The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 758 The Liberal Rage Campaign Continues
Episode Date: July 9, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the futile liberal rage campaign against Trump. I also discuss the Left’s new strategy to derail Trump’s Supreme Court pick. Finally I address the superiority of... free markets over socialism.  News Picks: Mueller will not present any evidence of collusion in the Manafort trial despite being appointed to investigate collusion.  Why is Paul Manafort in solitary confinement?  Wisconsin was a dry run for the Democrats.  The Left never stopped being nasty.  Liberals are trying to tie Mueller’s probe to the Supreme Court pick.  More millionaires flee California after their tax hike.  Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today i'm hanging
in there babe you ready to go yeah another early monday morning up for fox and friends this morning
you know live tv is uh is great because here's the way it works, folks. For some of you who don't
know, you know, you get the
they'll give you a general idea of, hey, here's what we're going to
talk about and stuff like that. And
so you go on the, you know, you go on the air
with the, you know, Joe in the radio. It's probably
the same way. A general idea of,
hey, we're going to talk about whatever. McConnell,
Supreme Court, whatever it may be.
And then there's breaking news.
You know, a great breaking
news this morning. Matter of fact, they rescued the seventh and eighth child from that cave in
Thailand. And you're like, all right, let's talk about the Thailand cave thing. And you just roll
with it, man. So it was up early. I mean, a great story, just unbelievable heroism. You know,
I was telling the story this morning about when I was and listen this isn't let me just be crystal clear i am not putting my training anywhere
remotely close to that of these av seals not just for context you know when you're on the air i was
using a story about how we were in the secret service and uh we used to train in the helodunker
joe which is this it's uh basically a. It's meant to simulate a helicopter crashing in water and teach, it's supposed to teach
you how to get out of it.
So they put a blindfold on you and they dunk you underwater.
Now keep in mind, Joe, this is in a pool in the middle of the day that's crystal clear
and there's, you know, two or three instructors around and, you know, when you're blindfolded,
you get disoriented.
I mean, put that in context of the heroism of these u.s navy seals and these these other thai navy seals and others over there they're in a it ain't
no pool folks they're in a dark cave uh constricted passageways dealing with kids with no expertise in
this at all so uh god bless him man what unbelievable hero was real quick i have a
background in diving i dove for years and years in the underwater photographer is that right what haven't you done armacost i've won a national
contest to photo shoot i'm amazed amazed at what they're doing it's right incredible oh my gosh and
and to be under this compressed timeline now because the rains are gonna pick up man god
bless god bless them i know the left can't stand it when we say thoughts and prayers. I always get Twitter backlash, but your prayers matter.
Big time.
So, all right.
It's interesting.
We're recording the show now.
I've been up already for about five hours.
You sound like it, too.
You sound like you're wired, dude.
Oh, man.
I'm always wired.
My brain is definitely wired towards a higher level of base level activity.
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I got a lot to get to today.
Big weekend of news.
But story numero uno.
The left changing their story again on the Donald Trump team.
Alleged Russian collusion. X-Files fairytale
case. Folks, the story has changed
five, six, seven times
and now it relates to current news
because as you will see in my show notes today, I have
a CNBC article in there which
is actually pretty interesting. The left's
new talking point, Joe,
about Russian collusion is
stop Donald Trump's Supreme Court
nominee because he's under investigation
for colluding with the Russians
to throw an election.
Oh!
Sorry if it sounds like I'm fade.
Because I'm backing away from the mic
laughing hysterically
because the left has now changed its story
for the umpteenth time.
Trump was under investigation personally.
His team was under investigation.
He wasn't under investigation.
His team wasn't under investigation.
Now they're under investigation again.
You know, why is all this happening?
Because the left are frauds.
Ladies and gentlemen, these are complete frauds.
I want you to understand that I am a conservative because at least we're authentic.
You may not agree with us.
That's fine.
But our positions on things, authentic conservatives, does not change.
Economic liberty, economic freedom, health care liberty, education liberty, a limited state and unlimited individual.
We believe in that.
We don't vary from that at all.
from that at all. The left will say anything, anything to obtain power because the very essence of socialism, democratic socialism, communism, it's all the same thing, despite with their
protestations otherwise. The end goal is control. It's power and political control. The ends justify
the means to them, meaning whatever they have to do, to do lie cheat or steal to get to an ends which is maintaining uh obtaining and maintaining power over your lives that's what
they'll do now i only bring this up because the cnbc article their new focus group tested talking
point is that and i'm quoting here uh there it's a president under investigation for colluding with
a foreign national to interfere with an election should not be allowed to appoint someone to the Supreme Court.
That was liberal Senator Jeff Merkley on the Democrat side.
Now, just what, Joe, a month ago, maybe a month and a half ago, maybe less than that, when it was uncovered that they employed a spy to go and target the Trump team.
When this was uncovered, they ran from the fact that they were investigating the Trump team and said,
no, no, no, we were just, we were investigating the Russians.
So first to make the Trump team appear that they were under investigation before the election,
to tarnish them and tar and feather them, to make them look unelectable, Joe, the Trump team and Trump were under investigation for colluding with the Russians.
After the election, they stuck to that script. When it was uncovered that there was a spy, folks,
this is, listen, don't let any of this go. They're expecting you to forget this. They insisted that
it wasn't the Trump team that was under investigation. They were investigating the
Russians. Joe, cue up. You have that clip of Clapper? In case you think I'm making this up,
this is like the fifth time now we've had to play this cut.
Here is Jim Clapper
actually saying it wasn't the Trump
team. They were investigating the Russians
because they did not want to be involved
in a scandal that involved them spying
on the Trump team. It had nothing to do with spying
on the campaign per se. It was about
the Russians. Wait, what?
That's not what they're telling us
today joe i just quoted you from the cnbc piece no democrat yet shocking joe democrat senator
merkeley a president under investigation for colluding with a foreign national to interfere
with an election what is it so now you were spying on the trump team again? Folks, these people are complete, total, utter frauds. They are liars.
They have not an ounce of spine in them. They are amoebas. They are amoeba-like creatures.
These are inauthentic human beings. They are not genuine. They have no character at all.
The left will change their mind on anything. Now, again, in an effort, because now that the thanks to the media, the hacks in the media covering up the disaster, which I'm not done with, by the way, I'm going, had deployed spy assets to spy on members of the Trump team.
Now that that story has died down in collusion with the media, now they can go back to making Trump try to look bad again by lying and saying he's under investigation for colluding.
This is what they do.
this is what they do.
I wanted to bring that up because this speaks to, again,
what do they call it?
Trump derangement syndrome?
It's just insane.
It's really Trump insanity.
It's not even deranged.
It's pure utter insanity.
The left,
I'm going to get into a little,
I'm going to get into something
in a few minutes here.
I want you to roll with me
because this is really important stuff.
But this is, as I've said repeatedly, this is the gift of Donald Trump.
I'm going to explain something to you right now.
Having run for office, being involved closely with a lot of politicians, understanding how they work, having dealt with this through three election cycles when I ran, and being involved in the activist community, Joe.
And being involved in the activist community, Joe.
One of the things I see about Donald Trump and one of the assets, a tremendous assets, the gift he's been to our movement is his willingness to weather a storm.
We've never seen this before.
The standard Republican approach to elected office has been to trial balloon something, Joe.
Put out, leak a story about what you're intending to do.
We're going to cut taxes on Joe Armacost,
whatever it may be.
You leak it.
You don't put it out as a formal policy.
Wait for the media and Democrat activist group response.
Hear it out.
Feel it out.
Take its blood pressure, right?
If it's overwhelmingly negative and the media echoes the message
and it's really loud
and they can get the public on their side
to a massive gaslighting effort,
telling falsehoods, telling them confidently, telling them over and over again, the Republicans
will retract and move away. Or if it's already been announced, they'll apologize and rescind it.
Trump does not do this, ladies and gentlemen. He doubles down. He hits a brick wall and he
gets a jackhammer and goes right through it. So the left does not know how to respond
because they've never experienced anything like this before.
They're used to the tactical retreat.
And now that they're in a boxing match
where their entire strategy, Joe,
has been around a videotape of a guy,
they've been watching video of their opponent
who always tactically retreats,
and they've been working their footwork
and their attack game around that opponent.
They are entirely unprepared for getting in the ring
and all of a sudden the guy turns into Clubber Lang in Rocky III,
who keeps coming forward and forward.
They're like, wait, wait, what do we do?
They don't know what to do.
So they are responding in almost violation of their own prior tactical norms.
Is this making sense?
Oh, yeah.
And it's leading to complete tactical chaos on the left.
Folks, what they're doing is not helping.
I'm going to elaborate on this in a second.
They are resorting to,
because they're used to this tactical retreat,
they are not accustomed to boxing against a boxer who
now is not retreating, and not
only is not tactically retreating, but is tactically
coming forward. What are they saying?
Boxing, you know, the best defense is a
good offense. When you're punching, the
other guy is thinking about his defense and
not thinking about hitting you.
I love boxing analogies.
You can probably tell. I did it for a long time.
And again, we'll leave the violent stuff to the left. That's their thing. But boxing analogies in terms of competition. Boxing is a sport. It's not a fight. Fights happen in the street. Boxing is a sport.
plan until they get punched in the face in boxing. And it's true. When you all of a sudden you have this tactical plan and it's interrupted by something you didn't expect. You know, what's
the other one? They say the best punch of the world is the one you never saw coming. If you
don't see it coming, you don't know how to respond. Again, this is meant as a sporting analogy, but
it's important because the left doesn't know what to do here. They don't understand. And they're responding with higher, more, more, more elaborate, ridiculous, absurd levels of rhetoric.
Now, Joe pulled this from Dick Durbin this morning. You have that one, Joe? This is a good one. Joe sent this over this morning.
This is Dick Durbin. Again, normally a more tactical. He's a senator from Illinois.inois democrat of course big liberal democrat this is normally
a more tactically reserved and efficient politician i don't mean efficient economically
speaking his policies are disastrous i mean i don't like the guy's policies obviously but he's
normally more tactically sound when it comes to the politics, using focus group tested talking points, moving the public
needle by using these talking points to move the media narrative and to alter the narrative.
This is him using an absolutely ridiculous, absurd analogy because his game before using
more nuanced analogies didn't work. So now they have to up the level of their rhetoric
to absolute absurdity. Hearts and prayers are with those boys in Thailand trapped in the cave. I hope our hearts
and prayers are also with thousands of children, toddlers and infants removed from their parents
by the Trump administration under zero tolerance. They're trapped in a bureaucratic cave, too.
So let's not forget them. Dude, the rob snyder youtube clip that's
you know the the there's multiple ways to say dude you know you get the serial kill around
the corner dude dude you're confused dude you're surprised dude right this is one of those dude
are you crazy are you making an analogy between these boys trapped in this cave in Thailand and Trump's immigration policy?
This is what happens because, folks, please understand what's happening now.
None of this is helping the Democrats. And I'm not here to give them advice because I'll get email saying stop giving advice.
Listen to me. It doesn't matter. They cannot control themselves.
They they are they have lost all their bearings. They are not moored to appear
to a dock anything anymore. They are out in an open ocean of stupidity, wandering around with
no lodestar to guide them back to shore because they don't know how to respond. They have been
trained for 30 years now, if not more, hit the Republicans hard, use the media, accuse them
of the standard talking points. They don't like grandma. They don't like dogs and puppies. They
want, you know, they don't like babies. They don't like single moms. They don't like people who are
black, Hispanic. They don't just use name the list. This is what they do. Republicans have
tactically retreated and they claim victory. This is what they do. Republicans have tactically retreated and
they claim victory. This is the video they were watching on their opponent forever. This is what
they train for. They're not trained for Trump at all. So they're losing their minds. They're
changing their talking points in and out day by day, forgetting we have a conservative media that can, like this show right here,
that can just replay Jim Clapper from a month ago.
Trump team under investigation.
We were after the Russians.
Today, Jeff Merkley.
The Trump team's under investigation.
They don't know what they're doing.
Dick Durbin.
The boy's trapped in a cave.
They're similar, same thing as a bureaucratic cave.
Are you crazy, dude?
Holy cow.
Joe, it's insane. These people are nuts. They're losing as a same thing as a bureaucratic. Are you crazy, dude? Holy cow. It's Joe.
It's insane.
These people are nuts.
They're losing their mind.
I call it the liberal rage campaign.
This is not helping.
But understand this.
This is a movement embedded knee deep in emotion, ladies and gentlemen.
The emotion is that this is all they have.
The left does the far left.
I'm not talking about all Democrats here, but the far left does not have reason.
Reason is not a staple of their movement.
Their movement is emotion.
Reason would be based on a fact and data based analysis of their policies.
A fact and data based analysis of their policies. A fact and data-based analysis of their policies, whether it's inner cities or
states largely run by liberals, would lead to disastrous outcomes. The collapse in San Francisco,
they can't even have conventions there anymore. People are canceling because of people in the
streets doing drugs and there's human waste all over the place.
You go to places like Baltimore, the collapse of the economy because of 50 plus years of far left policies.
So what do they do?
They rely on emotion.
We're about compassion and tolerance.
It's all an emotion. When you rely on emotion and that emotional game doesn't work and you don't have reason to fall back on, you have to up the emotion levels.
That make sense?
So the emotion was a three. It worked in the past.
Now we're going to up it to a four. Now a five.
Now you start getting it to eight or nine.
And now you're in the pure rage category.
They don't have anything else,
ladies and gentlemen. The rage campaign continues.
Now,
I have a great piece
by Daniel Greenfield
from Front Page Mag
about this rage campaign, how this is nothing new by the left.
It's at the show notes today at Bonchino.com.
Again, if you subscribe to my email list, I'll email these to you.
But please check it out.
And I'm going to make a connection here, and I need you to bear with me for a minute.
I want to show you how this is going to backfire badly in their faces here at the left.
All right.
Joe, the rage campaign.
The rage campaign largely relies in what Greenfield refers to as covert support.
You know, it's the left, people who are kind of mainstream left figures,
elected politicians, you know, their ideas are fringe,
but they're not fringe.
You know, you have kind of, but they're not fringe. You
know, you have kind of what they would call like the centrist Democrats, whatever they may be,
even though none of their ideas are centrist, but you get the point. They rely on covert support
for them. In other words, these people aren't called out. They aren't called out by the media.
And when I say that, I mean the rage people, the people stalking McConnell, stalking the DHS
secretary. There was a lady who started verbally accosting Steve Bannon
in a bookstore this weekend. These people are generally not called out by the majority of
mainstream figures in the Democrat Party, which leads to kind of a covert support, a tacit support.
This doesn't happen on the right. If you're on the right and you attack someone, there's nowhere in polite company you'll be accepted. And folks, that's one, I of course agree with that. I don't think we should be obviously violently accosting or harassing anyone.
petition public officials, but harassing people is just not sane. It's not rational. It's just stupid. There's no home on the right for that. Matter of fact, there's a great video this weekend
of these Trump supporters and a couple of folks showed up with some really nasty ideas and the
Trump supporters kicked them right out of there but they get this the left gets this
covert support because they're not called out you saw this in the 60s uh and 70s too and uh
greenfield mentions this in the pc he refers to another piece in political where this is not you
know new the 60s and 70s which you joe lived through you saw this rage campaign as well about
the vietnam war but he brings up a great point. This is a terrific point. This is from a political piece he cites in there about the left's ongoing rage campaign.
Joe, the majority of Americans in the 60s and 70s, towards the end of the war, well, in the 70s and 90s, objected to the Vietnam War.
But this is interesting.
This is fascinating.
Even more Americans opposed the Vietnam War. But this is interesting. This is fascinating. Even more Americans
opposed the Vietnam War protesters,
even though they objected to the war.
This led to a massive backlash.
Remember the Nixon presidency?
You would obviously remember
a lot better than me,
being that I was a small child at the time.
But the Nixon presidency
was based on law and order. That was his thing,
running against this societal chaos. And there was a massive backlash. This is what surprises
me about the left, that they don't see this coming. That they don't understand that
trying to imbue their movement with a sense of aggression, confrontation, violence, chaos,
their movement with a sense of aggression, confrontation, violence, chaos. This is not going to end well for them electorally. They are going to be wiped clean and out of power.
The backlash for people craving some sanity in their lives is going to be significant,
and we've already seen this. This record's already been played. Nixon won in a landslide,
by the way, on a law and order platform from people who are like
alright I again that number
don't forget that number I object to the war
but I object to this too
the opposition using
these tactics to in some cases
aggressively confront other people
this will backfire
now
I want to tie this into a
I got so much to get to the weekends
always like bury me in news I gotta get it all to you I want to tie this into a... I got so much to get to. The weekend's always like bury me in news.
I got to get it all to you.
I want to tie this to a podcast I heard this weekend.
One of my favorites, if you're a regular listener to the show, is Russ Roberts' Econ Talk.
It's a really great podcast.
Yeah, it's what Joe's giving me.
Yeah, it's great.
I love it.
It's such a great show.
It's a once a week show.
It's an hour long.
It's a little wonky at times.
He's a very soft spoken guy. He lives. He lives actually in Maryland, Joe Montgomery County, which is odd because he's a more of a libertarian. I don't know how he survives over there in Montgomery County, but that's so liberal. But it's a really good podcast. He had Arnold Klingon who's been on before and they were talking about what are these things they call? Mounds, like mounds of civilization.
I want to explain this for a second.
You know, he's talking about it.
He's making an anthropology analogy.
How when you do an anthropology dig and you see civilizations that the latest finds are obviously the people who lived closest to your dig.
And as you go deeper and deeper,
you get older and older and older and older.
And he makes this comparison to civil norms that have developed over time,
how civil norms feed on each other
and how society just,
society, let's use the United States as an example,
collectively speaking,
how we learn how to deal with each other
through mounds and mounds of civil norms
that have been handed down over and over like an anthropological dig. And he makes
a really cool point. You know, we love stories. He says, Joe, how do you know when you go to the
food court in the Annapolis Mall or wherever you go, the Rundle Mills Mall, by no Joe's area,
well, he used to live there. How do you know that the napkins are free is there a sign no they've always been free dude but how do you know that i'm serious how do you
know and the fact that you don't know answers my question i know there's no sign did anyone ever
tell you that no no they don't have to the damn napkins are free. Right, right. But this is a great point they make in this podcast, that the civil society, over time,
there are rules that you don't necessarily know who told you.
You may have seen it.
It may be social modeling.
And the great part of the podcast is he talks about the intersection between sociology or
the study of groups of people and economics, which is really the study in many essences of the human utility function,
how we individually act when we require things
and want things, right?
But you may have seen it,
like you may have modeled behavior.
You may have been in the food court one day
and noticed a few people walk up
and took napkins and didn't pay.
But the point is you don't remember.
You just know it's, but the soda's not free, right?
The trays aren't free. The trays are cheap. Why don't you just walk it's but the soda is not free right the trays aren't free the trays
are cheap why don't you just walk out with a tray and because you've never seen anybody do it or you
didn't someone got arrested the point is folks is the podcast explains how these civil norms develop
over time and layer on top of each other and one of the civil norms in the united states to tie it
into this liberal rage campaign and how this will unquestionably backfire on them is the United States is a wealthy prosperous country we have
our problems like anyone else but we've developed norms over time one of those norms is you don't
walk up to a politician in public no matter how much you can't stand them and start screaming
with blood coming from your fangs in his face, spittle going
all over him while recording him and telling him what a loser he is.
I'm sorry.
I have some sincere, as Joe does as well, objections to the policies Democrats have
imparted upon us.
Very sincere objections.
It's hurt my health care.
It's hurt my kids' education.
But I would never in a million years think to walk up to a politician in the middle of the street and start screaming
in his face i'm sorry that's not there's nothing there's nothing remotely uh palliative about that
it's going to help us as a society heal nothing there's there's i i don't understand i i just i don't get what they think they're getting out of
this and once those civil norms disintegrate everything else goes with it that's the problem
ladies and gentlemen i have with this and that's why i think there's going to be such a backlash
at the polls you get where i'm going with this joe yeah man and i can i can feel the backlash
brewing already people are tired of it like you
can't tell me moderate democrats aren't like all right i get it i don't agree with the dhs secretary
over this but now the woman's not even allowed to eat in a restaurant without five or six people
showing up and screaming in her face i mean come on folks give me a break seriously how is this
helping do what the tea party did go out there and organize groups of
people go to the polls and win an election man now i want to give one quick analogy i want to
move on i'm sorry but i was just so fascinated by this podcast and i like to you know i i like
you guys i'm a thinker i like to put together various ideas ideas and spontaneously you know
recombine them into new stuff that I can use on the show.
Well, as soon as you said you don't know why, I knew what you were saying.
Yeah, you don't know why these civil norms.
I knew exactly what you were talking about.
Like the napkins are free.
I was a great analogy.
You use it in a podcast.
Why are napkins free?
I'm like, it's a good question.
Why are napkins free?
Because I saw someone take a napkin.
I have no idea.
But these are just, it's not written in the law anywhere, you know?
You will all make napkins free.
But I'm thinking about this, this is the value, this is also, and I don't mean to get off
track, I'm sorry, but I just want you to free wheel with me a little bit today because this
is really important stuff.
This is what also bothers me about this recent lurch of the left towards socialism.
Because what socialism is, is it disconnects people
from free market interchange and interactions. And it's these interactions among free human
beings, whether economically, Joe, work related, whatever they are, that over time, develop that
archaeological bedrock of society as we know it now, that leads you to know in a food court,
that the napkins are free, but the food isn't.
Without those norms that aren't written in stone anywhere, everybody's running behind
the counter in a food court and stealing the chicken sandwiches from the Chick-fil-A.
I thought this is what we could do.
I didn't know.
Do you understand how the free market, economic liberty, and the dangers of socialism and
the destruction of the free market are the destruction of civil norms as well, because it promotes an individual silo.
The government will do everything for you.
There's no need for economic relationships.
There's no need for contract law.
Nothing.
The government will do and provide everything for you.
There's no need to associate with your neighbor.
If he has a farm, don't worry.
You don't need to negotiate with him to obtain some food for some labor or some trade you may have, whatever clothing you made. There's
no need for that and those interactions because the government will in turn take that food and
redistribute it just like it'll take the clothing you make and give it to other people. There's no
need, Joe, for voluntary interaction. But it's that voluntary interaction over time and generations that has made the United
States this unbelievably prosperous place because we develop over time through hundreds and thousands
and hundreds of thousands of interactions with others, a series of rules and norms that we just
understand that we don't need to be told. Socialist countries don't have that because
there aren't those interactions, not anywhere to the degree that happens at a free market.
There aren't. People are encouraged to stay in silos and suckle off the government for everything.
So you don't have those mounds of civil norms that develop over time,
which gave us such wealth and prosperity. And here's my final example i'm sorry i'm going to move on because it was such a great show one of cling's points he makes in the
podcast is that big societies you know we're very tribal by nature we were used to existing throughout
the course of human history joe in small tribes, where things like collective ideas work.
You know, if you're in a tribe of 10 or 15 people, you know, ideas like, you know, collectivism
and collective labor may work because you can, if your neighbor's not working, you can
see it and be like, hey, buddy, you know what?
You got to get on a farm and put in a few hours.
So one of the lines is, you know we're all uh free market capitalists when it
comes to like the country level but we're all socialists at the family level right the socialist
level because we can control it and as a parent a father you do you want to control some degree of
what your kids do but the point is as society expands and becomes bigger joe socialism and
collective ideas are impossible to implement because I can't keep control of you. There's 300 million Americans.
I have no idea that if I'm paying taxes that you're actually taking the money to put into
your business and then in turn paying taxes yourself into a better collective benefit.
As society expands, it becomes impossible to keep tabs on people, number one.
And number two, but you need, so that's number one right just to be clear the
downside is that society's expands collectively it gets impossible for us to monitor our neighbors
so we don't want to act collectively we want to be like you know what you leave me alone i'll leave
you alone but cling makes the point in the piece and roberts as well that we need society to expand
to be more prosperous because we need specialized laborberts as well that we need society to expand to be more prosperous
because we need specialized labor so in other words joe we need people to be experts in little
things like joe's an expert in this he understands adobe audition and the podcasting and joe's very
specialized in his skill set but if you live in a small tribal society of only 15 people
if joe says hey guys all'm going to do is be an expert
in podcasting, sound engineering,
and Adobe Audition, I got news for you. Everybody's going to
starve because they're going to be like, no, no, Joe,
we need you to farm or we're all going to die.
So do you see the conflict,
Joe? Number one, collectivism
doesn't work in big groups, so big
groups would fail a lot without
civil norms. Copy?
Point number two though is
we need groups to expand we need collective defense we need specialization of labor and
that's only possible when the group is big enough that joe can focus on little things why other
people focus on other little things so we all don't starve to death so there's this constant conflict big groups don't
work but we need to make big groups work we make big groups work by civil norms and mounds of them
over time where we understand we don't need to go to court for every little thing in the united
states we don't need the the food court doesn't take us to court to sue because we took six
napkins these have developed over time through hundreds of thousands and hundreds of millions of interactions collectively between people where they understand things over time.
And we have a limited government and all of this and contract law and we understand it.
And that is the benefit of free markets over socialism.
And I think of this one last example, right?
I'm not going to say the country
but i traveled a lot in the secret service and let's just say it was a country that had just
found some element of capitalism not all it was still largely state controlled but you probably
figure it out all right but i go from one country as a multi-country trip. And I was tired, man, really, like seriously tired. I'm
on the other side of the world. And I come from a robust, generally free market economy on that
side of the world. And I get in the airport and you get online, you board the plane, nothing
happens. I travel to the next country. I'm only there about a week. I will never forget this as
long as I live. They had just kind of started to taste free
markets. They
called the flight number, whatever it was.
Flight 762, ready to board.
Joe, I've never
seen anything like it. No line,
no nothing, mass chaos
in this airport.
No concern
whatsoever for your feelings.
Sir, you just cut me off.
The guy looked at me like I had 10 heads.
Like, that's what we do.
I'm not making this up.
I didn't know what to do because I'm a pretty big dude.
I'm like, I'm 6'1".
Back then I was probably 200.
I'm 231 now.
And I'm like, what am I going to do?
I'm going to attack someone?
So I wound up being the last person aboard the plane because I just refused to cut
anyone off. I folks, I'm not making this up. I think I was, if not the last, I was like the
second to last person. There was no line. It was total chaos. And I kept thinking,
cause I was always fascinated by economics. There it is in the United States. We have,
you know, 50 years plus of flight where people have in a free market, robust economy, flown hundreds of times.
They understand the rules.
They don't need to be told.
Everybody lines up.
You don't cut the guy in front of you.
And the folks in this country, they just had no idea because it was a socialist country with no economy, no interaction, no human interaction.
And the idea was, yes, I'm getting on this plane first.
And if I have to jump in front of you and kneecap your butt,
I'm going to do it. And nobody did anything about it. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. It was complete chaos. It was a sea of humanity moving towards escape.
Man, bro, it was the greatest thing ever. I've learned so much from that experience.
And I've heard from friends who've been back to the country that things have improved markedly.
But again, it's probably because now people there have flown a little bit due to free market interaction,
have figured out the napkin rule that you don't cut people off.
They don't need to be told it anymore.
And order improves and then society grows and people can interact with each other
without having to go to court every single time or having to be arrested or having to be told it.
Oh, man.
See, that's what we do different in the show.
We pull things out of everywhere.
All right.
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shows you why i'm so furious about leftists who you know are so ignorant about the effects of
socialism and the actual damage it does to human beings folks remember people who support socialism
aren't engaged in misfeasance in other words words, misfeasance. Someone falls on the concrete in front of you and
you don't help them up. It's a bad act, but you didn't do anything. But you not doing something
was the problem. The problem with socialists is they're engaged in malfeasance, meaning the person
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socialism is. And that's how it destroys civil norms. And that's also why I have such a beef with this
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Once those civil norms disintegrate and conservatives feel like they can't go out
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country I was talking about where it's complete, total uh let's see what was the second story oh here we go uh i wanted to
just cover quickly also i discussed on friday the bombshell piece by john solomon in the hill
the repercussions of which are still reverberating uh through media, trying to figure out what to make of it.
The Solomon piece in the Hill, which speaks about the FBI's behavior during the Trump investigation, the early stages. There was one particular quote. I know I highlighted on Friday, but I just want to bring it up again because I got a lot of emails on it.
And people are unsure what the CIA thing means. So here's the here's the quote from the piece.
People are unsure what the CI thing means.
So here's the quote from the piece.
Peter Stroke, remember, who is the number two in the counterintelligence division of the FBI and was also the lead investigator on the Hillary case and the Trump case.
He sends an email to the number one in that division, a guy named Bill Price Step.
Price Step is still employed there.
Stroke has been escorted out of the FBI complex last week, but is probably still getting paid.
I'm not sure if he's on administrative leave or not.
Strokes says to Price them,
I suggest we need to exchange our entire lists
as we each have potential derogatory CI info,
the other doesn't.
This is just days after the Trump election.
Now, as I brought up Friday,
I don't want to repeat the show, obviously.
This is critical. Days after the election election. Now, as I brought up Friday, I don't want to repeat the show, obviously. This is critical.
Days after the election of Donald Trump, they're talking about exchanging derogatory information they have with each other.
Now, as I brought up to you then, and I'll bring up to you again now, how many investigations into Donald Trump are there?
Folks, there's another investigation Solomon writes about his piece called Operation Dragon.
How many investigations were going on into Donald Trump?
What are we living in, like a third world republic here or a pseudo republic?
This is important because I had said on Friday and a couple of folks had emailed me.
When he says we we each have potential derogatory
CI info the other doesn't it's clear to me they're talking about separate investigations
or separate investigators exchanging information about Trump team members they want to quote scrub
I believe the CI info is them talking about spies.
Confidential informants.
Now, the reason I'm bringing it up is over the weekend,
because I do read your emails.
I'm sorry I don't get to respond to everyone,
but I do like to read them.
I love your feedback on the show.
A couple of folks, Joe.
Joe is like digging into the microphone.
I can always tell when Joe's interested.
Yeah, I'm into this.
Folks had emailed me,
a lot of them with significant law enforcement experience, and they had said,
Dan, I think they're talking about counterintelligence investigation information, not confidential
informants.
Maybe, folks, maybe.
In other words, why is this critical?
Why does it matter to you?
Friday, I'd said to you, if they're talking about exchanging derogatory information, Joe,
according to their own email, amongst each other, suggesting there are multiple investigators and potentially multiple investigations
working on the Trump team.
And the derogatory information is, quote, CI info.
And that CI stands for confidential informant.
If it does, what does that mean, Joe?
Logically, it means that not only are there multiple investigations there's multiple spies
what now again folks had emailed me and said maybe they mean derogatory counterintelligence
information that's possible certainly possible now one person emailed me you know who you are
i'm not going to mention your name and said well i've seen cis in in emails and bureau paperwork referred to as chs
as confidential human sources um i was not in the fbi i was in the secret service i'm just telling
you on my experience and again i'm not trying to correct anyone or be captain know-it-all you may
be right they may be talking about counterintelligence information and not spies i suggested
to you on the friday show and i'm sticking by my my my uh
breakdown of this my analysis of it but i again i respect yours that that they are cis that they're
talking about confidential informants meaning there were not only there may have been multiple
spies being run at this trump team and the evidence at this point certainly backs that up
based on the account of michael caputo um and and uh Papadopoulos and others who claim that
it wasn't only Stefan Halperin who contacted them, but others as well with a history of
working with the FBI or the CIA.
Folks, this is explosive.
There were multiple spies.
Now, the reason I say that I'm sticking towards CI, meaning confidential informant, not counter
intelligence information, is in my experience, I've informant, not counterintelligence information.
In my experience, I've always heard to them, even the FBI teams I work with, and I worked with a few of them on a couple big cases when I was outside of the New York office in the Secret Service.
They always talked about them as CIs, never anything else. So that's the reason I brought that up, and I appreciate your emails.
Never anything else.
So that's the reason I brought that up.
And I appreciate your emails.
But if we find out later that, again, they were talking about counterintelligence investigation,
it doesn't take the edge off the email, Joe.
It still means there were probably multiple investigators and therefore multiple investigations into the Trump team, which is a hairy enough thing.
But if it means CI and it means confidential informant, it means there were likely multiple
spies as well, which is just beyond disturbing.
So critical stuff.
It's just a phenomenal article.
It's in Friday's show notes.
If you haven't read it yet, please check it out.
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this joe you remember the millionaires tax in maryland yeah so there's a great story in forbes
about how california they did an analysis of the behavior of millionaires in California pre and post the 2012 implementation of a massive millionaire tax in California.
Now, the story means a lot to me because, again, debating with liberals is, as I said in the beginning, is almost always an emotion-based
argument. It's almost never an argument based on reason and facts. Facts should not be disputable.
Facts are facts. That's why they're called facts. I mean, why is this complicated?
If you study the behavior of millionaires, the influx of millionaires, and the outflux of
millionaires from your state, you can make reasonable correlations there's a difference between correlation and causation i
get that but you can make reasonable inferences from their behavior pre and post the tax hike if
you just look at the data so the forbes piece has a really terrific analogy of what happened in 2012, Joe, after California instituted
a new higher tax rate for people who made $500,000 and up. Another basically millionaire's tax in
some respects, although obviously $500,000 is a million, but it was meant to tax wealthy people
in the state. The influx of people who made that kind of money pre-2012 was positive after 2012
the the influx was an outflux it was negative people left now this is that's not groundbreaking
or surprising what is surprising is the left's constant effort to manipulate and change the
narrative on these stories because they don't want to accept the fact that tax behavior on people who are producers in society
does change and alter behavior.
It's also the reason, by the way, the left craves big federal government
in their triage of needs more than big state government.
Why? I mean, think about it. Why?
They hate subsidiarity, rule at the local level. Think about it. It's very simple. Why? I mean, think about it. Why? They hate subsidiarity, rule at the local level.
Think about it.
It's very simple.
Why?
If you left tax rates to the most local level possible, Palm City, Florida, here where I
live, right?
And you don't like the tax rates in Palm City, Florida, which are pretty manageable and good,
right?
You can leave.
You move over to the next town.
When the tax rates are federal, or in the case of globalists, global, there's nowhere
to escape the
government gets your money no matter where you go so the left loves this stuff they don't want the
argument ever to turn to tax rates change behavior and especially relocation and location behavior
they don't want that so every time studies like this come out about liberal states their high
taxes and people leaving they run to the defenses right away. Now, the defense in California is,
well, it's because housing costs are high. Yeah, housing costs are high, by the way,
also because of your liberal zoning policies. But let's not get into that argument.
We saw this in Maryland as well. You see it over and over. And I want to talk about Maryland for
a second here because it's in the Forbes story that's in the show notes today. I encourage you to read.
How Martin O'Malley, big lib governor of Maryland before Larry Hogan, the Republican, got elected over there.
He's up for re-election now.
Martin O'Malley said, we're going to institute this millionaire's tax that's going to take into effect and is going to tax people who make a million dollars or more. They expected revenue, tax revenue from that tax hike, Joe, was about, what, over $100 million, right?
Folks, not only did they not get that $100 million, they lost $100 million.
Because what happened?
By the way, they lost $100 million at the higher tax rate.
by the way they lost 100 million dollars at the higher tax rate so many millionaires a third of them left the state that they what that what they got was less money even at the higher tax rate
that's how many people left the tax rate was higher on the millionaires and so many of them
left they raised 100 million dollars less than before the tax rate went into effect. It was that much of a disaster.
Which meant what?
This is what's so infuriating about liberalism again.
Who had to pick up the tax burden for Maryland's profligate government spending?
The middle class.
The rich paid less, not more.
Guys, ladies, listen to what i'm telling you please i
know this is hard for liberals to understand the wealthy folks you meant to tax to pay their quote
fair share paid less money overall the people who stayed paid more but the pot of funds available
for your redistribution scheme was a hundred million dollars less than if you
had done nothing do you understand the difference between misfeasance and malfeasance it's not just
that they didn't get the money they got before or it was a break-even scheme that would just be
misfeasance it was economic financial malfeasance They told you they were trying to raise more money for their redistribution schemes and social welfare programs.
They destroyed the state's economy by a third of their millionaires, people who were producing jobs and value and tax revenue in the past, leaving.
They raised $100 million less and you got taxed more.
None of this is open for dispute at all
none of this these are facts you can give your opinion on why those people left well it wasn't
the tax rates it was uh they had a heavy snowstorm in saverna park but i don't care what your logic
is what your logic stream is what train of logic you use. Those are opinions. The fact is Maryland
lost money, Maryland lost millionaires, Maryland lost wealth, and Maryland lost wealth creators
after implementing a tax where people left. I don't care what hypothesis you draw up about that.
It is irrelevant to the facts on the ground ground the exact same thing is happening right now in california the exact same thing
and of course californians who are liberal and they're liberal politicians are engaging in the
verbal judo again joe oh well joe this isn't necessarily because of the tax rate it's because
of the housing it's because of i i don't know what it's because there was a shark attack in northern
california they'll make up any reason this is what the left does and you have to be savvy to this and
always when you're debating them bring it back to the facts and the data that are irrefutable
wait i don't want to forget as you can tell i'm kind of wired up today and stoked about today's
show so i don't i'm like i'm like joe sees me i'm like taking notes now because i don't want to
forget this i've been at this a really long time i'm not one-upping anyone you all are very skilled
at this but i've been at this debating with the liberal things a very very long time now
and having grown up in new york and maryland i'm pretty darn good at it i know what they're
going to say before they even finish.
The minute they open their mouths, I know where they're going.
They will always engage in the euphemism verbal judo game where they switch the argument.
They deflect.
They use euphemisms.
Euphemisms like, you know, they're not illegal immigrants.
They are undocumented.
I mean, this is what they do.
They play word games.
On this tax argument, they'll do this all the time.
They'll dance around, but this is critical.
They will get as far away from the facts and data that they can.
That is why on the show, I used to always talk about this until people got annoyed,
so I don't bring it up anymore.
Remember the Reagan tax cuts?
I brought it.
And the fact that there's no Clinton surplus.
I bring these two things up all the time.
I used to on the show and listeners who were regular listeners in the early days got annoyed about it.
It's just funny because it's true.
Even conservatives got annoyed about it.
Bring up to a liberal to show you how far they'll dance away from facts in a word game thing.
The Reagan tax cuts nearly doubled the amount of revenue that came into the federal government.
They will spin this thing six different ways from Sunday.
No, no, no.
It wasn't money.
It was inflation.
No, no.
Actually, after inflation, it was still significantly more money, even if they're adjusting for
inflation and taxes after Reagan cut the tax.
No, it was because of a growing economy.
Dude, you just told me a minute ago tax cuts lead to a decrease in tax
revenue in the economy. I gave you a fact that that's not only not what happened, that tax
revenue nearly doubled. When Reagan came into office, it was $500 billion. When he left office,
it was $900 billion. You still have yet to dispute that fact. All you're doing is doing verbal judo.
Well, it's due to a growing economy. You just said before that tax cuts lead to a decrease in revenue.
I'm telling you the facts say you are lying.
Can you please address that first
before you do your verbal judo game?
The same thing with the Clinton surplus.
The Clinton had a surplus.
He didn't.
There was no surplus.
Just go to the Treasury's own website on it.
I used to put that article.
If you look it up, it's really good.
The Myth of the Clinton Surplus. It's a's a blog post it's years old the guy walks through
absolutely falsifies every liberal argument that clinton ran a surplus everywhere he even has like
a follow-up to it addressing more liberal nonsense and liberals will still insist it
happened because they can't accept the facts and the data the same thing happens with these tax
cuts well california high taxes and a lot of their wealthy people and job producers left still insist it happened because they can't accept the facts and the data. The same thing happens with these tax cuts.
Well, California high taxes and a lot of their wealthy people and job producers left.
Whoa, let me tell you.
Here's why I think that really happened.
Time out.
Did it happen?
That's all I want to know.
Am I telling you the truth?
Because there's a study on it that they did leave.
Yes, it happened.
Okay, thank you.
I'm good. Right, Joe? Moving on. on thank you very much the rest is your opinion the rest is your opinion
you're telling me tax cuts don't affect behavior i'm telling you people behaved a certain way and
you know what that behavior was they evacuated their butts out of california to liberal states
that is indisputable whatever you're gonna say after this is exclusively your opinion
that's it i'm in facts you're in opinion now there's a reason i brought this up
uh it's there's a great piece in the wall street journal it's a subscription only but it's about
ivanka trump and i think it's a james freeman piece it's in the op-ed section today how ivanka
trump gave an interview joe and you know how i can't stand fact checkers
because they're not checking facts it's almost exclusively opinion they're doing and they
disguise it as fact check so donald uh excuse me ivanka trump gives this interview and she's
talking about the expanding economy and she in the interview she states a fact an indisputable
easily fact check joe, Joe, fact.
She says to the interviewer, I think it was Maria Bartiromo, that, hey, the economy's
doing well and two million people have left the food stamp rolls.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is an easily verifiable F-A-C-T, fact.
Any idiot can go to Google or Bing or any search engine and check it that is in fact
true fact check ding ding ding ding ding true okay that's a fact now why do i bring this up
because in the wall street journal piece by freeman he hysterically brings up how the uh
washington post fact checker gives her two Pinocchios for that.
And says because she made some, and to be fair, she had some opinions in there too, Joe,
where she said it may be due to this or due to that.
Now, I think it's obviously due to the growing economy.
But what does the fact checker do?
Instead of checking the fact in there, and the only fact she gave was the 2 million people coming off of the food stamp rolls.
A fact checker is supposed to check the facts.
They're not opinion checkers.
What do they do?
They give her two Pinocchios saying, well, she's giving her opinion about what those reasons may be.
There's a fact in there.
You guys are fact checkers.
You had one job to check facts.
Instead, they give her two Pinocchios
despite the fact that the only fact
she put out in the piece
was in fact a fact and correct.
Don't ever trust these fact checkers.
They are scams.
The Washington Post,
these Pinocchio things,
Snopes, it's a big liberal scam.
It's a joke.
Don't throw these things right
out. Anytime a liberal
opens their mouth, he goes, well, I checked it on
Snopes, or I went to a fact check.
Like, one final point, like
PolitiFact or something, just start laughing
immediately. Go,
PolitiFact, oh, you thought they were fact checkers?
Because they don't check
facts, they check opinions.
That's what they did to
ivanka trump they checked her opinion not the actual fact do you see the scam joe they avoided
the fact and jumped to the opinion in a way to make her out to be a liar if you and if you don't
believe me read the myth of the clinton surplus piece about it you you will be entirely educated
about how there was never a clinton surplus and then read the PolitiFact piece, I think he links to it in there,
that tries to, again, confirm that there was a Clinton surplus,
despite the fact that it is categorically false.
And you'll see why places like PolitiFact are a complete scam.
It's a joke.
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