The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 839 Don’t Fall into the Trap Being Set for You
Episode Date: October 30, 2018Summary: In this episode I address President Trump’s new plan to end a controversial component of our immigration policy. I also address the growing problem of social media and internet censorship a...nd a new plot being hatched by liberals to attack free speech. Finally, I address the embarrassing lies being told about Obamacare in an effort to get liberals elected. News Picks: Sarah Huckabee Sanders unloads on the hapless Jim Acosta. Shots were fired at this GOP office in Florida. Is President Trump planning to end birthright citizenship? The radical Left is doubling down on speech suppression and de-platforming. This prominent Democrat believes a social media company should be charged as accomplices to murder. This Christian news site is under attack by the radical Left. Another liberal fraud exposed in the school choice debate. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today always happy
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Okay, big news this morning.
I've got tons of stuff to get to, including that economic story from yesterday.
But Trump has announced that he is planning, according to an Axios report, it is in the show
notes today. Please read them. I have five or six critical stories you need to read. This is one of
them, that he is planning on issuing an executive order to end birthright citizenship. Thankfully,
this is a really awful policy that creates incentives that are all misaligned with American immigration interests.
Now, this is huge news.
It just came out this morning, I believe, before the election because this is an issue that resonates with Americans.
ladies and gentlemen america is the only country in the world that allows this where if you come to the united states and your child is born here they are given citizenship as a function of being
born in the united states now unlike other uh liberal outlets that are going to give you a
bunch of nonsense and junk i am going to break this down for you according to digestible tidbits
and the points you need the information you need need to argue why birthright citizenship is not, in fact, in the Constitution like liberals are going to argue to you.
Number one, it all centers around the 14th Amendment.
Let me read this to you now.
And you may, after you see this and you hear this, excuse me, Joe, precision matters.
After you hear this, you're going to say, well, Dan, I don't get it. You
just read the 14th Amendment and it says the opposite of what you said. I'm telling you,
birthright citizenship is not in the Constitution. Hang with me. Here's the 14th Amendment, folks.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
yes, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
Now, you may be confused.
I get it.
Don't worry.
As Joe Pesci said, we'll unconfuse you.
I promise.
You may say, Dan, the 14th Amendment clearly says all persons born are naturalized in the United States.
But read the second clause there.
And subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. That second clause matters. Takeaway number one,
the reason Trump stands a very good chance of winning this on executive order.
this on executive order.
Contrary to what the liberals tell you, the case of birthright citizenship for people who are in the country illegally, not resident aliens, not green card holders, Joe, let me
be crystal clear, folks, do not listen to the liberal media if they tell you they are
lying, has never been decided by the Supreme Court.
Never. they are lying has never been decided by the supreme court never it may be if trump
implements this executive order but it has never been decided by the supreme court
now the subject to the jurisdiction thereof portion of this is critical
here and i want to hat tip andy mccarthy on this andy mccarthy wrote
a piece a long time ago i never forgot it says you are a citizen of the united states if
you are born in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction thereof what does that mean
there are two distinctions two distinct components of jurisdiction i know you remember
this joke because this was a brilliant point by mccarthy it's from forgive me i don't even
remember the article it was eons ago but it was a great one who happens to be a very skilled lawyer
there's political jurisdiction and territorial jurisdiction Territorial jurisdiction. It was widely assumed in the writing of the 14th Amendment, believed by many people who've analyzed the history of it,
that the subject to the jurisdiction thereof meant political jurisdiction of the United States.
Okay, what does that mean?
I don't want to lose you because this is going to be a hot issue from now into election day and you need to know what's going on liberals will argue that it meant territorial jurisdiction meaning
if you were born in the territory of the united states and therefore that's what the jurisdiction
meant then you are in fact a citizen you were born here subject to the jurisdiction. That's the simple one.
Simply means born in the United States, citizen.
That's how liberals interpretate the second, interpretate.
Did I just say interpretate?
Yes, you said interpretate.
Interpret.
I'm sorry.
I promise you, I'm feeling great this morning.
I'm not groggy.
I'm making up new words.
That's how liberal, I don't even know what I like.
Usually you combine words.
I don't even know what I was combining interpret with. That's how liberals interpretate the 14th Amendment, meaning territorial jurisdiction, meaning you're born here, you're a citizen.
That is not what the writers of the 14th Amendment intended. What they meant was political
jurisdiction subject to the jurisdiction thereof up meaning folks that two united states
citizens who give birth to a child on portuguese soil
still have an american citizen at birth oh joe how's that how is that they weren't born in the united states territory
the child the boy or the girl was not born there the son was not born it he was born in portugal
how is it that people like was it john mccain who was born in the panama canal zone i believe
how is john mccain or was a u.s citizen god rest the man's soul how was he a U.S. citizen? God rest a man's soul. How was he a U.S. citizen?
Because, ladies and gentlemen, subject to the jurisdiction thereof meant the political jurisdiction of the United States, meaning United States citizens, whether in Alaska,
Montana, Spain, Portugal, Accra, Ghana, or anywhere else, are still, Joe, United States
citizens, subject to the political jurisdiction
thereof there are tax laws that apply to you there are U.S. laws that apply to you it does not matter
that you are overseas you don't get to unless you relinquish your U.S. citizenship then Joe
you are no longer subject to the quote quote, political jurisdiction. If that's what they were talking about, the founders.
There you go.
Now, liberals don't want this case in court because liberals are afraid what I'm telling you is true.
And it is.
That the writers of the 14th Amendment clearly were referring to the political jurisdiction not territorial jurisdiction
and it so the two takeaways here folks this is important
and this article is in axios which is up at bongino.com please read i'm sorry yesterday
some of you had a problem with the email it was a one-time glitch i promise but if you're on my
email list i will email you the best aggregated news articles of the day. The Axios one is pretty
good. It's short and it's sweet. They do a decent job, even though I think they have a left-leaning
bend. They still do a pretty decent job. It gives you the pro and the con. Immigration, and I'll
read to you in a second what some immigration scholars have said on this. The two takeaways,
scholars have said on this.
The two takeaways.
Do not believe the liberal hype.
A case of illegal,
people here illegally who have had a child
has not been decided by the Supreme Court.
It hasn't.
Secondly,
the subject to the jurisdiction thereof
refers to political jurisdiction, not territorial jurisdiction.
If that was the case, how the heck are kids born outside of the United States to two American citizen parents?
How are they citizens?
Fair question, right?
How is it?
The territorial jurisdiction, if it applies, means they were subject to the territorial jurisdiction of Portugal.
Not the United States if the kid's born in Portugal.
Folks, this is a sound, sensible policy.
You should not be able to enter the country illegally
and get the benefits of citizenship for your
offspring if you broke the law while other people are busting their butts waiting on
lines to get here the legal way for, in some cases, decades.
It's not right.
This is an issue I believe Donald Trump is, again, has his finger on the pulse of America with
I believe this will resonate
I believe this was a very
a tactically strategic
but smart move for the United States economy
and the United States immigration process
this is not viewed by people who are here legally, largely as a fair policy.
Let me read to you from the Axios piece, because this is important.
It's going to be all over the news today.
Quote, the legal challenges would force the courts to decide on a constitutional debate
over the 14th Amendment, which I just read to you.
It says in the next bullet here, it says, few immigration and constitutional scholars believe
it is within the president's power to change birthright citizenship. Former U.S. Citizenship
and Immigration Services Counsel Lyndon Memel tells Axios, but some conservatives have argued,
like I said, they get both sides in this. It's up to you to read it that the 14th amendment was only intended to provide citizenship to children born in the u.s to lawful permanent
residents lawful permanent residents green card holders who are under the political jurisdiction
of the united states i'm added that's my that's me ad-libbing that sorry should have been clear
on that the quote continues not to authorize immigrants or those on temporary visas.
Folks, makes all the sense in the world.
Leave it to a liberal to lie to you
and misinterpret what the 14th Amendment says.
Oh, it's already been decided by the Supreme Court.
It has not.
I know nothing.
Nothing.
What the heck is that?
That was Schultz. I know nothing. From where? Hogan's Heroes. Oh the heck is that? That was Schultz.
I know nothing.
From where?
Hogan's Heroes.
Oh, is that right?
Listen, me and Joe were born in different years.
Yeah, I forget that.
Usually I'm pretty good.
The Ren and Stimpy one was strong.
That one I was totally caught off guard.
But yes, with some of your jokes sometimes,
which the audience fills me in on immediately.
Thank you, audience.
I get tons of it.
Yes, thank you.
The how with Elizabeth Warren.
That was a perfect answer.
I did not get that.
I missed that completely.
Yeah.
Folks, the 14th Amendment.
Remember, political jurisdiction, not territorial, and it has not been decided by the Supreme
Court.
This is going to be a hot issue, I suspect, from now to election day,
and it will generate a ferocious response to the left. Because to sum this up,
immigration policy to the left is not about immigration or compassion for immigrants.
Let me be absolutely 100% crystal clear. It is about replacing votes they are losing
from working class Americans.
They are hemorrhaging because liberals have become a party of identity politics and elitism.
They know it. And what they need to do is they need to find voters somewhere else,
whether it's in the minority community, whether it's the further division of America,
interracial gender categories that they can then manipulate. They need to find new voters voters and they think they can do it using almost unrestricted immigration.
This is not about compassion for immigrants.
This policy, if it is a policy change and this executive order comes out,
will be absolutely devastating for the Democrats.
Devastating.
Okay, moving on because I really am stacked up today.
It's devastating.
Okay, moving on, because I really am stacked up today.
Folks, as I've warned you repeatedly, Joe, have I not,
about the social media censorship out there. I cannot say this in strong enough terms.
It is abhorrent.
It is grotesque.
We have to fight back.
But, but, B-U-T, please do not lobby or advocate for the intervention of the United States government in the regulation of these social media companies that are unquestionably, I agree with you, point stipulated, suppressing free speech and conservative thought.
Not just social media companies, by the way, web hosting companies as well.
There is an excellent, excellent article at PJ Media today.
I have up in the show notes for those of you reading along at home.
Please read it.
We are in a very, very dangerous time.
There have been people like a hat tip Tucker Carlson, who has been all over this,
the suppression of free speech with social media and internet companies between deplatforming,
meaning shutting down all avenues for conservative websites. There was a recent attack yesterday on
LifeSite News, whose web hosting company gave them 12 hours to find a new home for their website.
It is a pro-life site. This
is happening everywhere. Folks, I don't go into a lot of the details about what happened to Joe
and I in the program, but I assure you it's happened here as well. Granted, because I don't
want to be hyperbolic and the reason I stay away from the details is there are other people who
are facing it far worse. But I'm not going to lie to you, it's happened to us too, a couple
different ways. Again, I avoid the details because I don't want to make to you. It's happened to us too. A couple different ways.
Again, I avoid the details
because I don't want to make the show about me.
I want to keep it about the issue.
Great article in PJ Media
describing what the left's plan is.
Ladies and gentlemen,
for those of you clamoring,
let's set up the problem
and set up the proposed solution
and let me debunk the proposed solution
so it makes sense.
So we'll put the lead up front, okay?
The problem here, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, web hosting companies, they are working whether
it's in tandem or an ideological tandem, meaning although they may not be conspiring directly
with one another, hey, let's do this, let's do that, let's get rid of this guy, let's
get rid of this guy let's get rid of that guy although they may not be directly conspiring joe they are all
liberal leaning companies that have unquestionably unquestionably targeted and de-platformed voices
out there who are i'm not going to say conservative because some of them aren't they're just not
liberal right now joe some of these voices are people who are
obviously deeply disturbed and and and troubled some of them some of them are just people who
don't agree with liberals no one's going to argue that a white supremacist advocating for nazism on
twitter is a disgusting human filth of the worst kind the The problem, folks, is when you start to equate that
with ideological differences, like some are trying to do, you have a real issue. I'm going to get to
that in a second. So the problem is these companies are canceling their accounts. They're kicking
people off Facebook and Twitter. They're taking them on demonetizing videos on YouTube. They're
taking down web hosting. The second problem, there are actually
some conservatives out there, even shockingly, some libertarians who I've seen or questionable
libertarians who are advocating for the government to get involved here and to somehow regulate these
social media companies. Folks, this this is exactly exactly what the left wants
i i did a show a few months ago where i told you about democrat senator mark warner how he wanted
this like internet kind of bill of rights built into the law this he's a democrat senator folks
there's a reason he wants government intervention.
I'm going to explain to you the reason now in light of this new piece.
So PJ Media has a piece about the Southern Poverty Law Center,
a group that was involved themselves,
was involved themselves as a motivational factor of a domestic terrorist, Floyd Corkins,
who shot up the Family Research Council.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a discredited, debunked group that attacks conservatives
constantly that was just sued successfully for over $3 million in a defamation case.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, sensing an opportunity, Joe, with this synagogue attack and this guy
who was sending the suspicious packages to CNN and others.
I'm not mentioning his name.
Sorry.
He doesn't deserve it.
He will be the guy.
You can look up his name yourself.
That doesn't get any notoriety from me.
The suspicious package guy in the synagogue shooting the left ladies and gentlemen never
lets a crisis go to waste to quote quote want Rahm Emanuel ever they sense an opportunity
ladies and gentlemen google fox news fox news controversy there's no controversy I'm just
telling you gooly because the left senses an opportunity to go after Fox and everyone else.
Don't you find it a little odd after these incidents, the left goes after LifeSite News, a pro-LifeSite.
There's tons of articles over the last few days just put up about Fox and the Fox controversy.
They're made up, they're fake controversies. Nobody's writing articles about CNN,
despite the fact that they had a lady on CNN
on Jake Tapper's show,
who usually shuts this kind of stuff down, by the way,
on Tapper's show,
who said that Trump has radicalized more people than ISIS.
Nobody's threatening to boycott CNN,
although I think we should.
But the articles about Fox, the left is all over.
They know when a crisis is about to hit and they move in to suppress free speech.
At Southern Poverty Law Center, Joe, if you read the piece, it's now leading an effort to quote,
their new effort is change the terms.
Oh, what did I tell you?
What did I tell you was going to happen?
Predicted again two, three months months ago i wish i was wrong
change the terms meaning what they want websites like twitter web hosting companies
social media companies youtube facebook snapchat others they want them to change their terms in
other words they're you know when you know joe when you sign up for twitter right you have to click the i agree to these terms and conditions
yeah they want them to change the terms to quote joe reduce hateful activities on their platform
oh wow yeah that sounds great everybody wants that joe oh yes don't we joe who doesn't want
hate who doesn't want hateful activities removed from their platform?
I want peace and love. We all do. We all do, buddy. Thank you, brother. We all want to sit
around, sing campfire songs, make our s'mores. We all want to do that. Yeah. Sit there and reminisce
about the halcyon days. We all want to do that. Oh, yeah. The problem, folks, is how they define hateful activities.
Yes.
They want to set up...
Gosh, I wish I was wrong on this.
And people and suckers are falling for this.
They want to set up, Joe, a flagger program.
Flagger, like American flag, a flagger program.
Where outside groups show that are independent, independent.
Outside groups can flag what they determine to be hateful content.
Hint, conservative content.
Hateful content.
Flag, and it can be immediately taken down.
content, hateful content, flag, and it can be immediately taken down.
Now, there's nothing the left would love more after they change the terms to get the government involved, to change the Communications Decency Act, to get this written into federal law.
That's the next step so that they can't be sued because they'll be basing it on a federal
law.
Let me read to you from the PJ Media piece.
I told you this was coming and people are falling down this black hole of stupidity no no the
government's gonna help us here yeah yes joe like they've helped you ah hold on let me think wait
uh just 10 27 uh eastern time that we only have 30 minutes i'm sorry i have to wrap this up because
none of joe's thinking too.
We can't think of anywhere
the government's actually helped you, okay?
The government,
they're going to help.
They're going to rescue us.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's going to happen.
From the PJ Media piece.
The difficulty comes, however,
in the application of these terms.
Quote,
change the terms
calls on tech companies
to, quote, allow for individuals and organizations.
Oh, who are those individuals and organizations going to be?
Oh, but not government actors.
They're clear on this
because once they get their foot in the door,
believe me, the government's the next step.
Trust me on this one.
Please trust me.
To quote, flag hateful activities
as well as flag groups and individuals
engaged in hateful activities and to create a trusted flagger program for vet this is hysterical
for vetted well-established civil and human rights organizations to expedite review of potential
hateful activities who are these groups going to be? Oh, people like the
Southern Poverty Law Center, who are a political, they attack political opponents. An organization
that has been sued successfully for millions of dollars by people who are disingenuously labeled
hate groups. An organization that was cited by a guy who walked into the
Family Research Council and shot the place up because they were on their, quote, hate list.
Folks, do you see what's coming?
I am humbly and respectfully begging you not to fall down this sucker's trap.
You may say, well, Dan,
what if these companies that are,
you're arguing they're private,
they can do what they want,
so can't they just do,
and some of these companies, by the way,
we saw with Amazon,
have already used the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Again, a liberal group committed to liberal ideology.
They have nothing to do with hate groups.
They used to back in the day.
They are now a political organization
aiming to take down political opponents.
You may say, well, then how do we fight back?
Because if you're saying the government
shouldn't get involved,
what's to stop these companies
from just changing the terms then
and bringing in the Southern Poverty Law Center?
Ladies and gentlemen,
stop selling yourselves short. We are 40 to 45,
maybe upwards of 48% of the population, conservatives, Republicans, libertarians,
moderate Democrats, and free thinkers. How long? You know, I get it. I get in the, in the, in the temporary, in the short term,
right?
We all want instant gratification.
We do.
We all want,
they gotta be punished.
Twitter,
Twitter screwed us.
Twitter's they,
they still,
we still can't run ads on Twitter.
They won't tell us why we just can't.
And the reason is because we're conservative
folks.
We can fight back. There will be a market alternative people are going only going to take this for so long this happened
with the mainstream media now the mainstream media is going bankrupt the washington post all
of these outlets who are having issues drawing steady income streams, these old legacy media outlets are dying a slow death and are withering on the vine.
Because what happened?
Alternatives popped up.
We had Fox News that popped up.
We had Breitbart, Conservative Review, other outlets that said, you know what?
We're going to give you the real news.
And we're going to give you real opinion.
We're not going to give you this fake propaganda nonsense, but this stuff takes time. I'm sorry.
I can't give you instant gratification. Other shows might try. We got to get them. We got to
get them now. It will happen. A conservative economy, just like the conservative media outlet
is going, a conservative media outlets is going to emerge out of this.
There are going to be companies.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's already happening.
I already used this example.
I listen to Sirius XM in the car often.
I'll put on Fox News 114.
I'll listen.
There are commercials for it.
He's not even a sponsor.
Is it Patriot Software or something?
Their whole MO is to advertise to Patriots. Now, listen, there are commercials for it. He's not even a sponsor. Is it Patriot Software or something?
A Patriot, their whole MO is to advertise to Patriots.
That's their thing.
You're going to see this. Web hosting company is going to say, you under threat of attack from liberal outlets that want to de-platform LifeSite News and others?
Come over by us.
You're safe here.
You're seeing it now.
Free speech platforms developing everywhere.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
You're going to see eventually alternatives to Twitter.
Everybody thought MySpace.
Oh, MySpace.
Oh, my gosh.
Remember MySpace?
This was it.
It was a juggernaut in the social media information sharing space. MySpace is dead now. Dead. Alternatives always develop when there's a need. Let me just leave you with this point because I really do have a lot to get to and I'm sorry. I didn't even mean to spend this much time on this.
Sorry, I didn't even mean to spend this much time on this.
When I was an instructor in the Secret Service Academy, I was a coordinator for a class.
And we were lucky enough at the time to have a guy in there who knew people.
And he got Roger Ailes down.
Roger Ailes, who has since departed, God rest his soul.
Roger Ailes, formerly of Fox News Corporation.
And he came down and gave an interesting speech at the graduation ceremony.
This was years ago.
Gosh, I can't even, well over, probably a decade ago.
We were sitting there and he said,
when the idea for Fox News came about, Joe, I remember the speech like it was yesterday,
that he sat in the room and someone said to him,
like, well, who are we marketing to?
And his answer was kind of
funny. He's like, marketing to? He's like, what do you mean marketing to? The market's already
there. There's 40, 45% of America that have no alternative for news, for real news. The market's
there. Who are we marketing to? 40% of America. Folks, can you imagine a product? Think of a
product that appeals to 40%. It's hard.
Corvettes don't. 40% of America don't want a Corvette. I don't even want one. I had one.
No, they're nice cars, but I don't want one. Coca-Cola, McDonald's. If you had a market,
think about it, Joe, a product that appealed to 40%. You're talking about over 100 million people.
You'd be like, wait, and nobody's doing it?
Let me get this straight.
There's a hole in the market for 140 million customers,
and Al said he laughed.
He was like, yes, there's no alternative news source
for people looking for real news.
How about we start Fox?
Okay.
He was stunned nobody thought of it sooner.
The same thing's happening now.
Twitter and Facebook, YouTube and others have come to rely on the fact that, oh, yeah, yeah,
there's not going to be any competition.
We have these crowd effects.
The mainstream media said the same thing.
Oh, no, these people have grown up with Walter Cronkite and Peter Jennings.
And Tom Brokaw and my generation.
They're not going to leave us.
Ah, they did.
Quickly.
Goodbye.
No, they did.
And the same thing is going to happen.
But when you're doing what your political opponents want you to do, in this case,
introducing the government into regulating this through terms and condition changes and independent monitors that can report to the government
on flagging hate speech. They will only flag conservative content and they will have the
government's protection against lawsuits. This is a huge catastrophic error in judgment.
Remember this episode, 839, because if it happens in 10 years,
I want you to go back and listen and go, damn, I wish we would have listened to him.
It is a bad idea. The left is in a full-blown war on free speech, full-blown war on free speech,
attacking Fox, their sponsors, web posters for pro-life sites,
social media accounts, Facebook accounts.
The left is all in on police state weaponization.
They are all in on speech suppression.
They are all in, folks, on aggressive confrontation.
All in.
Do not allow them the monopoly power of the force of government.
Do not let these social media companies,
let them bury themselves in a history of awful business decisions,
discriminating against 40% of Americans,
who I'm telling you will find an alternative.
We always have.
Don't sell yourself short.
Okay.
Sorry, but I'm very passionate about this.
And I just can't believe how many people who claim to be small government keep falling into this trap looking for government protection against what the government wants.
They're looking for...
Don't...
All right, enough.
I made my point.
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In what's become an ongoing, horrendous, bad joke,
and this is going to be a heavy news day, folks.
I'm sorry, but I got a lot to get to here.
The Democrats are, in an act of political hubris I have not seen in my lifetime,
amazingly are running on this legislative storm, this dumpster fire of legislation, this apocalyptic, cataclysmic joke of a piece of legislation, Obamacare.
Democrats are actually running on this.
And astonishing, I don't get this.
Folks, I genuinely don't get this.
There are some, the polls are starting to turn in this disaster's favor.
I don't get it.
I don't get it at all.
This thing is a total dumpster fire.
Your premiums right now on Obamacare, I don't know what, I've done a thousand shows on this,
but your premiums are what they are and your access is shrinking precisely because of what
Obamacare did.
This is a legislative cataclysm.
It instituted two things, two things that cannot work because it requires the ignoring
of the laws of physics and arithmetic to happen.
Obamacare instituted community rating and guaranteed issue.
Community rating is the price controls by the government.
Guaranteed issue means they have to issue insurance at any time.
Here's an analogy of what Obamacare is.
This is all you need to know about why Obamacare doesn't work and why your premiums are high.
Community rating means they have to charge people a government prescribed formula despite what those people's health care costs
actually are now that the democrats are running on this economic stupidity is bizarre joe if your
health care costs god forbid you're sick or a hundred thousand dollars a year do those health
care costs go away because i gave a fancy campaign speech no no they don't someone's gotta pay them somebody pays them either joe
or me the taxpayers somebody pays those costs
community rating in obamacare says that people who cost more to ensure notably people who are
older and just because of the chronological effects of time, me included, even at 43, people who are older tend to be sicker and have more ailments.
This is not a controversial point.
It's a statistical fact.
Obamacare said you cannot charge people who are older or sicker more than you charge people who are younger and healthier.
people who are younger and healthier.
Therefore, Joe, since I just told you based on pure economic common sense that if your medical costs don't disappear, what happens to people who are older and sicker?
Their costs are covered by people who are younger and healthier because the costs don't
go anywhere.
Now you may say, well, that sounds fair.
Well, does it?
You know, let's talk about a little bit of tough love here, folks.
Who's in a better economic position, Joe, you or your son?
Me.
Me.
You.
Yes.
Who do you think's in a better economic position, me or my 15-year-old daughter?
Not a trick.
You.
You, I would be.
Yes, that's correct.
Folks, the younger generation are our kids they're not space aliens they're not x-men they're not like uh you know from from from
from jupiter they're not you know they don't exist on the rings of saturn these are our kids
we're basically saying because the costs go nowhere that us who have an established history of work and savings
that we shouldn't pay our medical bills that our kids should pay our medical bills for us
while we reimburse our kids for paying our medical bills because now they're living at
home because they can't afford the rent this but the liberals this makes sense do you understand
that's what community rating is it rates plans according to a government formula,
not according to the cost of people's actual healthcare,
which simply means your kids are paying your bills.
Simple as that.
Making it even worse, it instituted guaranteed issue.
Meaning now, say your kids can't afford, which they can't, many can't.
People have been kicked off insurance plans, their premiums are up.
A lot of people cannot afford Obamacare in the independent health market.
The people are not insured by the employer or the government.
These are people in the independent market, right?
Mm-hmm.
A lot of those people have chosen to pay the tax penalty instead, but now the
individual mandate is gone. So a lot of that's washed away. So what's happening? These younger
folks don't have the money, so they're not paying. Oh, but guaranteed issue, another absolutely
economically illiterate, stupid legislative disaster built into obamacare
says joe that oh you can get insurance at any time oh so what happens these kids wait these
younger folks they wait till they get into a car accident god forbid then all of a sudden they call
but hey i need insurance and the insurance companies have to give them insurance meaning
now they've not paid any premiums
and who's paying the insurance bills?
You are.
They don't go anywhere.
There's no money fairy.
There's no easy answers here.
There's no campaign speech that makes those costs go away.
Those medical costs are real and they are happening.
So community rating is price controlled.
Guaranteed issue means when you don't want to pay those
prices you can just wait till you go to the hospital and lickety split you're going to get
insurance paid for by you the democrats are running on this why do i bring this up now not
to rehash an old obamacare episode but folks there are ballot measures on the state in four states. Another component of
Obamacare to make this doubly disastrous was the expansion of Medicaid, ironically, to people
who are young, single, without kids, and are capable of working.
30 states have expanded Medicaid under Obamacare.
Four states, it's on the ballot coming up.
If you see this ballot measure, vote no.
No, vote capital N-O, no.
Nebraska, Utah, Idaho, Montana, you're up.
Why should you vote no on this?
The Medicaid expansion is a scam.
It is a way to get more people on the government dole to get other people who work to pay for their insurance.
The great irony of this, as pointed out in a Wall Street Journal piece today,
brilliantly, I might add,
it extends government-provided healthcare,
in other words, you, you're paying for it,
to prime-age adults without children
who are above the poverty line.
Matter of fact, up to 138% of the poverty line.
Ironically, the federal government says,
don't worry, states, we'll pay 90% of the bill,
as if the federal government show
gets its money from a bunch of martians it gets its money from you it doesn't matter where it
comes from all right here's the kicker again as pointed out in this journal piece there's a very
good one it guarantees which is a false guarantee but roll with it for a minute, that the federal government will pay 90% of the Medicaid bills when you expand it to these prime age working adults without kids.
But Joe, you know what's interesting about this?
for pregnant women and kids who could actually use some government intervention, kids without parents, kids who were poor, where the United States government probably has a legitimate
interest.
So let me get this straight.
You're a working adult man, prime age, and we are supposed to pay our tax dollars a greater
percentage of your health care than you would actually pay for poor pregnant women and kids who can actually use it. That's Obamacare. That actually happened.
This Medicaid expansion has been a disaster. It is a third-party payer problem. It is a
government-sponsored health care program which takes the incentive for the doctor and the patient to keep costs and quality
high because you're not
paying. Therefore,
you don't care about the costs, and if you're the
doctor, you don't care about the quality either
because your patient isn't paying. The government is.
The Medicare expansion
where Montana, they're voting
on reauthorizing it in Montana, just
to be clear. That's why it's on the ballot, Joe.
Was over budget by 70%.
Utah is suggesting a tax hike to pay for this.
These are Republican states.
Vote this down in massive numbers.
I want this thing to fail 99 to 1.
It is economically impossible to keep this program
going. And it defeats the purpose of the United States and liberal policies, what they say are
being compassionate. It actually takes money away from government programs that are, and believe me,
I'm not suggesting these programs work well either. I'm just suggesting the irony of these programs are they take away money and funds from, say,
pregnant women and kids who the government could help out, and it gives it to prime-age
working adults above the poverty line.
How does that make any sense?
The answer is it makes sense in liberal bizarro land, where nothing makes sense.
Speaking of things not making sense,
Joe, you have that cut of Hillary?
Yes, sir.
I'm really fired up about liberals today.
I got this Obamacare story,
the Bob Hugin Senate race,
the school choice story,
and Hillary.
Joe, this is an act.
Joe, do you not mess with this, right?
This is an actual poll.
This is when Hillary actually said said this didn't touch it hillary was talking just the other day at a forum the one where she said she would consider being president made one of the
most i mean i can't believe she actually said this and she claims to be some identity politics
warrior remember yesterday showing the black community how you're welcome here here's here's a joke hillary clinton made about black men this is
this is not i'm not messing with you folks she actually said this that if this were said by
anyone else you would never ever be permitted into the polite public space again play that cut
what do you think of cory bookers and you didn't comment on him and you feel free oh i i adore what
do you think about him saying kick them in the shins, essentially?
Start to get to that kind of political.
Well, that was Eric Holder.
Eric Holder.
Oh, Eric Holder.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I know they all look alike.
No, they don't.
Oh, well done.
This is where we need the video, Joe.
What?
Joe sent that to me this morning.
I had seen it last night.
I was going to send it to him, but he beat me to the punch.
So all black men look like they do?
Really?
Because Cory Booker looks nothing like Eric Holder.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Matter of fact, it's not
even close. Cory Booker's
bald. Eric Holder has a mustache.
They look nothing alike. Matter of
fact, if you were to shave Eric
Holder's head and his mustache, he still doesn't look like
Cory Booker.
I mean, what kind of joke?
That's funny. All black
men look alike? No, they...
Why are we...
You understand how...
We're all dumber for talking about this.
That was Hillary Clinton.
And it got a well done.
Oh, well done.
They applaud.
It's hysterical.
They think it's funny as hell.
Go.
Listen to me.
Listen to me well.
Listen to me good.
Or as my grandmother say,
you listen here,
my grandmother used to say,
my grandmother,
when she was mad,
she had that Irish temper.
I love her to death.
God rest her soul.
She said,
I'll kill you dead.
If you don't,
you listen here.
She never meant that.
She had the biggest heart ever.
If you were to say that on the air at Joe's radio station or at a conservative,
they'd hang up on you immediately.
Matter of fact, no, they wouldn't
because Joe would dump it.
Dump it, yeah.
Joe's, what is it, a 30-second delay?
You would dump that.
Yeah, it's cool.
And you would hang up on him
and you'd say, that guy was a moron
and they would get off the phone.
If you were to say that at a conservative rally,
they'd shut the mic off on you.
But when you say it at a liberal rally,
the lady says, oh, well done,
and the crowd applauds.
Again, black voters,
yesterday you were props.
If you listen to the show we did yesterday, Al Sharpton thinks you're props in a photo op.
Today, you all look alike.
You don't, obviously.
All look alike.
You are not props.
You are not a photo op.
You are God's children, every one of you, with an independent,
free-thinking soul and big R God-given rights. You are not a prop. You are not a photo op.
And no, you don't all look alike. Gosh, this stupid is so strong.
How are you a liberal? How are you a liberal?
How are you a liberal anymore?
Really, when they're not pumping
economically illiterate, stupid,
irrational programs like Obamacare
and lying to America,
oh, Obamacare is so great.
Look at this.
It cannot work.
Then they're saying black people are props,
photo ops, and they all look alike.
I have this other story in the show notes today
about a opponent of school choice.
She led a group, Joe, called Save Our Schools.
She fights against school choice for minority kids and others who are in crappy schools.
Make no mistake, she doesn't want your kids out of crappy schools.
She wants to make sure they lock the doors behind your kids.
Her name is Sharon Kirsch.
She leads a group in Arizona against
school choice called, ironically, Save Our Schools,
which should be called
Destroy Our Schools.
She's against school choice.
Joe, where do you think she sends her kids?
Private school.
A charter school! Yes!
Woohoo!
The story's in the show notes.
Send this out.
You know the school choice they have.
It's a sensitive issue to me because I...
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
A de facto school choice saved my entire life.
St. Pancras Catholic School, which has since now closed, sadly, taking us on when we were
kids.
Sometimes my mom paid.
Sometimes she didn't.
But allowing us to stay saved my butt.
The public schools by me ps68
and queens were disastrous yet that opportunity doesn't exist for black minority students and
white students in poor school districts and others everyone else it's not just biracial
category anyone in a poor school district because liberals want to keep you out out of good schools
they want to keep you in their failure factory so they can get teacher union money,
so they can lobby Democrats for pensions and higher salaries.
Period. Full stop. Thank you.
While Joe, Sharon, Kersh, and Save Our Schools,
fighting against school choice, sends her kid to a charter school.
By the way, interesting little tidbit in this.
Chicago school teachers, 39% of them send their kids to private school.
Some of the same teachers union, I'm not blaming teachers, you're all a grant. I'm talking about
your union interest. Chicago teachers unit advocates against school choice. Nearly 40%
of their own teachers send their kids to private school. But yeah, don't worry about the rest of us.
You know, Jason Riley statistic.
There are 20,000 public high schools in the country.
Just 2,000.
Jason Riley from the Wall Street Journal.
Just 2,000 of those 20,000 public high schools are responsible for half the dropouts.
If you're black, you have a 50% chance of sending your kid to one of those failure factory dropout schools.
You know damn well listening that if that was an epidemic in white suburban America
there would be, it would be storming
the damn state houses in every state.
But the fact that it's
black America, the Democrats don't
give a rat's ass.
They couldn't care any less
that you have a 50% shot
if your skin is black of sending your
kid to a failure factory school.
They don't care.
Not one bit.
Liberals.
Disgusting.
I mean, it's just horrible, the environment we live in right now.
Just gross.
Between their media manipulation, their war on free speech,
their open borders, their police state tyranny, their endorsement of government spying on their
political opponents, their failure to enact any kind of a healthcare reform that makes even
remotely economic sense, their war against education for poor kids. It's just disgusting.
It's just gross.
All right, one more quick story before I get to the economic story.
I've been teasing now since yesterday
because it's a good one
and it's an important one.
More liberal stupidity.
So there's this race going on in New Jersey
for a U.S. Senate seat
between Bob Hugin
and the just morally inept Robert Menendez.
Just a horrible human being. Bob Menendez, just a horrible human being.
Bob Menendez, Democrat senator, the corruption charges against this guy, if you read them,
were disgusting.
Prostitution, underage prostitution.
They're just gross.
You can read them yourself.
Read the charges.
Menendez, it was sanctioned by the Senate.
It's just a disaster
now what's ironic about this is pointed out in the wall street journal again today and what i
thought was a very good piece they said you know what was interesting joe in that roy moore race
in alabama where there were those charges against roy moore all of these outlets were saying oh you
know republicans do the right thing you You can't vote in Roy Moore.
You got to vote for Doug Jones, who is a dyed-in-the-wool liberal.
In Alabama, you got to vote.
You got to do the right thing.
We don't like this Roy Moore guy.
And Republicans, you know, it turned out, but they didn't vote him in.
Doug Jones won in a largely Republican state.
As I've always told you, expect no reciprocity,
even if you accept the charges against Moore.
Expect absolutely no reciprocity from the left.
You now have a gun.
Those were charges, by the way.
There was no court proceeding.
These are documented legal charges against Menendez,
who they didn't win the case against,
but they didn't retry.
He was not found not guilty.
It was like a hung jury or whatever it was.
The Menendez case, there are newspapers in New Jersey endorsing Menendez.
One of them endorses Menendez and the headline reads, and I quote, choke it down and vote
for Menendez. Maybe the worst titled headline quote choke it down and vote for Menendez maybe
the worst titled headline in the history of endorse yeah I know I that isn't that gross
yeah I told you expect no reciprocity from the left on civility or principles at all
none when we didn't blame Bernie Sanders and rightly so, for the rampage on the Alexandria
baseball field against Republicans, I said to you at the time, expect no reciprocity whatsoever
from the left because they're not principled. Expect none in this case. In other words,
there are no Democrats saying, hey, listen, sometimes we got to clean up our own mess.
This guy Menendez is bad news. Vote for Hugen. We'll fight the fight
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Folks, there's this big conundrum going on right now in the economics field, and it's basically summed up this way.
How the hell are interest rates and inflation so low,
given that we printed the snot out of money and we're in all this debt? In other words,
when you print a lot of money, governments, which we have been doing vis-a-vis quantitative easing and other programs like that, when you print all this money, you get inflation. It's very simple. Why?
If an economy has $100 chasing 100 widgets and whoever's running that economy prints another
$100, you now have $200 chasing 100 widgets. And what happens? Every widget can fetch an extra
dollar more because there's $200 in circulation. You get that, Joe? It's not hard, right?
No. It's a simplistic view of inflation, granted, but in the essence of time, we have printed a boatload of money and
created new money electronically and otherwise through quantitative easing and other measures.
The federal government, through Federal Reserve notes, the issuance of Federal Reserve notes,
and through the Federal Reserve itself, which is, I'm going to say, a quasi-federal government
agency, even though they claim to be independent, they're not, has printed a boatload of money.
The mystery amongst economists out there has been, how the heck are interest rates still so low and
not through the roof? Because one of the ways to combat inflation and what happens typically when
you get massive amounts of money in circulation
is interest rates go up. When they print the money, they can suppress interest rates. But
eventually what winds up happening is it gets harder and harder to attract money into the
United States because of the decreasing value of that dollar. So they have to pay higher returns
eventually. So they pay those higher returns in the form of interest rates. In other words,
you give us money, we won't give you 5%. We'll have to give you 10%. And then as
the money becomes worth less and less and less, it's like, well, now we'll give you 15%. One of
the great mysteries has been how the hell are interest rates still so damn low, given that
we've printed record amounts of money? Not only that, how has inflation been so tamed?
It's starting to pick up a little bit.
But there's a theory I put out on this show before that's a fascinating one.
And I just want to put it out there now because this is starting to creep up again as the economy heats up a little bit.
And everybody's afraid of this inflation that they think is going to happen.
By the way, I think there is a good chance it may happen.
But one of them, Joe, is that prices are still low.
That's what inflation is, right?
Remember I used the example of $200 printed rather than $100 and you have $2 now chasing
every one widget instead of $1.
Well, one of the theories here is that productivity is so high through enhancements in technology,
Joe, that we are producing so many more widgets than we would ordinarily that it's keeping
the prices low despite the fact that we're creating all this new money.
In other words, scenario number one, we had $100 and 100 widgets.
Every widget fetches a dollar.
We print 100 extra dollars.
Every widget now can fetch $2.
Price goes up.
But what if we built 100 more widgets?
Now you have 200 widgets and $200,
which keeps the price the same as it was with $100 and 100 widgets, right?
Every widget fetches a dollar.
I get it.
It's simplistic, but it's still relevant.
Sometimes simple is better.
Remember Pet Sematary?
Sometimes dead is better.
Sometimes simple is better.
Occam's razor, right?
One of the theories out there, Joe,
is with this sharing economy, Uber, Airbnb,
massive technology interchanges and companies that are figuring out quicker and
better ways to do things at lightning speed, that we're producing so much stuff and sharing
so many existing capital resources we have now, that prices are going to stay low for a long time
because we're just producing so much extra stuff that's not showing up in regular GDP counts.
In other words, you have all of these people saving a fortune on taxi and livery services
that are now, Joe, just paying for Uber.
I'm not knocking taxi service.
I'm just saying that Uber is a lot cheaper in many respects.
And the capital requires no extra investment.
So no one has to borrow money at an interest rate.
Why?
Joe already has his car.
It was just an unused...
Joe, what is your car doing right now?
It's sitting around waiting for me to get in.
It's sitting in the driveway doing nothing.
If little Joe says,
Dad, can I borrow your car?
I want an Uber for four or five hours.
It doesn't hurt Joe at all
he doesn't need to buy a new car he doesn't need to borrow money and all the people little Joe
drives around in the uber save potentially hundreds of dollars on what they would have
paid on a fancy livery car service so there's no competition for money because Joe doesn't
need to borrow money he doesn't need to pay money. He doesn't need to pay an injury.
He already has the car.
It was just doing nothing.
And secondly, inflation may be tamed because there's this enhanced productivity from things
like Uber and other things out there that are suppressing prices.
Because again, I'm not, please don't email me.
I'm not knocking your business.
I use livery services myself because I really like them and the drivers are really cool.
But they tend to be more expensive.
Prices are being driven down for transportation despite massive printing of money because
of things like Uber and Lyft.
It makes perfect sense.
Just think. it makes perfect sense just think just think
how much hotter
and how much more valuable
the salary you have now would be
if we could just get a hold of the printing of money
in the massive debt
let me do a quick thought experiment
Joe and we'll wrap this up
just imagine you're on that island with $100 and they print no extra money Let me do a quick thought experiment, Joe, and we'll wrap this up. All right.
Just imagine you're on that island with $100 and they print no extra money because they don't have to take on any extra debt.
And instead of 100 widgets, every widget fetches a dollar or can.
The economy is so productive. You have Uber, Airbnb, a sharing economy, technology growing so fast that they produce 500 widgets.
Now, think about it. Instead of them having to charge more for the widgets at $100,
they charge less because every widget now can only fetch a fraction of the dollar it used to
fetch in the past, meaning what? The price goes
down. Your money goes so instead of buying one widget, you can now buy three or four. Great.
With the same money. Yeah. Just think of how much richer we would all be at our 50 to 75 to
$100,000 salaries. If in this exploding economy, all of these new widgets and technologies
in the sharing economy and wasted resources, Joe's car sitting in the driveway that are now
being utilized, think of how much cheaper everything would be if we could just get out
of the catastrophic debt situation we're in, which requires us to print boatloads of money,
which keeps prices elevated or even stable when they would be going down.
Really a shame.
Shame.
But thank God it's happening or we'd all be broke.
I just want to get to that.
It's important.
There's a piece in the Wall Street Journal about it yesterday.
All right.
Tomorrow, I'm going to get to some more socialism stuff too.
Interesting survey I saw out there.
And it's fascinating.
Don't miss tomorrow's show.
It's another piece in the journal today that has some polls on college campuses
that are going to blow your mind
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