The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 772 Mueller’s Case Is Falling Apart

Episode Date: July 27, 2018

Summary: In this episode I address the increasingly desperate Mueller probe’s recent moves. I also address two reasons why the collusion narrative is dead, while the Spygate scandal grows.    News... Picks: This piece debunks four crazy Ocasio-Cortez economic ideas.    If Michael Cohen is used as a witness in the Mueller probe, he is going to have a lot of explaining to do.    This Daily Caller piece provides significant clues to the Clinton connections of the Russians in the Trump Tower meeting.    Michael Cohen attacked the credibility of the dossier in a lawsuit.    Mollie Hemingway’s piece addresses the media’s involvement in the fake “collusion” narrative.   Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today i'm doing very well thank you been our best week ever thanks to you all we appreciate it i think the news cycle again is speeding up at rapid pace we are in in drag strip level pace for the news cycle. A lot to talk about today. Again, so breaking this morning for liberals for the 1478th time. We got Trump now. We got Trump now.
Starting point is 00:00:38 His lawyer, a former lawyer, Michael Cohen, is now saying that, oh, Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to explain to you today why, one, not only should you not panic about this, you should actually put a smile on your face about this. What? Even Joe's probably like, what is he talking about? I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. I have no idea where he's going with this stuff anymore, by the way. I have turned over the soundboard, and the audience seems to really,
Starting point is 00:01:08 I even sent Joe a lot of your emails. Yeah, thank you. They seem to really like Joe's new, we've given Joe free reign to do whatever he wants with the soundboard. Thank you. Don't worry about this stuff. This is actually a golden opportunity. I will break it down for you.
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Starting point is 00:03:56 So here's what's going on, folks. They're celebrating that Trump's lawyer came out and said that the meeting, the meeting they're referring to, so you're aware of the specifics, is the meeting last summer with Trump Jr. at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer and another Russian lobbyist kind of person, business-interested person, met with trump jr at trump tower right so the story we've been hearing is that uh don trump's the president don trump senior obviously um did not know about this meeting it was set up by trump jr um and that the the democrat narrative and the media narrative has been look look this is evidence of collusion they met with these russians and the russian lawyer and this other Russian over there because
Starting point is 00:04:45 they were looking to exchange information about Hillary Clinton, potential dirt on Hillary Clinton. This is evidence of collusion. Now, Don Trump Jr. has been forthright and has disclosed publicly all of his emails about the incident. And the emails, listen, they are pretty. And I don't think the meeting was a particularly good idea. I think a lot of people, including the Trump team, would acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But there are no credible allegations of any illegality in the meeting was a particularly good idea. I think a lot of people, including the Trump team, would acknowledge that. But there are no credible allegations of any illegality in the meeting. And matter of fact, in the meeting, no information about Hillary was actually exchanged. They walked in there, these two Russians, in Trump Tower, by the way, which if you were going to hide a meeting, Joe, you think you would do it in Trump Tower? You think you may want to do it somewhere else? Yeah, I think so. Kind of a good idea, right? So they do it in Trump Tower openly, and after a few minutes, they figure out that the meeting is about the Magnitsky Act. The Magnitsky Act, which is a sanctions effort on some Russian oligarchs that were involved in the killing of Sergei Magnitsky,
Starting point is 00:05:41 who is a Russian lawyer. So no information about Hillary's exchange. Now, let me get to the meat and potatoes here. So I think this information, this, get ready, Joe. I think the information was actually, may have been leaked by people connected to the Trump team. I do. I do. And you may say, well, why would they do?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Why would you do that? I do. I do. And you may say, well, why would they do? Why would you do that? I was watching Goodfellas last night, Ray Liotta, when his wife flushes the cocaine down the toilet bowl. Why would you do that? Bing, pow, boom. Bing, pow, boom.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Why would you do that? That was Goodfellas, too. The bamboo lounge scene, which I love. the bamboo lounge seat which i love ladies and gentlemen the meeting that happened between trump jr and these two russians damages the hillary team far more than it damages the trump team yep you're like really that yes now not only does the the meeting damage the i'm going to get to that in a second so we're going to talk about two specific things here i'm going to get to the gdp numbers don't worry i've got a lot to get to there's a lot of news don't you worry um your hour will be packed you will get all the information you need um there are two points i want you to take away from this though
Starting point is 00:07:00 that i want you to be very clear on this does significant damage to the hillary team number one and number two it does significant damage to cohen the i at this point i believe super shady lawyer who is now was now we know is taping conversations with his client which is at at entirely unethical and if any of those conversations the one we've heard of course was in new york but if any of those additional tapes he alleges to have were Trump being taped in Florida, then that's illegal. What do you mean? This is important. The conversations shows like, what do you mean by that? In New York, with the tape we have that the media has that CNN's already played, other media outlets of Cohen taping Trump.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Again, entirely unethical, right? That happened in New York. New York is a one-party consent state. What does that mean? That means that if there are two people in the conversation, right? As long as one person consents to recording it, it is legal to do. So right now, if I
Starting point is 00:08:01 was, say, talking to Joe Armacost on the phone and I was in New York and he's in New York, this is important. Who is the one party that consents to taping? Well, if I tape it against Joe, I consent it. Why? Because I taped it. Right. So basically, in New York, folks, you can tape people as long as it's you and someone else on the phone without any legal consequences.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Are we clear on that? It's called a one-party consent state. any legal consequences are we clear on that it's called a one-party consent state you have to understand this to understand where cohen may you know could be liable with some other of these tapes he's purported to have got it okay if trump was in mar-a-lago in florida with these other tapes florida mar-a-lago is in florida where live. It's actually about 15 miles south of me. Florida is not a one-party consent state. It is a two-party consent state, meaning not only Cohen, but Trump would have to consent to being taped too.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That is a fact. Now, does he have tapes with Trump in Florida? I don't know. He may, he may not. I'm just suggesting to you if he does, he may have committed some kind of a crime if that were to happen. If he didn't, then he didn't commit a crime.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And because New York, again, is a one party consent state. If all the tapes were made in New York, he's fine. Now, why is this story work for the Trump team? And why do I think the Trump team may have leaked this? Number one, I think the Trump team has absolutely nothing to worry about. I think the Trump team understands completely there is no collusion. There was never any collusion. There is nothing to worry about. I think the Trump team understands completely. There is no collusion. There was never any collusion. There is nothing to hide here. This investigation's a joke. The Mueller investigation's a joke. Mueller's the tweet police now. Apparently,
Starting point is 00:09:34 if you saw the reports yesterday, Mueller's looking at the Trump's tweets. Yeah, exactly, Joe. That's all he is. We got the social media police. At first, it was Smokey Daniels. Now, he's looking into the tweet. I know the name is Stormy, whatever. Smokey, Smarmy, whatever you want. Smarmy Daniels, we get it. So now Trump's looking into, Mueller's looking into Trump's tweets and Smarmy. This is this big time investigation.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Looking into a former porn star and Trump's tweets. This is what we've been relegated to. Trump knows he has nothing. Leak this stuff or someone close would leak it. Knowing it's junk, it's going to be garbage anyway. There is no collusion. Leak it on the day that the GDP numbers come out where Trump is winning again
Starting point is 00:10:16 and it's going to go away because this works for them. This does not work for Mueller. Now, on angle number one, you're tracking me, Joe, how this story completely discredits the Clintons. It hurts them, doesn't hurt the Trump team. Donald Trump Jr. has already disclosed the information on this meeting.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Was it a bad idea? Yes, point stipulated. There are a lot of bad ideas in politics. Hillary running for president was a bad idea. It was the worst idea of all. That doesn't make the idea criminal. Don Trump Jr. has already disclosed the emails surrounding the meeting. Meet with these two Russians at Trump Tower.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They have some information on Hillary. They didn't have information on Hillary. End of story. Bad idea. Everybody moves on. The Democrats and the liberal media don't want to move on. But who were those two russians who were the two russians that showed up at the tower oh here we go dan bongino to the rescue
Starting point is 00:11:12 here for you again russian number two in the meeting we're gonna go into verse you you this is from an article the daily caller which will be in the show notes today. Please read it up on Gino dot com. It's an older article, but it is absolutely worth your time. One of the two people that shows up, the Russians at this meeting with Trump Tower. Oh, you say this makes Hillary look bad? Oh, yes, it does. Let me quote. The guy's name is Renaud Akhmetshin, right?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Renaud Akhmetshin told the senate judiciary committee on november 14th i knew clinton i knew some people who worked on her campaign oh you did oh wow oh that's fascinating so you show up to sound like a setup you show up to this trump tower meeting with this other russian lawyer alleging to have dirt on Hillary. But you knew Hillary and you knew people who worked in her campaign. Oh, here's another doozy. I mentioned a former Soviet military intelligence officer also said his attorney, Edward Lieberman, knows Clinton well. Matter of fact, Lieberman's late wife, Evelyn, was a close confidant of Hillary. Oh, oh, oh, how's that working out for how you like them apples?
Starting point is 00:12:34 How about that? How about that? How about that? How about that? So the dude who shows up for the Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr., which Don Jr. has completely disclosed the email surrounding it. Everybody acknowledges it was a bad idea. One of the Russians who's connected to military intelligence in Russia also acknowledges that his lawyer is a close confidant of the Clintons,
Starting point is 00:13:07 acknowledges, by the way, that he doesn't like Trump, and also says, oh, I knew the Clintons. I knew some people who worked in a campaign. Oh, how about that? Wow. Ladies and gents, again,
Starting point is 00:13:21 keep underestimating Donald Trump. I'm telling you, he is playing Mueller for the fool he is. This is a dead end. I think the Trump team wants this out there because this exposes what? Let me give you the two narratives, okay? Dopey Democrats, liberals, swamp rats, Mueller, and the anti-Trump Republicans are absolutely convinced that this meeting is the keys
Starting point is 00:13:47 to the kingdom. Look, two Russians showed up alleging to have information on Hillary. Ladies and gentlemen, that narrative is garbage. They brought nothing on Hillary. The people who showed up to the meeting were connected to the Clintons. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Starting point is 00:14:03 It doesn't expose collusion, Joe. It exposes the spying operation and the setup and the framing of Donald J. Trump. Do you think the Trump team is stupid? Folks, listen, I'm not one of these 4D chess guys. Every single thing Trump does all the time is 4D chess.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I've said to you repeatedly some things I think we could have done. I think the meeting was a bad idea. I think they'd all acknowledge that, but I'm telling you now this meeting is, will absolutely discredit the collusion narrative and only feeds the spy gate narrative. The Trump team's got to know this. The people who showed up for the meeting were connected to the Clintons.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Joe's dropped there. This is an obvious Frameruski. Dipsy-do Frameruski. And remember, new rules, new rules. We don't care about your narratives. We're ignoring your collusion nonsense. We are going in right now for the info, and we are going in to get
Starting point is 00:15:06 this thing and we're pulling this information out in a reconnaissance operation no matter what and this thing exposes the spying operation it doesn't expose any liability on the trump end no information was exchanged of any significance to hillary cl Clinton at all. At best, you have a bad decision. And I got to tell you, I don't care if Trump knew about it or not. I don't care. Oh my gosh, you don't care? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Now, if information would have been exchanged, they would have set up some collusion network with the Russians to work with. Yeah, then I would care. That's not what happened. Right? The meeting was a bad idea. Point stipulated whether Trump knew about it.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Okay. Bad idea. I don't care. New rules. We are going after you on Spygate. That's the story. That's the only story. Your collusion story is dead.
Starting point is 00:16:00 This meeting works for us, not for them. Their story is dead. There's no, there's no there there oh by the way that's the words of the lead investigator in the case peter stroker was actually investigating trump who texted that to his girlfriend there's no there there there's no there there that ladies and gentlemen please hear what i'm telling you collusion is dead it is as dead as a doornail there's nothing there listen to me please as a friend i love you to death i read your emails my wife reads them my daughter reads them i love my
Starting point is 00:16:32 audience you have made my life a pleasure every morning getting up doing this show which i adore trust me on this collusion is dead muller has. He is absolutely begging for something. He's down. This guy has lowered himself in the investigation to the point he's looking at Donald Trump's tweets. This is how humiliating this investigation is. Not for Trump, for Mueller. They're looking at the guy's tweets, his tweets. Are you serious? Okay okay let me rewind a little bit because i'm i want to be clear about what we're talking about i'm telling you that the leak of this story that michael cohen's ready to talk and he's ready to say that trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting between Don Trump Jr. and two Russians pre-election about, according to Don Jr.'s emails,
Starting point is 00:17:30 what was sent to him, alleged dirt on Hillary. The story in the past was that, according to the president, said he didn't know about it. The story now is Cohen's going to say he did know about it. I'm telling you, it doesn't matter. There was no information about Hillary exchange and the people that showed up were connected to hillary
Starting point is 00:17:47 the story does not work they don't get they are they're such suckers it is unbelievable i was laughing this morning on twitter i even sent out that tweet liberals today for the you know 1476 time or whatever we got him now oh yeah okay fellas yeah you got him now yeah nice job right well done approval rating keeps going up while you suckers keep focusing on a story nobody cares about but you so taking it back out again this story i believe works for the trump team i i listen i i don't deal with people and I do my own thing. I live and reside here in my studio these days. I want to be clear on this. I'm speculating 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I am. The Trump team may have, in fact, leaked some information. Because I think it works for them. Because one of the other stories out there is, oh, well, maybe the Mueller team leaked it to discredit the GDP information. No, the Mueller team would only leak it if this was, this is not damaging. This is nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:54 This is zip. Mueller's looking to hurt Trump. None of this hurts Trump at all. So number one, it discredits Clinton, this story, because the guy who shows up, one of the guys, is connected to the Clintons. The other person who shows up, the Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, right? Get a load of this from the Daily Caller piece. Please read it in the show notes so you have a grasp of what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:19:21 please read it in the show notes so you have a grasp of what's going on here the Russian lawyer shows up to meet with Don Jr. about this bizarre meeting this is funny from the Daily Caller piece in a bizarre twist it turns out that the Russian lawyer
Starting point is 00:19:37 Veselnitskaya's memo was put together by who? Oh Glenn Simpson the founder of Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the Steele dossier. Oh, isn't that special? How about that? So the one Russian, Russian number two,
Starting point is 00:19:55 you have thing one and thing two. Thing two that shows up, his lawyer, his wife, who's now passed, was connected closely to the Clintons. He says he doesn't like Trump and he knows the Clintons. Crazy how that happens. The actual Russian lawyer that shows up, the memo she turns up with,
Starting point is 00:20:12 was put together by Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, who was hired by the Clintons to dig up dirt on Trump. Folks, this case does not work at all for the anti-Trump resistance. I'm telling you, Trump wants this stuff out there because it makes them look like idiots. It confirms the whole Spygate narrative. The collusion narrative is dead.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Hear me out on that. It is dead as a doornail. There is no there there. When are we going to get him? No time soon, bud. No time bud no time soon i want to stay at your house tonight it's not gonna happen simpson this let me read this one this is interesting too glenn simpson this is from the daily caller piece simpson happened to be working with veselnitskaya the russian lawyer and akhmetian, the other Russian, Thing 2, to investigate Browder as part of an effort
Starting point is 00:21:05 to undermine the Magnitsky Act. In his testimony, Akhmetshin, who doesn't, now, this is Thing 2, who now, again, knows the Clintons and his lawyers connected to the Clintons, also says he's known Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS for more than a decade and has been a source for him
Starting point is 00:21:21 when Simpson worked at the Wall Street Journal. Guys, I mean, are we still falling for this? Are we still falling for... Joe, have we not made the case to you over six months that the scandal here, this is why this Mueller... The Mueller probe right now is almost working in Trump's behalf. Because I knew Mueller was going to try to find something, but I never thought he was going to try to find something entirely, completely ridiculous that would discredit him. Things like, in other words, looking at Trump's tweets. Mueller, I thought, was prouder than this.
Starting point is 00:21:54 This investigation is a total joke right now. It's a sham. And now the investigation is actually exposing things that damage the Obama administration's Spygate efforts and completely discredit this collusion narrative. It's a farce. Okay. So again,
Starting point is 00:22:14 point number one is I think this works for the Trump team. I would not be surprised at all. If someone in the Trump orbit called the media and said, Hey, listen, here's what Cohen's going to say. You know, and they'd be guessing. I mean, they don't know what he's going to say or not.
Starting point is 00:22:30 They're obviously not dealing with him anymore. But Cohen's going to say Trump knew about this because it doesn't matter. One, the case discredits Clinton. Number two, it discredits Cohen, too. Oh, it does? Take a little sip of coffee. You know, the first thing I thought when I heard this this morning was, so what? So what is right.
Starting point is 00:22:53 A big fat so what. Yeah, so what? Joe, can I read to you a tweet? Yeah, man. Would you mind? This is a tweet from January 9th of 2018. All right, babe. Babe, babe, babe babe who's this tweet by
Starting point is 00:23:06 verified blue check twitter account at michael cohen 212 oh oh michael cohen so let me get this straight the same lawyer that these press reports are alleging is now going to say don trump jr um don donald trump president trump knew about don Trump Jr.'s meeting with two Russians connected to Hillary and their opposition research firm. So, so he knew about Spygate in advance? Wow, crazy. But Cohen's going to say he knew. Really? Tweet Michael Cohen.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And I quote, enough is enough of the fake russian dossier i just filed a defamation action against buzzfeed news for publishing the lie the lie filled document on potus real donald trump and me wait what so let me hold on hold on let me let me dial this back a little bit because we're now we're we're in like again the Seinfeld episode where George does everything backwards and it works out for him we're we're almost in the other Seinfeld episode as well where uh I got hand I got hand this is like who has it Mueller does not have hand this is your star witness in the case joe did you did you pick up what i just put down on that yeah i did because your star witness in
Starting point is 00:24:33 the case trump's lawyer tweeted out on january 9 2018 it's on my twitter feed if you want to see the tweet yourself from his verified account this is not a joke it's not a spam your star witness sued buzzfeed over what he's calling a lie filled document about donald trump the president the document by the way which was the entire basis for the investigation of donald trump and the special counsel investigation oh put this dude on the stand tomorrow please mr cohen um do you agree with your tweet on january 9th of 2018 that buzzfeed produced a lie filled document on potus were you lying then or are you lying now no i was lying then no i'm lying now i mean i was lying now about lying then about now and then oh how about that mr cohen which story exactly is true the lawsuit against buzzfeed claiming that
Starting point is 00:25:30 the entire basis for the investigation you're saying now is real is false or is it false now about the false lawsuit about falsity and the false lies about the um yes maybe option x there's no option x sir folks please i put there's another article in the show notes in the guardian please it's an older article you have to read these articles today because they will entirely discredit your liberal friends your liberal friends think michael cohen right now is their new superhero. He's their new guy. Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, is going to take down the whole operation. He's going to prove the dossier is real.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Let me read this to you one more time. Just filed a defamation action against BuzzFeed News for publishing the lie-filled document on POTUS. Wow! He's going to be a real star witness, isn't he? The guy didn't only say that the dossier is a lie. He actually filed a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I have an article in The Guardian, a left-leaning outlet, about his lawsuit against BuzzFeed for the, quote, lie-filled document. Mr. Cohen, was that tweet true? That tweet was false. So what you're saying now is true, and that was a lie. Yes, this is now true. Those were lies. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yes, this guy is a star witness. This is what's hysterical. That's why I can't stop laughing at the libs. Guys, ladies, nobody cares about this Russia thing anymore at all, number one. Number two, do you understand they have nothing? This is complete garbage. This is your star witness. This is the best you've got.
Starting point is 00:27:06 A lawyer connected to Trump who actually filed a lawsuit saying the whole thing is garbage. Harvey Birdman, attorney at law. That's good. You, you. I was watching Goodfellas last night. I tell you, I can't get enough of that movie. Even though Bob De Niro has Lost His Mind is in it, it is still funny. And that's, of course,
Starting point is 00:27:27 where the epic Bing Pow Boom came from. Bing Pow Boom! I love that line. He's talking about how the cops roughed him up, Joe Pesci. The line actually is pretty vulgar. We can't play the line. You know the line I'm talking about, right? I told him to go, and I turned up and I said,
Starting point is 00:27:44 I told you to go and i turned up and i said what are you where i told you to go bing pow boom folks don't worry about this don't sweat it let your friends spin their wheels we got them now yeah all right whatevs you got You got nothing. I'm absolutely convinced Trump's playing these idiots for fools. All right, so next story I wanted to get. Wait, I don't want to repeat. Just to sum up quick so you don't lose anything. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:15 The story about Cohen and the Trump Tower meeting works for the Trump team. It works for the Trump team because the people that showed up to the meeting were connected to the Clintons and opposition research people hired by the Clintons. You already heard that. Number two, it completely discredits Cohen as well, because if Cohen's now going to say that this was some kind of sophisticated operation, that the dossier is now true, that the Trump team was colluding. He's already on record in tweets and a public lawsuit saying the dossier is false.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He can't have it both ways this story works for them it discredits both of them that's all i wanted to get to okay um i want to move on because yesterday i said i was going to get to this quick recap piece that molly hemingway did which was genius which was in the show notes yesterday about how the media is in a corner now too because they can't dial back their promotion of the collusion story and it's actually their promotion of the collusion story which is now hurting them in the spygate investigation here's what i mean by this because i want to be crystal clear on this this has been a real core base component of the show for the last few weeks there are two narratives out there one
Starting point is 00:29:21 is the democrat narrative the other is the narrative, which actually does significant harm to the Democrats. Narrative number one, Trump colluded with the Russians. Narrative number two, the Obama administration colluded with itself and the Hillary team to spy on the Trump team. The collusion narrative is entirely debunked. It's false. The liberals, they want to keep it alive to damage Trump. The problem is the more they keep it alive, the more they keep promoting, whether they know it or not, the damage to the Obama administration over, in fact, the spying operation. And I'll tie it in in a second. Let me just read this because it's important.
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Starting point is 00:31:19 So, Molly Hemingway, I put that piece again from The Federalist in today's show notes. I rarely repeat them, but it is worth your time because it makes a point I've been making for a long time now to you. I'm not taking, by the way, I hate when I say, because it sounds like I'm taking credit for it. I'm not. A lot of people will put this out there. But you have to remember, and sometimes we have to move out, Joe, and recap where we
Starting point is 00:31:39 are and where we've been. Yeah. You have to remember where this all started. Because when you understand where it all started, a lot of the confusion in the case makes sense by the confusion i mean this there are multiple articles um if you google bongino.com obamagate files you will see a litany of articles on my website where the media was actively promoting the spying operation on Donald Trump. British intelligence passing information, John Brennan meeting at the, you know, the principal's level with foreign intelligence to pass off information on the Trump team.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Now, by confusion, I mean, a lot of you are confused because I get the emails and you say, well, Dan, why would CNN and The Guardian, a left-leaning outlet, report on such a pernicious, dangerous spying operation knowing later on that the spying operation could be exposed? Folks, you're reading this all wrong. This goes all the way back to 628, the famous episode number 628 of ours, the most listened to episode ever. Folks, at the time, view it through the lens of what was going on at the time the media actually believed back then they believed that trump was actually colluding with the russians why did they believe that do Do you remember Ben Rhodes, the former Obama administration storyteller? He was a national security official in the Obama administration,
Starting point is 00:33:13 Ben Rhodes. Ben, who's famous for saying that they could spin the media and they don't know anything. He gave that interview, that infamous interview where, oh, we're so good at spinning the media. We can tell them basically fairy tales and they'll believe whatever because they don't know anything that was ben rose that was an obama person right ben rhodes and them always understood that they could feed a fake narrative to the media i mean he almost acknowledges that in fact that they don't know anything they don't know how to vet information back at the time ladies and gentlemen right around the time hillary saw that they you know this is post-election now that the groundwork for the russian collusion fake narrative had been laid
Starting point is 00:33:51 before the election but after the election and in the transition period hillary needs right away and the obama team needs an excuse so the excuse becomes well we didn't really lose trump colluded with the russians to win the election right so their national security officials inside the obama administration intelligence officials start leaking to the media you know wow listen hey listen trump may have colluded with the russians now these suckers in the media who don't do their due diligence on it start reporting these stories they start reporting these stories they start reporting these stories thinking what joe thinking that if they're true right thinking okay well the big story here is not going to be a spying up like no one in the media goes well how do you know that
Starting point is 00:34:34 well we were spying on trump wait wait what right joe like you were spying on the trump like that's the story you would think some inquisitive mind in the media at some point folks would have said uh folks how do you have this information well we were spying on him in conjunction with foreign intelligence uh isn't that the story no one asked that they took it face value that trump was colluding with the russians and didn't bother to ask the hard questions if you go to the obamagate file section my my website, you will see a number of reports. The most important, which highlights this whole thing,
Starting point is 00:35:09 and this is critical here, is a, this was in April of 2017. So this is after the election. But this goes to show the information exchange that was going on. Here's a headline from CNN Politics. This is CNN, by the way. This is not Fox. This is not Breitbart. This is CNN. British intelligence passed Trump associates communications
Starting point is 00:35:32 with the Russians on to U.S. counterparts. Some source clearly fed to the CNN team, Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown, and Eric Bradner. By the way, this article is still up there. It's on the Obamagate files. You can read it yourself. Clearly lays out the fact that foreign intelligence was interfering in a U.S. election to, quote, pass Trump associates' communications with Russians on to U.S. counterparts. The fact that they're British does not make them any less foreign.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Now, they are friendlies. The Russians aren't. But now, in my book, by the way, it'll make a lot of sense, the motive here. I can't talk about it just yet. But when the book comes out, we're looking at early, early October. It should be on Amazon soon. I'll let you know. But the motive here will make sense.
Starting point is 00:36:21 But they are a foreign government. And it's clear from this piece there is some interference in our u.s election here the reason cnn reported this right after the inaugurations because they probably believed it was true they believed story number one remember i told you two narratives he colludeduded with the Russians, which is false. And the second narrative, the Obama team spy. I don't think they ever thought that the spying narrative was going to overtake the collusion narrative in importance. They thought they'd have this guy impeached by now.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So they reported this story never thinking their own stories were going to be used as ammo later on. BuzzFeed in January of 2017, or in that critical transition period, BuzzFeed reports the dossier. BuzzFeed puts the dossier out there. The fake dossier that Michael Cohen, their star witness, has already acknowledged in a tweet as a quote,
Starting point is 00:37:19 lie-filled document. Are you getting how their entire case is, it's a house made of sand the waves come and wash the whole thing away yeah buzzfeed publishes the dirty dossier that the clinton team paid for clapper obama's dni who's now backtracking if you listen to the show the other day oh clapper basically to Anderson Cooper, throw Obama under the bus. He wouldn't have started without Obama. Clapper knows he's in a world of trouble.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Obama's former director of national intelligence. This is critical. Clapper suggested Jim Comey, the FBI director, that they go and brief Donald Trump on components of the dossier. CNN then leads us because CNN can't report on the dossier because it's, it's fake. They can't verify it, but they want the information out there. So what better way to do it than to let a place with lax journalistic
Starting point is 00:38:18 standards like Bud Buzzfeed actually published the dossier, which is unverified and salacious in the FBI's own words, by the way, Jim Comey's own words. Now, CNN can't report on that, but CNN can report on the fact that Jim Comey goes up to Trump and briefs him on the dossier. Oh, we got a story now.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We got a story now. Now we can mention the dossier because we're really talking about, Joe, wink and a nod, we're talking about the briefing, mention the dossier because we're really talking about Joe. Wink and a nod. We're talking about the briefing, not the dossier. And now everybody goes, there's a dossier? Let me see. Oh, BuzzFeed has it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Clapper told Comey to go. I think this is why Clapper knows he's in a world of trouble. Clapper's leaks to the media. Clapper's misstatements about leaks to the media the media too where he's tried to backtrack his story about talking to cnn or not his financial arrangement with left-leaning news leaning news outlets now these in a world of trouble clapper clapper has got to somehow throw obama under the bus because do you see where i'm going with this folks the russian collusion thing was a hoax from the start it's not the hoax part that's
Starting point is 00:39:25 going to get them in legal trouble it's the leaks to the media about the hoax that's what's going to get them in trouble and the fact that the media played a role in this i have to believe folks i have to believe that the media oh they're die hard leftists but the media is probably a bit upset about this too. You may say, come on, Dan. I'm not saying they like, don't misinterpret what I'm saying. But the media does want to maintain some modicum of credibility. All of these leaks to the media, folks, about the dossier and British intelligence and all this stuff and how serious this collusion case was.
Starting point is 00:40:05 The media people now have to realize their own words are going to be used against them in the Spygate case. They were played like fiddles. When the Trump operation, when the Department of Justice and the investigators finally get to the bottom of this, how is CNN going to backtrack on this April 14, 2017 article? Were you working with foreign intelligence to pass
Starting point is 00:40:25 information off about the Trump team on collusion that never happened no no we weren't really because let me read your headline British intelligence passed Trump associates communications with Russians onto U.S. counterparts uh did you retract that story um no we didn't why haven't you retracted it because it's true oh it is true they did spy on Trump with foreign intelligence do you see where I'm going with this this is why Claapper's in a panic because the collusion narrative is crap it's falling apart the media was played the media was fed stories believing the collusion narrative was true the stories they were fed actually buttressed the spy gate story not the collusion story the headline alone tells the story and molly hemingway's piece is great because it goes back to this recap.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And she says, listen, sometimes we got to pull this out because it's a confusing story to 30,000 feet and explain what the media's role in this was. The media were played for fools, for darn fools, for suckers. Now the information is going to be used against them. Buzzfeed probably believed the dossier was true. That's probably why they published it. Now we have the star witness in the collusion case saying the dossier was false.
Starting point is 00:41:36 The whole collusion case is based on the dossier. There's star witness who's a lawyer, by the way, a lawyer you think would know the legal consequences filed the defamation lawsuit saying that the whole case is crap because it's based on the dossier this is your star witness oh my gosh are these it's just comical it's just comical listening and watching these liberals celebrate michael cohen he's our new hero this guy's already said the whole case is crap he filed a lawsuit on it he's a lawyer this is the best you've got the media's own reporting on this case buttress is the spy gate the spy scandal
Starting point is 00:42:21 it does the collusion narrative is garbage. The FBI itself has said the document the thing was based on. So now, Joe, just to be clear on the dossier. So the dossier, Trump did this, Trump did that, Trump colluded with the Russians. That's their whole case. We know this from the FISA application. That's their whole case, right? Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:45 The FBI has said it's salacious and unverified, according to jim comey the number two said they'd have no case without it the number three in the case price step the head of counterintelligence said they verified it at its its infancy the verification process was the number four in the case the lead investigator says there's no there there and your lead witness in the case on the dossier calls it a lie-filled document. Winner, winner. That sounds like a winner to me, Joe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Shaggy. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Are you people that sloppy? If I had a case, Joe, against you, say I'm back in the Secret Service. Yeah, brother. I have a felonious mopery case against Joe Armacost. I have a document, a signed document, intelligence about Joe's involvement in felonious mopery.
Starting point is 00:43:31 My lead witness about the document says the document on the record is a lie filled document. The, the lead investigator in the case says the document is salacious and unverified documenting Joe's felonious mopery. The number two says we would have no case for felonious mopery without the document that our number one said salacious is unverified. And our lead witness calls it lie filled. The head of the division investigating the case, when asked about verifying the felonious mopery document, says, oh, it's only in its infancy, our verification process. Take that,
Starting point is 00:44:06 copper. And the lead investigator in the felonious Mopri case against Joe tweets his girlfriend and says, hey, there's no there there. Oh, yeah. Joe, you're nailed, buddy. Oh, they got you. Yeah. Oh, my God. Are you people that do that? Are you that
Starting point is 00:44:21 duped that easily? Jeez, Louise. You understand Mueller has nothing? That's why they're down to an obstruction charge on his tweets. Oh, that's a real winner there, Bob. You got a real gem there. Now we're analyzing the guy's social media. He's obstructing justice so fully and cryptically,
Starting point is 00:44:40 he's tweeting it out to 52 million followers. Oh my, I mean, this is outrageous. This is so dumb. Alright. I got a couple other things I want to get. It's just so frustrating. I can't believe how easily people are duped. I'm enjoying watching liberals. I hate shouting fraud, but this morning
Starting point is 00:44:57 it's been comical watching liberals. I'm glad you went back and I bet a lot of the listeners are too. You need to once in a while. I'm glad you went back with Molly there a lot of the listeners are too because you need to once in a while I'm glad you went back with Molly there I think we just nailed it the dossier story is fake the meeting story works for the Trump team
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Starting point is 00:48:22 We don't care about Smokey Daniels. We don't care about the Karen McDougal thing. We don't care. We care about winning. Winning, winning, winning. Winning matters now, and we're winning. The GDP numbers were extraordinary. I did get a couple of questions, though. A couple of folks emailed me yesterday and said,
Starting point is 00:48:38 hey, how are these GDP numbers going to affect the debt? What is it going to take? Put them in context. Okay, 4.1% is a great number. Now, again, I do facts here. affect the debt what is it going to take put them in context okay 4.1 is a great number now again i do facts here the obama administration has had quarters because this was a quarterly measure folks quarterly for liberals that means every three months where you know a month has the year has 12 months i'm i'm sad we have that we have to do basic math on the show but liberals seem to
Starting point is 00:49:03 have a difficult time with this um to be fair the the Obama administration, I hate to say to be fair, just to be accurate. The Obama administration did have quarters at 4% or better. They did not have a year, an annual GDP count over 3%. He's the first president in modern U.S. history to not do that, Barack Obama. In other words, he failed to meet a growth metric that every president before him had done. And at least one year. He has had quarters.
Starting point is 00:49:31 This is where the liberals will try to screw you up. They'll say, well, Obama, look at Obama. You know, Obama had a quarter over 4% too. Yes, but he never had a year over 3%. Never had a year. By the way, the last quarter GDP Barack Obama handed Donald Trump was 1.9%. The last quarter was 2.2% for us, and this quarter was 4.1%. This is a huge number. I'm waiting for the annual numbers. I want to see what the next quarter and the following quarter look like, but I'm telling you the annual numbers. I want to see what the next quarter and the following quarter look like. But I'm telling you the tax cuts are starting to filter through the economy,
Starting point is 00:50:10 the deregulations efforts, and Trumponomics is working. We know Obamanomics was a failure. I just told you. He is the first president in modern U.S. history to never reach a growth mark, 3% annually, that every president before him did. The failure of Obamanomics is just legendary in a bad way now having said that some people said to me what kind of growth numbers we need to make an impact on the debt folks we would have to really write this government spending's out of
Starting point is 00:50:37 control if you were to hit annually which and this is this hasn't happened in a very, very long time. If we were to hit about 6%, 6% annually, if we did that for 10 years, we could grow the economy, we could double the economy, almost. About 6% annually. We're only at 4% per quarter. I say that not to put it down,
Starting point is 00:51:03 or the numbers are terrific. I did the whole show yesterday about how we're winning or the numbers are terrific. I did the whole show yesterday about how we're winning. The numbers are great. I think the numbers are only going to get better from here with this tariff reform package with the EU. I'm just trying to tell you to put everything in perspective because you asked. We would have to hit about six percent annually over an extended period of time to grow double the economy. Now you say, well, how does that impact the debt? Right now we owe everything our economy is worth. We owe about $20 trillion. The economy produces an output every year, about $20 trillion. So in order for us to basically have, it would be the equivalent of Joe
Starting point is 00:51:36 earning $100,000 and owing $100,000. To make the impact of Joe owing $100,000 less, there are two ways to do it. Joe could pay down his debt, and then it's worth less. He could pay $100,000 less, there are two ways to do it. Joe could have someone, you know, Joe could pay down his debt and then it's worth less. He could pay $50,000 down, he only owes $50,000. Or Joe could grow his income
Starting point is 00:51:51 making the paying down of the debt easier. You follow, folks? If Joe makes $100,000 and owes $100,000, that's pretty devastating debt. If Joe makes $200,000 and earns $100,000, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:52:01 it's not that bad anymore. Right. If we were to hit 6%, which we did under one of the Reagan years, if we were to hit that over 10 years and we did a full-blown commitment to GDP growth, again, I'm not suggesting this would be easy. It would be almost unprecedented. But we could have our debt if we put a cap on spending just by growing out of it by doubling our GDP to $40 trillion in 10 years, roughly.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Basically, it would require 7%, but 7% would be tough. Six, we've done before. So I just want to put the numbers in perspective. But having said that, this was a great number. It's going to be great for jobs. I'm not trying to downplay this at all. As a matter of fact, the number is extremely, extremely important. So great number, great press conference by Trump. He put it out there he had the vice president with him i'm glad he's talking about the economy because i'm telling you americans don't care new rules sorry folks got cables all over the place here my new studio we're still working out all the uh you leave that image i don't do too many we don't want to do too many edits i'm trying to get i've been killing poor joe over the past few days we try to get the show out before noon
Starting point is 00:53:04 eastern time but sometimes just so you get a little behind the scenes here yeah when we're I'm trying to get, I've been killing poor Joe over the past few days. We try to get the show out before noon Eastern time. But sometimes, just so you get a little behind the scenes here, when we're recording, like yesterday in a spot sometimes, we'll trip over stuff. I don't mean trip physically. So I got, poor Joe has to edit it. It takes forever. So that's my fault.
Starting point is 00:53:18 But we're trying today our hardest. Okay, another piece I'll have up in the show notes today, which I highly recommend. Now, I can't be entirely objective about this uh because it's on my website uh it's at bongino.com but matt palumbo did a great piece about four crazy alexandria oquesio cortez ideas uh she is the socialist from new york congressional district uh 14 believe where uh she's the new darling of the liberal left trying to advance and advocate for socialist ideas but the sad thing is she doesn't seem to know much about economics uh foreign policy or much else which is quite upsetting uh but she's out there
Starting point is 00:53:55 and she's the new darling of the left so she's put out a couple of her economic ideas which our researcher matt palumbo was kind enough to entirely and completely debunk at his new piece, which basically says four crazy Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ideas. Idea number one are statements about the unemployment rate, which I've debunked before, but I'll just quickly address again, where she said in the interview with Margaret Hoover and Firing Line that the unemployment rate was low because people are working two jobs. Oh, I'm dumber for having even talked about this. line that the unemployment rate was low because people are working two jobs. I'm dumber for having even talked about this.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I've already lost 10 IQ points addressing this issue. Folks, as Matt points out, reading the piece, asking people if they're employed while analyzing the unemployment rate is a binary question, Joe. It is yes or no. It is not, are you unemployed with two jobs, 10 jobs, or 100 jobs? It's, are you employed? The fact that people have two jobs or not, which by the way, we're at 4.8% of the workforce working two jobs, which is the lowest it's been in decades. That fact is entirely debunked that record numbers of people, whatever, are working two jobs. That's just not true um but it doesn't matter the unemployment rate is calculated by asking people are you working or not
Starting point is 00:55:09 not how many jobs so again i don't even want to talk about it because we're all dumber for having addressed this stupid point and her having brought it up but matt does hit it in the piece so you have some ammunition for your friends point number two she talks about a federal job guarantee why wait what a federal job in other Wait, what? A federal job. In other words, if you're out of work, the federal government will guarantee you employment with a federal government job. Yes, yes, that's what we need.
Starting point is 00:55:32 More federal government jobs where people will have absolute job security and never leave the public workforce. Ladies and gentlemen, that is an atrocious, horrible... Chuckie jumps in, of course. That's how bad that was that is the worst idea i've ever heard taxpayers paying people to exit what could be a free market private sector job to work for the government on a permanent job because you'll never be fired with a government
Starting point is 00:56:01 pension forever horrible horrible idea no thank you matt goes into some numbers on that too third her assault weapons ban we need to ban assault weapons ladies and gentlemen the department of justice's own analysis of the clinton era assault weapons ban in 1994 showed that it had almost no connection whatsoever that was statistically verifiable to a reduction in gun violence. This is the Department of Justice's own study. It didn't work. Just listen to their words. It didn't work. Matt does a pretty thorough breakdown of this. This is a nonsense talking point your friends we need an assault weapons ban really because the bill clinton uh department of justice at the time already said that the
Starting point is 00:56:51 assault weapons ban didn't work but we need to try it again no no thanks we're good finally one of our other points housing joe housing it's a right this is a human right housing listen declaring let me just explain this to you first this isn't a match piece this is my own personal take on this well it's actually milton friedman's but it's worth putting out there folks when your liberal friends start declaring things rights i want you to explain to them that rights are really declarations of obligations not rights and what i mean by that is if you declare of food you say let's do something simple forget about housing for a minute look let's look at something like food food's critical i mean how many days can
Starting point is 00:57:37 you really go without food a couple weeks before you're uh it's a it's your it's it's bye-bye time, you may say food is a human right. Well, what's the obligation on someone else? I'm not talking about the moral obligation. If you declare food a human right, a right, a legal right, and you enshrine that, that confers an obligation on someone else. In other words, if Joe's a farmer
Starting point is 00:58:04 and I have the right to food let's ask the practical question unlike liberals who never ask practical questions they just ask theoretical questions if it's declared a right can i walk on joe's farm start taking oranges off his trees ripping carrots out of the ground and say wait wait wait what are you doing sir what do you mean what am i doing it's my right food is my right what do you it's your right i work for this is our food for our family no no no it's my food it's my right do you mean, what am I doing? It's my right. Food is my right. It's your right. I work for this. This is our food for our family. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It's my food. It's my right. Do you understand how liberals never think past point one? Well, once you did point one, food is a right. If food is a right, then what's the obligation on others? Listen, I'm not talking about the moral obligation. A lot of us are spiritual and religious folks who believe it is a moral obligation to make sure people don't starve to death and i stand by that yeah i'm talking about complicated legal questions when you declare a right to housing what does that mean
Starting point is 00:58:55 does that mean that a construction company has an obligation to build you a house for free what about the construction worker working to feed his own family does he even get paid no he doesn't get paid why because he's got to work for free because housing's all right well that's not what we really meant no that's what you meant declaring things are right does not make the economic hardship of declaring something an obligation on someone else go away now matt makes a terrific point joe in the piece piece. The South African Constitution has a right to housing enshrined in its constitution. So, Joe, according to liberals, oh, if it's a right, then housing problems must have went away, right? I'm sure they did.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah, of course. Of course they did, Joe. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Folks, one-fifth of South Africa's population lacks adequate housing. How is that? It's a right enshrined in the Constitution because it doesn't take away the economic obligation of someone else. Nobody's going to build you a house, farm for you,
Starting point is 01:00:01 feed you and clothe you for free. They're just not going to do it in mass. That's not the way it works. There are people who will donate their time, their charity. Thankfully it happens now. But as a legal policy, declaring something an economic right does nothing to make the economic hardship of producing it for someone else go away. Nothing. of producing it for someone else, go away. Nothing. One of these days, liberals will get that.
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