The Dan Bongino Show - Ep 760 What Liberals Aren't Telling You About Socialism

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

Summary:  In this episode I address troubling new revelations surfacing regarding the scandalous investigation into the Trump team. I also discuss and debunk liberal myths about socialism and address a development in the immigration crisis.   News Picks: Does socialism work in Scandinavia? No.    Did the FBI get bamboozled by a shady information-laundering operation?   An update on the Mike Flynn case.    Are the Democrats going to lose seats in the upcoming midterms?   As I predicted, President Trump’s executive order on immigration is challenged.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved.     Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Dan Bongino Show. Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino. Alright, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Producer Joe, how are you today? Dan-o! Good to go, babe. Too much to talk about. As always, cannot stay ahead of the news cycle. You turn away from the television for five minutes and you're already lost. That's why I like to be first in the morning with my podcast out. All right. Trump, man, the great disruptor. I got some sound of him overseas at the NATO conference.

Man. Yeah, man. Just doing what Trump does. Saying things that should be said, that needed to be said, and finally saying them out loud. Also, another bombshell article by John Solomon about what I've been telling you the entire time. The whole operation against Trump was one big information laundering scheme. It's like money laundering, except with information. A bombshell piece will be in the show notes today.

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Story numero uno. Let me just do this Trump thing quick, because I got a ton of stuff to get to. Joe. Yep. Cue up that audio. This is a basically two minute and 20 second thing. We cut it into two for, you know, because you don't like to play long ones on the show. This is Trump over at the NATO conference at the table, just basically laying the smack down on, hey, listen, we've provided security guarantees to European countries and NATO and the NATO alliance for a very long time. And yet you guys are cutting deals that are not helping. And instead of, you know, sitting there and glad handing each other like politicians have done forever and focus group tested talking points. Here's how Trump handles it. It's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia, where you're supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.

So we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting all of these countries. And then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with Russia, where they're paying billions of dollars into the coffers of Russia. So we're supposed to protect you against Russia, but they're paying billions of dollars to Russia. And I think that's very inappropriate. And the former chancellor of Germany is the head of the pipeline company that's supplying the gas. Ultimately, Germany will have almost 70 percent of their country controlled by Russia with natural gas. So you tell me, is that appropriate?

I mean, I've been complaining about this from the time I got in. It should have never been allowed to have happened. But Germany is totally controlled by Russia. The people at that table are sitting there like, Ma! Oh! The meatloaf! They don't know what to do.

They're waiting for the meatloaf. The faces! They don't know what to do. They have never been talked to like that ever. Listen, I get it, folks. The foreign policy establishment is shrieking in horror right now. Joe, oh, these are our friends. These are our buddies.

We can't talk. They are our friends, okay? We get it. They are allies. That doesn't mean every single decision they make is the right one. Trump, the great disruptor, which I love, comes out and says, hey, I don't get it. This is not how this is going to go down. We're providing these blanket security guarantees against an aggressive now Russia with empire-like desires.

And you guys are going out and cutting a gas line deal with them. What's the deal here? You know what? The second half is kind of the same as the first. So this was scrap. But I just wanted to play that in the beginning to show you that this guy, this is what I told you yesterday. The guy from Queens used to cutting deals in big real estate mega deals in New York City dealing with horrible bureaucracy, powerful unions, people in the mob in some cases in New York trying to shake down your business.

He's not going to take any crap. He goes on the international stage and he's not going to play by the by the, you know, the tried and true rules because they're not they've been tried, but they're certainly not true. So good for him. Yeah, I just want to play because I got that this morning and I'm like, this this is Trump. This is this is this is how this is. This is the gift of Donald Trump. His ability to shake up what we previously thought to be a standard set of diplomatic,

you know, structured rules we were supposed to follow. And by him not following them, maybe he'll shake these people out of their slumber. It's time for them to step up. We're going to defend you. You're going to do the right thing and come back. So that was and you're going to come back and return the favor to us. All right. Bombshell piece this morning that well came out last night by John Solomon. Again, this guy's been doing incredible work over at the Hill. It'll be in the show notes today. The show notes today are terrific. work over at the hill it'll be in the show notes today the show notes today are terrific i'm going to get to socialism in a second my one of my writers at the site matt palumbo did a great piece about scandinavian socialism that i will get to in a minute or so-called socialism solomon's piece joe there is an email that was uncovered this is just it confirms everything we've been saying about the spying operation on Trump, that this was a circle of stupid is complete.

It was a big information laundering operation to launder information through multiple channels, multiple people, multiple entities, the State Department, the FBI, John Brennan, the GCHQ to launder the same garbage information to lend it an air of authenticity. Now, Solomon's piece, Joe, he has an email uncovered by Peter Stroke, where he's sending this email and he says he's trying to read the dossier, the fake information. This is important, folks. The fake information generated by Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS, who were hired by Hillary Clinton, right? They were hired to generate this opposition research on Donald Trump.

The information that they generated, which was nonsense, has never been verified, winds up making its way through multiple channels. Now, Stroke's reading it on BuzzFeed. And he says in an email, our internal system is blocking the site. Talking about BuzzFeed. Stroke wrote of the document posted on BuzzFeed. He goes on. I have the PDF via iPhone, but it's 25.6 megabytes. Comparing now.

Listen to this. Listen to this. This is crazy. The set is only identical to what McCain had. It has differences from what was given to us by Korn and Simpson. Wait, wait, wait, what? So the information you use

from Christopher Steele, this fake dossier that Donald Trump did all this nasty stuff overseas and was cutting deals with the Russians, you now were given to it, it was given to you by multiple people, including McCain, David Korn of far-left Mother Jones, and Christopher Simpson from Fusion GPS. The significance of this, folks, is dramatic.

This may seem like a small thing. It is not. Guys, ladies, please, please understand how critical this is. When you're a federal agent with the power to take away someone's freedom, to take away someone's everything they have, everything they're going to have, put them in jail, confiscate their property, take away their ability to see their kids, take away their job, every single thing they have. This is an awesome power. One of the ways they do that is by getting information on you, making sure it meets a certain standard before that information is presented to a court a fisa court or a federal court or another federal criminal court i should say they're both federal courts a federal criminal court and that information

has to be vetted why it's obvious apparently it's not obvious to liberals it's so we don't go randomly targeting people for no good reason and putting them in jail only to find out later in a court of law that they've been innocent of the charges put before them or not guilty. Which is the official. No, I hate when people say it. He was proven innocent. You're not proven innocent. You're just not guilty. No one's innocent, right?

You're not guilty. There's a procedure for that. there's a there's a procedure for that in the FISA court the foreign intelligence surveillance court which was used to spy on the Trump team the procedure is a little bit different than it is in the criminal courts at the federal level I've explained this to you multiple times but the procedure to vet the information to make sure we're not politically targeting people or targeting people who are not guilty of the crimes you're alleging is called the woods procedure the woods procedure is a step by step who's going to look at this information against joe in other words i have information against joe that he did this this this this and this okay it's passed to this guy first and then it's passed to this guy's sack his special agent in charge

and then it's passed to the headquarters guy and And then it's passed to FBI headquarters managers on top of that. And then the information sent over to the Department of Justice. And the information starts somewhere near the bottom. It's passed up and vetted to a chain of people. This is to ensure in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, where the person alleged to have committed this spying infraction, that's what the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court is for, he does not or she does not have the ability to show up in court and defend themselves, unlike the criminal court system.

Copy, Joe? So this Woods procedure is designed to be an extra layer to make sure, because that person has no ability to defend themselves, that that information damn well better be true before it makes its way to the foreign intelligence surveillance court now if you if you listen to my show that i did on friday i i just i discussed this whole woods procedure and how the one of the final people on the DOJ side to okay the information before it makes its way into the foreign intelligence surveillance court to spy

on them was John Carlin John Carlin was Bob Mueller's old chief of staff John Carlin resigns right around election time in that period and he does it kind of quickly now you know could have just been that it was, you know, saw the writing on the wall and left. But isn't it awfully convenient that the guy brought in to investigate the Trump team and keep the attention on the Trump team and away from the failures of the DOJ and the FBI to properly vet the Trump spying operation, which turned out to be a complete debacle.

Isn't it interesting that Mueller's brought on board to do that, to keep the attention on Trump and keep away from people? By the way, he was involved with. He knows Carlin. Carlin was his chief of staff. Now, this Solomon piece is important, folks, because it shows you how they used one set of nonsensical information, but how they made it appear by laundering that information that the information was credible. It appears what they did is to quote Solomon, they had multiple quote emissaries that brought

this information to the FBI and the information they brought to the FBI, even though it was from the same source, Joe, made it appear that it was authentic and it was genuine because it was coming from so many people. Right, right. David Korn at Mother Jones, Simpson at Fusion GPS,

according to the piece, John McCain's staff. Let me give you an analogy of the real world so you understand how devastating this is. Let's say I'm targeting Joe Armacost right now because I'm running against him for a congressional seat in Maryland, whatever it may be. Joe's my opponent. On the Democrat side, I'm the Republican. If I have connections that can get information to the FBI, I know people, right? I can get a source to make up information about Joe.

Now, if it's just me saying it, it's going to become crystal clear that this was a political attack. And the FBI most likely is not going to put their own butts on the line for this investigation. They're going to discard it and go, hey, we got information that Armacost is an international arms dealer. But it came from Bongino. It was running against them. So, you know, listen, let's take this all with a grain of salt. Get it? But let's say what I do is I then pass the information to Bob, right?

I tell Bob, who knows an FBI agent, hey, go to your FBI agent friend and give this to him. I then pass the information to Tony. I say, hey, you got another FBI agent friend? Go pass this to him too. I then give the information to Sam and I tell Sam to do the exact same thing. All of a sudden, the FBI is getting all these tips about Joe being an international arms dealer. But what's the catch, Joe? It's all from the same person. Right. Now we can confirm this based on this explosive email yesterday that Stroke is actually acknowledging that the information stream, although from the same original source, was coming from multiple emissaries, giving it a patina of authenticity that was never there. Folks, this is important. This is critical. This is why in law enforcement, and if you read the work of Andy McCarthy at National Review, he has hammered this point home repeatedly over and over. This is why in law enforcement, there is no vicarious credibility. a second if i relay information to the fbi but i get the information from bob it's not my information it doesn't matter if i'm a priest a maris brother i went to malloy high school it doesn't matter

if i'm an upstanding member of the community, it is not my information. It's Bob's. Oh, Bob's a local cocaine dealer and a fraudster? In other words, I don't get vicarious credibility because I passed the information and I'm credible. McCarthy's hammered this home over and over. What does this have to do with what I'm telling you now? The FBI, these guys are, these are managers.

These are law enforcement supposed to be professionals. What? They don't understand this? Hey, we got this information from David Corn at Mother Jones. Well, by the way, he's not credible, but let's just say he was. This guy's a political guy. Let's just say he was. Hey a political guy yeah let's just say he was hey we got the information from john mccain well he's credible he's a u.s senator hey we got the information from chris simpson at fusion gps who got it from uh nmi6

former spy christopher steel and we worked with him before he's credible it's not their information. It doesn't matter. There is no vicarious credibility. I can't emphasize to you this point enough. If vicarious credibility was a real thing, all you'd have to do as a political opponent of someone you wanted to take down politically was go find a priest or someone with a sterling reputation somewhere get them to pass the information the fbi and we could open fisa court cases to spy on anyone ladies and gentlemen this was an information laundering operation at the highest levels are we missing this i don't know what that is on account of being dull it's's I mean, did you miss that? Did anybody at the FBI

Joe think to say, hey Dave, Chris, where excuse me, Glenn Simpson, where did you guys all get this? They all got it from the same person. This is so like Mr. Rogers, like, I mean, it's basic like kindergarten level

stuff. How did they miss this? This is a really critical piece. Read it. It's a short piece. It's in the show notes today at the Hill. I want to strongly encourage you to do it. And also, it ties into my, this is the whole purpose of the Mueller probe. To keep this thing, all of these missteps, screw-ups in the DOJ and the

FBI, I believe the Mueller probe, the entire purpose of the Mueller probe now, is to rescue the reputation of the DOJ and FBI. That's it. I know some of you were a little confused last week when I said

his real goal is not to save the reputation of Hillary Clinton. It's to save the DOJ and the FBI. I'm not suggesting to you he's not trying to save the reputation of Hillary Clinton. I don't know that. He may very well be. And based on what I've told you before, I find it awfully odd that Mueller's investigating people with significant ties to the Clinton investigation, but investigating them for loose at best ties to Trump. I think it's to keep them quiet about their ties to Hillary. But I don't believe it's because his first goal is trying to save Hillary.

I believe it's because the Hillary Clinton, Clinton Foundation debacle and these perceived pay for play interactions are so devastating to the DOJ and FBI that allowed it to go on that his primary goal, Joe, is to save the reputation of the DOJ and FBI first. Also, when it came to the Woods procedure and the failure to do even basic vetting of this information. This is unbelievably troubling stuff. All right. It's a busy news day, so I got a lot to get to. I want to move on to just something on Flynn quick, on the Flynn case. And I got another piece in the show notes about that, too. Today's show also brought to you by buddies at BrickHouse Nutrition.

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The Flynn team is, the legal team is pushing to wrap this up. Listen, let's just get this sentencing over. I believe Flynn was, uh, was completely submarine. I mean, this guy was kneecapped.

I, I've never seen a case of, uh, legal law enforcement abuse like this for someone of, of, uh, of that stature in our American military, my lifetime,

the cases of disgrace, a debacle, uh, what they did to Flynn and his reputation is going to be a stain on this country forever. And history will not, I'm assuring you right now, will not judge Bob Mueller kindly for this abomination of justice.

And that's what it was. As you could tell, I'm a little emotional about it, that this guy served the country for as long as he did and was unquestionably targeted by the Mueller probe, despite the evidence of criminality being nil. You know, and I get it that dopey libs are good. Ah, well, he pled guilty. Ah, folks, you would too if bankruptcy was staring you in the face due to legal bills and they were threatening your family with legal action as well. You plead guilty like he had a choice.

Plead guilty. I think the sword of damocles hanging over his head i mean give me a break but there's an interesting note on this i'd like to throw out there flynn's team is pushing for the sentencing to be over with but what's interesting is the muller probe the muller team they're kind of like ah not so fast I got a little bit of a theory on this. I think the Mueller probe's in a world of trouble when it comes to Flynn. And here's why, Joe. Those 302s, which are FBI summary documents

of an interview. If I interview Joe for a crime, whatever, money laundering, international arms dealing, and I'm an FBI agent, I have to write up, type up a summary of that. They're called 302s. There's a, let's say, information stream out there by credible people, some I've heard from, that the investigative summaries of the interview with Mike Flynn, where he had pled guilty to lying to the FBI, despite the fact that the FBI had said, and Jim Comey himself, in congressional testimony, there was no evidence of deception. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. He lied to the FBI. Is there

evidence of deception? No. Wait, come again? Are we not speaking the same language here? Whatever. Because it's just so dumb, this case. It's hard to believe that people don't see this for the abomination of justice. That it is. Now, the 302s. There's some credible reporting out there that the 302s of that interview, Joe, may have been changed. Oh! In other words, let's see, or may have been, if not changed,

In other words, let's see, or may have been, if not changed, let's say there may have been some pressure, external pressure exerted upon the agents that interviewed Mike Flynn to insinuate in those 302s that he may have lied when he didn't. You get where I'm going with this? Yeah. This is important. Yeah. What does this have to do with muller in the sentencing ladies and gentlemen if muller agrees to this sentencing and it happens quickly and flynn is sentenced to whatever i don't know community service let's say he gets god forbid he gets jail time that'd be the biggest disgrace in judicial history but say they throw flynn in the slammer for 30 days and after he serves all his time it comes out

that those 302s were in fact altered or pressure was put on people to lie in those 302s oh my gosh are you gonna wait wait this guy did jail time or was sentenced to a crime he didn't commit I'm thinking the Mueller people may be delaying this for a reason the Mueller people may be like uh what was that was that New York City hold up wait a minute they may be like everybody pump the brakes pump the brakes

of course Joe this generation knows nothing about that because they have ABS anti-lock but remember when we were pump the brakes do not pump the brakes now now you can slam on them if you have an anti-lock braking system. If you don't, you have to pump the brakes. We learned that in Secret Service driving school when I was in there. Pump the brakes, folks.

We got a guy in jail right now. We're serving community service. Why it's simultaneously put out there that the document used to convict him may have been altered or pressure may have been put on those people to alter those documents now i understand the general general flynn's desire to get this over with it has been i mean can you imagine the nightmare his family he's had to sell his home uh this is a cassette it's a stain on american history this has happened to this american patriot i understand it but i'm not so sure the muller folks are telling you the whole story i'm serious folks i think they know that that inspector general report from horowitz may be on to something and that something may be that the documents they're using to get this guy to plead and then to sentence him may not be 100 authentic

oh boy would that be a problem let's tell my wife let's say remember those little goya come a goya oh boy remember that oh boy wait we got a dude in jail right now and it turns out the documents it was pressure to alter them oh Oh, man. Not good, folks. So read the IJ reports in the show notes today. He apparently wants it sped up. Mueller is like, hey, bump those brakes. Listen, I'm not a big fan of Mueller, but he ain't stupid. I think he smells something's up here.

Okay. Let's see. Trump, the disruptor, the information laundering operation, Flynn and the 302s. What are we good at? All right. In an effort to expand the content I'm producing for you, because I really do value my audience, you guys and ladies, so much, I wanted to give you more of a reason to go to the website. So I started doing original content there, and I have a writer, Matt Palumbo, who's also a researcher and co-writer

on the book contract signed oh thank god that's i'll be out all right we're get we're done the book is done so finally um turned out to be a bigger operation we thought but matt puts together some really great stuff and he had said to me the other day you know i listen to your podcast about socialism democratic socialism communism there's no difference between the three folks. They're all just on the same path off the cliff. It doesn't matter. You're jumping off the cliff either way. He said, I'd like to do a piece debunking this nonsense about these Scandinavian countries and democratic socialism. And I said, you know what? That's a terrific idea. Denmark, you know, Norway, Sweden, all these countries that Bernie Sanders and

others constantly cite as evidence of this socialist utopia. He goes, I want to debunk that. It was a great idea because it's something that's meant a lot to me and I've hammered it often, especially when I fill in for Levin. By the way, I'll be in for Mark Levin tonight if you want to listen and call it 877-381-3811 is the Levin number if you want to call it. Yeah, yeah. want to listen and call it 877-381-3811 is the event number if you want to call it yeah yeah so couple takeaways from the piece here it's tight it's going to be at uh it'll be in the show notes it's the first one it's entitled does socialism work in scandinavia part one it's going to be a two-parter it'll be the first story in the show notes subscribe to my email list it'll be there

but uh if if not just go to bongino.com and click on the show notes and you'll see it there. It starts out, he hits three main points. One, he makes the point that they are not, in fact, socialist countries. When you're talking about Denmark, when you're talking about Norway, and you're talking about Sweden, folks, they are not socialist countries in the definition of the word socialism. Socialism is the government control of the means of production now are they on the road to socialism in other words the control mechanism can happen via a number of ways the government come in can come in via hard force and say joe i want to confiscate your business i'm going to own it you are in fact going to work for me yeah

or the government can come in and say joe we're going to tax your business at an extremely high rate. We're going to regulate your business according to these rules. So although we may not technically own your business, you may not have to turn it over to us. We de facto own it. We own it. In fact, we don't, we may not own it. De jure, but we own it.

In fact, because you're working for us and you're following our rules. Now, this is all, this is a control argument. I want to be clear about this, because this is how people screw you up when they talk about, oh, no, we're not talking about socialism. We're talking about democratic socialism. Well, socialism, like anything else, just like freedom, is based on, there's a path. There's like a freedom train. That's the best way to describe it, uh to steal a term from this old california radio host he called i forget his name but he called it the freedom train right if you look at the freedom train in a station and the station and the freedom train station joe is absolute freedom

almost in essence anarchy there's no government there's you're free to do whatever you want yeah good or bad by the way remember freedom some people do great things with it capitalism entrepreneurship some people go out and murder it. Capitalism, entrepreneurship, some people go out and murder other people and kidnap and kill. I mean, that's just a fact. Now, there is no, these are degrees. Now, imagine at one end

you have the freedom train in the freedom station. Absolute freedom, Joe. No government, no nothing, no controls. I think we all realize that's not effective. You know, Federalist 51, right? If men were angels, right, we wouldn't need government. And if there were angels in government, we wouldn't need controls on government either, right? Federalist 51 is great for that. Now, imagine at the other end, as far away, the last stop, as far away from Freedom Station as you can

get on the Freedom Train, you have full-blown communism. Government control of everything. Police state tyranny at its worst. The government owns everything. All the means of production owns the people. There's no voting. There's no nothing.

You speak out of line, they kill you. You work for the government. You refuse to work, they kill you or they torture you or they kidnap your kids or whatever it may be. Yeah, this has happened. There are systems of government around the world that are farther away from the freedom train than others. And there are some like North Korea that are all the way away from the freedom train. The argument we're making and the argument the Democrat socialists are making is the Democratic socialists or so-called Democratic socialists want you to believe that they're really a freedom-based operation that this is for you that's why they

use the word free it's oh we're gonna have free school we're gonna have free health care what they don't tell you is they're actually moving farther away from the freedom station because what they're doing is they're forcing you to work not for yourself but for other people because nothing's free and this is the problem i have with this is this making sense yeah like that they steal the language of the free marketeers to try and make it seem that their system think about it joe the modifier democratic makes it appear like you're actually voting for this. But there is no difference between political and economic freedom. As I said frequently last week, it doesn't matter who you can vote for if whoever you vote for is entitled to take away your stuff, right? Which dictator do we like this week? That's right. Is it dictator A, dictator B, or dictator C? It doesn't matter. They're all dictators.

There is no significant difference between political and economic freedom and vice versa. If you have no economic freedom and you're working for the government, you're taxed and regulated to death, does it really matter who the government is at any given point? No, they have the power to take your stuff. It works either way. The issue with the Scandinavian countries is they want you to believe that this stuff is all free. So there's some debunking that Matt does in this piece, and I want to hit the three highlights about how these countries and their systems, their success or lack thereof, is always due to them either moving more towards freedom or away. In other words, when they become more successful, they move towards the freedom station. When they become less successful, Joe, they moved away from the freedom station. Is this making sense before I start?

Yeah, yeah. Because this requires some gray matter activation that liberals aren't capable of. When Scandinavian countries have been very successful, they've been moving towards the Freedom Station. As they become less successful, they've been moving away from the Freedom Station. He does this via three points. Point number one. Oh, let's see.

What was point? Oh, here we go. Get them higher. Sorry, I had to scroll down. Scandinavia's economic success predates the era of high taxes and big government. Kevin Williamson hits this in one of his books, too, and he's absolutely right. Scandinavia is rich today. But they're rich in spite of their government policies, big government policies, not because of them.

Now, Matt has some great charts on this that I strongly encourage you to look at. There's really easy to read. It's a short piece, by the way. It's not overly wonky. But here's the quote. This is the take home. Remember, your Democrat friends, your liberal friends are going to tell you, oh, you know, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, we need to be more like them. This Democrat socialism system. Look how rich they are. Okay, here's a quote. This is from an economist, Nima Sanandaja, who worked on a book about the myth of Scandinavian socialism, by the way. from 1870 through 1936 sweden was the fastest growing economy in the world but after 1975 when the swedish state began to expand in earnest sweden's economy noticeably slowed

falling from fourth richest in the world to 13th by the mid 90s the charts here are devastating in other words, folks, Sweden is rich not because of big government moving away from the Freedom Train. Freedom is rich because they were in the Freedom Train station and is getting progressively poorer, not poor, but poorer, there's a difference, progressively poorer because they're moving away

from the Freedom Station towards big government control. That is a critical point because the democrats by hijacking the language of freedom they want you to believe that the things happening in the reverse you see the point here by using terms like free free health care free college democratic socialism to um insinuate that there's some kind of politically free system, that they're moving more towards the freedom station. And that's led to this overabundance in these countries and how successful they are and how wonderful they are. That is categorically false. The numbers are crystal clear. The wealth in Sweden was generated while they were generally more of a free market system lodged in the Freedom Train station.

As they moved away, they became progressively poorer, moving down the wealth chart, not up. The charts are clear as day. Matt writes, it's not hard to imagine why big government high taxes have slowed growth. The top tax rate in Denmark is is 60 while sweden's is 56 but unlike america where it's only top earners subjected to the top marginal tax rate the top rate applies to a sizable chunk of workers in denmark and sweden okay point number two this is my favorite point ever again another point williamson makes in his book uh was it the idiot's guide to socialism or something but this is a great one and matt does a really terrific job please read

this piece and send it to all of your friends i get it it's on my website you know i listen folks do what you i'm i mean i can't help it i'm trying to give you guys content i'm not trying to like hijack clicks or anything but this is such a good piece matt did such a great job on it point number two so, point number one, as Scandinavia has grown, its government has become poorer, not richer. The Scandinavian countries. Two, Scandinavians are wealthier

in low-tax America. This is one of my favorite points. Swedes in Sweden are poorer than Swedes in America. Same for Danes and others. People from Scandinavian countries who come to the United States are wealthier than natives from Sweden and Denmark. Here's a great line by the inimitable, incredible, God rest his soul, Milton Friedman.

Matt says, there's something to be said about the Scandinavian work ethic. And it brings to mind an anecdote. A Scandinavian, I love this. A Scandinavian economist once said to the late Milton Friedman, in Scandinavia, we have no poverty. Milton Friedman replied, that's interesting

because in America among Scandinavians, we have no poverty either. Folks, in other words, the Scandinavian wealth, not to mention the fact that it grew under free markets, not big government control where it slowed down, but the Scandinavian wealth is largely attributable not to big government, but to an imbued cultural work ethic in these countries like Denmark and Sweden, where people work really hard. These are really good folks who work really hard. It shouldn't be surprising to anyone, Joe, that this is important, that despite big government policies in Denmark and Sweden,

that people there still work really hard. And that's why poverty, whether in Sweden amongst Swedes or Swedish folks in the United States, is almost non-existent. People worry. Is this complicated, Joe? No. And the point, and if I'm losing you on the distinction here, let me just rephrase this. If I'm losing you on the distinction here, let me just rephrase this. What he's trying to say is, when you put someone with a strong work ethic in a big government, heavy tax, heavy regulatory environment like Sweden, they will generally still succeed because of their work ethic, even though the government is confiscating a large portion of the fruits of their labor by comparing those same people in that country to a place like the

united states where you're generally more economically free it's not a coincidence that swedes in the united states have a higher standard of living and have greater amounts of wealth why joe because they worked hard in both countries and the united states just took less have a higher standard of living and have greater amounts of wealth. Why, Joe? Because they worked hard in both countries and the United States just took less. Is this making sense? This is a perfect comparison. It's a ceteris paribus, right? Keeping other things equal.

When you take the Swedish and the work ethic of people in Denmark and you put it in a country with more economic freedom, they're wealthier than they are in their own countries where the government confiscates large portions of the fruits of their labor. Again, as you move away from the freedom train and take more and more people's money, more and more of their impetus to work, and you impose more regulations upon them, they work less, but they're worth less.

They're not as wealthy. Talk about economically. Their wealth is less, but their work ethic still powers them through the day. That's a terrific point. Here's just another quote from the piece. This is by that economist, Sanandaji again.

Danish Americans today have fully 55% higher living standards than Danes. Similarly, today have fully 55 higher living standards than danes similarly swedish americans have a 53 higher living standard than swedes in sweden that's the point they work hard newsflash you take less of their stuff they'll be wealthier okay point number three despite high personal taxes scandinavia is incredibly business friendly. Now, this just hammers home that point I'm trying to make again, because your democratic socialist friends may say, well, Dan, even though the growth periods where Sweden built

up its wealth were largely under a free market entrepreneurial system, they're still relatively prosperous despite big government. Therefore, big government doesn't really hurt that bad when you think it all through. Folks, there's a reason, not just the Scandinavian work ethic that matters, but Sweden has a corporate tax rate extremely competitive on the world stage. extremely competitive on the world stage. So does Denmark. Denmark taxes corporations at 24.5,

Norway 27, Sweden only 22%. That's only a point above us right now after the Donald Trump Republican tax cuts. In other words, it's not just their work ethic that's powering them through the obstruction of big government confiscating the fruits of their labor. It's the fact that there's a bit of a trade-off here, folks. Although on the personal side, yes, there are very high, nearly confiscatory income tax rates on people's individual income, Joe. The relatively low, I mean, relatively compared to the rest of the world, business

tax rates still make the business environment pretty friendly for you to operate a business in Sweden, even though your personal wealth for you to operate a business in sweden even though your personal wealth is going to take a bit of a hit it is that trade-off that has enabled them despite the freedom train moving away from the freedom station it slowed it down a little bit so it's not you know on this on this uh too too far down the path to rescue uh path you know where you start teetering towards communism and full-blown socialism. It's not the story the liberals are painting.

The mosaic they're putting together for you is not accurate, folks. Big government in Sweden has been an obstruction. They've had to alleviate some of the problems caused by big government heavy taxation by making it more business friendly to keep the growth rate going, even though the growth rate is not what it was before the explosion in big government in 1975. These are irrefutable arguments based on facts and historical data. They're not there. Listen, interpret them all you want, but the facts don't change.

Please read the piece. It's the first story in the show notes today. I can't encourage you enough to take a look at it. It's really important because I only bring it up because this Ocasio Cortez and, you know, the Bernie Sanders revolution and stuff. If we let this information take hold with our impressionable 16 to 24 year olds, they're going to actually believe a system that's led to the torture, death, killing, and starvation of hundreds of millions of people could be effective here in the United States. It's nothing but a propaganda operation.

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Joe, what did I say about the separations at the border, the immigration thing and Trump's executive order a couple of weeks ago? Do you remember the show we did on that where I said to you, listen, I'm not one of these guys where I think Trump's always playing this four dimensional chess game. But there are times I'm absolutely sure that he is just dunking on the left in the media. He's dunking on them. He's dunking. He's pulling a LeBron James on them. He is dunking on their heads left and right. I even said it on Fox last night.

The executive order on separations at the border was unquestionably a dunk on the libs in the media. Let me just give you a little update on what happened and where I was with it to show you that when I predicted this two weeks ago, I was right, as if on cue. I remember. Yeah. The Democrats wanted a political issue to hammer Trump with. They saw that these kids were being separated from their parents who had crossed the border illegally.

By the way, the easiest way to not be separated from your child when crossing the border illegally, Joe, is not to cross the border illegally, which guarantees you will never be separated. Just a note. But the Democrats' talking point, because they love to use children as political pawns, they love it,

was this is a Trump rule. Trump is a cruel and unusual human being. He is purposely ripping these children out of the hands of their parents. This Trump is an awful guy. He did it. He did it. There is no law stopping him here. He made this up.

This is a Trump policy. I told you on the show that was in fact a myth. Right. That's not true. There was a judicial consent decree called the Flores Decree. The Flores Decree said the government cannot hold children in detention for more than roughly a couple weeks.

After that, the children have to be let out. The parents who crossed the border illegally, and in many cases committed a crime if they did it multiple times a potential felony cannot be let out in many cases because we don't know that they're going to return they're in the country illegally matter of fact if you catch them and release them under the prior catch and release a large swath of them never did return which is a de facto open border policy is Is this making sense, Joe? Yeah. The Democrats, this is not a new policy. The Obama administration to, you know, quote, unite children and families who came into

the country illegally would just let the people who crossed the border illegally out. Most of them never returned. In other words, they just walked into the country and did what they wanted to do. Adios. See you later i said that this was this was not a trump era policy now the pressure got to be a bit overwhelming so trump and what again i insist was a four dimensional chess maneuver and again i'm on one of these i don't do golden calf stuff he signs an executive order asking the department of justice to say hey we're going to try to reunite families and we want to challenge this flores consent decree now try to

follow me here what he was doing because it was it was such a slick move i want to like high five the guy he knows when he signs this executive order, hey, we're going to reunite children and families, he knows he can't. You're getting this, right? He knows he has no power as the executive to rewrite the judicial decree. He doesn't. But he signs an executive order asking the DOJ to challenge it,

knowing what? That the libs in the media who insisted for a month that it was Trump who was making this policy up himself, they were now going to have to acknowledge when the inevitable lawsuit came that it wasn't in fact Trump, that this Flores decree existed way before Trump took office. Because why? Someone was going to sue over it. Ding, ding, ding. As if on cue, I have an article by Fox News in the show notes today about what?

A federal judge refusing to change the Flores decree so that families can be detained together. Refusing to change it per Joe the administration's request. Whoa. Wait, what? Okay, let's follow now.

Rewind. Rewind the tape. Get the pencil out. The older folks know that. Younger kids, you have no idea what we're talking about. Democrats talking point. Trump's ripping these kids from their parents' arms. It's his policy. Trump's response. It's not our policy. policy trump's response it's not our policy it's a judicial degree decree saying that these kids have to be let out and therefore we'll put them with some responsible person but the parents can't be let out it's not our fault media you're lying you did this trump okay okay say hello to my little friend this executive order he puts out an executive order asking, basically asking his Department of Justice to ask a judge to challenge this consent decree. The judge comes back per the administration's request. No, no, this law is in effect. This Flores consent decree does in fact exist. Now, as I told you, where's the media on this story?

Of course, nowhere. As I told you, where's the media on this story? Of course, nowhere. But you should be asking your friends, if there was no law before this, and Trump made up this law, ripping kids from their parents, then why is the judge refusing to change the law the media told us didn't exist? How does that happen? Joe, are you tracking me, brother? Oh, yes, I am.

There's no law. Nope. Really? Because a judge just said, as per Donald Trump's administration's request, no, there is a law. It's called the Florida Hitchcock's Consent Decree. Where's the media on this? Where's the chyron on CNN? Trump asks separation law that predated Trump to be changed, and federal judge says no, despite the fact that Democrats told us for a month now that no law exists and Trump made it up.

He won again. I'm telling you, he's dunking on these idiots on every single day now. The polls have turned against the Democrats on immigration. The polls have turned against them just about everywhere because they keep lying and making stuff up in these fake outrage campaigns where this guy in the white house turns around and again just it's not even like it's a dunk from the free throw line like michael jordan used to do he embarrasses these idiots over and over read the fox news story i just want i'm only bringing it up again today despite the heavy news cycle, because I don't want you to think you're wasting your time here.

I told you two weeks ago, go listen to this show. I told you two weeks ago, this was going to happen, that somebody was going to sue, that there was going to be some kind of legal court action. And in the court action, a judge was going to be forced to recognize that yes, a law existed before Donald Trump that says trump has to do this oh boy and today there we go i told you this is one of those nelson months moments trump wins again i got the topics not funny folks i mean i don't mean to joke around but that i'm not i'm really not trying to make light of it.

I'm trying to make light of the stupidity of the liberal media and how Trump just slams them all the time. He beats them at their own game. Did they not think that the lies were going to catch up with them? Were they, were they, were they somehow, they thought they were going to get Trump to cave and what?

Make up a story. He always knew there was a law. It's not, he's not stupid. Okay. Sometimes you have to toot your own horn. Sometimes you do. Sometimes you do.

Mogul. I think that's the Secret Service name. You love that one. Yeah, I do. Of all Joe's favorites. He loves that one. I do. He plays that one all the time. Because you won't do it.

You hate to do that, blow your own horn. Yes, the president telling you, it's okay, Dan. Joe's played that four or five times, which for Joe, we try to switch up the drops because we don't want to bore you with stuff. You know me, when I get obsessed with one, I'll play it all the time. Like the mom wears the meatloaf. I can't play. I'd play that three, four times a show if I could but joe as a good executive producer kind of knows when

i need to wrap it up he knows my tendencies to go over but you love that trump i thought they were great all right two quick news stories you need to hear about before we roll here uh the janice case which was the supreme court case which was devastating to the forced joining of public sector unions through agency fees. I described the case last week. The core of it and the takeaway is this. Public sector unions, you couldn't be forced to join, but you could be forced to pay these what they called agency fees. And those agency fees were meant to make non-members pay for collective bargaining. Now, this guy named Janice sued, and he's like, listen, man, I don't want to pay. I don't want

anything to do with this public sector union. The very essence of a public sector union arguing for higher salaries is forced speech on my behalf. I don't believe government should be spending more money. They won. The case is devastating to public sector unions because they support overwhelmingly Democrat politicians. And the money train was a substantial one and was really a lifeline for Democrat politicians. That has now dried up. Democrats are in a panic. So, like Democrats typically always do, they're trying to pull an end around. Two cases.

There's one in... Sorry. Here we go. I have snakes undermining Janice. That's the note I have. Hawaii is trying to do a public funding bill where basically public taxpayer funds would be used to subsidize these unions. Oh, that sounds great. Taxpayer funds would be used to subsidize these unions.

Oh, that sounds great. Not only now are we paying government employees, but now we're paying for them to collectively bargain for higher tax money salaries, too. That's a great idea, Hawaii. You guys are real gems up there. I'm talking about the government, not the people, of course. And Vermont wants basically a worker reimbursement fund up there. They're both end-arounds to this. And the irony of this is that

this is going to cost more money for the taxpayers that'll generally result in lower government salaries in the long run. This is just, it really, this is the kind of stuff which with Democrats would drive me crazy. You know, we lost on the Obamacare case. I wish we hadn't Joe, but there aren't Republicans out there saying, Hey, listen, screw the government, everybody mass protest and don't get health care, because we generally believe in fidelity to the law, even when it's bad law and try to change it through constitutional processes, even when it's a crap garbage law like Obamacare. This is the Democrats.

They lose in court and they keep going and going and going and going. One more thing. There's a Democrat talking point out there now about trump sabotaging obamacare by these risk adjustment payments ladies and gentlemen obamacare is garbage it is the worst law in the history of humankind it is terrible it is destroying our health care system but there was a lawsuit there's these payments that are being paid from insurance companies that are struggling because they have a bunch of uh folks who are sicker on their plans. These risk adjustment payments are made from those companies to companies that are doing well.

Insurance companies to companies that are struggling. These risk adjustment payments, they lost a court case. There was a lawsuit. And the lawsuit was that the formula they were using, Joe, was unfair. The bottom line is this. Liberals ran out in front of the cameras. This is Trump sabotaging Obamacare. He doesn't want these companies to pay each other pursuant to Obamacare and they're all

going to go out of business. Therefore, the higher premiums are your fault. Listen, for as much as I want Obamacare to go away, that is not true. That is not true. The Trump team went to court and actually defended these payments. I don't agree with them. It's a horrible law. I just want to be crystal clear.

But don't fall into the trap the Democrats make. Facts do matter here. And the payments, by the way, are for past payments. They've already fixed the formula for 2019. I just want you to make sure you understand that Democrats will lie. It's not about me, God forbid, defending Obamacare. It's a disaster. And it's not about the Trump team defending Obamacare either. The point is these payments, while we're stuck with this crap system, the Trump team went to court and said, listen, we got to fix this somehow. There's going to be

mass chaos. The Democrats are trying to make it out like, oh, Trump himself is withholding these payments. It is not true. It is factually incorrect. But again, don't let facts get in the way of a good, dopey liberal argument. All right. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it. Please, if you don't mind, subscribe to the podcast. I know you listen. A lot of you download. I appreciate it. You can subscribe on Spotify, on SoundCloud, iHeart, iTunes helps us a lot. But if you follow or subscribe on there, it helps us move up the charts. I really appreciate it. And please check out the show notes, spread that article around about the myths of Scandinavian socialism and debunk a lot of this nonsense your liberal friends try to propagate. Thanks for tuning in, folks. I really appreciate

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