The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 829 There’s Something Suspicious Going On

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

Summary:  In this episode I address the awful week the Democrats and the anti-Trump crowd are having. I also discuss the suspicious guilty plea of a key player in the Russian collusion hoax. Finally,... I address the growing budget deficit and the liberal misinformation operation designed to blame it on tax policy.    News Picks: When the libs lose state power, they have nothing left.    Two times the Clinton campaign faked Russian collusion.    The federal government’s budget deficit is growing again.   The federal government collected record income tax revenue in 2018.   This Democrat senator was caught on tape deceiving voters.    President Trump completely dismantled the "60 Minutes" team in his interview.     James Wolfe’s guilty plea is very suspicious. What is going on in this case?    Chuck Grassley is using the “new rules” and pushing ahead on the confirmation of judges.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today happy tuesday everybody yesterday was a big day it was in for levin did hannity tonight so i had a caller when i was filling in guest hosting for mark levin last night. Kathy. And it was a tremendous call. I don't take calls on the show, and I've never done this before, but by popular demand, I'm going to play portions of the Kathy interview later. Do not miss this.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I always, when I fill in for Mark Levin, I always leave a line open for liberals to call in because I like a little spicy debate sometimes. But this call, I have to tell you, in my history, Joe, I played it for you, right? I guess it's good, right? It is definitely worth it. In all of the time I've been guest hosting on radio,
Starting point is 00:00:52 this is bar none the greatest liberal caller I've ever had. It was absolutely terrific. All right, so listen to that. I got a lot more for you. Today's show brought to you by our buddies at My Patriot Supply. Hey, here's the reality. Emergencies usually strike without warning.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 hey, give us a call if you're a liberal. So a lady called in. I just want to play portions of this because it shows you folks that the lady was making the point. I was arguing about taxes based on, if you listen to the podcast yesterday, that article I covered at Bloomberg that showed that the top 1,400 taxpayers in the country, in other words, the wealthiest 1,400 taxpayers, 1,400, not 14,000, pay the same amount percentage
Starting point is 00:02:44 wise of the income tax load as the bottom 50% of taxpayers. Think about what I told you yesterday. Just 1,400 people who earn good amounts of money pay the same percentage of the tax load as the bottom 50% of income taxpayers. That's a staggering number. So Kathy found that objectionable. But going to show you how liberals, liberals are completely dominated by emotion. They have no grips on facts or data at all. Kathy called in and this was the result of it. Kathy from New York City, New York.
Starting point is 00:03:15 How are you tonight? You're on with Dan Bongino. Great. I want to say, sir, that the rich in this country should pay 100 of the taxes because the rich have 100 of the representation and the american colonists fought the revolutionary war to end taxation without representation which is what we have right now in 2018. Okay. Compensation with no representation. You do. So, Kathy, are you wealthy?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Only the rich have any representation in this government. Okay. Kathy, are you rich? Hell no. You're not. So you don't have a congressional representative? Kathy, let me ask you a question. What congressional district do you reside in?
Starting point is 00:04:07 My congressional representative. What's the district? Who she cares about. What's the number? What district do you reside in? I do believe it's Charles. Is this the greatest call ever to talk radio sometimes i think maybe we should take calls on the podcast once we go uh we go to video we'll do live eventually i think we should take calls
Starting point is 00:04:33 from liberals just to let them expose themselves so she's i'll get to don't worry i'll play some more of that but so she calls in and she objects to the fact that that that uh that supposedly only the rich have congressional representatives. Yet apparently she's not aware she has a congressional representative. That's why I asked her if she was rich. She said, no, she's not. So then I said to her, well, who's your congressional representative? She has no idea.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Meaning she may actually, in her head, believe that people who don't have money have uh don't have a congressional representative of course she doesn't believe it she's just making this up on the call but goes to show you how they're so embedded in emotion it never even occurred to her to know her own congressional representative before she called in so keep going joe okay kathy you don't even let me get this straight you want the rich to pay 100% of the taxes. You're making the claim that you have no representation. You simultaneously do not even know the number of the congressional district you live in. And you're expecting us to take you seriously.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Is that where we are with this? I know my district. I'll give you a second, Kathy. Well, I rarely do this on the air because I'm up against a break here, but I'll give you a second to Google it. Tell us who your representative is and what the district is. Go ahead. Do your thing. Maybe we'll play the Jeopardy sound. Okay, sir.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You don't know, do you? You have no idea. Are you kidding me? You think I don't know? Who is it? Who doesn't represent me in Washington? She has no idea. She has no idea. Folks, these are liberals. She has no idea. She has no idea. Folks, these are liberals. They have no idea.
Starting point is 00:06:09 She calls it to complain about her congressional representative not representing her because she's not rich. And she has absolutely no idea who her congressional representative is. Ladies and gentlemen, let me give you a little clue. All you have to do is Google find my representative in Congress. Literally, not figuratively. Just put that in there. It'll ask you for your address.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It would have taken her 30 seconds. She didn't even know how to Google it. So you don't know the number of the district. You don't know the name of your rep. And you don't even know how to Google it. And you're calling claiming you have no representation. But you don't even know who to contact. You don't even, because you've never looked it up yet.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You want the rich to pay more taxes because you don't even know who your congressional representative is. Hold on one more. Who is it? Exactly. Who doesn't represent me in Washington? Kathy, who is your representative? Simple question. What's the congressional district number you live in?
Starting point is 00:07:05 You're pathetic. I love Rich. Rich, you are the greatest producer ever. Kathy, we got the Jeopardy sounder in the background. Have you figured out yet who your congressional representative is? Go. Come on. Liberals are hoping.
Starting point is 00:07:20 They're praying you come through in the clutch. You're making a strong argument here that the rich should pay 100% of the taxes. We're asking a basic question. You think I don't know, sir? No, I'm just asking, who is it? Just make up a name. For the liberals out there,
Starting point is 00:07:38 Kathy's congressman is Joey Bagadonis. Representative Bagadonis. Is that it? Is it Bagadonis? That is the truth. The rich is the only people they represent. Oh, that was Desi. Folks, you like how I slipped that bag of donuts in there, Joe? Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh, folks, I'm sorry. I usually don't begin with frivolous stuff, but there's a bigger point here. Like I said, I don't just like to say, the bigger point in this whole thing is I've been dealing with liberals for a very long time now. Basically, most of my adult life, living in liberal states, running for office against liberals, living in liberal states and running for office, dealing with liberal media outlets, liberal media attacking me all the time. It's fine, but you learn quickly that they are so devoid of facts and reason i was just so glad she put her argument was that the rich should pay more in taxes because she's not represented by her representative we asked a simple question who is
Starting point is 00:08:38 your representative she has no idea doesn't even know the name of the the number of the district or the name of the representative this of the district or the name of the representative this is the liberal ethos this is it this is how they work so again sorry to replay if you you may have heard it live on levin last night but i i felt like it was the greatest caller ever and being that we don't play uh calls here on the show i just had to throw that in there so all right getting back to the news uh who had a worse day yesterday you're looking at me a little i was wondering if you wanted to finish it up, because there was a little bit more there.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, all right, play the end of it. What the heck, we might as well finish it. Are you for real? Seriously, are you a conservative quietly calling conservative shows to act like a liberal who has lost it to make people go out and vote for conservatives?
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm serious, is this a crank call? When billionaires are paying nothing in taxes, you think we should be paying anything? Rich, this is the greatest phone call ever. This is the, can you please send me the tape of this? This may be, I have to put this, this is the greatest phone call
Starting point is 00:09:39 in the district. Billionaires paying nothing. Okay, Kathy, because I got 20 seconds. One more shot. Come through for the libs all across the country. Who's your congressional representative in what district? Come on. Here you go. Let's hear it. Revolutionary War 2.0.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, my God. It's a war. It's not even funny. Now she wants another American revolution. And they say we're the crazy ones. Oh, yeah. They're hatred. They're hatred. You know what? I'm actually glad you played that. I forgot about that. now she wants another american revolution and they say we're the crazy ones oh yeah hatred you know what i'm i'm actually glad you played that i forgot about that the revolutionary war thing where she was calling for war at the end real dude oh incredible and that aired on joe
Starting point is 00:10:15 joe's station too joe runs wcb uh he's one of the producers over there for that station they run the levin program oh yesterday was just crazy so all right getting back to some others. Who had a worse day yesterday? I got a lot to get to today, including the James Wolfe, the Senate staffer who pled guilty in a very, very suspicious plea deal. But we'll get to that in a second. But who had a worse day yesterday? The Democrats? Avianti, otherwise known as Avenatti, a creepy porn lawyer,
Starting point is 00:10:40 or Elizabeth Warren? What a disaster. I just want to hit this briefly because the Democrats, a guy called in to Levin last night as well, and he wasn't a liberal. He was kind of a moderate Republican, but he said, you know, I disagree. I think Trump screwed up on this attacking Warren. You know, we're off message here. And I made the point to him, no, no, no, you're absolutely wrong. And I know you're absolutely wrong because the Democrats are now panicking. Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, two liberals at MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Jim Messina, who is Obama's, I believe, deputy campaign manager, but is definitely an Obama guy. Jim Messina, I remember from the White House, is knee deep in Obama ideology, was an Obama guy. They are all complaining about the Democrats right now and what the Democrats are doing. Matter of fact, Messina, Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough had basically the same message. And the message was this. What the hell are you guys doing? Twenty two days out from an election. What are you doing? That's why I asked the question, who had a worse day, Avenatti, the Democrats, or Elizabeth Warren, right? Here's why.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Here's what's going on. Folks, for all of my dealings with the Democrats, I really cannot stand and I fight every day of my life against their ideology. It's pernicious. It's malicious. It doesn't work. It'll lead to economic destruction and basically government confiscation of portions of the economy, your gun rights, everything else. We get that.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't respect their ability to stay on message. I do. I do because you have to know and understand your ideological opponents. You must. I've said this to you a lot, Joe, on the air and off the air. I've always respected dealing with them, their ability to ruthlessly and relentlessly stay on message, on Obamacare, on taxes. Their message is consistent all the time. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's wrong, but it's consistent. Tax cuts. Are you going to benefit the rich? You know, government. You're going to throw government health care. You're going to throw grandma off the cliff. We need to protect people. You know, public schools.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You're starving public schools of money. They are relentlessly and ruthlessly on message. And that's the way they continue to get elected, by parroting lies. None of that is true. The tax cuts, whether they benefit the rich is irrelevant. The question is, does it benefit the economy? On healthcare, you're not throwing grandma off the cliff. The reason grandma can't afford healthcare is because of government. Not in spite of it, right? Public education. We've increased public school education 400% to spending inflation-adjusted dollars, and public school education results have stayed stagnant.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So facts don't matter. Those are just pure facts. They don't matter to the Democrats. The Democrats run on gaslighting and lies. But the lies are believable because the Democrats stay ruthlessly and relentlessly on message all the time, and the media parrots it all the time. Yep. Their message for this election was going to be one of these, we're going to try to
Starting point is 00:13:26 drain the swamp. They were going to try to steal the Trump thing. There's so much corruption in the Trump. It's all garbage, of course, but we're going to go in there. We're going to clean it up. This was supposed to be their thing. We're back. We're going to go to, we're going to fight this Trump team.
Starting point is 00:13:39 We're going to clean out this mess in DC. And what are they talking about 22 days before an election? They're talking about Hillary Clinton, who gave an interview and unbelievably tried to claim that the Monica Lewinsky affair, that her husband didn't do much wrong because Monica Lewinsky was an adult, as if there wasn't an asymmetric power imbalance there between the president of the United States and a White House intern. So Hillary, now they're talking about Hillary, who has single-handedly thrown a monkey wrench in the me too movement by claiming that power imbalances don't matter in in cases where there's sexual
Starting point is 00:14:11 impropriety alleged that joe that's the me too movement's entire case is that there's a degree of impropriety in this is based on power imbalances as well in addition to the sexual impropriety so hillary clinton is now throwing a monkey wrench on the whole thing by saying oh you know what when a powerful man or a powerful woman sexually uh engages in behavior with someone uh a subordinate in the workplace that none of it matters i mean that's hillary clint that's what she said oh she was an adult she can make her own decisions now the democrats are talking about that and they're talking about Elizabeth Warren's one 1,024th Native American alleged heritage.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I mean, who, I know, I know. Isn't it funny? Who in the PR shop for Elizabeth Warren told her this was a good idea? They should be immediately arrested for political malpractice. I'm kidding, of course. But you get, right?
Starting point is 00:15:04 That's Joe's actual life life that's not butley and i can't this is ridiculous this is what you're talking about 22 days outside of an election that hillary clinton thinks her husband who was president united states did nothing wrong engaging in inappropriate behavior in the oval office with an intern and elizabeth warren's alleged native american ancestry that doesn't exist? I mean, at least in any noticeable way. This is absurd. The Democrat, this is why I made the point to the caller last night. The Democrats are grossly off message, folks.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I've always admired their Borg-like from the Star Trek hive mind ability to stay on a message no matter what. And they cannot do it. And you can thank Donald J. Trump, not to keep harping on this, but it is his ability to never, ever stop punching, ever, to just relentlessly and ruthlessly keep punching back. That has the Democrats, 22 days before an election, scrambling now to recover. Like I said, when Jim Messina, the Obama guy, and Mika and Joe, two liberals on MSNBC, all agree that the Democrats have massively screwed up. Messina's tweet read something like, what are you guys doing
Starting point is 00:16:11 22 days before an election? Get back on message. Matter of fact, Scarborough and Mika said, put the knife down. That's a quote. Don't attack us. We're just telling you, you guys are really screwing up right now. Hey, Jimmy, I got your next tweet for you babe hey libs our mama can't dance and our daddy don't rock and roll no not anymore and missina missina you got to read the tweet i mean it's it's biting joe very biting yeah now we so we have the dems we have warren but did avianti have a worst day yesterday too He lost his lawsuit against Trump with Stormy Daniels, Avenatti. Not only did he lose his lawsuit, this is where it gets bad, Joe. I think it's even worse. Avenatti's team now has to pay Trump's legal fees.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So think about this. As I saw a tweet in the Blaze this morning, which is fascinating. If you donated to a GoFundMe for Stormy Daniels or whatever, their legal fees, if you donate that, you're actually paying Donald Trump's lawyers right now. Oh, man. Nice job. Avenatti, this guy, first he brings forth a client with an absolutely outrageous story
Starting point is 00:17:19 against Kavanaugh that falls apart in the face of even the mildest of scrutiny. Then his lawsuit completely falls apart. And now all these people are raising money to defend Stormy Daniels are actually paying Donald Trump's lawyers. Who could possibly be having a worse week than that? It's one final note. Elizabeth Warren, seriously, let it go. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Listen, I get it. I know you're not going to take campaign advice from me, but seriously, let it go at this point. No, you're not going to take campaign advice from me, but seriously, let it go at this point. You look absolutely ridiculous out there with your ridiculous, absurd claims of Cherokee ancestry. It looks so, even the Cherokee Nation, Joe, the Cherokee Nation themselves has completely rebuked this woman saying, this is, you're destroying the cause here. Please stop.
Starting point is 00:18:02 All right. Let's see. You know, let me get to the Wolfe plea yesterday because the James Wolfe plea is fascinating. Now, for those of you who missed this story, and I want to hat tip the guy who emails me sometimes, and you know who you are. He's really good. Some really good directional pointers in this stuff. But I did a little homework on this last night, and I came up with a couple things.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So let me give you just some background in case you missed the story. So James Wolfe is a staff member, a longtime staff member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Just so you understand what's going on here in context. The Senate, United States Senate Intel Committee is the one doing an investigation into the alleged Russian collusion Spygate debacle, right? Mm-hmm. Therefore, there's an information exchange between the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the Intel Committee that's looking into this thing. That exchange includes numerous classified documents, FISA applications, and the sort. Now, the recipient of a lot of those classified documents for the Senate, they don't get delivered directly to the Senate's office, the Senator's office on the committee. They'll be delivered to a guy like Wolf. Wolf was a staffer over there.
Starting point is 00:19:07 So just to be clear, Wolf is taking this classified information from the DOJ and the FBI while they're conducting the Russian collusion investigation. Now, in the charging document and the indictment into Wolf, it's fascinating his plea deal. His plea deal, he does not plea, Joe, to leaking classified information. I want to be clear on this. Because the information that Wolf Gatz, the FISA application and others, leaked out to the media. There's multiple reports about it. His girlfriend, Allie Watkins, had written some stories about it. The information he received had leaked out. But he, folks, let's be clear on this. He did not plea Wolf to leaking information. He pled to one count of lying to the FBI about these leaks.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But lying about his contacts with reporters, I should say, to be precise. He pled guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with reporters, but he didn't plea to leaking. Now, there's two takeaways from this plea here. One, there's a quote by his lawyer because remember, the lawyer swore they were going to fight this. The lawyer said at one point, Joe, that we may ask for subpoenas of sitting senators here. Now, remember this. This is key, folks. The charges were that he lied about his contacts with reporters about that leaked information. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Why would you his attorney when they back them when they said they were going to fight this? They didn't. They pled yesterday on Monday. Right. Why would you threaten to subpoena sitting senators to defend you against charges that you lied. Now, for those regular listeners, you may know the answers, but it's critical now. Because all of a sudden, this all went away. Maybe, may it just maybe, the senators on the Intel Committee told him to leak this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Therefore, he's calling these senators in his defense when he was going to fight these charges to say, to get them on under oath and on the record to say yes or no that they told them to leak it. Folks, you see where I'm going with this? Let me give you a hypothetical here. Say a senator on the Intel Committee who really can't stand Trump. They demand the FISA application. They think there's damaging information in there. They want that damaging information to get to the media. They think there's damaging information in there.
Starting point is 00:21:23 They want that damaging information to get to the media. The DOJ and the FBI, the FISA court delivered classified documents to Wolf. The senators, what if they told him, leak this stuff to the media, and that's his defense? Hey, I didn't lie about my contacts with reporters. I contacted reporters because they told me to give it out. All of a sudden, that goes away now because he pled. So there's not going to be a trial. And if there's no trial, Joe, there's not going to be senators put on the stand. Are you tracking where I'm going with this, Joe? It's a really simple point I'm making. Did the United States senators, when an anti-Trump bias, order a staffer on their
Starting point is 00:21:59 committee to leak information to the media, period? That's the question. And the fact that Wolf's lawyers were going to ask senators to testify says to me there's something highly suspicious going on there now here's a quote from his lawyer that was given yesterday which should definitely make the uh give you a little bit of you know hair standing on end thing. He says, we will have much more to say about the facts, and he talks about Wolf's history with him, at the sentencing hearing. What more will you have to say at the
Starting point is 00:22:32 sentencing hearing? About the facts. In other words, Wolf is, there's something going, you may say, well, it's kind of a light statement. What does he mean by the facts? I don't know. If the facts are, Joe, if the facts are the case that you lied about your contacts with reporters, they should be clear.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You told the FBI you didn't contact this reporter and you did. What other, I don't understand what other facts at the sentencing hearing you need to get out. What is it? You pled guilty to lying about your contacts with reporters, not to the leaks. Folks, here's what I think is going on here. If you want my humble opinion based on again and backed's what I think is going on here, if you want my humble opinion, based on, again, and backed by what I think is a good amount of homework into this specific case.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I believe Wolf has potentially devastating information about this cabal inside the Senate Intel Committee to leak information to the media to damage Trump by getting the classified documents from the FBI and the DOJ. I believe Wolf was the subject of basically an investigation into leaks. Now, we know that investigation exists because Jeff Sessions and Dan Coats, the DNI, already told us this investigation into leaks exists. They told us this over a year ago. They announced it in a press conference. It's not hard if it's not a conspiracy theory. The Department of Justice sessions and the DNI, the Director of National Security, announced over a year ago, Joe, they were conducting an investigation into leaks. So is it possible that Wolf's the fall guy in all this? That they're really conducting an
Starting point is 00:23:59 investigation into the Senate Intel Committee and the staff over there? And Wolf was the guy that the Senate Intel Committee threw under the bus? Hey, you go leak this. And then when Wolf said, well, I'm going to subpoena, I'm going to request you guys be subpoenaed at trial to tell the court, get on the record that you told me to leak it. All of a sudden the case goes away, Joe. Is the DOJ dodging a major bullet here? If they are, excuse me, we should be really PO'd. OJ dodging a major bullet here. If they are, we should be really PO'd. No one should be getting a pass on this.
Starting point is 00:24:33 This entire conspiracy to take down the Trump team needs to be exposed and people need to be held accountable. I don't understand what other facts need to be disclosed at this sentencing hearing. It's a simple charge. But he made a point to say that i think i think wolf is pissed i think wolf was told to leak all this stuff i think he knows he was told to leak all this stuff i think he feels like given that he was instructed by people on the senate or the senate staff through conduits to leak this stuff that he's the one that's going to go to jail. I think he is pissed. I think he took this plea to one charge in an effort by the DOJ to assist them in making this thing go away. Now, there's another alternate scenario. The other alternate
Starting point is 00:25:15 scenario, to give you both sides, is a potential here that Wolf is cooperating. Ladies and gentlemen, given the history of the DOJ lately, sadly, I don't think this is likely. I think this was an effort to make this all go away. I really do. I'm saddened to say that, but I don't think Wolf is cooperating anymore. I think if he was cooperating, we would not have had that statement issued. I think Wolf is pissed. I think he's annoyed. Joe, do you see where I'm going with this? There's only two scenarios right now. Again, number one, we know there was a leak investigation. We know Wolf was locked up for lying about these, was arrested for lying to federal agents about his contacts with reporters, about the leaks, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:55 We know Wolf took a plea yesterday to just one charge. Minority's probably not going to do much jail time at all, right? We know his lawyer comes out saying, hey, we got more to say about this, about the, quote, facts at the end, and James' service to the government. In other words, he's not happy. He didn't come out and say, hey, we're really sorry about this. We're moving on. It's not what he said. That indicates to me, based on comments in order to be a former federal investigator, that Wolf is pissed. The DOJ is probably looking to sweep this thing under the rug. Went to Wolf and said,
Starting point is 00:26:27 we're not going to charge you with the leak. We're only going to charge you with one count, but you need to take this plea deal. Wolf's probably thinking, screw that. I didn't do this leak on my own. I was told by the Senate to leak this information about Trump. I'm not taking this deal.
Starting point is 00:26:40 The lawyer probably comes back to him and goes, brother, listen to me right now. Either way, you're going down for this. We can call up these senators. We can get them on the stand. We can hurt them too. But you're going to spend a year in jail on potentially six, seven, whatever, eight counts
Starting point is 00:26:53 of lying to the FBI. And then they may charge you with the leak as well. You better take this deal now. Wolf reluctantly probably says, all right, screw it. I'll take this deal. But you better come out and clear my name. So what does the lawyer do? They take the plea deal and he immediately issues a statement, not apologizing, not anything saying, quote, we will have much more to say about the facts and
Starting point is 00:27:16 James's record of public service at the sentencing hearing. Oh, that's going to be good, isn't it? That's going to be good. You see where you sit. There's only two scenarios, right? He's either cooperating with the government and is happy with the deal and is ready to throw everybody else under the bus, or he's not cooperating with the government. He took the deal. He's looking to end this thing, and the government wanted to make this thing go away. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I don't, I'm not sure. I really sincerely doubt this guy's cooperating at this point it seems to me that he is furious that he wasn't able to get these charges dismissed and just give up the information on the senators that then the whole threat to have them subpoenaed makes sense now one thing here about this as a guy emailed me this morning it was interesting he said remember the 82 pages one of the big allegations in the wolf indictment is the fisa application he got a hold of in other words the application that has all the fake dirt on donald trump that was presented to the fisa court to spy on them the an application yet the initial application uh you have 82 pages of documents. Now, the publicly disclosed FISA application
Starting point is 00:28:27 was redacted. There were numerous pages fully redacted, right? So Joe, if I have an 82-page document, I want you to see the document and it's classified. And there are, say, 20, 30 pages of redactions. And I text photos of it to you. I'm not going to send you pictures of fully blacked out pages. Why? It would make no sense. Why would I send Joe a picture of a fully,
Starting point is 00:28:48 it doesn't make any sense. None. If it's 82 pages and 20 of them are redacted, I would send you 62 texts. Right. Common sense. One of the interesting things
Starting point is 00:28:57 about this case that's fascinating, and I have a ton of articles in the show notes today about this at Bongino.com, so please check them out, is on the day Wolf takes hold of the FISA application and the 82 pages,
Starting point is 00:29:11 he texts his girlfriend at the time, Allie Watkins, 82 separate texts. Now again, if he's texting her, why would he send her redacted pages? It's fairly obvious to me at this point that James Wolfe likely sent Ali Watkins an unredacted copy of the FISA, meaning the media folks has had a copy. People in the media, because remember, there's allegations in the indictment of him contacting multiple reporters, Joe, that it is strongly, strongly likely that the media has had an unredacted copy
Starting point is 00:29:47 of the FISA for months now, meaning they've known this whole scam. Now, an interesting question brought up to me this morning, which I've thought about, and I'm not, I have a theory on this. What if, now we know this was a setup now, we know this was a government operation to out the leakers, so they were watching Wolf the whole time. if, now we know this was a setup now, we know this was a government operation to out the leakers,
Starting point is 00:30:07 so they were watching Wolf the whole time. What if the 82 pages, what if some of the information in there was not accurate? What if it was intentionally false? In other words, was it a fake FISA document? It's a good question. Yeah. Which would, why is that interesting interesting it would be interesting because it
Starting point is 00:30:26 would explain a boatload of media misreporting on this trump thing the whole time think about it so folks are you tracking me it's clear at this point that he texts her 82 times that we know it's likely at this point that those 82 texts were the 82 pages of the pfizer document that were not redacted because you're not going to text a blacked out page. If that unredacted document the media's had the whole time is not real, but it's a fake FISA and a sting operation to out them, the media may have been reporting on this Trump Russian collusion thing the whole time using bad information that the government themselves provided. think about how stupid the media would look right now can you imagine their entire basis for reporting on the russian collusion thing
Starting point is 00:31:11 has been this fisa application based on bad dirt on the trump team joe and the fisa application is a sting document and it's not even real oh that is new levels that's cosmic levels of stupid that is cosmic levels. That's cosmic levels of stupid. That is cosmic levels of stupid. It explains all the misreporting on Deutsche Bank, the misreporting on WikiLeaks and Don Jr., the misreporting on Flynn. If they have been leaking out fake information all over the place
Starting point is 00:31:38 and the media has been eating it up, do you realize you've been played like a sucker the whole time? Oh, this would be just poetic justice, wouldn't it? Poetic justice. All right. I just, the Wolf thing, that story fascinates me. That 82 text thing is just incredible because there's no question right now
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Starting point is 00:34:36 Folks, challenge your liberal friends on this repeatedly because they can't seem to make up their minds. Do they want majority rules or not? Do they want majoritarian influence or not? It seems like when the left wins on an ideological issue, abortion, gay marriage, whatever it is, they are anti-majoritarian. In other words, they don't want the issue on about. Do you see where I'm going with this? This is a great piece by the Wall Street Journal that exposes a glaring hypocrisy in the far left ideological movement, okay? And I want you to pay close attention to this because this is critical.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The left changes its position in a heartbeat. When they want to win on something and an ideological issue, they don't want the majority to decide on it. When it came to gay marriage, wherever you stand on this, abortion, they don't want this stuff on the ballot. They want to avoid it on the ballot at all costs because in many states, not everywhere, but in many states, they've lost. They don't want it. They want this pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage agenda for them. They want it imparted upon states where they don't think it'll succeed on a ballot.
Starting point is 00:35:40 They want it. That's why the Obergefell case, Roe v. Wade. That's why they wanted to handle this stuff in the courts. So on one hand, just to be clear, the same, we don't want the voters to decide it. We don't want but we don't want majoritarian rule. We want the courts to decide it. You tracking? Yeah, this is this is a big hypocrisy with the left. And it's a brilliant piece that points this out.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So when they think they can win in the issue in the courts, they will push anti-majoritarianism. No voters, push it through the courts, we win, you lose. This has been their rules. That's why I say it's the new rules for us, because it's been their rules for years. But fascinatingly, Joe, in the Trump era, where they keep dropping L's, losses left and right, on the tax reform package, on their battle for the courts, their battle on immigration policy, they keep losing left and right. They've gone to the courts again to try to stop it.
Starting point is 00:36:41 But now, ironically, as they go to courts to try to stop it on anti-majoritarianism, because people, what, voted for Trump, they voted for the wall, they voted for the portions of the travel restrictions, right? They voted for this. As they simultaneously go to the courts to fight public opinion and majority rule, ironically, they're making the exact opposite case when it comes to the political structure of the country. Don't lose me on this because this was a brilliant analysis everybody needs to own for your liberal friends. Tell them to make the choice. Majority rules or not, what do you want? Because you want the majority when it comes to the electoral college, when it comes to the Senate, and when it comes to court packing. But you don't want the
Starting point is 00:37:28 majority when it comes to issues you don't like. Travel restrictions, immigration policy, gay marriage, abortion. You want that decided in the courts. So he goes through these three items. Number one, the electoral college. So again, the left is anti-majority rules, but then now all of a sudden they want majority rules because they don't like the electoral college. Their case now is that the electoral college, the way we elect presidents, the popular vote, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not going to say it doesn't matter. It does matter because whoever wins the popular vote within the states, I know a lot of you know this, so forgive me for repeating it, but it's important.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Some of you may have heard this for the first time. The presidential national election is not a national election. It is a series of state elections where the winner of that state's popular vote gets that state's electors for president. The electoral college, whoever gets 270 of those Electoral College votes, in fact, wins the presidency. So it's really a series of 50 separate state votes. It's really not a national vote per se. It's a national office, but it's 50 separate state votes. The Democrats are now arguing, no, no, no, no, no. Popular votes should matter here.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They're doing this popular vote state compact where if they can get states with 270 plus electoral votes to all agree to pledge that the winner of the national popular vote will win this is their new thing now you understand what that would do effectively right if liberal states if they can find liberal or swing states with a combined 270 presidential electoral votes to pledge that it's not going to matter what happens in their state now. That their electors, and they may be able to do this, that their electors are going to dedicate their presidential electoral votes towards the winner of the national popular vote, not their state popular vote. What you would have is a destruction of electoral college. It would be irrelevant. Tell me you follow that
Starting point is 00:39:30 because that's important. So now, they first, they're anti-majority. Now they're all about the majority again. Now they, when it comes,
Starting point is 00:39:37 why? Because they lost the presidency. Now, I can guarantee you, guarantee you, that if the situation were reversed and the Democrats won the Electoral College for the presidency, whoever it is, you know, whoever runs in 2020, Hillary Clinton or otherwise, and they lost the popular vote like what happened to Trump, he lost the popular vote, won the Electoral College, overwhelmingly, by the way. The Democrats would make the exact opposite argument. My point in this is the same. The Democrats are complete, total hypocrites. And the way you expose hypocrisy is by asking basic questions.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Because remember, your political opponents can avoid an assertion. They cannot avoid a question. They can't, or else it looks like they're not answering it. If you just make a random assertion, they can avoid it. It's one of the best pieces of political advice I ever got. Whenever you're debating someone, make sure everything ends with a question mark because people can't avoid a question. Ask your liberal friends. What is it? Do you want majority rule or not? Because when we tried to put the, how would you support a national vote on abortion, a national vote on gay marriage? How come you don't support the travel restrictions?
Starting point is 00:40:45 How come you don't support immigration reforms? People voted for that. People voted. Donald Trump's the president. That's his agenda. They hate it. They want everything done through the courts. But then when it comes to losing the electoral college, well, you know what? We lost the electoral college. We got to get rid of it. Majority rules again. The Senate, their new beef on the Senate, I covered this yesterday. their new beef on the senate i covered this yesterday their new beef on the senate is that which by the way the connecticut compact with the whole purpose of that was to give states adequate represented or representation up on the up in the hill within the congress we already have a branch of government a branch of a branch
Starting point is 00:41:23 of government dedicated to the population representations called the house of representatives i don't know how liberals keep losing this the whole idea was that the states would have adequate representation regardless of population on the other side of the legislature in the senate every state obviously gets two senators the democrats hate that now their point now is that the Supreme Court, the Senate's voted on the Supreme Court, and that the number of senators representing the states that voted to put Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court are far outweighed by the population of the states that voted against it. Are you tracking what I'm putting down here, folks?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So first, they don't like the fact that the popular vote does not decide the president, because they want majority rule. Second, they don't like the fact that the senators from less densely populated states voted to put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. They're saying, look, senators from New York and California basically should not only decide the president, but should decide who goes in the Supreme Court too. So now they're attacking the Senate too.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Also, they're attacking the courts and they're suggesting that the courts should be packed now. Erroneous! There you go, Vince. You know it. Vince Vaughn chiming in there. Now they want to pack the courts, too, because they don't like the fact, again, that the United States, given its system of representative democracy and a constitutional republic, we are not a direct democracy, folks. I'm not going to give the sheep wool for dinner,
Starting point is 00:42:49 it's been said a million times, but you get the point. We are not a direct democracy. The fact that the Democrats are losing and have lost, they are attacking things that represent a representative constitutional republic because they want, in the case where they think they can win in their population centers in New York and California, they want to decide who the president is. They want to decide the Senate now. Now they want the Senate to be representative based, based on the number of people in a state. This is absurd. And now because they don't like how the courts worked out. So you attack the presidency, you attack the legislative branch. Now they want to pack the courts too. There are actual suggestions from credible people on the left, credible people on the left, that they add justices to the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:43:27 which hasn't been done since 1869. Remember, folks, FDR suggested this. He didn't implement it. Even with massive control of the government, FDR, the closest thing we've had to a monarch in a long time, even FDR had a back down in his court packing scheme. Folks, this is actually being suggested right now that more judges be added to the Supreme Court because the Democrats do not like the fact that they lost their majority. Yeah, exactly, Joe. Joe's telling them they're
Starting point is 00:43:59 number one right now with the wrong finger. Actually, the right finger in this case. This is just amazing. They cannot decide what they want. They want majority rule when they lose, and when they think they can't win on an issue, they don't want majority rule. They want it off the ballot, and they want it decided in the courts. Pick it. Which one?
Starting point is 00:44:21 All right. Finally, this is, folks, a really good story, by the way, about the budget deficit. I don't want you to miss this out because I covered this last night a little bit on Levin. It's really good stuff. Today's show brought to you by, sorry, I was just reading this out. Today's show brought to you by Buddies at BrickHouse Nutrition. Love BrickHouse. Foundation's my favorite product.
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Starting point is 00:46:02 Danny Downer here, but I'm here to give you the facts and I don't like spin. I can't stand it. We're in a lot of trouble with the budget deficit. I have a couple articles in the show notes today. I strongly encourage you to read one from CNS News and one from the Washington Examiner. One is about our exploding budget deficit. Remember, there's a difference between deficits and debt. Debt is our accumulated deficits over time. It's basically how much money the United States owes, whether it be to US citizens or intra-governmental expenditures and debt. It's how much money we owe. The deficits are the annual shortfalls every year. In other words, the government spends $4 trillion and the government only has, say, $3.2 trillion. Then the deficit's obviously about
Starting point is 00:46:46 $800, which it was. It was close to $800 billion this year. The budget deficit this year, and I'm saying this, folks, not to be a downer, not to get anybody in a bad mood before this election. We need to win. But folks, Trump can only sign the budget that the House of Representatives and the Senate put up there. It is way, way, way past time we put pressure on these representatives to get Trump a budget which puts a cap or controls on the spending. Let me give you just an example of what's going on. The budget deficit this year, $779 billion. It's the largest budget deficit since 2012, $779 billion. We're spending $4.1 trillion. We only have about $3.3 trillion in tax revenue. Ladies and gentlemen, government spending is up. It's up $4.1 trillion from $4 trillion. I bring this up because the Democrats are going right back to the
Starting point is 00:47:44 well with their gaslighting lying nonsense, suggesting again that this is due to a tax problem. Folks, it is not due to a tax problem. The way I lay it out in the show notes, the answer is obvious. First, I have the deficit article. It's quick. It's lean. It's mean. Move on right next have the deficit article. It's quick, it's lean, it's mean. Move on right next
Starting point is 00:48:05 to the tax article. In income taxes, the federal government this year, Joe, raised record amounts of money, $1.6 trillion in income taxes. That is a record. We do not have a tax problem. Now, again, being candid on the numbers, the corporate tax intake did go down about $100 billion, but the income tax revenue is up. Corporate taxes likely went down because of the one-time expensing write-off. They will recover. This is not a taxing problem, folks. It's not. Federal overall tax revenue are down a tad. The federal government deficit is up dramatically and income tax revenue is up. So yes, overall tax revenue is slightly down by a sliver.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's 3.4 in the past, about 3.3 now, 3.3 trillion. Again, a lot of that due to one-time expensing on the corporate front. But ladies and gentlemen, it is not a tax issue. Tax revenue is relatively flat. Government spending's gone up. And the budget deficit is far more than any decrease in corporate taxes. If we lost 100, and by the way, the government, I don't really care about the government losing tax revenue. Let me be clear on that but if the government lost 100 uh 100 billion in tax revenue
Starting point is 00:49:29 was up in income tax revenue and the government spending and the deficit went up by 779 billion it's obviously not a taxing problem even if that 100 billion joe was recovered next year in a corporate tax revenue we're still still $679 billion short. This is not a taxing issue, folks. This is a spending issue. The one final piece to the Trump puzzle to turn this country around for generations, we've got the tax reform.
Starting point is 00:50:02 We've got tremendous work on the courts. We've got regulatory reform reform we've got tremendous work on the courts we've got regulatory form the one final piece is government spending he has got to get a lid on this he is the one president that can do this after these midterm elections when these budgets come up he cannot folks if we listen i'm sorry to say this but if the government has to shut down. I'm sorry to say this because I don't you know, I get it. Some of you may object this, but the government is shutting itself down by bankrupting itself.
Starting point is 00:50:34 This is going to happen. We don't have the money. We cannot possibly run 700 billion dollar plus deficits every single year in a four trillion dollar budget. It's not possible, folks. It's not possible, folks. It's not possible. Something has to be done. We are walking off a bankruptcy clip. It is an arithmetic mathematical certainty at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:56 We are walking into absolutely certain bankruptcy. If he can get a cap on this, just a cap cap that's all i'm asking at this point we need to cut spending dramatically but folks i understand we're not that all this isn't going to be done at one time you know for all the nonsense that gets uh chatted about me in these liberal uh these liberal media sites who can't stand me i get it i get that we're not going to get everything at one time. Just put a cap on it. Just put a cap on it for now. They had that penny plan a while. It's a great idea. Cut a penny from every dollar of spending. Just put a cap on it for now. At least we can get some government controls on the spending level. It is out of control, folks. Out of control.
Starting point is 00:51:47 All right. Please read those articles. They're really good. All right, here's the last story. They have one up at Bongino.com. Check this out at the show notes too. Another story up there. We expanded the website. We appreciate all your traffic there. We have a bunch of new material up there. We've got people now writing for us, which is great. We've got Matt Palumbo writing. There's a ton of articles up there, but one of them I think you'll like. So there's an article out that a left-wing writer wrote that Hillary, he put a battle plan together for Hillary 2020, for Hillary to get back in the race again,
Starting point is 00:52:18 which is, yes, slightly comical. I mean, why Hillary would run again for the third time for president is absurd. Usually you lose the first time like a Romney type or a McCain. You come back, you give it a second try. You give it the old college try, and after that, you hang up the cleats. I mean, listen, I've been pretty brutally honest with my political career. You give it a couple shots, and then you move on.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You try something else, right? This writer suggests that Hillary Clinton has a path to the 2020 nomination for president, but it's an interesting one. The only reason I bring it up is because the battle plan he puts together is the exact same one she did when I was with her as a Secret Service agent early in my career in the Melville field office of the Secret Service when she was running initially for the U.S. Senate. A lot of you may have forgotten this because so much has happened in the news cycle since Hillary Clinton ran back in that, was it, the election was in 99, 2000, was it? Yeah, but 2000 or so when she ran. She ran against Giuliani for Senate in New York, Rudy Giuliani, and later when he dropped out against Rick Lazio. I was with her all the time. She was out in Long Island. It was one area she was struggling a little bit. She desperately wanted that U.S. Senate seat. Joe, people seem to forget that Hillary Clinton at the time, I think it was Moynihan's seat she was running for, the U.S. Senate ran as a moderate, if not Bill Clinton type Democrat. Now, Hillary Clinton's a chameleon. Don't for a second, folks, be fooled
Starting point is 00:53:39 by the fact that she did that. She believed in it. Hillary Clinton is a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. There's no question about it. She's a far left. She's as far left. She's farther to the left than Obama. The thing about Hillary Clinton is she'll fudge the numbers on that, and she'll lie to you to get elected, and then turn around and slam the door in your face when moderates come knocking, right?
Starting point is 00:54:00 But when she did run, this author brings up an interesting point. She ran Joe against, quote was super predators. You know, she was going to be tough on crime. You know, she was a centrist on immigration. She ran as kind of a not only a moderate, but almost a Bill Clinton type Democrat. She won handily. So the guy's suggestion in the piece is that with the Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren wing of the party, in other words, this far left socialist bent they've all taken, Cory Booker and others, that there may be, Joe, a hole in the offensive line here to run it right up the middle for Hillary Clinton to actually grab the nod for 2020. I have the piece in my show notes today.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It's at my website. Check it out. It's at my website. Check it out. It's an interesting piece. Folks, the reason I bring it up too is do not for a second, you know, me and Joe laughed at the beginning. We get it because it is kind of, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's funny, but don't tactically wave it off either. Don't put it past her for a second to run again. Having said that now, so that's the, so you understand what the theory is. The theory is Hillary Clinton now needs to lift and shift again, move back to the middle
Starting point is 00:55:07 like she did when she won her Senate seat. And I remember I was there. They're right. I mean, she ran as a pretty moderate Democrat at the time that there's a hole there. Here's the problem, folks, that I think the author kind of fails to address in any substantive way. Hillary Clinton is already on the record taking these far left positions now in her last race against Donald Trump the YouTube videos are endless now you may say yeah but the media won't
Starting point is 00:55:32 give her a pass on that no no no no no folks in a general they wouldn't you're right the media forget all of that Hillary's hypocrisies but in a primary it is game on remember the media in the primary they're far leftist they want their leftist buddies to win hillary clinton they've already invested all the time in her and got burned in a primary if hillary clinton were to run again all of these videos and speeches and debates with trump where she comes out with these far left positions if she if if she tries to swing right and moderate again back to her 20 uh her 2000 election with Lazio in the Senate, if she tries to do it, the media, I have absolutely no doubt, folks, at all, in my mind, the media would expose her as being a complete total phony.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Now, again, if she wins a primary, they'd let all that go. But don't for a second think that they wouldn't expose her. So I think that the author of the piece kind of falls short on that. Remember, she's already on the record with all this stuff. There's no way to write. You know how many campaign videos would be made by Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and others just hammering her for her complete total hypocrisy if she tries to get tough on immigration and crime again? It would be endless. She would be in a world of trouble.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I don't think she would have any shot. All right, folks. Thanks again for tuning in. Thanks to everybody who picked up my book. We're still on the top 100 on Amazon. If you haven't picked up a copy yet, please check it out. Spygate, The Attempted Sabotage of Donald Trump. Thank you for your terrific reviews on Amazon. We're up to 334 reviews. 333 of them are five star. So thank you. That means a lot to me. I've been reading them all. You guys and ladies out there are great. So available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, bookstores everywhere.
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