The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 812 What Did the Obama White House Know?
Episode Date: September 21, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the forgotten connections to the Obama White House in the Spygate scandal. I also address the growing panic among Democrats about the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.... Finally, I cover the possibility that the FBI has two sets of books on the Trump case. News Picks: This key Democrat revealed their real strategy regarding Kavanaugh. The Russian collusion hoax is dead. Bury it. The media is already signaling to the Supreme Court what should happen if Kavanaugh is confirmed. Jeff Carlson’s new piece address the “insurance policy.” Why is this key player in the Spygate scandal refusing to cooperate? The far-left lurch of the Democrat Party may cause them serious governing problems. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with
your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
What is happening, Daniel?
What is happening?
It's out of control.
It's out of control.
But you really do have to learn, folks, and I think a lot of you who listen to my show
have already figured this out.
You have to learn to interpret what you see on TV these days.
I have some clips, one from Sarah Carter.
I'm also going to get into some stuff.
Devin Nunes, the Republican congressman from California, has been on the news saying lately,
and you have to translate what they're talking about.
There's been some real, real tier one level important stuff coming out lately and we are right
at the cusp, so you know, in the giant
arc of the Spygate story.
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So Sarah Carter was on Hannity's radio show
on, I believe, Wednesday.
And I've been holding this
because I've been doing a little homework on the side
because Sarah and I have, I don't know,
maybe some of the same sources.
Maybe we don't share names
because we wouldn't do that to people.
But I get some information from different people.
So I was careful on this.
I want to play this cut
and I want to relate it to a larger ongoing story arc
because this is huge.
And for those of you who've been asking,
is there going to be criminal penalties in this case?
This cut may answer your questions.
I'm hearing it even gets worse than this, that there potentially is out there, if you will, two sets of record among the upper echelon of the FBI, one that was real and one that was made for appearances.
Is there any truth to this?
Absolutely, Sean. absolutely sean um i think that right now especially with the number of sources that
i've been speaking with as well as uh some others that there is evidence indicating that the fbi
had uh separate sets of books and if that is the case i mean it it certainly appears that this as
greg has already stated over and over again that there could be and there will be criminal charges pressed against people.
Now, I've been telling you to take it easy forever
when it comes to certain people at the DOJ.
I get it.
I get people are upset with Sessions.
I'm not going to go into that whole thing again.
I understand.
And things are not going as fast as we'd like them.
But stop believing whoever's telling you that there's nothing going on behind the scenes.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is something going on behind the scenes.
We found out recently that a grand jury has been impaneled and is looking into the deputy director, the former deputy director, Andy McCabe, who had a central role in all of this.
Now, this is something I caught wind of a little while back,
but Sarah's an investigative reporter who does a great job with fantastic resources. I am not.
I have a lot of other conservative content producer. I have some sources on stuff,
but this is interesting where there are two sets of books. Now, is it starting to come together
for you now? Do you remember a few weeks ago when I said that the declassification moment that we've
now seen is going to be key because we're going to see a couple things, folks, and this is what's
going to matter. We're going to see a set of investigative interviews, 302s, investigative
summaries of the FBI's interviews with Bruce Ohr from the DOJ, who was keeping contact with
Christopher Steele and had a deep perspective of all that was going on, right? We're also going to see what was in the FISA warrant.
So when she says two sets of books,
I don't think she literally means like marble notebook scribbled out official
and then unofficial.
I think what she's getting at, and I could be wrong,
I haven't coordinated this messaging with Sarah at all or anything like that.
She has her own operation going on at SarahACarter.com,
which is a really cool website by the way um i believe what she may be hinting at here is that the fbi kept ongoing records of
their communications with bruce or vis-a-vis uh christopher steel vis-a-vis bruce or at the
department of justice you're darn right but that information did not then make it into the FISA warrants. Now,
this is why the text messages are going to be critical. And this is why Devin Nunes keeps
coming out on the news. I'll tie this up for you. Don't worry if you're getting a little confused
here. This is why Devin Nunes keeps coming out on the news and saying, listen, there are things
that haven't been disclosed yet that I think are going to blow people's minds.
Now, one of the defenses I believe the Bureau has had up to this point is, well, we may have had suspicions that Carter Page was a Russian agent because of this, this, and this, but,
but, but what if the 302s and accompanying texts say the exact opposite?
Let me paint for you a hypothetical to make this thing make sense, right?
You have one set of materials
being presented to the FISA court
that hinges on one critical factor
to be able to spy on the Trump team.
It hinges around the fact that you must show, Joseph,
that Carter Page is, in fact,
an agent of the Russian government
in violation of U.S. law.
All right.
Okay.
You have to establish this information to spy.
What if in another set of text messages where you're talking to each other back and forth,
so you're not going to be able to claim any more plausible deniability?
I didn't know.
Remember, Donald Trump has declassified the text messages.
I went into what's going on yesterday.
If you missed yesterday's show, please catch up on it.
With the text messages, how they were after hours,
these guys were too lazy to get on their FBI computers
and were transmitting likely, at a minimum,
sensitive information over unclassed devices after hours
to all be the guys who were like the briefers, right?
That was yesterday's show.
But what if in those text messages, right, they talk about the information that is in
those 302s that the FBI debriefs of Bruce Ohr and in those FBI 302s and in exchanges
in the text, they acknowledge that Carter Page may not, in fact, be a Russian agent.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the hardest thing to understand and the simplest thing to understand at the same time.
302s, FISA's, all the stuff.
All you need to know is this.
When she says two sets of books, Sarah Carter, and her sources are great.
I don't think she's literally talking about two sets of books.
I think what she's talking about here is she's talking about fbi folks
off the record saying one thing hey carter page is probably not a russian spy this is likely a
ruse right joe you tracking me oh yes tracking but in the pfizer warrants when they have to go
and swear in front of a judge and put their right hand up like i'm doing now to producer joe
they're swearing to the judge what they're telling you is true.
Folks, this is a huge deal.
Now, I'm going to get to the Nunes stuff in a minute because I was having a bit of a hard time,
hence the reason I haven't addressed it yet,
deciphering some of the stuff
he's been talking about on the news.
But I just want to finish off
what Sarah Carter's hit here
and get to a little more of this
and then we'll move on to that.
I think I've been able to get the new nest translator out but
play the rest of the card well wait a minute so in other words is saying one thing publicly
but the real story the real set of books is held privately among how many people are we talking
about and high how high up in the echelon of the doJ FBI? I think there are quite a few people, especially higher-ups.
I will not name names until all of the evidence is out there,
but there were certain people above Peter Strzok and above Lisa Page that were aware of this.
I also believe that there are people within the FBI that have actually turned on their former employers and are possibly even testifying and reporting what happened inside the FBI to both the inspector general and possibly even a grand jury.
Oh, boy.
Joe, that's going to hurt, buddy, isn't it?
We might leave a mark, babe.
To the grand jury we already know exists.
Again, I've been telling you guys for a while, based on solid information, not fairytale-like stuff, that there are things going on behind the scenes.
We now know there is a grand jury.
We know that because it was leaked to the Washington Post and other newspapers, that this grand jury is looking into this.
But there's a couple interesting tidbits in there, right?
First, Sarah kind of gives it away a little bit um she says there are people above peter stroke who may have known about these two sets of books and again just to be clear we're talking
about the fbi saying one thing off the record carter page isn't a russian spy and an on the
record in the pfizer court saying, holy Moses, Carter Page is definitely
a Russian spy.
Folks, morally, ethically awful, but we may be looking at potential crimes here.
Let's be candid.
But what she said is very telling.
And again, if you know how to read the tea leaves here, you'll see where she goes with
this.
She says there are people above Peter Stroke, Joe, who may have known about this. Well, Joe, Peter Stroke was in the FBI was about at the five or six level.
I mean, I'm trying to put numbers.
It's difficult to categorize because there's laterals, too.
There's people who are laterally equivalent in rank.
But there are very few people above Peter Stroke.
Peter Stroke was the lead investigator in the Trump case and in the clinton case before he got the boot in the trump case right but let's follow the chain of command to deduce logically
let's do the sarah carter translator i mean that in a positive way who might have known about this
who's the director of the fbi at the time joe jim coleman yeah who's the deputy director andy mccabe
who sits right under Andy McCabe
and the division that investigates all this,
the counterintel and telstop?
Bill Price step.
And who is beneath Bill Price step?
Peter Stroke.
So what I'm telling you folks
is Carter, by the process of elimination here,
has told us who her source at least believes
was intimately involved in the keeping of two separate sets of, quote, books on this case, which could be potentially devastating.
Can you imagine if holier than now, phony fraud Jim Comey the entire time, Joe, was swearing that this investigation they had into Trump was legitimate,
while simultaneously texting his inner circle
that the whole thing was a steaming pile of flaming horse manure.
Dude, dude, dude.
You see where I'm going with this, right?
Sarah's great, but if she says the people who were involved
were probably above Peter Stroke,
then that narrows it down to Comey, McCabe, and Price.
We're about to find out who stroked Don.
McCabe and Price step.
We're about to find out who stroked Don.
I had to do that, Dan.
All righty.
Yeah, you can't.
You can't contain it.
But at least you're not
doing the pirates anymore.
Done with the pirates, right?
Don't start me.
You get where I'm going with this?
This is a massive scam.
That was a huge revelation
on Wednesday.
Again, the only reason
I kind of
held it for a day or two is not sarah again her swords are great it's just i wanted to make sure i could reasonably explain it to you and be comfortable knowing that there's
other stuff going on now here's the other angle to it that i was kind of holding price step who's
supposed to remember you have comey director, McCabe deputy, Price Step right underneath him and then Stroke underneath him.
Price Step appears in a press release not that long ago about a pretty significant criminal intel operation the FBI was running.
What does that have to do with anything?
Well, the second half of that piece, Carter brings up an interesting point.
She says, I believe, again, she's citing her sources here, that there are people above Stroke,
and we've narrowed it down to those folks,
who may in fact be cooperating.
How does that relate to Bill Price,
who is above Stroke's name appearing on a press release
not that long ago?
Folks, let me ask you just a really simple question.
You're an FBI high, upper- level manager like Bill Price,
that essentially two steps down from the director, right?
You're running the division that investigated Hillary's email case.
You're running the division that investigated Donald Trump's case.
You've also been involved,
at least your name has surfaced in the malfeasance involved in the case.
Do you think the FBI is going to allow your name
to appear on a press release
if you were intimately involved
in some known criminal activity
that was going on right now?
I'm just asking, folks.
I mean, I'm just asking a pretty simple question here,
but I think the answer is obvious.
The answer is, of course not.
I highly suspect, as I've said before
to many people multiple times,
to Joe as well,
that I'm almost 100% confident
that Price Step is still there
because he's providing some information
on the entire operation.
Now, think about that.
This is the guy two steps down
from Jim Comey. Comey, McCabe, Price-Stepp. And he
also supervised Peter Stroke. How incredible would it be if this guy is providing information to a
grand jury on the case on both McCabe and Stroke? This guy is the meat in the sandwich. He's got
McCabe above him and he's got Stroke below him. This is perfect. You can't get any better than
this. That is the guy you want. If there's anybody you want, that's the guy you want, folks. You want Bill Price to talk. And the fact, again,
just to be crystal clear, the fact to be crystal clear here, that his name appeared on a press
release, on the case the FBI is working right now, says to me that there's no chance in hell
that this guy isn't cooperating right now. I would be absolutely astonished if he wasn't. All right. Let's see. We got a lot to get to today. So
that's an important point there. All right. Second thing I wanted to bring up.
Devin Nunes. Nunes has been all over the news and Nunes has been talking about
the case and he keeps saying how there's bigger bombs yet to drop here,
and that the insurance policy basically may not be what we think it is. Now, Jeff Carlson,
who does some terrific work over at the Epoch Times over there, and I have some of his stuff
in the show notes today, I encourage you to read it at Bongino.com. Jeff Carlson has a piece out
talking about what we believe to be the insurance policy now and how the insurance policy, what it was thought to be in the past,
folks, was just the dossier. Now, I laid out for you plan A, plan B, and plan C,
and the insurance policy in light of those three plans should make a world of sense. In other words,
plan A was going to be the unmasking strategy, using unmasking and
national security letters. It also, I believe, may have been the tapping into the NSA database
using these about queries in the NSA database. These about queries, eventually, I believe,
they got caught by Mike Rogers. Plan A got shut down. They had to move to plan B. I believe plan
B was what they were referencing when they were talking about an insurance policy in the case. But what was thought to be Plan B in the past was the dossier. In other words, using political information given to them by the Hillary campaign. I hope you understand this. To continue to spy on the Trump team, despite the fact that their unmasking 702 query operation was probably shut down.
I believe it's bigger than that now.
I believe Nunes, that's what he's hinting at.
And what I believe what happened here, folks, what I believe may have happened requires us to go back a ways.
Joe, we have to go back to something a long time ago, me and you talked
about. And what we talked about a long time ago was what Devin Nunes, right after the presidential
election, when Dan Coats, I promise this will make sense, is appointed to be the director of
national intelligence. He's the big guy now. He's the Trump appointee. They finally get someone in
who's approved and confirmed that nearly the minute this happens devin newness makes his way over to the 18 acre white house complex and he goes over there to look at some
documents remember this joe this is a while ago yeah but i think you may see where i'm going with
this you may not but it's okay because we really discussed this a long time ago but it's critical
now because again i'm getting back to the point that when they move from plan a to plan b plan b
was not just the dossier plan b
may have been something bigger than just the dossier and the new nest trip to the white house
i think points that points exactly to where he's going with this that initial trip over to the
white house is key why folks the way intelligence works within the federal government infrastructures
you as you have these various systems,
you know, the SIPRnet and things like that. And some of the information is so highly classified
that it is not shared on open internet sources, even through encryption. It's kept in specific
locations. And in order for you to access that information, that compartmentalized information,
you have to go to actual facilities to get that information
and you can't remove it from there please follow me here because this is going to make sense as to
how they moved from plan a to plan b the insurance policy and how the insurance policy was not just
the dossier or the political information they got from hillary on trump i think it was bigger than
that now that new nest trip makes a world of sense because if you understand what I just told you, that very specific, sensitive information, Joe, is kept in very specific facilities.
Then why would Devin Nunes have to go over to the White House?
Maybe because the information was only kept on the White House complex.
Now, what would that be?
What kind of information, Joe, would only be kept on the White House complex,
not emailable, not over encrypted traffic.
It's not at any other location.
It's kept cataloged and categorized at one location where Devin.
Now, the Democrats keep in mind,
call this the midnight run. They think he was going over to the White House to coordinate
this with Trump because they're stupid and they're liars. They know it's not the case.
They're just making this up. The midnight run. They're making it up. The reason Nunes went over
there, folks, is probably because this was information briefed to Obama. Now, remember,
the one big hook we have yet to put together,
this is why I told you at the beginning of the show,
the loop is starting to close.
We are finally in, I think, the end months of Spygate
and getting all the information together on Spygate.
The one connection we have consistently failed to make, both here and elsewhere, I shouldn't
say fail.
I've given you some information.
You should put the puzzle pieces together yourself at this point, is the direct connection
to the White House.
Notice, did you ever notice how in the whole Spygate thing, Obama's name almost never comes
up?
Brennan comes up.
Susan Rice comes up.
Jim Clapper comes up.
Jim Comey comes up. Andy McCabe comes up. Joe, don't you find that a little suspicious that Obama's name never, ever comes up. Brennan comes up. Susan Rice comes up. Jim Clapper comes up. Jim Comey comes up.
Andy McCabe comes up.
Joe, don't you find that a little suspicious that Obama's name never, ever comes up?
This is one of those protect the king moments at all costs.
Folks, if that information, information that was in the dossier made it over to the presidential
daily brief, folks, we have a big big problem
we have a water gate water gate what looks like a episode of romper room
it also would explain why you know another reason why bob muller was brought in
remember one of the top doj officials department Justice officials, who would be involved in the vetting of information and the verifying of information used to be brought in front of the FISA court is an individual by the name of John Carlin.
He was Obama's DOJ National Security Division head.
Remember the name.
Of course you do.
He had another job, though, Joe, before that. Bobby M. Bobby Mueller. Of course you do. He had another job though, Joe,
before that,
Bobby M,
Bobby Mueller.
Yeah.
Bobby M.
How was he related to,
Oh,
he was his chief of staff.
That's right.
Now put the pieces together.
What I'm telling you here,
plan a unmasking potential queries into the NSA database.
Remember,
this is all to spy on Trump and take the Trump team down and potentially others
to remember what I told you in that show a while back about the possibility was a Victoria
Newland who said about other dossiers.
Hmm.
Were there other candidates involved, too?
Did we have a massive spying operation on political party opposition being run out of
the white house that mike rogers exposes and shuts down plan b let's use the fisa courts if
we can't spy using the nsa database joe we'll just get a fisa warrant on one of them we'll
use the two hop rule and we'll hop around but we don't have any information for the fisa court
well i tell you what we can do.
Let's keep these two sets of books because I remember this guy, Carter Page.
My name's Peter Stroke, Andy McKay.
Didn't this guy Carter Page working on the Trump team?
Didn't we have some communications with him a while ago?
Yeah, but he was helping us in the Russia case.
All right, let's keep that off this set of books
and let's talk about that stuff on text messages
and on these internal reports behind the scenes,
but let's not tell the FISA court about that. Oh, okay. That's a good idea. Also,
the Department of Justice is going to have to vet a lot of this information, but don't worry,
we got Carlin over there at DOJ, National Security Division, right?
The dossier becomes point number two. It becomes this plan B number two where they bedrock the
whole thing around. You say, well, Dan, how is this not the insurance policy? But Carlson at the markets, excuse me, at the Epoch
Times, he moved over there, has an interesting theory there. He has a theory that the insurance
policy, and I think based on the information he presents, he's a fantastic writer, he may be onto
something, that the insurance policy, Joe, may have been the intelligence community assessment
that was issued at the end of the year after the election.
Remember the intelligence community assessment, Joe?
17 intel agencies have determined that the Russians and...
Thank you.
That may have been, and the dossier may have been a component of that.
This may have been a larger, larger storyline than just about the dossier.
The insurance policy, Joe, was going to be a concerted effort to corrupt our intel agencies into issuing this joint statement to discredit the election almost
immediately before Trump even swears into office. This may be bigger than just the dossier and oppo
research on Trump, folks. This may have been a concerted effort between various players who were
not smart enough to cover their tracks to not only ding up Republican candidates throughout the campaign,
but candidates throughout the Plan A cycle.
When they figured out it was Trump, they moved to Plan B to spy on Trump.
When they spy on Trump and they don't get anything,
they use the dossier and the political information
to put together an intelligence community assessment issued after the election
to be fed right to the press that gives the imprimatur, Joe, of the intelligence community that this in fact happened, that the Russians
overthrew the election, that Trump's illegitimate, that it may have been bigger than just Trump
collusion. It may have been a way to discredit the entire election. Now, again, what does this
have to do with Devin Nunes taking a stroll over to the White House?
Conveniently, ladies and gentlemen, right after Trump appoints a DNI, and he's confirmed, Dan Coats, to be the Director of National Intelligence.
One, Coats probably had some role in allowing Nunes to see the information.
allowing Nunes to see the information. What I believe Nunes may have been looking at over there is he may have been looking at information contained in the presidential daily brief. Now,
I'm repeating myself because I never told you why this is so damaging outside of the obvious.
Number one, Joe, is it directly fishhooks in Barack Obama himself.
What is Obama going to say?
Joe,
the President's Daily Brief
is,
do you think
the President's Daily Brief
is called the President's Daily Brief
because it's used
in the Supreme Court?
It's used to brief the President.
Dude,
you're a genius.
You are,
I don't know what you're doing
in that morning show
in the morning,
taking cognitive enhancers
or fish oil or what. You're clearly a genius genius so you don't think it's used it's not
called the congressional daily brief right it's the president's daily brief it's gonna be pretty
hard folks if information that appeared in the dossier that originated from hillary clinton's
camp that was paid political research made it into the white house because number one it implicates
obama but number two there's a bigger story here yes this is the number one, it implicates Obama. But number two, there's a bigger story here.
Yes, the obvious one is it implicates Obama.
It's called the PDB.
The second story is the Nunes translator here.
Do you notice how Nunes, Joe,
in almost every one of his appearances,
constantly insists that none of this was passed
through official channels?
Intel channels, that is.
It's intelligence, right?
Yeah.
Intelligence that Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians, allegedly, to overthrow
an election is actual and an intelligence product that's supposed to be vetted, like,
and matter of fact, should be extra vetted because of the seriousness of the charges.
I'm not crazy, right?
Understood.
Nunes, and you and I have played gosh 10 20 30 of his
clips on the show maria bartiromo they're all gold newness always makes a point to say how
none of this information came through official channels so ladies and gentlemen let me ask you
a question right because i worked in the white house for five years now granted i did not put
together the presidential daily brief but i I know exactly, exactly who goes in
and how it happens, okay?
I'll leave it at that.
Joe, do you think,
just a wild guess here,
I'm asking you to pause it here.
Do you think the president's daily brief
that the Central Intelligence Agency,
when it's done right,
probably puts forth its best effort
to make sure what they're briefing
the president is in fact true?
Just a guess.
Yeah, I'll guess, yeah.
I mean, why would you think that?
I mean, maybe because they don't want to be embarrassed and they don't want the president to start a nuclear war.
Just a guess, Joe.
You think that could be possible?
They should want to do the right thing with the president.
Okay, right.
So they have official channels of intelligence with multiple vetting procedures and stopgaps to make sure, Joe,
I'll give you like an example.
Like, Joe, Joe lives near Saverna park, Maryland, where I used to live.
There's a Chipotle down there. So if Joe was in the Chipotle and he hears a guy behind him
and the guy behind him is reading a comic book and in the comic book, they're talking about
a nuclear war in the United States. Do you think Joe should pass that directly to president Trump?
Or you think Joe maybe would hand it off to the local police department, to the CIA, that would figure out
pretty quickly by looking at the videotape that
the guy was reading a comic book, not telling a narrative?
Do you think that's probably the way they handle
this stuff, Joe? Yeah, I think that that's
what you should do.
Safe guess, right? We can safely assume
that. Folks,
the presidential daily
brief is one of the most thoroughly
vetted documents you will see in the federal government.
I assure you.
Is there speculation in there?
Of course, there are degrees of certainty in there. the ability to literally, not figuratively, start a nuclear war tomorrow doesn't see stuff that they know is bogus or biased.
Folks, what did Nunes see over there?
When he went over to the White House complex,
because remember, that information is there, Joe.
You see where I was talking?
If you want to see,
that is the key point in this.
Why did Nunes have to go to the White House?
Why didn't he go to the CIA?
Don't let this small tidbit escape.
I covered this months ago,
but this is a critical component
to now squaring the entire circle.
Square the circle, make the edges fit.
Now the case is finally coming together and it
ropes in Obama. Nunes' visit, I believe it was in March, over to the White House complex now makes
all the sense in the world. What were they trying to hide? They were probably trying to hide the
fact that the dossier, a garbage piece of political crappery paid for by Hillary Clinton somehow bypassed official
intelligence channels. And don't tell me for a second with a straight face that John Brennan
didn't know about this. Brennan didn't know that they were circumventing official channels.
That may have somehow made it into the president's brief. Folks, again,
this is the mother of all bombs.
You may say,
ah, yeah, you know, whatever.
You say that all the time.
Because it's true.
It implicates the White House, number one.
It decimates the credibility
of John Brennan's leadership at the CIA.
And it speaks to the weaponization
not only of specific entities,
but of the White House itself
that's probably why Nunes went over there nothing else makes sense at this point remember Occam's
razor keep it simple stupid why else would Nunes go over there why create even the perception
of political partisanship by visiting the White House why Why would he do that? He's not dumb, Nunes.
Because he wasn't trying to create a partisan game,
a midnight run to meet with Trump.
He was going to look at documents
that were only available in those specific facilities
right there.
Why else would he wait till right after Dan Coats,
Trump's nominee for the Director of National Intelligence
position was appointed?
What else makes sense?
The answer is nothing.
Nothing else makes sense at this point.
The Obama team had to know about this.
There was clearly something in that.
Now, to be clear where I'm speculating on this, to be fair to you, I no longer have
any doubt that there was information in the PDdb that was briefed to obama
that somebody was trying to hide none because nunes came out of that and he gave a press
conference afterwards entirely freaked out talking about how some of the information was not related
to russian hacking and appeared political it i mean we have it and i can pull it for monday's
show but we played it on this show before i'm'm not going to ask you to search. Maybe I'll pull it for Monday. That'd
be actually a good call. I got to remind myself to do that. If I forget, Joe, let me know. But
I will pull it for Monday. But needless to say, he comes out of it very freaked out. He makes a
couple of points. Some of the information appeared political and that some of it was not related to
Russian interference.
Folks, clearly something brief to Obama didn't make sense.
Something smelled bad.
But that storyline and that story arc, did you notice?
In the wonkery of Spygate and all the twists and turns and GCHQ and Hannigan, the NSA and national security letters and Peter Stroke and Tex.
In all of that, the connection to Obama has been seemingly lost.
We may finally be closing in on the real connection,
that the White House may have been involved in what happened here.
I know, and I'm confident in telling you you that something that was said to the president, briefed to the president through his specific located intelligence stream at the White
House was probably something they want to make go away really quick. My suspicions to you are
exactly that, that they probably had two sets of books like Sarah Carter sources are saying.
They had one set of books, which was a political strike on Carter Page.
They had another set of books that was actual investigative work done on Carter Page.
The one set of books, whether it's notes, text, 302s indicated they had nothing on page.
The second set of books said we need to spy on the Trump team.
Plan A has been shut down.
Let's just not tell the FISA court what's in these books.
Let's tell them this instead.
Oh, my gosh, folks.
This is like, this is third world republic stuff.
This is unbelievable.
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All right, folks.
So just to sum that up and move on to a couple other things, because this is really important.
And by the way, I'm sensing there's a problem here.
The shift in cooperation in the case.
Chuck Ross has a really great piece I have up in the show notes today at the Daily Caller.
Please check it out upon Gino.com.
It means a lot to me.
Chuck Ross has a piece up now, Joe.
Nellie Orr, who's Bruce Orr's wife.
Bruce Orr was the number four at the Department of Justice.
Knows John Carlin and all them.
Bruce Orr's wife, Nellie, as many of you already know, was working for Fusion GPS,
the company responsible for compiling the dossier.
Joe, ever since the announcement that the texts were going to be exposed,
and to be clear, when I say the text, I'm talking about the text between McCabe and Comey.
What I think it's going to expose
is this second set of quote books
where they were talking about one thing,
ah, Page isn't guilty.
And on the other side,
they're pitching to the FISA court
that Carter Page is guilty.
You get it?
Oh, yeah.
Ever since the word,
Trump was going to declassify the text,
which wasn't really in the,
and you listen to yesterday's show to cover the whole thing about why that matters, right?
Ever since that became public, there has been a stunning turnabout in the case.
And what's the stunning turnabout show?
Nobody wants to talk anymore.
All of a sudden, remember chatty Peter Stroke?
Peter Stroke up there with the smirk.
Remember the smirk?
Joe, me and you get the video.
That stupid smirk he had.
Peter Stroke was so cocky up there on the hill.
There's word, and Chuck Ross has in his piece,
that supposedly Peter Stroke and Nellie Orr now are saying,
we're good with this cooperation thing, daddy-o.
Tell you what, we're just going to stick with this.
You subpoena us, and then we'll talk.
Wait, what?
I thought you were, Peter Stroke, he sat up there,
I did nothing wrong.
So indignant. I did righteous indignation. Nothing wrong. you were Peter Stroke. He sat up there. I did nothing wrong. So indignant.
I did righteous indignation.
Nothing wrong.
I'm Peter Stroke.
How dare you question me?
I'm the number four individual in the FBI.
Now, all of a sudden, he's asked to come back after these texts.
And he's like, I think I'm going to need a subpoena.
Oh, ferret face.
Where did you think of that one? That's funny ferret face i'll never know i can't get
you're right he does have the ferret face right face yeah so stroke and or apparently have stopped
cooperating i'm telling you the reason is probably because of this great analogy of two sets of books
the texts are likely going to disclose that all of the
information was indicating this entire time that Page was in fact not a Russian spy. The information
was political. And once it became more obvious that this information they were getting in the
dossier about Page being a spy, once it became obvious that it was going to fall apart, instead
of going to the court, Joe,
and saying we made a mistake, what did they do?
They renewed the damn thing three times, the FISA war.
I mean, talk about a tragic comedy of errors.
You mean FISA?
Yeah, they're just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude.
Where did you get that?
A listener sent that to me.
Yeah.
You can send, by the way, go to, you're at Joe Haas 1 on Twitter, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Joe watches his Twitter.
I mean, not every 10 minutes like me, but he'll get it.
If you have some good stuff, he's happy to put it.
As long as it's not like it's a family-friendly show.
You got to bleep out the cousin.
Yeah.
He can do it for you, but don't give him any extra work.
All right, folks.
So that's that story.
The Sarah Carter thing is a real bombshell.
I only held it a bit
because I was waiting to hear about Price Step,
and I really believe Price Step is cooperating.
He is the number three in this chain of command.
I think he's going to expose this.
I believe this grand jury's been impaneled. So that's big takeaway number two. One big takeaway number two is I believe I've finally figured out in the Nunes translator what's going on here, that this connection to the White House is probably now becoming very transparent by way of information that was exchanged in these texts. And that's why President Trump is the class finest. So, will I be proven right or I'll be proven wrong within the coming weeks?
But, Joe, I don't think we've been proven wrong in anything yet.
Not yet.
I'm pretty sure we have like a 100% record of success on this.
Freaky, man.
Yeah.
It's been good.
Okay.
A couple other things I wanted to get to.
Just a quick newsy story before I get to this Kavanaugh thing.
Folks, don't freak out just yet about this alleged blue wave.
The reason I say that is there are some signs of life out there in the electorate which
aren't receiving a lot of PR.
Just two quick things because I want you to understand this.
PR. Just two quick things, because I want you to understand this. There have been cases out there,
two specific cases I've seen recently, where we're seeing one critical thing. Yes, I stipulate the point, and you should too at this point, there's a lot of anti-Trump anger. Us ignoring that just
makes us look like idiots, okay? We were angry at Obama, the left is angry at Trump. It's not news,
it doesn't make Trump a bad guy.
You know I support the president.
I'm just saying us pretending that there's not anti-Trump anger is just dumb.
I get it.
Point number two, though, is there is also a feeling amongst a lot of people that for as much as some moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans may not like the president,
they're starting to realize this guy has become a darn effective leader.
We're seeing some small steps in North Korea.
The economy has been an obvious successor.
You have to be an imbecile to ignore that.
We're also seeing some healthcare prices start to level off,
even with the disastrous community rating and guaranteed issue of Obamacare still in effect.
But we're starting to see the economy really pick up and
we're starting to see deregulatory reform. Bottom line is this. Takeaway number two.
One, anti-Trump anger exists. Takeaway number two is candidates still matter.
Joe, you're living through it right now. You bet. Who am I talking about? Who's running for
governor of Maryland? You're talking about Larry Hogan running against Ben Jealous.
Now listen, I'm not really a Hogan guy.
I don't mean, Larry's a nice guy.
We've always been friends.
Matter of fact, I wouldn't endorse him because it would hurt him.
I should anti-endorse Larry, probably help him get elected.
Really, it doesn't, Larry doesn't need me.
I don't need Larry.
But I have to tell you, Larry Hogan has shown himself to be not really a strong conservative,
but a skilled politician.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, I ran in Maryland Maryland Maryland Joe Joe lives there now nobody trust me when I tell you nobody knows politics better than this cat he is on this morning
politics show Joe WCBM every morning and has heard from every politician in Maryland for the last 30
years oh you bet Joe Maryland is not is probably the bluest state in the union.
Yeah.
It's not the biggest, but I would argue it's the bluest.
I have a ton of data on that.
They have a lot of government employees.
The percentage of minority voters is very high.
They tend to vote Democrat.
Those are just the statistics, not my opinion.
Maryland is a very difficult blue state. So in a year where we're stipulating the fact that anti-Trump animus is at near peaks, I mean,
at near psychotic levels, how is it that Larry Hogan, a Republican, is running for re-election
against Ben Jealous, the former head of the NAACP? And the last poll I saw, he's up by like 16
points. Hogan, not jealous. Folks, because candidates matter. Listen, he's not the strongest
conservative in the world. Okay, let's just get over that. There's a couple listen he's not the strongest conservative in the world okay
let's just get over that he's just a couple issues he's been pretty awful on but you have to be
practical in maryland do you want to save your state with larry hogan or you want ben jealous
in charge ben jealous can't figure out how to pay bottom line is hogan has figured out how to kind
of parse the issues in a way where he can appeal to people on the other side.
Candidates still matter.
That's not the only one.
There's a woman down in South Florida running in Ileana Roth's Latham's district.
She left Congress.
She's going to leave, and now it's an open seat.
This is a seat that went for Hillary Clinton by, I believe it was 19 points.
Folks, this was a gimme for the Democrats.
Large Hispanic population in the district.
Again, it's not a secret.
Minority voters tend to vote Democrat more than Republican.
I wish that were in the case, but it is.
It is.
Folks, this was a gimme.
A gimme.
The problem is the Democratic candidate
who won the primary, Donna Shalala,
has been awful.
And the woman on the Republican side,
I believe her name is Elvira Salazar,
you've probably seen her on Fox once in a while,
has been killing it.
She's been crushing it.
And according to the latest polls,
the thing's a dead heat.
One poll that the Salazar campaign
but I had her up by a few points.
Folks, this is a district Hillary won by 19.
Candidates still matter.
I'm telling you this
because I don't want you to give up
in this level.
It's over, over.
Democrats are all fired up.
It's over.
Get the heck to the voting booth and vote.
One more.
Did you hear about the Texas state Senate race?
District Hillary Clinton won by 16.
They just had a special election.
Who won?
The Republican.
No.
Folks, the example, Charlie Baker, again, not the greatest conservative in the world, Republican governor of Massachusetts.
Charlie Baker, latest polls, looks like he's up by double digits again.
Folks, people will still split their ticket for good candidates.
It happens.
I'm just asking you to be patient, get out there and use the 10, 10 and 10 rule.
Vote, take 10 friends with you. You don't want to take 10 friends with you, email 10 friends.
You don't want to email 10 friends, call 10 friends. Heck, you don't want to call 10 friends,
send 10 Facebook messages, 10 tweets before election day about getting out to vote.
We can stop this, you know, so-called blue wave and make it a tidy ball blue
wave, but it's going to require you to get out. And I'm telling you, based on these three examples,
four actually, if you include Baker, that candidates matter. Not everybody's going to
be a diehard conservative, but they're better than what you're going to get. And even if we
were to elect big time rhinos in rhino districts and Democrat districts at a minimum, Joe, at least we'll keep the committee chairmanships and not have to look at potential impeachment charges, which would destroy the Democrats.
They would be horrified.
It's important.
All right.
I want to finish up on this story because it's really important about Kavanaugh.
There's a really good piece by it's in the New York Post by this guy. So we say his name wrong. I'm sorry. I'll put it in the New York Post by – this guy's so
– I always say his name wrong.
I'm sorry.
I'll put it in the New York Post.
You can read it.
I don't want to mispronounce his name.
I don't want to disrespect him.
But I pronounce it wrong sometimes.
But it's a great piece about the real reason liberals are freaking out right now about
Kavanaugh and why these charges that appeared at the last minute by this Ms. Ford here,
why this is probably not the end, Joe.
They're just, they're freaking out.
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for a reason, Joe.
And it was a really elegant point
that I think we should all note.
I tweeted it out.
I quoted a piece from it.
Liberals are freaking out, Joe,
because just about every victory
that they've had over us
in the culture wars and elsewhere
has been, has been won, not via popular opinion in the vote, but it's been won via the courts.
Now, here it is.
This is the quote, because this is very telling, and I want you to never forget this.
The importance of liberals winning the court is critical because liberals do not have public opinion on their side.
Public opinion is
needed for what? You're to win elections. Getting elections means getting your people in there and
a republic that will enact your agenda. When they can't do that, which liberals rarely, if ever,
can, they figure why try to convince 330 million citizens of the United States if they only have
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or a woman in a black robe on a court.
That's why liberals love the courts.
Here's the quote.
This is killer stuff.
Why they're panicking over Kavanaugh.
Quote, the short answer is that liberals fear their major cultural victories of the past half century
are democratically illegitimate.
Not a single one was won at the ballot box
going back to the Supreme Court's 1965 Griswold decision,
which recognized the constitutional right
to contraceptives from abortion to gay marriage plus the host of less titillating issues modern
liberalism has lived by the court and liberals fear their cause will die by the court unless
that is they block conservative encroachments into the judiciary by all means necessary bingo damn is that a good piece now it made its way onto
drudge it's been moving around it's at the show notes today it's super short it's probably 500
words that was just you can read that in a minute please read it though because you need to
understand the fight we're in i'm bringing this up because folks, even after these very questionable charges,
I think we can all agree at this point against Kavanaugh, even if Dr. Ford does not appear by
Monday, which I don't think she's going to do. And at that point, Kavanaugh with country has
the right to move on. You were given your opportunity. You didn't take it. Don't be surprised if another Saturday night surprise shows up too.
Joe, do you understand what Sorab is telling us in this piece?
He's telling us this is the end for them.
Sure.
That once we get Kavanaugh on and we have originalists,
people who interpret the law and the Constitution as it was written,
not as they'd want it to be, right?
What he's saying in this piece is that it's not going to get any better for them after
that.
Right.
Now, I'm going to tell you what he really means by this.
There is obviously Ruth Bader Ginsburg is getting old.
I don't read into that anymore.
I'm not, I don't, I'm a Christian man at heart.
I'm a sinner, but I don't wish ill on anyone.
I'm just saying as a matter of chronological time, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who happens to be a liberal, is getting old.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is likely going to have to retire at some point from the Supreme Court.
Democrats are not stupid.
They see the economy turning around.
They see what happened with Reagan.
Remember, we might hit 4% growth this year.
What did Reagan hit in 86? Was
it 4, 6? And then he went up to 6 the next year. Democrats, Joe, this is what's going on in their
melons. They see the writing on the wall that this economy may just be at the beginning of a
massive growth spurt. That worries the hell out of them. You say, what do you mean worries them?
Folks, take it to the bank, cash the check, spend the money and invest it.
I'm telling you, they are terrified that this economy may be at the beginning of the recovery,
not at the end.
Realizing that in the next election, if Trump wins again, and we have six more years of
this, the likelihood of Ruth Bader Ginsburg retiring, obviously by a matter of simple
chronological time,
retiring by that point goes up dramatically every year. Now you're not just looking at a 5-4 majority on the Supreme Court. You're looking at a 6-3 or, God forbid there's a tragedy,
someone else were to pass or if someone were to retire, that could happen too. You don't know,
people retire all the time. Okay, Kennedy, a 7-2 majority. You are looking at a decades-long generational shift in the Supreme Court that the
Democrats may never, ever get back. Not only are you looking at the Supreme Court, remember,
you're looking at the circuits and you're looking at the district courts as well. Folks, the
Democrats would have nowhere to go.
Their majority is not popular.
They can't win legislatively on these men in the women's room agenda.
They need to convince judges in black robes. If they don't have the judges in the black robes anywhere to go, what would they have to do, Joe?
What's the only fallback?
The only fallback is to get people to vote for them, which they can't do.
They don't have popular appeal on just about any of their social issue items. None. fallback the only fallback is to get people to vote for them which they can't do they can't they
don't have popular appeal on just about any of their social issue items none abortion up till
the day of birth they don't this is what they want they don't have it they don't have it so
they're seeing now are you understanding what why kavanaugh to them is this is it they're figuring
if they can stop him here joe again morals out the window
they will do anything the democrats have shown they have no morals i so i said to you and i
meant that i wake up every day thanking the lord i am not a democrat i would never do to a human
being what they've done to kavanaugh right never no once this don't be surprised when this goes
away we'd miss ford if another's charge, they will hold this thing open, this seat.
They will stop Kavanaugh at all costs.
I don't think they will, by the way.
I think we're okay.
I just want to be clear.
I don't want to leave you in a bad note, especially on a Friday.
I think we're okay because I think the Republicans now see what's going on.
And Chuck Grassley, for all my beefs with the Republican senators, Grassley's done a masterful job of handling this he's given
Ms. Ford every opportunity to speak or
mine which was the right way to handle it
in my opinion
they're going to try to delay this thing
and make it a campaign issue
and after the campaign if that seat is
still open it will become Joe
the 2020 referendum that the presidential
candidate runs on because
remember if they can stop kavanaugh
it's now joe 4-4 it would be a there'd be an empty ninth seat their whole thing and liberal
liberals and activists this will be the call i should have mentioned this earlier
they're not just they're not just doing that to to excite liberal voters hey vote for us and look
we'll flip the supreme Court black the other way.
Look at the dipsy-do flip-a-roo we picked.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
We'll keep this open throughout Trump's entire presidency.
Then we elect whoever, Elizabeth Warren, and we get a liberal and it becomes, look at that, we just flipped them.
Instead of going to the potential 7-2 conservative majority I just told you about if Trump wins re-election, right?
But the smart liberals, keep in mind,
say nice and then say good liberal.
I said the smart ones that have the money,
from what I'm hearing,
are marshalling all of their money behind this efforts.
I'm talking about, you know some of the names.
People with the big money,
I'm not going to get into who they are,
but you know who they are.
They're marshalling the big money, Joe, behind this effort now, understanding fully what's at stake.
And when I say the effort, I mean exactly what I just said.
Keep Kavanaugh out no matter what you have to do to him and his family.
Keep that seat open for two years.
Get a liberal in there and nail that liberal majority down on the courts forever.
The liberal people with the money understand fully what's at stake,
that if Trump wins re-election,
it's over for them for decades.
They are laving you through the courts
to get their agenda passed
to having to convince one judge
instead of 330 million Americans is over.
And they know it.
That was a fun show today.
Yeah.
I had a good time.
Good week.
Joe and I were dealing with little complications
and some stuff, but I really enjoyed today's show. I hope you did too, folks. Yeah. I had a good time. Good week. Joe and I were dealing with little complications and some stuff,
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