The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 764 Another Day, Another Outrage Campaign

Episode Date: July 17, 2018

Summary: In this episode I address the over-the-top Democrat-Media outrage campaign over the Trump-Putin meeting. I also address and debunk comments by socialist Democrat Ocasio-Cortez.    News Pick...s: Does Scandinavian “socialism” work? Nope.   The media lost its mind over the Trump-Putin meeting.    Socialist Ocasio-Cortez screws up again.    A solid analysis of Trump’s Russian approach.   These two charts easily debunk Ocasio-Cortez’s silly statements about capitalism.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino oh boy oh boy breaking hashtag breaking news all prior outrage campaigns all prior outrage campaigns are to be put on hold all of them the travel ban immigration outrage campaign the election outrage campaign all outrage campaigns are on hold kavanaugh's outrage campaign the supreme court nominee put them on hold joe for the new outrage campaign over uh yesterday's press conference in uh in helsinki oh my gosh producer joe how are you today man i'm doing fine except you know my my head's spinning from all this oh my gosh i almost was gonna do a special show to talk everybody off the ledge um ladies and gentlemen i don't do it joe you know
Starting point is 00:00:58 this we're just chatting before the show as we always do i don't do outrage campaigns sorry you want to have a reasonable down-to-earth conversation about the pros and cons of yesterday's presser in Helsinki with Trump and Putin. I'm going to break it down for you today. I don't do outrage campaigns. And if you're a spineless, feather-spined, weak-kneed, phony, cowardly rhino out there who felt the need
Starting point is 00:01:23 to jump on the outrage campaign bandwagon because you wanted a virtue signal to your 200 followers on twitter in in desperate hopes of saving your your congressional seat in the next election um i've got no time for you either uh don't care don't call me don't email me um it's like rocky too remember when he tries to get him in rocky too and he tries to get him to do the commercial and rocky's not interested hey rock how am i gonna find you call me what's your number no no call me just to be like hey rocko rocko shift day that shift day that's a that's just that that's what i'm saying to these congress people you're so lame it's so pathetic i've got so much this is so pathetic such i i can't stand weakness i can't stand it i i sniff it out and it disgusts me the stench of it
Starting point is 00:02:17 reeks it reeks of black death like you know that you know what you know when something rots and you get well i worked in a cemetery not to be but when you see that it it when something rots? Well, I worked in a cemetery. Not to be, but when you see when it rots, it turns these dark, nasty color. That's what it reeks, and the stench is unimaginable. I hate weakness. I can't stand it. My gosh, you're just unimaginable cowards. By the way, did I ask you how you were today?
Starting point is 00:02:44 How are you? Oh, yeah, you did. And I said I'm going a little crazy. Boy, I woke up this morning and the world was exploding here. That's right. And listen, Joe, when we talk before the show, Joe, it's usually production stuff. We were talking about some ability to get guests on and things like that. But it's rare for
Starting point is 00:03:00 Joe, I'm not kidding, to bring up an issue only because we have so much business and administrative stuff to talk about. And Joe's like, I can't take it. I'm not kidding to bring up an issue only because we have so much business and administrative stuff to talk about. And Joe's like, I can't take it. It's ridiculous. So I'm going to tell you a couple that I had some conversations yesterday I want to share with some folks and just to
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Starting point is 00:06:42 keep it in my closet um okay so the outrage campaign let's just address this right away of course we're talking about the um the presser yesterday in helsinki where the media lost their minds and i want to explain a couple things away listen let's just get a couple of facts out of the way first for people who are confused out there about what the stance of me and others and any other conservative out there is. I think most people get it that Russia is not our friend. Most meaning like 99.99% of the world that has functioning gray matter in their brains. The Russians are not our friends. Trump has ceded the point multiple times that Russians attacked our country, that they continue to attack our country. Everybody gets that. The
Starting point is 00:07:24 House Republicans in their report put that in there our country. Everybody gets that. The House Republicans in their report put that in there. We talked about that yesterday. The information, the indictment from Mueller was nothing new. The House Republicans have already talked about that information. It's in a report from April. We get that. Secondly, yeah, Trump, I think, probably could have rephrased some of the answers to the question. Okay, you know what? People make mistakes. People say things they say to them. They could have said a little differently having said that the outrage campaign comparisons to pearl harbor cristal knock uh are are by the media are outrageous no these are real comparisons that were made yesterday was the equivalent of a pearl harbor
Starting point is 00:08:01 good heavens of of uh i mean, the Holocaust comparisons. Ladies and gentlemen, this, I've got so many points to get to. I just don't know how to, for one of the first times on this show, I'm so furious about weak-kneed Republicans that I'm having a hard time categorizing it into digestible bits to give you a coherent narrative here. Let me start with this. Let's start with the media first this is the mistake the media continues to make by making every single thing trump does joe pearl harbor the holocaust nazism fascism the collapse of the republic by doing that over and over vis-a-vis out yes
Starting point is 00:08:44 outrage campaigns right and when-vis outrage campaigns. And when I say outrage campaigns, I want to be clear what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about their objecting ideologically to a policy. I'm talking about them trying to generate phenomenal amounts of outrage to drain the political bank account of Donald Trump. They're not really objecting to anything he said on substance. political bank account of Donald Trump. They're not really objecting to anything he said on substance. They're just trying to hyperbolically, you know, cue up the and fire up and light the fuse of outrage so that they can drain the political bank account of Donald Trump. And I don't mean money wise. I mean, his credibility. These outrage campaigns happen over and over and
Starting point is 00:09:18 over again. The last one, of course, was Kavanaugh. The one before that was the immigration crisis on the border. They don't really want to propose anything of substance. They lie about the substance. They just want to attack Donald Trump. Now, this is another opportunity to do that. I think the media fully understood that Trump would have probably rather taken back and rephrased his answer about the intelligence with the Russians, about how putin said no that they didn't attack the election process um i i don't buy the out the outrage by the media is only designed to compound this mistake and attack trump not designed to clear up anything here now here's
Starting point is 00:09:57 the problem and the mistake the media continues to make which winds up in the end ironically for them joe hurting the media more than it hurts trump i said this you see where i'm going with this i said this to a friend last night who's very smart astute political observer we had spent about a half an hour on the phone i said the irony of this because this this friend of mine operates in the you know the the he's not a bubble uh guy he just operates in the bubble because that's where you know that's where though he is so you know i i said to him i go you have to understand like in the bubble where you are this is the story de george oh this is it right oh my gosh for the umpteenth thousand time we got trump now they had him on the mccain comment on the access hollywood tape on the travel
Starting point is 00:10:42 ban on immigration we We got Trump now. What they don't understand is the bubble is not America. It's not. It's a small sliver of America. It is an infinitesimally small portion of what's going on in real American lives. I'm telling you, in my neighborhood down here in Palm City, Florida, where I talk to people, I go to the gym. Nobody is talking about this.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. People are on vacation. They're working out. They're like, there was a presser. Oh, we met with Putin. What happened?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Ah, it didn't go so well. Okay. Now the media, Joe, thinks they got, they think this is it for Trump. It's over. They've got it. It's over, Johnny. Take, sweep the knee. Sweep the knee. We're really dialing it up with the movie references lately by the way hat tip to all
Starting point is 00:11:31 those who caught the maria reference yesterday tka from queens you got it but the media thinks this is it the sweep the knee moment they've got him now this is the end of it so what do they do in an effort to make sure that they hammer the nail in the coffin, Joe, that they dig, instead of digging the grave three feet, they go, no, no, we got to dig it 12 feet just to make sure he doesn't do Superman from Justice League and get his way out of the grave. So in digging 12 feet deep, they tire themselves out digging, and then they lose all energy and run out of gas,
Starting point is 00:12:05 and they lose credibility in the future. Ah, there it is. The 12-footer digging rather than a three-foot grave, and I hope this analogy makes sense. Instead of saving some of their ammo and energy for later, just thinking he's dead, right? They think they got him. Put him three feet deep and let it go. But they say, no, let's dig a 12-foot one, and let's make sure he never gets out. And they waste all their energy. And later on, there's no gas left in the tank. They've wasted and output all their ideological energy and opposition by insisting this is Pearl Harbor. This is the worst thing.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And people tune them out. But here's the catch. They didn't tune them out yesterday, Joe. No. They tuned them out on the second and third outrage campaign. This is like the 10th one. No. This is why I don't do outrage campaigns.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yes, yes. I'm not interested. I said yesterday on Twitter, nope, no thanks. Not interested in joining the outrage campaign. Good man. I wish he would have answered the question a little differently. People make mistakes on the foreign stage, and I'm going to explain what i think happened but i am not joining in with you know the the the sellout class and people who are
Starting point is 00:13:12 more interested in preserving the foreign policy swamp not interested sorry folks not interested at all not even a little bit here's what happened yesterday all right ladies, as I explained to another friend yesterday, Trump is not a politician. Not an excuse, not apologizing for anything. I'm just telling you the facts. He is not a politician. He has not been engaged in the political process where maybe let me if you don't mind let me just use a quick analogy maybe this will make more sense because saying he's not a politician I can sense it's not going to help this much Joe knew me when I ran for office for the US Senate when I first started and
Starting point is 00:13:59 the political process is something you can't explain to people unless they're in it you can't um it's a devastating difficult process it's taught when you're a republican you're a democrat expect to be coddled endlessly um but when you're a republican i'm not whining about any this isn't snowflake stuff i'm just warning you if you decide to get into politics expect to be attacked on every single thing you say facts be damned it's happened to me i mean i actually got into a verbal uh tit for tat with a washington post guy i'm not making this up about unquestioned facts about the bush
Starting point is 00:14:34 tax cuts how they generated more revenue now i even sent them the links to the he didn't care because he was so committed the tax cuts cost the government money. Expect to be attacked endlessly. After a while, you just learn by trial and error how to deal with these people. And you almost learn to kind of ignore them. You also learn, this is the most important takeaway here, you learn not what to do, you learn what not to do. In other words, you learn that you'll never get in trouble for things you never said. And with the media, you're almost better off
Starting point is 00:15:08 just not answering questions sometimes. Trump's not a politician. The benefit to that, which I think is far, far outweighs the downsides, is that Trump has not learned to sell out. He's not learned to sell out to moneyed interests. He's not learned to sell out to lobbyists. He has not learned to kiss the to moneyed interests. He's not learned to sell out to lobbyists. He has not learned to kiss the butts of people to get reelected. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But that comes with a bit of a downside. The downside is he hasn't taken some of the shots that people who have gone through the political process over the years have, and therefore he hasn't learned yet what not to do. So he says, and he speaks in an off-the-cuff manner, and the media jumps on every word, and they assume he means every single word when it's clear that he talks in hyperbolic language. I've explained the Queen's thing a million times, that there's almost like a scale he weighs here.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He goes back and forth between bravado and flattery. Now, this is what I mean by that. The media hasn't figured out why he uses this hyperbolic language at times. The bravado and flattery is is a it's a New York thing. I've explained the Queen's angle before, but when Trump goes into a meeting with, say, union bosses, New York City bureaucrats,
Starting point is 00:16:32 and he's got to get a building built, he knows he has to walk in there with a certain amount of swagger or they're not going to respect him. But, and you folks who've done business in New York, you know exactly what I'm talking about. For those of you who haven't, you have to balance that, though,
Starting point is 00:16:52 with hyperbolic flattery on the other side in order for the other guy at the table or woman to understand you respect them, too. Because remember, the New Yorker who's doing business is walking in with the same bravado you are. So you have to gain respect. But you also have to confer upon the other person in the room a sense of respect via flattery too. Or nothing's going to get done and the building's not going to get built.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Folks, take it or leave it. I'm telling you I know exactly what happened yesterday. He walked out there. He has been very hard on Russia, combating Nord Stream 2 in an effort to gain natural gas influence for the United States and to wean Germany and the EU off Russian natural gas. He has been tough on the Russian military mercenaries, which he wiped out hundreds of them. Again, I'm not asking you to agree or disagree. I'm telling you what happened. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I'm just giving you the facts on the ground. His sanctioning, and basically a doubling down on Magnitsky, a sanctioning of people, by the way, personally connected to Putin. Trump has been far harder on Russia than any prior American president in the last two or three. No question in my mind. The talk yesterday is an act. It's the bravado, flattery, justice scales he has to balance going into meetings he's accustomed to dealing with in the past where he's got to get something actually done. He understands he has to go in there first with the bravado and the swagger about how wonderful he is and how great that, you know, and how powerful his business is.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And he also has to flatter the other guy at the table in an effort to make sure he feels important enough that they're dealing as equals. Now, I get it in foreign policy. The foreign policy swamp doesn't like that. Now, I get it in foreign policy, the foreign policy swamp doesn't like that. They don't want Putin to see himself as an equal on the global stage because they think it lends an air of legitimacy to a tyrant and a despot, which he is. But folks, keep in mind, Putin is not stupid. He knows 200 of his mercs were wiped out on a Syrianrian battlefield yeah he knows trump has provided lethal weaponry to ukraine where obama hasn't again i'm not asking you to agree with it i'm just telling you what's happened and what putin knows he's not stupid he knows trump does
Starting point is 00:19:20 not agree with the shuttling of natural gas under the Baltic Sea to Germany from Russia because he just watched the presser. And I find it triply ironic, regardless of your feelings about U.S. involvement in NATO anymore, that people say, oh, he's destroying it, destroying NATO. His whole purpose of the meeting was to have folks have these countries double down on their monetary gdp percentage commitments to nato what are you talking about putin's not stupid he knows this now the press joe this is important that has never ever been in what he's mean because they
Starting point is 00:20:00 depressed these people don't have real jobs okay they're media people not all of them but most of them went to school couldn't figure out how to be engineers couldn't do an mba because they couldn't handle the finance and the spreadsheets couldn't be doctors because they couldn't handle the science so they wind up in journalism they've never been in a they don't understand they've never been in these meetings these media people also never run for office either. Joe and I are in business meetings two, three times a week talking about really high-end stuff for millions of dollars in assets, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's not a joke. I'm not patting myself on the back, but you have to learn how to balance the bravado and the flattery, and in New York, you can double and triple that because everybody's got a big New York personality because everything in New York is fast got a big New York personality because everything
Starting point is 00:20:45 in New York is fast. Everything in New York is edgy and everything in New York is super tough. You're not even allowed to talk to the person in the checkout counter in a grocery store in New York. We're not getting yelled at by the guy behind you. Doubt me. Try it. Go strike up a conversation in the local supermarket in New York with the checkout person with
Starting point is 00:21:03 a line of five people. Watch what happens. No, I five people. Watch what happens. No, I'm serious. Watch what happens to you. Right, Joe? Watch. You'll get thrown out of there so fast. Get down here in Palm City.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I talk all day in the local public. It's no problem at all. People are like, hey, they'll join the conversation. You're not in Kansas anymore. No, you're not, Toto. You are not in Kansas anymore. This is what this guy's lived his entire life. Mob people trying to shake him down on jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Oh, you don't think that happens? Hey, here's how the... You know the New York sanitation racket? Here's how the sanitation's going to work. You know private sanitation in New York? See, again, if you're not from New York, you have no idea what Trump's made of. And the media people who've never done
Starting point is 00:21:42 a business deal in their lives never matter of fact they've never been in business at all in their life don't understand this so what do they do they jump on this is pearl harbor he sold out u.s interest i'm nauseous over this i'm nauseous saul makes a comeback bring your glasses and your shoes that's me this is the media whiners the worst they don't get it they've never done any of this none of this makes any sense to them because they've never had a deal with anyone like trump and they don't understand it he's walking in there and if the business deals he's walked into his entire life with hard-edged tough real world cutthroat business negotiators who will throw
Starting point is 00:22:24 you overboard in a minute if you don't walk in there and puff your chest a bit but you can't puff it too much that's right because the other side if they think you're trying to take advantage of them they get upset too so you've got to there's got to be a certain amount of flattery and he the mistake i think he made is the flattery cannot transcend into a question that's almost universally settled at this point, which is the fact that the Russians are just not our friends in that respect. That was, I think, the problem we had yesterday. So the points I have, here's the takeaways, because I don't like to just ramble. I want to make sure you have something to take away from this tangibly. One, this is another outrage campaign, meaning the outrage is not commensurate with what actually
Starting point is 00:23:07 happened. It's not. You're free, obviously, to disagree. Media folks, too. I always vocally support a free media, even the freedom to be stupid. But the outrage is no way corresponds to, I think, the small mistakes he made that can be easily corrected. Second, the massive, absurd, ridiculous, outrageous overreaction by the media, again, will do nothing outside of the DC bubble to damage Trump, but will do everything to damage the credibility of the media. That's point number two. You lose again. Point number three, the man is not a politician. You have to stop analyzing every single comma, period, prepositional phrase or hanging participle he puts out there, Trump,
Starting point is 00:24:00 and analyze what he does. Listen, critique what he says all you want. That's your job in the media. I love the free press, even when you're free to be dumb. I'm just suggesting to you that you are making a critical mistake by constantly overlooking what this guy's done for what he says. And by making that critical mistake, even liberal Democrats trying to combat Donald Trump and beat him in 2020, win against him in 2020, you are going to lose again. Because the American people are not paying attention exclusively to what he says, but to what he does. That's what you're missing. Another point, takeaway.
Starting point is 00:24:40 The bravado versus the flattery. If you really care to analyze trump honestly critique him not critique him whatever you choose to do if you don't understand that his how he's been trained to operate in a competitive cutthroat business world of new york city where you actually have to build things you can't just talk about them there's a balance of bravado and flattery that defines how he operates. Puff your chest, puff your chest, puff even more. And in a minute, you get some kind of grind by the other guy who's puffing his chest too. You flatter him a little bit. Listen, we get it. You're running the biggest union in New York City. I understand how important you are. I'm glad you're at the table and I'm dealing with you. I've heard from your members. They love you. He probably hasn't
Starting point is 00:25:23 heard from any members, Joe. He probably hasn't. I was talking to a guy in the street yesterday. He said, you're the greatest union boss in the history of humankind. You're huge. You're terrific. It's the greatest thing ever. This is Trump, right? He probably hasn't heard any of that.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But he understands that he's got to talk this guy off the ledge and make him feel important for a minute. None of the friction points and critical questions will be resolved or addressed or addressed because it'll become personal and not professional another takeaway pay attention to what trump is doing not what he is saying i'm not suggesting you don't criticize or we become golden calf worshipers of anyone in office, the president included. I agree. I probably could have rephrased that yesterday. But are you even interested in what the man is doing? The Democrats are not. Pay attention to that. Finally, one last takeaway here.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Put yourself in the man's shoes for a minute. Please. This is a guy who has been ruthlessly attacked by senior level managers at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency, the former DNI and Jim Clapper, the Obama administration,
Starting point is 00:26:37 Susan Rice, and people we had previously thought, although political, everybody's political and has a partisan ideology. In the past, we had thought at least that these people should be above reproach. The idea that we would weaponize the federal government's massive powers, the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency, to gather intelligence and use it against someone to potentially take their freedom and bankrupt them in the case of Mike Flynn. Both.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Was abhorrent to Americans. Matter of fact, you would have laughed it off as a conspiracy theory. Yeah, that's crazy. Ladies and gentlemen, that happened. That actually happened to this guy. He knows this. Maybe this is directed at the rhinos, by the way, not the media. Because the media is going to attack Trump regardless. So I'm done with you now. Now I'm moving on at the rhinos, by the way, not the media, because the media is going to attack Trump regardless.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So I'm done with you now. Now I'm moving on to the rhinos, to the conservative, so-called pseudo-conservatives, all the weak-kneed folks out there. Maybe before you jump out there and virtue signal, maybe you should come out with a statement saying, listen, I disagree. I think we could have worded that differently.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But on the other side, I understand where President Trump's coming from. President Trump has been attacked. Again, I would have phrased that comment differently. And I think, you know, a statement's probably in order here. But if I were under ruthless, endless attack on spurious, counterfeit, nonsense, false, fraudulent charges about being a traitor to the United States for two years, i'd probably be pretty upset too and maybe sometimes i wouldn't be so eloquent um in my comments when asked about uh the intelligence community's assessment that my election results were fraudulent but no they don't do that the weak-kneed rhinos run out there in front of the cameras and take
Starting point is 00:28:21 every opportunity to join in the anti-Trump brigade. And listen, I'm not doing it. I'm not interested. I'm sorry. And folks, if that bothers you, I get it. I love you to death. You matter to me more than anything. I try to answer as many emails as I can. I have emails on the website. But listen, and this may not be for you. When i feel there's a substantive reason to question the president's actions you know where i stand on the tariffs thing we've done this before joe i've taken you know the death penalty thing which gosh i mentioned that my email account didn't stop going for three four days i'm not you know i'm not a puppet of anybody i have my own opinions
Starting point is 00:28:59 and i i i owe you honesty but i think the president's mistake yesterday was a small one. I think the media response was outrageous. I think the RINO response was even more outrageous considering the context. And I'm not jumping on the outrage bandwagon. I'm sorry. I'm not doing it. That's for suckers. You want to jump on it?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Go right ahead. Yeah, I did get a kick out of him a little bit yesterday when he was commenting on Putin had offered to send his guys over and help. Now, everybody knows, by the way, that that's not going to happen, of course. And we're not sending any Russians over here. This guy's not our friend. We get that. But listen,
Starting point is 00:29:45 the indictment, the timing of the indictment was suspect, as Joe saw in yesterday's show. By the way, they loved my song. And Joe said, I forgot where I got that from. If you listen to yesterday's show on Monday,
Starting point is 00:29:57 Joe's always good. I forget the pop culture stuff sometimes. I'm a Russian, you're a Russian, he's a Russian, she's a Russian, wouldn't you want to be a Russian too? Yeah. That's from the Dr. ad i had no i i knew i'd heard it somewhere but i swear i had no idea that was
Starting point is 00:30:12 dr pepper joe after the show i was like hey that was funny dr pepper i'm like what he's like that was a dr pepper course i'm like yes i'm a russian so ridiculous so ridiculous conspiracy theorists are out in full all right i've got some other good stuff for you today uh today's show brought to you also by our buddies at beach body on demand it's summer it's summer beach body on demand is an easy to use streaming service that gives you instant access to a wide variety of super effective workouts you can do from the comfort of your living room 24 7 beach body Beachbody On Demand is the best. These guys kick butt.
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Starting point is 00:33:26 Let's get to that. That's a good one. This woman's becoming a recurring gift for the Republican Party and the conservative movement. The winner in an upset victory in a New York congressional race over established Democrat insider Joe Crowley, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. She keeps talking and the Republicans keep and the conservatives keep shaking their heads like, did she really say that? Now, she was on firing line with Margaret Hoover and just had some more outrageously silly, ridiculous things to say. Her concept of economics is, it's not even economics. I don't know what it is. It's some kind of religion she believes in. But listen to this. And I want to just break this down and destroy some of the stuff she says in this because it's so not based in
Starting point is 00:34:16 reality at all. Now the economy is going pretty strong, right? There's roughly 4% unemployment, 3.9% unemployment. Do you think that capitalism has failed to deliver for working class Americans or is no longer the best vehicle for working class Americans? Well, I think the numbers that you just talked about is part of the problem, right? Because we look at these figures and we say, oh, unemployment is low. Everything is fine, right? Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low, everything is fine, right? Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their kids. And so I do think that right now when we have this no holds barred, wild west, hyper capitalism, what that means is profit at any cost capitalism has not always existed in the world
Starting point is 00:35:07 and it will not always exist in the world oh my gosh can somebody please get me a pepto tablet seriously i'm getting a indigestion listening to alexandria is it alexandria or alexandra i don't mean to mispronounce her name. Well, you know, seriously, I'm not attacking her personally. You know, good for her for getting out there and knocking on doors and beating this guy. You know, sometimes you need that to shake up the political establishment. But folks, just on the issues, if we can stick to that,
Starting point is 00:35:40 Ms. Cortez just doesn't know what she's talking about. So, the Dan Bongino Show. Joe, what do we do best? We use actual facts. All right. Hashtag facts matter on the Dan Bongino Show. So let's attack a couple of those ideas she put out there that are absurd. The first, that the reason unemployment is so low is because a bunch of people out there are working two jobs, 60 and 70 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:36:05 How, by the way, she came to that answer, I have no idea. Sometimes it's just better off saying, I don't know, let me look it up. So just to be clear, the liberals listening too, we're going to do facts here. You may want to tune out now because this is the actual data portion of the show. You may want to tune out now because this is the actual data portion of the show. So if the premise here is that unemployment is low because there's an unusual number of people working two jobs, you would think the data would belie that. What did I do? What I always do, I'm helping you out.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I am going to attach an article in the show notes from AEI.org. Go to Bongino.com. Subscribe to my email list. I will email this stuff to you every day uh that actually has the numbers about people working two jobs joe what is the data on people working two jobs 4.8 of the workforce which has been declining over the years and is lower than it was before the great great recession are 4.8 of the workforce only are people working two jobs not only is that not true,
Starting point is 00:37:07 that that's what led to the low unemployment numbers. And remember, she's saying that the unemployment is low because an unusually large number of people are working two jobs. Not only is that factually incorrect, the opposite is true. That the number of people working two jobs is declining and is lower than it was before the Great Recession and is some of the lowest numbers we've seen in decades. Joe, the facts, does this matter? I know it matters to you because you're
Starting point is 00:37:31 a sane person, but to the liberals who listen to my show, because I get your emails, including some nut job yesterday, he was like sending threats over email, which I promptly screenshotted, which scared him a little bit, by the way, which is kind of funny. It was because he was so brave until I sent him screenshots of his own emails. I guess he read them. I was like, this is crazy. Folks, do facts matter? Liberals, does that matter to you? If the numbers were there and what Cortez said was correct, I would be happy to put it out on the show and offer an explanation as to why I think that's true. What she's saying is not only untrue, that unemployment's low because an unbelievable number of people are working two jobs. It's not only that, the opposite is true.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That that number's been declining for years, is lower than it was before the Great Recession, and is almost historically low compared to other times in our history. It's just not true. Only 4.8% of people in the workforce are working two jobs. Do you get that? Liberals, is this hard? Can we put that to bed that she's just making that up? That she's not only wrong,
Starting point is 00:38:37 she's wrong in the wrong, she's double wrong because she's not only wrong, she's wrong in the wrong direction. It would be one thing, Joe, to say, okay, it's still a low number, but the number of people working two jobs is going up and that may have something she's wrong twice she's not only wrong about the quantity she's wrong about the magnitude it's in the wrong direction the number's going down and it's historically low
Starting point is 00:39:00 she just made that up now you want to i get it the cult of personality on the left and that's why we don't do that we don't golden calf politicians here i get it you do the cult of personality stuff and and you're in love with the woman for for what i i don't know i don't understand i'm just telling you she doesn't know what she's talking about she says later in the piece and this part's just just silly. I debated even addressing it, but at the end of the piece, she says that this is the Wild West and there are no rules. Hey, Mom!
Starting point is 00:39:32 The meatloaf! Dude, that was all. The show's over. That was all. We're just going to end it. People love the Ma the meatloaf one, I'm telling you they do what there's no rules does she know what the federal register is the thousands of pages that the federal government compiles of federal rules
Starting point is 00:39:59 joe that's not state rules local rules municipality rules hoa rules unfettered capitalism are you i'm trying to hold my tongue because this is so dumb i feel like you're gonna need to take like one of those fish oil supplements to rebuild the neuronal connections you're losing by listening to the utter complete ignorance coming out of the mouth of this woman we live in unfettered wild west capitalism a profit at all costs at all what do you mean so we're allowed to go out there and and what and and buy my product or or we're gonna poison you to death it's unfettered i better buy it today all right is this is this real are we really having these debates with a woman who's going to win a seat in Congress? I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I debated even addressing that because facts and data, do I have to really produce facts that the government exists and has regulations? Are we going to waste time on the show with this? This is a real person really running for Congress who is really humiliating herself with every single appearance now now although i don't have the cut of this one said she went on
Starting point is 00:41:11 to say later um in that interview is margaret hoover did a pretty good job and said to her well how do you explain the incredible advances in human prosperity over the years without capitalism like it doesn't make sense otherwise and she said and i quote that that is due to human evolution that's the quote oh boy human evolution yes so when we evolve from Yes. So when we evolved from Australopithecus Africanus to Homo sapiens sapiens and to where, you know, that the yes, that that was that was everything and nothing to do with the actual economic organization system bedrock and freedom. Again, how to address this is bizarre. But in an effort to speed up the show here to get you just the facts, to show you how dumb that assertion really is, the AEI piece has a very simple chart for you to look at.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Joe? Yes? Here it is right here. I will show it to you. It's super simple. I got you. Yep. GDP per person.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Gross domestic product. Meaning, individual wealth per person, the things you have, medicine, water, food. per person, the things you have, medicine, water, food, GDP per person from 1000 AD to 1750 AD remained flat, well below $5,000 per person. Right around 1750 afterwards, when we see the advent of some form of economic freedom, capitalism, which to be clear, capitalism is the use of a price mechanism to allocate resources. It's the use of a price mechanism to allocate resources it's the use of a wage function to measure the value of someone's labor rather than forced slavery and indentured servitude and third it's the ability to own private property rather than that property being owned by the government when we see those ideas start to advance and move 1750 on, we see a dramatic uptick, a geometric growth in the GDP per person, the wealth of each individual person up to today, which is approximately in the United States,
Starting point is 00:43:13 roughly $45,000 per person. Now you can explain that by the influence of ghosts, demons, whatever you choose to. That's called the correlation correlation the correlation is ironclad in this in this case it's it's so ironclad that to not call i'm always hesitant to infer causation from correlation but not infer causation from that is just plain ignorance she doesn't know what she's talking about how else you would explain away the wealth of individual people here and around the world growing almost correspondingly one-to-one with the growth in economic freedom how you can explain that away any other way speaks to your ignorance and you really should um you really should reconsider doing any public
Starting point is 00:43:56 appearances until you can figure out things like basic math and basic facts and data and research it's just embarrassing. Embarrassing. All right, folks. One more, and then I want to wrap up with a couple. I want to hit that Scandinavian thing, too. I teased yesterday
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Starting point is 00:46:20 available in the show notes which i'll send to you if you subscribe to the email list. And he's been debunking the myth of Scandinavian socialism. Denmark, Norway, all these countries. Oh, democratic socialism, kind of the Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders idea of a worldwide utopia. So Matt's part one of the piece debunked three ideas. Number one, these Scandinavian countries are not socialist. They're not socialist. Socialist. The demarcation point between socialism and capitalism is government control of the means of production.
Starting point is 00:46:53 If the government does not own the means of production in the government, de facto or de jure, it is not a socialist country. It is a capitalist country. It may have a big government. It may have an expansive government. It may have a welfare state, but it is not socialist. He debunks that. Secondly, he makes a terrific point that's been brought up before by other authors on this topic too, that Swedes in Sweden are not as wealthy as Swedes in the United States. In other words, the Swedish Scandinavian work ethic, which is strong, eventually overpowers the force of big government.
Starting point is 00:47:27 They do have a big government over there. It's very expensive. Let's not make any mistakes. But when you take the same Scandinavian work ethic, the Swedish work ethic, and you transplant those folks into a freer market system in the United States without the heaviest burden of government they have over there, the heavier burden of government, I should say. They are wealthier here than they are there. Finally, third point, these Scandinavian countries got wealthy before government exploded in size and their degree of growth, their rate of growth has slowed down since their government expanded. This is a critical point.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Now, in part two, which is up at my website, he hammers a couple more points that they cite the levels of equality, the Democrat socials. Oh, Joe, these Scandinavian countries, everybody's equal all the time. Ladies and gentlemen, Matt puts conclusive data in there that the drop in inequality, Matt puts conclusive data in there that the drop in inequality, the drop in inequality happened again before the explosive growth in government in these countries has been rising since government has picked up steam and expanded in size. Read the piece. You'll see the data. It's pretty conclusive.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Not to mention, Joe, he says in the piece, and I quote quote an income inequality isn't the only kind of inequality ladies and gentlemen the scandinavian nations have plenty of wealth inequality in other words joe you may make a hundred thousand dollars a year i may make a dollar a year but if i have 40 million dollars in assets i'd rather be me than joe i'd rather be you too he says in the united states the top one percent owns roughly 35 of all wealth in sweden the top one percent controls 25 to 40 of total wealth so you're you're you're mixing and matching inequality but you're you're confusing income with wealth high taxes have proven unsuccessful at alleviating that problem according According to one study, the share of the richest Swedes who inherited their wealth is around two-thirds, with only a third being entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 00:49:30 In America, the majority of wealth is self-made, while in Sweden it's generational. Don't let that get in the way of a good story, though, folks. I know you need that. Secondly, Matt hammers away at the Democratic Socialist point. Oh, these Scandinavian countries, Joe, they have free college, free, everything's free. Nothing's free. Remember, folks, as Milton Friedman once said, all debts are paid by the debtor or the creditor.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You lend someone money and he doesn't pay it back. That debt was paid. It was paid by you. All debts are paid. Nothing is free. Someone is paying. The only question is who's paying and how's the money allocated. Here's some points debunking the myth of free college in Scandinavia.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And I quote, in 2013, average college debt among the graduating students was 19,000 in Sweden. Wait, wait, wait. Time out. Red flag under the hood for review. How is it? Right, Joe's scratching his head, how if colleges, air quotes here, free, are students in Sweden graduating with $19,000 in debt compared to 24,000 in America?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Now, our college is not, quote, free, but those are relatively comparable numbers. That doesn't make any sense. Well, Matt goes on, it's presumably room and board, which is responsible for the debt in Sweden. After all, why commute when the tuition is covered? When everybody has a college degree, nobody does. Matt goes on, an American college graduate earns 65% more than a high school graduate, while in Sweden, college graduates only earned 25% more.
Starting point is 00:51:05 As a result of the lack of return on investment described above, Swedish graduates have the highest debt-to-income ratios of any group of students in the developed world. Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight. You're selling this Swedish Scandinavian model of, quote, free college to Americans. You're selling it to impressionable kids based on the effect, hey, kids, you're going to come out of college with a debt. It's going to be unimaginable money because everybody goes to college. Therefore, there's no differentiating quality at all to the degree.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And secondly, you still have to pay for all the room and board, which tallies up to $19,000 a year while you're making a lesser salary. Yeah! Nice job, Chucky. Nice job. Wonderful work. You guys are really knocking it out of the park. Does anything liberals ever tell you? Is anything ever true?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Ladies and gentlemen, again, we do facts and data on the show. And when you dig into the facts and data, you find out that the facts and data prove conclusively that these people are just making this up about Scandinavian countries. Finally, point number three, the welfare state. Oh, Joe, the welfare state. Free sick leave. Everything's free, remember, which we all know is nonsense. Somebody's paying, and that someone is the Swedes who are paying through exorbitant tax rates.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Despite being one of the healthiest nations in the world in the early 2000s, nearly 10% of Sweden's entire workforce at any given time was on paid sick leave. And why wouldn't they when their government would pay 80% of their salary while on sick leave? The average number of sick leaves
Starting point is 00:52:48 taken per Swede per year more than doubled when the government increased the percentage of salary they'd pay from 75% to 80%. You have similar numbers in Denmark. Ladies and gentlemen, the welfare state has consequences.
Starting point is 00:53:00 The consequences are this. When it's, quote, free for you to take off from work unsurprisingly to many people will do what they will take off work because they get 80 of their salary you get sick uh you know sick leave rates of sick leave taken that are some of the highest in the world which leads to what decreased productivity which leads to what decreased national wealth over time folks nothing's free everything has a consequence everything has a price and if there's one if there's one point on because i got one more thing
Starting point is 00:53:33 i want to get to here but if there's one point i'd like you to take away from the show i haven't mentioned in a in a long time when it comes to basic economics and understanding of basic economics and government policy that influences economics. It's keep in mind Pareto optimization, maximization, whatever you want to call it, based on an economist whose name was Pareto. Shocking how that happens, right? It's kind of like how the Dan Bongino show found a guy named Dan Bongino to do the Dan Bongino show. Incredible how that happens.
Starting point is 00:54:02 on a guy named Dan Bongino to do the Dan Bongino show. Incredible how that happens. Pareto optimization says this, that a policy can be deemed somewhat effective if it helps just one person while harming no one. Now, when you view government through that lens, you see quickly how almost nothing fits this category. This is why people who are libertarians capitalists like me prefer to keep the government as small as possible because there there is no
Starting point is 00:54:32 government policy that's going to help at least one person while harming no one someone is always going to be and keep in mind that harm doesn't mean your tax because the tax you take the money you pay say you pay a thousand dollars a year for the military you may garner a thousand and one dollars in benefits that's not the economics that's not being harmed right you get what i'm saying yeah so the problem with this is that these policies clearly clearly do not help people they lead decreased productivity, excessive rates of sick leave, excessive rates of debt to income ratio on your quote free college. They lead to reduced economic benefits for everybody in society.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Keep in mind that Pareto optimization anytime you hear about a policy. Whenever you hear things about Obamacare, oh, we're going to give away free healthcare. So what, you're helping one person? Well, how many people are you harming? Oh, millions. Oh, okay okay maybe we shouldn't do that Pareto optimization keep it in your head at all times okay um one last story the tax cuts so in a genius move the Republicans are getting ready to double down on the tax cuts now I just want you to remember the
Starting point is 00:55:42 history here quickly in the last few minutes of what happened. Trump signed the tax cut bill in conjunction with the GOP in the House and Senate. No Democrats voted for it. It cut the corporate tax rate and income tax rates. Now, the Democrats' talking point after that, you may have forgotten because that outrage campaign has been replaced by six or seven subsequent outrage campaigns, Joe. Remember the talking point there? Well, the Republicans made the corporate tax cuts permanent, but the personal income tax cuts, they didn't make permanent. No, wrong. That's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:56:15 What happened is the Democrats in the Senate threatened a filibuster. By threatening a filibuster, the Republicans had to use a process called reconciliation. That reconciliation process in the Senate to overcome a Democrat filibuster has a 10-year sunset. That 10-year sunset would not exist if the Democrats did not filibuster. Ladies and gentlemen, again, these are facts. Whether you believe them or not is entirely irrelevant. It doesn't alter the fact of the matter on the ground.
Starting point is 00:56:41 is entirely irrelevant. It doesn't alter the fact of the matter on the ground. Now, in a genius move, putting the Democrats on the spot, the Republicans are going to put forth a bill to combat the Democrat talking point. Oh, you guys just made the, you wanted to help businesses, therefore you made the personal ones temporary.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Okay, so what I told them to do, what, six months ago, Joe? I said, you guys need to put a bill out there making these tax cuts permanent to show how hypocritical the Democrats are. Therefore, right before the election, when all these Democrats saying, you know what, we would have made these permanent, but the Republicans just don't want to. OK, here's the Republican bill. Now watch the Democrats vote against it and show what kind of outright rank hypocrisy these people, hypocrites they are. They're complete, total frauds, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:57:28 They're just making this up. All right. One final note before we leave on a sad note. So I got an email this morning from a friend in the Secret Service who's since left. And I was really taken aback. I was kind of floored. I was kind of floored. I didn't see it coming.
Starting point is 00:57:47 A guy, a friend, I just want you to remember the name in a good way, a guy named Noel Remigin, whose father was a Secret Service employee as well. He was a good guy. He was overseas in Scotland with President Trump on the trip, and 40 years old. He was 42.
Starting point is 00:58:10 He died unexpectedly. He had a massive stroke while in the, I can't even imagine, Joe, I got the email this morning. We have a down room when you're a Secret Service agent. There's always a hotel room when you're at an RON. An RON is where the president remains overnight. It's always called an RON. An RON is where the president remains overnight. It's a, you know, it's always called an RON. So we get hotel rooms too. And one of them's a down room, you know, so you rotate out the agents in front of the door and everybody kind of takes a break
Starting point is 00:58:34 so that you don't stand for eight hours. You'd be totally not functional. So apparently he went in the down room and sat down and, you know, you don't sleep in the down room. And I guess one of the post standards, according to the story, was next to him and noticed he was sleeping. So nudged him, you know you don't sleep in the down room and i guess one of the post standards according to the story was next to him and noticed he was sleeping so nudged him you know like hey you're not supposed to sleep well he wasn't sleeping apparently he'd had a massive stroke um they took him to the one of the best hospitals in scotland and he didn't pull through so he has
Starting point is 00:59:02 two young children he's an incredible guy his name is noel remigen and um i'm going to ask you in the in the future if they do a gofundme or something like that if you'd be willing it's total of course your call i'll be uh chipping in there as well but he had young kids and a wife and it's just a horrible horrible story and it just reminds me of you know how you don't know the plan folks you know and i don't mean to be hyperbolic or overly dramatic but you don't know the plan and just cherish those kids and everything every day the sunsets you know the kids at a baseball game those little smiles that laugh they give you because you just don't know what's going to be your last we don't know the plan we're not smart enough to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:59:46 The Almighty's got a plan for us, and you want to know a little early. So, Noel Remigian, God bless you, brother. I'll see you all tomorrow. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show. Get more of Dan online anytime at conservativereview.com. You can also get Dan's podcasts on iTunes or SoundCloud and follow Dan on Twitter 24-7 at DBongino.

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