The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 854 The Democrats Are Inventing Scandals
Episode Date: November 20, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the explosive claims being made by Democrats regarding the midterm elections. I also address the fake scandal regarding Ivanka Trump’s email and the federal judge�...��s ruling on Trump’s asylum order. Finally, I discuss some positive news about the economy.  News Picks: An Obama-appointed federal judge has blocked President Trump’s immigration asylum order.  The Democrats are undermining our democracy by making false claims about election fraud in Georgia.  Yes, we can economically grow out of our fiscal problems. Here’s the evidence.  The Democrats, all of a sudden, are concerned about private email use because Ivanka Trump used private email.  It’s becoming clear that the FBI failed to appropriately vet Chris Steele’s information.  Senior FBI personnel used unsecure devices for sensitive data.  Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today
man i'm always glad to be here you know that little inside joe yeah man you good man yeah man
i'm really good man i can't I dropped the ball dude
I can't folks
I'm sorry
I can't
I can't
it's got to stay
between you
but one of these days
I'll come out with it
when the statute of limitations
wears out
yeah man
I'm good man
y'all ready man
some of you
some of you
may get it
some of you
you have to be
real followers
of Dan Bongino to get it.
When the statute of limitations wears out, I promise I'll talk to you about it.
All right.
I got a really, really busy news show today.
A lot happened.
Listen, Stacey Abrams in Georgia, you lost.
It stinks.
You lost.
I lost the race for Congress by nearly the exact same margin she lost the governor's race in Georgia.
I get it.
It sucks.
You ran a good spirited race.
We don't agree with nearly anything you say.
Confiscating AR-15s in Georgia is probably not a good platform to run on.
You ran a good race.
You lost.
Move on.
My gosh.
It's over.
So I want to get into this today because what's going on in georgia
oh again is not about georgia i don't talk about things on the show that are isolated to one
particular region i talk about the national stuff because that's what you guys and ladies are
concerned about what's happening right now in georgia and the sour grapes with the democrat
who lost handily by the way she didn't lose by like 50 votes or like George W. won Florida by 537 against Gore.
She lost by about one, one and a half points.
Again, the same margin I lost for Congress.
It stinks, but you can see it and you move on.
You lost, but that's not good enough for them
because they're looking to stir up racial animus
because they think Georgia could be a potential swing state
for them in 2020.
But I'm going to knock all that down and I want to get into some other stuff too.
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life insurance super simple all right so here's what's really going on in georgia so stacy abrams
obviously the democrat loses to brian kemp and now uh in one of the most unbelievably ungracious
embarrassing episodes i've seen in politics in modern times and i don't speak with forked tongue
i can't say this enough i lost the
race by a sliver i knew joe when it happened i moved on it stinks but you move on you concede
you wish the guy or the woman the best of luck and you go and you give it the old college try
the next time abrams refuses to do this she gave a concession speech where she said i'm not basically
i'm not conceding that this is not a concession but that she refuses to acknowledge that brian kemp is the uh is the uh
she says he's the legal governor of georgia but that's not the she won't acknowledge he's the
legitimate governor of georgia why why is this happening folks how many times do i have to say
this on this show and i hope you you all just really tattoo this onto your upper gray matter in your brain.
The Democrats never do anything by mistake.
They have sensed the ability, again, using your fast charge.
They have sensed the ability in Georgia to move in in a state that has a large minority population
to use it as a wedge issue in 2020 to try to knock georgia into the swing state column for
the presidential election stacy abrams knows full well that what she's saying about brian kemp and
this being a stolen election in georgia she knows full well she's not dumb. She knows full well these are specious, nonsensical,
farcical allegations. They are totally, completely untrue. I want to knock them down for you in the
next, say, five minutes. I'm going to spend too long in this segment. One by one, because,
not because this is about Georgia, because Georgia is going to become a 2020 issue about
voter suppression, made up fake charges of voter
suppression in 2020 in states with large minority populations where they think they have a chance to
beat trump so let's get right to it number one they say well brian kemp the secretary of state
who is now the governor-elect of georgia he purged a bunch of people from the voter rolls oh my gosh
what did he do purge them from the like that. Oh, my gosh. What did he do?
Purge them from the movie The Purge?
When they show up at people's house, you're off the voter rolls wearing masks like in that movie The Purge.
What do you mean he purged people from the voter rolls?
Well, when you do a little homework, which liberals listening to the show, I understand you don't want to do homework.
I get this.
I get that homework's disturbing to you because homework uncovers what? Facts and
data. And I understand, liberals, you are entirely immune to facts and data. I get it that there's
nothing we can say to crack through your 65-foot thick skulls. It's like you'd have to proton beam
facts and data through that. I get that we can't do it. But for the people listening who are
reasonable and who talk to liberals,
that may be somewhat persuadable in the future.
The law,
the law that Brian Kemp and the state of Georgia used to clean up their voter
rolls was a law.
Joe signed into law by who?
Oh,
Zell Miller. Zell Miller. Who was Zell Miller? Oh, he was a, wait, who? Oh, Zell Miller.
Zell Miller.
Who was Zell Miller?
Oh, he was a Democrat.
Governor in Georgia.
Oh, crazy how that happens, isn't it?
Yeah.
And it was signed into law, Joe, by what?
By what?
A legislature that was Democratic at the time.
Oh, crazy.
Crazy how that happens, isn't it?
The use it or lose it law was modeled after the Motor Voter Registration Act, which says if you don't vote in three consecutive elections, in and out of states to keep people from voting in multiple states and keep their voter rolls clean.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is no suppression under this, even if you did not vote and your voter registration is to use a purge.
It's not purge.
They use this term because they know it's loaded purged.
is to use it. Purge. It's not purge. They use this term because they know
it's loaded. Purge.
Joe, you can show up
on election day with your voter ID,
which they have in Georgia, and cast a
provisional ballot that will be cast
as soon as you can prove you are the person in the ID.
There's no problem. There's no suppression.
They send notifications to your house.
There are multiple opportunities to
reinstate it. This is a nonsense
fact-free made-up charge.
But you'll hear it again.
Suppressed the vote in Georgia.
Yeah, how did they do that?
So now, Joe, let me ask you again.
Joe, you are not a poll analyst, correct?
You are a sophisticated executive producer and radio engineer, but you are not a poll analyst, right you are a sophisticated executive producer and radio
engineer but you are not a poll analyst right oh no no so let me ask you a simple question again
this is not a setup joe all right if uh the republicans in georgia were looking to suppress
the vote to a purge that was mysteriously signed into effect by democrats right yeah um you would
think if those voter rolls were purged and they were suppressing the vote,
if the vote was suppressed, this is not a trick question, Joe.
If the vote was suppressed, do you think voter turnout amongst Democrats would go down or
up?
Think about this for a second.
This is a hard question.
If the Democrats allegations, right, that voters votes were suppressed, would voter with voting have voter turnout been up or been down?
Well, I'm going to say down.
Yes, you would be correct.
Yes, Joe's right.
If voter suppression really was rampant throughout Georgia, a common.
Again, I'm talking about common sense.
I'm sorry.
I know some of you don't.
Yeah.
Oh, but the liberals, we got to try to. No, no, I'm sorry. I know some of you don't. Yeah, but the liberals, we got to try to pursue.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm trying to persuade normal people.
Liberals will continue to, no matter what you tell them, none of this will break through.
It would suggest that voting was actually suppressed then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, not so much, Joe.
Voter rolls, the voter rolls expanded by 20%.
So let me just get this straight. So you're saying that somehow the voter rolls expanded by 20 that's it so let me just get this straight
so you're saying that somehow the voter rolls were purged and yet the voter rolls expanded by 20
you say oh all right well voter turnout clearly was down oh was it okay so let's look at that
because again we do facts here i know facts are tough for you guys and ladies. I get it if you're on the lib side of the fence, but just chew on this one for a minute,
okay?
Voter turnout was up 16.4% over the last midterm in 2014.
Joe, voter spread, voter turnout.
Now, folks, we're doing a visual here.
Let me show you what I'm doing.
Voter turnout up.
Joe, what am I doing?
Is my hand going up?
It's going, voter turnout up. what am i doing is my hand going up it's going voter turn up hands
go up hands go up we need neanderthal joe neanderthal joe has not made an appearance in a
long time and up good hand up this is impossible to explain to people using anything other than
like basic like hand up voter turnout up are you missing this this is crazy voter turnout not only
oh so you now let me give you the liberal counter yes neanderthal joe let me give you the liberal
counter because some people will suggest right that voter turnout when it went up 16.4 it must
have went up higher in other states right no voter turnout was only up
12 percent in other states folks this is crazy liberals will you ever get your facts right joe
i got one more for you because this one's kind of interesting too the democrats other talking point
so voter turnouts up voter rolls are up the law that they're citing for the purge of the rolls was signed by Democrats.
There was no purge because the voter rolls expanded.
Now, another thing they've said as well, these polling locations, the lines, and listen,
fair enough.
This, I'm open to, I'm definitely open to hearing the liberal point of view on this
because what they're saying is not factually incorrect.
What they get from it and what they the conclusions
they draw are not correct but this part is real there were very long lines in a lot of democrat
leaning counties uh to vote but think about what i just said joe democrat leaning counties
brian kemp who was the secretary of state had no say whatsoever over
over the placing of poll locations in the democrat leaning counties where the democrats
and the county officials that shuttered poll locations folks yeah yeah this is i mean this
is serious stuff like i i am i i get it i totally get it. Lines were long. And the Republican platform, if we really believe in liberty and freedom, never, ever should be the case. Let's make it difficult to vote. I don't stand for that. You do whatever you want. I don't stand for that ever.
decision made by the Republicans. It was in Democrat counties and the county officials made those decisions. And I'm sorry, Joe, but long lines is not suppression. And it's definitely not
suppression when Democrat county officials make the decision to shutter polling locations.
People have to, there are multiple opportunities to vote.
I mean, I just, folks, it just drives me crazy because you're going to see this, Joe,
again, you're going to see this reappear in 2020 in Georgia. They stole the election. This is how
the Democrats are. Whenever they lose, they want the institution shut down. The governorship in
Georgia is not legitimate. They lost the Senate. The Senate's not legitimate. It's not based fairly
enough on population.
I saw an article today in The Wall Street Journal suggesting that we should carve up the states now, Joe.
California should become whatever, North and South California, East and West California, so they get more Senate seats.
That Florida should be carved up. Texas should be carved up. New York should be carved up.
Folks, this is what the Democrats do.
They want, they lose the Supreme Court.
They want to stack the Supreme Court because they're committed to genuflecting at the altar
of power.
They do not believe in a limited government.
They have placed all their faith in the power of government to rule over your lives.
When they lose it, they lose their minds and they want the government of old dismantled
for a government of new, a government they can control joe you and i don't do that because we believe in a higher power
than government that higher power of government are god-given big our rights big our rights
granted by god protected by a constitution protecting us against the government keep and bear arms rights that shall not be infringed freedom of speech freedom of the press
freedom of assembly freedom to petition these are rights granted to us by god not granted to us
by government the constitution protects us against what it's a bill it's a the bill of
rights is a bill of negative uh negative rights for the government tells us against what they, it's a bill, it's a, the Bill of Rights is a bill of negative, negative rights for the government.
It tells the government what they can't do to you.
Right.
The Democrats don't see it that way.
They see the government as a medium to control people's lives, the central planning component
of it.
They're the overseer of all.
They will grant you your little r rights.
Not God.
You weren't born free.
You were born to government.
And when they lose that power, they erupt.
That's why you're seeing the delegitimization of the governorship in Georgia, the Senate, the Supreme Court, all of it.
It's gross, folks.
It's really disgusting what's going on.
All right.
I got a lot of other stories.
Some of you were a little upset yesterday.
I missed the Swalwell.
So I didn't miss it.
I covered it on my NRA TV show on Friday, but just quickly, because it's such a dumb
story.
A frequent topic of our Joe and I, both our ire on this show is Democrat congressman
from California.
Excuse me.
Eric Swalwell, who is one of the more embarrassing members of Congress.
I've heard he's a nice guy personally. I just don't care. I don't want to have dinner
with the guy. He's just really an embarrassing fellow. He has promoted a bill for a while now
to confiscate people's firearms from their house. Yeah, he's a big gun grabber. He's one of the
lead proponents of the Russian collusion hoax. He has no evidence that there is any collusion at all, but he continues to propagate it.
And he's one of the more smarmy or kind of smart-alecky members of Congress who thinks, you know, he's one of those guys.
I heard this about a member of Congress once.
Not him, but I'm sure it applies to him, too.
He's the smartest guy in the room, Joe.
Just ask him.
He'll tell you.
So Swalwell's that guy.
You know, he is. He's clownish. He just watches
Twitter feed, right? So he sends out a tweet last week. I didn't miss it. I just said I covered it
on my NRA TV show. And a couple of people yesterday were like, oh, you got to make a
quick comment on this. He sends out a tweet in response to a guy, Joe Biggs, on Twitter.
And Joe Biggs had sent something on Twitter to him the effect of like if you come and
get our guns you're going to cause some kind of like
a war and Swalwell
who's a member of Congress on his actual
congressional account tweets back
short war it would be we've got
nukes man and they're legit
hey mom the meatloaf
Swalwell's like hey mom
the nukes the moabs dude dude listen i remember the rob schneider thing
whatever the 50 ways to say dude you know the serial killers around the corner and you think
he's a dude right this is one of those confused dudes dude dude what you're a member of congress
yeah i get it was swalwell actually threatening nuclear war against the American population?
No, he's a congressman.
He has no authority to do that.
Let's not be ridiculous.
But still, in the realm of dumb tweets, this is a platinum.
It's not even gold.
This is like platinum.
This is like rare earth mineral stupid.
What's a rare earth mineral?
Molybdenum or something?
I don't even know.
Kryptonite from the Superman movies?
This is like the dumbest tweet I have ever heard in the history
of the Twitters, as I said on Fox and Friends.
This was so stupid.
Even jokingly or sarcastically
threatening nuclear war
against the American population. So I'll leave it at this.
This Joker,
clown. He's a clown. I mean,. This Joker, clown. He's a clown.
I mean, the guy's a clown.
He's a clown sitting up on Capitol Hill with a taxpayer-funded job.
I mean, should have resigned from office
right after that stupidity.
But he wants to run for president
hysterically enough in 2020.
So, Joe, I put together a campaign slogan for him.
And I thought about it from your arby's drop that
everybody happened to love last week we have the beats so swalwell 2020 we have the nukes maybe
even he can even he can get the arby's guy that's a voice talent guy people are paid we had a voice
talent guy he's the one who did our our intro and outro he's a good guy's guy pete right
maybe he can hire that guy whatever his name is joey bag of donuts who did our our intro and outro he's a good guy's guy pete right maybe he can hire that
guy whatever his name is joey bag of donuts who did the we have the meats eric swalwell 2020 we
have the nukes that what do you think is that solid or what maybe let me try it yeah yeah we
have the nukes see joe does it pretty good eric swalwell i could give you his number i know joe's
number i know his email and he's on twitter at joe has with his z1 tweet
to him joe will do it we'll get on it early joe may not even charge you we'll make it an in-kind
donation to your campaign eric swowa we have the nukes so dumb i didn't miss the story i just it
was so dumb and yesterday i was stacked with news especially on that george nader connection
that i really didn't even want to waste your time because the stupid was epic but after getting a few emails i realized sometimes people just want me to comment
on it so there you go all right let me uh i'm gonna get to it there's a lot of news going on
um there's a thing with ivanka and the emails the judge on an asylum thing so i don't want to miss
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to be really written on this scandal it's absolutely incredible so devastating the White
House is finished again this is another one of those it's over it's over for trump the media all of a sudden is concerned now about private email use um they didn't uh seem to uh and i shouldn't say that the
media covered hillary's email scandal i don't want to be dramatic because then we lose credibility i
don't want to do that i was trying to be but it's not they did cover it they just the liberals i
should say the liberals because the media was kind of forced to i'm not giving them any credit i'm
just saying they were kind of it became such a big deal. They were forced to
cover it. Liberals, I should say, now all of a sudden are concerned about private email use.
So what happened? Yesterday, it was breaking news that Ivanka Trump has used a personal email account
for some scheduling issues when they entered the White House in that crossover period.
The email was personal. It was under a family domain name for her and Jared.
Folks, again, I'm like liberals.
I'm not a hypocrite.
We should use for government business, government emails.
Period.
Full stop.
I'm good.
There's no caveats, provisos, ifs, ands, or buts.
But what I find interesting is liberals are now super concerned about this, despite the
fact, here's a statement issued by the White house on this there was no classified information involved the account was never
transferred at the trump organization and no emails were ever deleted in other words
all right joe it was a mistake we got it you cool with it joe's cool with it joe's the audience
i'm cool with that yeah people make mistakes the point of this is this is to compare this to the Hillary email debacle is outrageous.
It is so unbelievably disingenuous and stupid.
We still don't have Hillary's 33,000 missing emails about yoga or so she says yoga.
Who the hell emails 33,000 times about yoga?
Listen, yoga is great. I know people who do yoga. Who the hell emails 33,000 times about yoga? Listen, yoga's great.
I know people who do yoga.
My wife loved it.
She did the hot yoga stuff, the yoga lotties, the yogi lotties, or whatever the heck it is.
She thought it was great.
You don't email anyone 33,000 times about yoga.
Okay.
The day is that we, Joe, simple math on this.
There are over 300 days in a year what are you emailing
people a hundred times a day about yoga man this yoga is good my achilles feels great my elbow
feels great my middle finger feels great man my neck is loose i did dialing dog or whatever it is
dancing dog what it is i don't even know these poses. Backward dog, leaping dog, you know, flying cat.
I don't even know these yoga poses.
You know, what is it?
Downward dog?
I'm serious.
I don't even know.
But how the hell are you emailing people 33,000 times about yoga?
Show's off the rails.
I'm in a particularly good mood today.
It's Thanksgiving week and I love it.
Folks, you can't email people 33,000 times about it's not even practical give me a break a little private
stuff we're going to wedding how many weddings you go to do you know 100 weddings a day
how many what were you like that that katherine heigl and 27 dresses you go to a wedding every
day give me a break folks these scandals are not comparable. And unlike
the left, we'll have principles. Yeah, it was a mistake. She has turned over the emails. We have
the emails. We can all read them clearly from what we've seen. They're about scheduling issues
and there's no classified information. Fine. To compare this to Hillary Clinton, who exchanged
classified information, had people wipe headers off of classified documents, deleted 33,000 emails.
And then it appears, according to reporting out there, that some of her people lied about it.
This is apples and oranges.
Are you kidding me?
Again, knock down your liberal friends nonsense who all of a sudden care about private email use
all right i got a lot more to get there's so much going on today's folks i want to pack it all in
so a federal judge tiner something appointed by um barack obama a federal judge has now uh put a hold on donald trump's ability to stop asylum requests
from people from this caravan that enter illegally folks this is turning into a really big deal
um the people in tijuana on the border uh with california are really really really upset uh
folks they are not happy right now they have a caravan of thousands of
people with more to come sleeping on the streets right now um there is no ability for the
infrastructure of the city to handle this this was clearly poorly thought out the logistics are
atrocious and people in the end are going are this is not going to end well for people there's going
to be some you know there's the possibility for all kinds of civil unrest here. People in Tijuana are not happy. Now, Donald Trump
signed an order saying that now you will not be able to claim asylum if you fail to enter at a
legal port of entry into the United States. In other words, folks, Trump's order stated,
if you walk through the border anywhere outside of a port of entry illegally, your asylum request is null and void.
Now, I believe he had the authority to do that.
Section 212F of the Immigration Nationalization Act.
I've said this before, but I'll read it to you again.
212F Immigration Nationalization Act.
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens
into the United States
would be detrimental
to the interests of the United States,
he may, by proclamation,
which is what he did,
and for such period
as he shall deem necessary,
which is what he did,
suspend the entry of all aliens
or any class of aliens
as immigrants or non-immigrants
or impose on the entry of aliens
any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Case closed. Thank you.
Apparently not.
An Obama-appointed judge said, no, no, you can't do that.
It doesn't say anything about having to declare asylum at the port of entry.
But it does say something about the president being able to restrict any class of aliens by proclamation
that he deems would be detrimental to the interests
of the United States. Now, that doesn't make sense why I brought up what's happening in Tijuana,
because we don't have to draw hypotheticals anymore about what's going to happen when the
caravan gets to the border, Joe. They're already here. And there's already conduct potentially
detrimental to the United States happening in the form of civil
unrest on the other side of the border. This is a clear cut case. Again, your liberal friends and
this liberal judge are just making this stuff up. Dan Horowitz at Conservative View is all over this
stuff about legislating from the bench and the damage federal judges are doing by legislating from the bench to our
national infrastructure and our national legislate our ability to legislate away issues we're going
to try to they're basically just making it up as they go along sorry that was poorly worded
the judges are just making it up as they go along
well what do i think is going to happen um well i hope congress acts quickly and uh we can fix
this legislatively and you know what put the democrats on the spot we're in a lame duck now
but this is the perfect opportunity to get this done to amend the law to say that asylum is uh
you cannot declare uh make an asylum declaration outside of a legal port of entry in the United States. It is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I have an article in the show notes about that today,
too. Another good article, by the way, about Stacey Abrams, too, with the show notes. So
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We're putting up some really good content at our website. Okay. There was an article up by john solomon who at the hill as i've told you i'm
absolutely convinced based on his contacts knows the whole spygate collusion hoax story start to
finish i'm sure of it the way he writes about it at the hill. He leaks out information slowly but surely, I think, to not overwhelm you
with stuff. But he had an article last night that's interesting, and I'm not going to spend
too much time on it. It's in the show notes. I'd like you to read it. But it covers one of the
angles, the information superhighway I've discussed in the show often about the problems with the
spying operation to take down the Trump team, right? So, Joe, one of the things we bring up a lot is one of the scandals here, we have the spying
scandal where they spied on the Trump team, and I call it the information superhighway scandal,
where they shuttled information into the FBI at the highest levels and into the DOJ,
right, right at the top. In other words, bypassing field agents and field operatives
in the intelligence community and the FBI that likely would have done what?
Would have sniffed out this information as complete, total BS.
Right. Folks.
You have to understand what happened in the Spygate thing is the information from the Hillary Clinton operation from Christopher Steele, what we know as the dossier, the fake information on Trump.
Any competent FBI employee who had worked in the field,
who was nonpartisan, would have sniffed this thing out
as being complete BS from minute one.
So what they did is they shuttled it from Steele
right to the upper levels of the DOJ through Bruce Ohr,
who was the number four over there.
And Bruce Ohr's wife happened to work at Fusion GPS
where Christopher Steele was working too. This is how they bypassed these lower level channels four over there and uh bruce or his wife happened to work at fusion gps where christopher steel was
working too this is how they bypassed these lower level channels that would have said again this
stuff is nonsense now what's the new revelation in solomon's piece it's interesting joe because
it quotes a guy john maffa who's an analyst uh at the fbi who apparently went up to the hill and
testified now maffa said at one point uh testified that while this dossier
was being used in the pfizer court that they were still in the midst of trying trying to verify this
notice he doesn't say they verified uh you know it in whole cloth they verified 50 of it he says
apparently if you read the piece there that they were still trying to verify it now why is this a big deal it's driving me
crazy it's a big deal because solomon writes in the beginning of the piece that steel and his
company orbis remember steel's providing this information to the fbi dude he's he's mainlining
it he's like iving it right into the upper levels of the doj and the fbi so it bypasses the low
levels right steel's credibility obviously matters here.
The FBI had worked with him again in the past on other things, right?
So Steele's credibility matters because one of the things you have to do if you're going
to use a source is you have to verify that the source has provided you credible information
in the past, right?
And you have to verify the information he provides as well or make an attempt to.
So you need two prongs to bring that information into the courts.
The source has to be authenticated and verified and validated,
and his information has to be validated.
Right.
Why is this Solomon piece important, Joe?
Because now it looks like they did neither.
So MAFA, who's this upper-level FBI analyst,
apparently, according to Solomon's piece, told Capitol Hill that the verification process for the dossier was still going on.
They were still trying. This is like a Yoda episode. Dude, dude, there's no try. What does he tell Luke, right? Dude, there is no try. They weren't even doing. They were trying. They couldn't even verify it. So prong number two, verifying Steele's information they couldn't even verify it so prong number two verifying steel's
information hadn't even happened right even worse here's the new part solomon cites a intel an
intelligence report steel had put together on the russian government and the effectiveness of
vladimir putin as a leader and the intelligence report basically says, Joe, that, oh, Putin's grasp on leadership
is falling apart in Russia.
What's the point?
The point is Steele's assessment
was so grossly off-base
that it conflicted directly
with information the CIA had.
What's the problem, folks?
The problem here, again,
if you're going to bring information
into the courts to spy on a Trump team, you have to authenticate and validate the source as being competent and you have to authenticate and validate the information as being legitimate.
The information wasn't validated and apparently the source's information was in direct conflict to what the CIA had said about the Russian government.
In other words, your source is crap.
It's garbage
by the way joe you have to check out my instagram a viewer thank you very much sent me a photo of
mutley with an i love paula button on thank you for that that It's on my Instagram. Paul, that was funny too. Folks, they didn't even verify
the information that Steele had given
in the past about Russia
was unbelievably wrong.
Like wrong times the power of 10.
And it conflicted directly
with the information the CIA had.
In other words, the US government
knew this guy was a crap source.
So now your source is crap
and his information is crap and you
still walked it in there
into the FISA court insisting the
information was totally legit, folks.
Read
the story. It is really good.
When I first saw it, I read the
first few paragraphs. I was like, oh, alright.
Steele wasn't bad.
Steele's information was was
was wrong i get it um but i really and then i like put it together i'm like oh now i get what
he's trying to say because remember i'm telling you solomon knows the whole story what he's trying
to point out in a piece is that both prongs were off steel's steel was a crap source and his
information was crap they didn't even get one of them right. Not one.
Oh, man.
This story gets worse by the minute.
But read the story.
It's up at the show notes today.
Check it out.
All right.
I got a couple of economic things to get through.
I finally read some good news yesterday.
And I really wanted to pass it on because it's Thanksgiving week.
And a lot of you are going to be around with your families.
Always good to see your family.
I love hanging out with folks.
I don't get out of the house much.
So last night I was with some friends down and I went down to Jupiter.
We ate at a really nice Italian place.
It was great.
The chicken meatballs were spectacular, but you're hanging around and you want to feel
good.
And I got to be candid with you.
My understanding of economics and finance scares me.
Sometimes I almost wish that I could go back
to not understanding spreadsheets
and net present value analysis
because ladies and gentlemen,
we're in a lot of trouble economically.
We owe money that I'm not convinced
we're going to be able to pay back.
Eventually those debts are going to become due and when they come due, the citizens of the United States are going to have to pay them. That money is going to be able to pay back. Eventually, those debts are going to become due.
And when they come due, the citizens of the United States are going to have to pay them.
That money is going to come out of your wallet.
And I think it's going to impoverish a lot of Americans in the future.
I've said this before.
It terrifies me.
It really does.
It scares me, the debt position we're in, how government continues to expand.
So I read an article yesterday by a guy I really like, Lewis Woodhill.
He does really terrific work.
He wrote it at the Washington Times.
Please read this piece because it'll put a smile on your face, right? It's by Woodhill and He does really terrific work. He wrote it at the Washington Times. Please read this piece
because it'll put a smile on your face, right?
It's by Woodhill and I think Steve Moore.
They co-wrote it.
It's not that long.
It's actually pretty short.
But he talks about how,
something I have said in the past on the good side,
how we can grow out of this.
Joe, can you vouch for me on this?
I've said this before.
You did, yeah.
I remember.
We can grow out of this. Now, it has to be growth. I mean, real economic growth. And on this? I've said this before. You did, yeah. I remember. We can grow out of this.
Now, it has to be growth.
I mean real economic growth.
And when I say grow out of this, to be precise, so I don't leave you in any kind of a confused state on this,
I mean grow out of our massive government debt and entitlement situation.
We owe a lot of people a lot of money, and there is basically nothing but red ink in the future.
a lot of money, and there's basically nothing but red ink in the future.
We can grow out of it, but I think I may have overestimated the growth numbers.
So Stephen Moore and Woodhill put some numbers, put some pen to paper and said, listen, if we can continue on this growth trajectory we're on now, we may be, and I'm not, keep in mind,
I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't cut government spending. Don't take this the wrong way.
I am.
I'm simply suggesting if we just put a cap on it, we can grow out of it by doing this.
So let me read to you some quotes from this piece because it's really good.
And I'd like you to read it before the holidays because it goes to show you if we can reelect Donald Trump and get good Republicans in the Congress to stick to their guns, get a cap on government spending, keep the tax cuts, get some more tax cuts in there,
and juice the economy for three, even 4% growth, here's what'll happen. Smile, folks. You live in
the greatest country on earth, and this outlook is nowhere else. Here we go. More in Woodhill.
Quote, it is true that real GDP growth was only about 1.9% under Presidents Bush and Obama.
That's low, folks. But the number was 3.8% under Clinton, 3.7%
under Reagan, and well over 3% for the 20th century as a whole, despite the Great Depression.
Accordingly, the right name for the economic theory being pushed by the Keynesian progressive
crowd is secular stupidity. In other words, this far left, Keynesian economics is the bedrock of
liberal economics. They believe in what they call secular stagnation.
Woodhill and Moore call it secular stupidity.
You're right.
In other words, the economy is stagnant because everything that's been invented has been invented.
And this is government's going to have to fix it in the future.
That's stupidity.
It's just dumb.
He goes on.
The next question is what growth target will get the debt down?
So the next question is, what growth target will get the debt down?
In other words, how quickly do we have to grow our economy so that the money we owe now is manageable?
Folks, just think about it from your own perspective, right?
If you make $100,000 a year and you owe a million, you're in big trouble.
If you still owe that million and you make 10 million a year, you're not in trouble anymore.
You're not even close to in trouble, right?
Although you still have the same debt.
So it's what growth target do we need to get the debt down?
This is the piece again.
As shown in the graph, and you can see the piece, if GDP growth over the next 30 years
were to average a mere 2.6% show, rather than the 1.9% under the Bush and Obama years,
the projected fiscal disaster vanishes, goes away.
And this includes Social Security and Medicare.
The further we go out in the future with this higher growth target,
in other words, the longer we can maintain, Joe, even 2.6%.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is not a lot.
That is not a lot.
We've averaged 3% over the last century even factoring
into great depression if we just hit 2.6 percent rather than the obama bush years growth rates
which were abysmal right obama handed trump a 1.9 growth rate we project out in the future the lower
the debt levels become because the debt level as a measure of our national income goes down because we're making
a lot of money. Final sentence. This is because the compounding effect of faster growth far
outpaces the pace of entitlement spending, even with the aging population. Folks, this is
unabashedly good news. This is terrific, wonderful, awesome news.
It basically means that the Trump growth rates we have now, 3.5%, 3%. If we can continue this
for this potentially six more years and get a President Pence after that,
or a President Don Trump Jr., or some solid solid strong conservative in there president cruz or
whatever and keep these low taxes low regulation vibrant entrepreneurial economy going folks we
can grow out of this the good news is it's not all doom and gloom even with the stupid decisions now
we would probably be growing a lot faster if we could get the darn government and the government spending off our backs.
Remember, government spending is taxation.
You may say, well, no, it's not.
They're taking on debt.
Okay, it's just taxation in the future for your kids.
You pay it.
There's no money fairy.
When the government takes on debt, someone's got to pay it back.
And the answer is who pays it back?
You do.
The good news, though, is if we hit even basic targets, 2.6%, if we can just keep the Democrats
and their anti-business, anti-free markets, anti-economics, anti-common sense nonsense
out of the federal government, out of the state governments and out of our wallets,
we have the chance to grow out of this fiscal disaster we're looking at right now.
I have to tell you, and I don't, you you, I include a lot of different stuff in this show
because it's a national show based on our audience,
and I want to make sure everybody takes something away from this
that'll hopefully make your lives a little better.
Really, I'm committed to this.
That's why I get up super early
and do a lot of prep for this show.
But I'm being totally candid when I tell you that
rarely do I read an article that makes me feel
really, really good about our future. Rarely, because I don't know, maybe I'm a bit of a
pessimist. I don't know. Maybe it's the secret service agent in me. We always have to envision
the worst case scenario, but I read this piece and I suggest you read it too in the Washington
Times. Again, it's in the show notes. And I think you'll feel really good about what's happening with the Trump economy right
now.
If we can just get people to stop voting against their own economic interests, we can keep
this gravy train going.
All right, folks, one more reading.
I want to finish up my socialism story for tomorrow, my fake socialism story, because
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And the reason, again, I keep bringing this up so it relates to you and your life is we now are into the 2020 election season.
2018 is now over.
It looks like outside of, I believe, one or two congressional races, everything has been called.
Georgia's been called.
Florida's been called.
Folks, there's no rest.
I'm sorry.
This may be the wrong show for you if you think otherwise.
The left is already working through Act Blue and other places that are already working on 2020.
What's happening in Georgia, to kind of circle back to the beginning of the show, is not being done to impact the Georgia race that's over.
Brian Kemp, the Republican, is the governor.
It's being done to do anger,
disingenuously, by the way,
minority voters who feel they were disenfranchised
when they weren't.
Voter turnout again was up.
They are already working on 2020.
Now, I bring this up in relationship
to my debunking Scandinavian socialism piece
because a lot of the people who won their seats in office
and are going to run for president
are going to run far, far to the left.
The days of the Bill Clinton era, big government's over speech up at the State of the Union are
done.
The Democrat Party right now, if you want donor money, trust me on this one.
If you want donor money and you want volunteers, you will get on the Bernie Sanders,
Elizabeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez far left train, and you will jump on it quick,
or they will run you down. There is no room anymore for moderates like a Jim Webb type.
That's over. You have no chance of getting the nomination for
your party. You can expect things like Medicare for all and this debate about Denmark and Norway
and Sweden, how wonderful these places are to continue to reappear throughout the 2020 election
cycle because silly liberals and Democrats who are confused actually believe these places are
far better off economically
than the United States. Now, I addressed a little bit of this yesterday. There's a piece up at my
website that Matt Palumbo did, debunking myths of Scandinavian socialism. Here are some numbers for
you to show you that Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and others are not better off than you are in the
United States. It says, even after accounting for the dollar value
of transfer payments and government benefits.
In other words, even after factoring in
government money given to people, right?
A single income couple earning the average wage
with two children will pay an average personal income tax rate
of 22% in Nordic countries.
In other words, if you're a middle-class person
in these Nordic countries,
even after factoring all the money government gives you, you are still going to pay a personal
income tax rate of 22%. In the United States, if you're a middle-class person, you are going to pay
a rate of 14.2%. Across all family types, the average American family earning the average wage,
get a load of this. Now, let me just set this up quick because i want this to hit
home for you so i want to make this real the problem with the ocasio-cortez sanders types
is they never make it real for people what their promises of free stuff are going to cost free
stuff as it turns out is really expensive for the middle class joe yeah let me read this again now
across all family types the average american family earning the average wage would pay
two to 5,000 more in taxes each year, net of the value of any transfer payments than
a Nordic family.
Note that this comparison is of Nordic countries, Scandinavia plus Finland and Iceland.
He sourced it too.
You can click on the sources he has in there.
Now, so you're going to pay more.
You're going to pay a lot more.
And all of your free stuff is not going to add up.
Well, why?
Well, Matt goes into that too.
He says, and despite all of the freebies in Scandinavia,
Americans consume much more.
So in other words, your take is, oh, well, you know, in East Nordic countries, they pay
more, but they get more.
Wrong.
Sorry.
Americans consume much more.
According to an analysis of OECD consumption data by the White House, average consumption
per person, here's where it is more in the United States.
Average consumption per person
is 31% lower in Denmark
than it is in the United States.
So again, if your silly argument is,
well, you know, these Nordic countries
pay a lot more in taxes,
but they get a lot more stuff.
No, they don't.
Consumption is 31% lower.
So you pay more and get less in Denmark than it
is in the United States. It's 32% lower in Sweden than it is in the United States.
It's 18% lower in Norway than it is in the United States. Folks, do you understand? Again,
if facts and data are hard for you i get it this may not
be the show for you but this is going to be a topic that is going to reemerge we got to be more
like the scandinavian countries we got to be more like these uh european social welfare countries
they are getting so much more for their money yes their taxes are high we get it but we'll pay more
and we'll get more no you're paying less and getting more here.
Those are just not the facts.
You're just making stuff up.
You're just fabricating it out of thin air.
Now, one more point on this,
which Matt points out in the piece,
which is really good.
Yeah.
Scandinavians in the United States.
Let's get these weird texts on the show.
Please give me a call.
Like who?
Who are you?
I don't know who you are.
I'm sorry.
Scandinavians in the United States are wealthier than Scandinavians in Scandinavia.
What does that tell you, folks?
It tells you that the cause, largely,
of the Scandinavian economic success story, despite their high taxes
and less consumption, their ability to keep their heads above water, Joe,
is likely due to a cultural work ethic. Why? It's simple because when you take Scandinavians out of
those countries and you put them in a relatively free market in the United States, they get richer than they were in Scandinavia.
Dude, do you see the analogy?
You get it?
When you transplant the Scandinavian cultural work ethic from Scandinavia, which suffocates
their citizens with high taxes and the heavy burden of government,
and you transplant them in the United States where the burden of government and the tax
load is less, they succeed and earn more.
Matt puts some fascinating numbers.
They're worth this amount in the United States based on income.
And this amount in Scandinavia.
Folks, these are not difficult arguments to make if you're interested in reality.
I promise you these are going to become huge campaign issues going forward.
So I want you to keep these takeaways in your head.
Yes, they pay more in taxes.
And if we want that here, you will pay more too,
upwards of $2,000 to $5,000 more for the average family.
You pay less in taxes now, and you consume, in other words, you get more stuff.
Those are just the numbers.
Those countries pay higher taxes and consume less, not more.
Secondly, yes, those countries do tend to do well economically and grow at times not all the
time despite the heavy foot of government being on their neck but a lot of this is due to the
scandinavian cultural work ethic when you take those folks and you relocate and they relocate
to the united states they are worth more economically here than they are in Scandinavia.
If this bothers you folks, I'm sorry. But again, facts have to matter sometimes.
All right. I just, I'm sorry. I just get really, when people don't, the facts and data stuff,
I just can't get over because I'm hearing it now. Ocasio-Cortez and these others, congratulations on your win.
I know it's hard to win, but this Medicare for all stuff and all that is economically entirely unfeasible.
Understand they've tried this.
They've tried this socialized medicine system, even in the liberal state of Vermont,
where they pitched a bill that was so expensive
that the Democrat governor turned it down. Folks, I want to be crystal clear on this.
We could confiscate all of the corporate taxes in the country, and we would still have to
significantly up the income tax rates in the country, and we still wouldn't have enough money
to pay for, quote, free healthcare for everyone everyone. Remember what PJ O'Rourke
said? You think health care is expensive now? Wait till it's free. There is no such thing
as free health care. It is super expensive. Not only will you pay more, you're going to get hosed
because the government's going to control it. And you're going to have to dial up a bureaucrat to
get your chest cracked open. You don't even like going to the DMV now to get your driver's license.
You want to call a bureaucrat because you had a heart attack and you need to have your life saved?
Does this make any sense to you?
Remember the four ways to spend money.
I wasn't going to, but I'll just wrap it up on this.
Milton Friedman's four ways to spend money.
You spend money on yourself.
Great.
The cost and quality of what you're buying matters.
You're spending your money on yourself. You want a low cost and high quality. You spend money on other people.
Cost matters. It's your money. Quality, not so much. You're buying something for someone else.
Other people spending other people's money on themselves. Again, even worse. Does the cost
matter? No, it's not your money, but the quality matters because you're spending other people's
money on yourself. What's the worst way to spend money?
Other people spending other people's money on other people.
Other people.
Yes.
What matters?
Cost?
No, it's not your money.
Quality?
That doesn't matter either.
You're not even spending the money on yourself.
That's the government.
That's the government.
Spending other people's money on other people.
Cost nor quality never matter. That's government medicine. Is cost other people's money on other people, cost nor quality never matter.
That's government medicine.
Is cost going to matter?
Hell no.
It's not your health plan.
You're in the government.
You're protected.
Is the quality of the medicine going to matter?
No.
It's not your chest getting cracked open.
What do you care?
Wake up.
These are really, really bad ideas.
All right, folks.
Thanks again for tuning in.
Hey, one quick thing before we go.
Bad ideas.
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