The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 813 It’s Going to Get Really Ugly This Week
Episode Date: September 24, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the coming chaos surrounding the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. You’ve never seen anything like what’s coming. I also address President Trump’s stunning comm...ents about foreign intelligence involvement in the Spygate scheme. News Picks: This piece addresses the main targets of Bob Mueller’s witch hunt and the mysterious lack of any “collusion” charges. Rosenstein must be fired. Andy McCarthy makes the case. Was the whole collusion fairy-tale based on a flawed intelligence assessment? This Chuck Ross piece dismantles yet another piece of the collusion fairy-tale. What is Andrew McCabe’s lawyer up to? Was Rod Rosenstein really threatening to wear a wire in meetings with the president? Another questionable accusation about Brett Kavanaugh. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Folks, you are about to witness.
If you follow me on Twitter, I tweeted this out.
It may not be news to you.
Many of you don't, so I'll tell you here.
You are about to witness this week absolutely unparalleled psychopathology from the far left.
I'm getting this from very, very good sources.
Let me explain to you how so I don't just throw out there. Sometimes people say that.
I got sources.
Here's what I do.
I'm not going to tell you who because they'll kick me off their email list.
But I subscribe to very specific email lists on the far left.
I also follow some specific accounts on Twitter.
And by following those accounts and going to those accounts, I told Joe this many times,
I can get a kind of unique insight as to what the left is doing.
I don't want to say unique.
I know other people that do it, too.
But some of them have been outed.
So on one of the email lists, the left is preparing this week with regard to the Kavanaugh sabotage hit job.
Right.
The left is preparing for an unprecedented level of destruction.
Folks, they they now I said this on Friday and what happened last night, as predicted,
a new allegation has surfaced from Ronan Farrow and The New Yorker about Brett Kavanaugh being involved with some exposing himself incident in college.
Also, Joe, a creepy porn lawyer, Avenatti, who has the credibility of a fire ant, is putting out allegations that Kavanaugh was involved in some kind of sexual assault.
It's so hysterical, the allegations that I don't, you know, it's hard to take Avenatti seriously.
I warned you.
Follow me on Twitter if you're interested in this stuff.
I don't need any new followers I'm just saying that
because I get this stuff
and that's the first place
I can put it out
you are about to witness
unprecedented levels
of destruction
you are about to witness
unprecedented levels
I'm talking about
political destruction
and sabotage
of people's lives
now
here are a couple
of things you're going to see
and I'm going to explain
to you why
because you're not
going to hear this in the mainstream media why why they're doing what they're doing.
Folks, it's not just that they want Kavanaugh stopped, okay?
That's obvious.
They want Kavanaugh stopped.
Yeah, great.
You don't come here for that kind of analysis.
There's a reason they're panicking now, all right?
I'll get to that in a second, but here's what they're going to do.
This is from them.
I'm not making this up.
Number one, Joe, there's big money organizing this. This is from them. I'm not making this up. Number one, Joe, there's big
money organizing this. This is not free. If you read their emails and you join their conference
calls, Joseph, and you listen to what the left is saying about the Kavanaugh thing,
they will bail you out of jail. They are providing free transportation.
They are providing legal services.
Joe, who do you think is paying for this?
Are me and you paying for it?
No.
No, no.
This is big time left wing groups.
I'm not going to say who, but you can probably figure it out.
There are big time left wing groups organized right now spending huge amounts of money to make sure this Kavanaugh nomination disappears stat.
This is not free, folks.
This is a sophisticated, organized sabotage against a more than qualified candidate for
the United States Supreme Court.
Again, I'll get to why.
Don't go anywhere.
Yeah, you always hear George Soros, you know.
I don't know if he's involved or not.
I kind of knew where you would go with that.
Seriously, I could predict it.
Here's number two.
They're providing training.
They're providing training on specific days this week.
Some of it's already happened on how and what to do.
Again, this is sophisticated.
This is not some grassroots effort.
This is a sophisticated, organized effort to take this guy down.
I already mentioned the free transportation.
They're preparing for multiple scenarios, folks. This is a sophisticated, organized effort to take this guy down. I already mentioned the free transportation.
They're preparing for multiple scenarios, folks.
So the GOP, which has shown itself, sadly, to be this feckless this week and week.
You know, I'll get to that in a second, too.
They are prepared for all scenarios.
They were prepared for a vote on Monday.
They're prepared for a vote on Thursday. They're prepared for hearings on Monday and Thursday.
They are preparing for a vote on Thursday. They're prepared for hearings on Monday and Thursday. They are preparing for multiple scenarios.
Again, hammering home the point,
so you don't for a second think this is a grassroots,
ground-up thing.
This is an organized, top-down thing.
It is very sophisticated, ladies and gentlemen.
Know your enemies here.
Do not for a second underestimate the capabilities of what's about to happen this week.
They are preparing for unprecedented levels of what they call civil disobedience, what I'm going to refer to straight up criminality.
They are going to block entrances to offices.
They are going to sit there and disrupt hearings in an unprecedented manner.
and disrupt hearings in an unprecedented manner,
you are going to see some very, very serious,
serious protesting this week in an effort to almost entirely shut down
what's happening in the government.
The blocking of the entrances are going to happen
at very specific offices.
Why?
Because if you signal a moment's weakness here,
which many senators like Susan Collins and Jeff Flake have,
you become a target for the left. Jeff Flake is going to become a target of this group.
Expect his office to be absolutely deluged with people.
One more note on this before I move on as to why this is happening. So now you know what they're
going to do. Folks, I got this from the horse's mouth. I'm not making it up. I have no interest
in misguiding, misleading my audience anywhere.
This is the stuff that's actually in the works, has been planned.
Take it to the bank.
I tweeted on Friday this stuff was going to happen.
And sure enough, on Sunday night, all of it started to come out.
Now, with regards to Flake, what I'm also hearing is Flake is the one holding up this entire process.
I've warned you about Jeff Flake for a long time.
Jeff Flake's legacy will be single-handedly to keep the liberal dominance on the Supreme
Court or to keep the split and not allow the Supreme Court to return to its original intent
and an original interpretation of the Constitution as people elected Donald Trump to do.
That will be Jeff Flake's legacy if he submarines this whole thing.
It is Flake from Arizona.
Now, you may say, folks, if you live in Arizona, well, what can I do?
I deeply respect so many of you, by the way, that sent me emails saying, I did what you said, Dan, or asked.
I don't, you know, I request things.
You're my audience.
I respect you.
A lot of people said, I emailed my senator's office. I called the office. You know, be cool about it. You're my audience. I respect you. A lot of people said, I emailed my senator's office.
I called the office.
Be cool about it.
You know the deal.
We're not liberals.
I don't need to lecture anybody.
But I'm asking you in Arizona.
I know Flake isn't running again, but Flake is about Flake.
He has always been about Flake.
Flake has other ambitions, potentially to run for president,
to absolutely bombard this guy's office with emails and phone calls.
Be cool about it.
Again, I'm not lecturing anybody, but it's important that we do that.
We don't want to take that liberal baton on that.
But be cool about it and bombard this guy's office with emails.
He is holding up this whole thing, folks.
It is Flake doing this.
Grassley, McConnell do not have the votes. They don't have the votes right now, and it's because of people like Flake doing this? Grassley, McConnell do not have the votes.
They don't have the votes right now, and it's because of people like Flake.
Well, they need one more to fold, but they are not going to take a vote with any uncertainty here at all.
Now, let me leave you on this before I get to the why and what's happening.
Folks, if the Republicans blow this, I was absolutely furious.
I was out.
I don't mean to tell personal stories
because I have a lot to get in, but it's important here
because it relates to the understanding of
what's going on in the field and how
Republicans who listen to this show on the Hill,
and I know you're out there, please.
I know the good guys who listen. I know the bad guys
who listen too. You are grossly,
grossly underestimating the
fury of the Republican base if you blow
this. Joe, I know you were getting calls on this on CBM this morning.
Oh, man, yeah.
People are furious like I haven't seen them since Obamacare.
If you blow this Kavanaugh thing and blow this seat on the Supreme Court,
folks, forget the midterms.
Let me be clear.
I am not because I deleted a tweet this weekend because of this.
Don't misinterpret what I'm saying.
Get out and vote.
Bring 10 friends with you.
There are absolutely no excuses.
I don't care if the thing goes down.
If it goes down or not should not affect your vote.
I do care if it goes down.
But if it goes down or not, you still have to vote.
Why?
Because even though the Republicans have shown themselves to be feckless cowards, a lot of
them up on the hill, the alternative in the Democrats is absolute destruction of Donald Trump's presidency. That's the alternative. This is not a situation anymore
of good or bad. It's bad or worse. So don't misinterpret what I'm saying about voting one bit.
But I'm telling you, if they blow this, that there's no amount of motivation I can give to
people to overcome their absolute vitriolic volcanic rage at the Republicans
blowing this opportunity here.
You guys better step up and take this vote this week.
I cannot warn you.
I was out on, I was out at, you know, I go out with my wife once in a while.
We get it, we get it sometime and we went out.
Yeah.
And we were having a good time.
And I genuinely enjoy spending time with my wife.
I know it's not really, but just bear with me for a second, folks, please.
I enjoy it.
I really do.
And it's my only day off.
It's it.
I don't get Saturdays off.
I work on Saturdays.
I get Saturday night into Sunday off.
I just wanted a few minutes.
But you know what?
My wife, who's been patient with me and understands this, sometimes these fights, you don't get a few minutes but you know what my wife who's been patient with me and understands is sometimes these fights
you don't get a few minutes
and I sat there at this bar restaurant
we were at right up the block from my house
and I sat there tweeting
you can look at this time stamp on it
it'll go to Saturday night if you think I'm making this up
and it was me furiously tweeting
at the Republican Party
after delaying this thing till Thursday
the vote till Thursday
that you're blowing this.
Now, folks, why was I upset?
Two things.
Now we're getting to the why portion.
The Senate Judiciary Committee and Grassley delaying this appearance by Ms. Ford, the
accuser of Kavanaugh, until Thursday rather than Monday, the Democrats have already won now they've won
a battle let me be clear they haven't won the war but they won the biggest battle of all Joe
knows where I'm going with this yes that Thursday date was very strategic by the Democrats and the
Republicans got rolled rolled why because if the vote is taken on Thursday rather than Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday,
the chances of Kavanaugh being seated for the October 1st public sessions of the Supreme Court
are now gone. Now you are going to have a Supreme Court that's seated with a 4-4 split
and anticipated originalist legal constructionist votes we anticipated Kavanaugh making will not be made.
The Democrats have already won.
Ladies and gentlemen, why do you think the Ford legal team, Miss Ford's legal team out there, why do you think they were pushing for Thursday?
All they needed to do was delay the vote three days and they now have they've already won.
That battle is now won.
Grassley should have never, ever folded.
They made an extremely, extremely poor case here to the public.
They offered Monday.
They offered Tuesday.
They offered Wednesday.
Joe, please tell me this makes sense, because I said this to my wife,
and she goes, Dan, you've got to say that on the show.
Oh, it's the stall, baby.
It's the stall.
It was the stall, and the stall until Thursday was all that mattered.
Right.
Battle number one was moving it till Thursday so Kavanaugh cannot be seated for the upcoming session.
Democrats have already won.
They rolled the Republican Party.
Now, there is a chance at saving this nomination.
The October 1st thing is already gone.
Kavanaugh will not be seated.
That you can almost guarantee.
They've already rolled the weak Republican Party.
Grassley has a chance to redeem himself a little bit here.
Call the vote.
Call the vote this week.
Because here's what's happening now.
Strategy one, Joe, was move it till Thursday.
Strategy two is they cannot,
under any circumstances, have Dr. Ford testify, especially under oath, folks. They cannot.
Please, I'm begging you to take this check to the bank, cash it. I'm telling you, the holes in this story are mountainous in size.
She has provided, Ms. Ford, three witnesses who have all failed to corroborate this story. Some
have engaged in outright denials that it happened. Did you hear what I just said? Dr. Ford has
provided three witnesses, not Kavanaugh. She's accused him of very serious things
that her witnesses strongly, strongly dispute.
Her story is questionable at best.
From what I'm hearing,
and I'm going to, gosh, if I put this out,
if I'm wrong, I'll have to take
it back but I'm hearing there's no way she's going to show for that Thursday hearing or if
she shows there's no way it's going to happen now if she does again but the people I trust on this
who I've been all weekend I've been working on this show for you because I wanted you to come
here and get a full scope of what's going on.
The people I trust on this are saying there's absolutely no way she testifies on the road.
Because the story has too many holes in it, ladies and gentlemen.
She's opening herself up legally to some very serious things if this story turns out later on to not be true as she's telling it.
She's not going to be there on Thursday.
Now, the Democrats, folks, remember, they've already won battle number one, delaying it till Thursday, which was a critical day.
But battle number two right now, in case you're not picking up what I'm putting down, is to at all costs avoid the embarrassment of pulling her testimony on Thursday.
Because make no mistake, for as biased and hackish as the left wing media and the now evil Hill Democrats, there's no question.
We're talking about unadulterated evil here, the destruction of a human being based on uncorroborated stories and the complete failure to provide any evidence
whatsoever. Remember, as Rush Limbaugh said, accusations are not evidence. Accusations are
accusations. Evidence back up the accusations. They are destroying this guy's life, but the
Democrats take it to the bank no full well. They cannot, under any circumstances put Miss Ford under oath because
when the story falls apart they are opening themselves and Dr. Ford up to some very very
serious liability now why am I telling you that with regard to what happened last night which was
anticipated if you read my tweets. They needed a backup plan.
Plan A, delay, delay, delay until Thursday.
Get it on the record, the Thursday hearing.
We cannot let this Thursday hearing happen.
We have to have a backup plan.
The backup plan is going to be to run
with additional unsubstantiated, uncorroborated stories
like the story we heard last night from Ronan Farrow and Ms. Ramirez
that allegedly at a party at Yale,
Judge Kavanaugh in some kind of drunken card game
or whatever they were playing, exposed himself.
The story is even more weakly sourced than the Ford story
because allegedly Ms. Ramirez has said multiple times to reporters that she
can't, she wasn't sure initially that it was Kavanaugh that did it. Right. There is no corroboration.
There's no evidence. Matter of fact, people who they claim are at the scene cannot corroborate
the story at all. Folks, this was the backup plan. The backup plan was to throw out more uncorroborated,
unevidenced, unsubstantiated charges,
and what immediately happened as predicted.
What did Dianne Feinstein do,
the ranking Democrat on the committee?
She sent a letter asking for what, Joe?
Cancel all the hearings this week.
Why?
Wait, why, Joe?
Why cancel the hearings?
What does Dr.
What does Dr. Ford's
under oath testimony have to do
with Ms. Ramirez's
new uncorroborated, unevidenced
charges? What do they have to do with one another?
You want
to hear from Ms. Ramirez? Bring her in. Put her
under oath too. That's not what they're asking.
That's not what
they're asking, Joseph.
They are asking for all hearings to be canceled ladies and gentlemen i'm telling you if it happens on thursday and dr ford
testifies i'll have to take it back but i am telling you if you want my opinion again i'm
i can't predict if i'm not zartan or whatever here. It was that guy from Big.
Remember that movie Big with Tom Hanks?
I can't do any of that stuff.
I'm just telling you, I am basing it on all the evidence I have,
some quality sourcing, and my experience as an investigator in the past.
I would be absolutely floored and astonished if Ms. Ford shows up on Thursday.
They're deploying a strategic plan B with more unsubstantiated
charges. Now, here's what's
going to happen. I have never steered
you wrong on this show.
If Grassley doesn't
fold, Republican
the chairman
doesn't fold
and by doesn't fold
I mean doesn't agree to delay the hearings
like Feinstein's asking
basically they want this whole thing canceled mark my words you are going to see more and more
and more of these substantiated uncorroborated charges and they are going to get more hysterical
folks they're going to go from uh sexual assaults to exposing himself to gang rapes to I'm telling you it is going to happen
I've seen I know what's going on with these guys follow the I wish one day I could put their email
groups out there but if I do they'll block us all watch what's going to happen now this is why I
said in the tweet it is up to you if you have yet to do so.
Call and email your senators.
I don't care if they're Democrats or Republicans.
Call their offices and absolutely under no uncertain terms demand the vote is taken Thursday.
We've already lost one battle.
We've already lost one battle for Kavanaugh to be seated before this next term.
We cannot afford to lose a second one.
If it is delayed past Thursday, If it is delayed past Thursday,
if it is delayed past Thursday,
ladies and gentlemen, it's over.
And the ramifications, I think,
during the midterms will be severe.
Again, I'm not telling you not to vote.
There is nothing keeping me from the voting booth and or bringing 10 friends.
I'm telling you, though, I cannot control,
you know, I don't have,
I'm not Thanos, okay, with the Infinity Stones here.
I can't control people's behavior.
They are pissed.
I heard it in the gym.
I heard it in the barbershop.
I heard it at a restaurant.
I was in a pottery barn in the Palm Beach Gardens Mall.
I ran into three people, talked to me for 20 minutes while my wife was buying an outdoor couch.
They were on fire, volcanic over what's going on
here. If you blow this, it is over. You will get destroyed in the midterms. It is your jobs at
stake. It is not ours. Folks, they cannot, they absolutely cannot blow this. Now, one final note on this because i've got so much to get to it was such a busy weekend
you know i've got cuts for you don't forget your cuts i don't know if you want to use them or not
but here yeah i know i know i'm just i want to make sure i get this is important okay i just
want to remind you oh if you don't have the spine for this, I don't mean this as an insult either.
Well, there's no other way to say that.
But I'm saying this to lawmakers, activists, and others.
If you don't have the spine for what's coming,
turn off the TV this week.
No, I'm serious.
Turn off the TV this week
if you don't have the spine for this.
Because the fight coming this week is manichean
the left has drawn a red line they do not have an emergency break on their behavior like we do
conservatives believe in big our rights granted by god even big our rights granted by liberals
there is nothing we you can get us to do to physically attack people punch them in the face
we don't do that not because it it's just the wrong thing to do,
but because our very credo prohibits it.
You're big R.
Now, we will defend ourselves.
We're not suckers.
Don't take that the wrong way either.
But we will not do what the far left is capable of.
They have no emergency brake on their behavior
because they don't believe in big R rights granted by God.
They believe in the power of the state.
And what is at stake, Joe, with Kavanaugh?
The absolute discretionary power of the state using the courts to overturn things that happen in your life and to govern over your life in a tyrannical manner.
That is what it's at stake.
They know Ruth Bader Ginsburg, her seat is going to be open at some point in the future as well.
The left is drawing a red line right now.
If you don't have the stomach for this tune out,
because you're not helping if you're weak need,
because people smell weakness, people sniff it out.
And if you're in a group and you're going to encourage others to be weak,
I'm asking you with all due respect to stand down.
If you do have the cojones and you got the nerve and you got the fight in you for a seriously Manichean fight right now, now is the time for you to step up and do.
Talk is cheap. Now is the time for you to call. Now is the time for you to email. Now is the time
for you to Facebook your support, for you to send tweets for your support. Now is the time for you
to email your friends to call. You have got to get involved in this fight and get your fingers dirty.
The left has drawn a red line.
I'm telling you this is as important to them as the election was.
If I could, I would, but I cannot put the email on my email list that I saw this weekend.
Again, they'll kick me off.
The email is horrifying what they're planning.
I'm sorry, but one real final thought.
Folks, this is not about Kavanaugh.
Kavanaugh is a casualty of war to the left.
This is about the left's allegiance, their love affair with the big S all-powerful state. They are losing it.
They are losing the courts. They're losing the circuit courts and their last refuge is going
to be the Supreme Court. They are putting everything in this full-blown blockade and
obstruction. Everything. It's time for us to step up and fight back. And please, please don't interpret anything I'm telling you
about these weak-kneed Republicans as an encouragement not to vote
because your vote is against the other side at this point.
And there are some decent candidates running,
but please don't interpret it.
That's why I deleted a tweet this week.
Some of you know what I'm talking about
because if people were misinterpreting it as believing you should stay home,
under no circumstances, no circumstances should you stay home.
There are no perfect choices in life.
Your choices are right now between, sadly, a lot of feckless Republican candidates
and outright evil, malicious Democratic candidates who are taking the entire,
they're going to watch the whole thing burn.
Get your early votes in. Oh, I don't like early vote. I don't care.
This isn't the time to make that fight. Get it on the ballot then. Get your vote in early. You could,
God forbid, you could die. You could have a heart attack. A kid could get sick. Get your vote in
early. I hear people tell, I don't want to condone early voting. Don't care. Get it on the ballot
then. This isn't the time for that so you got a bunch of
democrats who sink their votes in early you got a couple hundred republicans who get sick and can't
show up on election day get your vote in early please god and i'm not using his name in vain i'm
begging you hear me on this get out and do the right thing these people are this is a, we are in an existential fight here for what we believe in.
All right. Hold on. I had a photo on something I just wanted to put out there. Hey, just one
more thing on the, I know I keep, but it's important. Regarding the New Yorker and the
new accusations, just a couple of things I got in an email last night from a friendly list I'm on.
The New Yorker was not able to find a single eyewitness to the alleged Ramirez event, number one.
Number two, multiple supposed witnesses named by the accuser again deny the event took place.
Number three, people who knew the accuser, Ms. Ramirez, after Yale say she never described this incident until Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination was pending.
Don't forget it.
All right, moving on,
because I got a lot more to get to.
Gosh, this news cycle,
it's almost impossible to stay ahead of it.
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Okay.
Secondly, I've been getting a lot of requests on Friday.
How did you miss that interview with Hannity
where Trump said about the Australian,
no, about the foreign intel friendlies
who asked us to slow roll the information?
I didn't miss it, folks.
I don't talk about things
until I feel like I have something to add,
even when it's central to the thesis of my book.
A couple of things are going on here.
Joe, you have that Nunes stuff ready to go? Ready to book. A couple of things are going on here. Joe,
you have that Nunes stuff ready to roll? Ready to go.
Devin Nunes, who is always a wealth of information. We can stop right in the middle. Joe's got all kinds of new technology over there now. Let me load it up on the other cart machine.
Sure. Do your thing. So folks, here's what we got going on right now.
President Trump gave an interview on, what was it, Thursday night to Sean Hannity before the rally in Las Vegas.
In that interview, he's asked about the declassification of the FISA documents, the texts between Comey and others, and the 302s, which we've been talking about for a very long time.
Now, President Trump has delayed the declassification of that and sent it over to the Inspector General's office for review first.
A lot of you
are understandably upset i probably received i kid you not close to three to four hundred emails this
weekend people on fire wait yeah it was i know man wife and i read them all and it was a lot
i get it i understand you're upset i am too i want to explain to you though what's going on
but in explaining to you what's going on,
you first have to understand that in context of what Devin Nunes said this
weekend and an interview with Fox Nunes.
Sorry.
I always say his name or Nunes on it.
That's disrespectful to say the guy's name wrong,
but I'm going to do it on purpose on Fox and friends this weekend.
He gave an interview.
Now it's a long interview.
I'm not going to go through the whole thing.
So we're going to stop it throughout,
but I'm going to play to you the beginning and tell you what's going on.
I'm not apologizing for it.
I still think he should have declassified.
But I want to explain to you what's going on and why these foreign intelligence outfits that are friendlies are so worried about what's going on.
Play that interview.
The president alluded to key allies calling and saying, don't release this.
Could that be the Brits and the Australians
who don't want us to know what happened during the Obama administration?
Yeah. So first of all, think about this. If the Brits and the Australians are calling our
government to say, don't release the contents of a FISA or the Bruce or 302s, how would the
Australians and the Brits know what's in there? How would they know what's in there?
Wait, wait. Okay. Go go ahead play a little more in there they don't have access to it so it's okay for
the brits and the australians to know about this but not for the american people to have
transparency that story doesn't hold water what we do know is that we have a former foreign minister
of australia who is the ambassador in in London, who was meeting with Trump campaign officials.
And he brought rumor intelligence to the State Department that opened up the investigation into the Trump campaign.
We know that that guy has changed his story four different times.
Yes. Now, if you've been listening to the show since
episode 628, none of this
is news to you at all. What is
Devin Nunes saying? Notice number one.
I don't know if you picked this out, Joe.
When Ed Henry, who does a terrific job
on this interview, by the way, on Fox & Friends,
proposes to him
that it is the Brits and the Australians,
did you notice Nunes doesn't fight back
one bit on it? Matter of fact, he doubles down and says, what are the Brits and the Australians. Did you notice Nunes doesn't fight back one bit on it? Matter of fact, he doubles down and says,
what are the Brits and Australians?
In other words, de facto answering the question
without answering the questions.
You picked that up?
Yeah, I did.
Did you miss that?
No, no, I got it.
Okay, I know you didn't,
but I'm saying to the audience,
did you miss that?
Because that's important.
Because now we know President Trump
was not specific in his interview with Sean Hannity
about how foreign intelligence,
how friendlies had basically asked him to delay the declassification,
who exactly it was.
Now I think we can stick a fork in that one.
And we know, in fact, it was the United Kingdom and the Australians.
Why does that matter?
It matters for two reasons.
And that's why I stopped that.
Or there's more to this.
I'll get to a little bit more.
But I just got so much to get to here.
But there were two takeaways from that. Number one,
how do the Australians and the United Kingdom know what was in the FISA warrant?
Ladies and gentlemen, they don't. It's not the FISA warrant per se. I they they they are worried about the fisa but for separate reasons
it's not the fisa they're worried about it's paragraph one that worries them it's the
the the scope memo of why the fbi started investigating a political candidate for
president in the trump team at all that matters. And did you notice how after I'd stopped it,
what does he seamlessly move into Nunes?
He moves into the Alexander Downer,
George Papadopoulos story.
Folks,
you got to learn.
What do I say all the time in the show,
Joe?
We need a Nunes translator.
Nunes is very smart.
He doesn't release classified information.
He can't,
he won't.
He has been doing a spectacular job, a notable job, but he doesn't say too much at once because he doesn't want to jeopardize the investigation. But there's enough detail combining the Nunes translator with what's out in public to figure out where he's going. Because remember, Nunes knows the whole story. The whole story.
Let me put these pieces together for you now, using the Nunes translator.
First, why are they worried about the Pfizer?
They don't know what's in there.
They're not.
They are, but for separate reasons.
I'll get to that in a second.
They're worried about something else.
He then seamlessly moves on to tell the Downer story.
What does that tell you?
Well, if you listen to Nunes carefully, what does he say about Alexander Downer,
the United Kingdom diplomat who meets with,
excuse me, the Australian diplomat,
I'm going to be very clear,
who meets in the United Kingdom in London
with George Papadopoulos
and according to the New York Times,
tells his sources that Papadopoulos discussed emails.
He's now backtracking on that completely.
I have an article in the show notes today.
It's an absolute must read by Chuck Ross of The Daily Caller, where now even Downer is saying, Joe, and I quote, where is it here?
Downer, Downer, Downer.
That there was no nefarious, nothing, quote, nothing nefarious about the meeting.
Downer is now completely retracting this whole story.
Are you starting to put up, put together what I'm putting, pick up what I'm putting down in this?
Nunes also mentions how Downer went to where?
Where?
What is he saying that?
He doesn't say Downer's, whoever was associated with Downer
went to the FBI or the CIA, Joe.
He says they went to the State Department.
Is it making sense now
why these foreign intelligence entities
want Trump to delay the texts,
the 302s and the FISA?
Here it is. Let me just put it out there. I don't want to play games with you anymore. 302s, and the Pfizer. Here it is.
Let me just put it out there.
I don't want to play games with you anymore.
I'm not trying to tease you.
I just need to lay down the steps before we build the Lego house.
Foreign intelligence entities, Joe, are about to be embarrassed on an international scale
like you've never seen.
We have a long-established five-eyes relationship.
New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom. established five eyes relationship new zealand new zealand australia canada the united states
the united kingdom we have a long uh history of sharing intelligence through official channels
i've explained repeatedly why these official channels exist they exist so that bad intelligence
is vetted before it goes back and forth between the countries to prevent an international nuclear
incident uh or worse if we are going to share information with
New Zealand, the United Kingdom, we want the information to be vetted by intelligence
professionals. Ladies and gentlemen, that does not include the State Department. The State
Department's intelligence capabilities are limited at best, are nothing compared to the 17
other intelligence agencies that do this for a living.
What Nunes said in the Nunes translator there is that they basically, the United Kingdom and
the Australians are about to be embarrassed because information managed to make its way
through their political channels back into the United States intelligence channels,
not using traditional Five Eyes intelligence channels
where it would have been vetted.
Folks, please tell me you get this.
Joe, stop me if I'm not making sense.
We're good.
The way this would have worked
in a standard intelligence sharing relationship
is UK Australian intelligence to US intelligence,
professional channels on both ends,
proper vetting,
information makes it to lawmakers
and decision makers in the United States. That is not what happened. That is not what happened. That's why Nunes moves
seamlessly from the FISA right over to the Downer meeting. And in the Downer meeting,
conversation mentions the State Department and not intelligence. Nunes has repeatedly said,
a Maria Bartiromo's Fox show and others, there is no official Five Eyes
intelligence used to start this case.
What does that mean, Joe?
That means paragraph one was a
political event, not an
intelligence event. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding, ding.
This was a political
investigation from the start,
not an intelligence one.
You've got to apply the Nunes translator.
Now, he mentions the FISA, I believe, in the beginning.
Again, I'm digging in a little bit here, but their big concern here, and again, I don't agree. I'm
just trying to explain to you why Trump may have done this we do have significant intelligence sharing relationships with them now based on ongoing
terror threats these five eyes countries so I don't mean to minimize that I I want to be clear
where I stand I think that decision was a mistake I support the president but I have to tell you
what I think is right they need to declassify this now.
The demands and the needs for the American people to know far outweigh what the needs of foreign intelligence entities
and what happened here was so critical that if we don't get answers,
and folks, I'm sure, the president's going to do the right thing.
He's going to do the right thing.
I wish there weren't a delay.
There is, but he's going to do the right thing. I wish there weren't a delay. There is, but he's going to do the right thing on this.
I'm confident of it.
But it's not just that they're worried
about the informal intelligence channels
that were political.
Again, it wasn't intel to intel.
Australians, UK intel, US intel.
That's not what happened.
It went through political outlets first.
An Australian diplomat
downer downer was not an australian intelligence asset he was a diplomat folks it was a political
investigation that's why this is so embarrassing for the united kingdom do i have to do this again
let me read this to you one last time because I know liberals who read this have a tough time.
Joe's heard this headline so many times,
he's probably tired of it.
Here it is, folks.
April 14th, 2017, CNN Politics,
by Jim Sciutto, Pam Brown, and Eric Bradner.
British intelligence passed Trump associates'
communications with russians
on to u.s counterparts ladies and gentlemen i guarantee you those channels were political too
they were political what do i mean by that whereas the downer meeting understand what
i'm telling you was a political to intelligence channel downer was a politician. He was a diplomat.
He was on the political side.
He passed his information to who, Joe?
The U.S. State Department.
Diplomats.
Political appointees.
Not to official intelligence channels.
Why is that headline from CNN so devastating?
Because the United Kingdom's about to be embarrassed again because people
associated with british intelligence reversed the flow reminds me of ghostbusters you know reverse
across the streams across the stream remember that that's so stupid that movie when you look back
what happened whereas downer was political into the intelligence, laundering information into the intelligence field
in the United States, Joe,
the British intelligence channel was the reverse.
UK intelligence, I strongly believe,
and our book covers this pretty extensively,
British intelligence and associated intelligence officials
laundering information into the political arena
in the United States.
Now, let's go back to square one. I just told you that intelligence like this is supposed to
be passed from intelligence to intelligence bureau to make sure that the information is
clean and vetted. On neither case did that happen. British intelligence passed information to politicians,
not intel to intel.
Diplomats and politicians passed information to US intel,
politician to intel again.
Get it?
Got it?
Good.
This is huge.
That is what Trump was hinting.
That's what Nunes was talking about,
the Nunes translator.
And that's why it's critical you understand what's going on.
Intel to intel,
political to intel, that's why it's critical you understand what's going on intel to intel and political to intel that's what happened that exposes paragraph one as this being a politically
motivated investigation from day one and from the get-go folks this is huge this is really
really important stuff this is devastating this case is all starting to unwind on them and the Democrats
are panicking completely. By the way, that's also why this Kavanaugh obstruction red line effort
works for them well. They need to get this out of the news. Under any and all circumstances,
this case is going to get really ugly, really, really fast. Okay.
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peter stroke one of the questions we've been getting a lot about peter stroke
is why was peter stroke not fired by the FBI sooner? You all know Peter Stroke was the
lead investigator, was a senior level manager in the FBI on both the Hillary Clinton email case
and on the Trump Russia case. The texts, of course, with his girlfriend and FBI lawyer,
Lisa Page, were made public. He was embarrassed. He was kicked off the team.
But I got an interesting tip on Peter Stroke that I wanted to pass on to you
because this is also one of the guys, a reporter at the New York Times who is still covering the case, and I find this fascinating.
I, Dan Coats and Jeff Sessions early in the Trump presidency talking about an effort to weed out leakers within the United States government. This happened not long into the Trump presidency. They
gave a press conference on it. So it's not a secret that there's been an ongoing effort to do
that. I had suggested to you a while ago, Joe, that I think they left Peter Stroke in the FBI
instead of firing him as long as they did because Peter Stroke was being targeted
as a potential leaker. And he may have been being fed, Joe, this is important. He may have been
being fed intentionally false information to see how the information got out. Now, I got an
interesting tip this weekend on something. Now, here's a quote from a Sarah Carter piece. Again,
you know who you are, so thanks for the tip.
Sarah Carter writes in a piece titled,
A New Stroke Text Page, The Times Is Angry With Us About the Washington Post Scoop.
Listen to this, Joe.
Peter Stroke writes in a text message to Page about a writer named Michael Schmidt from the New York Times.
Quote, Also, apparently, The Times is angry with us about the Washington Post scoop
and earlier discussion we had about the Schmidt piece that had so many inaccuracies. Too much to
detail here, but I told Mike, redacted, this is probably another Mike, and Andy, they need to
understand we were absolutely dealing in good faith with them. Whoa! Hey, now.
Great pickup.
Now, the Stroke Canary Trap has been a subject of this show for a long time,
but this is a text.
You're right.
This was a great pickup.
Do you see what he's saying there in the text to his girlfriend?
Siri.
Funny.
Siri thinks it's...
Do you hear Siri?
I said, serious, not Siri. Be quiet quiet siri she's all mad at me now
this is a great pickup in the text stroke is clear as day that this michael schmidt piece a guy who's
been involved in a number of joe scoops here wrote a piece with a lot of inaccuracies and he says in
the following sentence joe but we've been dealing with him in good faith.
Well, how were those pieces inaccurate
if Peter Stroke was the lead investigator in the case?
Folks, again, I'm not telling you to fall in love
with the Sessions Justice Department.
I am really, really, at this point,
done with a lot of what's going on.
I'm going to get to Rosenstein in a second, too.
I just want to leave this here.
Maybe Peter Stroke wasn't fired
and they kept him on to the end
because this fool was being set up the whole time.
He's texting his girlfriend
about all these inaccuracies
in a case he's working
and simultaneously,
or excuse me,
in the same tweet,
subsequently,
to be precise,
subsequently says in the exact same tweet,
but I was dealing with him in good faith.
Well, where did you get the inaccuracies from?
How many people are about to go down?
Again, I'm frustrated with the Sessions-Justin's apartment.
I'm going to get to that in a second
with Rosenstein and everything else going on.
But I just want you to smile a little bit, folks,
that there may be people
who have been inadvertently
a part of multiple canary traps,
leak traps,
who have been feeding
intentionally inaccurate information
that was fed to them on purpose
to out them.
That may be what's next.
I have only told you for the last, what, Joe,
six months,
that the problem with this case
that all of the spy gate participants
are going to have
are not the political ramifications.
It's the legal ramifications of leaking potentially classified information.
Classified information to reporters, which is a crime.
Crime.
Also has a lot to do, I believe, with what's going on with all these leaks about Rosenstein as well.
Now, I got a lot of negative feedback from you, which is fine.
I don't put my email out there to hear everybody love me all the time,
although I do get upset when people take personal shots.
There's no need for that.
I love you all.
I don't need that.
But some people were very upset, and they sent me emails about my coverage of the Rosenstein incident.
Rosenstein must be fired.
I am not backtracking on that one bit.
Now, I will stipulate, and it should have been clear, that yes, it should happen after the midterms.
We can't lose here, folks.
There's no room for error here, and it's right around the corner.
I should have been clear on that. Mark Levin is my buddy. I love Mark to death. Mark is a
prescient human being who is way ahead of this stuff, but Mark and I don't agree on everything
all the time. The thing I've always loved about Mark is Mark's not the kind of guy that if you
don't agree with him, he writes you off. Mark likes independent thinkers. I mean, I'm just telling you,
I'm not trying to give you behind the scenes into the character of Mark Levin. I know Mark
over a long time at a very personal level. He's one of the finest men I've ever met in my entire
life. But I'm not sure that this may be a trap.
Mark believes the leak about Rosenstein.
You know what?
I'm sorry.
I didn't set that up right.
And my apologies.
The story leaked out on Friday night.
I'm assuming you all know, and I shouldn't know that.
The story, I shouldn't say that.
The story leaked out on Friday night in the press that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had threatened
to wire himself up while talking to the president in an effort to remove him using the 25th
Amendment, which enables a majority of the cabinet and a super majority of the Senate
and the House, if the president fights it, to remove the president for mental or physical
incapacitation.
Are we tracking, Joe?
the president for mental or physical incapacitation. Are we tracking, Joe? And the story was that the leak provided to the reporters here, the Times, was that Rosenstein was a central player in this,
that Rosenstein had suggested the idea that he wire up to show just how mentally incapacitated,
you know, air quotes there, that the president was. The story was a huge bombshell. Unfortunately,
it's been lost over the weekend and all the other stuff now mark has a theory that this was a trap
that the memos andy mccabe wrote which document this andy mccabe was the number two with the fbi
may have been a leaked intentionally as a way to get Trump to fire Rosenstein to create a political revolt and to
get Trump, in fact, impeached. I don't disagree that McCabe and his team, that this should be
considered a possibility. I don't. And I don't disagree that this can be a trap.
But I don't believe that the trap and the firing of rosenstein are the
same story are you picking up what i'm putting down some like the trap theory is that if they
fire rosenstein now that it's a trap before the election i agree they shouldn't fire rosenstein
now but rosenstein must go now i so just to be clear it just because it's a trap doesn't mean it was a good one.
Am I making sense?
I think so.
McCabe's team, the allegation is that McCabe's team may have leaked the memos
because the meeting with Rosenstein about the 25th Amendment and the wire
was with Andy McCabe and Lisa Page.
The allegation is that McCabe is leaking these memos now
because him and Rosenstein don't like each other.
They want Trump to move and fire Rosenstein
so McCabe's legal team in an effort to hurt Trump further is going to create a political revolt as
the left goes crazy about the firing of Rosenstein like they did about Comey and McCabe in turn can
distract Trump get him out get him out of office and McCabe maybe gets a legal pass on his legal
liability and what I believe are a lot of serious serious cases yeah there you go you get make sense folks i'm sorry if i got long-winded there but it's
important you understand this i i want to separate the two stories though this is what i'm trying to
do if it was a trap and you believe that it doesn't mean it was a good one okay i believe
rosenstein has to be fired whether it was a trap or not granted after the midterms and I want to lay out the case for you why right now why I think this is important Andy McCarthy has a
terrific must-read piece at my show notes today upon gino.com which lays out in incredibly in an
incredibly elegant fashion exactly what's going on with Rosenstein and why he has to go stat after the
election. Number one, Rosenstein does not deny the story, Joe. His denials of trying to enact
the 25th Amendment and wiring himself up are very, very generic. He calls the story inaccurate and factually incorrect,
but he doesn't call out the specifics of the story.
Second, as McCarthy points out,
which is a brilliant analysis,
Rosenstein says,
I don't trust anonymous sources
because this was an anonymously sourced story.
Really?
Joe, trust anonymous sources because this was an anonymously sourced story really joe what else was anonymously sourced that rosenstein relied on to sign the fourth pfizer oh the dossier so all of a sudden deputy i didn't forget that by the way folks i did not forget i
this story i want to this is how i circle everything back together okay i'm gonna get to that i didn't forget that initial story how rosenstein doesn't
believe anonymous sources the whole pfizer warrant was based on a dossier which was basically
anonymous sources in russia that are never named shazam shazam is right did you read the dossier
russian intelligence official one who's that oh i don't know it's all anonymously sourced number three uh what is this gosh what did i write here
oh he says in his denial i'm sorry sometimes it's hard to read my own writing i write like a doctor
i wish i thought like what he says there is is no basis rosenstein's rebuttal there is no basis. Rosenstein's rebuttal.
There is no basis for the 25th Amendment to be enacted.
The president is incapacitated mentally or physically.
We're not saying is.
This meeting happened in May.
Right around the time of the Comey firing.
No one's asking you now how you feel.
We're asking you what you said in May of 2017
when you met with McCabe.
Folks, you have to understand Rosenstein
to understand what happened.
This is a non-denial denial, Joe,
which says to me it happened,
which says to me again,
whether this was a trap or not
doesn't mean it's a good one.
I agree with Mark and others,
he should not be fired now.
But after the election, this guy has to go if the deputy attorney general of the united states
of america had a credible conversation about removing the president by a de facto impeachment
using the 25th amendment he has absolutely got to go for talking about what is essentially a soft coup.
Oh, you don't like the language?
Too bad, so sad.
That's exactly what that is.
He has got to go.
No question about it.
Now, you have to know Rod Rosenstein to understand what's going on.
I worked for Rod Rosenstein when he was the United States Attorney in Maryland.
Rod Rosenstein, his entire career
has been a fence walker.
He walks down the middle of the fence
and never takes a position either way
that's going to alienate either side.
Read Andy's piece.
He lays it out in detail.
What happened to Rod Rosenstein?
And why is he looking to become
a senior member of the resistance right now?
Because folks, he was a Bush appointee that Obama confirmed this guy his entire career has made a living out of never alienating either side of the political aisle and taking positions that would
ingratiate himself to both Democrats and Republicans what happened Rosenstein wrote the Comey memo. Remember when Jim Comey got fired?
The memo Donald Trump based it on?
Rosenstein wrote that memo
believing he was going to straddle the fence again.
Why, Joe?
Comey was hated at the time
by both Democrats and Republicans.
But as McCarthy points out,
Rosenstein grossly misread the Democrats.
Priority number one for the Democrats, Joe,
was what? To attack Donald Trump. They all of a sudden needed a way to hit him. They saw this
firing of Comey as an opportunity. They threw Hillary Clinton overboard, even though Hillary's
team still hated Comey, and they used it as an obstruction of justice charge. Rosenstein panicked.
He freaked because the Democrats went after him, never realizing that that was going to happen.
Rosenstein thought he'd be a hero to the Democrats.
Look, I got rid of the guy who cost your candidate the election.
I think he's a nut.
Yeah, they did.
And they went after Rod.
And Rod didn't like it.
So Rod spent his entire time, Rosenstein,
trying after that to re-ingratiate himself back with the partisan
left. What did we have? We had the special counsel probe. We had the fourth FISA being signed by who?
Oh, Rod Rosenstein, right after that. We have this conversation allegedly about the 25th Amendment,
when you understand Rod Rosenstein's history as never taking a position on either side,
You understand Rod Rosenstein's history as never taking a position on either side.
And Rod Rosenstein's desperate efforts after signing the memo to get rid of James Comey and being blamed by the left.
Look, Rosenstein's in on this too.
Fire Comey.
Obstruction of justice.
Rosenstein had to spend the rest of his time kissing the collective butts of the left.
And this is what he did. This is where this 25th Amendment comes from.
This is where the Fth amendment comes from this is
where the pfizer warrant comes from this is where all of the comey uh the backtracking on comey and
all that the back channel leaks against trump comes from and this is where the ingratiating
himself to the left comes from he is trying to make penance folks now do you understand my case
for all you people who email me thank you you. I appreciate your emails. Don't fire Rosenstein. It's a trap. It may be. It doesn't mean it's a good one.
It's an awful trap. Folks, we are not talking about good choices here. As I said to my wife
this weekend, we are talking about bad choices and worse choices. The bad choice is to fire
Rosenstein after the election. The worst choice is to not fire Rosenstein after the election the worst choice is to not fire
Rosenstein after the election he is the puppet master of this entire thing he has got to go
full stop read the McCarthy piece you will be absolutely convinced now one final note to tie
it up I did not forget initially I started talking about Devin Nunes and how the
United Kingdom and the foreign intelligence outlets were exposing, were a fear of being
exposed, the political to intel channel in what should have been an intel to intel channel.
But I said to you, Nunes does mention the FISA warrant and the dossier, but he asks an interesting
question and immediately moves on to the downer meeting which
covers the political to intel channel they're trying to hide the information laundering operation
why did he mention that he mentioned that because everybody now knows i'm take it to the bank folks
cash that check everybody now knows the dossier is a complete total hoax. Everyone.
Nunes knows full well that the United Kingdom does not have access
to what happens at our FISA courts,
but what do they have access to, Joe?
Christopher Steele,
who is a former British intelligence agency
with deep connections to people
still involved in the UK intelligence community.
The United Kingdom intelligence community, take my word for this, I'm getting this from good,
good folks, is absolutely horrified at what Steele did. Steele became a mercenary. He sold
his services and his connections to the United Kingdom intelligence outlets to put a fake dossier together that made its way inside of the FISA warrant.
Again, turn on the Nunes translator.
How would the United Kingdom and the Aussies know what's in the FISA?
They don't, but they sure as hell know what's in the dossier provided by their guy who humiliated them.
And now it's all gonna come out not only the political
to intelligence channel instead of the intel to intel one they were responsibly supposed to enact
but also their guy's fake dossier was used in a united states court system
as the sole basis to spy on a political candidate.
Where's the fan, Dan?
Where's the fan?
That one is going... I know, I know.
That one is going to sting, isn't it?
That is why the United Kingdom is balking on this.
Man, was that a stacked show.
Please read the show notes today.
I have also a full summary of the Mueller probe that Matt Palumbo put together at Bongino.com.
It's in the show notes.
That explains to you.
I want you to send it to your liberal friends what everybody's been indicted for and prosecuted for.
And you're going to notice one thing missing in all of the layout.
Collusion.
There's no collusion anywhere.
Matt did a great job.
That's there today.
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