The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 800 The Entire Plot Exposed
Episode Date: September 5, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the horrifying episode we all witnessed yesterday at the Capitol Hill Kavanaugh hearings. I also break down the entire anti-Trump scheme, how it worked, and a new pi...ece of information that should trouble every American. News Picks: Jeff Carlson’s piece addresses the deeply troubling revelation that Nellie Ohr was working for Fusion GPS as far back as 2015. This older piece by Jeff Carlson lays bare the timeline of FISA process abuses. Who is Stefan Halper and why does it matter to you? Is Bob Mueller planning an October surprise? Three takeaways from yesterday’s Kavanaugh hearing. Just when you think liberals have reached peak stupid, they prove you wrong. No, the “okay” symbol isn’t a white power symbol. Why is Levi’s jeans supporting gun control? Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today episode 800
what was that you off there right i said hey i threw you off there didn't i i'm usually like
producer joe how are you today you were so expecting it to end with today when i said
on episode 800 you didn't know what to do. That's right.
Right?
Yeah.
Your brain processed a completely different set of information.
Episode 800.
It's really not episode 800 though, because Joe and I had recorded some episodes in the
beginning.
Remember?
And they got taken down.
Yes.
Remember that?
And we were like, darn.
So it's probably episode 801 or 802.
But either way, thanks for all the support you guys and ladies out there are awesome.
Listen, I've got a tremendous show for you today. Some information came out yesterday and it's
finally all coming together. So I'm going to quickly get to some stuff from a recap from
Kavanaugh yesterday, the disgrace that happened up on the hill and the Kavanaugh hearings,
poor guy trying to get his hearing done, people yelling and screaming like kids.
And then I want to get into some just incredible incredible new information uh please don't go anywhere i promise you're gonna love this show
i'm gonna guess it's gonna be our most listened to ever i'm just saying uh let's get right to it
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get ready folks strap in babe as joe would say so yesterday's kavanaugh hearing just quickly was a
total uh abomination a disgrace to humankind uh regardless of where you stand on kavanaugh i i
like the nominee uh the the histrionics up on capitol hill with all of the protesters screaming
and yelling how the democrats think this helps their cause, I, Joe, genuinely don't know. I'm sure it helps your cause
with the snowflakes, with the Media Matters crowd, with the Antifa thugs, street savages beating the
snot out of everyone, and the radical far-left kooky donors who send donations to Ocasio-Cortez
and this lady who just won the primary in Massachusetts
against Capuano, this lady Finley,
who these far leftists, I'm sure that helps.
But how you were going to explain to me
how moderate, working class, heartland living Americans
are turned on by the idea of a bunch of protesters
showing up at a Supreme Court nomination,
confirmation hearing up on Capitol Hill, screaming like a bunch of idiots
while a bunch of U.S. senators try and shut down the hearing before it starts.
How you think that appeals to them, I'm genuinely not sure.
Ain't happening.
No, it isn't happening.
Now, I don't want to spend a lot of time on that because if I don't feel like I have anything
substantive to add other than complaining a bit, I'm going to let that go.
But something did happen yesterday, which describes how just when we Joe
just when we think we've reached peak stupid yes um we have not reached peak stupid apparently Joe
no no we haven't so I know you were all excited you were like yes peak stupid has been reached
we have not we are in a black hole an intellectual vacuum of stupidity uh that never stops a woman who is a lawyer who has uh
helped advance along the kavanaugh nomination confirmation process a woman by the name of
xena bash is sitting behind kavanaugh she's here right now at the hearing today as well
xena bash is resting her hands on her arms and at that angle that she's resting it looks like
she's making the okay sign as you
know okay like hey it's a okay you know when they do that joe now joe let me ask you i'm not messing
with you i'm going to show you the okay sign what does that mean to you that means okay
no what else does it mean nothing this no come on what else does it mean you don't know means okay
no no joe come on what else does it mean? You don't know? It means okay. No, no, Joe, come on. What else does that mean?
Is it something dirty?
I'm setting him up on purpose because I know I did not co-ordinate Joe.
I did not mention this to you before the show.
You're not faking ignorance here, right?
No, I'm genuinely ignorant here.
This means nothing to you other than okay, right?
I'm making this circle with my index finger and my thumb, but that means okay to you.
Joe, don't ever make that symbol again. You a white supremacist did you know that yes apparently
that symbol means white power oh come on no dude listen dude the what I have an article up at
twitchy check it out in the show notes because I this this this silly, outrageously ignorant lady, Amy Siskind on Twitter,
she's since deleted the tweet realizing how stupid it was,
tweeted, oh my gosh, this lady Xena Bash is making a white power symbol.
Yeah, I know.
Now, because liberals are really dumb, a lot of them, not all of them,
but a good majority are really stupid, this spread virally.
A lot of them, not all of them, but a good majority are really stupid.
This spread virally.
The lady, Joe, apparently her mother is Mexican and her grandparents were Polish and had escaped Polish death camps from the Nazis. So, yeah, she's a likely advocate for a white supremacist.
I mean, if you're a moron, of course, which a lot of liberals are.
This thing spread virally.
thing spread virally the husband who was a united states attorney had to rebuke the idiots spreading this imbecilic less than zero stupid nonsense yesterday on the internet that this woman was a
white supremacist because she was resting her hands on her lap folks this is the stupid we live in
we live in a cesspool an ether of stupid on the left that will never, ever dissipate.
You have to be prepared.
I'm warning you right now.
New rules, folks.
New rules.
We win.
They lose.
The old rules of civility are out the window.
I'm telling you, do not buy into this never Trump argument that, oh, we have to show them
what this high ground is.
No, there is no high ground, folks.
They're boxing with brass knuckles while you have 20 ounce gloves.
When people go on the Internet and social media like this Siskin lady did and tweet
this nonsense, it is up to us to fire back nuclear level bombs immediately and humiliate
these people.
We cannot let this woman's reputation be ruined because she chose to rest her hands on her lap
on a confirmation hearing.
She was actually accused by these idiots
of using a white power symbol.
Now, to completely discredit
these far-left, loony-tuned psychopaths,
I actually put another link below the twitchy piece.
And the other link, Joe, is from the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League,
which is not a conservative-leaning outlet by any stretch.
No.
Showing how, Joe, the OK sign means OK.
OK.
The ADL has a lengthy piece on how this is not a white power symbol, you idiots.
the piece on how this is not a white power symbol you idiots this was a scam on 4chan meant to get liberals baited in to an argument about i'm not explaining this right 4chan which
is a it's a site where people go on and can post stuff freely it's a you know it's it's an open
posting board i'm not really i i'm speaking kind i've been there once or twice but i i've never really i'm not really deeply familiar with it so forgive me
i'm just going by what the adl says you can read the piece here i'm citing the adl for a reason
again because this is not a conservative outlet defending this it's an older piece too apparently
it was a scam on 4chan like hey anybody using the ok symbol uh it means they're a white supremacist it was
meant as a scam to bait in liberals to accuse everybody who makes it by the way which is
everyone everybody does that simple it was a way to bait them for making baseless accusations that
people were white supremacists to humiliate them was a scam the whole time unfortunately this silly
lady on twitter yesterday fell right into the scam
and humiliated herself and everybody else.
Now, hat tip to some, you know,
even left-leaning media figures
and they describe who they are on the Twitchy piece
who said, listen, it's time for this nonsense to stop.
This lady now is probably going to get death threats
and threats on the internet
for being a white supremacist,
for doing nothing than resting her hands on on her lap it's disgusting what happened
to her absolutely filthy and disgusting okay i'm debating how to proceed here because i don't want
to stop um let me just go with it because we have so. Yeah, best thing to do, just go. Just go. Yeah. Okay.
Folks, it's all coming together now.
Now, I was debating releasing some of this information until after my book, it's called
Spygate, comes out on October 9th.
I was debating it because I just didn't want to put it out yet let me leave it at that there's other
reasons but i'm not at liberty to tell you what they are right now but i think it's becoming clear
right now uh based on the gravity of the situation that even if it may impact some of the revelations
in the book which describe this in further detail that this isn't about money or book sales to me
um and though again there's some substantial reasons substantial reasons why it's important for me to get this story out.
What happened is becoming clear and a key piece of information in the operation to take
down the Trump team.
A piece of information was released yesterday that makes this all even that much more disturbing.
Let me get right to it.
We found out yesterday uh and well we shouldn't find out yesterday we found out that in the last few days i should say i was waiting on it to make sure it was confirmed from multiple sources
that bruce or in the department of justice apparently had revealed at some point that
his wife nelly or may have been working working for Fusion GPS as far back as 2015.
Folks, that is not a small piece of information.
That's not an incidental piece of information.
This is a major league breakthrough in this entire operation.
Now, I want you to keep that in mind.
Keep that little fact in mind as I now break, because it's going to play in why I'm going to do this now,
why the whole thing was exposed, and how they did what they did to Donald Trump. That piece of information
is mind blowing if you know what to look for and you remember the names. Nellie Orr, the wife of
Bruce Orr, a senior level Department of Justice official who speaks Russian, was hired by a
company that was later hired by the Clinton team
to take the Trump team down as far back as 2015.
Keep that fact, Joe, in the back of your head.
Because this is some information we did not know.
We suspected it.
A lot of people did.
But they did not know.
The information we had up until a few days ago
was that Orr was hired later on by Fusion GPS.
Later on in 2016, 2017, that's the kind of time frame.
The fact that she was working for them back to 2015 is going to play big in what I'm about to tell you.
Here's how this whole plan went down.
And you know what's fascinating, Joe?
This kind of goes back to 628.
Amazingly, we're back to where we started.
I'm going to let you roll on this, dude.
I'm not going to jump in too much.
Do your thing.
It's becoming clear now at the DOJ and FBI
that they were all in on this anti-Trump effort
from the beginning.
There were two plans here, folks.
There was a plan A.
The plan A got interrupted, and then they had to move to plan
b let me describe to you what plan a was now keep in mind they didn't know there was going to be a
plan b because plan a was supposed to be the plan the fact that it was interrupted they moved
seamlessly and the fusion angle will make sense in a minute but plan a was this the doj and fbi DOJ and FBI is all in on the anti-Trump effort. It's clear now that they had access.
The FBI and private contractors had access to the NSA database.
And that access was being abused for a long time.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is significant.
This is a really mind-blowing revelation, which we've had for a while.
And a lot of this stuff is
in the book but think about what i'm telling you the nsa has a database of downstream upstream
information metadata collection on emails phone communiques that is just an astonishing compilation
of the data on everyday americans now that that NSA data is supposed to be used to
target foreign persons and U.S. persons only under very specific controlled minimization procedures.
The FBI that has access, imagine the data on all of your emails, right?
Imagine, think about what I'm telling you here, the power here.
In a stunning revelation,
again, I told you this is far back as 628,
in a stunning revelation,
in an April 26, 2017,
FISA court ruling,
that's now public, you can see it,
and it is in a link in one of the stories in the show notes
that I have from Jeff Carlson.
The links are in there
to this April 26, 2017, FISA ruling.
In a response
to Mike Rogers
from the NSA
and his complaints
about abuses of the system,
this April 26, 2017
FISA ruling
has some just
astonishing information.
Don't forget
the Nellie Orr thing.
It says
that up to 85% of the queries of this massive email and phone record database the NSA has,
and you're in it, whether you like it or not.
Joe, up to 85% of them were non-compliant with minimization procedures.
Meaning people are querying this NSA database, searching it for things that are not in 85% of the searches.
out of 100, for the liberals who have a tough time with math, are not complying with minimization procedures designed to prevent the government from querying the database about U.S. citizens.
Astonishingly, it's also uncovered that the FBI is using private contractors for technical assistance to assist them in this effort.
Not only for technical assistance, Joe, but for language assistance as well.
And this makes sense.
If some of the emails or communications are in a foreign language and the FBI doesn't
have the linguistic capability to translate, it would make sense that the FBI would contract out that work
to say someone had a clearance, maybe, who was in the private sector who they could bring
in to help translate.
Make sense, Joe?
If Joe's talking to a Russian on his felonious mopery charge, and Joe, I can't translate
Russian, and we don't have any FBI agents on duty who can translate Russian, you got
to get the Russian translator.
So you clear someone, you bring them in and go,
hey, do me a favor, translate this.
That part's not, the fact that they were using private contractors
is not the scandalous part.
It happens, folks.
It happens all the time.
In the Secret Service, we use private contractors
for mental health cases as well to evaluate people
to make sure that they were a legitimate threat to the president, right?
Yes.
What's absolutely scandalous about this whole thing is and this is a quote from the april 26 2017 pfizer court ruling
joe access continued talking about these private contractors even after they completed their work
in response to an fbi request ladies gentlemen, who the hell were those private contractors?
Don't forget the Nellie Orr angle. So what's plan A? Ladies and gentlemen, it's now becoming very
clear what plan A likely was. Plan A was likely, let's go get the Trump team. Let's get information on the Trump team.
And ladies and gentlemen, it may not have just been the Trump team.
Prepare yourself for this.
Remember, in 2015, Donald Trump is obviously not the nominee for the GOP.
The nomination process doesn't conclude till the end of 2016.
It was a long, out primary what was the obama
administration the department of justice and the fbi doing querying this database let's be crystal
clear on what happened here ladies and gentlemen read the court documents yourself don't take my
word for it the link to the court document is in Carlson's piece. It is there.
It is in my show notes.
I think it's the first two stories.
Read them.
You cannot miss this.
Go to page 82, 83, and 84 if you dispute any of what I'm telling you.
The FISA court's own ruling, own ruling on the corruption in this system here, was that the FBI was using private contractors to access the database.
These private contractors were accessing the database
even after FBI requests were done.
Access continued.
We know up to 85% of the queries of that database
were not meeting the FISA court's own procedures to minimize
the minimize impact on U.S. persons. Folks, this is an explosive, explosive scandal. Listen,
I was I'm sitting there brushing my teeth this morning. I'm thinking because I love my audience
so much. Again, I know some of you love the story. I know some of you are fed up and not
with the story, but like, oh, well, nothing's going to happen. Listen, I know some of you love the story. I know some of you are fed up, but not with the
story, but you're like, oh, well, nothing's going to happen. Listen, I can't promise you something's
going to happen, but I can promise you this. Ignorance is not power here. The more you know
about this case, the more you will be able to question your own representatives and say, we
demand action. We're not asking anymore. You better start getting this thing locked
up right away, folks.
Now, why
was this query
into the abuses in
the FISA database, in
the 702 queries?
Why was this instituted?
Because
back in April of 2016,
remember, the actual Pfizer report doesn't come out until April 26th of the next year, Joe, 2017.
April 18th of 2016,
a potential good guy in this case,
Mike Rogers, who's the head of the NSA,
keep in mind, this is still the Obama administration, folks.
It's April of 2016. Mike Rogers, who's the head of the NSA. Keep in mind, this is still the Obama administration, folks.
It's April of 2016.
Mike Rogers is the NSA goes to the court.
Actually discovers he's the one who actually requests this inquiry into the what's going on into the corruption.
But on April 18th, Rogers shuts down this private contractor access. Ladies and gentlemen, I ask you again, who the heck were these private contractors?
No.
Fusion GPS.
CrowdStrike.
Two private contractors
that are clearly working with government officials.
We know this now.
How?
How do we know it? Because Bruce Ohr at the Department of Justice is meeting with people
from Fusion GPS, notably Glenn Simpson and Christopher Steele, their foreign spy who put
together the dossier. So we know Fusion GPS has contacts with the United States government.
We also know CrowdStrike, Joe, which is the private firm
that analyzed the DNC servers
that are alleged to have been hacked by the Russians.
Remember, the FBI never analyzed those servers.
Those servers were analyzed by CrowdStrike.
CrowdStrike has some significant contacts
to the U.S. government as well.
Let me read you something from Carlson's piece.
This is important.
Here are two of the executives at CrowdStrike.
Steve Chibinski, former general counsel and chief risk officer.
Who was Chibinski?
He was appointed by Obama, Joe, to the Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity on April 18, 2016.
Two months before the CrowdStrike report on the DNC hacking.
He was the former deputy assistant director of the FBI's cyber division and the FBI's
top cyber lawyer during Bob Mueller's tenure as FBI director.
Who else works over at CrowdStrike?
Chief security officer and president of crowd
strike services since april of 2012 sean henry previously the fbi's executive assistant director
of criminal cyber response and services branch appointed by director bob muller
let me ask you this question. Are Fusion GPS and CrowdStrike, these two private contractors
that were given access to the NSA database to assist the FBI? Remember what I told you before,
the FBI?
Remember what I told you before, Joe.
The fact that private contractors are given access is not the scandal.
There are some services
the federal government cannot support.
Language services, maybe technical and others.
Let me give you the technical side so it makes
sense as well. Maybe you get
some emails and those emails describe
some kind of technical sophistication
that the FBI doesn't have the engineering
plans or whatever it may be.
It wouldn't be uncommon to bring in a cleared outside person to look at it and to provide
technical assistance.
Also to provide metadata reading, things like that.
It wouldn't be totally uncommon for them to seek some kind of private sector support.
Are we clear?
I just want to make sure.
It's not that private contractors were given access.
The scandal is that private contractors were given access the scandal is that private contractors were given access the
access continued even after the fbi request for help was over and the pfizer court themselves
after mike rogers the head of the nsa says we got a problem here something's happening with our our
our nsa database he folks he's in charge of it he's mike rogers he's in charge he's the head of the nsa they monitor this database
he says a year before there's something going on here all of a sudden we find out that these
private contractors may have been abusing their privileges looking into this nsa database to query
information folks were those private contractors fusion Fusion GPS and CrowdStrike,
do you understand the enormity of this?
Listen, I can't tell you what the consequences are going to be.
I'm not the attorney general.
I can't.
I've got sources.
Some are good.
Some are okay.
I'm not the attorney general.
Folks, this is important. it is of critical importance that
we find out what happened here is the scandal coming together plan a plan a at this point was
clear use the federal government to query metadata collection databases they have on u.s citizens
use that data not for law enforcement purposes, but political purposes.
Mike Rogers, the head of the NSA,
back in April of 2016, Joe,
sniffs something wrong.
What the hell's going on with the query of this database?
This isn't supposed to be for this.
Why are we using these private contractors?
He shuts it down.
Not only does he shut it down,
he asks his compliance officer to do a thorough review
and submit a report to the FISA court.
The FISA court puts out a ruling a year later, April 26th of 2017.
Read it in the Carlson piece.
Go to page 82.
There are some stunning, stunning things in there that these contractors were working
in the database after the FBI requests were over.
What the hell were they doing?
Ladies and gentlemen, the key question.
Were some of these contractors Fusion GPS and CrowdStrike?
Now, does the reason Nelly Orr may have been hired as far back as 2015 this new revelation
now does it make sense why this is so astonishing folks I'm asking a question here I don't have the
answer here for you conclusively I'm telling you where the evidence is starting to lead. Was Nellie Orr and Fusion GPS hired for her Russian language skills?
Was Fusion GPS granted access to search this holy grail of email and phone data information the NSA had?
phone data information the NSA had?
Was Nellie Orr somehow involved in a private contractor search
of really the Rosetta Stone of information
on U.S. citizens
in an effort not to help a criminal investigation, Joe,
but to do a political hit job?
Folks, the ramifications of the answer to that question the question being
and the only question we should all be asking right now
who the heck were those private contractors were they fusion gps and crowd strike
ladies and gentlemen if they were we got a real problem here.
Let me give you another piece of evidence that I've been holding on to for a while.
A certain story is starting to make sense now in the bigger picture.
I've been holding it because I wasn't sure.
There are a lot of people in the media, McClatchy and others, Joe,
who have reported, despite any evidence indicating that their story is true,
that Michael Cohen, who for those of you who don't remember the name, was Trump's personal attorney.
He is now the one Bob Mueller's investigating. Lanny Davis is his lawyer. You probably are familiar with the story.
Just know he's being investigated for things unrelated to Russian collusion.
How do we know that?
Because Bob Mueller investigated Michael Cohen and referred the case to the Southern District of New York.
We clear on that, Joe?
Bob Mueller's charges investigate Russian collusion.
He investigated Trump's lawyer.
He then referred the case.
He didn't keep it to the Southern District of New York.
So we're reasonably confident that Bob Mueller understands Michael Cohen is not.
Please tell me you're clear on this.
Mueller, I'm in charge of Russian collusion.
He investigates Cohen.
He refers the case, which says to me as a former federal agent, he had no connection to Russian collusion at all.
And based on the indictment that we saw from Michael Cohen about, you know, the campaign donation charge with Stormy Daniels and the taxi medallion fraud, that stuff has nothing to do with collusion.
I'm convinced Michael Cohen, however good or a bad guy he is, Joe, has nothing to do with collusion.
Are we clear on this?
This is an important point.
Because this story is now going to hammer this home for you.
Yet,
despite that,
McClatchy and others have repeatedly put out this story that there's evidence
out there that Michael Cohen traveled to Prague,
Trump's lawyer during the campaign to set up a deal to hack the DNC with some technologically sophisticated anti-Hillary Clinton wizards.
That charge, Joe, that Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to organize this Russian collusion never goes away.
There are still McClatchy reporters standing by this.
Now, if you're confused right now, you should be.
You should say, Dan, you're telling us two separate stories.
You're saying on one hand that the lead investigator in this case, Bob Mueller, must be convinced Cohen had nothing to do with Russian collusion.
but on the other hand you're saying that there are media people out there that despite Cohen's repeated incredibly strong denials through him and his lawyer Lanny Davis that he's never been
to Prague in his life that there are media people out there Joe still reporting and standing by the
story that Michael Cohen was in Prague what gives Joe you see the conundrum right yes there's a
conundrum Mueller who is read into the whole program,
has all the evidence in front of him,
is obviously convinced Cohen wasn't in Prague.
He would investigate the case himself.
The media stands by the story.
Now, now, now.
What's going on?
Folks, let me pose to you a what if if private contractors were given access
to the fisa database and potentially other databases as well maybe techs and other databases
and found that in fact a michael cohen was in prague and there are emails indicating that a
michael cohen was in prague and that information was passed that a Michael Cohen was in Prague and that information
was passed to a private contractor Joe that may have leaked this information to the media at some
point let me ask you this Joe is it possible it's the wrong Michael Cohen yeah in other words
the media's got accurate information about the wrong guy.
Nobody would be more read into this than private contractors who had access to the full cornucopia of information in this Pfizer database.
Email records, phone records.
Is it possible somebody has a phone record, the metadata from a phone, Joe, geolocated and everything in Prague for a Michael Cohen?
But it's not the Michael Cohen we're talking about.
Do you realize the epic scandal that would be?
One of the bedrock contentions of the Steele dossier against Donald Trump is that this deal went down precisely because Michael Cohen helped arrange it in Prague.
They may have a Michael Cohen in Prague, Joe, but it ain't the Michael Cohen you're thinking.
You want to talk about collusion? Did the media collude with a private contractor that had access to tier one level sensitive data
in the FISA database
that has geolocated phone records
or emails on a Michael Cohen,
but it's not Trump's Michael Cohen?
Does that explain why McClatchy and others
will not retract this story?
I'll tell you right now, it explains why Bob Mueller ran from this case and sent Cohen
Packen to the Southern District of New York.
Folks, again, I can't even describe to you how horrifying this is.
Now, I haven't even gotten to you how horrifying this is now i haven't even gotten a plan b because
something happens plan a folks is clearly working out swimmingly the fbi and doj they get to give
access to these private contractors these private contractors go back to this company fusion gps
which is gathering the information they have this woman woman in Fusion GPS, Nellie Orr,
whose husband conveniently works for the Justice Department.
Oh, I don't think any information was being exchanged there.
They're developing little dossiers, maybe not just on Trump.
Remember, they don't know Trump's going to be the nominee at this point.
Maybe that's the scandal.
That maybe this wasn't just about Trump the whole time.
Was this an Obama administration, DOJ effort the entire time
to gather dossiers on all of them?
Oh, folks.
All right, I got more.
I haven't even gotten to plan B,
because remember, plan A is not plan.
No one knew it was plan A.
It was just plan.
It only became plan A after they needed plan B, right?
If we go, Joe, here's the plan and you don't have a back,
they didn't have a backup plan,
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So plan A, just to recap.
Wow, this is great.
You mean we got access to basically everyone's emails and phones?
And I'm the Democrat president right now,
and I've got a DOJ and an FBI willing to play ball.
I've got this lady with a Russian language specialist.
Oh, the FBI uses a language specialist to assist them as private contractors when they reach into the NSA database and gather information.
Folks, that's supposed to be used for criminal and foreign intelligence.
Let's just use it for a political campaign, too.
Let's give private contractors access. Okay, great. Ah, let's just use it for a political campaign too. Let's give private contractors access.
Okay, great.
Well, what's happened?
Well, 85% of these queries are not being used
for what we thought they're being used for.
And these private contractors are exposed
by Admiral Mike Rogers, who foils plan A.
Says, no, no, we're shutting this private contract access down.
Now the entire intelligence gathering operation, folks, on political opponents hits a big emergency break.
They go to Plan B.
Instead of giving up, Joe, and going, you know, maybe we shouldn't spy on our political opponents.
No, no, no, no.
This has been working out great. We got to find a way to keep this going we can't the fbi agents
themselves aren't going to engage in these unauthorized accesses into the fisa system why
joe they don't want to get fired that's why the private contractors were there right
so what's plan b i got an idea let's get a FISA warrant, a foreign intelligence surveillance court warrant used to spy on terrorists. And let's do it to spy on the Trump team, because you know what we can do, Joe?
So the two hop rule is in effect.
So not only do we get to spy on the email and phone records of the member of the Trump team, but we can hop to the people he emails and then the people they email, which enable us to do what, Joe?
Create our own little mini FISA database ourselves of what?
Of everybody in the Trump orbit.
Isn't this great?
Brilliant.
Brilliant. What's the problem, folks? And I discuss this at length in my book. the Trump orbit. Isn't this great? Brilliant! Brilliant!
What's the problem, folks? And I discuss this at length in my book. There are two
chapters on this. This is the part I was hesitant to put
out there, but I'm going to do it because it's time.
You need some form
of an open investigation to get a
FISA warrant. Despite, folks,
listen, the corruption in this was right, but these
people aren't stupid. They had to cover their tracks. There are very specific procedures, folks, listen, the corruption in this was right, but these people aren't stupid.
They had to cover their tracks.
There are very specific procedures, Joe, to go and get a FISA warrant.
Yeah.
You have to have some form of an open investigation.
But in order to open an investigation, they need some form of evidence they can put down on paper.
Paragraph one.
Paragraph one.
What was paragraph one?
They need to describe in paragraph one of their report how they're going to open an investigation.
In an open investigation, they need credible evidence, folks, that's supposed to be verified
through the Woods procedure. They need credible evidence that someone is acting on behalf of a
foreign hostile power and they're doing it in violation of U.S. law.
They need evidence of that.
That is the probable cause standard, okay?
To spy on a U.S. person, folks, don't forget this.
They need evidence that someone is acting on behalf of a hostile power, and they are doing it in violation of U.S. law.
That's important.
Now remember, oh, by the way,
just to sum one thing up,
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be distracting,
but I don't want to leave you hanging on that.
If you didn't figure out why the information
that Nellie Orr was working back as far as 2015
for Fusion GPS, which is new,
the queries that were happening
that Mike Rogers stops folks,
that stops on Plan A,
were happening as far back as 2015.
Now we find out that a Department of Justice official who's been collaborating with Fusion GPS,
his wife was working for them as far back as 2015.
Why were they hiding that?
While these queries were happening?
Joe, does that make sense?
Yeah.
Does it make sense why that would you make sense
why that's a stunning
piece of information
yeah yeah yeah
I'm with you
I may go a little over today
I'm sorry
do it
but this is important
do it
so now they have to move
on to plan B
but they don't
the Pfizer warrant
but they don't have
the evidence Joe
because Trump is not
colluding with a foreign power
there you go.
So what happens around March of 2016? Trump's at an editorial board meeting with a newspaper,
and he whips out a piece of paper and says, hey, look, here are my foreign policy advisors.
He does it in response to a hostile question like you don't even have any serious foreign
policy advisors. Trump pulls out this piece of paper and says, oh, I do, and who are two names on that list?
George Papadopoulos and Carter Page.
This information gets out there,
of course, to a compliant press.
I guarantee you,
Fusion GPS gets a hold of it immediately.
And Joe, they've got their angle.
But the angle's not enough.
So they need to develop more information before they can open up a case,
before they can officially open up a case.
They need a preliminary investigation
to determine that the information is credible,
just to be clear,
before they can open up
a formal foreign intelligence investigation,
which happens July 31st of 2016.
Now, do all of the steps in this make sense?
How this was obviously now all attempts in a preliminary investigative stage
to establish that Carter Page and George Papadopoulos were foreign spies
acting on behalf of a foreign power, even though they weren't.
Bingo!
Bureau guys, I can see them,
sitting around a room,
working with these DOJ guys.
Guys, we don't have enough.
If we open up this case,
alleging that Trump's colluding with the Russians,
and we open it up on Carter Page and Papadopoulos,
and we allege it working on behalf of foreign powers.
We don't have any evidence.
Some genius comes up with the very bright idea.
Well, why don't we do this?
Why don't we just set Papadopoulos up?
now papadopoulos conveniently meets with this maltese professor right around april right after the march announcement that he's working for the trump team this maltese professor shows an unusual
interest in him right after the announcement and he's connected through this maltese professor
with some supposedly ministry of Foreign Affairs contact in Russia.
Who is that?
Why does Mifsud, the guy he's connected with, have contacts with Western officials, Western intel officials?
Who's working for who here?
Now, I've described at length the fact that I think Papadopoulos was set up.
I think they knew very well Papadopoulos was not a foreign spy and Papadopoulos was set up. I think they knew very well Papadopoulos was not a foreign spy and Papadopoulos
was set up in the preliminary investigative stage, Joe, to write a sentence in paragraph one as a
predicate to open up a full-blown foreign intelligence investigation. But that's not it
because that's not enough in and of itself because Papadopoulos doesn't bite.
Number two, what else are we going to do?
We need another bullet point in paragraph one to make sure we can get this FISA.
Carter Page.
Someone sits in a room and goes, wait, wait, didn't we work with this guy Carter Page in the past?
Wasn't he somehow helping us out on that?
Yes, yes, yes.
He was a CI on the Buryakov case, the Russian spy case.
Oh, this is great.
Yeah, but he was helping us on that case.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Here's what we're going to do.
Let's get together with Steele, Christopher Steele, who's working for Fusion GPS, that may have had access to this FISA database and may have been putting together a dossier in the past.
Remember the Cohen thing?
That's in the dossier.
Michael Cohen was in Prague.
Did that come from the Pfizer database?
Was that passed to Steele?
How did Steele get that information?
Oh, I want to know that.
I want to know that ASAP.
This guy Steele's putting together a dossier on Trump and the dossier alleges that some guy Michael Cohen working for Trump was
in Prague setting up a scam and that the scam was being run through Cohen and this guy Carter Page
who traveled to Russia who we know has contacted Russians how because we use them as a as a as a
confidential informant in a case against the Russians I don't know. That's not enough.
Hey, let's go to Bruce Orr.
Bruce Orr's wife is working for Fusion GPS that hired this guy, Steele, who's putting together the dossier.
And Steele has all this in this series of memos called the dossier.
It's all there.
Yeah, but we'll have to verify that.
Not now.
Shut up.
Orr had been meeting with Christopher Steele the whole time. Steele passes all these dossier information that Carter Page is colluding with the Russians
for some gas contracts, which is an outrageous accusation, stupid on its face. and he's actually been to Russia there's point number two in paragraph one what else do we got oh I got an idea you know the CIA has this source Stefan Halper
who works over in the United Kingdom and the UK is not really happy about Trump right now
now we already know United Kingdom intelligence sources and others, according to reporting
by CNN themselves, had been passing information about the Trump team.
So, plan A fails.
Plan A is a full-blown operation to probe the FISA database to get information from
foreign intelligence on the Trump team.
from foreign intelligence on the Trump team.
And now, even better, using those foreign contacts,
they can set up Papadopoulos using a spy,
Stefan Halper, who reaches out to Papadopoulos and Carter Page, by the way,
Carter Page specifically,
before the investigations even open.
You see what I'm saying?
Remember what I'm telling you, folks.
They are putting together a series of bullet points in a preliminary investigative stage to establish the fact that they have
evidence that Trump has spies on his team, even though the evidence is complete garbage.
They set up Papadopoulos. They get the information on Carter Page from a dossier,
a dossier funded by a company who hired the wife of a guy working for the DOJ.
company who hired the wife of a guy working for the DOJ.
They have a back channel of information.
Then they say, hey, what about this Halper guy?
Supposedly, we have a spy connected to UK intelligence.
UK intelligence knows this guy.
They've been working on us on the Trump team.
What if we have him reach out to Carter Page?
The emails are there, folks.
Maybe he gets Carter Page to travel over to the United Kingdom. Oh, he did that? Yes, he did.
He asked Papadopoulos, hey, you know about the emails, right?
Why did he do that? Why was everybody asking Papadopoulos about the emails?
Because the FBI astonishingly still has none of this verified.
Step four to establish paragraph one in the preliminary investigative stage.
We already know the FBI was using national security letters.
How do we know that?
Because it's already come out based on Devin Nunes' work.
Why were they using national security letters as a form of administrative subpoena?
Why were they using that?
Joe, who exactly were they issuing subpoenas to,
administrative subpoenas?
Was this an effort, again,
to circumvent their failure
to be able to access the FISA database anymore?
And most importantly, folks, the Trump Tower meeting.
The June 9th Trump Tower meeting.
Remember, we're in the preliminary investigation stage of the FBI right now.
How do we know that?
Because Crossfire Hurricane, the actual investigation, formally opens July 31st.
The Trump Tower meeting happens on the 9th.
It happens before.
Now, another piece of the puzzle I put together last night as I was sitting there putting
this show together, thinking this through.
I've got one more angle at the end.
I don't want you to miss.
It's important.
Now it's making sense. One of the questions I've been thinking about forever
is if Veselnitskaya, the lawyer, the Russian lawyer, and the former Russian intelligence
connected guy, Akhmetshin, and the translator who had worked for Hillary's State Department,
show up at this Trump Tower meeting on June 9th, it's obvious to me this was a setup.
But what's clear to me is,
what wasn't, excuse me,
what wasn't clear to me is
if they were going to show up
to set Don Trump Jr. up
under the predicate
that they were going to pass some information
about Hillary Clinton,
why not just make it up, Joe, right?
Why not just go in there and say,
hey, we've got these emails. Why not go in? Why not just go in there and say, hey, we've got these emails.
Why not go in there wired up
and go in there with the, you know,
and say, hey, listen,
we're willing to exchange them
in exchange for sanctions.
Now it's making sense.
The Russian lawyer works for Fusion GPS
who has another contract
independent of the anti-Trump operation.
Their other contract
is working with a company named Prevazan and others
and working also on some anti-Magnitsky lobbying.
Magnitsky basically is sanctions on Russian oligarchs.
That contract, just to be clear on this, is separate.
So I think Fusion GPS, out of their own greed, figures, listen, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to go in there and talk about these sanctions first while we have access to the
president's kid, and then we're going to make it a quid pro quo at the end, like, hey, if you guys
can make these sanctions go away, we'll give you information about Hillary. Yes! Yes! Now it makes sense.
That would be, Joe, a very serious problem for the Trump team.
Would it not?
If they walk into Trump Tower, they got the president's kid,
and they've got Manafort in there, and they say,
Hey, here are these horrible sanctions.
We don't want them. Keep in mind,
there's Veselnitskaya is working on behalf of Fusion GPS.
She meets with them before and after the meeting.
They are working to get rid of Magnitsky.
This is a kill two birds with one stone operation.
Here's what we can do.
We can set up the Trump team because we need to pass this information to Nelly, back to Bruce Orr, back to the DOJ.
But we need a quid pro quo with the Trump team to make it seem that they're working on behalf of a foreign power. What better way to do it than to lobby first against Magnitsky just in case he's elected?
We can get rid of this crappy thing, right?
But secondly, to say, hey, listen, if he doesn't get elected, then we can say, hey, listen, we can pass this information on to the Clinton team that we told the Trump team get rid of these Magnitsky sanctions in exchange for in dirt will pass.
You weren't now on Hillary, but what happens?
What screws up the plan?
Trump team's not interested, Joe.
The meeting goes on about five minutes.
Conveniently, by the way, they have a translator from the State Department that had worked
for Hillary Clinton's operation, just in case there's any misinterpretations of what happens,
right?
The Trump team's not interested.
They get about five minutes into this meeting on Magnitsky,
which is all she's talking about in Russian, clearly,
because there's a translator.
And the Trump team says, hey, this sounds great and all,
but have a nice day.
The plan is all screwed up.
Also, not inconveniently timed, Veselnitskaya wasn't allowed in the united states how did she
get in she gets in via a special visa exemption approved by the department of justice under obama
ladies and gentlemen why the hell would would the Obama administration approve a special visa exemption for a Russian lawyer to come into the United States to lobby against sanctions via Magnitsky that Barack Obama himself put on?
Folks, does that make any sense to you?
Maybe if she was part of a setup,
it makes a whole lot of sense.
Let me add another angle to this.
Now that that plan gets busted up,
why, Joe?
They needed a quid pro quo.
Yeah, didn't happen.
Because Sally Yates, who's the number two with the Justice Department, that that plan gets busted up why joe they needed a quid pro quo yeah didn't happen because sally
yates who's the number two with the justice department probably has this logan act plan
hatched the whole time remember this is what she runs to the white house to explain to donald trump
that mike flynn's in charge of uh he's going to be charged with and he's in trouble because the
logan act the logan act is private citizens conducting business in the united states uh
basically counter to u.s interests or conducting private business, you know, basically in the name of the government when they shouldn't.
Was the original Logan Act plan to charge Don Jr.?
But to charge Don Jr., did they need, in this preliminary investigation stage, did they need him to agree to look at
waiving magnitsky sanctions through his dad in conjunction for emails on hillary but he didn't
do it joe now they're now they're screwed we got this logan act thing what do we do oh i got a great idea
trump gets elected let's listen in on mike flynn his national security advisor conveniently what
happens he gets into a conversation with the russian ambassador kislyak about oh sanctions
and that's what the fbi approaches him with the white house at the
white house to interview him on after he's the appointed national security advisor
oh my gosh ladies and gentlemen this thing was hatched the whole time
that was plan b june 9th was going to be the final plan B preliminary investigation piece of information they need.
Don Jr. met with this Russian lawyer and agreed to waive sanctions or lobby his dad to waive sanctions in exchange for information on Hillary.
But it never happened.
So what do they do, Joe?
They have to go back to Halper and they have to go back to Steele repeatedly, who keeps feeding them unverified
information because all prior efforts fail.
The Papa D set up, George Papadopoulos set up, do Mifsud and his MFA, Ministry of Foreign
Affairs, Russian contact, falls apart.
The Carter Page information turns out it's unverified.
The Michael Cohen information, it's the wrong Michael Cohen.
The Steele dossier turns out to be all
crap
they can't back into the FISA database
anymore because Mike Rogers has
banned them private contractors from getting
in there the FBI is not going to do it themselves they don't want to be
on the record they go back
to Halper Halper invites Carter
Page over to London they got nothing
he asked Papadopoulos about the emails
and others on the Trump team about the emails.
They got nothing.
The national security letters, subpoenas,
they've still got nothing.
The Alpha Bank investigation
between the server and Trump Tower in Russia
turns out to be a big nothing burger.
It's a spam operation.
The Trump Tower meeting
turns out to be a nothing burger.
Trump Jr. doesn't take the bait.
Then they have to move to Plan C.
Joe, what's Plan C?
I'm going to get to that in a second. I've got one final read.
But you are not going to want to miss Plan
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So folks, let's tie it all together here.
Plan A does not work out.
Mike Rogers shuts down these contractors working with the FBI from being able to essentially spy on political opponents.
They go to Plan B. Don't worry, we'll get a FISA warrant. Surely one of these guys is involved in
foreign collusion with the Russians, but they're not. Okay, well, let's set them up. Let's employ
some spies and some of our UK intelligence contacts to set up these Trump foreign policy
advisors. Who are they? Oh, Carter Page and Papadopoulos.
Great.
The setup on Papadopoulos doesn't work.
The Carter Page information that he's being set up to do the Christopher Steele dossier
turns out to be complete, utter garbage.
Well, let's just go back to Christopher Steele.
Surely he'll produce something while he produces this dossier.
What happens?
It's crap.
Oh, gosh, what are we going to do now?
Well, June 9th, let's go to the Trump Tower investigation.
Let's set him up in Trump Tower.
He doesn't take the bait on the trade,
sanctions for emails.
He doesn't take the bait.
Matter of fact, not after the meeting
and the information becomes public,
Trump Jr. releases all his emails on it.
Now they're screwed.
They don't know what this happens later,
but they don't know what to do.
The scandal, folks, is they open the investigation anyway,
relying almost entirely on the dossier.
They now have to know, do Bruce Ohr is false.
Why?
Because Bruce Ohr just told the committee
that he was very suspicious of the information in Steele. The scandal is intimately connected
to all the players in this case.
He knows people at CrowdStrike
who were assigned to look into,
I just told you who they were before.
If you rewind the show,
you'll hear,
he knows people at CrowdStrike,
the company designed to look
into the alleged DNC hack.
Remember, they never let the FBI in.
Bob Mueller knows all the players in this,
all of them.
Who does Bob Mueller bring on right away as his lead investigator in this case?
This is what cued the whole thing last night.
It wasn't just the Nelly Orr working for Fusion as far back as 2015.
Sarah Carter says last night, and this has been out for a couple days,
but this is what cued me to look into this whole thing. Sarah Carter's on Hannity last night, and I didn't know this has been out for a couple of days, but she's, this is what cued me to look into this whole thing.
Sarah Carter's on Hannity last night.
It says,
Hey,
you know who Bruce or was quote,
keeping in the loop hat tip,
Chuck Ross is the daily caller for his report on this.
You know who Bruce or was keeping in the loop the entire time he was dealing
with fusion GPS steel.
And his wife was working over there.
Fusion GPS from 2015,
Andrew freaking Weissman. Trump's. Steele and his wife was working over there at Fusion GPS from 2015?
Andrew freaking Weissman.
Trump's,
excuse me, Bob Mueller's
lead investigator in the case.
What better way to
sweep this under the carpet than to
get the guy knee deep in the whole
thing, Weissman, who's being
quote, kept in the loop by
Bruce Ohr, whose wife is working for Fusion GPS
as they're cycling through these plans to hit the Trump team what better way to do it than to bring
Andy Weissman himself in as the lead investigator investigating his own potential malfeasance the cojones on these people is astounding astounding
now one last angle on this why else is andrew weissman the key to this whole plan c debacle
to sweep this whole thing away andacle to sweep this whole thing away.
And when I say this whole thing, I mean the FISA abuses and I mean the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, Joe.
Despite no preliminary investigative information that was actually verified that indicated anyone on the Trump team was a foreign spy working in violation of U.S. law.
They opened it anyway.
Weissman was in on this the whole time.
Or is briefing Weissman.
But who is Weissman also intimately connected to?
Folks, Andy Weissman is one of the head prosecutors in the Enron investigation when Bob Mueller is the FBI director.
Remember the failed Enron?
The debacle in the Enron investigation?
These prosecutions had to be thrown out,
these convictions.
Weissman's team was accused
of really gross conduct on the case.
Joe, who were some of his prosecutors
and some of his buddies on that?
Catherine Rumler.
Lisa Monaco.
Bob Mueller's former chief of staff, Lisa Monaco.
They were prosecutors.
They were on that Enron case with Andy Weissman.
Andy Weissman knows Catherine Rumler and Lisa Monaco.
Monaco was Bob Mueller's former chief of staff.
Why does that matter?
Who are these people?
Why do you care?
Folks, who was Obama's White House lawyer
when this was going on?
Plan A, Plan B, and Plan C.
Catherine Rumbler.
The fixer.
Just Google Catherine Rumbler,
the fixer. She's Obama's fixer the whole time he's in the
white house the secret service scandal the irs scandal benghazi rummler's knee deep in all of it
rummler is his white house counsel she knows andrew weissman
she's also rummler the fixer who knows weissman who's knee deep in this whole thing he's kept
quote in the loop by bruce or joe rummler is representing a source bob muller's using in the
case she's his lawyer george nader he's using george nader to go after all these people on the Trump team. Rumbler's his lawyer.
Rumbler knows Weissman.
They're friends.
She's Obama's fixer.
Lisa Monaco was also on the Enron prosecution with Weissman.
They're buddies.
She was Mueller's chief of staff.
Folks, she was working in the White House with obama in a national security role when
all this was going down and finally they all know each other this is an incestuous circle
the guy in the doj who was one of the final people to put the stamp on the fisa warrants
on the information process he didn't sign but he's one of the final people to put the stamp on the information that made it into the FISA warrant to say it had been verified.
When it hadn't was who?
It was John Carlin.
The chief of staff for Bob Mueller after Lisa Monaco.
For Bob Mueller, after Lisa Monaco, who signs off in the Woods procedure that the information used to spy on the Trump team in Plan B was in fact verified when it wasn't. And he leaves very suspiciously right after the election.
Along with the head of the UK GCHQ, Hannigan, who leaves under very suspicious circumstances.
The UK intelligence entity that was sharing information with the United States
intelligence,
leaves suspiciously after the election too.
Folks,
this Mueller probe is a complete total scam of the highest order.
This is a,
you are being smoked up.
This is a, you are being smoked up. This is a, this, the corruption here is so deep that Weissman should resign immediately. He should be fired by Donald Trump. Mueller should be fired
by Donald Trump. This whole thing should be disbanded and criminal charges should be pursued
against these people immediately. Now it's come full circle.
We're all the way back to where we stood in 628.
Folks, again, I'm not trying, you know, buy it, don't buy it.
It's up to you.
But if you're interested in this, I was keeping it for the book on October 9th.
But given the revelations last night about Nellie Orr and Andrew Weissman's in-the-loop contacts with Bruce Ohr,
it's too important to put out there,
but the books available on Amazon,
Spygate,
the attempted sabotage of Donald Trump,
and it lays all of this out for you.
We've known this for a long time.
Devastating.
All right,
folks,
thanks again for tuning in.
I really,
really appreciate it.
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