The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 828 New Information Threatens the Anti-Trump Narrative

Episode Date: October 15, 2018

Summary:In this episode I address Trump’s terrific performance during the "60 Minutes" interview this weekend. I also discuss revealing new details about the Spygate scandal that point in a troubling direction. Finally, I debunk liberal talking points about “fair share” economics. New Picks: New details emerge about the Anti-Trump dossier.    Chuck Ross’s new piece addresses potential legal trouble for Glenn Simpson.    This Chuck Ross piece unravels the Papadopoulos/Downer meeting.    Why CNN must destroy Kanye West.   Big news: Hillary Clinton’s security clearance is no more.    More ANTIFA chaos this past week.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today here we go again dano yes big monday big week thank you last week for another great week of listens we really appreciate it got a lot to get to as always, including if you missed, Joe, am I right here? If you missed last night, Donald Trump his interview on 60 Minutes

with far left activist Leslie Stahl pretending to be a journalist in 60 Minutes. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry. I know 60 Minutes is a liberal show. You don't want to give them ratings, but you have to break the rules sometimes. Yesterday, I tweeted out last night, if there was a ceremony, a formal ceremony, Joe, for owning the libs, Donald Trump's interview last night was a hallmark of what that formal owning of the libs ceremony should look like.

It was the greatest, bro, 20 minutes of television I think I've seen in forever. So I have a cut from that. We're going to play it in a little while. Also, just astonishingly deep interview with Representative John Ratcliffe, who has been all over the Papadopoulos

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uh so from yesterday's 60 minutes interview one of the things i like about donald trump and i want to get across this because i don't i want one of joe knows this about the show one of the things i don't want to do is do empty commentary. Just say, oh, yeah, Donald Trump on the lips. Great. Rah, rah. Great. That's terrific.

That sucks. But I want to provide some, right. I mean, you know, a lot of people do that. That's what I love about Mark Levin's radio shows, that he doesn't do that. He goes into deeper stuff. So one of the things I want to cover here is what Leslie Stahl tried to do and how you can learn from what Donald Trump did last night and why Donald Trump resonates with an increasingly large number of Americans that have surpassed party labels.

In other words, whether they considered themselves in the past moderate Democrats or Republicans, they align with Trump. And it's because he fights back and he understands framing. He understands framing. How to frame a question so that the question advances a pre-existing storyline or what we call a narrative on this show. And it's not really designed to be a question at all. The media does this all the time. It's the oldest example in the book, but it's the most illuminating and the best is the, you know, when did you stop beating your wife question?

It's not a question, folks. It's designed to frame a narrative. It's phrased as a question, but it's not a question. The answer is, I don't beat my wife. Therefore, the narrative is the Republican's evil. The Republican is going to be character assassinated. And the quote we're going to put on the front page of the Baltimore Sun or wherever is, you know, candidate X says, I don't beat my wife. And then everybody says, what? Oh, my gosh, there's allegations he beat

his wife. Do you understand, folks? That is what they do. They do it all the time. They frame questions to Republicans in a way to advance a pre-existing narrative. Now, Leslie Stahl tried to do this with Donald Trump last night, who he did something incredible. I want to play the cut. I want to show you how he absolutely destroys the effort to frame the question to advance a narrative. Play that cut. I never knew how dishonest the media was. I really mean it. I'm not saying that as a soundbite. I never knew how dishonest. I'm going to change the media was. I really mean it. I'm not saying that as a soundbite. I never knew how dishonest. I'm going to change the subject again. Well, no. But even the way you asked me a question like about separation. Yeah. When I say Obama did it, you don't want to talk about it. No.

When I say I did it, let's make a big deal. I'm going to run your answer, but you did it four times. I'm just telling you that you treated me much differently on the subject. I disagree, but I don't want to have that fight with you. Hey, it's okay. Leslie, it's okay. In the meantime, I'm president and you're not. Oh! Oh!

I watched that not live, but live on 60 Minutes, but of course it was taped interview and i looked at my wife we're sitting at the kitchen table we're having some brisket we're eating and i looked at her and she looked at me and we both at the same time we didn't have to say anything just broke out laughter like this is the ownership of the libs this is what i'm talking about owning the libs has to be a commitment in your every it's a lifestyle owning the libs own the libs this is what i'm talking about owning the libs has to be a commitment in your every it's

a lifestyle owning the libs own the libs today own the libs tomorrow own the libs on election day own them next year don't give them a second don't give them a reprieve at all own the libs every day now how did he break the frame the framing of the which he asked, but I didn't play the whole thing, but she had asked the question about the separations policy at the border to which Trump responds correctly so that this is not his policy. It's the Flores consent decree that kids can't be held for more than 10 days in a detainment facility. Therefore, if the adult with them broke the law, the kid has to be released. So if you're a Democrat, I don't understand what you're arguing for. You're arguing for prolonged detention of children. I don't get it. Now, Trump understands that, but the media is not interested in telling you the truth about the Flores consent decree at all or Trump's role in it. Not even a little bit, Joe. What they're interested in is painting Trump as Satan. Satan.

That's exactly. Is that the three stoog painting Trump as Satan. Satan. That's exactly. Is that the three stooges? Yeah. Curly. Yeah, it's embarrassing. I didn't know that like right off hand. But this is their goal. This is what they want to do.

They want to paint Trump as this evil, morally inept, just horrible human being. So when Trump then goes in and actually explains what's happening, Leslie Stahl has to cut that off. Why? This is important, folks. When you're in the media business, you figure this out. I've been in this a long... Joe's been in it longer than me.

That's all right. But I've been in this now since 2011. This is seven years. I think I've done between CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and others, probably close to 1,500 hits. They call them hits. It's like a media term. In this business, radio and otherwise.

And there's a thing Trump has mastered, which Leslie Stahl knows, too, but Trump tried to figure it out. The last word always matters. Always. Leslie Stahl knows that. Hence, Joe, in her clip there, clip there in a cut you can play it again if you want you know you guys have the rewind button in that clip you'll notice leslie stall is desperate to cut him off as he's giving this answer about the media and how they paint him

as the bad guy notice the now let's pay attention to the frame this matters folks you have to understand what's going on some of you are going to become activists some of you are activists some of you may become candidates the frame in the beginning the framing of the question designed to get the i don't beat my wife narrative right it's it's not a real question right is you're an evil guy for separating kids at the border. She thinks she's going to make them dance on it and say, you know, kids are awful or whatever. He doesn't do that. He immediately changes the frame to what?

Think, folks. You heard it. Think about what he did. This is the brilliance of this guy in dealing with the media. He changes it immediately to a frame about how sucky the media is. And she senses it. She's not stupid. No.

She's not dumb either. She's an activist for liberals. She's a tactician. She's not dumb. Don't make that mistake. Oh, you're stupid. That may make you feel good, but it's not true. Leslie Stahl's not stupid.

She's been doing this a long time. She understands the frame, Joe. The frame has changed. Now to an argument about the media. Now Trump has taken the football and he's playing on. Now he's back down in the opponent's end zone. He's getting ready to rock and roll.

You know, he's getting ready to horrible example. My sports analogies have been way off lately. He now, let's give an MMA analogy, something I'm more familiar with, okay? Go with what you know, brother. You want to, you know, seriously.

Mixed martial arts analogy. There are stand-up fighters, and there are ground fighters, and there are stand-up and ground fighters, but you're always better at something. I'm a good guard guy on my back. He is now on the ground grappling, and the opponent desperately wants to stand up,

and he won't let it happen. She tries to stop. She tries to get back on her feet because she wants to do the boxing. Trump doesn't like that. He likes playing guard. He likes playing the Brazilian jiu-jitsu game on the ground. So he gets you, and he sucks you in, and they can't control it anymore,

and he doesn't know what to do, and Leslie doesn't know what to do, how to respond. It's now gone from a framing piece about Trump's evil intent when it comes to immigrants and how bad and awful of a guy he is to a straight up debate about how crappy the media is, which she knows she can't win folks. These pieces with Trump don't add. They're not not you can't subject them to simple analysis

i don't mean to oversell this but i really never cover a topic on this show unless i feel i can add something however small to your life and over time the cumulative knowledge base i think from being here will help you out a lot i I only know it because I've been, not because I'm trying to claim some kind of intellectual high ground. I've been beaten a lot of times by this stuff when I first started running for office and fell prey to it. When you see what they're doing, it's not really a question. When you understand that and you change it back to areas you're comfortable with, like Trump, with these attacks on the ruthless media, he wins. Now, one last point on this and we'll move on

because I don't want to beat it to death, but if you're ever doing this, you're doing interviews. Remember, the last word always matters. Always matters. Why? Joe, it's simple. You've been on, I mean... Man, it's the last thing you hear, man.

It's the last. Yeah, it's just not complicated. That's what you want to remember. Yeah. Right. There's a... You know, I remember in you know studying the nodal distance effect when your information nodes and it's a complicated way of saying one of the last

pieces of information you encounter is the one most likely to stick in your mind now is trump thinking in his head about the nodal distance effect he's not he doesn't have to why joe he's a natural at this i'm president and you're're not. You're playing it now. He's Joe. I did not tell Joe. He loves this so much. He's already cut the darn clip up. We've only been in the show for 12 minutes and 11 seconds. It's him. Joe's doing this all on his own. This is how those are the kind of things that stick. Nobody remembers now. So just to take it from the left's perspective how badly leslie stall got owned in this the initial question is not a question it's an effort to reinforce the fact that trump does not like immigrant children a fake complete garbage narrative it's not a question

no she wants to play the stand-up game trump tact tactically sees it. Whether it's, he's never, he doesn't have to study the media. He's been into this whole life. He just knows it. It's like, you know, why Derek Jeter could hit a baseball to the opposite field

better than most players. He just knew the inside-out swing. Right. Can he explain every nuance of it? Probably not. He can explain basic mechanics, but he just has the neuromuscular capability to do it. Trump just gets it. He gets explain basic mechanics, but he just has the neural muscular capability to do it.

Trump just gets it. He gets that this is a trap. He moves immediately into a different argument about how you're questioning him different than now that you brought up Obama. She tries to stop it. Trump understands he must get the last word in and he hits her with,

well, I'm president and you are not. And everybody goes, oh, joe and we were not we didn't play joe three two one let's both scream out i'm watching joe joe's watching me i see joe rocking back from the show i know he's good and it's just a natural you're like oh oh man oh this guy it's just the ownership of the limbsbs is just a lifestyle with this guy. He just gets it. And what Leslie Stahl, 60 Minutes, and liberal America doesn't get is Americans. Again, I can't speak for everybody.

I'm not the designated spokesman for 330 million Americans. I'm telling you based on, granted, a lot of anecdotal experience, but having run for office in the last cycle and knocking on thousands and thousands and thousands of doors in both the last election cycle and the one before that. People crave, I'm going to use a term that sounds oxymoronic, but it's not. People crave genuine authenticity. Genuine authenticity. You said the same thing twice. No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't. Here's what I, I'm going to get, I'm going to get into the, you know, I might as well just get into it now, but authenticity, genuine authenticity is different than authenticity. What do I mean by that? Look at a guy who is air quotes authentic

or fake authentic and a guy like Trump who's real. Who's a guy who's fake authentic? The biggest scam I've seen in politics in gosh, since the initial Obama election when they paint the media, painted him as a moderate. Robert O'Rourke,

who calls himself Beto or Beto. robert o'rourke who calls himself beto or beto beto o'rourke down in texas running against cruz the biggest scam ever they paint this guy as like the next coming of barack obama oh he's so authentic he said folks there's nothing authentic about this guy running for senate texas at all He is a standard run-of-the-mill politician who grew up in a connected family. Joe, he skateboards. Democrats are wetting themselves, getting their depends on, he skateboards. Oh my gosh, he skateboards. Let me tell you something.

And I mean this. Again, I don't discuss the show with Joe in advance a lot because I like his authentic reaction. You want to meet an authentic guy, meet Joe Armacost. No, I mean it. Okay. Joe is a music loving. He's had some scruffs when he was a kid. We've all had our problems.

He's had his ups and downs with jobs. But he gets up every morning at 2 o'clock. He goes to work. He has had real troubles real Americans have. He's had to deal with them. He's had to get dirty under his fingernails. This is a real dude. Now, that's authentic.

There is nothing authentic about Beto. Nothing. This guy's a standard, run-of-the-mill politician who skateboards. Wow, Joe plays the guitar. Whoa! Maybe, Joe, you should run for office. And he sings. This is a talented guy.

A talented guy. Yeah, I mean, he takes, I mean, he's invested his entire life in little Joe. I mean, Joe does other things, too. People may think, didn't you and Joe used to do the stock car things? Oh, slot cars. Yeah, we used to race slot cars. Sorry, slot cars. Yeah. Oh, Joe, run things too. People make the, don't, don't, didn't you and Joe used to do the stock car things? Oh, slot cars. Yeah. We used to race.

Sorry. Slot cars. Yeah. Joe run for office. Joe Armacost does slot cars. Oh my gosh. You can like, I seriously folks.

Yeah. Joe never ever talks about this on the air and I don't talk about it with him. Not because I don't care. Joe's an interesting cat. It's just, that's not Joe's identity. Joe's Joe. Like that. He does stuff is great, but it's not like, Hey Dane's identity joe's joe like that he does stuff is great but

it's not like hey dan i played an interesting chord on the guitar oh wow joe run for office the democrats wet their drawers over every single guy the media paints as authentic they're not authentic folks you want me to let me prove this to you. The contrast with Beto and Trump. How the Democrats are total, complete frauds, right? Beto. Watch any Beto interview. I cover this on my NRA TV show all the time. Because my producer, producer Denise, loves the Beto story. Because she's from Texas.

I mean, loves to cover it. She's a Cruz supporter. Don't get me wrong. But she brought up a great point to me the other day. Watch any Beto interview, Joe. It is the exact same answer to every single question every time every time it is some canned response beto has been told now like oh he has these unique positions he don't have any unique positions in

texas he's a gun grabber he's a democrat running as a democrat in a red state who skateboards oh he skateboards i'll get the depends i'm gonna wet myself get a hold of yourself these golden calf worshipers oh my gosh they worship the golden calf people don't worship trump and the democrats like to paint it that way that's not the case they see a guy they know has flaws who's acknowledges those flight and run from it but he's had to build stuff in the real world he's had to deal with you know union people city bureaucrats shaking them down you know organized crime in new york he had to actually build stuff oh my gosh you know he may have had some some women growing up okay at least he didn't lie about it like clinton you know and the guy so what the guy's got some scars great at least when you ask him a question

he fires back bombs like everyone else does when they're attacked by the media constantly. I'm not kissing the guys, but I have no interest in doing that. Zero. I'm just telling you what the media continues to miss about this guy. And it's the reason Beto is down almost 10 points to Cruz and Trump's popularity continues to go up is that Trump is genuinely authentic. The rest of these Democrats are total frauds. He skateboards.

Whoa. He skateboards in the Whataburger parking lot. This thing's gone viral. His skateboard videos go viral. He's going to take your money. He's going to take your health care. He's going to take your guns. But he skate your health care he's gonna take your guns but he skateboards and he eats what a burger who gives it who cares i eat chipotle you don't see me like

elizabeth warren pretending i have mexican american heritage i'm i'm one 512th mexican american are you no not really but i ate Chipotle. What the hell is going on? Why do you need that? People will die. People, they will die. If you don't believe, that's going to be her next life. I haven't even touched Warren yet. If you don't believe her new claim that she's won 512th, people will die. People will die. This is insane. I swear I only wanted to cover this for two minutes, the owning of the libs by Trump, but it is important. The takeaways here are critical. Understand the framing of questions to advance narratives that are not questions. Take the frame, throw it it on the ground kick it and break that

frame break the frame and destroy it i don't even like it because then the liberals being so violent you know what i'm saying i'm talking about the framing of the argument leave the violence for the liberal that's their thing all right but take the frame and masterfully deconstruct the frame change the argument to your comfort zone. Watch the media cringe and make sure you get the last word in. That's how you beat these guys every single time. And most importantly, give answers that are not canned. Trump just talks like a normal person. He tells you what Obama did.

He tells you why you're a fraud. Then he tells you, and basically I'm the president and you're not. And boom, he's done. There was one more point in that interview. I didn't give Joe the sound because I seriously only wanted to spend a few minutes on this, but it's such a bigger topic. There's another point in that interview where Leslielie stahl from 60 minutes asks him for a pledge that he's not going to shut the muller probe down and like normal everyday people who

have been under relentless assault from a witch hunt fraud investigation like bob muller's running what does he respond pledge i don't need to pledge you what do i need to pledge to you for i'll do what i want up yes yeah i imagine beto giving that answer never because a focus group didn't tell it to him people focus group i don't know donald maybe that's not the answer you're supposed to give yeah i'll talk how i want thanks have a nice day this is the ownership of the limbs now Now, on the fraud front, it's not just Beto. So again, we're wrapping that up with the framing and get the last word in. And Trump has mastered the switching of the narrative.

He's good at that. But secondly, I want to talk about this genuine authenticity thing, which Trump has and they don't. I already talked to you about Beto, who's a complete fraud. The guy's a standard run of the mill politician who Democrats are burning money on left and right good send more send as much money to Beto Democrats as you can because we're going to wind up winning in these other states that have siphoned off money to send to this phony but we find out this weekend the Democrat candidate in Arizona running against Martha McSally who was I, an A-10 pilot in the military. Now we find out, Joe, that Kirsten Sinema, who is another phony who seems to love attacking

the citizens of Arizona. Yeah, I didn't say that wrong. She's running in Arizona. And there were multiple soundbites out there of this Democrat candidate running for office in Arizona who can't stop attacking people from Arizona. She's like, and you know, they call it the laboratory of democracy, the states. She's like, Arizona's the meth lab of democracy. She's running for Senate in Arizona.

U.S. Senate. Yes, that's a real shit. The woman is amazing. She cannot foot in mouth, right? She cannot get her foot out of her mouth. She's on tape bashing Arizona left and right. That's not the fraud angle, though. So now, the National Association of Latino Elected Officials, N-A-L-E-O,

there's a controversy developing there now, too, where Sinema apparently has been represented as a Latino elected official somehow on their website. She's not Latino at all. Not even like a little bit. What? Now, I'll give you both sides, unlike the liberals would do to you. She's saying, hey, it's on them.

We didn't do this. Meanwhile, the people at NALEO, who had her listed as a Latino lawmaker, hint, she's not, breaking news, she's not, have said, well, you know, we go by self-identification and we check this stuff with the campaign. In other words, that we listed her as a Latino lawmaker, we checked with them at one point. Folks, these people are phonies. Their entire identity is fake, phony stuff. I'm a Latino lawmaker. You're not.

Then we have the breaking news today about Pocahontas. Oh! Pocahontas is back. She will not let this I'm an American Indian go. She will not. Elizabeth Warren, of course, we're talking about the liberal, far-left, radical senator from Massachusetts who wants to run for president against Trump, will not let this go. She has said multiple times she has claimed her Native American ancestry that her mom and dad or grandpa and grandmother had to elope because of their Native American ancestry.

And folks, she actually takes a DNA test. And the DNA test comes back, Joe, that it's possible that she is one 512th Native American. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not making this up. I am not making this up. I had to write this down so I didn't miss the greats. Where did I put it? it oh here it is according to dna tests it's pot joe possible just possible caught that yeah that her great great great grandmother oc smith may may have had some native American heritage, which makes her possibly one 512th Native American. This is a woman who claimed her mother and father and her grandparents, or one of them,

I forget which one, had a lope because of her Native American, like they were being discriminated against. Folks, these people are phonies. They are total frauds. Do you understand their entire lives are labels? Their entire lives. And if they don't fit into one of these labels that they, they deem victim groups, they do this. The liberals. That they deem victim groups, their lives have no meaning. I want you to smile a little bit today again.

Because I know the show can be a lot of bad news sometimes, but I like to sprinkle in some positive stuff. Yeah, man. To make you feel better. Smile a little bit, and I mean this. Your lives have meaning. Real, genuine, material, touchable, feelable meaning. You love deeply. You all go to church on Sunday or synagogue,

wherever you go. A lot of you are deep people of faith. You believe in higher ideals, big R rights granted by God, big R, not little r rights. You don't genuflect at the altar of state stupidity. You question authority. You challenge authority. You challenge authority.

You look past simple stories like, oh, well, you know, Donald Trump was a playboy. Yeah, well, what else did he do? Oh, you know what? He made a couple of billion dollars. He may have lost some money too, but he worked in the real world. All right, well, that matters to me. You don't go, Donald Trump skateboards in a parking lot. you don't go, Donald Trump with skateboards in a parking lot. You all are deeper than that. Your families matter. You're not perfect.

Fallen short of God's plan for you many times. I know I have. Your family matters. Your ability to defend your family matters. Not because you worship guns. Guns are a tool. Firearms are a tool like anything else. You understand that we live in a society full of people, sadly,

looking to do ill will on others. That malicious evil behavior is very real. This isn't utopia, but your kids and your family matter to you and you want every tool available to protect them. You understand your money matters in your pocket because you care about the cost of products, the quality of products, the stuff you're going to put on your kids' back or feed to your kids. This stuff matters. The safety of the car you're going to

drive in. No government person's going to be able to determine that for you. You determine that. You know with your healthcare, your decisions matter. You all are deeper than these people. These people are shallow frauds. They are invested entirely in victim culture and victimology. And when they are not part of that victim class, they have deemed to be victims. Minority voters, women, younger folks, when they deem them victims, when they are not part of that victim class and they're on the outside looking in, oh my gosh, I happen to be a white, so I better fake it and say i have indian ancestry or or i that i'm a i'm a hispanic elected official when i'm not their entire lives are meaningless

it is sad it is such a sad pathetic gross way to live to fake it your entire life to try to pretend you are part of a class of people joe you you've deemed victims, not them. My wife's a spatic. She doesn't see herself a victim anywhere. She is a powerful, powerful American citizen who came here as an immigrant, who has taken life by the cojones and run with it. We do not apologize for anything. And we certainly ain't sitting at the back

begging for people's compassion or empathy. Oh my gosh, I'm such a victim. If anybody had the right to be the victim, my wife did. And she didn't. She followed the simple American rules. Come here, learn how to speak the language we speak, follow the education system, get a college degree, apply for a job in a field that has openings. And you know what? My wife was a hugely successful web developer. My entire web operation was up until we brought Partners in because it's now so big, was grown by her. She didn't have to fake anything.

The formula for success is simple. And the Democrats don't believe in it at all. They believe purely in victim and blame culture. Throw the rules out the window. Go to school. Forget that. Get a job. It's nonsense.

This is all nonsense. That formula works. They know it works. But if it works, then victim culture goes out the window because if you listen to me, if you follow those rules, go to school, invest in your education, learn how to dress for a business interview, comb your hair, brush your darn teeth, learn how to mop a floor when you're younger and the work ethic that comes with sweeping floors and mopping when you're a kid. the work ethic that comes with sweeping floors and, and mopping. When you're a kid, learn a work ethic, show up early,

leave late at work. The chances of you being a failure in life in the, in the United States of America are almost zero, zero, none. Joe, I assure you was not born with a silver spoon. He wasn't even given a silver spoon later.

Joe in this podcast work, because Joe said, I will work with you for free, which't even given a silver spoon later joe in this podcast worked because joe said i will work with you for free which he did for a year because we know this will work i spent my last ten thousand dollars buying this recording equipment sir it works the formula works the democrats can't have you believe that they have to constantly keep you angry so they ignore the fact that this formula works for everyone everyone and they constantly say no no you're a victim and they need you to believe it why because you're a victim of what joe something and what is that something it's always conservative values that work that. Go to school. Brush your darn teeth.

Wash your face. Show up early. Leave late. It doesn't matter what color that face is. You will succeed. They cannot have you believe that. You have to be a victim of something so they can protect you against what you're a victim of. That's their only game. We will protect you against those conservatives,

but they don't want, this is why Kanye drives them crazy. Kanye's not a conservative. I'm not looking to Kanye ever for political advice, but what disturbs them so much about Kanye is his simple message. Hey, think for yourself. Drives them wild because they know when intelligent young black men and women and hispanic men and women young people in general who follow kanye actually do think for themselves and say you know what if i go to school i pay attention i buy a nice suit i show up for a job interview i'll probably get a job and make a lot of money and buy a house. They're all of a sudden, they'll be like,

well, why do I need Democrats? I thought they were protecting me against those values that actually are good things, not bad things. They can't have that. That's why Kanye freaks them out. Just, it's,

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who's been doing a terrific job up in up in congress on this papadopoulos uh angle and spy gate case and others and thanks by the way for the book um i can i just make one quick pitch sorry joe i don't mean to waste you any time folks i'm sorry to keep wearing you out my book i know it's a little annoying um at times but i really put a lot of work into it and there's some snafus, not on it. I don't want to get too much into it but because of some situations that happened, some opportunities unfortunately were missed and it wasn't,

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309 of them are five-star. And read the reviews. They're detailed. You will not be able to put the book down. So please check it out. Spygate, The Attempted Sabotage of Donald Trump, my new book, it's out, came out this week. It's ready and available on Amazon. Please check it out. You will love it. It puts this whole thing together. Okay, thanks. I appreciate the opportunity to do that. But getting back to this. So Ratcliffe had an interesting interview on Maria Bartiromo this weekend. And I'm going to quote to you some of the things he said, which is really important. They've been insisting the whole time that, you remember the whole case, according to the FBI, the latest, because the story about how the fbi

originated this case if you listen to last week's show is the controversy i told you that the fbi's paragraph one in this case makes no sense um they're insisting the latest you know the latest and greatest we have from last december is that the papadopoulos meeting with alexander downer in australia where you know papadopoulos is alleged to have said that the Russians have dirt to this Alexander Downer who passes it to the State Department, who passes it to the FBI. That's the FBI story, and that's the one they're sticking to it. So just to be clear, you have to understand, the FBI cannot start a case randomly.

There is an actual process in their dialogue, their manual on how to start a case. Steps have to be followed, Joe. And they're insisting now that it was Papadopoulos' comments in the United Kingdom to Downer their manual on how to start a case. Steps have to be followed, Joe. And they're insisting now that it was Papadopoulos' comments in the United Kingdom to Downer that initiated this case. But that doesn't make any sense, folks, because Downer and Papadopoulos both insist that the way the FBI framed the conversation about, oh, the Russians have dirt on Hillary, never happened. Now, Ratcliffe said something interesting this weekend.

He said, and this is according to a piece I have in the Daily Caller by Chuck Ross up at the show notes today. Please read the show notes. They're really good. He said, other Republican lawmakers, this is the Chuck Ross piece, have hinted that intelligence exists, which exonerates Papadopoulos, who has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts he had with a Maltese professor named Joseph Massoud. FBI about contacts he had with a Maltese professor named Joseph Massoud. Ratcliffe said the declassification of a batch of FBI and Justice Department documents, quote, would corroborate his claims about the Papadopoulos intelligence. He goes on, Chuck Ross, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes has said that the FBI failed to provide, quote, exculpatory evidence in the FISA applications. He said Americans will be, quote, shocked by the information behind the FISA redactions.

What's going on here, folks? Why does this matter? Are there tapes? Oh, now Papadopoulos has hinted that he felt he was being taped by Downer. So remember, this conversation in the UK supposedly about Russians having dirt on Hillary and Papadopoulos works for the Trump team and Downer passes it off to the State Department. Nunes, Ratcliffe, and others have been insisting forever that there is, quote, exculpatory evidence out there. There is genuine, legit exculpatory evidence indicating that Papadopoulos is innocent.

So let's be clear. Let's view this very simply. The Bureau, which I believe is lying, says they started their case because this Trump guy, Papadopoulos, said something about

the Russians having dirt. Republicans up on the Hill have seen the information, folks, are adamant that there is, quote, exculpatory evidence on Papadopoulos. Exculpatory, meaning this is not true. Meaning there's evidence indicating Papadopoulos is innocent. Two questions that should come from this.

Number one, did someone tape Papadopoul, and are there tapes out there? And in the tape of that conversation, if it happened, are there tapes indicating that the conversation did not happen the way the FBI said it happened? Now, if there are tapes and that information is out there and that information was not disclosed to the FISA court while trying to spy on an American citizen, not disclosed to the FISA court while trying to spy on an American citizen. Or there's information in there that this whole thing is a scam. Folks, the Bureau is going to be in a world of trouble. The upper level FBI management involved in this is going to be in a world of trouble. I'm going to get to some of that too in a second. This is important. But the second question, the last

FISA application, the last FISA application happens after the last, not application, the last renewal. There's one FISA application, three renewals. Happens after the FBI, this is important folks,

interviews Joseph Mifsud in February of 2017. The FBI interviews Mifsud. Why does this matter? Because remember, the Bureau's saying they started the case because Papadopoulos tells Downer about Russian dirt. But where does Papadopoulos, according to the Bureau's story, get the information from? He gets it from Mifsud. That's the Bureau's whole story,

that Mifsud's the pusher. Remember I told you this before. Mifsud pushes this into it, pushes it into Papadopoulos. That's the whole story. Mifsud tells Papadopoulos about Russian dirt. Papadopoulos tells Downer. Boom!

FBI investigation. I have said to you from the start the real scandal here is the bush who the hell was mifsud working for was mifsud instructed to find papadopoulos and tell him about rushing dirt russian dirt knowing that uS. intelligence working in conjunction with others was going to try to pull that information out later to set him up as a middleman in an exchange of information about the Russians. Folks, please tell me you understand. I've explained it a lot that most of you seem to be straight on it.

But understand the real scandal here are two conflicting narratives that can't possibly exist at the same time. It is impossible. There is one piece of space. The mass cannot exist in the same. It's not going to work. These masses of stories cannot exist at the same time. The Democrat story is Mifsud was working in conjunction with the Russians.

Therefore, when he told Papadopoulos about this Russian dirt, that Papadopoulos was part of a scheme to get this information from Russia into the Trump team. That's the Dems story. Do you understand how the story that seems increasingly likely by the day cannot exist with that story at the same time in the same space, in the same sphere. The real story, based on credible information out there about Mifsud and his own history, is that Mifsud was likely not a Russian agent. He was likely working with friendlies. Why were friendlies trying to set up Donald Trump trump mifsud can't be a russian agent

and simultaneously working with friendly intelligence assets folks or else we have an even bigger conspiracy do we not these two stories cannot coexist why is this a problem with the latest revelation here about uh but with ratcliffe this weekend joe the problem they're going to have is if he's saying there's exculpatory information that's going to like blow people's minds is it possible that when the fbi joe interviewed mifsud in february that some of this information about mifsud's ties to friendlies and not, in fact, the Russians may have come out and they renewed the FISA anyway. Oh, that one. Oh boy. Oh, is that going to sting? Oh, folks. When you read the chapter in my book

about Mifsud, you're going to be blown away. There are people who think they've heard everything in the podcast. Read the book. There are tidbits in every single chapter I promise you have not heard. Is it possible that they renewed the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump team, knowing in February that this thing was a scam the entire time that it was an operation with friendlies to dirty up the Trump team big questions folks big question now Ratcliffe and others have also indicated that Glenn Simpson as I said last week Joe is in real legal jeopardy he is in real that Glenn Simpson, as I said last week, Joe, is in real legal jeopardy. He is in real trouble. Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS, who was the company

working for Hillary that put together the dossier. Glenn Simpson's in a world of hurt right now. Glenn Simpson has testified under oath that he started talking to Bruce Ohr after the election. The reason is very simple. The story against Trump is that they wanted to overturn the results of an election by working with the Russians, or influence the election, I should say, to be more precise. So Simpson has consistently said on the road that he only met Bruce Ohr afterwards, but that's not what Bruce Ohr says. Bruce Ohr at the DOJ has notes saying that he was talking to Simpson as far back as August, which is obviously before the November election.

Simpson's in a world of trouble right now too, folks. I want to leave this portion of the show with that because I want you to, again, I get your frustrations with the glacial pace of this investigation into Trump. I fully understand. I am with you. I would like to see it proceed faster. I just don't want you to mistakenly believe that nothing's going on. That am with you. I would like to see it proceed faster. I just don't want you to mistakenly believe that nothing's going on. That's a mistake. That's not true. There are things going

on behind the scenes. There is a reason Glenn Simpson and his team are now pleading the fifth and saying, we will not go up there. We will not speak because they know they are in a world of legal trouble right now. They are going to have no legal recourse out of this perjury case if it comes up. Because what, Joe? Other people have been charged with lying to the FBI and lying under oath. So there's no way they can be able to say, oh, you're singling us out. Do you understand that? They singled out Mike Flynn and Papadopoulos despite the fact that flynn was being honest and papadopoulos had a misstated a date that he met miss sood simpson's not going to be able to say if he's charged with uh with with crimes here

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the show notes because it's subscription only, but if you have a subscription, it's a good one. It covers the two-prong attack going forward. And folks, I'm bringing this up not to rehash old Kavanaugh stories at all. That news cycle is now dead. This is a new news cycle now. And the new news cycle, although the story's about Kavanaugh, it's not about Kavanaugh. This is about you damn well got to get out there and vote, folks. And you got to take 10 people with you. Because this is what's coming if, God forbid, we lose the House of Representatives or the Senate.

This is what's coming down the pipeline. They have a two-fold insanity, completely insane track of attack against Kavanaugh. Here's number one, Joe. Number one is some of these papers, the papers and documents, the administrative filings, emails and stuff, will become public in relatively short time,

probably from the Bush administration, from Kavanaugh's time there. They are going to, probably, from the Bush administration, from Kavanaugh's time there. They are going to use his experience in the Bush administration, which is, you know, there's nothing, there's no there there. He was a staff secretary in the Bush administration, right? They're going to use that to demand recusals on just about every case that goes in front of the Supreme Court. If it touched the George W. Bush administration, they are going to demand the recusal from Kavanaugh. Folks, take it to the bank. That's what's going to happen. That's strategy number one, which would render the 5-4 Supreme Court conservative majority completely ineffective. It is a nonsense, garbage, ridiculous chaos strategy, but that's what the Democrats are.

They're the party of, as I saw Phil Kirpin put out this weekend, mobs, not jobs, right? That's what the Democrats are. They're the party of, as I saw Phil Kirpin put out this weekend, mobs, not jobs, right? That's the Democrats' new motto. Mobs, not jobs, baby. They want chaos. Number two, and folks, I covered this last because this is beyond insane. I don't even have a descriptor for it. The Democrats are actually murmuring behind the scenes. We're not talking about fringe elements only here. We're talking about elected people in the swamp who are

seriously discussing packing the courts. In other words, adding Supreme Court justices if a Democrat is elected president and they take over the Senate. Added, we've had nine since the late 1800s. They are seriously, this was a strategy, by the way, that almost decimated FDR's presidency, trying to pack the courts. But you see where they're going with this, folks, right? Right now, you need a Supreme Court justice to step down or sadly to pass like Scalia did to fill that seat.

The Democrats are seriously discussing if they take the presidency in the Senate, adding nine. Well, if we have nine, Joe, we can have 11. Let's add two more liberal justices.

Instead of five, four, it'd be six, five liberal folks. This is complete, unadulterated, utter chaos. The Democrats have turned into a party of complete tyrants up on the Hill. It's the, you know, we win, we win. We lose, we win strategy.

We lose, then we just go pack the courts. We ignore everything Donald Trump does. We attack people in the streets. We attack them when they go out to dinner. We character assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. Please understand, this stuff, it's not over. That's why I told you, the story's not about Kavanaugh. This story is about the chaos the Democrats are going to bring if they win this thing back.

This is a disaster. Please, please, please get out and vote. It is hypercritical. This is an important time. All right, one last story, which is important, because you know I like debunking liberal nonsense. And I saw it in Bloomberg this morning. Not the greatest website in the world. They have obviously left leaning bent. But they do some decent stuff on economics. And there's a fascinating piece up about fair share

economics. This is one of these things that really ticks me off. You have people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, who will constantly go out there and lecture people about fair share. You know, everybody rich got to pay their fair share. Folks, nothing ticks me off more than that. Because if you saw my tax bill, you'd be like, wow, that sounds like a fair share to me. a business associate of mine this weekend you know i want to buy a new house eventually and and you know my studio's not big enough but you know we're limited because we're limited because we owe the government uh you know so much money in january every year yeah forget it yeah i know i know it's ridiculous i'll go wine on all day so i'm not even gonna go there anymore it's just so annoying but fair you have to understand these fair share numbers. Because the wealthy in this country are not paying a fair share. What?

What? No, they're paying an unfair share. Yep. They're paying too much. You want to take a narrative, that narrative frame and smash it? Smash this narrative. You know what, Libs? You're right.

The rich aren't paying their fair share. It is grossly unfair how much money they pay. Know these numbers. Memorize these numbers. Write them down as I'm talking. Keep them in your pocket. Type them in an email to yourself. This is the unfair share. These numbers are stunning. The top 1% of earners in this country, earners, earners, I know that pisses liberals off, pays an astonishing 37.3% of the federal income tax load. One out of every hundred people pays more than 37 cents of every dollar of income taxes in this country one out of every hundred people the bottom 90 for those liberals having a tough time with math joe that is 90 out of 100 people the bottom 90 only pay 30.5%. So let's be clear about what we're saying here.

Liberals are paying, the rich folks out there, you're paying way too much. You want to take a narrative and smash it, turn it right in its head and fight back the other way. One out of 100 people are paying seven percentage points more of the income tax than the bottom 90 out of 100. You're right. It's not a fair share.

It's a grossly unfair share. Oh, it gets better. The top 50%, 50 out of 100, wouldn't be a top, the top half, pays 97% of the income tax load. That's right, Chewy. And Chewy's upset. Oh, yeah. When Chewy's upset, Joe only whips Chewy out once in a while. You know things are ugly.

Meaning the bottom. Joe, what's 97 minus 100? This is not hard. Three, Dan. Three. Yes, three. Thank you. I'm sorry I had to put you on the spot there,

but liberals have a tough time with math. That means the bottom 50% of earners pay 3%. 97 top 50 bottom. Now, I'm bringing this up for a reason. Bottom 53%. If the bottom 50%

pay only 3% of the income tax, the guy in the Bloomberg article, which is shockingly fair, brings up an interesting point. He says, well, what percentage of taxpayers pay about 3% of the tax load too? In other words, think about the argument. It's a very clever argument. So we get it now, right? The bottom 50% of earners pay only 3% of the income tax load. They only pay 3 cents out of every dollar. He said, if we go to the top half,

how high do we have to get given that the wealthy pay the majority of taxes? What percentage of taxpayers at the top half, how wealthy do they have to match the 3% of the entire bottom 50% of earners? I promise it'll make sense in a second, but I had to set it up a little bit complicated. 0.001%. In other words, folks, very simply, the 1,400, not 14,000. Joe, you may need the depends after this,

like the liberals. Okay. The 1,400 wealthiest taxpayers in the United States pay the same percentage of the income tax load as the bottom 50% of the country. 1,400 people in the country pay the entire percentage of the income tax load as the bottom 50% in the United States, 0.001%. You're right. That is not a fair share. That is a grossly unfair share. Folks, please understand what I'm telling you. The 1,400 wealthiest

Americans pay the same percentage of the income tax load as 50% of the country. You want to take an argument and just smash it completely? That money could be invested

in businesses. That money could be providing jobs. Instead, what is it? It's given to the government to flush down the toilet bowl. And I am tired, tired, finished, done, making the argument that the government spent... Here's the thing. Taxes suck.

It's a scam. It's theft. Outside of the military and the constitutional role of government laid out in our constitution, taxes suck. It's a total in our constitution. Taxes suck. It's a total waste of money. Stop apologizing. I can't believe you're saying it's true.

Government flushes your money down the toilet bowl. Period. Full stop. Thank you. Have a nice day. All right, folks, I appreciate you tuning in. Thanks again for picking up my book, Spygate. I appreciate you all clicking on the new website. Sorry about we had a couple of hiccups last week. Traffic was

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