The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 762 Yesterday’s Bombshell Hearing

Episode Date: July 13, 2018

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The Dan Bongino Show. Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino. Alright, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Big show. Ho! Big show today. Producer Joe, how are you today? You doing alright? Well, Dan, it's a big show today, babe. What can I tell you? Yeah, I was gonna do it last night, but I wanted to wait to hear the analysis because once in a while even though you know i spent all day watching peter stroke the disgraced fbi supervisor involved with the clinton flynn and trump investigation up on the hill which was tedious by the way um watching

this guy it left me with a really bad feeling folks i just um i don't know about you but i felt slimy i felt like i needed to wash my hands with like hibicl about you, but I felt slimy. I felt like I needed to wash my hands with like Hibiclens. You know that Hibiclens? It's like that pink chlorine-based hand wash they use before surgery. Sorry, I swallowed some coffee before the show, so forgive me. I know the noises are horrible, but I'm having a tough time with my voice. I swallowed the coffee down, I think, into my lungs. That is not a digestive tract. Your lungs don't have digestive capabilities.

But I just felt slimy watching this guy. And it reminded me of a couple things. I've got the takeaways, as always. In an hour, I'm going to pack in as much information as possible, and you'll be all caught up, so don't worry. All right. But from a big bird's eye view, did you see any of it, Joe? I'm sure you saw some clips.

I sent you some. I came away feeling like there's something wrong with this guy, to tell you the truth. Yes! Yes! Armacost! Armacost, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, I've worked with bureau guys all the time. A lot.

I'm saying all the time. I've worked with FBIbi guys frequently and ladies i they're a great bunch they are they're very skilled but i've seen a strain at the management level of the federal government not just the fbi by the way i'm not singling them out in the secret service as well right a strain of ego um because the power you have is incredible i've seen it up on the hill in congress too but you know that lord acting quote power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely um in this case is true what i see there is evidence of joe almost um it sounds weird but almost like sociopathic behavior uh The narcissism was glaring.

Yeah, I don't mean it in a Ted Bundy serial killer way. I mean it in that he doesn't seem to understand consequence to his behavior. Yeah. You know what? I couldn't put the words to it. What's the name of the book? Oh, it's one of the best books ever. Scott Peck, who was a, I think think he died scott peck but he was a

harvard trained psychiatrist he wrote some brilliant books um one of his books is called the people of the lie and he talks about the the the definition of people who are evil and we tend to associate that term again with serial killers and the like. That's not what I'm saying. Don't misinterpret that. And you'd be right. Those people are evil, there's no doubt. But he talks about another kind of evil and an evil based almost solely in narcissism.

It's a really tremendous book where he talks about case studies. And he gives you these characteristics of people who fit the definition of evil that you run into every day in their lives. And one of them is everything is framed in terms of the effect on that person because the world only revolves around them. In other words, when they're sorry, they're only sorry that they got caught. You know, when he gives those answers, it's always framed in terms of his patriotism. His patriotism, just come out and say your own patriotism. You screwed the whole country over. The guy struck me as a bit of his patriotism. His patriotism. Just come out and say you're a patriotism. You screwed the whole country over.

The guy struck me as a bit of a sociopath. The looks. The hubris. The unnecessary. Almost in some cases unearned sense of pride with this guy. I mean for a guy who single handedly. Well not single handedly. But being the supervisor on these cases.

Almost single handedly. Screwed up three of the most important investigations of our lifetime. He certainly has a big ego. My goodness. All right, so let's get to the takeaways. First, before we get to that, today's show brought to you by We The People Holsters. We The People Holsters are my favorite holsters out there. They're super comfortable.

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First, sorry for the quality of this one. I had to hunt it down fast and I had so many, so this was, it's not the best. Joe did the best he could, but this is Congressman Louie Gohmert pointing out an obvious character flaw in this guy in his testimony when he claims to be this man of integrity. A big, obvious, glaring character flaw. And Louie Gohmert, congressman from Texas, just absolutely fillets him. There is the disgrace. And it won't be recaptured anytime soon because of the damage you've done to the justice system. And I've talked to FBI agents around the country. You've embarrassed them.

You've embarrassed yourself. And I can't help but wonder when I see you looking there with a little smirk, how many times did you look so innocent into your wife's eyes and lie to her about Lisa? Mr. Chairman, this is outrageous. The credibility of a witness is always an issue. Mr. Chairman, please. Mr. Chairman, this is an intolerable harassment. What's wrong with that? Who needs their medication?

The gentleman controls the time. Take the gloves off. Good for Louie Gohmert gomer yeah going after this guy listen folks we're all sinners but not all of us are sinners in charge of one of the biggest investigations or three of them in the modern history of the united states government good for gomer now i'm not going to spend a lot of time on that because that's more of a personal one gomer went after him and the reason in case you don't understand the history of what was behind that, Agent Stroke, who he is questioning there,

was engaged in an extramarital affair with one of the FBI lawyers. And they were both involved with the investigation of Donald Trump. You're probably familiar with that. But that's why he brought that up. And good for him for taking the gloves off while the liberals, let the liberals celebrate this guy because we're certainly not going to all right not a lot to add on that one other than it was some necessary uh it's time folks the gloves are off all right the democrats are playing hardball they engaged in a non-stop obstruction effort yesterday did

you notice by the way any time any substantive answer came up, Sheila Jackson Lee or someone else, Cicilline, whatever his name is from Rhode Island, a congressman, the two liberals. Every time, Joe, they got close. There was some call for orders, some call to obstruct the proceedings. The Democrats know we're on to something. I'm going to tell you what we're on to. Before we get to that, though, I want to hit another highlight of this. This is Congressman John Ratcliffe. He's actually on Fox now, who I am starting to like more and more every day.

Congressman John Ratcliffe, who is an attorney, hammering Peter Stroke about his fake, feigned red line between his personal beliefs and his professional actions. Now, just to be clear what we're talking about here, Stroke, although we have all his texts saying how much he hates Trump, they can smell Trump supporters, Trump's awful, they're going to blank Trump, they're going to impeach Trump, you can fill in the blank, you know what that means, with his love interest, Lisa Page. Despite all of those texts, he is still insisting there was no bias in the case and it did not filter into his professional behavior. Well, Congressman Ratcliffe finds an interesting little problem with that line of thinking he's trying to propagate there. Of the approximately 50,000 text messages that I've seen with your personal beliefs like F Trump,

stop Trump, impeach Trump. Go ahead and confirm on the record that none of that occurred on an official FBI device or on official FBI time. Go ahead and do that. Sir, no, they did. Many of them did. Oh, they did. OK, so 50,000, sir. So so really, no, I'll give you a chance at the end. So what you really meant to say was that when you said you never crossed that bright, inviolable line, what you meant to say was, except for 50,000 times, except for hundreds of times a day where I went back and forth expressing my personal opinions about effing Trump and stopping Trump and impeaching Trump on official FBI phones, on official FBI time.

Other than that, you never cross that line. I'm sure there are 13,000 FBI agents out there that are beaming with pride at how clearly you've drawn that line. Agent Strucker, you're starting to understand why some folks out there don't believe a word you say and why it's especially troubling that you, of all people, are at the center of the three highest profile investigations in recent times that involve President Trump and that you were in charge of an investigation investigating gathering evidence against Donald Trump a subject that you hated that you wanted to F him to stop him to impeach him and do you see why that might call into question everything you've touched

on all of those investigations chairman i'm done with this witness and i yield back bingo that's exactly what needed to be said ladies and gentlemen the liberal point of view on this as well, you know, strokey after those texts were discovered by Bob Mueller, those texts about impeaching Trump, you know, blank Trump, screw Trump. We hate Trump. Get rid of Trump. All this other stuff. How we're going to stop Trump, how he not only do those on professional work devices in the FBI, his his work, his work based system, folks. do those on professional work devices in the FBI. His work-based system, folks. This guy had already been involved in the three cases. Folks, please hear me out on this one because liberals keep bringing up things that are factually incorrect because they're liars.

That's all they have, okay? All they have is a bedrock of lies to build their house of deception on. Peter Stroke had already been intimately involved in these cases how would you feel joe if we arrested you for a bank robbery you didn't commit and then we said oh by the way the guy who arrested you for the bank robbery you didn't commit and was the agent involved in the prosecution and investigation of you don't worry joe after you were prosecuted we removed him from the case because we found out he had a personal grudge against you and was texting uh one of a woman he was having an affair with oh thanks a lot man yeah thank you right a little bit kind of uh too bad so sad i mean that's all we're supposed to think about this he had already been

involved in these things folks he'd already been involved in the interview of mike flynn in the hillary clinton investigation this was not a low-level FBI agent. He was the number two SES-level senior executive service, the government-benighted class, number two person in the counterintelligence division. He was sending these on his professional device, his FBI device. Now, there's another takeaway from this, and I'm going to get to more of that.

I'm not done with this. Yesterday's hearing takeaway from this. And I'm going to get to more. I'm not done with this. Yesterday's hearing was just staggering in its breath. I sat here all day, like riveted, at the same time disgusted and upset. It's just infuriating, this whole case. It just drives me nuts. It seems like nothing ever gets done. Folks, this guy is a senior level spy catcher in the United States government.

I think his career had spanned 26 years. 26 years. I'm only 43 years old. More than half of my life, this guy has been a spy catcher in the FBI. You would think this man would be exhibiting good tradecraft. Tradecraft. Skills. Right. Skills. Like tradecraft as an outfielder in baseball. You know, you take the crow hop, you learn how to circle the pop-up and get to it so you're facing home plate to throw. Tradecraft. People in the spy catching game display tradecraft as well. What kind of tradecraft, folks, is it for a senior level U S government spy catcher in the most powerful law enforcement agency agency in the world to be sending 50,000 derogatory personal texts with very sensitive information

over an FBI device so that everybody can later on read it and download it. It says to me, not only does this guy have sociopathic tendencies and narcissistic ones, but he's an idiot too. Think about what I'm telling you. This is one of the most high-level spy catchers we have in the U.S. government. He's sending information over an FBI device, folks, about an affair he's having with a colleague. Probably sending some explicit

stuff as well. He's sending this over an FBI device, knowing it can all be used later. He's also sending it on iMessage and other non-encrypted stuff, information that can be used to potentially blackmail the guy. And his take back, Joe, by the way, when asked about that is, listen, I love the United States. I could never be blackmailed. That's not the point. the point is you don't give someone an easy in to do it this isn't hard to figure out folks you don't go overseas um you know and with the secret service on a foreign advance when I was there, whatever, buy hash from a local where you can be blackmailed.

And I go, oh, you know what? I could have been blackmailed, but don't worry. It's not me. I have enough psychological and mental fortitude to resist that. Why did you give him ammo in the first place is the question. This is amateur hour romper room tradecraft. This is amateur hour romper room tradecraft. So takeaway number one,

Gohmert decimates his personal credibility on this. Just destroyed it in that, because the guy clearly had no answer for that based on his personal behavior while involved in the case. Second, John Ratcliffe, that dismantles his Peter Stro Stroke's fake red line, his red line, Joe, I would never cross my personal beliefs

into my professional behavior. He was doing this on his FBI device during work time. That, I throw it out, whatever he told you is false. He was doing this on his professional time. Bingo. That's, all that is nonsense.

Now, here comes the coup de grace. This is, sorry, I'm just trying to figure out how I can express to you the gravity of what happened here. Let me set this up first. We're going to go to Jim Jordan next, who's a really terrific guy, congressman from Ohio. And by the way i apologize the other day again i said chris simpson for the six thousandth time i know it's glenn simpson i appreciate the emails there's just let's just say there was a work colleague i had that was his name so i constantly want to you know it'd be like if i met a guy named bobby armacost i would automatically have to call him joe you know so that's why I kept... So forgive me.

Old habits die hard, my friend. Oh my gosh, do they ever. I know it's Glenn Simpson. So the big takeaway from this case, the Spygate debacle, has always been, folks, how did the case start? If you're a regular listener to the show,

you understand that. We have no coherent, longitudinal story that makes sense back to a point zero about how this case started. As I've tried to frame it in terms of what I call paragraph one. When you are a federal agent, you are required to write memoranda on these cases memorandum reports these memorandum reports in the secret service we call them mrs not surprisingly for memorandum reports hey did you write the mr they have paragraph one it's not a formal it's literally paragraph one the first paragraph the first paragraph will always describe to you in that first paragraph how the case started. It's not complicated. A bank fraud investigator called, said he had some stolen credit cards, whatever it may be.

Paragraph one is always easy to decipher. The problem, the consistent problem with the spy case against Trump, whether it was the FISA against Carter Page, the prosecution or investigation of Papadopoulos, people associated with the Trump orbit, has been there is no consistent answer to paragraph one. Nobody can tell you exactly what hard evidence was used to open the case. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a big problem for the very obvious reason. If we started a case with no evidence, then we have a witch hunt. We don't have a case. You don't target a person and build the case later you get evidence and then you target the

person based on the evidence that that person may be guilty of a crime not the other way around makes sense right now forgive me for reiterating that again because i've had to say that over and over but that's why this upcoming uh jim jordan question is so critical. Jim Jordan knows stuff. Yeah. Jimmy J. Jimmy J. He's the opposite of Shifty. Yo.

Yo, Shifty. Jimbo. Jimbo. Jimbo's the opposite. Jimbo's the good. Jimbo's like the anti-Shifty. Anti-Shifty. Jimbo. Jim Jordan. Jimbo's the good. Jimbo's like the anti-shifty, anti-shifty. Jimbo.

Jim Jordan knows stuff, folks. Jim Jordan has read the documents. And it's interesting because at one point during the testimony, Stroke actually says to him, I think you know the answer to this. What am I getting at here? Jordan knows. I'm reasonably confident Jordan knows exactly how this case started. And now we get a huge answer yesterday as to how paragraph one, how the mechanics of paragraph one worked.

In other words, paragraph one in, say, a Secret Service case would say, Paragraph one in, say, a Secret Service case would say, bank investigator Billy Shaw contacted me about some stolen credit cards that were used at a Home Depot in Long Island, right? The mechanics of paragraph one are what? I received a call from Billy Shaw. That's the mechanical portion of that. That's what got the wheels turning, in other words, the call. And then the crime is described in the next sentence. The credit cards. You get it, Joe?

And then the crime is described in the next sentence. The credit cards. You get it, Joe? One of the big questions about paragraph one in this case, Joe, if we can break it down into a twofer, is what was the crime alleged? But how did the information of the alleged crime actually get to the FBI? Because remember, remember, this is why I'm here to decipher this for you. Remember, remember, this is why I'm here to decipher this for you. Devin Nunes gave an interview to Maria Bartiromo about a month and a half ago that we covered on this show where Devin Nunes was crystal clear. Don't forget this, that there was no official intelligence used to start this thing listen to me paragraph one there was no official intelligence used to start this thing this investigation into trump so now we know if we break it down into mechanics and allegations

how the how joe we clear am i explaining this oh yeah do you remember maria's reaction she was maria bartiromo was like wait wait what what you started an investigation of the trump and there's Joe, are we clear? Am I explaining this okay? Oh yeah, do you remember Maria's reaction? She was a dad. Maria Bartiromo was like, wait, wait, what? You started an investigation into Trump and there's not a scintilla of on-the-record official intelligence? Yes, you're right. It's a good point. Maria Bartiromo, a skilled, skilled journalist,

was like, wait, what? So just to be clear, paragraph one, that part is bad enough that the allegations are not even official allegations. They're just like hearsay. But the other critical takeaway as a former federal investigator, I'm telling you that's important, is the actual mechanics. Who did the call? Who called who?

Who told who the allegations? Who said it. That has been a stinging thorn in the caboose of the FBI who will not admit it. Okay, now get to Jordan because Jordan sniffs out a rat here and he starts probing and then I'll explain to you what this means in a second. This is an email you wrote to Lisa Page, Bill Priestap, Jim Baker, Jim Rubicki, and C.C. Dandy McCabe. Subject line is BuzzFeed's about to publish the dossier. You familiar with this email? I am. All right.

It says this. Comparing now, the set is only identical to what McCain had. Parentheses, it has differences from what was given to us by Korn and Simpson. Do you write all that? Congressman, let me answer it this way. First, if I could address the chairman. Over the break, I was authorized by the General Counsel. Hang on a second.

I just want my time stopped if you could. Are you addressing me or the chairman? I'd like to address the chairman. This is all going to come together in an answer. Is there a question you want to direct me? No, it's something I wanted to answer your question from earlier based on something I've been told by the time. This is all going to come together in an answer. Is there a question you want to direct? No, it's something I wanted to answer your question from earlier based on something I've been told by the FBI. I think I'm aware of what the FBI told you and you and I will have another chance to talk about that. But right now, the gentleman from Ohio controls the time.

You wrote this. That was the question. So obviously, do you see the front? Here's the front line So obviously you have it. Do you see the from line? Congressman, I do. It says Peter Strzok. And then it says, too, Lisa Page and a whole bunch of other key people at the FBI. So did you write it? I did write this.

All right. Let me ask you a couple questions about it. It has differences from what was given to us by Korn and Simpson. Who's Korn? Sir, to answer that question, and I would love to answer that question, and every part of me, and you know why I'd want to answer that question, because you have this information. Who's Simpson?

I have been, sir, if I may. I cannot answer that question. You wrote about it. It's now public. Who's Korn? Who's Simpson? Based on direction by the FBI, sir, I am not able to answer questions about ongoing investigative matters.

Oh, man. Oh, if you know, listen, if you're a listener to this show, that is one of the juiciest soundbites in the history of congressional testimony. Listen, if you're not, you probably think there's a couple tidbits in there, but maybe you can't decipher it. If you don't care about the case at all, that's meaningless to you. I'm telling you that that thing is so chock full of information

that it blows the lid off this entire case. Let's break it down piece by piece, okay? Number one, the mechanics of this thing are now starting to come into play. It now appears because Jim Jordan, remember, Jordan knows. Jordan knows. Jordan is a read-in member of Congress who has seen documents you and I have not seen.

Jordan has seen the mechanics. Remember what I'm talking about. Who called the FBI, contacted the FBI? Who? Not what they said yet. We'll get to that in a second. Who actually did it? Paragraph one mechanics.

I'm trying to make this super simple in story format. Paragraph one mechanics are key because it's going to put people's butts in a chair and they're going to say, wait, you took the call and you ran with this based on what? Based on some rumor and innuendo from some anti-Trump hater? You understand, right, why the mechanics are important. Forget the allegations for a minute. The allegations are the dossier, the memo. Trump did that, the sexual escapades. He sold out to the Russians. alley those are all garbage okay forget the allegations for a minute we'll get to that in a second

the mechanics here are key because of accountability if we can find out who decided to hit the send button when they said I need a case open now we can get to the bottom of asking well why the did you do that? This is garbage information. It's not even according to Devin Nunez, official intelligence. This is garbage. What'd you get this information from the, you know, the guy in the seven 11 on the corner, you met in the parking lot. Folks understand how critical this is. Jordan gets it. Jordan's not asking him a question there. Jordan is telling the public what he already knows.

And by the way, Stroke acknowledges Jordan already knows it. He goes, sir, I think you know the answer to this. Jordan says to him, you got this on your email from a reporter? David Korn at Mother Jones? That's not even a serious outlet. Mother Jones is a radical left-wing bunch of wackadoodles. Do you understand what I'm telling you? A left-wing reporter is one of the people

who contacted the FBI. By the way, he doesn't deny it. He has some dispute over the timeline, but Corn does not deny that he contacted the FBI about this information. Mechanics. Mechanics matter. Now, I have here critical takeaway. Ladies and gentlemen, by the way, we're going to scrap some reads today.

Out of respect for you, I loved getting paid as well as the next guy, but this is one of the more important shows I've done in a while. So don't worry. There's not going to be any more commercial breaks. Okay. This is for you. We're going to leave some dough on the table because I have a lot to get to. matter mechanical point number one liberal journalist david corn radical leftist is one of the people who contacted the fbi with that information number two who else contacted the fbi keep in mind david corn joe not official right yeah david corn is not a cia operative he is not an operative for for uh any kind of foreign intelligence enterprise that's a friend of ours. David Corn is a radical leftist fake journalist. Yeah. He's mechanical friction point number one. Point number two, mechanical friction point. Glenn Simpson, a.k.a. Chris Simpson on this show.

Glenn Simpson. Who's Glenn Simpson? Jordan says this. Stroke almost acknowledges it. He's like, I think you know the answer, Mr. Jordan. Of course he knows the answer. Jordan's Glenn Simpson? Jordan says this. Stroke almost acknowledges it. He's like, I think you know the answer, Mr. Jordan. Of course he knows the answer. Jordan's not stupid. Glenn Simpson was an oppo research company that was working for Hillary Clinton. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Come again on this? so mechanical friction point between the fbi and another entity responsible for generating information point number one's a liberal journalist friction point number two

is hillary clinton's oppo researcher oh my gosh yeah i i just uh what what planet is this? You know what, Joe? I know the answer. Don't even... Because I know what's in your head right now. Were you going to say something? No. Oh, okay.

All right. Knowing you like I know you... You don't want to know what's in my head. Yes, I know. I'm afraid. I had a feeling you were going there with it. Because you brought up this planet before. Whenever I've been... So, Brickson Boy... I had a feeling you were going there with it because you brought up this planet before.

So friction point. Yes, now you know what I'm talking about. Because, yes, it's gone off the rails completely here. Friction point number three. There are three friction points between the FBI. Mechanics. Paragraph one mechanics. John McCain.

John McCain. John McCain. McCain's team hates Donald Trump. Trump had taken a shot at him. There was a POW comment. McCain hated Trump. McCain's team couldn't stand him. That's the third friction point between the FBI and the information. Again, it's not official intelligence.

You may say, well, John McCain is an official. John McCain is a politician. No different than Hillary Clinton was running for office. Now, Hillary Clinton wasn't elected. McCain had a position. But they are politicians. McCain is not an intelligence official. He is a politician. He is not a CIA member. Because he has a clearance, him and his team were an intelligence official. He is a politician. He's not a CIA member.

Because he has a clearance, him and his team were not intelligence people. They were not investigators. They had no law enforcement or intelligence duty other than oversight. They're not generators of intelligence. Folks, I'm going to tease you on something in the book,

and I hate to do this because someone will, but given that the manuscript's in and it's written, we're going to print, I'm going to tease you on something. If someone steals it, that's fine, but that's what we were afraid of because my co-author uncovered something. One of the reasons McCain's team got involved is going to become really transparent in the book. And it's not just the fact, and I'm going to take the edge off it. It's not just that McCain didn't like him and McCain's team didn't like Trump. They don't like a lot of people.

There was an actual substantive reason I believe we may have uncovered. actual substantive reason i believe we may have uncovered we put some press reports together and some public statements and there's a actual policy impact that was very sensitive to mccain and it will describe and it will give you i believe what could have been a motive for some of this behavior it wasn't just a personal animus towards trump and by the way i'm not making this up for the sense you know for the sake of just unnecessarily teasing stuff. I don't care. You know, I don't need the money from this book or anything. It's a work of passion more than a work of financial necessity.

But nobody has yet to point to a motive in this case. Now, we know Hillary's motive. Yeah. She wanted to be president. But when it comes to McCain and the British role in this and the foreign intelligence entities, nobody could point, oh, well, they just didn't like Trump. Really? So the United Kingdom and John McCain were willing to risk their entire political careers on getting this guy booted out of office and prosecuted by the FBI all because they didn't like him. They don't like a lot of people.

out of office and prosecuted by the FBI all because they didn't like them? They don't like a lot of people. They don't like a lot of people, but they've never gone that far. There was a reason, folks. There was going to be some kind of a policy change. I'll be able to explain more over time, but it'll make all kinds of sense. Okay, so now the mechanical friction points matter. We know in paragraph one, not only was there no official intelligence, but almost all of the intelligence that came in was at a minimum politically motivated. At a minimum. At a maximum, like I said, it's worse and there may have been other motives that are just as interesting and fascinating. But we know the mechanics of paragraph one are troubling. but we know the mechanics of paragraph one are troubling now this is important someone asked me to put that on a shirt i saw yeah jim jordan yeah hits him up uh peter stroke in that clip again and asked him how many versions of the dossier are there? Oh, oh, this is an interesting point.

And Stroke, Stroke doesn't know what to say. Stroke turns around to the FBI counsel, his personal lawyer. Now, ladies and gentlemen, this is important, but I'm noticing an interesting, interesting, maybe the wrong word, because it may be deliberate. A curious effort by the media to make that question go away and even some conservative outlets that have been all over this case are missing why that question matters joe if there were three versions of the dossier maybe more versions would imply what joe

that they're different yeah different versions different that's what that's essentially what versions mean ladies and gentlemen have we seen the real fbi version of what they were using another version another version of this case how how bad is that third or fourth or sixth version? In other words, we've seen the dossier, so you understand what it is. I don't mean to be repetitive, but I'm assuming all of you know it, and you may not. The Fusion GPS Christopher Steele-generated dossier, which is a Hillary Clinton campaign document, it was paid for by them. It was not paid for by the Republicans.

It was paid for by Hillary Clinton. It is a series of 17 memorandums put together by Christopher Steele. They're memos. They're like letters to self. The dossier contains explosive information that has never been verified. Some of it's just factually false. And it alleges Trump colluded with the Russians. It alleges also something about there's a tape out there of Trump involved in all this nasty behavior.

That stuff has all largely been debunked. And we've been assuming the entire time that that BuzzFeed dossier is in fact the authoritative dossier that the FBI was using. What if it wasn't? Folks, I'm not messing with you. I don't like drama for effect here. messing with you i'm not like doing you know i don't like a drama for effect here but do you understand the ramifications of that if we have been smoked up the entire time that there may be another dossier out there with even more explosive stuff that's most likely garbage another version you can't get that kind of comedy. I love other conservative podcasts, but the mistake is they don't have a sidekick.

You need a sidekick. How do you do this show without a sidekick? Joe makes the show. I'd be lost without him. I even have producer Denise on the NRA TV show doing the same thing. She doesn't even like it half the time. I'm like, I'm sorry. I need a sidekick.

It's my thing. Now, think about this, though, Arm armacost why is this important yeah the dossier we've been assuming is the document the fbi was using to go after trump basing their fisa warrant on the memos i just told you about that the reason we may have been head faked the whole time. Now, this is going to get a little complicated. You may have to listen to this part twice, and I'm sorry, hit the 15 second back button. But the reason I think we may be getting head faked is this. Jim Clapper, Barack Obama's Director of National Intelligence, his right-hand guy, maybe his left-hand guy, Brennan's his right hand guy

clapper's his left thing and needless to say he is in obama's inner circle of intelligence right jim clapper asks comey after the election of donald trump asks comey to go up and brief donald trump on that dossier joe the buzz dossier, the one we've all been assuming is the authoritative dossier. Okay? Clapper asks him to go up there. Comey. Now, this is critical because Clapper's then caught in a, let's call it a mistruth,

to use the DC political kind of verbal judo. Clapper tells people on camera, we've played this clip multiple times, that he had no knowledge of the dossier. He wasn't involved in the dossier. We find out later that he told an investigative committee up on the Hill that he did know about the dossier.

And we find out from Jim Comey that it's Clapper who asked Comey, the FBI director, to go up and brief Trump about the dossier. Mr. Trump, I'm Jim Comey from the FBI. I'm here to tell you about this series of memos that says some really disturbing things about you. Now, Comey leaves out details and only gets to the sexual escapade stuff, leaves out the other stuff, which is in and of itself. I could do a whole show on that.

I believe the essence of that is because he didn't want Trump to worry about the investigation they were conducting into him because trump might have shut it down but that's a whole other story but that's the takeaway that's all you need to know but for the purpose of the head fake here this is important because clapper then insists he had nothing no media contacts about the dossier he tells the house committee excuse me up on the hill he tells the committee up there that he did in fact fact, contact CNN about it, that he spoke with CNN about the dossier. Yeah. CNN, they are fake news, but they don't want to be sued. So CNN could not report on the dossier because it was unverified garbage.

But CNN needed a hook. Matter of fact, it's even this this is even the language used by these guys. CNN needed a hook because they wanted to report about the dossier. Oh my God, look, Trump, there's allegations he's cavorting with the Russians, colluding with the Russians to take down the United States. People in the Obama administration, likely Clapper, let CNN then know about the Comey-Trump briefing on the dossier. And it's the briefing itself which is used as the news hook to report about the dossier.

You get it? Yeah. Oh, we're not reporting on the dossier. We're just reporting on this meeting. But look, here's what this crazy dossier says. Oh, my gosh. You don't want to read this, folks. It's like Ren and Stimpy, but don't push the red button.

Don't read it. Don't push the red button. And poor Ren's like and Stimpy, but don't push the red button. Don't read it. Don't push the red button. And poor Ren's like, I think it was Stimpy pushing the red button. And he got to push it. The whole world explodes. Don't read the dossier that Comey briefed him on. That becomes a story. After that, BuzzFeed runs with the dossier and prints it.

What if the whole time that was the head fake designed to keep attention away from another dossier? Oh boy. You see how that Jim Jordan cut is chock full of just delicious information that if you ding, ding, ding, tap on your skull, you start to investigate these things and hear these things out. Now, we know there are multiple versions. That's not in dispute. I'm telling you, maybe they put out the least ridiculous version, briefed Trump on it, used BuzzFeed and CNN to get it out there as a head fake to distract

investigators from the dossier they actually used, which is even more ridiculous and will make the FBI look even more foolish. Are you picking up what I'm putting down? Because this is a critical, critical point. That both, remember, paragraph one, we are assuming the whole time that the BuzzFeed dossier was the dossier used as the staple of this investigation into Trump. Why do we know that? Because the allegations appear in the FISA warrant against Carter Page. The allegations appear in the Harry Reid letter to John Brennan. In other words, those specific memoranda, the Steele dossier, the information appears over and over in Democrat circles and FBI documents. I'm telling you, what if there's a more ridiculous dossier, one that's even more salacious and insane, that is going to make the FBI look like idiots and that's what they're actually hiding

by leaking to the press the head fake dossier from Steele to get all our attention on that. In other words, we screwed up. We started an investigation on crap information. But if we're going to start an investigation on crap information,

we better leak to the public the least crappy information, Joe. Because if we've going to start an investigation on crap information, we better leak to the public the least crappy information, Joe. Because if we've leaked the real crappy information, we are going to look like a bunch of craftsmen. And by craftsmen, I mean toolboxes. You know what? People like this. Let me give you an analogy to explain what I'm

trying to tell you. Because you've got to get this. I don't like Joe. I want to start an analogy to explain what I'm trying to tell you, because you got to get this. I don't like Joe. I want to start an investigation into Joe. I need fake information, okay? I have three people providing me fake information. The most fake information is also the most damaging. Joe is a space alien from Mars who is engaged with David Duchovny in a plot to infect the human race with the Armacost virus and take over planet Earth.

And I start an FBI investigation into that. Who is the least of your problems? What does it remind me of? Rocky 2 when he spits in the bucket. Is that all you got? and he spits in the bucket. Is that all you got? Ew. Now, I have two other people who have information.

So I started an information based on an absolutely ridiculous... And by the way, I'm doing it only because I want to investigate Joe, not because I actually believe Joe's David Duchovny X-Files plot, okay? Now other people start feeding me information about Joe. And the third person who goes, who's irrelevant? I just want to start an investigation into Joe. I don't care. Now I'm about to get caught. And of the three people, one guy says, Hey, I think Joe robbed the seven 11, two weeks ago. It didn't happen, but it's at least could happen, right? We know the virus X-Files thing is so dumb that if I were to even put it down on paper, I would look like an idiot. Yes. So now later on in the reverse engineering of the crime,

I go, oh, well, listen, I got a tip. Joe may have robbed the seven. Joe, it at least seems believable,

right? Yeah. Well, not if you know, Joe, but I'm, what I'm saying is it's physically possible. There's this Joe,

there is a seven 11. I know where you live. Yeah. There's no UFO involved. Nothing like that. Exactly. You get my point. Why not leak the document about joe robbing the 7-eleven

so nobody pays attention to the x-files david the company story so they don't sit there and go wait are you idiots kidding me you started an investigation into joe because you think he's working with agent molder on a virus to take over planet earth do you understand what I think is happening? This is why the Jim Jordan tidbit is so juicy. How many versions of the dossier were there? Have we even seen the most ridiculous ones? Or are we being head faked the whole time

by Clapper and Comey to pay attention to the least ridiculous of the ridiculous memos? Are there memos out there that are even worse that when they're exposed, now does it make sense why the FBI is hiding this, that when they're exposed are going to make the agent investigators look even dumber than they look now? Now, does it also make sense? Thank you. Now, does it also make sense, thank you, does it also make sense why Stroke in that Jordan thing is juicy?

It's the infinity stone, stones, of this whole thing. Stroke says to him at one point, Jim Jordan, who knows, ladies and gentlemen, Jordan knows. Jimbo, the anti-shifty, he knows. He's not asking a question there, Jordan. He's letting the American people know the debacle he's about to expose. Now, does it make sense why Stroke says to him, there's nothing more I'd like to tell you than to talk? He says that later. And I think in that clip, he kind of hints to it too. There's nothing more I'd like to tell you than to talk. He says that later, and I think in that clip he kind of hints to it too. There's nothing more I'd like to do than to tell you the answer to this question. But the FBI won't let me.

Ladies and gentlemen, I actually believe Stroke here. Why? What's going on? I don't think Stroke was on the receiving end of those mechanical friction points i don't think paragraph one says fbi whatever assistant director whatever he was stroke received those phone calls from corn from mcc, or from Glenn Simpson. Why does that matter? For as much as I think Stroke is an absolute narcissist,

and I think has destroyed the reputation of the management of the FBI in this case. By the way, it's something else I want to regress later. For as much as I believe that, I think Stroke is tired of being dragged here. I think someone else in the FBI received those phone calls and Stroke is itching, itching to tell those congressional committees and that Senate committee who it was. That is what the FBI is hiding here. The FBI is hiding not only that there were multiple versions of this, probably ranging from absurd to ridiculous to outright hysterical, and they're also hiding the personnel who were on the receiving end of those phone calls. They're hiding those personnel because once those personnel are put in the hot seat, they are not going to have any good answer as to why they picked up the phone and entertained

the David Duchovny X-Files virus conspiracy with Joe Armacost. They're not going to have any out, folks. None. Someone is going to say to them, you're a trained FBI counterintelligence spy catcher. You picked up the phone or met with someone about allegations of Donald Trump trying to take over the world through an alien virus and you didn't know it was BS? They're not going to have anything to say.

The Bureau is hiding it. They're hiding the versions and they're hiding the people. And I think in Stroke's rare moment of honesty there, that Stroke is tired of having his name dragged through this whole thing. And remember, it's him because, and it's really been, the highlight's been on him because we have his texts. We don't have the other texts. He is probably tired of it.

And that's why he says to Jordan, by the way, repeatedly, I don't have time to go to all the sound, but you can rewind it and you'll hear his tone. I think he's right. He says repeatedly throughout yesterday's testimony, there is nothing more I would like to do than to tell you how many versions of it and who took them. I think he's right. I'm telling you, I don't think he's lying. I think in his head he's like, screw this. I'm tired of being the only one on the hot seat.

Go get agent Joey Bag of Donuts up here too because he's the one who took the X-Files version of the dossier and wound up starting a case. Hey, Mom! The meatloaf! Okay. That was the most perfectly timed drop in the history of the Dan Bongino Show. I backed away from the mic a second because I'm trying to figure out where to go next

because there's three or four more takeaways here here and I don't want to miss them. And Joe, of course, slips in to meatloaf. I don't know if that's trade. Can someone experience a trademark law? Like if you're a real lawyer, can we put that on a shirt or will the wedding crashers people sue us? Because I will so put that on a mug. I will. That would be funny.

But I don't want to get sued. We don't make enough money on the t-shirts to take that risk, you know? Two more big takeaways. That was good. Now, again, talking about the mechanics. Remember, the mechanics, who called the FBI, who took the call,

the allegations are a separate thing there are two parts to paragraph one of how this case started and paragraph one is the controversy how the case started is the controversy because the allegations for trump russian collusion are not based on anything in paragraph one of any substance at all on the mechanics thing, we now finally, finally have an answer about a name you probably haven't heard here in, gosh, four or five months. One of the questions about the corroboration circle, now we know multiple people contacted the FBI, but we know they needed to corroborate the information or at least attempt to before they walked into the court because they didn't want to be humiliated one of the people in that circle that we've

suspected for a long time and a name that creeped up yesterday was bruce or i heard that yesterday i'm sitting there and my jaw dropped now the drama yesterday when his name creeped up in the hearing, if you saw it, was incredible. And Joe, I'm going to try to pull this one from Monday. I'm sorry, but I had so much sound today. I want to make sure I explain it to you. I'll get the sound by and I'll explain a little bit more, hopefully on the Monday show. All right. But at one point during the hearing, Jordan asks again.

Okay. And remember, he's focusing on the mechanics because Jordan knows the hearing. Jordan asks again. Okay. And remember, he's focusing on the mechanics because Jordan knows the mechanics. He says, listen, who gave it to you? And he says, at one point, did you have any contact with Bruce Orr? Who is Bruce Orr? So, you know, because the drama will make sense. Bruce Orr is a highing official at the Department of Justice. This guy is, he's the man. Ohr is intimately involved in the Department of Justice with a number of high-level matters. Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie, is working at Fusion GPS.

Who's working for Hillary Clinton to go generate fake information on Trump? Track me here, folks. Hillary Clinton hires Fusion GPS. Go get us bad information on Trump. Track me here, folks. Hillary Clinton hires Fusion GPS. Go get us bad information on Trump. Fusion GPS goes and hires the wife of a DOJ official, Nellie Orr, whose husband Bruce works in the DOJ. Now we find out, Chuck Grassley memorandum, by the way, has exposed this, that Orr with the fbi up to 12 times wait what so pathway number two the glenn simpson fusion gps pathway

had a air quotes here independent corroboration track through the oars who were potentially feeding information to the fbi but again it's the same information coming in oh no joe it's all good because now it's coming from the doj and bruce or it's not coming from. Or is it? Is it the same stuff? Ladies and gentlemen, even worse. What if it's not? What if it's not the same stuff, Joe, but it's the same source? In other words, it all goes back to Glenn Simpson simpson fusion gps and christopher steel a company hired to generate information negative information by hillary clinton about donald trump this is

all sourced back to them but what if the information that went through simpson to his to his meetings with, he had denied his meeting with the FBI, by the way. But that's not what the emails say. Strokes' email said they got information from Simpson. So someone's lying. What if the information from McCain and the information from David Korn

is kind of a head fake. And the real dirt passed through the back channel. Oh, that's a conspiracy theory. Is it? Because we now have FBI documented 302s according to the Grassley letter. In other words, summaries of interviews, 12 of them, that the FBI did with Bruce Ohr, whose wife was working at Fusion GPS, who was working for Hillary Clinton. Hey, fellas, I got a really bad series of memos. This stuff, here's the Virus

X-Files, David Duchovny talk. I got a way to get this to the Bureau. Here's the thing. We can't send this through official channels because the information's so stupid that people who have, people who have two functioning brain cells will figure out how politically motivated and ridiculous it is. So I got an idea. Let's bring on this guy's wife, Nellie. She has contacts with Bruce and DOJ. If we have her give it to Bruce, Bruce can then give the information to the FBI and it gives it an air of authenticity. Oh, brilliant. Brilliant. Guinness guy. give the information to the FBI, and it gives it an air of authenticity. Oh, brilliant! Brilliant!

Guinness guy. Maybe that's where the Mars invasion conspiracy theory against Trump information came from. Now I know the liberals listening. Ah, that's just a conspiracy theory. Is it really? Because yesterday during the hearing, we had an illuminating moment where Jimmy J, Jimbo, is questioning Peter Stroke. He asks him specifically, did Bruce Ohr pass any materials to the FBI? Incredible moment because stroke looks puzzled for a moment and doesn't want to answer the question jim asks him multiple times during the day and at one point i guess the fbi who is unquestionably

watching the hearing on c-span or fox or whatever they were doing just like i was he turns around and one of the lawyers hands him either a piece of paper or like lets him see a phone message. I couldn't see exactly what they were doing. But he comes back to the mic, Stroke. And Stroke says, I am now authorized by the FBI to answer that question. Jordan, by the way. Joe, I know we don't have a ditto cam. We may soon.

Jordan's like this. He rolls back in a chair like, like what? What do you mean they're letting you answer the question I think Jordan was astonished because we're so used to getting now again when I don't know I don't know and I want to be candid with you I don't know I don't know why the FBI in the middle of the testimony texted or emailed the lawyer at the thing and said hey just let him say it i don't know um my guess is because i'm guessing here jordan already knows and they were afraid that jordan was going to keep going with it and basically tell the story without stroke even answering the question you get what i'm saying

i think at this point they figured we better take a bath on this now before this gets ugly gotcha yep stroke comes back to my i can answer the question or jordan's astonished he says jordan says asks him again he says did bruce or hand you materials at the fbi and stroke says yes he did folks i almost fell off the chair because now i even tweeted i go and there it is folks the information super highway as we discussed from episode 628 to like 640 the information super highway where and how did information get train tracked planed or automobiled into the fbi circumventing official channels now we have confirmation it's corn it's mccain's team it's fusion gps and it is in fact the oars who i am

quoting for all you leftist nonsense idiots out there i'm sorry but you're dope sometimes you deny this it is now on the record under oath that yes materials were in fact passed from bruce or to the fbi whose wife was working for the company working for Hillary Clinton. Bombshell, tier one level neutron bomb. Okay. One last thing. I'm going to go over a little bit today, but this is important. Yeah.

Peace in a daily caller at the show notes. I've got some great ones today on this i picked out the best of the best i've got some really good articles there today chuck ross daily caller hat tip again who's been knocking it out of the park wrote a little write-up about louis gomert not go the only my only regret about gomert questioning strokes lack of integrity i applaud him for doing so by the way but my only regret about Gohmert questioning Stroke's lack of integrity, I applaud him for doing so, by the way, but my only regret is Gohmert said something before that, Joe. You didn't even know this, did you? That was even more explosive,

and it got lost in the back and forth over Stroke's infidelity. Gohmert's talking to Stroke and reveals information we had not heard publicly before gomert says um agent stroke he starts questioning him about the icig who's the icig the intelligence community inspector general basically the internal affairs for the intelligence community apparently there's an internal affairs report that was put together and compiled from the intelligence community IG that says that Hillary Clinton's emails

from her private server were being routed to an email address that was not on the two stuff. In other words, ladies and gentlemen, someone inserted some renegade program into Hillary Clinton's server to divert her email traffic to a foreign country. Oh!

Oh! As I back away from the mic to not rip your eardrums out. Really? Really? What? Now, if you listened to this show two years ago joe and i had a source that was unimpeachable that told us hillary's server been hacked but let's assume you just started listening recently and this is new news to you which to you regular listeners it's not now we have confirmation from gomert read this daily caller story to blow your mind

we now have confirmation that there was some kind of renegade program inserted into hillary's system that routed her emails to a foreign country now i've got um i can't even, forgive me because I can't hint too. It would be disingenuous. But I've got some good people on this. Folks, this is bad. Now, to be clear from what I'm hearing, what I'm hearing is it's not Russia. Gohmert actually said that in the meeting. And it is not a Middle Eastern country. That's what I'm hearing from what we know. Now, what that country is apparently is going to be,

and the organization involved with it is going to be tier 1.5 hydrogen bomb level stuff. Mm-hmm. Do you understand what this means? Our Secretary of State set up a personal bathroom in her house server operation, which was infiltrated by a foreign actor.

That foreign actor who then routed her emails over to them so they could basically read all of her traffic wow nothing to see there folks don't you worry one bit and sadly that got lost a little bit because of the other stuff but but I think it was necessary. Gohmert needed to go after it. Read that report by the Daily Caller because that story, let me just leave you with this on that. There's going to be a lot more that comes out about that, and they are going to have nowhere to hide. Now, folks, one last thing. I was hosting for Mark the other night, and people called in a couple callers.

I know you listen to my show, too. So you may actually be listening now. And said, is there ever going to be justice here? I think so. I'm not sure, but I think so. And the reason I think so is I'm going to include in the show notes today because there's one more talking point i have to get rid of liberals repeatedly yesterday and even some republicans who have not done their homework at that hearing keep insisting that if the line of defense now for peter stroke

folks let me line them t this up for you is going to be joe well if stroke had bias he would have leaked the uh he would have leaked or the FBI would have leaked the existence of the Trump investigation before the campaign like they spoke about the Hillary campaign investigation or Hillary's email investigation. They would have done damage.

Are we clear on this? Let me make, I'm just going to repeat this one more time. The line of defense now for Stroke because the Democrats realized with this Bruce Orr information, the information superhighway and the paragraph one mechanics and allegations that they're in a world of trouble

because they realize now that at 30,000 feet, they investigated the Trump team with the full weaponization of the United States government, despite a single scintilla of credible evidence that the Trump team did anything wrong. They know they're in trouble. To defend stroke, they're going to say, because they did it yesterday, and some Republicans for some reason do not, they don't know this. They're going to say, well, if he really wanted to hurt the Trump team, like you're saying he does, he would have leaked that investigation before the election and hurt Trump's electoral chances.

And that's not what they did. They leaked the investigation into Hillary through the press conference, July 5th by Jim Comey. Folks, they did. They leaked the investigation into Hillary through the press conference, July 5th, by Jim Comey. Folks, they did leak the investigation. I want you to pull up on your computer, your iPhone, your iPad, or whatever it is in the show notes today. I think it's the second article down. A New York Times piece dated October 31st, 2016.

Not 17, not 18, not 2024, not 1986. October 31st, it is a genuine link from the New York Times about the existence of the Trump investigation. Not only was it leaked, it was leaked right before the November, early November election to do maximum damage against the Trump team. Why Republicans don't know this and don't bring this up every time that stupid alligator,

you didn't leak anything against the Trump team. Put it on your phone and nicely pull it up to your liberal friends and go, it wasn't leaked? What is that? What is it? You know what? Here, let me read this to you. Hold on. Before we go, I just want to read you the headline in case you missed this okay sorry you can leave this intro i don't think

people mind it's just important we get this oh yeah here we go newyorktimes.com october 31st 2016 scrolling to the top the article was written by eric lick blau and stephen lee myers investigating donald trump fbi sees no clear link to russia read the piece it describes in detail the investigation into donald trump liberals continue to insist was not leaked to the media it was leaked so that talking point is garbage too now i don't know stroke himself leaked it but there's absolutely zero question that the existence of the trump investigation was leaked that is factually a garbage talking point we didn't even get to the gouty one joe so uh hopefully on monday we can dig in a little more on this and i'd really like to hammer that or stuff but i think that is

a good healthy 30 000 foot view of exactly what happened yesterday and the devastating position the democrats find themselves in the paragraph one mechanics were unofficial were awful were off the books and were kept hidden because they didn't want to vet the information and the paragraph one allegations are now turning out to be all BS, meaning our government was weaponized in a grotesque political attack. All right, folks, thanks for tuning in. Please, please subscribe to my podcast. I'm humbly asking you to do that.

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