and he said something about dirt or information? Is it possible that Papadopoulos just misremembered the entire thing because it was a year later and he had been bathed in conversations through the media about Hillary's emails? So I'm going to offer you two distinct possibilities. Mifsud could have been, potentially could have been a Western intelligence asset and was in fact talking about a bank robbery in Moes with Joe and was mentioning emails to Papadopoulos.

to Papadopoulos. Or maybe Mifsud was an intelligence asset or wasn't, but never mentioned anything about emails at all and screwed up the entire conversation at the beginning and Papadopoulos just misremembered the entire thing. The bottom line is, everybody but Papadopoulos is denying the word emails was used. Either way, this looks bad for the government.

Why? Let me just wrap this up for you. Because if Mifsud was, in fact, a Western intelligence asset, was the pusher in Moe's, he was the pusher pushing the information into Papadopoulos' head. Don't you think it would be in Mifsud's best interest to disappear and to disavow any knowledge of the term emails? Joe, where's Mifsud right now? You don't know.

Neither does anyone else, folks. Mifsud disappeared. He's gone. The FBI interviewed him right after Papadopoulos. Mifsud conveniently disappeared. Nobody's gone. The FBI interviewed him right after Papadopoulos. Mifsud conveniently disappeared. Nobody's heard from him since. He's only now we know through friends said, oh, I had nothing to do with emails. The story doesn't work for Mueller's team either way. If Mifsud did mention emails and was in fact a Western intelligence asset, we have the biggest

entrapment scheme in human history. If Mifs didn't mention emails then muller just prosecuted a guy george papadopoulos on a charge it doesn't even exist because nothing but nothing about bank robbery was ever discussed in mose between guy one or guy two the pusher or the puller either way this is a loser. Now you see why Mifsud needs to disappear? Bye-bye Joey. Go disappear now. Either way, this story looks super shady for the Mueller team.

Either Mifsud was the pusher or you've got no case against Papadopoulos at all. You like that? Yes, I do, Dan. Joe's giving me the thumbs up yeah by the way even if they did mention emails papadopoulos's wife who's been given some interviews publicly has suggested that papadopoulos was talking about the hillary missing emails why does that matter because that was already public information the democrats case is case centers around the DNC emails,

which weren't public at the time Mifsud and Papadopoulos spoke. You get that? The Mueller cases that Mifsud understood that the Russians had hacked the DNC and had stolen DNC emails, that wasn't public when Mifsud met Papadopoulos in April.

Nobody knew. That would be super shady. If someone approached Joe, hey, I've got these DNC emails in April, Joe would be like, what DNC emails? That wasn't in the news. Then Joe, that guy probably does have inside information. But do you understand, folks,

even if Mifsud did talk about the emails, Papadopoulos' wife, who you have to insist is talking for Papadopoulos, she's married to him, is insisting that that's not what the guy said, that he was talking about Hillary's emails.

Which was in the public, that was all public. What's your, do you understand any fork you take in this investigation it all ends in you walking off a judicial cliff there is this whole thing is a sham total sham complete scamorama oh boy all right i have a uh really great article matt palumbo who writes for my debunk this portion my website has a really great piece does a Palumbo, who writes for my Debunk This portion of my website, has a really great piece. Does a lot of good work,

but this one really caught my eye. He went back to the well in an oldie but goodie. I had done some debunking of Robert Reich a long time ago. He's a far left

liberal, I don't even want to call him an economist because he doesn't know what he's talking about. But Reich had made this point about how California is this model for economic success, how liberal policies work, and look at all these backward

states like Texas and Kansas. In other words, if they can only be California. So Matt masterfully debunks that in a very short but sweet piece. This is not a knock on the people who live in California. Don't take it personal. I don't, man, love California. I go to Beverly Hills all the time to meet with the, it's where my doctor is out there, guy who takes care of my shoulder, right? But your government sucks. Maybe we should put that on a shirt. Dear California, we love you, but your government sucks. That'd be a great one. I'm sure that would sell pretty well in California, actually. Matt does a masterful job of entirely debunking the myth that California is some model for economic success. For instance, Reich cites a statistic.

So this is specifically for you Californians and others out there, that, well, they earn 11% more than the national average. Okay, he's right. Californians do earn 11% more than the national average. Wow, Joe's probably thinking to himself, so Dan, you just made Reich's point. California's doing wonderful. Double digit more, 11% more than the national average. Wow, Joe's probably thinking to himself, so Dan, you just made Rice's point. California's doing wonderful. Double digit more, 11% more than the national average. Well, that comes with a slight caveat. Buyer beware, folks. That buyer beware is, as Matt points out in a piece, which I'll put in the show notes, and it's on the debunk this

also on my website at Bongino.com. Qu what rice excludes joe is the fact that the average mortgage costs 44 percent more in california while rents cost 30 37 percent more on average unless one wants to go homeless the cost of living differences more than erase any nominal wage gains that californians can Folks, far left liberal zoning and regulations, which have restricted the housing supply in California, have made the cost of living exorbitant. Yes, you may earn 11% more, but your ability to actually buy stuff in California

is significantly worse than the state's righteous bashing. Do you see how liberals always do this? This is what drives me wild about liberals like Reich. They never ever tell you the truth. They massage the numbers, they cherry pick statistics, but they don't give you the real on the ground meaning for what they're saying.

Oh, they are 11% more. Yeah, but can you buy stuff? No, you can't buy stuff with it. Oh, okay. Thank you. Hey, Joe, I'm going to offer you... Joe and I are doing some negotiating. Joe, I'm going to offer you a $500,000 salary. Yeah, baby! Wow. That Dan Bongino show pays great. Here's the thing, though. You're going to pay me back a $450,000 fee for the privilege of hosting the show. All of a sudden... Now, I go on the air, right, Joe? And Joe's like, screw that deal, Dan. I love you, but I'm not taking that.

Now, I go on the air, right, Joe? And Joe's like, screw that deal, Dan. I love you, but I'm not taking that. But I can go on the air, Joe. This is what they do, liberals, and say, Dan Bongino, the Dan Bongino show pays the most competitive wages in the entire podcast arena. I'd be right. It's not a lie. I'm telling you the truth. But on the ground, when you actually put those figures in context,

because context is what the real world is all about, when you put that figure in context, oh, but he also demands a $450,000 fee for that privilege. You're like, wait, wait, wait. So I'm not even making, what, $50,000 out of this deal after taxes? No, you're not. But I do still pay the most competitive wage.

This is what liberals do. California, they earn 11% more more they can't buy anything now right here's the thing what bothers me about liberals rice knows that rice knows that he's not stupid he's manipulative now if that's not it and and you may say well what does this have to do with anything? Well, yesterday's show, we covered Seattle and liberalism eating itself alive. We also covered New York, where a white patriarchal mayor in de Blasio, and I only use that term to knock critical theory and the left's obsession with identity politics. I don't care if the mayor's white. I don't care if he's green.

The left does, though, that a liberal mayor in New York, de Blasio, that he is instituting a policy which has incentivized minority groups to basically say to each other for the first time, like, hey, if we're going to play this identity politics game, we're going to eat ourselves alive. Listen to yesterday's show. You'll see what I'm talking about. It's about school admissions,

how Asian Americans are being discriminated against. And now all of a sudden, Asian Americans, a minority group, a lot of them are like, wait, wait, this identity politics stuff isn't quite working out for us. Because it's not. So this is why Matt heard my show.

And he's like, listen, we're going to talk about socialism, identity, politics, and critical theory. Let's just, let's strike it right to California where this stuff lives and breathes, Joe. I brought up also Seattle, of course, in Washington, where they had to repeal a grotesque tax on businesses in Seattle. And I got a nice email from a listener, by the way, you know who you are, who said, Dan, he goes, one mistake, let me correct you. And you know, when we screw something up, he's like, listen, you said on yesterday's show

that Amazon and Starbucks and these liberal companies complained about the tax, which they did. That wasn't wrong. But he's like, your one mistake was you didn't emphasize the backlash on the ground. It was a long email. He's like, Dan, you have no idea, even in liberal Seattle, how PO'd people were about this.

He said people were signing petitions in the street show. This is a liberal city against this head tax, $275 per employee. Businesses were expected to pay this tax, which would have probably put some businesses out of business or at least incentivize them to move. He said, you have no idea on the ground how unpopular this was. You know what it reminded me of, Joe?

What was the tax in Maryland that Larry Hogan got elected on? The rain tax. The rain tax. Maryland, a deep blue, if not the bluest state in the union where the same thing happened. They instituted a deep blue, if not the bluest state in the union, where the same thing happened. They instituted a rain tax, a tax on impervious surface on your property, concrete, flat roofs. They were going to take, this is not a joke, folks.

They take satellite pictures of your property and your house and they measure the impervious surface. and they measure the impervious surface, you then get taxed on that because the rain and the runoff, according to their allegations, would not soak into the soil if you had a lot of concrete. And you would, yeah, and the runoff would cause environmental problems, and you should be taxed on it. What's the problem with that? Folks, the bills for factories with big, large, flat roofs, some of them were $10,000, $20,000, $25,000, $30,000. These businesses went wild. The people went crazy. Wait, let me get this straight. You're going to take a satellite picture of my house to tax me?

Liberalism is a cancer. Cancer, by definition, eats the self. It is the metastasizing of your own tissue to kill you. Not the host. You are the host. It's your own tissue. Liberalism is a cancer. It eats itself.

Once liberalism is hoisted on top of the back of liberals, they can't take it. California is an example of this, where liberalism lives and breathes daily, and it's eating itself alive. Here's some more california statistics in this piece by the way i strongly encourage you to check out at my website today bongino.com even though 43 of california's general fund budget is earmarked for k through 14 education california students this is not funny i'm not laughing this is just an iran liberals eating themselves california students underperform the national average on reading and math scores.

The percentage of Californians attending a four-year college hasn't changed in 50 years, despite the trend nationally being upward. During a time period when California's prison population declined 12%, spending on prison guards increased by $500 million. California only builds 44% of the housing it needs annually, costing the state $140 billion a year in economic output due to people who can't afford to live and work in California. But wages are 11% higher.

Yeah, but you can't afford a house! Nutbags? Electricity prices in California rose five times faster than the national average between 2011 and 2017. Californians pay 60% higher than the national average for electricity. This is despite California having the highest output of hydroelectricity, which is the state's cheapest source of electricity. According to the american society society of civil engineers report card california joe clearly they have an a for infrastructure and stuff like that because it's california no no they don't no sorry joe d plus d plus texas wasn't much

better with a c minus to be fair but you'd expect them to have an f if you listen to robert reich where texas is some kind of according to Reich, is some kind of a hellhole compared to California, which is the Mecca. Finally, and for all Reich said about environmental regulation, CO2 emissions rose in California from 2011 to 2015 while they fell in the rest of the country for the same period. What a goof. Read this piece. It is a beautiful job by Matt at Bongino.com. It'll be in today's show notes. Strongly, strongly encourage you to read it. I will also include some articles about federal revenue. Joe is up. We've had record revenue through eight months in contrast to the naysayers in the government that government revenue is going to collapse after the tax cuts.

Record revenue through eight months of $1.143 trillion. And the deficit is still $500 billion, proving again that the government will spend whatever you give them. One more thing. Food stamp usage has now dropped to 40,083,954 people, the lowest since 2010. So a little good news, bad news. Bad news, the deficit's still high, regardless of the fact that we've had record government revenue. Good news, food stamp usage is dropping under the Donald Trump exploding economy, which is twofold excellent. One, we get people off government rolls for government support, which is financed by taxpayers. Secondly, those people, most of them are off the food stamp rolls

because they're going back to work and are now paying taxes rather than taking taxes out of the pot. So that's good news. All right. Thanks a lot, folks. I appreciate you listening today. Please subscribe to the show on iTunes. The subscriptions help us move up in the charts dramatically, which we've been. Follow, I think the button says follow on iHeartRadio. Subscribe on iTunes, also available on Spotify. You can also ask Alexa to play the skill and Google Play as well. We really appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

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