The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 836 What Really Happened Yesterday?

Episode Date: October 25, 2018

Summary: In this episode I address the suspicious package threat and possible explanations for the methodology. I also address an interesting connection in the Russia case that has received almost no media coverage. Finally, I address some positive news about the midterm elections and the economy.    News Picks: Our latest piece covers the latest developments on the caravan.   This Washington Examiner piece address the suspicious package scare.    The person responsible for these suspicious packages will likely be caught relatively quickly.     This Politico piece by Ali Watkins addresses a forgotten figure in the Spygate scheme.    The media coverage of the suspicious packages has been horrible.    Repealing the tax cuts could cost Americans tens of thousands of dollars.    Here’s a convenient chart to refute “fair share” talking points.    Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today what a day what a day what a day what yeah i know really stacked uh news day so don't go anywhere um let me just get right to it folks i want to waste your time today's show brought to you by our buddies at saucy a new sponsor. Check them out. Super easy to use. I love this site. Everyone at some point has wished they could just have beer, wine, or liquor delivered.

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some other stories out there um i have some pretty good contacts obviously in the secret service and other where and uh and in other places in the federal government um you know just from having worked there i'm not patting myself on the back it's if you work there you'd have the same ones uh there's something not right here now i i guess the best way to do this is to not bury the lead and put the lead in the front as i've been doing lately there's only two possible explanations to this to this suspicious package uh threat we have out there explanation number one is that this is a grotesquely ranked amateur intending to inspire terror. Now, the terror part applies to both explanations because any idiot willing to do such a, I mean, this is something so stupid and traumatize people like this.

You're a savage, right? Right. But explanation number one, Joe, this is an amateur. I'll explain why in a second. Or explanation number two, it's not an amateur. Matter of fact, it's someone who knows exactly what they're doing and is trying to look like an amateur. Now, those two cannot possibly exist at the same time. You either don't know what you're doing or you do know what you're doing and you're trying to look like someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

All right, Agent Bongino. Where are you going from here? Yes, I know. And I was going to talk to Joe, but Joe and I are friends, so we chat before the show. I said, let me save this one of the things that sticks out uh to me and to others is the fact that these are uh unbelievably amateurish devices let me just point out some things to point that to indicate that they are they're not these are not uh devices that someone who was experienced in these sinister dark arts I would put together. Number one, if you were intending to harm someone via a package bomb,

God forbid, you do not want that package bomb to be suspicious. Well, why would that be, Joe? Because simply you don't want it to be detected, right? This is not complicated. So there are things you do to minimize detection. These are obvious ones that were not present on this. I mean, you don't put a printer label on a package in 700 font. You get what I'm saying?

You keep the font normal or you print in normal block letters so it would look like a standard package or envelope. That is not the case with this thing. like a standard package or envelope. That is not the case with this thing. Secondly, as I indicated on a Fox & Friends appearance this morning, and I'll put out to you there, and this is all out there, folks. I wouldn't divulge any classified information. This is all out there already. I wish it weren't, but it is.

Printers leave a signature on printed documents. I don't know if you all are aware of this, but they do. It's like a fingerprint, isn't it? Yes. Well said, my friend. They leave a printer. How it's done, I'm not at liberty to say, but it's a technique we used when investigating counterfeit money in the past. When I first got on the Secret Service, what we called P-notes, computer printed notes, were almost non-existent. Everything was done via some form of a press, a printing press. As printer technology got better, people started to pass what we call P-notes. One of the ways that's very easy to detect P-notes is by the

pattern a printer leaves on a printed bill. You can find out what printer it is, like Joe said, and I'll leave it at this, it leaves a fingerprint. Those fingerprints and literal fingerprints are most likely on those packages and on those printer labels. This is an amateur hour operation. Combine that with the size 700 font on the front, I think meant to draw attention to these packages, which makes no sense if your goal was to get these packages, God forbid, to detonate, says to me, again, this is either an amateur operation or someone trying to look amateur. I will get to that point again in a moment. Some other indicators that there's something seriously wrong and very suspicious about this case outside of the obvious disturbing nature

of it in general. The packaging, folks, people who do this, and people like the Unabomber and others who have successfully, sadly, pulled off these horrible attacks, the packaging, the excessive packaging is one of the indicators that there may be something wrong with the package at your location.

Excessive packaging and tape is put in for a reason, Joe. The reason's quite obvious if you think about it if you don't want your device to be detected you can't have the device inside get somehow get wet on the packaging and then say one of the angles of it if it's a pipe or whatever it may be or some kind of uh explosive device in black powder you don't want the angle to push through the envelope you get what i'm saying you don't want the you don't want the angle to push through the envelope. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.

You don't want the envelope to open. So it's not uncommon to see this excessive packaging and wrapping and taping and taping on top of more taping in these devices. That was present here. Having said that, the excessive packaging is usually an indicator, and this person made a point to really overdo it with the packaging on this one. Another point indicating the amateur nature of this the stamps uh six forever stamps the same stamps put on uh these

devices the same kind of stamps the same obviously the placement that's pretty standard uh on on i mean that's obvious but the six stamps in the uh in that same layout on the package, the overuse of postage, putting all that postage is another indicator that this was an amateur hour operation. This was done often in the past in these incidents, the excessive postage to make sure the device, let's say, gets to its intended location. But this one, again, seemed to be obvious combine that with the fact joe that these stamps were not did not have the black parallel lines over the stamps which the post office does after the it is processed through the facility why so that the stamp can't be reused right there are no stamps on the stamp meaning these were not processed through a post office facility,

meaning why would you put the stamps on there? It was either a courier or they were hand-delivered and meant to look like U.S. mail. They were not. Another indicator, this is an amateur hour operation or meant to look like one. Ladies and gentlemen, if you were so driven by hatred that you felt the need to mail a explosive device to a person you could not stand and had such vitriol in your heart for, let's use John Brennan as an example. You would probably figure out where he actually worked and understand what the spelling of his name was. That's not what happened in this case. The printer label not only mailed a package for John Brennan to CNN, but it spelled John Brennan's name wrong.

It spelled a number of names wrong. It spelled Debbie Wasserman Schultz's name wrong as well on the return label. Folks, John Brennan's name is spelled with two N's, not one. John Brennan does not work for CNN. John Brennan's name is spelled with two N's, not one. John Brennan does not work for CNN. John Brennan works for NBC. If you are deranged enough to do this and send a package to John Brennan, you would have thought putting all that work, air quotes here, into developing your deadly device or your suspicious package in general, you would think you would do basic research to figure out what John Brennan's name

is actually spelled like and where he worked. This all reeks. There's something not right about this case, folks. Something is not right. Now, here's the kicker. Again, we're dealing with the headline here. This is either a rank amateur or a hardcore professional designed to look like a rank amateur. Now, I've given you no evidence so far that this is a professional, Joe.

All I've said so far is the print, the packaging, the stamps, the misspellings, the names, the way the devices were delivered. This sounds like an amateur. Does it really? Let me bring up an interesting point you brought up to me. Okay, Agent Bongino. Yeah. Joe, if you were, God forbid, an amateur bomb maker putting together these devices and you were so bad at doing it, you couldn't even figure out the initiator, how it works right, but you're dealing with highly explosive toxic compounds. One of the things we'd seen in the past, and there's numerous examples of this,

are these guys missing fingers. Sometimes they turn up dead. Or typically we get a call from a police department saying, wow, we heard a loud explosion in apartment 6C. Why does that happen? Because they're so stupid, a lot of these rookies at this, they can't figure out how to not blow themselves up. Ladies and gentlemen, even professional bomb makers, a lot of them are missing numerous digits on their fingers. All the evidence I gave you just now is that this person

has no idea what they're doing, thankfully, in the construction of an explosive device inserted into the mail system or the courier system. If that were the case, it would be highly likely, highly likely that this person would have either killed himself by now or we would have some hospital records of someone showing up in a hospital with a missing digit or an arm because they have no idea how to construct these things. How do know they have no idea because none of them actually exploded thank the lord none of them that says to me ladies and gentlemen that this was not an amateur

this was not an amateur this was probably someone with some experience who designed these things to intentionally not go off some of the other indicators one of the according to media reports one of the other devices was constructed using pvc pipe you know ladies and gentlemen that's obviously a very stupid way to do this you have to constrain what creates the the pressure and the blast is constraining the actual explosive power within a steel encasement right right it's what creates that force if you just light up a bunch of black powder on a field you just get a poof you constrain those gases in a steel tube you create a lot of problems. This is clearly, in my mind at this point, somebody who knew what they were doing and wanted these devices to be detected. Wanted these devices to be detected. Now, what worries me about this now, Joseph,

is the potential for a tactical shift going forward if what i told you is true and i believe it is and i believe this person will be caught expeditiously i'm expecting uh i mean listen and the predictions game is is irresponsible here but let's just say in the coming days i believe someone's going to be caught i believe who who it is and let me just not say too much i think it's going to surprise you yeah i think it's going to surprise a lot of people what's going on here um uh behind the scenes with this but what worries me now is a tactical shift from this person if this person as i believe has some kind of experience with explosive devices how to detonate them and most importantly joe how to not detonate them how to

get these kind of black powder or potential explosive devices through the mail without them going off and i believe that was the intention at this point it defies uh credulity at this point that this person mailed nine devices and none of them went off what worries me is a potential tactical shift to devices that will go off that will go off. That will go off. That should be on everybody's mind right now. Would not be unheard of for things like this to happen. Now, one more point on this, because I do have a lot of news to cover today. The example, it's brought up a lot, I know, because it was brought up to me on the news and a couple of radio interviews um about the unabomber and things like that that it took a long time for

the unabomber to be found um in other words that this person may take a long time to catch this person as well it may um i don't think it will i believe uh the fact that all these packages were left behind leaves behind a body of evidence um there's a lot of tape on some of these devices folks tape is the way we get fingerprints uh the chances of avoiding a fingerprint on nine unexploded devices are slim uh to none um but i believe this person uh will probably be caught in the coming days and uh i just you have a question here yeah i do have a question i i can't remember who said it, but I want to know if it's correct, if you think it's correct. There's more detonations of bombs being built than there are of bombs being used in execution. Is that? Yeah, that's exactly right. That's one of the reasons I mentioned that to you, one of the points I've been discussing with Pat.

That's a lot of bombs to build and not blow up. Let's say. Yeah, it's an awful, and it speaks to a person's ability to professionally handle, I'm glad you brought this up, explosive device. These are obviously toxic compounds. Yeah. Obviously. And the fact that none of these devices

have exploded, or we have no indication yet that they've exploded while they were in construction, says to me that this is someone who knows what they're doing. That's what I meant. Yeah, thanks, man. Yeah yeah thanks man yeah yeah yeah of course i saw you like you were joe's doing this thing where he like touches his chin and when joe touches his chin that means he's

got some kind of a question he's waiting for me to he's waiting for me to answer but on the unabomber front i just wanted to tie that part up too the unabomber operated over years and years and years and he was tactically uh very strategically putting those those those units those explosive devices in the mail at different locations over extended periods of time the reason he took so long to get caught is there was no clear pattern at the start well what what's happening what's different in this case is there is a clear pattern we have the stamps we have the packaging theploded devices, the fact that he may have used a courier. We're going to have video. There's a video dragnet all over Manhattan where this device this morning that was left

at De Niro's place in Tribeca, was it the Triangle Below Canal in downtown Manhattan. These people, whoever did this or was organizing this, did it in such a short period of time that they had to. Just by default, having these unexploded devices in the video left a body of evidence behind. And given the full assets of the United States government dedicated to this, I believe this person will be caught soon. Very soon. One final note on this. I have an article up in the show notes today I encourage you to read. I was furious

furious yesterday at the media coverage of this ladies and gentlemen it has been disgusting it has been horrifying you know i said to you joe i should have asked you to do this and you know we've been busy lately and i don't want to bog you down with work right but i thought of this last night and i just got so busy i forgot it but i did a show ladies and gentlemen a long time ago after the horrendous uh baseball field incident in alexandria where steve scalise was was uh shot and a number of other members of congress were shot at by a bernie sanders supporter and joe i know you remember the show and you know i don't like playing old clips of myself. It's kind of dopey.

But I can summarize what I said because I remember the show like it was yesterday. And this just goes to show you the abhorrent, disgusting, horrifying coverage of the liberal media. Horrendous people out there. I mean, unbelievable what they're doing here, trying to pin this on Donald Trump. I had said to you back then, I'll say say it again and i will say it anytime this happens after the bernie sanders supporter nearly killed steve scalese i made a point acutely in that moment that we have to temper this and understand that this was not bernie sanders fault it's not now you call it whatever you want listen to me i don't

care because i know where my heart and my head were at the time. It is a dangerous, slippery slope to start blaming other people, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, or Sarah Palin, or anybody else for the deranged action of lunatics. Joe, neither you nor I have any control of what people decide to do out there if they have such darkness in their hearts that they want to physically harm others we have made a point on this show repeatedly call it your virtue signaling i don't care what you call it i know i have made a point with this show repeatedly because i know what's in my heart i know what's in joe's heart that violence proactive violence is never ever ever ever the answer period full stop thank you i'm not telling anybody not to defend themselves if

they're attacked i have said this over and over and i made a point after that dreadful episode with steve scalise where he almost died that that was not bernie sanders fault and the minute we go down that road that well you know the guy was a bernie supporter so bernie did this we open ourselves up to a society of of really mob like behavior where anyone and everyone can be attacked at any time. Anyone can be tied to anything. They can say, oh my gosh, Joe Armacost tweeted a year ago that he didn't like the politics of Maxine Waters. So Joe's response, get him! What do you get?

You get a witch hunt. A legitimate witch hunt. Remember the witch trials? If they float, they were witches and if they drown, they were witches. It was like you were a witch either way. It was a loose loop. I probably didn't explain that well

so I'll get a thousand emails. But you get the point. The whole purpose of a witch hunt is you always find a witch. And many of you thankfully agreed with me. I got a lot of feedback on that. A couple of you didn't you said well listen the democrats are out there calling for aggressive confrontation folks

yes the ones who are calling for aggressive confrontation of public officials out there i'm not going to tell you have not played a role at least in creating an environment a really nasty toxic environment. I've never said, I've always gone after these people for doing that. But we cannot put the behavior of individuals on others. It leads us down a dangerous path. Now, I only say that because the media, they're abhorrent, horrendous coverage of this event. Joe, they have zero clues, zero, none.

They have absolutely no idea who did this. They don't know the motive of all of the W's out there, the how, the who, the why, the when, of all the W's out there, Joe, what's the most important? The who. Who did this is the most important. That's how you determine a motive. They have idea folks they have no idea who did this and you've got people like brian stelter making these slight insinuations that these are trump targets you got cnn running chiron's target trump targets under attack as if trump somehow was responsible for this i said to you on that episode i'll wrap it up with this. I said to you, wait, you watch when something happens to a Democrat, I was saying

this during the Scalise incident when a Republican was under attack, the media will pay you back no favors. And the point I was making at the time was I was not doing it because I was expecting the media to be honest later. These people are not honest. They're not.

I remember the show, Joe. I said to you, I'm doing this because it's the right thing. It is not Bernie Sanders' fault that some loony tune tried to kill Steve Scalise on a baseball field. It's just not. You know, I got some criticism yesterday for owning the libs. Owning the libs is about the exercise of political power, you idiots. Do you even listen to the show? To these morons?

Did you miss the whole episode? We have purposefully, me being a former Secret Service agent, having experience with this, openly, vigorously spoken out against these kind of aggressive confrontational tactics. But make no mistake, Joe, from the corrupted, horrible media, I expect no courtesy in return. None. I knew you would do this. I knew you would do it when it happened. I knew you would do it immediately without any evidence. I knew you would not practice journalism. I knew you would practice liberal narrative advocacy. And sadly, tragically, you proved me right.

narrative advocacy and sadly tragically you proved me right and you know what even though you continue to do this god forbid another incident happens with the democrat another incident happens today god forbid one of these devices is functional and actually goes off i will still no matter what if something were to happen to a republican today i will insist because it's the right thing to do that the individual is responsible for their behavior. This is not some collective thing where Democrats are responsible for what some loony tune does. But again, ladies and gentlemen, expect no courtesy and no civility and no morally or ethically upstanding behavior from the media who will turn around on a dime and blame you for this. Ignoring the fact that white powder was sent to Don Jr.'s house, that there was some suspected ricin attack on Susan Collins' house.

Expect none of that. Jim Mattis got a package. Those stories have all disappeared already, Joe. And can I say one more thing, folks? disappeared already, Joe. And can I say one more thing, folks? You know, the treatment of Fox. You may say, well, you're on Fox. I don't care.

I'm sorry. I'd have to put this out there. The treatment of Fox by other left-wing media nuts out there has been disgusting. Fox has been running 24-hour nearly 24 hour, sometimes commercial free coverage of the attack on CNN and Democrats. You know why, Joe? Because it's an important story. Right. And yet these other stories, Trump being called a Nazi, treasonous stories about rice and attacks on them. White powder. They get coverage by the other networks,

but they go away quickly. But when it comes down to a real story, Fox provides 24 hour coverage and yet they'll attack Fox. Gross, gross, absolutely grotesque. All right. I got a lot more to get to today,

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discussed this with you. No, you haven't. But it is fascinating. Folks, there's an article from November 9th of 2017 by Ali Watkins. Oh, remember the name. Some of you are picking that up right now. Some of you may not be. There's an article in Politico I'm going to put up in the show notes. And again, it's from November 9th of 2017. It's going to be the second or third article down in the show notes. If you subscribe to my email list, I'll email them right to you. And it is a fascinating piece, not only because of the content of it, but who wrote it. Ali Watkins, Ali Watkins, the author. Who is Ali Watkins? Why Allie Watkins. Allie Watkins, the author. Who is Allie Watkins? Why does that name sound familiar?

Allie Watkins was the love interest, girlfriend of the Senate staffer on the Senate Intel Committee that was handling the collusion investigation, Joe. The girlfriend of the Senate staffer on that committee who was alleged to be the recipient of many leaks from that committee. You remember Wolf, the guy on the committee who was arrested and is being prosecuted for allegedly leaking the FISA warrant? Yes.

This is his girlfriend, Allie Watkins, who was supposed to be the recipient of the text messages about the FISA warrant. Now, remember, we had discussed this before. Interestingly enough, when the FISA warrant is delivered to the Senate Intel Committee, excuse me, when it's delivered to the Senate Intel Committee, it is likely delivered in unredacted form. The FISA warrant is 82 pages. He texts Wolf, his girlfriend at the time, Allie Watkins, according to the charging documents, he texts his girlfriend 82 times, most likely screenshots of each individual page of the

FISA warrant. Now, if you're a closet investigator out there, you're probably figuring out where I'm going with this. If not, I'll explain it to you. There were whole pages of the FISA warrant blacked out, meaning they were like black dots. They got the Senate Intel Committee, most likely the unredacted portion of the FISA. If it was 82 pages and he texts his girlfriend 82 times, he most likely, Joe, would not text his girlfriend a fully redacted page. Hey, Joe, check this out. Here's a big black dot on a page. They're not going to do that. Why would you text pages and pages and pages of blank documents?

You wouldn't do that. It's absurd. It's ridiculous. What am I suggesting? I'm suggesting that the unredacted FISA, in other words, this entire basis for this case, the garbage case that's in there, all the information that we're supposed to see soon, if Trump follows through on this declassification request, that the media may already have this, may already have the unredacted FISA with all the devastating information in there.

Now, the author of this piece, Watkins, in this Politico piece, according to the reports, is the girlfriend and is the recipient of these texts. So she may have a boatload of information about the genesis of this case. Folks, please understand what I'm telling you because the rest of this story, that part's old. But if you don't understand that part, the rest of this will make no sense. I'm about to dig into and some of the very, very suspicious components of it is the girlfriend of the guy leaking sensitive information from the Senate Intel Committee. And one of the pieces of that sensitive intel information is, I believe, the unredacted FISA based on the pattern of texting, meaning she knows almost the whole story that Nunes and others know because she's most likely read portions of the unredacted FISA and understands how bad this case is and some really suspicious stuff. Now, when you read this Politico article, a whole lot of things are going to start to

make sense. The Politico article is about Mifsud and Papadopoulos. Remember Mifsud is the Maltese professor who starts this whole thing by confronting Papadopoulos in March of 2016 by a meeting with Papadopoulos and alleging that the Russians have dirt. But, but, but Mifsud Joe introduces Papadopoulos at one point to a woman he calls, and I say he calls because nobody's really sure what this woman's name is. This is a good portion. This is in the book, by the way. This is my Spygate book. the Trump team member, to a woman by the name of Olga Vinogradova, or Polonskaya, depending

on what last name you choose. And he introduces her, Joe, as Putin's niece. Let me read from the piece. This is going to, I promise you, this is going to be fascinating. Where are we going here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is going to get good. So again, the woman writing this likely knows the entire story about fbi malfeasance because her boyfriend is on the senate intel

committee and we know is texting her here's this is from her politico piece quote mifsud introduced vino gridova to poppinopolis as someone with high profile ties to the russian government oh russian woman mifsud goes hey look it's putin's nation has high profile ties to the Russian government. Oh, Russian woman. Mr. goes, hey, look, it's Putin's niece. She has high profile ties to the Russian government, which was then seeking better relations with the U.S. and an end to Western economic sanctions imposed over Russian aggression in Ukraine. One Papadopoulos email to Trump campaign officials said the woman had offered to. officials said the woman had offered to, oh, this is too perfect, to arrange a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump. Wow, how convenient.

So the Maltese professor, Joseph Mifsud, who's alleged to have started this whole thing, right, and in the Democrat narrative is a Russian agent, despite the fact that all the evidence indicates he has significant ties to Western intelligence, not the significant, not as significant to his ties to Russian, Russian agents. All of a sudden finds this woman, Joe, out of nowhere, who claims to be Putin's niece, who claims to have these high level ties to Russia and can set up meetings. Whoa, isn't that convenient? How about that? Well, what's interesting? None of this is news. That's in the book.

Well, we've been holding on to something for a while. And an email I got yesterday leads me to believe that it's probably time to put it out there. Folks, what's fascinating about one of the documents used to prosecute Papadopoulos is if you read about his interactions with Mifsud, and hat tip to you know who you are, they're spoken about in a third-person format, Joe. How would that happen? Now, let me... I'm not explaining that well.

So Mifsud, the Maltese professor who starts this whole thing, right? By allegedly saying that the Russians have dirt on Hillary, tells Papadopoulos, starts this whole thing, this collusion nonsense, right? Those interactions are documented in prosecutorial documents used against Papadopoulos. But they're spoken about from a third person's perspective. Now, I know it doesn't make sense to see the look on your face. If you and I, Joe, are having an interaction and we're talking about robbing a bank and in the charging document

it says well Joe Armacost initially didn't take it seriously but then he decided to take it seriously based on the look on his face who could that information come from if only you and I are at the table one of us yes it's not you're looking at me like I'm crazy. One of us! But I don't think it was Mifsud. Unless, Joe, they had a recording of it. Now, if they had a recording

of it, who the hell was Mifsud working for? How did they get the recording? In other words, if this is a collusion operation with the Russians and Mifsud is a Russian agent, how the heck did they get the recording? The Russians aren't going to give it to them?

Joe, is this making sound confusing? No, no, no. I'm with you. Yeah, I got you. Mifsud's working for the Russians to collude to overthrow an election and the charging document talks about it from a third-person perspective, like a bird's-eye view over their meeting.

There's only two possible scenarios. Either Papadopoulos said it, Mifsud said it, or there's someone recording the darn thing. Now, a great point pointed out by this person, which I'm not trying to take credit for his stuff. We've been looking at this for a while. And his email, it's time to get it out there. not trying to take credit for his stuff i just we we've been looking at this for a while and his email it's time to get it out there talks about a part of part of the charging document maybe the

using the language of the charging document will make this make more sense okay here's what's written in there joe initially the professor seemed uninterested in the defendant talking about papadopoulos. It then goes on to say the professor appeared to take great interest in defendant Papadopoulos. Talk about later on. How would they know that? Were they there?

It's not Mifsud saying it. Right. That I'm confident of. And that helps. Because he's not cooperating. How, Joe, how do they know that? How do they know that? Was this recorded?

If this was recorded, how was it recorded? Now, there's another possibility there. There seems to be some intimate knowledge of these details between the meeting between Mifsud and Papadopoulos. Detailed knowledge, whether they were recorded. Now, was it recorded by Mifsud? I don't know that yet. I don't want to speculate where I don't know. But what I'm telling you is there's a bird's eye view of this that was

i don't believe passed on i don't believe was passed on by miss sud unless unless he was cooperating do i i this is killing me because i i know i know a lot about it and i think i'm not getting out right if sud's a russian agent and he's recording this thing he's not going to give the information to the central intelligence Agency of the United States. He would implicate himself as a Russian agent. Yes. You get what I'm saying? Yes.

If Joe was really going to rob a bank at a meeting with me and he's recording a conversation, he's not going to give the recording to the cops. No. No, exactly. Which you can pretty much eliminate Mifsud at this point being a Russian agent. They somehow have some bird's eye view of this. There's only two explanations. It was recorded, given to them by Mifsud, meaning he's not a Russian agent. He was working with them.

Working with friendlies to set up Trump. Or there's a third party there. Now you see where I'm going with the Politico article? This Allie Watkins seems to know an awful lot about the whole case an awful long time ago. This piece was written November 9th, 2017. She does a piece focusing specifically on this Russian woman, Olga Vinogradova or Polul and sky or whatever you want

to call her no one really knows her name joe just like mif sud you notice we haven't heard a darn thing about miss olga since yeah so suspiciously this woman who speaks with a heavy russian accent who introduces herself as putin's niece so convenient. She's not Putin's niece, by the way. Says, I have these high-level Russian contacts. Just randomly shows up at a meeting between a Trump advisor, Papadopoulos, and a Maltese professor with Western intelligence. How perfect. Only, Joe, to never be heard from again. Now, she's in my book. But I ask you this, Joe, you follow this as almost intensely as I have,

being a part of this show. Yeah. I tell you, remember the names often. Have you even heard that name before? No. No, you haven't. The only Russian woman I've heard is Villanetskaya or whatever.

Villanetskaya. Yeah. See, you remember that name. Close enough. You haven't heard Vinita Grova, Polanskaya? Yeah. You remember that name. Close enough. You haven't heard Vinod Agrova, Polonskaya? Because nobody's talking about her. Folks, just like I said to you about Mifsud, where it's absolutely impossible to disappear the way Mifsud did and to avoid any... No one's seen Mifsud since his February interview with the FBI from last year.

Nobody's seen him. February interview with the FBI from last year. Nobody's seen him. Nobody's seen or heard of Olga Vinogradova. Nobody's heard from her since. Folks, this was so obviously a setup that, again, you have to intentionally have

blinders on at this point to believe this bag of horse. Because that's what it is. This is nonsense. You see how I'm wrapping this up, Joe? This was the perfect setup. Do you really think the Russians are... Guys, ladies, listen.

I'm no fan of Putin or the Russians. Let me be crystal clear about this. I have been intimately involved. What got me into politics was Reagan's fight against communism. But do you really think I spent time in Moscow is the three weeks, as a matter of fact, doing investigative work with their FSB when I was a secret service agent. These people aren't stupid, OK? No, they are not dumb, the Russians. Do you really believe that they're going to send this Maltese professor there, right, as their cutout and as and what they're and they're going to send a woman who is Putin's niece, who openly talks about her connections to the Russian government to try to set up a meeting with a low level member of the Trump team, you believe this is actually going to, this is the way it's going to go down. So let me get this straight, Joe.

The Russian government has a plan to overthrow the results of the US election or influence them heavily, right? Okay. So they send in a professor from Malta with connections to Western intelligence who knows UK intelligence officials and is intimately familiar with the Western intelligence apparatus. So they call in a guy connected to us who by the way could rat on them at any moment and they send in a woman

and she doesn't do it cryptically. She goes, yeah, I'm Putin's niece. I can set up a meeting. Does this sound even remotely logical to you? Are you like a crazy person? We haven't heard that in a while. Play it again. Are you like a crazy person? Yes, you must that in a while. Play it again. Are you like a crazy person? Yes, you must be.

I missed that one. I do too. No, I'm not crazy. This is the worst setup in human history. Oh, look, I've got this one. It's Putin's niece. She's going to set up a meeting. Really?

Wow, that sounds great. All of a sudden, we don't hear from the woman ever again. You're telling me nobody can locate this woman? Is it possible, Joe, also that bird's eye view, third party perspective, talking about, oh, and Mifsud didn't seem interested. But then he seemed interested. It's not Mifsud saying that. Who's saying that?

Folks, you have not heard the last. Nowe what would you say we're about a month ahead of the news cycle on this oh yeah mark it down but get your notebooks out folks olga poland sky check it out the book olga vino gridova you have not heard the last of that name this is the worst setup in human history by a bunch of incompetent loons. Read the Politico piece. It's in there today. And remember who wrote it. There's a reason that name appears in her writing.

Around the time she's dealing with her boyfriend on the Intel committee who knows the whole story, according to the FISA, the debunked dossier and feeds it to her. There's a reason she writes that. Now, remember, she knows the whole story according to the dossier and the Democrats, because that's what appeared in the FISA application. She doesn't know the real story. She just knows what she's been told. Hence the focus in her political piece about this shady Russian woman. Olga Vilga Vinogradova. Was she Russian?

Are we sure about that? Just how Russian was she? What is she doing? I never know what she's doing. What is she doing back there? Folks, this is going to get hairy. This story. I know a lot of you think this thing is dying down.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's a lot more to come. Write that name in your name notebook. More to come on that later. All right. Final lady, and I got a few more stories to get to that are really important. A lot of news this week. Today's show also brought to you by our buddies at We The People Holsters. Best holsters out there. Love them. They sent

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over these last few days has been absolutely horrifying watching the media i covered this on my nre tv show last night uh address this caravan has been uh just i i don't i they're not even media anymore joe it's not journalism not journalism. It's strictly a liberal narrative baiting. One of their talking points on this has been, and I addressed this yesterday as well, and I want to just double down on it because there's been a subsequent tweet put out. Liberals are giving us an easy messaging opportunity, and sadly, a lot of Republicans are missing it. They're asking Republicans for evidence that this caravan contains, in fact, criminals and gang members, when the real question is, how can you prove it doesn't? Because these are not citizens of the United States. They have no right to enter the country illegally. None. The real question here

is not asking me for proof that there are gang members. It's asking you proof that you know they're not. Have you vetted all 4,000 of these immigrants coming up to the country and threatening to enter illegally? Have you? It's a simple question. The answer is obviously no, you have not. So if you haven't, you can't prove to me that people entering our country and breaking the law, they have no right to do this, should be here and that some of them, granted, maybe a small portion, but some of them may be dangerous. Making the situation even worse, not to redo yesterday's show, but there's been some new news on this. The DHS, Department of Homeland Security, put out a tweet. Thoroughly refuting the media coverage on this, which has been Donald Trump needs to prove there are gang members and criminals.

Donald Trump doesn't need to prove anything. They're threatening to enter the country illegally. You have to prove that these folks are going to enter legally, number one, and should be here. You have to prove, not us. Here's the tweet, Joe. DHS can confirm, can, not can't, can, C-A-N, can confirm that there are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or who have serious criminal histories. That is a tweet from DHS. I worked at DHS, ladies and gentlemen.

They are not politicians. They're not going to humiliate themselves in a tweet for any political agenda. DHS clearly has significant intelligence, Joseph, that there are people in this caravan with significant criminal histories or who may be gang members. This is their tweet. They're not going to embarrass themselves on their Twitter feed. Telling you what? The media is just making this story up.

There's no evidence that there's criminals. Do you even read? Seriously, I said this yesterday. Someone suggested that we put it on a T-shirt. Liberals, do you even read? Seriously, do you even do? Seriously, do you pay attention to even basic facts and information? This is outrageous.

The DHS put out a tweet themselves. They can confirm. Can, no T at the end. Can confirm that there are gang members and people with significant criminal histories within the caravan. Joe, there are also investigative reporters on the ground talking to people in the caravan joe there are also investigative reporters on the ground

talking to people in the caravan who have already acknowledged that there were criminals in the caravan stop falling for this sucker argument republicans you need to prove that there are one we don't have to prove it dhs already put out a tweet so you're already down on the information front sorry uh you know information one liberal media zero but on the second front even if that weren't we don't have to prove anything they're not they're not saying they're going to enter the country legally through points of it they're threatening to break the law but there's nothing we have to that that in and of itself is enough to say no thanks we're good the fact that that DHS is now confirming their criminals and gang members in there is just an additional piece of information which incentivize any sane, rational person to say this is crazy. This is an invasion.

4000 people threatening to walk across the border illegally. This is nuts. All right. Couple more things I want to get to because it's important quick midterm election update ladies and gentlemen we're seeing two things two things here to put a little bit of a smile on your face again this is not incentivizing anyone to you know to rest on their laurels this could be you know what would happen in these last two days in these news cycles is troubling, and there could always be another surprise here. But it's starting to look like it's not going to be a red wave.

Let me be clear on this. But it's starting to look like the blue wave may, in fact, be dead, that they may, may, may hold the House. I think we're going to add to the Senate. I told you that in my prediction last week, but there's two data points I want to put out there. I think we're going to add to the Senate. I told you that in my prediction last week, but there's two data points I want to put out there. Number one, early polling in critical statewide Senate races, early voting. Early voting is up dramatically for the Republicans.

They are winning big time in some of these states in early voting. Now, having said that, that is not always the best indicator of what happens on Election Day. that is not always the best indicator of what happens on election day. I know that Joe, for, as you know, from personal experience where I won on election day, a congressional seat overwhelmingly by 5,000 votes. I was like,

this is great. I was measuring the drapes in my congressional office in Maryland district six. And they were like, wait, hold on. We still got to count the early voting and the absentee. And I got crushed. I wound up losing the race by,

by a sliver, by one point, because he made up all 5,000 of those votes and then some. So it is not, in other words, the early voting, if I would have just went by the early voting, I should have lost that race by 30 points. I lost by one, one point, that's it. So early voting is not always the best indicator. So get out, take out take 10 friends but secondly some of the polling if you listen to the shows i did earlier in the week about how they were where we're really having trouble folks we're having trouble in these suburban districts some of the areas dominated by minority voters who would vote for hillary whether it's florida 27 or texas 23 where we should be getting crushed

according to liberal media narrative. Oh, Hispanic voters don't like Trump. It's actually not happening. Will Hurd and the Elvira Salazar race in Florida, dominated by Hispanic voters in Southern Florida and in the border in Texas. The Republicans are doing quite well in those polls. Where we're having real problems is in the suburban districts. One of them I've been using as a bellwether district is the Barbara Comstock race right outside of D.C. in the Virginia suburbs. I think it's Virginia 10. Forgive me if I get that wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's Virginia 10.

Barbara Comstock, who I've interviewed before when I used to host radio, terrestrial radio, Barbara Comstock was getting just crushed in the polls. She was not doing, she's the incumbent Republican. Barbara Comstock has closed the gap significantly. Some polls have her running neck and neck with her Democrat opponent in one of those suburban districts. So again, is this a bellwether? I think so. But I think between chaos, the caravans and Kavanaugh, the two Cs and the one K, I think the Democrats have created a really, really untenable situation for themselves. And I think even in suburban districts, a lot of moderate Republican, moderate Democrat,

female soccer mom voters are starting to say, you know what, this chaos thing isn't for me. or mom voters are starting to say, ah, you know what? This chaos thing isn't for me. We'll see. We'll see. My prediction stays. I think we hold the house by two to four seats. I think we pick up two to three seats in the Senate. But those two factors, early voting, we're doing very well. And that Comstock race, which I believe is indicative of this suburban problem we've been having lately, is starting to close in too. And Comstock's starting to pick up some more numbers in the polls. Get out and vote, ladies and gentlemen. Like I said, I get the beef with early voting.

I understand it. I think seven-month-long early voting, obviously hyperbolic, is ridiculous. But this is not the time for that fight. Something, God forbid, could happen to you. You could get in a car accident the day of voting. Again, we don't wait. God forbid. But you need to get out and early vote.

Put your numbers in early. Get that thing on the record. Please. I did. I already voted. My wife and I both in Florida. Please do it. Okay.

Let's see. Oh, yeah. One cautionary tale here on this, and i want to get to a fair share argument too you know fair share fair share yeah liberal the rich are not paying their fair share i have a really good article up at uh zero hedge today at the show notes showing just in a very simple graph how absurd and outrageous the liberals fair share argument is that that you know uh the wealthy aren't paying their fair share but before i get to that just one note on the stock market that's

been very volatile. It's been up and down, lost 600 points yesterday. Folks, take it easy on everybody. The liberals want to instill a sense of panic before the election with the stock market. They love to highlight these stories. Oh, the stock market, the economy is all erratic. Folks, this is natural. There was always going to be a correction in the stock market. There may be an even bigger correction. Don't forget, for the eight years of Fed policy, where we printed a bunch of monopoly money and drove interest rates low, people were, they call it the search for yield, seeking alpha, right?

You have to search for yield on your money, yield, a return. If I have money sitting in a bank account, I want an interest rate. I want to make money on it, making money on money. That search for yield was impossible when we printed a lot of money because the federal government drove interest rates into the ground and the economy was slow, meaning there wasn't a lot of demand for money, so people couldn't charge a lot of yield. If you can't get three, four, 5% for your money, you have to search for yield somewhere else. So what were people doing, Joe? Pouring money in equities in the stock market. Interest rates are now going up. We're seeing it in the mortgage market. We're seeing it with

Fed policy. People have safer choices now where they can get some return on their money. You were always going to see some of that money come back out of equities and into fixed investments like bonds, real estate, and other things where they can get some kind of a fixed return or what they believe to be a fixed return over time. Bottom line is this. Don't panic. These are natural, cyclical.

I wish they weren't. I wish we weren't printing money, creating these cycles, but don't panic. Everybody stand firm. I'm not telling you what to do with your money. You want to pull them out of equities, do whatever. I'm not a financial advisor. I'm simply telling you on the economy, it's okay. And if we can get a hold of our debt situation, our government spending situation, I think we'll be in a lot better shape. Okay. Here's my final story. And this is what I was getting to the zero hedge piece. There's a terrific graph at the top. And the data's from 2014. So you may say it's old. Well, the reason it's old is it's the last year from the CBO that we have the entire

data set to look at. But on this fair share argument, there's this fascinating chart, Joe. fascinating chart, Joe. It breaks down income categories into quintiles, right? The upper wealthy 20%, the lowest 20%, and quintiles, five separate categories of income. These are fascinating numbers for all you liberals out there arguing that wealthy people don't pay their fair share. The highest earners in the country, Joe, and this is a measure of how much they received in transfers versus how much they paid in federal taxes. Very simply, how much people gave to the government and how much they got back. Please stop emailing. My gosh, my email is going wild this way. I'm not talking to you. Sorry. There's this group. They're emailing me. It's driving me nuts. It's like the 50th email I've gotten in the middle of the show. It keeps blocking my screen.

email I've gotten in the middle of the show. It keeps blocking my screen. The highest income earners paid $75,100 in federal income tax and got back, Joe, in the form of government transfers $11,700. Big difference. Really? That seems like

a big difference to me. The second number down, so wealthy folks but not as wealthy obviously it's the top group the second uh 20 down from the top paid 18 600 taxes got 14 000 back in transfers now the middle the second and the lowest uh quintiles here of earners is where it gets interesting the middle paid 9 $9,600 in taxes and got back $15,400. $9,000. We haven't used Jay's abacus in a while.

$9,600 in tax payments and they got back $15,400. So you got the wealthy paying $75,000 getting back $11,000 and you got people who are middle income paying $9,600 getting back $15,000. Your fair share, you understand your nonsense? You're immune to facts and data. It gets even better. The second lowest to the bottom paid in $3,800 in taxes, got $17,700 back in transfers.

And the poorest individuals, folks, I'm just trying to tell you a fair share argument is total garbage. The poor, this is where they paid $400 in federal income taxes, got $16,600 back. Excuse me. Folks, hard pass on the nonsense fair share argument, please. Facts and data matter. Read the piece. Look at the chart.

Print it. Give it to your liberal friends and say, how much more of the fair share should be ours exactly because we're already paying all of it thank you have a nice day all right folks thanks again for tuning in please subscribe to the show especially on itunes we're having some issues here i don't know why but go to itunes and your podcast app please subscribe it's free uh you can also subscribe on iheart you can listen up on gino.com and please subscribe to my email list. We will send you the best articles of the day right to your mailbox. Thanks a lot, folks.

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