The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 752 Expect the Democrats to Double Down on Crazy
Episode Date: June 28, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the liberal meltdown over the Supreme Court vacancy announced yesterday with Anthony Kennedy's retirement. I also address the role of President Trump in elections an...d how it’s causing a media meltdown.  News Picks: How does Mexico treat its illegal immigration population?  President Trump can drain the swamp in the Republican primaries.  This Supreme Court opening is devastating for the Democrats.  Here are 6 rulings that could be overturned by a constitutionalist Supreme Court.  Here are the political implications of the Anthony Kennedy retirement.  These filibuster tweets by Democrats look pretty silly now.  Mike Lee should be the Supreme Court pick.  Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today
still alive and well yes yes you know as the audience has expanded on the show folks it uh
oh yeah when i start the show and i start recording and Joe gives me the countdown, I'm always
honored.
I'm kind of astonished in a way that so
many people have chosen this show as their podcast
of choice, and I deeply appreciate it.
I have been reading all your incredible emails,
trying to respond to as many as I can.
It's really
a great honor. Thank you very much. A big
news day yesterday. I was
going to do a special episode, but
I do my NRA TV show at night at
5.30 p.m. Eastern time
live at NRATV.com
which is free. So whenever there's breaking news
during the day, I've been covering at night
on the NRA TV show. Feel free
to tune in, folks. It's free. We're doing
incredible ratings over there.
You know, I was wondering why I didn't hear from you.
Yeah, that's why.
I've been covering this stuff at night now.
And then on the next day, by the way,
it gives me an opportunity on the podcast
to digest all of what happened
and give you a more thorough,
kind of some conclusive findings
based on what I believe to be the real narrative
that's out there, not the fake narrative
the media puts out.
Of course, what am I talking about? The just incredible news that Anthony Kennedy in the
Supreme Court, the swing vote in many cases is stepping down and retiring and retiring in July.
This is huge. Now, it goes to prove my point in the Trump era that there's no better time,
Joseph, for you and I to be in the conservative content production arena.
This is the best time ever.
But having said that, you cannot step away from the news for two minutes.
You better be on top of it.
I was actually in the gym, sweating it out a little bit, having a really tough workout,
when I saw the breaking news come over on a notification on my phone screen that he was stepping down.
This is a cataclysmic shift in the ability of conservatives to take back the country and limit government.
Cataclysmic. Cataclysmic in a good way. Boom. This is going to be huge. All right. Before I
get to that, the ramifications and some, I'm going to give you my choice. I know some of you are
going to disagree. It's okay. My choice for who should take the spot. And I'm going to give you my choice. I know some of you are going to disagree.
It's okay.
My choice for who should take the spot.
And I'm going to give you a reason.
By the way, cataclysmic for Democrats.
Apocalyptic for Democrats.
Good for us.
Just so you understand where I'm going with that. Because I always get a lot of emails from people, which is cool.
But I'm trying to save myself some effort there.
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A couple of
points on this.
I'm going to give you the ammunition
you need to combat your liberal
friends in a debate because they're going to make a couple of arguments here about the opening.
They're going to say, well, well, well, the Republicans refused to accept the advice and consent role of the Senate during an election year.
Barack Obama, when Obama nominated Merrick Garland.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's get rid of that right away.
Okay?
Number one, that was the Biden rule.
In other words, in a presidential election year, which we are not in in case the liberal media failed to figure that out.
Maggie Haberman of the New York Times seems a little confused about this.
This is a midterm election.
It's not a presidential year.
What is that?
I just got like a, that's weird.
I have a new computer for the podcast, and I guess it's accepting text messages.
I'm like, Joe, did you do that?
When the Republicans, I know I have total ADHD folks.
I know it drives you could drive me crazy too sometimes,
but that's the show.
It's real,
right?
When the Republicans said Mitch McConnell to his credit,
I got to give McConnell some credit on this.
When McConnell said in the last year of the Obama presidency,
when Antonin Scalia tragically died,
when he said,
we are not going to take up the Merrick Garland nomination,
it's an election year,
they were following the advice of Joe Biden. It is Joe Biden, former vice president and Democrat,
who in 1992 suggested the very same thing. I say this because this isn't about whataboutism,
folks. Again, this is about the Democrats setting a precedent. Joe Biden and the Democrats early on saying, listen, during a presidential election year, this is Biden and the Democrats. It's probably not a good idea to put up a nominee for the Supreme Court right before a presidential election. Let the public choose a new president. And after that, we will take up as the Senate, the advice and consent role on the,
on the new president's nomination. Now, in case you don't believe me that this is a Democrat idea,
what McConnell did, you may disagree with the idea folks. That's fine. That's fine. I get it.
You may say even as a Republican, well, McConnell should have done the advice and consent role,
taken up the Merrick Garland nomination. Fine. But I'm just saying, let's not pretend that this is a uniquely Republican thing,
refusing to take up the president's nominee for confirmation during an election year.
Here is the audio of Joe Biden in 1992 during a presidential election suggesting the Joe Biden rule,
which is that the Senate should not take
up a new nominee. It is my view that if a Supreme Court justice resigns tomorrow or within the next
several weeks or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not and not name a nominee
until after the November election is completed. There you go. The Senate Judiciary Committee
should seriously consider not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination
until ever until after the political campaign season is over.
There you go again.
There's Joe Biden himself, former vice president of the United States,
standard bearer for the Democrat Party now.
And dummies everywhere.
And by the standards, I'm not talking about high standards either.
You feel stupid.
Yeah, exactly.
He's Joe Biden.
It's a three-letter word.
J-O-B-S. Jobs.
Joe, that's four.
You go out with a double-barreled shotgun
and you fire two rounds into the air
to scare them off. Yes, that's
a great idea because if he sees the double-barreled
shotgun, he'll now know you have no ammunition
left. Joe Biden.
They'll put you all back in chains still this is joe joe biden that did you notice what he said joe that this has
been the standard practice for a long time and he's and he's right yeah during a presidential
election year if a supreme court vacancy comes open it was pretty standard practice that the uh
they wait till the election season is open and let the new president,
if he's reelected, if his party's reelected, pick that nominee, okay?
Right.
So what Mitch McConnell did under the Merrick Garland nomination for the Scalia seat was
nothing new.
Nothing new, ladies and gentlemen, please.
You can disagree with it, but let's not pretend what Mitch McConnell did was some unprecedented
act of senatorial obstruction.
You're just making it up
and you're lying. Save that Joe Biden clip. Commit it to memory. Because again, argue with your
liberal friends. I get it. I understand you have a problem with the principle. Maybe you believe
that Barack Obama was the president, even as a Republican. I don't agree with this, but
maybe you think Barack Obama was the president. He had the right to have his nominee heard for a confirmation hearing.
Fine, that's fine.
But let's not, again, pretend that this is some kind of unique Mitch McConnell thing.
Number one.
Number two, this is not a presidential election year, ladies and gentlemen.
Please, I don't know what the New York Times and these other knuckleheads are putting out in their tweets. But this is a completely different set of circumstances.
The House of Representatives and the Senate does not nominate a candidate for the Supreme Court.
They confirm not the House of Representatives.
The Senate confirms that person, man or woman.
They don't nominate them.
This is in other words, this is not a presidential election year.
You get that right.
This is a midterm.
Joe Biden and the Joe Biden rule from 1992 refers to a presidential election year.
This is a midterm.
Now, let me go.
So point number one, the obstruction in the final year of a presidency in a presidential
election year on a nomination is a rule that has been
put forth by Republicans and Democrats and advocated for publicly by Joe Biden. Number two,
this is a midterm. There isn't a recent precedent for obstructing a presidential nominee in a
midterm election. None. Matter of fact, Joe. Yeah. Elena Kagan, Barack Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court,
now a Supreme Court Associate Justice on the
Supreme Court,
was nominated, Joe, in May of
2010 and confirmed
in August of 2010, right
before a
midterm.
Oh!
How does that work out for you?
You have no argument here, folks. There's no Oh, how does that work out for you?
You have no argument here, folks.
There's no precedent for this.
And McConnell obstructed during election year.
Presidential election year.
The midterms, they confirmed your nominee.
Elena Kagan, she's sitting on the Supreme Court now.
Confirmed in August of 2010.
There was a midterm there.
Did you forget that?
Finally, another argument here.
Now getting into the obstruction during presidential years.
They'll say, well,
you know, Kennedy,
Kennedy was confirmed
during an election year.
The Kennedy, folks, listen.
Kennedy's, the opening was,
the opening happened in June of 1987. It wasn't during an election year. That opening was filled by Robert Bork.
Bork, who was borked by the Democrats in the Senate, was then stopped. And then eventually
we wound up with Kennedy a year later. The opening didn't happen during the presidential
election year.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
None of the Democrats' arguments, this is what infuriates me, Joe,
arguing with liberals, is they constantly, constantly make stuff up.
They do this all the time.
They lie, they exaggerate, they engage in hyperbole,
they can never ever tell you the truth.
Well, Kennedy was confirmed in an election year the opening
didn't happen then the opening happened in 1987 the reason they got to kennedy was because the
democrats shredded the reputation of robert bork that's why the opening was the supreme court with
the seat was open for almost two years this is it's just ridiculous what they're up. I mean, they get away with so
much. Now, before I get to who my choice is on this, and I hope you'll hear me out.
Ladies and gentlemen, voter intensity right now is critical. I hope you understand this.
The Democrats are going to be paying attention to the polls. This was a catastrophe for the
Democrats. And there is a great, great piece in the Washington Examiner I'll have in the show notes today at
Bongino.com. Again, if you subscribe to my email list, I will send you these articles. I try to
find the best ones. But there's a great piece about how devastating this is to Democrats right now.
Why? Because there are a number of red state Senate Democrats running for reelection who are in a world of electoral hurt right now, folks.
Joe Manchin, Joe Donnelly.
I'm down here in Florida.
Bill Nelson, I'm convinced, is going to lose this race to Rick Scott for the U.S. Senate.
Bill Nelson's an incumbent.
That would be a flip in a swing state.
Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota is in big trouble.
What did I say?
Donnelly in Indiana.
Claire McCaskill in Missouri.
There is a
darn good chance, Joseph,
that not only are the
Republicans not going to lose the Senate,
there's a really good
chance that the Republicans are going to
significantly gain seats. Well, what does that mean?
Now that Harry Reid,
former
Democrat Senate Majority Leader, now now that harry reed former dennis does excuse me democrat senate majority leader
now that he has uh left the senate and nuked the filibuster rule before he left that required 60
votes in the senate harry yep harry reed was the one who nuked that he's like yeah we're gonna go
nuclear option thanks harry harry harry shift Thanks, Harry. Hey, you get it.
Wink at a nut.
Shifty!
Yo, shifty!
Thanks to Harry Reid, they nuked the filibuster on lower court judges, which was then doubled
down on by McConnell for Supreme Court picks.
Now they only need 51.
They have 51 right now, the Republicans.
The problem is you can never,
ever count on Republican senators like Susan Collins, Joe, because they're not really
Republicans. Susan Collins is effectively a Democrat. She's pretty useless on most things.
So there's a good chance you'll lose Susan Collins. Now, also that the Doug Jones Alabama
seat's big trouble too. They have a Democrat in a seat that was Republican.
Here's what I'm trying to tell you.
Polls about voter intensity, you've seen them, Joe.
Like, how excited are you to vote?
And you'll say, well, Democrats have a 10-point voter intensity lead on Republicans.
The Democrats are going to pay attention to this.
Now that the Supreme Court has opened up, you have a twofold effect.
You have a twofer here.
now that the Supreme Court has opened up, you have a twofold effect. You have a twofer here.
This is going to be, and David French has a really good piece in National Review about this, and it's in the show notes today. Please read it, about how a large swath, Joe,
of the Republican Party that may have sat on the sidelines in the midterms is motivated by
the issue, the issue to them, which is the Supreme Court, that will now get off the sidelines in the midterms is motivated by the issue, the issue to them, which is
the Supreme Court that will now get off the sidelines and vote.
If that closes that voter intensity gap and Democrats start seeing polls, Republican voter
intensity is equal to Democrats, if not higher at some point, what happens?
Democrats now who were previously not on board, Joe, walk through the tactics here.
They're going to say to themselves,
you know what?
We better vote on this now.
We better vote on this now
because if we lose the election,
we have absolutely no chance.
Let's say we vote this person down, right?
And then Trump doubles down
and nominates an even more conservative person
after the election.
We're going to have no leeway at all.
This is important. The politics matter. you get what i'm saying i did not think of that yeah right now they're like okay mitch mcconnell has already gone out publicly and said we are going
to schedule a vote this is important before the election the democrats know they have a little
bit of sway here because if they can get one Republican to fold and the Democrats hold together, they have a chance of scuttling the nomination.
The problem, Joe, the problem.
If they scuttle the nomination and they see voter intensity polls, those voter intensity polls, Republicans are fired up, they're going to show up.
And those voter intensity polls start to flip on blue state, excuse me, red state Senate Democrats.
And they think they're going to lose those seats.
You don't think the Democrats are going to be like, boy, are we in a lot of trouble?
We scuttled this nomination.
Look who we're going to get next time.
I say they'll flip you.
Flip you for real.
They'll flip you.
They'll flip you for real.
It's true.
It'll be the dipsy-do flip-a-rooski, as I say all the time.
Yeah.
The dipsy-do flip-a-roo have you will have won the battle and lost the war wow we scuttled that guy yeah after
november you're gonna get a nominee twice as conservative if it's even possible and by the
way you're gonna have no leeway because the republicans could have 56 senators at that point. Yeah. And not only that, Joe, scuttling
the nominee will
absolutely decimate the electoral
chances of Manchin, Donnelly,
Nelson, and everyone else because Republicans
will show up en masse now
realizing that these red state
Senate Democrats are nothing but Democrats.
In other words, they're not blue dogs. They're
just Dems. Do you understand
where I'm going with this, folks?
This is big, big trouble for them.
The Democrats are in a panic.
Read the David French piece.
It's very good.
It talks about the tactics I'm talking about right now.
How voters right now, everything's Manichaean right now.
Everything's good versus evil.
And this is it people see in in voters eyes they see the supreme
court as basically this is this fight between good and evil these are this isn't marginal
politics anymore folks this is the ability to hold on to your religion to hold on to your money
to practice your faith to keep your land to keep your gun rights you know these fights that's why
the supreme court is the issue for so many Republican voters. This is going to activate many of them to
get out there and go do what they need to do. Okay. Having said that, let me get to my pick.
I know some of you may disagree and that's fine.
Ladies and gentlemen, I think Senator Mike Lee from Utah is the perfect choice here.
Gentlemen, I think Senator Mike Lee from Utah is the perfect choice here.
Listen, I get it.
Some of you, because I get your emails and I see your tweets.
I read them.
I pride myself on audience feedback.
I get it.
Some of you, he was not a big supporter of President Trump, and I understand that.
But I'm telling you, if you can just hear out as as a friend uh and i mean it i i've always considered this show the reason it's so conversational and not structured in a way you
hear traditional talk radio is because we wanted to do something different and i've always wanted
to be open about my personal life and everything else to you all and i feel it's important you're
gonna invest your time in me i'm gonna invest my time in. I don't know a lot of people personally up on Capitol Hill,
senators or congressmen. That's for a reason. I do know a lot of staff folks, but
it's for a reason. I try to stay out of it because I feel like it taints the show. And
it's another reason I choose to do the show from Florida and I don't have a studio in DC
or anything like that. I want to stay out of the political bubble
because when you let personal relationships
impact your decision-making,
you start to do things, I believe,
that corrupt your voice with the audience.
Having said that, though,
Mike Lee is one of the few guys I know,
that I know personally.
And I'm telling you with absolute certainty,
he is one of the only people I trust up on Capitol Hill.
He has been there for me
when there was absolutely nothing in it for him.
Now this is, listen to me, make no mistake,
this is not some kind of bizarre quid pro quo at all.
Oh, what, so he did something for you?
No, no, that's not it.
He did something for me
precisely because he didn't know me,
but he understood my principles.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
When I ran for office,
went in there and espoused
the constitutional view of government
in a blue state,
when I ran for office
for Congress and the Senate
in a blue state
and ran on the Second Amendment
and a pro-life agenda,
Mike Lee, with nothing in it for him at all, what do I need to do
to help you? Nothing. He didn't know me.
I've heard
him. I sat in his office. They have
these really nice offices in the Senate,
by the way. They're small, but
they're nice. And I sat there
and it was one of the most difficult
interviews I've ever engaged in in my life. Keep in mind,
I never met the man before. He'd
sit in there with a staffer. He was pretty intimidating.
This is when I was running for Senate.
And he hit me with
questions I had never
heard, but thankfully understood
where he was going. Issues
about the Commerce Clause. Questions
nobody else was bright enough to ask me.
Folks, I know
things about this guy. Good things. Incredible things he's done that he doesn't really
advertise himself he is a constitutionalist um a full-time constitutionalist that's the term i've
been using lately not a part-timer he is solid on things like overreach with nsa spying he's
incredible on second amendment self-protection rights, the right to life. I
can't say enough about him. I understand
some of you may have reservations during the
primary, what happened to the presidency. I understand
that. I'm just telling you that, Joe,
you've been involved in politics a long time
at the radio station. You've probably seen a thousand candidates
come in and out of there. Can you not agree
with me, especially based on what's going on with
Redmer and McDonough? There's like crazy
things happen in primaries.
Oh, big time, yeah. Crazy things.
People, I've been
through them. I've lived through them.
The nuttiest things happen in primaries.
People
say things and do things based on principle
and sometimes it's taken the wrong
folks, please, I'm asking
you to discount that. This is a
good man. You will have a 40-year justice on the Supreme Court who is with us on everything.
He is a full-time constitutionalist.
That's my pitch.
I can't say enough about him personally, about him professionally, about his loyalty and fidelity to the Constitution,
to limited government. I cannot say enough. If my endorsement means anything to anybody out there
in my listening audience, I give a full-throated 100% endorsement, Mike Lee, for the Supreme Court.
I don't know if it's going to make a difference. And I get it. The Democrats are going to play a
lot of, oh, what, another white guy? Listen, we don't play that game. This is about the Constitution.
The Constitution does not have a color. That's for the Democrats. I know the Republicans,
we do character stuff. They do identity politics. But I'm saying, I know the Democrats,
and there's going to be some Republicans who sadly play that game too. That's nonsense.
That's nonsense. That's nonsense.
He is the best choice right now.
All right.
Moving on.
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I got a lot of other stuff to get to.
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at the uh up on the hill rod rosenstein and Christopher Wray are up there, FBI director and the deputy attorney general up on the Hill testifying. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a talk up on the Hill of issuing a, basically a motion against Rosenstein for noncompliance, which is...
What's that mean?
for noncompliance, which is... What's that mean?
Nothing.
This is why I don't want to spend a lot of time on this,
but it's important I get you the news.
It's nothing, Joe.
You're right.
I can see you in the camera, your frustration here.
You're like, who cares?
Is something going to be done?
Are we going to impeach this guy or what?
Folks, you know my operating theory
on this entire Mueller probe
and everything that's been going on.
The Mueller probe is a cover-up for the
Clinton Foundation and the Clinton misdeeds.
That's it.
Whether you look at the investigation into Victor
Pinchuk by the Mueller team and
their ties to Trump, which are loose, but their
ties to the Clintons, which are heavy.
You look at the Eric Prince audio
we played the other day. This is obviously,
in my opinion, the Mueller probe, a
cover-up for DOJ
FBI misdeeds with regards to the Clintons and Clinton misdeeds too. Who's the perfect guy to
cover all this up? Rod Rosenstein and Rob Mueller. Why? Ladies and gentlemen, Rosenstein is going to
be a witness in this case. He signed one of the FISA warrants. Do you understand? I mean,
are you getting what I'm telling you here? Rod Rosenstein himself signed one of the FISA warrants. Do you understand? I mean, are you getting what I'm telling you here? Rod Rosenstein himself
signed one of the Pfizer warrants to spy
on the Trump team. Rod Rosenstein
fired Jim Comey,
wrote the letter. Rod
Rosenstein, Joe, was the
United States Attorney in Maryland. I worked
for him in the Secret Service Office in Baltimore.
On the
predicate to the Uranium One case,
the 10X case, where the informant to the uranium one case, the 10 X case where the informant
talked about the Russians giving money to the Iranians to support an Iranian nuclear
program.
Ladies and gentlemen, Rod Rosenstein is knee deep in all of this.
He is, again, the perfect guy to be running the DOJ right now to cover all this nonsense
up.
Why do you think he's not?
Why do you think that?
Why do you think he's not complying with the documents he's not complying with the documents as we saw
yesterday too with peter stroke's testimony up on the hill where he said basically nothing
because they don't want to tell you that there was a political spying operation against donald trump
the muller probe is an effort to cover up misdeeds by the department of justice and the central
intelligence agency into that operation while simultaneously scrapping anything that looks into the Clintons
and anything that looks into the DOJ and FBI's misconduct.
Rosenstein's the perfect guy.
Again, he's implicated in Spygate.
He signed the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump team.
One of them.
The Jim Comey firing, which the Democrats are claiming
is obstruction of justice
and went Donald Trump impeached over.
The Jim Comey firing.
Rod Rosenstein signed that.
The Uranium One case.
The precursor.
The 10X case,
where the informant actually said
that the same people involved
in this Russia deal
were financing the Iranian nuclear operation
and helping them.
The informant who was silenced and given a gag order.
Who was the U.S. attorney in that?
Rod Rosenstein.
He's the perfect guy.
It's clear as day what they're hiding and why they won't fess up.
We'll see what happens in this testimony today.
I'm expecting more garbage, more obstruction.
It's really, I got it on split screen right now,
but this noncompliance thing, I get it.
I understand a lot of this is process-oriented, folks,
but I can sense Joe's frustration of mine.
Just impeach this guy.
Please, just impeach the guy.
Here's the thing.
Forget the deadlines are over.
The deadlines are over.
Just say we're taking up the impeachment by Monday.
That's it. You turn over the documents right now. You have the documents or the impeachment
happens next week. Yeah. Period. Full stop. Thank you. All right. So I read an interesting
piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning by Dan Henninger. Very, very good piece.
He talks about, I keep
telling you this, how the gift of Donald Trump, ladies and gentlemen, and I say this with a pure
heart, the gift of Trump in his presidency has been, Joe, the guy genuinely does not care about
the media response like past Republicans did. I don't want to say he doesn't care in a universal term. I mean
it, and he doesn't care relative to the way prior Republicans have. Folks, as a congressman, Joe and
I, you know, both know, and someone told me once he said something during the Cromnibus bill, the
disastrous Cromnibus budget bill years ago, and he made the point that, you know, Republicans in the Congress
are basically terrified of the media. The media dictates the Republican response by saying, oh,
these Republicans are going to be accused of what, throwing grandma off the cliff or starving
government or starving kids. And all of a sudden, what do the Republicans do? They fold. Donald
Trump rarely cares about this kind of stuff. He not only that, he doubles down. He goes after the
media. He you know, it was it was goes after the media he you know it was it was
said in the past you know never attack people who buy ink by the barrel trump doesn't care about any
of that trump does his own thing he has reset the narrative and it has it's driving the media wild
so dan henninger is a quote from a piece today talking about how republicans actually let me set
it up before I read it
because this will make more sense
if I do it kind of in reverse.
You know, I like talking about psychological principles.
I was a grad student in psychology.
I know nobody cares who cares.
I don't care either.
I'm just trying to, I don't know.
I don't even know why I'm telling you that,
but because that's where I read this, I guess,
is, you know, trust me, I'm not trying to impress you.
A lot of you are a lot smarter than I am, all right?
But I did enjoy psychology in school and that's why I stayed around and did a master's degree in it because
I really was fascinated by the topic. And one of the things you learn about in behavioral learning,
behavioral psychology is this concept of learned helplessness, Seligman. You can look it up.
Learned helplessness is a fascinating kind of psychological area of study.
And the core of it is this.
If you were to, say, chain a dog, and I know this sounds sick, but this was kind of the basis of the research.
Chain a dog to a pad that gives them an electric shock, right?
And you shock the dog.
They try to get away.
They try to get away.
They try to get away.
But if they're chained and they can't get off, say, a shock pad, this is really – there was some really bizarre research in the dog. They try to get away. They try to get away. They try to get away. But if they're chained and they can't get off, say, a shock pad, this is really, there
was some really bizarre research in the past, but it speaks to something larger.
Joe, after a while, what happens when you can't get away is the dog learns to be helpless.
It's called learn helplessness.
You shock them and they don't even move after a while.
It takes a while.
Sick, disturbing, but you learn to be helped. It's like sometimes
I've read stories about, I've always been fascinated with adoption for a number of reasons,
personal and moral. And I'll read about adoption and Russian adoption and how it works. And
I'll get into that another day. But one of the things you read about a lot of these overseas
orphanages that don't have a lot of money and facilities is the kids just learn to stop crying.
It's sad.
I mean, I'm not trying to depress you on a Thursday, folks.
Is it Thursday?
It is, right?
Yeah.
I'm not trying to depress you at all.
But you go into these orphanages and one of the eeriest sounds in the world is the complete utter silence.
You have infants and they don't cry.
They just stop crying because nobody responds to them. It's really awful. That's learned helpless. They just
learn to be helpless after a while. The dog doesn't even try to move after 30, 40, 50 shocks
and they can't get away because of the chain. This is real. I think Republicans and conservatives
have almost, and I don't mean this as an insult to us. I'm roping myself in with this group as well.
We've almost learned to be helpless.
And there's a reason with the media that is, and the media attacks, and the racist calls, and the xenophobic calls, and the you don't like women call, and all this other stuff, all the other nonsense they call.
We've learned to be helpless because what's happened?
We've tried to get away from the electric shock.
And what happened, Joe?
We've tried to get away from the electric shock.
And what happened, Joe?
We have been sold out by leaders, Republican leaders in our party who have advocacy platforms, who have media time.
They're talking heads on cable.
They're elected leaders.
And we're like, we're ready to charge.
We're like, yes, liberty, freedom. Let's go.
Let's go to the polls.
And all of a sudden, the media turns around and attacks them and goes, that's racist. And the Republicans and we're charging the battlefield. And what happens? The Republicans with the biggest platforms of voice go, hey, we really apologize for that. It may have sounded a little racist. This is our fault. We're going to dial that back. We're going to take that money and we're going to spend not only what we're going to spend, we're going to spend now 10 times more everybody's charging about a field goes oh you try to get off the electric pad the shock pad and you're
you're chained to it and that chain has been republican leadership refusing to take the fight
to the media while we're charging the field we're charging off the shock pad and what holds us back
republicans with a platform who have no spine, who have taught us
to be helpless. Why have we been taught to be helpless? Because they're the ones that are not
leading the charge and we don't have the platforms to fight back. That's changed now. I thought about
this this morning with Donald Trump. It has changed incredibly now. For those of you who are
behavior learning folks, Seligman's concept of learned helplessness was
accepted as fact for eons that if you rip you know if you if you don't allow them to escape
they will eventually learn to be helpless until someone came along later on and showed that there
is a way to overcome this when you later even after multiple rounds of this, where the dog tries to stop trying to get
away, if you show them a path out and they see it and they can get loose from the chain and you show
them the path, eventually they will take it. If you give them some kind of example on how to escape
and how to get out of there, they will escape again. This has been the gift of Trump. He doesn't
play into the learned. We're going to learn to be
helpless. We're going to learn to fail. We're going to respond. We're going to wait for the
media to respond. He doesn't do that. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. He constantly beats them at
their own game every time. It doesn't matter what it is. The tax cuts. The tax cuts are a perfect example of this.
Every Republican in the past, anytime they've proposed a tax cut bill,
that puts money in your pockets, right?
It's your money.
The media has gone on a full-bore attack about how this was for the rich and income inequality.
And Republicans, you'll hear them almost apologize.
No, this isn't for the rich.
Trump's like, I don't care if rich people get it too.
It's their money.
And the media doesn't know what to do.
And all of a sudden, Republicans,
who had learned to be helpless in the past,
would start apologizing.
Oh, rich people, they shouldn't get it either.
Because that's what I'm supposed to say.
Because the media said so.
I'm like, no, no.
So what?
They're job creators.
They're going to get money back too.
Yeah, so what?
What's your problem?
All of a sudden, you're charging the battlefield with a guy who is in the lead and taking the
charge.
I noticed it last night when I was watching his speech in North Dakota for Kevin Cramer
running against Heidi Heitkamp, who I think is finished.
I don't think she has any chance of reelection.
Cramer gave a great speech, by the way.
But you see Trump out there,
he just takes it to the media
over and over and over again.
He's given people who had learned
to be helpless in the past,
he'd showed them that path,
that button, that trap door,
whatever it is,
that way out of the chain
where now they can get off
this media shock pad all the time.
Here's the quote from Henninger.
The quote from Henninger, I had to set it up that way because it's about the response.
This is important.
I know some of you hate when I say that.
I'm sorry.
It's just, I really, you know, again, I really, this matters to me and I want to make sure
the bullet points of the show hit home.
this matters to me and I want to make sure the bullet points of the show hit home
the Henninger quote
is about the response this has generated
to the media and the left
because they're the same thing
Joe that is used to shocking the Republican
dog and not allowing them to get
away
the fact that the Republican dog
can get off the shock pad now is driving
them crazy because they're not
used to this what do they do when the dogs lose now is driving them crazy because they're not used to this.
What do they do when the dogs lose? What is he going to bite us? They don't know what to do
because they've never done it. So from the Henninger piece, psychologists will study for
years how a candidate, now a president, whose substantive threat to quote our democracy consists of mainly unprecedented boorishness drove normally temperate people into a frenzy.
This is an important quote.
Let me just sum up for you what he's saying there.
That you may not like Donald Trump's style.
You may not like his tweets.
You may not like his off the cuff remarks.
You may not like his his particularly confront-cuff remarks you may not like his his particularly
confrontational speeches which i i enjoy i think we needed that yeah me too but heading
headinger's point in the journal piece is that there's nothing particularly new about his platform
joe deregulation you know eliminating government red tape tax cuts there's really been i mean there's no
the contrary to the left's hysterical fascist nazi nonsense which is utterly absurd trump's
done nothing but limit the power of government intervene in your life that's not exactly how
fascism works joe not how it works pro folks. Fascism doesn't work by eliminating government
power. I don't know if you know that,
liberals or college kids. That's not
exactly the way fascism
works.
Trump has taken less money
from your pockets
to give to him and his government. That's what
the tax cuts were. He has
eliminated a lot of regulations
where the government can come to your door and tell you what to do with your business and land.
Not exactly fascist, folks, by any reasonable metric.
I don't know what you're talking about. And therefore, the media has lost their minds with this over the top response based on nothing but, as Henninger said, Trump's basically boorishness.
That they're responding to a guy who finally has come back and gone on the counterattack
and they don't know what to do.
So what is their avenue when the dog is off the shock pad?
Their avenue is, the dogs are fascists!
They don't have anything else.
They don't know what to do.
The dog has figured out how to get off the chain.
We're not helpless anymore.
This has been the gift of Trump.
He has exposed the media game.
He has exposed the Republican weak response to the media game.
Backtrack, stay on the shock pad.
Just take your shocks and they'll give us food once in a while.
Don't you? I know we can't get off. The shock hurts a little your shocks and they'll give us food once in a while. Don't you?
I know we can't get off.
The shock hurts a little bit, but they'll give us food so it's all okay.
Trump's like, nah, I'm going to try to get out of here.
Thanks.
And I'm going to show everybody else the way out too.
This is not insignificant, folks.
This is a major sea change in politics.
And if we can get this guy elected for four more years after this term,
folks, we have the chance to nominate four Supreme Court justices. Forget about two.
Remember, Breyer and Ginsburg are in their 80s. Donald Trump could appoint four conservatives
to the court. Four conservatives, full-time constitutionalists to the court. A generational
shift in politics that would be. All right, I got a couple more things I want to the court. A generational shift in politics, that would be.
All right, I've got a couple more things I want to get to.
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Another thing about Trump.
A great article by Dan Horowitz, who I'm going to try to get on
NRA TV today, my show. We'll see what happens with that. It's still early. But he has a really,
really solid piece at Conservative Review today about the Trump effect elsewhere. Now,
what I was talking about before is this learned helplessness and the psychology of Donald Trump,
and especially his impact on Republican voters, and how he can change things and has changed things by his impact and taking it
taking the fight taking the fight to the media while the media is taking the fight to them
whereas the response in the past has been the media speaks up the media accuses of something
you back down immediately the democrats win but this is. Horowitz has a piece up about the primaries and it's not all, you know,
pro-Trump, rosy stuff, but it's a good piece and it's worth reading. And it talks about how Trump
is a game changer, a game changer in primaries. Now, having run myself, I think this is one of
the benefits of doing conservative commentary. I've got to tell you, this is not a knock on any other host out there.
Please don't take it the wrong way.
But it's certainly not me toot my own horn.
But when you run for office, Joe, especially a legitimate run in competitive races, and you've raised money, and you've knocked on doors, and you've seen how the political process, the lobbying process works.
It's pretty disturbing in many respects, but it gives you a pretty unique insight
into how politics works.
By the way, congrats to Nino Mangione, too,
who won his primary for a House delegate spot
in Baltimore, WCBM guy.
He just ran.
My friend Brian Chisholm ran one, too.
But it gives you a very unique insight
into a very disgusting process in many respects.
There's a problem with primaries on the Republican side.
Ladies and gentlemen,
we don't think or act collectively as Republicans. We don't. The very essence of individualism and liberty is the idea that I am my own sovereign. My body and my mind is my temple, and all I ask
is that you leave me and my family alone, and I will leave you alone. It is the very essence of
liberty. God has granted me and my family rights. My right to help or not help others is my right. But that's
ultimately going to be judged by a higher power, not by the government. That my liberty is mine
and mine alone. But there's a downside to that when it comes to tactics.
Listen, I'm obviously a liberty advocate, but please understand where I'm going with this.
I've seen this.
I've seen this over and over, especially being a member of a lot of conservative groups.
It is like herding cats.
It's the worst.
They're all individuals.
They all have very powerful, strong personalities.
They're not snowflakes.
They all have an idea of how to get a problem solved.
And given that they all have disparate ideas on how to solve that problem,
it's very rare to get some kind of collective agenda.
I've seen it a million times.
Here's what we should do.
No, here's what we should do.
Democrats largely don't think like that.
The whole idea of socialism and collectivism is operating as a collective unit. Democrats are very, very good, whether it's moveon.org, these crazy anti-gun groups or
whatever they are, Media Matters. They are. I don't like what they do, but they're very good
at acting collectively. We are not. What's the problem with that? The problem with that is in
primaries. Getting conservatives elected over establishment swamp rats in primaries is very,
very difficult on the Republican side because it's hard for people to act collectively in numbers
high enough to get them to the polls to get conservatives in there when they don't have the money or funding.
Horowitz compares and contrasts this, Joe. I can see you're interested in this,
Armacost, but it contrasts this, which is an excellent point, with the Democrats'
relative success recently, especially the race up in New York, New York 14, where a 28-year-old upstart with no experience in running for office at all,
Ocasio-Cortez, beat one of the most powerful members of the Democrat House of Representatives in Joe Crowley. And his point is that Democrats can do this because this new socialist atmosphere
and the Bernie effect, it's a lurch towards collectivism all they need to do is get a
little bernie tweet and a little bernie energy and all of a sudden the collectivist socialists
win because that's how they think it's a hive mind mentality republicans really don't think
like that they they're not that's not and i mean that as a compliment i'm telling you i've been in
these groups folks now the democrats are having an easier time overcoming the name ID disadvantage.
Now, let me give you my experience.
Here's the problem with primaries if we're not collective when we're thinking individually.
When you think individually like Republicans do and you're running in a primary like I did,
what problem does that create for me as a candidate if I'm a conservative trying to overcome an establishment guy?
I have to reach each one of you individually.
How the heck am I going to do that?
Oh, money.
Yeah, you're darn right.
Money.
Money's hard to, it's a, it's a unvirtuous circle.
You can't get money without name ID, but you can't get name ID without money.
I used to have a, my friend of mine this guy Brian, ran for governor once in Maryland.
And I said to him once,
he was running against a wealth,
Joe, you know Bob Ehrlich.
Remember the Brian Murphy Ehrlich thing?
That was like a big thing in Maryland at the time.
Bob Ehrlich was a former governor.
And I said to Brian once,
I said, Brian, you know,
you'll arrive when you arrive
and then you'll know you arrived.
And he was looking at me like,
what the heck does that mean?
And I was like, I don't know.
That's the point.
That's how it happens.
You just don't know.
Like one day a media company gives you an interview and it goes viral.
And I don't know.
But you'll know it when it happens.
And then you'll be able to raise money.
This is the problem on the Republican side.
They're all individual thinkers.
You have to reach them individually.
You can't knock on enough doors
to win an election with no money on the republican side and the democrat side people think collectively
they're collectivists they hear from their collectivist socialist friends and bernie vote
for this vote for ocasio-cortez okay great republicans don't do they want to do their
own homework they all have to be reached individually, and that is super expensive.
If you can go to a stadium for free,
which essentially a Bernie Sanders endorsement
or someone like that is,
go to a stadium and scream out to 100,000 people
at the same time,
I'm your candidate and here's why.
You just saved yourself a lot of energy.
But if you had to go in the parking lot
and talk to 100,000 people individually
like Republicans have to do, that costs a whole lot of time and energy.
I did it, folks.
I ran my last race, my last race ever, down here in Florida when I ran for Congress.
I ran against Francis Rooney, who's in Congress now, who is, I can't even describe how wealthy he is.
He's got more money than,
I think he's wealthier than Trump. It was a quick three-month primary because Kurt Clausen,
who was the incumbent, said he wasn't going to run again. And he said it like right before the election, the primary. So we only had three months. I thought, you know, I'm always self-deprecating
when I feel like it'll help you. I thought, all right, with'm always self-deprecating when I feel like it'll help you.
I thought, all right, with the exposure I've had in talk radio and Fox and elsewhere and a relatively popular show at the time, I thought, I can pull this off.
I did not understand the mechanics of the Republican primary like I thought I did.
Florida, I mean, I understood the problem, but I didn't understand the damage it was going to do. Florida has very early voting.
They have voting by mail. A lot of older voters who tend to show up in large numbers,
they still read their mail. Young kids start writing a garbage show. You and I know that.
They get the mail. I do it too. You get mail, it goes right in the recycle bin. 99% of the mail I
get. Older folks don't do that. They grew up on the mail system
as a means of communication.
They still read the mail.
So if you have the money
to send out an expensive,
big, huge postcard type mail
or about how great you are in the mail
every single day for three months,
I can't knock on enough doors
or run enough Twitter promotions
to overcome that.
Fox and all that other stuff and all that reputation
you have from talk radio is not going to mean anything.
I lost bad. We got
smoked. I was stunned.
I'm glad it happened. Now it's given me a bigger
platform. But that is
how establishment guys
win on the Republican side.
Whereas Democrats who think collectively,
socialists says, socialists do, vote
Ocasio-Cortez.
Okay, Republicans don't do that.
This is where Trump is the great equalizer.
An endorsement from Donald Trump has become a strategic tactical weapon.
An endorsement from Trump is now a huge deal.
We've seen it with Dan Donovan.
We've seen it, what he did to Mark
Sanford. Sanford's now out. Katie Harrington won that race. I hope she's doing better, by the way.
She's in a car accident down in South Carolina. Henry McMaster in South Carolina in the governor's
race. These Trump endorsements can be a strategic weapon to hurt you or a strategic weapon to help.
A Trump endorsement on Twitter right now is the gold standard in a Republican primary.
As Trump feels his way through the political process, folks, remember, he's new to this.
His first elected office was the presidency of the United States. As he feels his way through
this, he has an opportunity in Republican primaries to start to seek out qualified
conservative candidates who don't have the
money to go in the parking lot and talk to our time, to talk to 100,000 people.
Trump is the guy on the field with the 100,000 people in the stadium.
Yeah.
And when Trump gets on that microphone in front of those 100,000 people and says,
vote Joe Armacost for
county council in Anne Arundel County.
It's over. I'm a shoo-in.
You're a shoo-in.
Trump has the
power right now to do this.
And I'm glad he's starting to
take that on with some of these candidates
and start to
use that influence. I hope he
doubles down on it and does this more
and more and picks these conservatives, because if he does this, he has the ability to get
establishment people out over the course, hopefully, of his next six years in office,
which we hope, and he gets reelected. And to not only, ladies and gentlemen,
this is why I was going down this road. Read the Harwich piece. It's very good on this.
Not only change the Supreme
Court. Think about this. Smile today. He not only has the power to change the Supreme Court
with potentially four justices by the time he's done, if he's reelected, he has the power to get
actual conservatives in the House of Representatives, a force, a freedom caucus,
it's the entire Republican caucus. He has the power to change the Senate.
This would be a generational change back to liberty.
Your money, your healthcare, your kids' education, deregulation.
Put a smile on your face today.
This is all good news, but it requires him to really take that Twitter game to the next level.
These rallies he's doing are powerful too because they entirely
circumvent the mainstream media.
It's an important piece,
folks. I strongly encourage you to read it.
Alright, final story of the day.
Just kind of a take on
yesterday's story because it's so important. The Janus
ruling.
Now, I said to you yesterday,
I got very few emails
on this in the negative, by the way,
which I was surprised because I was expecting a lot of union folks to come back.
And a couple of guys, and I appreciate your emails.
Like I said, I appreciate thoughtful commentary that does not align with my thoughts.
This is not one of those shows where you say something on email back to me.
Unless you act like a jerk.
Some people, unfortunately, decide to do that.
So my kid reads that.
That's why I get offended sometimes.
But the Janus ruling yesterday about public unions and agency fees.
You now cannot be forced to join a public union.
You cannot be forced to pay that agency fee.
This is going to be devastating.
Now, proving my
point yesterday that this was all about filling democrat coffers and politics which it was
yeah the response has been fascinating today the the democrat politicians who came out and and and
were screaming and yelling about this janice ruling yesterday again you can't be forced to
join a public sector union now and pay into their coffers if you don't want to. Joe, what's their argument? Their argument, they're coming straight out with
it. This is going to hurt the Democrat party forever. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Time out. Time out. I thought you told us this wasn't about politics. This was about collective
bargaining, rights of the worker. That's what you told us before the ruling did you miss that the whole democrat argument into the janice court case at the supreme court was that
this had nothing to do with politics this was about union officials bargaining for working
conditions for union workers this didn't have anything to do with politics and it was about
the fact that they were going to get free riders. In other words, they were going to lobby on behalf of people who would then, if they were given the choice, would refuse to pay into the union.
And they would, in fact, free ride on the benefits union advocates would get for them.
That was their whole argument.
It had nothing to do with politics.
But that's not what the Democrats said yesterday.
That is not what they
said the democrats came out almost in mass and made the point that this was going to hurt the
democrat party this was going to hurt democrat priorities why why is union bargaining what does
that have anything to do with the democrat party the answer is the nexus is the campaign donations that's the problem that's the beef that uh janice the guy who
sued and republicans have had for years that this is not in fact about workers this is about workers
money going into democrat covers now i get it a lot of you say well the money can't be spent on
politics money's fungible folks it's like when planned parenthood makes the case that federal money can't be used on abortion it goes into the clinic if you if you fund a planned parenthood
clinic money's fungible to the tune of a million dollars a year they can give away the abortions
for free it doesn't matter all they need is the money what you say it's for is almost irrelevant
the problem with the unions is they were going to fund unions
whose very existence
in the public sector
is antithetical
to the conservative cause.
By the way,
the lobbying,
not the government work.
Government work is,
you know, of course,
we need our military,
but they're not unionized.
But you get the point.
No one's saying
there shouldn't be
any government employees.
Do you get the point I'm trying to make?
The lobbying by government unions for increased salaries is a political statement in and of itself.
Because it's a public sector union.
Who pays the public sector, Joe?
You!
It's a tax argument.
Guys, ladies, there's no arguing that it is by its nature an argument on taxes if you're a public sector union and i don't
want to finance it because i don't believe in arguing for higher raises because it's a tax
argument and you make me do it you are taking away my right to free speech and freedom to assemble
with people I choose.
The Democrats proved that yesterday.
Oh, the damage to the Democrat Party.
I thought it wasn't about the Democrat Party.
Eh, it is.
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